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Epirus DNA
05-11-2020, 12:57 PM
Post MyTrueAncestry updated Modern Population results

Modern Populations (Updated!) MyTrueAncestry

https://i.imgur.com/Bc2gFp9.jpg

Ancient Populations MyTrueAncestry

https://i.imgur.com/IJnA4Rj.jpg

Mortimer
05-11-2020, 01:24 PM
https://i.postimg.cc/TPrS9rky/Screenshot-20200511-152325-com-android-chrome.jpg

Rocinante
05-11-2020, 01:45 PM
Modern:
North_Italian (8.957)
Spanish_Galicia (9.755)
Portuguese (10.48)
Tuscan (12.08)
Spanish_Extremadura (12.14)
Spanish_Murcia (13.20)
Spanish_Cataluna (13.25)
Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon (13.71)

Ancient:
Gaul + Roman Hispania (4.645)
Roman Hispania + Frank (4.762)
Roman + Frank (5.658)
Gaul + Roman (6.968)
Roman Hispania + Illyrian (7.692)
Illyrian (10.85)
Roman Hispania (11.42)
Roman (11.71)
Gaul (11.85)
Frank (13.03)

noricum
05-11-2020, 02:00 PM
1. Austrian (5.751)
2. Hungarian (8.212)
3. Croatian (8.818)
4. East_German (9.106)
5. Slovenian (9.696)
6. Czech (9.798)
7. South_Polish (11.63)
8. Serbian (12.44)

Frank + Early Slav (5.315)
Viking + Frank (7.537)
Scythian + Frank (8.36)
Scythian + Ostrogoth (9.285)
Scythian + Early Slav (10.01)
Scythian (11.86)
Ostrogoth (12.83)
Frank (14.97)
Viking (16.0)
Early Slav (16.29)

Lucas
05-11-2020, 02:05 PM
Uhu they added some pops from K15 Updated Vahaduo apparently:)

Mixdguy17
05-11-2020, 02:08 PM
Modern:
North_Italian (8.957)
Spanish_Galicia (9.755)
Portuguese (10.48)
Tuscan (12.08)
Spanish_Extremadura (12.14)
Spanish_Murcia (13.20)
Spanish_Cataluna (13.25)
Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon (13.71)

Ancient:
Gaul + Roman Hispania (4.645)
Roman Hispania + Frank (4.762)
Roman + Frank (5.658)
Gaul + Roman (6.968)
Roman Hispania + Illyrian (7.692)
Illyrian (10.85)
Roman Hispania (11.42)
Roman (11.71)
Gaul (11.85)
Frank (13.03)

Oye hermano nos salio super similar

1. North_Italian (20.32)
2. Portuguese (20.67)
3. Spanish_Extremadura (20.76)
4. Spanish_Galicia (20.89)
5. Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon (21.40)
6. Spanish_Murcia (21.42)
7. Tuscan (21.46)
8. Kosovar (21.61)

Gaul + Roman Hispania (17.77)
Roman Hispania + Roman (18.9)
Roman Hispania + Illyrian (19.38)
Gaul + Roman (19.52)
Gallo-Roman + Roman Hispania (19.55)

paradox
05-11-2020, 02:09 PM
Mine

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200511/ac54e55f6f362e20b4ffbde13d95c8cf.jpg

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200511/8a7bada15f9162ecee413bb97b069ed8.jpg


My father's

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200511/96dbcf06b41de8ad8a4c435fff4725be.jpg

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200511/fb3d6287cdf573fa521378f1bd6d14de.jpg

Rocinante
05-11-2020, 02:10 PM
Oye hermano nos salio super similar

1. North_Italian (20.32)
2. Portuguese (20.67)
3. Spanish_Extremadura (20.76)
4. Spanish_Galicia (20.89)
5. Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon (21.40)
6. Spanish_Murcia (21.42)
7. Tuscan (21.46)
8. Kosovar (21.61)

Gaul + Roman Hispania (17.77)
Roman Hispania + Roman (18.9)
Roman Hispania + Illyrian (19.38)
Gaul + Roman (19.52)
Gallo-Roman + Roman Hispania (19.55)

La verdad es que salio super similar, la cosa es que tus distancias son muy amplias, faltarian mas muestras del Nuevo Mundo para que te den distancias mas cortas. Nunca tomes enserio algo que este por encima de 5 en distancia.

Mixdguy17
05-11-2020, 02:14 PM
La verdad es que salio super similar, la cosa es que tus distancias son muy amplias, faltarian mas muestras del Nuevo Mundo para que te den distancias mas cortas. Nunca tomes enserio algo que este por encima de 5 en distancia.

Ahhhh con que eso es lo que significaba los numeritos jajaja, acuerdate que yo de esta vaina no se un cono xdxd. Si, ojala pues mejoren sus muestras del nuevo mundo para tener mejores resultados, pero que curisos que sea tan similar no ? por que crees que sera ? Yo se que nuestro lado Italiano es casi identico pero pues tu sabes que de mi lado Espanol no se nada xdxd.

Rocinante
05-11-2020, 02:39 PM
Ahhhh con que eso es lo que significaba los numeritos jajaja, acuerdate que yo de esta vaina no se un cono xdxd. Si, ojala pues mejoren sus muestras del nuevo mundo para tener mejores resultados, pero que curisos que sea tan similar no ? por que crees que sera ? Yo se que nuestro lado Italiano es casi identico pero pues tu sabes que de mi lado Espanol no se nada xdxd.

Si la verdad es que nuestro lado italiano es identico, y ademas que del lado iberico al parecer muy parecido, lo que me lleva a pensar que, que tu lado italiano es bastante northern-shifted, siendo del Sur, que es lo que me paso a mi. El lado iberico por lo general es algo complejo ver de donde es exactamente, pero para mi, canario no es, eso serguro.

Mixdguy17
05-11-2020, 02:47 PM
Si la verdad es que nuestro lado italiano es identico, y ademas que del lado iberico al parecer muy parecido, lo que me lleva a pensar que, que tu lado italiano es bastante northern-shifted, siendo del Sur, que es lo que me paso a mi. El lado iberico por lo general es algo complejo ver de donde es exactamente, pero para mi, canario no es, eso serguro.

Si champ que vaina tan curiosa, porque sera si nuestro Italiano es del sur, nos sale cosas del norte? Lo de Espana siento que Galicia es muy probable ya que me sale todo el tiempo y pues Extremadura, y Castilla y Leon sean probables igual ya que me salen tmb, pero ahhh quisiera que hubiera una forma de verdad saber, la curiosidad me tiene demasiado intrigado

Rocinante
05-11-2020, 03:00 PM
Si champ que vaina tan curiosa, porque sera si nuestro Italiano es del sur, nos sale cosas del norte? Lo de Espana siento que Galicia es muy probable ya que me sale todo el tiempo y pues Extremadura, y Castilla y Leon sean probables igual ya que me salen tmb, pero ahhh quisiera que hubiera una forma de verdad saber, la curiosidad me tiene demasiado intrigado

Creo que cuando te saques el G25, te podre ayudar con mejor precision, por el momento a esperar.

Impaler
05-11-2020, 03:13 PM
1. Macedonian (10.68)
2. Romanian (10.75)
3. Bulgarian (10.77)
4. Greek_Thessaly (11.56)
5. Albanian_Tosk (12.07)
6. Kosovar (12.13)
7. Greek (13.09)
8. Serbian (13.19)


Byzantine + Gaul (9.305)
Byzantine + Roman (10.18)
Seleucid + Gaul (10.69)
Seleucid + Roman (11.99)
Gaul + Hellenic Roman (12.4)
Roman (15.3)
Seleucid (16.62)
Byzantine (17.58)
Gaul (17.8)
Hellenic Roman (18.05)

Rgvgjhvv
05-11-2020, 03:14 PM
1. Central_Greek (4.402)
2. Greek_Crete (6.335)
3. Greek (6.353)
4. East_Sicilian (6.356)
5. South_Italian (6.541)
6. Greek_Islands (6.921)
7. Italian_Abruzzo (7.477)
8. Ashkenazi (8.670

Pedro Ruben
05-11-2020, 03:31 PM
Ancient populations
Gaul + Roman Hispania (3.967)
Gaul + Al-Andalus (6.437)
Al-Andalus + Illyrian (6.877)
Roman Hispania + Illyrian (7.391)
Gallo-Roman + Roman Hispania (7.54)
Illyrian (8.562)
Al-Andalus (9.375)
Gallo-Roman (10.8)
Roman Hispania (11.27)
Gaul (13.21)

Modern populations
1. Spanish_Extremadura (4.462)
2. Portuguese (4.478)
3. Spanish_Murcia (4.973)
4. Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon (5.059)
5. Spanish_Cataluna (6.098)
6. Spanish_Galicia (6.125)
7. Spanish_Valencia (8.186)
8. Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha (8.597)

frankhammer
05-11-2020, 04:00 PM
Are people now paying for this or registering a new email each time?

Hapanuwa
05-11-2020, 04:03 PM
Are people now paying for this or registering a new email each time?

Just remove your kit after it's expired and upload it again

frankhammer
05-11-2020, 04:53 PM
https://i.imgur.com/euMjrWx.png
https://i.imgur.com/wEbPFH6.png

Elias.99
05-12-2020, 12:03 AM
Ancient:

Ancient Egyptian + Pontic (8.668)
Roman + Ancient Egyptian (9.976)
Ancient Egyptian (10.65)
Hellenic Roman + Ancient Egyptian (11.04)
Hellenic Roman (16.31)
Hellenic Roman + Roman (17.28)
Hellenic Roman + Pontic (18.25)

Modern:


1. Libyan_Jewish (9.921)
2. Jordanian (9.979)
3. Tunisian_Jewish (10.53)
4. Algerian_Jewish (11.41)
5. Moroccan_Jewish (11.58)
6. Palestinian (12.01)
7. Italian_Jewish (12.46)
8. Jew_Syria (13.01)

Dr_Maul
05-12-2020, 12:36 AM
Modern
1. Azeri (4.520)
2. Kurd (4.793)
3. Iranian (5.025)
4. Kurdish (5.916)
5. Turk (6.823)
6. Jew-Uzbekistan (7.055)
7. Jew_Tat (8.533)
8. Kurdish_Jewish (8.811)


Ancient
Safavid (3.045)
Seleucid (12.33)
Ottoman (12.63)
Ottoman + Safavid (13.79)
Pontic + Safavid (14.97)
Seleucid + Safavid (15.3)

Kinda odd overall. The fact that it has both 'Kurd' and 'Kurdish' is weird, and its odd how it put me closer to Seleucid (Some form of Greek I assume) rather than Ottoman (Turkish)

Babak
05-12-2020, 12:43 AM
Modern
1. Azeri (4.520)
2. Kurd (4.793)
3. Iranian (5.025)
4. Kurdish (5.916)
5. Turk (6.823)
6. Jew-Uzbekistan (7.055)
7. Jew_Tat (8.533)
8. Kurdish_Jewish (8.811)


Ancient
Safavid (3.045)
Seleucid (12.33)
Ottoman (12.63)
Ottoman + Safavid (13.79)
Pontic + Safavid (14.97)
Seleucid + Safavid (15.3)

Kinda odd overall. The fact that it has both 'Kurd' and 'Kurdish' is weird, and its odd how it put me closer to Seleucid (Some form of Greek I assume) rather than Ottoman (Turkish)

Safavid warrior indeed.

https://scontent-sea1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/16387988_587797614749017_2898050920599897545_n.jpg ?_nc_cat=107&_nc_sid=9267fe&_nc_ohc=uC-9hV_yvOQAX-hKz4f&_nc_ht=scontent-sea1-1.xx&oh=7c7c4a08a054151ffb97af9fb307b171&oe=5EDDDDC6

Dr_Maul
05-12-2020, 12:50 AM
Safavid warrior indeed.

Yeah my low distance to the Safavid is quite satisfying although I wish they had some older samples, from a more civilized age

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dsw1M6AU0AAGP49.jpg

kleenex
05-12-2020, 12:59 AM
Makes no sense compared to my other results; Gedmatch, Vadahuo updates, G 25, etc. I typically have Greek Thessaly as my number one match. Doesn't even appear in this update. Completely indolent site/calculator.
1. Albanian_Tosk (7.173)
2. Kosovar (7.389)
3. Greek (7.412)
4. Italian_Abruzzo (7.458)
5. Central_Greek (9.490)
6. West_Sicilian (10.05)
7. Tuscan (10.22)
8. East_Sicilian (10.24)

kleenex
05-12-2020, 01:01 AM
1. Central_Greek (4.402)
2. Greek_Crete (6.335)
3. Greek (6.353)
4. East_Sicilian (6.356)
5. South_Italian (6.541)
6. Greek_Islands (6.921)
7. Italian_Abruzzo (7.477)
8. Ashkenazi (8.670

Works well for you.

Coastal Elite
05-12-2020, 01:07 AM
Modern

1. French (8.450)
2. South_Dutch (8.529)
3. West_German (9.374)
4. Flemish (9.481)
5. North_German (12.34)
6. East_German (13.16)
7. Austrian (13.26)
8. Southwest_English (13.42)

Ancient

Gaul + Frank (3.741)
Visigoth + Frank (4.351)
Visigoth + Gaul (5.184)
Frank (5.269)
Scythian + Frank (5.887)
Thuringii + Frank (6.135)
Gaul (7.082)
Visigoth (8.484)
Thuringii (9.386)
Scythian (12.65)

AncientGreek
05-12-2020, 01:23 AM
Modern

1. South_Italian (6.688)
2. Central_Greek (8.378)
3. East_Sicilian (8.632)
4. Greek_Islands (9.073)
5. Greek_Crete (9.669)
6. Italian_Jewish (9.684)
7. Ashkenazi (10.56)
8. Cyprian_Greek (10.63)

Ancient

Hellenic Roman (3.255)
Hellenic Roman + Hittite (6.294)
Roman + Hittite (6.663)
Ancient Greek + Hellenic Roman (6.964)
Ancient Greek + Pontic (7.002)
Hellenic Roman + Pontic (7.924)
Hittite (14.22)
Ancient Greek (14.73)
Pontic (15.76)
Roman (15.99)

Something very wrong with how they calculate Greek populaions, if I'm closer to Central_Greek than to Crete or islands. :confused:

Bosniensis
05-12-2020, 01:25 AM
Byzantine + Scythian (6.196)
Scythian + Hungarian Conqueror (6.984)
Scythian + Roman (9.228)
Byzantine + Gaul (10.39)
Gaul + Hungarian Conqueror (10.52)
Scythian (15.07)
Gaul (17.39)
Hungarian Conqueror (18.13)
Byzantine (19.14)
Roman (19.77)

1. Bosnian (5.277)
2. Macedonian (6.023)
3. Romanian (6.400)
4. Bulgarian (7.473)
5. Serbian (7.512)
6. Moldavian (7.913)
7. Croatian (10.37)
8. Slovenian (10.75)

Halgurd
05-12-2020, 01:40 AM
MTA puts me really close to Alans, and gives me several ancient Alan matches as well.

Modern:



https://i.ibb.co/HGQjyVY/17-B89-F26-2-FDE-44-C1-B602-91-B6-BBFBADE7.jpg

Ancient

https://i.ibb.co/m57wk1K/E1-B13-ED9-198-D-4-E27-A109-04-C387-DFD7-CB.jpg

Thambi
05-12-2020, 01:40 AM
Modern
1. Velamas (4.397)
2. Hindu (4.562)
3. Jew_India (5.017)
4. Kurumba (6.090)
5. Dharkar (8.106)
6. Kanjar (8.632)
7. Indian (8.761)
8. Dusadh (9.182)


Ancient
Karkota (1.186)
Brahmin (2.194)
Karkota + Brahmin (7.796)

Rgvgjhvv
05-12-2020, 02:10 AM
Works well for you.

Yeah, I agree. A lot of people aren't so lucky it seems, unfortunately.

JohnnyP
05-12-2020, 03:13 AM
Macedonian from Skopje
https://i.imgur.com/9ra7WNd.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/VMRjBtu.jpg

Harald Meller
05-12-2020, 03:14 AM
Wow I think I should try this test, as it looks really nice.

Which companies do they accept raw transfers from?

WhatsGoingOnBigGuy
05-12-2020, 03:31 AM
1. North_German (5.594)
2. South_Dutch (6.061)
3. East_German (7.506)
4. Flemish (8.303)
5. Danish (8.837)
6. Southeast_English (9.268)
7. German_Central (9.359)
8. Southwest_English (9.501)

Gründig
05-12-2020, 03:34 AM
I always thought Gauls and celts were the same....

Viking Danish + Gaul (1.988)
Celt + Gaul (2.742)
Viking Danish + Frank (2.984)
Visigoth + Frank (4.47)
Gaul + Frank (4.509)
Frank (6.502)
Visigoth (8.684)
Gaul (9.524)
Viking Danish (9.857)
Celt (10.43)


1. South_Dutch (5.033)
2. North_German (7.814)
3. Flemish (8.018)
4. French (8.704)
5. West_German (8.890)
6. East_German (9.439)
7. Southwest_English (9.825)
8. Southeast_English (10.38)

paradox
05-12-2020, 08:24 AM
Wow I think I should try this test, as it looks really nice.

Which companies do they accept raw transfers from?Ancestry
23 and Me
MyHeritage
FTDNA
LivingDNA

Moje ime
05-12-2020, 10:34 AM
Your closest genetic modern populations...

1. Serbian (6.395)
2. Romanian (6.808)
3. Bosnian (8.132)
4. Austrian (8.699)
5. Hungarian (9.397)
6. Bulgarian (9.872)
7. Croatian (10.28)
8. Moldavian (10.34)

Your closest Ancient populations...

Scythian + Gaul (8.799)
Scythian + Frank (10.04)
Scythian + Thuringii (10.69)
Gaul (11.19)
Visigoth + Scythian (11.43)
Gaul + Frank (11.82)
Scythian (11.92)
Frank (13.65)
Thuringii (14.7)
Visigoth (16.55)

17571imre
05-12-2020, 10:38 AM
Your closest genetic modern populations...

Info

1. Hungarian (7.092)
2. Serbian (7.523)
3. Austrian (9.690)
4. East_German (10.12)
5. Romanian (11.27)
6. Moldavian (11.46)
7. Croatian (11.90)
8. Slovenian (12.21)

Scythian + Gaul (6.822)
Visigoth + Scythian (6.881)
Scythian + Frank (7.367)
Scythian + Thuringii (7.952)
Visigoth + Gaul (8.166)
Gaul (9.041)
Scythian (10.29)
Visigoth (10.95)
Thuringii (11.47)
Frank (12.06)

Vojnik
05-12-2020, 10:51 AM
Mine:

1. Macedonian (3.264)
2. Romanian (4.819)
3. Bulgarian (5.647)
4. Bosnian (7.654)
5. Serbian (7.820)
6. Kosovar (9.398)
7. Greek_Thessaly (9.539)
8. Albanian_Tosk (9.868)

https://mytrueancestry.com/img/Byzantine.jpghttps://mytrueancestry.com/img/Gaul.jpgByzantine + Gaul (6.476)
Byzantine + Scythian (6.564)
Scythian + Roman (8.047)
Byzantine + Thuringii (8.42)
Byzantine + Roman (10.25)
Roman (13.88)
Gaul (14.68)
Scythian (17.74)
Byzantine (17.92)
Thuringii (18.1)

Vojnik
05-12-2020, 10:51 AM
Who else gets this? Or anything in the Americas?


https://i.ibb.co/3dDZWpm/map123.png (https://ibb.co/GpKSkWQ)

Moje ime
05-12-2020, 11:19 AM
Who else gets this? Or anything in the Americas?



I get the same.

paradox
05-12-2020, 11:50 AM
Who else gets this? Or anything in the Americas?


https://i.ibb.co/3dDZWpm/map123.png (https://ibb.co/GpKSkWQ)My dad gets the same as you.

Hapanuwa
05-12-2020, 12:04 PM
Some bs going on in my modern populations

Modern:
1. Greek_Azov (7.561)
2. Tatar_Crim (8.201)
3. Turk (11.01)
4. Turkish (12.96)
5. Greek_Cretan (13.35)
6. Ashkenazi (14.25)
7. Nogai (14.65)
8. Central_Greek (14.75)

Ancient:
Hellenic Roman + Ottoman (6.472)
Seleucid (7.779)
Byzantine (8.681)
Seleucid + Hellenic Roman (10.19)
Ottoman (10.63)
Byzantine + Hellenic Roman (11.04)
Byzantine + Ottoman (11.71)
Hellenic Roman (12.52)
Roman + Ottoman (12.85)
Roman (13.61)

PAGANE
05-12-2020, 12:07 PM
1. Romanian (6.155)
2. Bulgarian (7.837)
3. Macedonian (7.859)
4. Serbian (9.476)
5. Bosnian (9.839)
6. Kosovar (10.95)
7. Albanian (12.79)
8. Greek_Thessaly (13.43)
https://mytrueancestry.com/c/image.py?&j=36j2dtjb50&s=pcam

Chris596
05-12-2020, 12:31 PM
Who else gets this? Or anything in the Americas?


https://i.ibb.co/3dDZWpm/map123.png (https://ibb.co/GpKSkWQ)

I also got that, do you think it's an error? Or it could be real?

Vojnik
05-12-2020, 12:37 PM
I also got that, do you think it's an error? Or it could be real?

1700, it's pretty recent. could be a Eastern European who migrated to New York.

Don't know how to find out what that sample is for certain though.

kleenex
05-12-2020, 11:38 PM
Modern

1. South_Italian (6.688)
2. Central_Greek (8.378)
3. East_Sicilian (8.632)
4. Greek_Islands (9.073)
5. Greek_Crete (9.669)
6. Italian_Jewish (9.684)
7. Ashkenazi (10.56)
8. Cyprian_Greek (10.63)

Ancient

Hellenic Roman (3.255)
Hellenic Roman + Hittite (6.294)
Roman + Hittite (6.663)
Ancient Greek + Hellenic Roman (6.964)
Ancient Greek + Pontic (7.002)
Hellenic Roman + Pontic (7.924)
Hittite (14.22)
Ancient Greek (14.73)
Pontic (15.76)
Roman (15.99)

Something very wrong with how they calculate Greek populaions, if I'm closer to Central_Greek than to Crete or islands. :confused:

Could someone explain the genetic composition of the Seleucid sample. Just finished a really good read on Hellenism following the death of Alexander and it seems that the Seleucid dynasty(ruling class) were made of Macedonians and Greeks. Evidence (as suggested in text) notes there was "no" intermarriage between the Seleucid elite and local populations. Is the Seleucid sample a Macedonian or Greek and can we even differentiate the two.

Epirus DNA
05-13-2020, 11:28 AM
Some bs going on in my modern populations

Modern:
1. Greek_Azov (7.561)
2. Tatar_Crim (8.201)
3. Turk (11.01)
4. Turkish (12.96)
5. Greek_Cretan (13.35)
6. Ashkenazi (14.25)
7. Nogai (14.65)
8. Central_Greek (14.75)

Ancient:
Hellenic Roman + Ottoman (6.472)
Seleucid (7.779)
Byzantine (8.681)
Seleucid + Hellenic Roman (10.19)
Ottoman (10.63)
Byzantine + Hellenic Roman (11.04)
Byzantine + Ottoman (11.71)
Hellenic Roman (12.52)
Roman + Ottoman (12.85)
Roman (13.61)

Congratulations. You might be Greek. You're very lucky.

Epirus DNA
05-13-2020, 11:41 AM
Could someone explain the genetic composition of the Seleucid sample. Just finished a really good read on Hellenism following the death of Alexander and it seems that the Seleucid dynasty(ruling class) were made of Macedonians and Greeks. Evidence (as suggested in text) notes there was "no" intermarriage between the Seleucid elite and local populations. Is the Seleucid sample a Macedonian or Greek and can we even differentiate the two.

I do not have more information on the Seleucid. I am quite interested. My mother comes up Seleucid. See below.

In regard to your statements and last question, I do not think we can differentiate the two yet. It seems that there is absolutely no difference between the two.

https://i.imgur.com/jcdaXbU.jpg

Tauromachos
05-13-2020, 11:43 AM
Could someone explain the genetic composition of the Seleucid sample. Just finished a really good read on Hellenism following the death of Alexander and it seems that the Seleucid dynasty(ruling class) were made of Macedonians and Greeks. Evidence (as suggested in text) notes there was "no" intermarriage between the Seleucid elite and local populations. Is the Seleucid sample a Macedonian or Greek and can we even differentiate the two.

Seleucids were Balkanites

JamesBond007
05-13-2020, 12:17 PM
1. Southwest_English (4.229)
2. Southeast_English (4.317)
3. North_Dutch (4.418)
4. Danish (4.780)
5. West_Scottish (4.970)
6. Irish (5.036)
7. Orcadian (5.145)
8. North_German (6.157)

https://i.postimg.cc/WbRVZDFQ/mta.png



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2G5rfPISIwo

kleenex
05-13-2020, 12:31 PM
I do not have more information on the Seleucid. I am quite interested. My mother comes up Seleucid. See below.

In regard to your statements and last question, I do not think we can differentiate the two yet. It seems that there is absolutely no difference between the two.

https://i.imgur.com/jcdaXbU.jpg

Your mom is Epirote?

kleenex
05-13-2020, 12:31 PM
Seleucids were Balkanites

That's what I thought

Epirus DNA
05-13-2020, 03:03 PM
Could someone explain the genetic composition of the Seleucid sample. Just finished a really good read on Hellenism following the death of Alexander and it seems that the Seleucid dynasty(ruling class) were made of Macedonians and Greeks. Evidence (as suggested in text) notes there was "no" intermarriage between the Seleucid elite and local populations. Is the Seleucid sample a Macedonian or Greek and can we even differentiate the two.

I started doing some research on the Seleucid Samples. This sample seems to be Greek Pontian / Greek Azoz mix with the local steppe

Science Mag Link: https://science.sciencemag.org/content/360/6396/eaar7711

MA2198
Hellenic Seleucid Anatolia (165 BC)
MA2198 Closest Modern
1. Tatar_Crim (5.745)
2. Greek_Azov (9.847)
3. Nogai (13.47)
4. Italian_Abruzzo (14.78)
5. Ashkenazi (14.85)
6. Central_Greek (15.29)
7. Greek (15.91)
8. Turkish (15.98)

Tauromachos
05-13-2020, 03:39 PM
I started doing some research on the Seleucid Samples. This sample seems to be Greek Pontian / Greek Azoz mix with the local steppe

Science Mag Link: https://science.sciencemag.org/content/360/6396/eaar7711

MA2198
Hellenic Seleucid Anatolia (165 BC)
MA2198 Closest Modern
1. Tatar_Crim (5.745)
2. Greek_Azov (9.847)
3. Nogai (13.47)
4. Italian_Abruzzo (14.78)
5. Ashkenazi (14.85)
6. Central_Greek (15.29)
7. Greek (15.91)
8. Turkish (15.98)

Lol funny like a mix of Mainland Greek and Pontian Greek

Kamal900
05-13-2020, 04:07 PM
Looks like me and you have genetic affinity to the Hellenic Romans.

Tauromachos
05-13-2020, 04:13 PM
Why does the German Durkish lizard thumb me down
https://www.abc.net.au/cm/rimage/12038874-4x3-xlarge.jpg?v=2

Hapanuwa
05-13-2020, 04:19 PM
Congratulations. You might be Greek. You're very lucky.

Not sure about that one. Greek colonists didn't intermarry locals in the interior of Asia Minor as far as I know

Tauromachos
05-13-2020, 04:27 PM
Not sure about that one. Greek colonists didn't intermarry locals in the interior of Asia Minor as far as I know

Colonists :lol:

Hapanuwa
05-13-2020, 04:41 PM
Colonists :lol:

What's so funny though? I mean, Greeks settled down in the Aegean coast and hellenized the native Aegeans/Anatolians in the interior.

Tauromachos
05-13-2020, 04:43 PM
What's so funny though? I mean, Greeks settled down in the Aegean coast and hellenized the native Aegeans/Anatolians in the interior.

Greeks lived in Anatolia long before any Seldjuk set food there

They left even their sperm there thats why even some Turks like you score what they score genetically

Hapanuwa
05-13-2020, 04:52 PM
Greeks lived in Anatolia long before any Seldjuk set food there

They left even their sperm there thats why even some Turks like you score what they score genetically

The fact that the Seljuks migrated later does not exclude the colonization of Asia Minor by the Greeks. The fact that I'm somewhat close to Greeks is because of my native Aegean heritage. So calm your tits

Tauromachos
05-13-2020, 05:29 PM
The fact that the Seljuks migrated later does not exclude the colonization of Asia Minor by the Greeks. The fact that I'm somewhat close to Greeks is because of my native Aegean heritage. So calm your tits

https://i.imgur.com/022dQlI.jpg

PAGANE
05-13-2020, 07:43 PM
[QUOTE = Епирова ДНК; 6693097] Няма повече информация за Селевкида. Доста се интересувам. Майка ми идва Селевкид. Виж отдолу.

По отношение на вашето твърдение и последния въпрос, не мисля, че всички още може да разграничите някои. Виждам, че няма абсолютно нищо между различните.

https://i.imgur.com/jcdaXbU.jpg[/ Цитат]



А майка ми е просто селевкид


византийски + римски (9,039)
селевкид + римски (9,58)
византийски + понтийски (10,32)
селевкид + византийски (10,42)
византийски + елински римски (11,39)
селевцид (12,67)
византийски (12,67)
Римски (15.66)
Понтийски (16.5)
елински римски (18.95)
https://mytrueancestry.com/c/main.pyhttps://mytrueancestry.com/c/image.py?&j=2z9mbcm9kf&s=pcam

Thracian
05-14-2020, 12:08 AM
Ancients

Byzantine + Hellenic Roman (11.52)
Seleucid + Roman (11.55)
Byzantine + Roman (11.64)
Seleucid + Hellenic Roman (11.68)
Seleucid + Byzantine (12.31)
Byzantine (13.55)
Seleucid (14.41)
Roman (17.2)
Hellenic Roman (17.39)
Pontic (18.15)

Modern

1. Greek_Thessaly (9.447)
2. Macedonian (11.47)
3. Bulgarian (11.97)
4. Albanian_Tosk (12.06)
5. Romanian (12.38)
6. Ashkenazi (12.67)
7. Greek (13.08)
8. Kosovar (13.46)

kleenex
05-14-2020, 01:52 AM
I started doing some research on the Seleucid Samples. This sample seems to be Greek Pontian / Greek Azoz mix with the local steppe

Science Mag Link: https://science.sciencemag.org/content/360/6396/eaar7711

MA2198
Hellenic Seleucid Anatolia (165 BC)
MA2198 Closest Modern
1. Tatar_Crim (5.745)
2. Greek_Azov (9.847)
3. Nogai (13.47)
4. Italian_Abruzzo (14.78)
5. Ashkenazi (14.85)
6. Central_Greek (15.29)
7. Greek (15.91)
8. Turkish (15.98)

That's odd. Are there earlier samples used? How many Seleucid samples are we talking about and which is the one used by Mytrueancestry. This company should let you know what specific sample was used wit some sort of historical/genetic context. Otherwise it's a waste of money.

Gallop
05-14-2020, 03:17 AM
Gallo-Roman + Illyrian (5.991)
Aquitani + Illyrian (6.503)
Visigoth + Illyrian (6.582)
Aquitani + Gallo-Roman (7.154)
Etruscan + Illyrian (7.765)
Visigoth (8.765)
Gallo-Roman (9.032)
Etruscan (10.31)
Illyrian (10.75)
Aquitani (10.9)

1. Spanish_Cantabria (6.258)
2. Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha (7.723)
3. Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon (8.458)
4. Southwest_French (8.469)
5. Spanish_Aragon (8.66)
6. Spanish_Cataluna (9.217)
7. Spanish_Extremadura (9.510)
8. Spanish_Andalucia (9.892)

Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas
05-14-2020, 03:33 AM
1. Portuguese (3.850)
2. Spanish_Extremadura (4.592)
3. Spanish_Murcia (5.189)
4. Spanish_Cataluna (6.037)
5. Spanish_Galicia (6.145)
6. Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon (6.415)
7. Spanish_Andalucia (7.472)
8. Spanish_Valencia (7.820)

Luso
05-14-2020, 03:54 AM
Modern:

1. Spanish_Murcia (3.233)
2. Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon (3.243)
3. Spanish_Extremadura (4.148)
4. Portuguese (4.252)
5. Spanish_Cataluna (4.574)
6. Spanish_Valencia (6.253)
7. Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha (6.426)
8. Spanish_Galicia (6.561)

Ancient:

Visigoth + Al-Andalus (6.304)
Al-Andalus + Illyrian (6.47)
Visigoth + Illyrian (6.491)
Al-Andalus + Gallo-Roman (6.846)
Etruscan + Illyrian (6.901)
Al-Andalus (8.159)
Illyrian (9.153)
Gallo-Roman (9.402)
Visigoth (10.31)
Etruscan (10.62)

Hawkguy
05-14-2020, 04:22 AM
Ancient:

Thuringii + Roman Hispania (16.71)
Gaul + Roman Hispania (17.59)
Roman Hispania + Illyrian (18.77)
Thuringii + Illyrian (18.81)
Thuringii + Roman (19.17)
Roman Hispania (19.93)

Modern:

1. Spanish_Galicia (18.62)
2. Portuguese (19.10)
3. Spanish_Extremadura (20.33)
4. Spanish_Murcia (21.02)
5. Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon (21.05)
6. North_Italian (21.12)
7. Spanish_Cataluna (21.41)
8. French (21.50)

PCA Analysis:

https://imgur.com/FTaHzHw

SUPREEEEEME
05-14-2020, 06:42 AM
Ancient
Byzantine + Roman (7.19)
Seleucid + Roman (7.312)
Roman + Pontic (7.927)
Seleucid + Hellenic Roman (8.748)
Byzantine + Hellenic Roman (9.825)
Roman (10.67)
Hellenic Roman (13.9)
Seleucid (14.03)
Byzantine (14.96)
Pontic (15.41)

Modern
1. Italian_Abruzzo (7.528)
2. West_Sicilian (8.777)
3. Ashkenazi (9.430)
4. East_Sicilian (9.442)
5. Central_Greek (10.37)
6. Tuscan (11.59)
7. Greek (11.75)
8. South_Italian (11.99)

Ruderico
05-14-2020, 05:34 PM
This is just a K15, I don't see any changes on modern samples

Modern
1. Spanish_Aragon (4.667)
2. Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha (5.124)
3. Spanish_Valencia (5.891)
4. Spanish_Andalucia (6.050)
5. Spanish_Cantabria (7.072)
6. Southwest_French (7.087)
7. Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon (7.858)
8. Spanish_Murcia (8.027)


Ancient
Aquitani + Roman Hispania (3.74)
Al-Andalus + Aquitani (6.1)
Aquitani + Illyrian (6.375)
Roman Hispania + Etruscan (7.222)
Etruscan + Illyrian (7.641)
Roman Hispania (8.8)
Aquitani (9.758)
Al-Andalus (9.912)
Etruscan (11.02)
Illyrian (11.66)

Luso
05-14-2020, 05:55 PM
This is just a K15, I don't see any changes on modern samples

Modern
1. Spanish_Aragon (4.667)
2. Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha (5.124)
3. Spanish_Valencia (5.891)
4. Spanish_Andalucia (6.050)
5. Spanish_Cantabria (7.072)
6. Southwest_French (7.087)
7. Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon (7.858)
8. Spanish_Murcia (8.027)


Ancient
Aquitani + Roman Hispania (3.74)
Al-Andalus + Aquitani (6.1)
Aquitani + Illyrian (6.375)
Roman Hispania + Etruscan (7.222)
Etruscan + Illyrian (7.641)
Roman Hispania (8.8)
Aquitani (9.758)
Al-Andalus (9.912)
Etruscan (11.02)
Illyrian (11.66)

Yep, it is the same with my K15.

K15:
1 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 3.102061
2 Spanish_Murcia @ 3.227393
3 Spanish_Extremadura @ 4.173125
4 Portuguese @ 4.291553
5 Spanish_Cataluna @ 4.489760
6 Spanish_Valencia @ 6.161093
7 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 6.344589
8 Spanish_Galicia @ 6.601792

Schwop
05-16-2020, 03:40 PM
1. North_Swedish (4.411)
2. German_Central (6.310)
3. Swedish (7.613)
4. Southwest_Finnish (7.904)
5. Norwegian (9.064)
6. Finnish (9.654)
7. East_German (11.47)
8. West_Norwegian (11.76)

Ancient

Viking + Longobard (4.429)
Viking + Ostrogoth (5.845)
Viking Norwegian + Ostrogoth (7.214)
Longobard + Ostrogoth (8.006)
Viking Danish + Ostrogoth (8.785)
Viking (9.086)
Ostrogoth (10.67)
Longobard (11.45)
Viking Danish (12.16)
Viking Norwegian (12.18)