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Does anyone of them shift towards Mandeans/Iraqi Jews, like high Atlantic_Med and high Caucasus?
I think Mesopotamians are completely different from those folks.
Peterski
08-24-2020, 08:55 PM
This guy is very indigenous, zero SSA and less than 3% East African. His SW Asian is really huge, makes up over 60% of his entire admixture. How much Red Sea does he get on K13/K15?
K15:
Population
North_Sea -
Atlantic -
Baltic -
Eastern_Euro -
West_Med 1.58 Pct
West_Asian -
East_Med 45.72 Pct
Red_Sea 49.09 Pct
South_Asian -
Southeast_Asian 0.24 Pct
Siberian 0.42 Pct
Amerindian 0.31 Pct
Oceanian -
Northeast_African 2.63 Pct
Sub-Saharan -
K13:
Population
North_Atlantic -
Baltic -
West_Med 1.57 Pct
West_Asian -
East_Med 46.20 Pct
Red_Sea 48.38 Pct
South_Asian 0.42 Pct
East_Asian 0.28 Pct
Siberian 0.28 Pct
Amerindian 0.52 Pct
Oceanian -
Northeast_African 2.35 Pct
Sub-Saharan -
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BTW how do Saudis from various regions of Saudi Arabia score?
I think Mesopotamians are completely different from those folks.
Obviously. But maybe there are some that are natives + Arab mixed?
K15:
Population
North_Sea -
Atlantic -
Baltic -
Eastern_Euro -
West_Med 1.58 Pct
West_Asian -
East_Med 45.72 Pct
Red_Sea 49.09 Pct
South_Asian -
Southeast_Asian 0.24 Pct
Siberian 0.42 Pct
Amerindian 0.31 Pct
Oceanian -
Northeast_African 2.63 Pct
Sub-Saharan -
K13:
Population
North_Atlantic -
Baltic -
West_Med 1.57 Pct
West_Asian -
East_Med 46.20 Pct
Red_Sea 48.38 Pct
South_Asian 0.42 Pct
East_Asian 0.28 Pct
Siberian 0.28 Pct
Amerindian 0.52 Pct
Oceanian -
Northeast_African 2.35 Pct
Sub-Saharan -
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BTW how do Saudis from various regions of Saudi Arabia score?
I don't know. Posted a guy from the UAE earlier in this thread. He scored 45% SW Asian and I thought that was a lot.
I wonder what the Kuwaiti guy looks like.
Lucas
08-24-2020, 09:03 PM
Dodecad K12b of samples from Kuwait, many of them have Iranian origins, others are Peninsular Arabs & Bedouins:
Why is this country so mixed and which groups are actually native to Kuwait, LOL?
Check academic Qatari and UAE Arabs too for comparison. I don't have time for it today:)
Peterski
08-24-2020, 09:06 PM
Check academic Qatari and UAE Arabs too for comparison.
I already checked them months ago.
There are loads of immigrants in those datasets too, but at least it is possible to say which samples are Native Qataris / Native Emiratis.
Here it is hard to tell which are Native Kuwaitis IMO. The ones who are Saudi/Bedouin-like? Maybe no group is really native to the area?
PS:
Do you have Oman?
Lucas
08-24-2020, 09:09 PM
I already checked them months ago.
There are loads of immigrants in those datasets too, but at least it is possible to say which samples are Native Quataris / Native Emiratis. :)
Here it is hard to tell which are Native Kuwaitis, IMO. The ones who are Saudi/Bedouin-like? Maybe no group is really native to the area?
I remember authors stated that one group is Persian shifted, one SSA and one native. If it is the same study.
Oman not. From what I read should be Indian, East African and even Malay admixed to some extent.
Peterski
08-24-2020, 09:18 PM
Two ethnic Iraqis from Kuwait (or people with mixed Kuwaiti-Iraqi ancestry?) in Dodecad K12b:
Q8IRQ1
Gedrosia 15.60 Pct
Siberian 0.13 Pct
Northwest_African 2.41 Pct
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 7.07 Pct
North_European 3.55 Pct
South_Asian 2.81 Pct
East_African 3.68 Pct
Southwest_Asian 27.97 Pct
East_Asian 1.79 Pct
Caucasus 31.91 Pct
Sub_Saharan 3.08 Pct
Q8IRQ2
Gedrosia 13.46 Pct
Siberian 0.87 Pct
Northwest_African 3.26 Pct
Southeast_Asian 0.36 Pct
Atlantic_Med 7.71 Pct
North_European 2.58 Pct
South_Asian 1.07 Pct
East_African 4.26 Pct
Southwest_Asian 33.86 Pct
East_Asian 0.45 Pct
Caucasus 29.89 Pct
Sub_Saharan 2.22 Pct
K15:
Population
North_Sea -
Atlantic -
Baltic -
Eastern_Euro -
West_Med 1.58 Pct
West_Asian -
East_Med 45.72 Pct
Red_Sea 49.09 Pct
South_Asian -
Southeast_Asian 0.24 Pct
Siberian 0.42 Pct
Amerindian 0.31 Pct
Oceanian -
Northeast_African 2.63 Pct
Sub-Saharan -
K13:
Population
North_Atlantic -
Baltic -
West_Med 1.57 Pct
West_Asian -
East_Med 46.20 Pct
Red_Sea 48.38 Pct
South_Asian 0.42 Pct
East_Asian 0.28 Pct
Siberian 0.28 Pct
Amerindian 0.52 Pct
Oceanian -
Northeast_African 2.35 Pct
Sub-Saharan -
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BTW how do Saudis from various regions of Saudi Arabia score?
Saudis are diverse, the Saudi average we see on Gedmatch and that David uses is on the extreme end of Natufian/SW-Asian-like. There's a Saudi guy on Anthrogenica he shifts heavily towards the Levant but is "pure" from one tribe in Saudi Arabia.
...
Hey Lukasz, since you're here, can you please return the Uzbek average from the original spreadsheet?
Uzbeks,17.48,16.78,0.00,0.80,3.40,15.98,5.00,0.00, 2.30,23.28,14.99,0.00
It's not bad and should not have been deleted in the first place. Let there be two Uzbek refs there.
Peterski
08-24-2020, 09:26 PM
Does anyone of them shift towards Mandeans/Iraqi Jews, like high Atlantic_Med and high Caucasus?
Check these:
35.txt
56.txt
121.txt
133.txt
184.txt
185.txt
208.txt
Some also are close to Syrian Jews, but that's different right?
Saudis are diverse
Yes and there is not so much data available on them. At least not divided by regions.
Saudis are diverse, the Saudi average we see on Gedmatch and that David uses is on the extreme end of Natufian/SW-Asian-like. There's a Saudi guy on Anthrogenica he shifts heavily towards the Levant but is "pure" from one tribe in Saudi Arabia.
I think it's not difficult to find his Dodecad but I'm not gonna log into Anthrogenica.
Some Saudis are not even that brown actually. For ex Al Fadi, a Christian convert from SA living in the U.S.
https://thesonofgodorg.files.wordpress.com/2017/07/295792-al-fadi.jpg?w=723
I think it's not difficult to find his Dodecad but I'm not gonna log into Anthrogenica.
Some Saudis are not even that brown actually. For ex Al Fadi, a Christian convert from SA living in the U.S.
https://thesonofgodorg.files.wordpress.com/2017/07/295792-al-fadi.jpg?w=723
I think Saudis(or atleast some of them) are like the Sardinians of West Asia, they score very high of a component that is present in the region, but they score much more of it than their neighbours. For Saudis it's Natufian and for Sardinians it's Anatolian farmer.
Look wise I think Saudis are not that unique, those who don't have visible SSA influence pass often time further north IMO.
Peterski
08-24-2020, 10:46 PM
but they score much more of it than their neighbours
Except they don't. Yemenis, Emiratis, Qataris, Kuwaitis all can have similar if not higher levels from what I've seen.
Have you seen any Oman/Bahrain results?
Another Georgian. The highest % of Caucasus I've seen so far
Gedrosia 20.83 Pct
Siberian -
Northwest_African 0.14 Pct
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 4.99 Pct
North_European 6.30 Pct
South_Asian 0.30 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 5.74 Pct
East_Asian -
Caucasus 61.69 Pct
Sub_Saharan -
Distance to: Nate
3.27062685 Georgian_Imereti
3.97460690 Georgian_Mingrelian
4.51376783 Georgian_Turkey
5.63448312 Georgian_Adjara
5.67711194 Georgian_Gurian
6.73453042 Georgian_Svan
8.45871149 Laz
9.10402658 Abkhazian
9.51504598 Hemshin
10.06947367 Turk_Ahiska
Target: Nate
Distance: 2.8335% / 2.83349999 | ADC: 0.25x
56.2 Georgian_Mingrelian
43.8 Georgian_Turkey
Target: Nate
Distance: 2.8287% / 2.82871706
58.8 Georgian_Mingrelian
26.4 Georgian_Turkey
14.8 Georgian_Adjara
Caucasus + Gedrosia = 82.5%
Except they don't. Yemenis, Emiratis, Qataris, Kuwaitis all can have similar if not higher levels from what I've seen.
Have you seen any Oman/Bahrain results?
No, it's difficult to find.
Peterski
08-24-2020, 11:33 PM
Kuwaitis just form a continuum but a large part of them cluster with Iraqis.
Dr_Maul
08-24-2020, 11:49 PM
Some kits
PJ6909488 - Jewish, Ashkenazi (15.5% SW Asian)
PJ7334497 - Jewish, Ashkenazi (13.5% SW Asian)
QS5312457 - Jewish, Ashkenazi (13% SW Asian
UV7107037 - some form of Tatar (16.5% E Asian)
DL7904628 - some form of Iranian with very strong Caucasus
WZ3410551 - Armenian, slight Semitic shift
TQ1054471 - Armenian, slight Iranian shift
Dr_Maul
08-25-2020, 02:13 AM
LD6928022 - Either significantly Iranian shifted Arab or half Iranian half Arab
TP6153687 - Some form of Turkish, likely East Anatolian (1% Mong)
H642192 - Turkish with higher Euro and lower mong
SV7447628 - Pakistani, likely mixed Pashtun/Indic (12% N Euro)
A924489 - Med-shifted Armenian
Here is some rare and cool-ass stuff: a Tajik from Khujand, Northern Tajikistan. Found on Reddit
Y-DNA: C-P92
mtDNA: T1
Gedrosia 24.97 Pct
Siberian 6.65 Pct
Northwest_African -
Southeast_Asian 0.20 Pct
Atlantic_Med 6.76 Pct
North_European 20.00 Pct
South_Asian 8.11 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 3.04 Pct
East_Asian 11.71 Pct
Caucasus 18.56 Pct
Sub_Saharan -
Distance to: Tjk_from_Khujand
6.56003811 Tajik_Tajikistan
10.27182554 Tajiks
12.14027183 Pamiri_Shughnan
12.46552045 Turkmen_Uzbekistan
12.70402298 Pamiri_Rushan
12.77456457 Uzbek
12.88114902 Yagnobi
13.41114462 Pamiri_Ishkashim
14.42858621 Tajik_Herat
14.44618289 Turkmen_Iran
Target: Tjk_from_Khujand
Distance: 1.6961% / 1.69609620 | ADC: 0.25x
69.2 Tajik_Tajikistan
10.6 Crimean_Tatar_Steppe
8.2 Pamiri_Shughnan
5.8 Uzbek
2.6 Brahmins_from_Uttaranchal
1.4 Japanese
1.2 Norwegian
1.0 JPT30
HarappaWorld & Eurogenes K13:
S-Indian 7.45 Pct
Baloch 25.18 Pct
Caucasian 20.79 Pct
NE-Euro 18.20 Pct
SE-Asian -
Siberian 5.99 Pct
NE-Asian 10.13 Pct
Papuan 0.76 Pct
American 1.98 Pct
Beringian 1.48 Pct
Mediterranean 5.24 Pct
SW-Asian 2.50 Pct
San 0.25 Pct
E-African -
Pygmy -
W-African 0.05 Pct
North_Atlantic 17.16 Pct
Baltic 9.87 Pct
West_Med -
West_Asian 31.25 Pct
East_Med 6.24 Pct
Red_Sea 1.55 Pct
South_Asian 14.30 Pct
East_Asian 7.40 Pct
Siberian 9.27 Pct
Amerindian 2.45 Pct
Oceanian 0.29 Pct
Northeast_African 0.23 Pct
Sub-Saharan -
I guess the Aryans are back in town :cool:
Dr_Maul
08-25-2020, 05:46 PM
Various Turkish, I could not identify specifics.
BP7807329 - standard Anatolian Turk result.
GD6138061 - high Mongoloid.
QK1465348 - high European.
Armenian from around Erzurum (Turkey) originally:
Gedrosian: 20.02
Siberian: 0.00
Northwest_African: 0.00
Southeast_Asian: 0.00
Atlantic_Med: 11.26
North_European: 2.60
South_Asian 0.48
East_African 0.56
Southwest_Asian: 16.60
East_Asian: 0.00
Caucasian: 48.42
SSA: 0.06
Distance to: Erzurum_Armenian
3.42670396 Armenian_West
3.94196651 Assyrian
5.02513681 Azerbaijan_Jews
5.56740514 Uzbekistan_Jews
5.75811601 Armenian_East
6.74324848 Georgia_Jews
7.86655579 Turk_East
8.23079583 Udi_Azerbaijan
8.23601846 Iranian_Jews
9.34841698 Greek_Pontus
9.57726475 Iraq_Jews
9.85759098 Zaza
9.88553489 Turk_East_Black_Sea
10.74142449 Hemshin
10.83905900 Turk_Ahiska
11.25576741 Turkmen_Iraq
11.39040386 Nusayri_Turkey
11.56189863 Kurd_Kurmanji
11.86569846 Kurd_KAZ
11.86705945 Laz
12.15947367 Talysh_Azerbaijan
12.16697990 Greek_Cappadocia
12.52767337 Kurd_Sorani
12.65377414 Azerbaijani_Turkey
13.19626083 Azerbaijani_Iran
Target: Erzurum_Armenian
Distance: 1.2102% / 1.21020041 | ADC: 0.25x
61.6 Armenian_West
21.2 Assyrian
9.0 Azerbaijan_Jews
6.6 Kurd_KAZ
1.6 Brahui
Turkish (2 grandparent born in Giresun, 1 in Amasya and 1 in Erzincan)
Gedrosia 14.07 Pct
Siberian 4.92 Pct
Northwest_African 0.19 Pct
Southeast_Asian 0.34 Pct
Atlantic_Med 19.46 Pct
North_European 8.74 Pct
South_Asian 1.07 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 9.93 Pct
East_Asian 2.08 Pct
Caucasus 39.19 Pct
Sub_Saharan -
Distance to: Tekin
7.17145731 Turk_Central_West
7.44517965 Turk_West_BlackSea
7.74948385 Turk_Anatolia
8.03118298 Turk_Central_East
8.79784633 Turk_Southwest
8.83523627 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
9.26864607 Turk_South
10.25464285 Turk_Northwest
10.63676643 Turk_Southeast
10.93935556 Greek_Crete
Target: Tekin
Distance: 2.5101% / 2.51006086 | ADC: 0.25x
38.2 Turk_Central_East
21.0 Turk_West_BlackSea
20.8 Greek_Cappadocia
11.6 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
5.8 Sardinian
2.0 French_Basque
0.6 Nganassan
Azerbaijani from Nagorno-Karabakh with some Kurdish ancestry, Father is from Iran, East Azerbaijan province:
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/amp/idt2/816/5c4c00a0-f285-4a43-ad25-da95833a358a?published=1594724818618
Gedrosia 22.55 Pct
Siberian 4.99 Pct
Northwest_African-
Southeast_Asian-
Atlantic_Med 6.82 Pct
North_European 12.11 Pct
South_Asian-
East_African 0.70 Pct
Southwest_Asian 9.81 Pct
East_Asian 3.88 Pct
Caucasus 39.15 Pct
Sub_Saharan-
Distance to: AZ_NK
6.07042832 Azerbaijani
6.18867514 Azerbaijani_Turkey
6.30770957 Azerbaijani_Iran
7.01826902 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
8.62614630 Turk_Southeast
8.90218513 Talysh_Azerbaijan
8.98875965 Kurd_Kurmanji
9.19565115 Zaza
9.27370476 Turk_South
9.67413562 Turk_Central_East
9.83403274 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
10.41705813 Turk_Anatolia
10.47328506 Ingush
10.55690769 Udi_Azerbaijan
10.92566245 Iranian
11.02103443 Turk_Central_West
11.03622671 Kurd_KAZ
11.09255606 Turkmen_Iraq
11.15010314 Turk_East
11.15443858 Kurd_Sorani
11.46151386 Karachay
11.71560071 Iran_Khorasan
12.06972659 Qumuq
12.26488076 Balkar
12.27006520 Turk_Southwest
Target: AZ_NK
Distance: 2.1662% / 2.16624282 | ADC: 0.25x
47.6 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
17.6 Azerbaijani
16.0 Kurd_KAZ
15.4 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
3.4 Tuva
Cool. She is not totally typical, I think. Higher North European, zero South Asian and almost 9% Mongoloid.
Bender1999
08-26-2020, 01:20 PM
Cool. She is not totally typical, I think. Higher North European, zero South Asian and almost 9% Mongoloid.
Indeed no South asian, that is interesting but nothing atypical about theNorth european and mongoloid components. Either the Kurdish side had Turkish ancestry too or the Azerbaijani side is more Turkic influenced. But i don’t see anything atypical about east eurasian admixture.
Indeed no South asian, that is interesting but nothing atypical about theNorth european and mongoloid components. Either the Kurdish side had Turkish ancestry too or the Azerbaijani side is more Turkic influenced. But i don’t see anything atypical about east eurasian admixture.
I think the Turkish results above are actually more atypical. 19% Atlantic Med in Turkey? :icon_ask:
Bender1999
08-26-2020, 01:36 PM
I think the Turkish results above are actually more atypical. 19% Atlantic Med in Turkey? :icon_ask:
Probably from Erzincan side, saw once a kurdish result with over 20% Med from this city. But i don’t know, is high AtlanticNed atypical for Caucasians? Honestly i never note this component, it is really interesting for non egean Turk.
Probably from Erzincan side, saw once a kurdish result with over 20% Med from this city. But i don’t know, is high AtlanticNed atypical for Caucasians? Honestly i never note this component, it is really interesting for non egean Turk.
Yes, it's low in the Caucasus, almost always below 10%. That is a very Western component, not very prominent in West Asia or even parts of Eastern Europe like Russia.
That Turk is real, I saw his genealogy, I wouldn't post some made-up shit.
Yes, it's low in the Caucasus, almost always below 10%. That is a very Western component, not very prominent in West Asia or even parts of Eastern Europe like Russia.
That Turk is real, I saw his genealogy, I wouldn't post some made-up shit.
How much do Pontic Greeks score? Could be from his Giresun side.
How much do Pontic Greeks score? Could be from his Giresun side.
It says Greek Pontus is only 12.56% (about the same as Western Armenians), however Greek Cappadocia is 18.85%. I think he may have some "recent" Greek in him. Crete is 23.4% AM for example, even Cyprus is 20.88%.
It says Greek Pontus is only 12.56% (about the same as Western Armenians), however Greek Cappadocia is 18.85%. I think he may have some "recent" Greek in him. Crete is 23.4% AM for example, even Cyprus is 20.88%.
Maybe his Giresun side is not Turkic.
Bender1999
08-26-2020, 02:21 PM
Maybe his Giresun side is not Turkic.
I don’t know, Giresun is mostly Turkish, there are maybe still some Greek villages but i have no idea. I even don’t know whether there are Lazes(although they describe themselves often as Laz). Maybe distant aegean greek ancestry?
Btw i read that those one from Aksaray which you posted, the village was well known place in Roman/Byzantine era. Idk whether it is true or not, but maybe it explains the haplogroup of this person.
Maybe his Giresun side is not Turkic.
His Eurogenes for comparison
Eurogenes K13 Oracle results:
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 West_Asian 29.99
2 East_Med 28.17
3 West_Med 12.72
4 North_Atlantic 11.35
5 Siberian 4.65
6 Red_Sea 4.18
7 South_Asian 3.57
8 Baltic 3.18
9 East_Asian 1.63
10 Oceanian 0.55
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Turkish 4.41
2 Azeri 9.36
3 Armenian 13.23
4 Kurdish 13.95
5 Georgian_Jewish 14.36
6 Assyrian 14.54
7 Lebanese_Muslim 15.53
8 Iranian 15.54
9 Turkmen 16.69
10 Iranian_Jewish 16.93
11 Kumyk 17
12 Syrian 17.03
13 Kurdish_Jewish 17.11
14 Cyprian 17.36
15 Central_Greek 17.78
16 South_Italian 17.83
17 East_Sicilian 18.42
18 Italian_Abruzzo 18.9
19 Sephardic_Jewish 19.27
20 Balkar 19.95
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 94% Turkish + 6% French_Basque @ 2.77
2 92.9% Turkish + 7.1% Spanish_Aragon @ 2.9
3 92.2% Turkish + 7.8% Spanish_Andalucia @ 2.96
4 92.6% Turkish + 7.4% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 3
5 92.4% Turkish + 7.6% Spanish_Murcia @ 3.01
6 92.6% Turkish + 7.4% Spanish_Cataluna @ 3.01
7 92.6% Turkish + 7.4% Spanish_Valencia @ 3.01
8 93.1% Turkish + 6.9% Spanish_Cantabria @ 3.07
9 92.8% Turkish + 7.2% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 3.09
10 92.4% Turkish + 7.6% Spanish_Extremadura @ 3.1
11 93.4% Turkish + 6.6% Southwest_French @ 3.11
12 94.2% Turkish + 5.8% Southwest_English @ 3.14
13 92.5% Turkish + 7.5% Portuguese @ 3.14
14 92.9% Turkish + 7.1% French @ 3.15
15 94.3% Turkish + 5.7% West_Scottish @ 3.17
16 94.1% Turkish + 5.9% Southeast_English @ 3.19
17 92.9% Turkish + 7.1% Spanish_Galicia @ 3.21
18 94.3% Turkish + 5.7% Orcadian @ 3.22
19 94.4% Turkish + 5.6% Irish @ 3.22
20 91.3% Turkish + 8.7% North_Italian @ 3.26
Some slight Southwestern shift.
Two Iranians, close relatives (like brother and sister or father and daughter)
R1b1b2a
Y1
Gedrosia 26.55 Pct
Siberian -
Northwest_African 1.15 Pct
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 4.63 Pct
North_European 8.64 Pct
South_Asian 4.82 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 11.05 Pct
East_Asian 2.01 Pct
Caucasus 40.91 Pct
Sub_Saharan 0.25 Pct
Distance to: Arta
3.69086711 Talysh_Azerbaijan
5.01009980 Iranian
5.98619245 Kurd_KAZ
6.53821076 Kurd_Kurmanji
6.58189942 Zaza
6.68279133 Iran_Mazandaran
6.74446440 Lur_Iran
7.17522125 Azerbaijani_Iran
7.22882425 Kurd_Sorani
7.71789479 Iranian_Fars
Target: Arta
Distance: 2.3539% / 2.35389579 | ADC: 0.5x
68.2 Talysh_Azerbaijan
20.4 Iran_Mazandaran
7.2 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
4.2 Iran_Khorasan
Target: Arta
Distance: 1.6567% / 1.65667544 | ADC: 0.25x
58.6 Talysh_Azerbaijan
27.4 Iran_Mazandaran
11.2 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
1.2 Adygei
0.8 Pulliyar
0.4 JPT30
0.2 Japanese
0.2 Mozabite
Gedrosia 29.58 Pct
Siberian -
Northwest_African -
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 4.14 Pct
North_European 7.80 Pct
South_Asian 4.51 Pct
East_African 0.55 Pct
Southwest_Asian 11.57 Pct
East_Asian 0.50 Pct
Caucasus 40.78 Pct
Sub_Saharan 0.57 Pct
Distance to: Nahid
3.60513523 Iran_Mazandaran
3.60898878 Iranian
5.32484742 Talysh_Azerbaijan
5.49437895 Kurd_KAZ
6.03250363 Lur_Iran
6.59748437 Iranians
7.62737176 Iranian_Fars
7.98748396 Kurd_Kurmanji
8.11825720 Zaza
8.21486458 Kurd_Sorani
arget: Nahid
Distance: 1.4435% / 1.44351250 | ADC: 0.5x
63.0 Iran_Mazandaran
33.0 Talysh_Azerbaijan
3.4 Kurd_KAZ
0.6 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
Target: Nahid
Distance: 1.1584% / 1.15836486 | ADC: 0.25x
64.8 Iran_Mazandaran
13.6 Talysh_Azerbaijan
10.6 Kurd_KAZ
5.8 Udi_Azerbaijan
5.2 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
Their DNA relative
Gedrosia 26.32 Pct
Siberian 2.96 Pct
Northwest_African 1.33 Pct
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 6.21 Pct
North_European 6.51 Pct
South_Asian 3.39 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 14.35 Pct
East_Asian 2.57 Pct
Caucasus 36.37 Pct
Sub_Saharan -
Distance to: Pedram
4.47219186 Iranian_Fars
4.95483602 Lur_Iran
5.04282659 Kurd_Sorani
5.45948716 Kurd_Kurmanji
5.76519731 Iranian
6.12580607 Iranians
6.17949836 Azerbaijani_Iran
6.52842247 Talysh_Azerbaijan
6.63477204 Turkmen_Iraq
7.17398773 Iran_Central_East
Target: Pedram
Distance: 2.3926% / 2.39257492 | ADC: 0.5x
45.6 Iranian_Fars
26.8 Azerbaijani_Iran
26.8 Lur_Iran
0.8 Altai
Target: Pedram
Distance: 1.4761% / 1.47605927 | ADC: 0.25x
30.6 Lur_Iran
28.6 Kurd_Kurmanji
22.6 Iranian_Fars
7.2 Turkmens
3.6 Iranians
2.6 Altai
2.0 Kurd_KAZ
2.0 Kurd_Sorani
0.8 Saudis
Bender1999
08-26-2020, 04:48 PM
His Eurogenes for comparison
[spoiler]
Eurogenes K13 Oracle results:
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 West_Asian 29.99
2 East_Med 28.17
3 West_Med 12.72
4 North_Atlantic 11.35
5 Siberian 4.65
6 Red_Sea 4.18
7 South_Asian 3.57
8 Baltic 3.18
9 East_Asian 1.63
10 Oceanian 0.55
Some slight Southwestern shift.
I think it is a regular Giresun result with less Turkic. But i cant explain why the person gets high Atlantic.
Azerbaijani from Nagorno-Karabakh with some Kurdish ancestry:
Gedrosia 22.55 Pct
Siberian 4.99 Pct
Northwest_African-
Southeast_Asian-
Atlantic_Med 6.82 Pct
North_European 12.11 Pct
South_Asian-
East_African 0.70 Pct
Southwest_Asian 9.81 Pct
East_Asian 3.88 Pct
Caucasus 39.15 Pct
Sub_Saharan-
Distance to: AZ_NK
6.07042832 Azerbaijani
6.18867514 Azerbaijani_Turkey
6.30770957 Azerbaijani_Iran
7.01826902 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
8.62614630 Turk_Southeast
8.90218513 Talysh_Azerbaijan
8.98875965 Kurd_Kurmanji
9.19565115 Zaza
9.27370476 Turk_South
9.67413562 Turk_Central_East
9.83403274 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
10.41705813 Turk_Anatolia
10.47328506 Ingush
10.55690769 Udi_Azerbaijan
10.92566245 Iranian
11.02103443 Turk_Central_West
11.03622671 Kurd_KAZ
11.09255606 Turkmen_Iraq
11.15010314 Turk_East
11.15443858 Kurd_Sorani
11.46151386 Karachay
11.71560071 Iran_Khorasan
12.06972659 Qumuq
12.26488076 Balkar
12.27006520 Turk_Southwest
Target: AZ_NK
Distance: 2.1662% / 2.16624282 | ADC: 0.25x
47.6 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
17.6 Azerbaijani
16.0 Kurd_KAZ
15.4 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
3.4 Tuva
Edit: Her Father is Azerbaijani from Iran (close to border of AzerbaijanRep) East Azerbaijan province
Edit: Her Father is Azerbaijani from Iran (close to border of Azerbaijan) East Azerbaijan province
Then my point is valid. 12% IS high for the region.
Native of Azerbaijan dated to 7000 years ago (Pre Iranization and Turkification):
Gedrosian: 13.24
Siberian: 0.00
Northwest_African: 0.00
Southeast_Asian: 0.00
Atlantic_Med: 16.41
North_European: 0.00
South_Asian 0.00
East_African 0.00
Southwest_Asian: 15.71
East_Asian: 0.00
Caucasian: 54.63
South_African: 0.00
Distance to: Azer_lowlands
6.74782928 Greek_Pontus
8.42985172 Armenian_West
9.11287551 Turk_East_Black_Sea
9.76251504 Azerbaijan_Jews
9.90548838 Greek_Cappadocia
10.55729606 Hemshin
10.63691685 Armenian_East
11.13440165 Georgia_Jews
11.20907668 Druze
11.34352238 Cypriots
11.37019789 Laz
12.03657759 Assyrian
13.08230102 Nusayri_Turkey
14.11108430 Iraq_Jews
14.13693743 Georgian_Adjara
14.18938688 Iranian_Jews
14.56545228 Turk_East
14.86358301 Turk_Ahiska
15.45295117 Georgian_Turkey
15.53559461 Uzbekistan_Jews
16.58018396 Udi_Azerbaijan
17.56470040 Lebanese
18.09452403 Georgian_Imereti
19.19992448 Turk_Central_East
19.88810197 Zaza
Target: Azer_lowlands
Distance: 4.3361% / 4.33607619
47.6 Georgian_Adjara
24.2 Samaritians
15.2 Greek_Pontus
9.0 Sardinian
4.0 Azerbaijan_Jews
Testing some new references added by Mingle
Afghan Tajik from the Panjshir Valley
Gedrosia 37.33 Pct
Siberian 2.55 Pct
Northwest_African -
Southeast_Asian 1.05 Pct
Atlantic_Med 2.73 Pct
North_European 12.75 Pct
South_Asian 18.50 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 2.98 Pct
East_Asian 1.02 Pct
Caucasus 20.57 Pct
Sub_Saharan 0.52 Pct
Distance to: Roshana
2.07651150 Tajik_East_Afghanistan
4.12145605 Pashtun_Kandahar
5.72883932 Pashtun_Tarkalani
6.17590479 Pashtun_Uthmankhel
6.79957352 Tajik_Kabul
7.07241826 Pashtun_Yusafzai
8.25344776 Nuristani
8.25771155 Kho
8.92188881 Kalash
11.64160212 Tajik_Herat
Target: Roshana
Distance: 1.2179% / 1.21785941 | ADC: 0.5x
93.8 Tajik_East_Afghanistan
6.2 Parsi_India
Target: Roshana
Distance: 0.9443% / 0.94434384 | ADC: 0.25x
91.6 Tajik_East_Afghanistan
5.2 Parsi_India
1.6 Georgian_Adjara
1.6 Pashtun_Yusafzai
New higher match from Western Turkey (assumingly) possible Balkan roots:
Gedrosian: 10.55
Siberian: 4.45
Northwest_African: 1.32
Southeast_Asian: 1.33
Atlantic_Med: 13.38
North_European: 16.79
South_Asian 1.37
East_African 0.00
Southwest_Asian: 12.74
East_Asian: 4.88
Caucasian: 33.19
South_African: 0.00
Distance to: Turkmatch
5.30248998 Turk_Northwest
6.59085730 Turk_West_BlackSea
6.88682801 Turk_Southwest
8.03534069 Crimean_Tatar_Mountain
8.61089426 Turk_Central_West
8.83753359 Turk_Anatolia
9.78080263 Turk_South
10.29330851 Yoruk
10.66452999 Crimean_Tatar_Coast
11.36835520 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
11.64098793 Turk_Central_East
12.79404940 Turk_Southeast
14.29419463 Greek_Crete
14.75688314 Azerbaijani
14.75901921 Italy_Apulia
14.76990183 MD_Jewish
15.52257711 Azerbaijani_Turkey
15.55542349 Ashkenazi_Jews
16.33106243 Turk_Greece
16.33699620 Italy_Sicily
16.64805995 Azerbaijani_Iran
16.86065762 Italy_Calabria
17.32226313 Qumuq
17.35117863 Turk_Macedonia
17.47395490 Turk_Bulgaria
Target: Turkmatch
Distance: 1.8385% / 1.83848093 | ADC: 0.25x
53.6 Turk_Northwest
36.2 Crimean_Tatar_Mountain
8.4 Yemen_Jews
1.6 Mordovian
0.2 Garo
New higher match from Western Turkey (assumingly):
One of the most European Turks unless he has Balkan roots.
Unknown European
08-28-2020, 02:39 PM
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 34.33
2 Mediterranean 25.02
3 SW-Asian 19
4 NE-Euro 11.69
5 Baloch 6.9
6 E-African 1.53
7 Papuan 0.94
8 NE-Asian 0.52
9 Pygmy 0.07
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 sephardic-jew (behar) 3.31
2 morocco-jew (behar) 4.64
3 ashkenazy-jew (behar) 5.49
4 ashkenazi (harappa) 8.9
5 cypriot (behar) 15.25
6 lebanese (behar) 16.29
7 turk-aydin (hodoglugil) 17.03
8 tuscan (1000genomes) 17.38
9 tuscan (hgdp) 17.97
10 tuscan (hapmap) 18.56
11 jordanian (behar) 18.85
12 syrian (behar) 18.98
13 palestinian (harappa) 19.4
14 lebanese-muslim (haber) 19.58
15 palestinian (hgdp) 20.16
16 turk-kayseri (hodoglugil) 20.42
17 turk-istanbul (hodoglugil) 21.08
18 lebanese-christian (haber) 21.57
19 iraqi-arab (harappa) 21.83
20 egypt (henn2012) 21.87
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 96.5% sephardic-jew (behar) + 3.5% finnish (1000genomes) @ 1.95
2 96% sephardic-jew (behar) + 4% lithuanian (behar) @ 1.98
3 95.7% sephardic-jew (behar) + 4.3% russian (hgdp) @ 2.05
4 95.6% sephardic-jew (behar) + 4.4% belorussian (behar) @ 2.05
5 95.1% sephardic-jew (behar) + 4.9% ukranian (yunusbayev) @ 2.08
6 95.5% sephardic-jew (behar) + 4.5% mordovian (yunusbayev) @ 2.1
7 95.6% sephardic-jew (behar) + 4.4% russian (behar) @ 2.14
8 94.4% sephardic-jew (behar) + 5.6% slovenian (xing) @ 2.14
9 95% sephardic-jew (behar) + 5% n-european (xing) @ 2.16
10 95.1% sephardic-jew (behar) + 4.9% utahn-white (hapmap) @ 2.16
11 94.3% sephardic-jew (behar) + 5.7% hungarian (behar) @ 2.16
12 95.4% sephardic-jew (behar) + 4.6% orcadian (hgdp) @ 2.17
13 95.1% sephardic-jew (behar) + 4.9% utahn-white (1000genomes) @ 2.21
14 95.2% sephardic-jew (behar) + 4.8% british (1000genomes) @ 2.21
15 55.2% morocco-jew (behar) + 44.8% ashkenazy-jew (behar) @ 2.26
16 95.6% sephardic-jew (behar) + 4.4% chuvash (behar) @ 2.31
17 94.6% sephardic-jew (behar) + 5.4% french (hgdp) @ 2.37
18 92.1% sephardic-jew (behar) + 7.9% romanian-a (behar) @ 2.39
19 92.1% sephardic-jew (behar) + 7.9% bulgarian (yunusbayev) @ 2.46
20 69.3% sephardic-jew (behar) + 30.7% ashkenazy-jew (behar) @ 2.49
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 34.33
2 Mediterranean 25.02
3 SW-Asian 19.00
4 NE-Euro 11.69
5 Baloch 6.90
6 E-African 1.53
Finished reading population data. 377 populations found.
16 components mode.
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Least-squares method.
Using 1 population approximation:
1 sephardic-jew_behar @ 3.590503
2 morocco-jew_behar @ 4.978616
3 ashkenazy-jew_behar @ 5.947992
4 ashkenazi_harappa @ 9.710371
5 cypriot_behar @ 16.965946
6 lebanese_behar @ 17.674091
7 turk-aydin_hodoglugil @ 18.254101
8 tuscan_1000genomes @ 18.929239
9 tuscan_hgdp @ 19.576252
10 tuscan_hapmap @ 20.212818
11 jordanian_behar @ 20.336794
12 syrian_behar @ 20.523235
13 palestinian_harappa @ 21.003513
14 lebanese-muslim_haber @ 21.326862
15 palestinian_hgdp @ 21.758886
16 turk-kayseri_hodoglugil @ 22.190931
17 turk-istanbul_hodoglugil @ 22.879721
18 egypt_henn2012 @ 23.451275
19 iraqi-arab_harappa @ 23.645813
20 lebanese-christian_haber @ 23.681116
Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% ashkenazy-jew_behar +50% morocco-jew_behar @ 2.385954
Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% morocco-jew_behar +25% syrian_behar +25% tuscan_1000genomes @ 2.243322
Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++
1 georgian_harappa + sardinian_hgdp + saudi_behar + tuscan_hapmap @ 1.683474
2 cypriot_behar + palestinian_hgdp + sephardic-jew_behar + spaniard_behar @ 1.718558
3 georgian_harappa + sardinian_hgdp + saudi_behar + tuscan_hgdp @ 1.741500
4 bedouin_hgdp + georgian_harappa + sardinian_hgdp + tuscan_1000genomes @ 1.761135
5 cypriot_behar + palestinian_hgdp + sephardic-jew_behar + spaniard_1000genomes @ 1.783774
6 armenian_yunusbayev + romanian-a_behar + sardinian_hgdp + yemen-jew_behar @ 1.787393
7 italian_hgdp + palestinian_hgdp + sephardic-jew_behar + sephardic-jew_behar @ 1.795926
8 georgian_harappa + sardinian_hgdp + saudi_behar + tuscan_1000genomes @ 1.821037
9 lebanese_behar + samaritian_behar + sephardic-jew_behar + spaniard_behar @ 1.826842
10 bedouin_hgdp + georgian_harappa + sardinian_hgdp + tuscan_hgdp @ 1.850118
11 assyrian_harappa + bulgarian_yunusbayev + sardinian_hgdp + yemen-jew_behar @ 1.867005
12 morocco-jew_behar + palestinian_hgdp + sephardic-jew_behar + tuscan_hapmap @ 1.910509
13 abhkasian_yunusbayev + bedouin_hgdp + sardinian_hgdp + tuscan_1000genomes @ 1.911091
14 lebanese_behar + samaritian_behar + sephardic-jew_behar + spaniard_1000genomes @ 1.916862
15 jordanian_behar + morocco-jew_behar + sephardic-jew_behar + tuscan_hapmap @ 1.918590
16 abhkasian_yunusbayev + bedouin_hgdp + sardinian_hgdp + tuscan_hgdp @ 1.941729
17 jordanian_behar + morocco-jew_behar + sephardic-jew_behar + tuscan_hgdp @ 1.942047
18 morocco-jew_behar + palestinian_hgdp + sephardic-jew_behar + tuscan_hgdp @ 1.951995
19 bedouin_hgdp + georgian_harappa + sardinian_hgdp + tuscan_hapmap @ 1.958988
20 cypriot_behar + morocco-jew_behar + samaritian_behar + spaniard_behar @ 1.960613
I think the Mixed Mode Population Sharing is very accurate and a good model (~95% Sephardic and ~5% Northern European)
I feel like generally I have more genetic affinity to Iberians, Sardinians, North Africans, and South Arabs then most Ashkenazi Jews.
...
That isn't Dodecad K12b, man. I also asked you to add your coordinates to this spreadsheet:
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?330249-Model-yourself-with-other-Apricity-members-with-Dodecad-K12b-and-Vahaduo
Reposted from the first thread (different oracle) - a Zarafshan Tajik
Gedrosia 24.58
Siberian 6.86
Northwest_African -
Southeast_Asian 0.29
Atlantic_Med 6.49
North_European 20.24
South_Asian 8.15
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 4.56
East_Asian 8.48
Caucasus 20.35
Sub_Saharan -
Distance to: TJK_Zarafshan
4.74936838 Tajik_Tajikistan
10.19848028 Tajiks
10.30767675 Yagnobi
11.06920051 Pamiri_Shughnan
11.38121259 Pamiri_Rushan
12.35462666 Turkmen_Iran
12.63729797 Tajik_Herat
12.70396788 Pamiri_Ishkashim
12.92407830 Turkmen_Uzbekistan
14.11203387 Turkmen
Target: TJK_Zarafshan
Distance: 2.4636% / 2.46363329 | ADC: 0.5x
86.8 Tajik_Tajikistan
12.0 Crimean_Tatar_Steppe
1.2 Balkan_Gypsy
Target: TJK_Zarafshan
Distance: 1.6606% / 1.66062561 | ADC: 0.25x
81.0 Tajik_Tajikistan
11.8 Crimean_Tatar_Steppe
4.0 Balkan_Gypsy
1.2 Uzbeks
1.2 Mordovian
0.8 Saudis
25% Azerbaijani from Tabriz 25% Persian + 50%Irish/Scottish:
Gedrosian: 16.81
Siberian: 0.24
Northwest_African: 0.00
Southeast_Asian: 0.00
Atlantic_Med: 23.10
North_European: 26.61
South_Asian 1.79
East_African 0.00
Southwest_Asian: 5.83
East_Asian: 2.53
Caucasian: 23.09
South_African: 0.00
Distance to: SA
8.74645643 Turk_Romania
10.28424523 Turk_Bulgaria
11.49886081 Turk_Greece
11.96317684 R.Moldova_Gagauz
12.34615730 Turk_Macedonia
13.17044039 Gagauz
13.44540814 R.Moldova_South
14.59193613 Pomak
14.74650128 Macedonian
14.85711277 Albanian_Kosovo
15.03827450 Crimean_Tatar_Mountain
15.50892324 Albanian_North
16.22222241 Montenegrin
16.77055157 Crimean_Tatar_Coast
16.86859431 Italy_Lazio
17.04314455 Italy_FriuliVG
17.48930530 Bulgarian
17.73132257 Romanians
17.89098656 Italy_Romagna
17.98916618 HUN_Szekely
18.16621865 Serb
18.21080837 Italy_Veneto
18.22157068 Italy_Marche
18.37403080 Italy_Apulia
18.67752634 Italy_Tuscany
RatCat
08-29-2020, 09:50 AM
Half Circassian + Half Italian
Population
Gedrosia 11.04 Pct
Siberian 0.33 Pct
Northwest_African 0.27 Pct
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 25.06 Pct
North_European 22.89 Pct
South_Asian 1.50 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 4.42 Pct
East_Asian 0.91 Pct
Caucasus 33.57 Pct
Sub_Saharan -
Distance: 1.9889% / 1.98891298
41.8 Circassian
30.2 Italy_Lombardy
16.4 Italy_Veneto
11.6 Italy_Trentino
Distance to:
6.82276337 Turk_Macedonia
7.85924297 Crimean_Tatar_Coast
8.64602221 Turk_Greece
10.15316699 Crimean_Tatar_Mountain
10.15786926 Italy_Apulia
10.55051184 Albanian_Kosovo
10.93976234 Turk_Bulgaria
11.08890887 R.Moldova_Gagauz
11.20787669 Greek
11.35852903 Italy_Abruzzo
11.37092784 Gagauz
11.40624390 Albanian_North
11.49599513 Italy_Lazio
12.06600182 Turk_Romania
12.51743416 Italy_Marche
Half Karachay + Half Azerbaijani
Gedrosian: 18.02
Siberian: 5.30
Northwest_African: 0.00
Southeast_Asian: 0.93
Atlantic_Med: 6.95
North_European: 14.54
South_Asian 0.50
East_African 0.00
Southwest_Asian: 7.67
East_Asian: 4.06
Caucasian: 42.03
South_African: 0.00
Distance to: AzerKarachay
6.27291001 Karachay
7.29835598 Balkar
7.95258449 Ingush
8.24179592 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
8.34517825 Circassian
8.34561562 Ossetian
8.54223624 Azerbaijani_Turkey
8.58980209 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
8.74670224 Kumyks
9.13062429 Turk_South
9.16428939 Turk_Central_East
9.35523383 Azerbaijani
9.60511322 Turk_Anatolia
10.15993602 Azerbaijani_Iran
10.36817727 Turk_Central_West
10.60974552 Turk_Southeast
10.78663061 Turk_West_BlackSea
10.85842070 Turk_East
11.08155224 Chechen
11.16045698 Qumuq
11.38607044 Udi_Azerbaijan
11.42547154 Turk_Southwest
12.48270003 Yoruk
12.73420198 Zaza
12.79351398 Talysh_Azerbaijan
Target: AzerKarachay
Distance: 1.1707% / 1.17067622 | ADC: 0.25x
42.8 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
20.8 Kumyks
20.0 Balkar
16.0 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
0.2 Ket
0.2 Saudis
Half Circassian + Half Italian
How did they come to be?
Half Karachay + Half Azerbaijani
Gedrosian: 18.02
Siberian: 5.30
Northwest_African: 0.00
Southeast_Asian: 0.93
Atlantic_Med: 6.95
North_European: 14.54
South_Asian 0.50
East_African 0.00
Southwest_Asian: 7.67
East_Asian: 4.06
Caucasian: 42.03
South_African: 0.00
Distance to: AzerKarachay
6.27291001 Karachay
7.29835598 Balkar
7.95258449 Ingush
8.24179592 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
8.34517825 Circassian
8.34561562 Ossetian
8.54223624 Azerbaijani_Turkey
8.58980209 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
8.74670224 Kumyks
9.13062429 Turk_South
9.16428939 Turk_Central_East
9.35523383 Azerbaijani
9.60511322 Turk_Anatolia
10.15993602 Azerbaijani_Iran
10.36817727 Turk_Central_West
10.60974552 Turk_Southeast
10.78663061 Turk_West_BlackSea
10.85842070 Turk_East
11.08155224 Chechen
11.16045698 Qumuq
11.38607044 Udi_Azerbaijan
11.42547154 Turk_Southwest
12.48270003 Yoruk
12.73420198 Zaza
12.79351398 Talysh_Azerbaijan
Target: AzerKarachay
Distance: 1.1707% / 1.17067622 | ADC: 0.25x
42.8 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
20.8 Kumyks
20.0 Balkar
16.0 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
0.2 Ket
0.2 Saudis
Interesting. 10% Mongoloid. You should highlight the Mongoloid score in red if you post Turkics :D
RatCat
08-29-2020, 11:01 AM
How did they come to be?
I dont know. I matched with him on gedmatch.
Bender1999
08-29-2020, 11:02 AM
Half Karachay + Half Azerbaijani
Gedrosian: 18.02
Siberian: 5.30
Northwest_African: 0.00
Southeast_Asian: 0.93
Atlantic_Med: 6.95
North_European: 14.54
South_Asian 0.50
East_African 0.00
Southwest_Asian: 7.67
East_Asian: 4.06
Caucasian: 42.03
South_African: 0.00
Distance to: AzerKarachay
6.27291001 Karachay
7.29835598 Balkar
7.95258449 Ingush
8.24179592 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
8.34517825 Circassian
8.34561562 Ossetian
8.54223624 Azerbaijani_Turkey
8.58980209 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
8.74670224 Kumyks
9.13062429 Turk_South
9.16428939 Turk_Central_East
9.35523383 Azerbaijani
9.60511322 Turk_Anatolia
10.15993602 Azerbaijani_Iran
10.36817727 Turk_Central_West
10.60974552 Turk_Southeast
10.78663061 Turk_West_BlackSea
10.85842070 Turk_East
11.08155224 Chechen
11.16045698 Qumuq
11.38607044 Udi_Azerbaijan
11.42547154 Turk_Southwest
12.48270003 Yoruk
12.73420198 Zaza
12.79351398 Talysh_Azerbaijan
Target: AzerKarachay
Distance: 1.1707% / 1.17067622 | ADC: 0.25x
42.8 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
20.8 Kumyks
20.0 Balkar
16.0 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
0.2 Ket
0.2 Saudis
Very interesting, hopefully we see here more Caucasian Turkic results.
Very interesting, hopefully we see here more Caucasian Turkic results.
Hmm, have I posted not enough? Circassians and North Ossetians are often hard to tell from Karachay-Balkars, at least on these calculators. Kumyks as the rest of Dagestanis are very scarce on Gedmatch.
I dont know. I matched with him on gedmatch.
His Italian side must be very Northern. Because Southern Italians are barely 13-15% North European on average. However his Atlantic Med is also very high. Circassians are barely 5% on average.
RatCat
08-29-2020, 11:28 AM
His Italian side must be very Northern. Because Southern Italians are barely 13-15% North European on average. However his Atlantic Med is also very high. Circassians are barely 5% on average.
Yes probably, gedmatch guessed him as half northern italian too.
Bender1999
08-29-2020, 11:32 AM
Hmm, have I posted not enough? Circassians and North Ossetians are often hard to tell from Karachay-Balkars, at least on these calculators. Kumyks as the rest of Dagestanis are very scarce on Gedmatch.
Yes I know but ethnic Turkics would be nice to see. Also Circissians are sometimes nearly none or on the other hand up to 10% east eurasian influenced. It seems that some Caucasians have east eurasian and some not, but Caucasian Turkics do allways have? I mean i dont know where the Azerbaijani side comes from, most probably either from Daghestan, that would mean the Karachay side is nearly 20% mongoloid, or from Azerbaijan and there is everything possible, from 0-over 15%, depending on from where you come or which subgroup do you belong.
Yes I know but ethnic Turkics would be nice to see. Also Circissians are sometimes nearly none or on the other hand up to 10% east eurasian influenced. It seems that some Caucasians have east eurasian and some not, but Caucasian Turkics do allways have? I mean i dont know where the Azerbaijani side comes from, most probably either from Daghestan, that would mean the Karachay side is nearly 20% mongoloid, or from Azerbaijan and there is everything possible, from 0-over 15%, depending on from where you come or which subgroup do you belong.
I'm sure I posted ethnic Turkics too. Over 10% is rare among them, only if they have recent Nogai ancestry. Those are small groups living on a small territory (Karachay-Balkars, etc.). They aren't as heterogeneous as Anatolian Turks. Besides there is a lot of intermarriage between Circassians/Kabardins and Karachay-Balkars. Almost the same culture.
I'm sure I posted ethnic Turkics too. Over 10% is rare among them, only if they have recent Nogai ancestry. Those are small groups living on a small territory (Karachay-Balkars, etc.). They aren't as heterogeneous as Anatolian Turks. Besides there is a lot of intermarriage between Circassians/Kabardins and Karachay-Balkars. Almost the same culture.
Where does their high percentage of R1a-z93 comes from?
Where does their high percentage of R1a-z93 comes from?
I don't know. I think Balkars have the highest. Scythian-Sarmatians probably. Oddly enough Ossetians barely have any.
Interesting find. Iranian, presumably from Shiraz. I don't know what the ethnic makeup of the region is but his results look a bit strange? Possibly damaged dna.
Gedrosia 22.97 Pct
Siberian 0.20 Pct
Northwest_African -
Southeast_Asian 0.61 Pct
Atlantic_Med 7.39 Pct
North_European 11.64 Pct
South_Asian 5.28 Pct
East_African 0.32 Pct
Southwest_Asian 12.42 Pct
East_Asian 2.16 Pct
Caucasus 36.49 Pct
Sub_Saharan 0.53 Pct
5.66013251 Azerbaijani
5.90033897 Azerbaijani_Iran
7.06385164 Kurd_Kurmanji
7.31299528 Azerbaijani_Turkey
7.39908778 Kurd_Sorani
7.92219035 Iranian_Fars
8.04357508 Talysh_Azerbaijan
8.26445400 Zaza
8.27053203 Iran_Khorasan
8.40800809 Turk_Southeast
8.61261865 Turkmen_Iraq
9.44073620 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
9.64554301 Iranian
10.02115762 Lur_Iran
10.53056979 Kurd_KAZ
11.30428237 Turk_South
11.30551635 Turk_Central_East
11.48785881 Udi_Azerbaijan
11.86711844 Iran_Mazandaran
12.28418902 Turk_Anatolia
12.33691209 Turk_Central_West
12.56476024 Turk_East
12.90041085 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
13.63829535 Turkmen_Iran
13.86193709 Turk_West_BlackSea
Target: X
Distance: 1.9632% / 1.96323184 | ADC: 0.25x
42.2 Kurd_Sorani
19.6 Azerbaijani
13.6 Iran_Khorasan
12.2 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
6.0 Balkan_Gypsy
4.8 Tabasaran
1.6 Lithuanian
Interesting find. Iranian, presumably from Shiraz. I don't know what the ethnic makeup of the region is but his results look a bit strange? Possibly damaged dna.
Gedrosia 22.97 Pct
Siberian 0.20 Pct
Northwest_African -
Southeast_Asian 0.61 Pct
Atlantic_Med 7.39 Pct
North_European 11.64 Pct
South_Asian 5.28 Pct
East_African 0.32 Pct
Southwest_Asian 12.42 Pct
East_Asian 2.16 Pct
Caucasus 36.49 Pct
Sub_Saharan 0.53 Pct
5.66013251 Azerbaijani
5.90033897 Azerbaijani_Iran
7.06385164 Kurd_Kurmanji
7.31299528 Azerbaijani_Turkey
7.39908778 Kurd_Sorani
7.92219035 Iranian_Fars
8.04357508 Talysh_Azerbaijan
8.26445400 Zaza
8.27053203 Iran_Khorasan
8.40800809 Turk_Southeast
8.61261865 Turkmen_Iraq
9.44073620 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
9.64554301 Iranian
10.02115762 Lur_Iran
10.53056979 Kurd_KAZ
11.30428237 Turk_South
11.30551635 Turk_Central_East
11.48785881 Udi_Azerbaijan
11.86711844 Iran_Mazandaran
12.28418902 Turk_Anatolia
12.33691209 Turk_Central_West
12.56476024 Turk_East
12.90041085 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
13.63829535 Turkmen_Iran
13.86193709 Turk_West_BlackSea
Target: X
Distance: 1.9632% / 1.96323184 | ADC: 0.25x
42.2 Kurd_Sorani
19.6 Azerbaijani
13.6 Iran_Khorasan
12.2 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
6.0 Balkan_Gypsy
4.8 Tabasaran
1.6 Lithuanian
Looks normal. Probably has some tork ancestry (very common all over Iran). But certainly not the average for Shiraz, as you can see by the distances.
Looks normal. Probably has some tork ancestry (very common all over Iran). But certainly not the average for Shiraz, as you can see by the distances.
I'm thinking he has low Gedrosia for a Persian but low East Asian and low Caucasus to be Azeri shifted.
I'm thinking he has low Gedrosia for a Persian but low East Asian and low Caucasus to be Azeri shifted.
Maybe ask the person, idk. There were also Turkish-tribes in South of Iran who are mostly completely assimilated by now (except Qashqai). He has 3% East Eurasian could be 1/4 Azeri too or half. There are also full Azeris who are only around 36% Caucasus. A large percentage of Azerbaijanis doesn't have anything to do with Transcaucasus region. A common misconception.
Kurdish ancestry could be possible too.
Lots of possibilites.
Bender1999
08-29-2020, 12:19 PM
I'm thinking he has low Gedrosia for a Persian but low East Asian and low Caucasus to be Azeri shifted.
Probably Anatolian ancestry, a substantial port if Azerbaijanis/ tribes in Iran are descending from Anatolian Turks. Probably the reason why the person is clustering with Kurds/Zazas: Big Iranian + visible Anatolian(Turk) influence.
Atlantic_Med 7.39 Pct
North_European 11.64 Pct
It's a lot for Iran but overall doesn't look damaged to me at all.
By the way, it would interesting to find some people from Fereydoonshahr (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fereydunshahr_County). It's the place where Iranian Georgians live. They are completely Islamicized of course and probably mixed by now but still at least half Georgians half Persians must be common.
Christian Palestinian from Bethlehem
I suppose the Levant has remained nearly untouched by updates.
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 42.88
2 Southwest_Asian 25.56
3 Atlantic_Med 15.27
4 Gedrosia 10.25
5 Northwest_African 2.69
6 East_African 1.66
7 North_European 1.14
8 South_Asian 0.45
9 Sub_Saharan 0.09
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Lebanese (Behar) 5.29
2 Syrians (Behar) 6.48
3 Druze (HGDP) 7
4 Jordanians (Behar) 8.16
5 Palestinian (HGDP) 9.58
6 Iraq_Jews (Behar) 9.82
7 Samaritians (Behar) 11.25
8 Cypriots (Behar) 11.9
9 Iranian_Jews (Behar) 13.04
10 Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) 14.12
11 Assyrian (Dodecad) 14.13
12 Georgia_Jews (Behar) 14.54
13 Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) 14.88
14 Sephardic_Jews (Behar) 15.99
15 Turkish (Dodecad) 17.9
16 Armenian (Dodecad) 17.93
17 Morocco_Jews (Behar) 17.94
18 Turks (Behar) 18.21
19 Armenians_15 (Yunusbayev) 18.85
20 Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) 20.38
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 66.7% Syrians (Behar) + 33.3% Cypriots (Behar) @ 3
2 52.6% Syrians (Behar) + 47.4% Druze (HGDP) @ 3.51
3 60.9% Jordanians (Behar) + 39.1% Cypriots (Behar) @ 3.75
4 55.6% Druze (HGDP) + 44.4% Jordanians (Behar) @ 4.26
5 56.5% Palestinian (HGDP) + 43.5% Cypriots (Behar) @ 4.34
6 64.9% Lebanese (Behar) + 35.1% Druze (HGDP) @ 4.4
7 78.7% Lebanese (Behar) + 21.3% Samaritians (Behar) @ 4.49
8 66.7% Iraq_Jews (Behar) + 33.3% Morocco_Jews (Behar) @ 4.6
9 81.1% Lebanese (Behar) + 18.9% Cypriots (Behar) @ 4.63
10 61.6% Druze (HGDP) + 38.4% Palestinian (HGDP) @ 4.66
11 96.2% Lebanese (Behar) + 3.8% Sardinian (HGDP) @ 4.77
12 77.9% Syrians (Behar) + 22.1% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) @ 4.83
13 66.6% Cypriots (Behar) + 33.4% Bedouin (HGDP) @ 4.94
14 64.2% Iraq_Jews (Behar) + 35.8% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) @ 4.95
15 69.4% Lebanese (Behar) + 30.6% Syrians (Behar) @ 4.96
16 81.5% Druze (HGDP) + 18.5% Bedouin (HGDP) @ 4.99
17 84.2% Lebanese (Behar) + 15.8% Iraq_Jews (Behar) @ 5.05
18 91% Lebanese (Behar) + 9% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) @ 5.07
19 81.1% Syrians (Behar) + 18.9% Armenian (Dodecad) @ 5.09
20 84.7% Syrians (Behar) + 15.3% Armenians (Behar) @ 5.11
Eurogenes K13:
1 Samaritan 2.81
Eurogenes K15:
1 Samaritan 4.15
Turk from Aydin Province:
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/9f/Aydin_in_Turkey.svg
Gedrosian: 13.94
Siberian: 5.07
Northwest_African: 0.08
Southeast_Asian: 1.45
Atlantic_Med: 14.42
North_European: 11.89
South_Asian 1.78
East_African 0.00
Southwest_Asian: 10.46
East_Asian: 6.82
Caucasian: 33.78
South_African: 0.31
Distance to: Turk_Aydin2
2.59903828 Turk_Southwest
3.60469139 Turk_Northwest
4.32060181 Turk_West_BlackSea
5.05034652 Turk_Anatolia
5.12410968 Turk_Central_West
5.86046073 Yoruk
5.93600034 Turk_South
7.39530256 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
8.27718551 Turk_Central_East
9.39690907 Turk_Southeast
10.79013902 Crimean_Tatar_Mountain
11.23288921 Azerbaijani
11.79612648 Azerbaijani_Turkey
13.13571087 Azerbaijani_Iran
13.41991058 Crimean_Tatar_Coast
15.29336457 Greek_Crete
15.46394193 Turk_East
15.79849676 Turkmen_Iraq
16.19704294 Turkmen_Iran
16.30030368 Kurd_Kurmanji
16.76380029 Karachay
16.82151598 MD_Jewish
16.88617209 Italy_Apulia
17.03588859 Zaza
17.22959663 Iran_Khorasan
Target: Turk_Aydin2
Distance: 2.1681% / 2.16813511 | ADC: 0.5x
96.4 Turk_Southwest
2.4 Turk_Northwest
0.8 Burmanese
0.4 CHD30
Bender1999
08-29-2020, 04:34 PM
Atlantic_Med 7.39 Pct
North_European 11.64 Pct
It's a lot for Iran but overall doesn't look damaged to me at all.
By the way, it would interesting to find some people from Fereydoonshahr (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fereydunshahr_County). It's the place where Iranian Georgians live. They are completely Islamicized of course and probably mixed by now but still at least half Georgians half Persians must be common.
Good point, i once read that Safevids settled a lot of Caucasians in Persia (Armenians/Georgians/Circissians) but i dont know whether they left genetic traces?
Good point, i once read that Safevids settled a lot of Caucasians in Persia (Armenians/Georgians/Circissians) but i dont know whether they left genetic traces?
They don't differ so much from Iranians genetically, in that regard a settlement from 16/17th century won't leave any traces. Settlements from Qajar and Pahlavi periods is a different story.
A few Georgians in Fereydoonshahr are said to remain to this day. You can even find signs in Georgian in that city.
Good point, i once read that Safevids settled a lot of Caucasians in Persia (Armenians/Georgians/Circissians) but i dont know whether they left genetic traces?
They don't differ so much from Iranians genetically, in that regard a settlement from 16th century won't leave any traces.
Turk from Kirsehir + Kahranmaras:
Gedrosian: 17.36
Siberian: 5.16
Northwest_African: 1.57
Southeast_Asian: 1.68
Atlantic_Med: 12.38
North_European: 9.61
South_Asian 2.45
East_African 0.26
Southwest_Asian: 12.05
East_Asian: 3.35
Caucasian: 34.13
South_African: 0.00
Distance to: TurkKirsehirKahranmaras
4.75650081 Turk_South
5.30797513 Turk_Anatolia
5.33397600 Turk_Central_West
5.49085604 Turk_Southeast
5.92325924 Turk_Southwest
6.67808356 Turk_Central_East
6.88944120 Turk_West_BlackSea
7.13635761 Azerbaijani
7.16988842 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
7.81287399 Turk_Northwest
7.96488544 Yoruk
8.08009901 Azerbaijani_Turkey
8.54712232 Azerbaijani_Iran
10.88804390 Turkmen_Iraq
11.27197853 Kurd_Kurmanji
12.45101602 Kurd_Sorani
12.46980754 Zaza
12.72876663 Turk_East
13.47755171 Iran_Khorasan
13.91181512 Talysh_Azerbaijan
14.20567492 Turkmen_Iran
14.20784994 Iranian_Fars
14.43171507 Udi_Azerbaijan
14.62785357 Crimean_Tatar_Mountain
15.00325298 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
Target: TurkKirsehirKahranmaras
Distance: 1.3764% / 1.37637339 | ADC: 0.25x
54.0 Turk_Southeast
36.6 Turk_Southwest
2.4 Brahui
2.4 Turk_Northwest
1.2 Canarias
1.0 Cambodians
1.0 Parsi_India
Turk from Konya:
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/61/Konya_in_Turkey.svg/300px-Konya_in_Turkey.svg.png
Gedrosian: 15.01
Siberian: 2.85
Northwest_African: 1.84
Southeast_Asian: 1.58
Atlantic_Med: 14.11
North_European: 8.23
South_Asian 2.20
East_African 1.81
Southwest_Asian: 12.31
East_Asian: 2.60
Caucasian: 37.46
South_African: 0.00
Distance to: TurkKonya
4.34470943 Turk_Central_West
4.57029540 Turk_Central_East
4.99919994 Turk_Anatolia
5.19537294 Turk_Southeast
5.46076002 Turk_South
6.43725097 Turk_West_BlackSea
6.45893954 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
7.18584720 Turk_Southwest
8.20436469 Azerbaijani
8.24502274 Azerbaijani_Turkey
9.49881572 Azerbaijani_Iran
9.50241022 Turk_Northwest
9.97792063 Turk_East
10.72457925 Yoruk
10.74279759 Turkmen_Iraq
11.61136082 Kurd_Kurmanji
11.79810578 Nusayri_Turkey
12.08735289 Zaza
12.54521423 Udi_Azerbaijan
12.89141575 Kurd_Sorani
13.05718193 Greek_Cappadocia
13.40820644 Greek_Crete
14.20455913 Armenian_East
14.20765287 Uzbekistan_Jews
14.26227191 Talysh_Azerbaijan
Target: TurkKonya
Distance: 1.1855% / 1.18545836 | ADC: 0.25x
47.8 Turk_Central_East
34.4 Turk_Southeast
8.2 Morocco_Jews
3.8 Italy_Calabria
1.8 Turk_Central_West
1.4 Balkan_Gypsy
1.0 Cambodians
1.0 Somali
0.6 Sardinian
RatCat
08-30-2020, 01:03 PM
Trabzon Turk (Relative of mine from maternal side)
Gedrosia 13.54 Pct
Siberian -
Northwest_African -
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 9.95 Pct
North_European 4.06 Pct
South_Asian 0.78 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 12.63 Pct
East_Asian -
Caucasus 59.04 Pct
Sub_Saharan -
Distance to:
4.60002174 Hemshin
4.89707055 Laz
5.02902575 Greek_Pontus
5.56700997 Turk_East_Black_Sea
7.66118137 Georgian_Adjara
8.43453615 Georgian_Turkey
10.03840625 Turk_Ahiska
10.21098918 Armenian_East
10.21349597 Georgian_Imereti
10.25349696 Georgia_Jews
10.63910711 Azerbaijan_Jews
11.05616118 Armenian_West
12.00030416 Georgian_Gurian
12.26684148 Georgian_Mingrelian
14.57284804 Assyrian
14.62874567 Abkhazian
14.69902378 Turk_East
14.80086484 Greek_Cappadocia
14.99957333 Georgian_Svan
15.74016201 Druze
15.77645714 Udi_Azerbaijan
15.82803209 Iranian_Jews
16.53095883 Uzbekistan_Jews
17.21900113 Cypriots
17.41460881 Iraq_Jews
Trabzon Turk (Relative of mine from maternal side)
Gedrosia 13.54 Pct
Siberian -
Northwest_African -
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 9.95 Pct
North_European 4.06 Pct
South_Asian 0.78 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 12.63 Pct
East_Asian -
Caucasus 59.04 Pct
Sub_Saharan -
Distance to:
4.60002174 Hemshin
4.89707055 Laz
5.02902575 Greek_Pontus
5.56700997 Turk_East_Black_Sea
7.66118137 Georgian_Adjara
8.43453615 Georgian_Turkey
10.03840625 Turk_Ahiska
10.21098918 Armenian_East
10.21349597 Georgian_Imereti
10.25349696 Georgia_Jews
10.63910711 Azerbaijan_Jews
11.05616118 Armenian_West
12.00030416 Georgian_Gurian
12.26684148 Georgian_Mingrelian
14.57284804 Assyrian
14.62874567 Abkhazian
14.69902378 Turk_East
14.80086484 Greek_Cappadocia
14.99957333 Georgian_Svan
15.74016201 Druze
15.77645714 Udi_Azerbaijan
15.82803209 Iranian_Jews
16.53095883 Uzbekistan_Jews
17.21900113 Cypriots
17.41460881 Iraq_Jews
If he can be Turkish, you can be too because you guys both have completely assimilated North-West Asian background.
Bunalim's father's results (he is half Trabzonian, half white New Zealander)
https://i.imgur.com/gRnZ8Oq.png
Armenians (from Armenia)
Gedrosia 18.79 Pct
Siberian 0.55 Pct
Northwest_African -
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 11.38 Pct
North_European 6.83 Pct
South_Asian 0.32 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 14.64 Pct
East_Asian -
Caucasus 47.45 Pct
Sub_Saharan -
Distance to: Armen
3.18636156 Armenian_East
3.93193337 Turk_East
4.76672844 Armenian_West
4.80170803 Udi_Azerbaijan
6.56143277 Uzbekistan_Jews
7.96421371 Assyrian
8.31822697 Zaza
8.38498658 Georgia_Jews
8.57417051 Azerbaijan_Jews
8.62446520 Turk_Ahiska
Target: Armen
Distance: 1.0407% / 1.04070380 | ADC: 0.25x
58.2 Armenian_East
19.2 Uzbekistan_Jews
18.4 Udi_Azerbaijan
2.6 Armenian_West
1.6 Pais_Vasco
Target: Armen
Distance: 1.6721% / 1.67206616 | ADC: 0.5x
40.8 Armenian_East
19.4 Turk_East
17.8 Udi_Azerbaijan
14.2 Armenian_West
7.8 Uzbekistan_Jews
* * *
Gedrosia 17.34 Pct
Siberian 0.55 Pct
Northwest_African 0.37 Pct
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 12.47 Pct
North_European 5.45 Pct
South_Asian 0.05 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 13.52 Pct
East_Asian -
Caucasus 50.26 Pct
Sub_Saharan -
Distance to: Artur
1.91890594 Armenian_East
3.46992795 Armenian_West
5.49248578 Greek_Pontus
5.54551170 Turk_East_Black_Sea
5.95298245 Turk_East
7.44468267 Udi_Azerbaijan
7.54578690 Azerbaijan_Jews
7.58592776 Hemshin
7.65693803 Turk_Ahiska
7.83827149 Georgia_Jews
Target: Artur
Distance: 0.8190% / 0.81898515 | ADC: 0.25x
72.6 Armenian_East
15.2 Armenian_West
6.4 Greek_Pontus
4.2 Georgian_Adjara
1.6 Sardinian
Target: Artur
Distance: 1.3388% / 1.33877439 | ADC: 0.5x
75.6 Armenian_East
14.2 Armenian_West
6.2 Greek_Pontus
4.0 Greek_Cappadocia
RatCat
08-30-2020, 02:19 PM
If he can be Turkish, you can be too because you guys both have completely assimilated North-West Asian background.
Bunalim's father's results (he is half Trabzonian, half white New Zealander)
It is really interesting how trabzon turks got completely assimilated without any turkic admixture. We have a government site which you can check your whole family tree since 1800s and all of my maternal side since 1815 are from the same village and I dont think it was really different before 1815. So it's really interesting how they have changed their identity, religion, language while marrying with each other and not intermarrying with turks. I really wonder how is that assimilation process happened. I couldn't find good information about that neither.
It is really interesting how trabzon turks got completely assimilated without any turkic admixture. We have a government site which you can check your whole family tree since 1800s and all of my maternal side since 1815 are from the same village and I dont think it was really different before 1815. So it's really interesting how they have changed their identity, religion, language while marrying with each other and not intermarrying with turks. I really wonder how is that assimilation process happened. I couldn't find good information about that neither.
It's interesting, yes. As an Orthodox Christian, I personally consider them ex-Orthodox (apostate). Their Islamization did not take place until after the 1400s or even the 1500s. Prior to that they had been Christian for nearly 1,000 years.
Genetically they appear to be a mix of Laz, Pontic Greek and Armenian.
Bender1999
08-30-2020, 02:30 PM
It is really interesting how trabzon turks got completely assimilated without any turkic admixture. We have a government site which you can check your whole family tree since 1800s and all of my maternal side since 1815 are from the same village and I dont think it was really different before 1815. So it's really interesting how they have changed their identity, religion, language while marrying with each other and not intermarrying with turks. I really wonder how is that assimilation process happened. I couldn't find good information about that neither.
Idk about you but we have here a lot of eastern blacksea turks(Giresun/Trabzon/Rize) and all of them describe themselves as Laz. I once spoke with Trabzonlu who told me that he has Pontus Greek ancestry, without reluctance which is absolutely right in my opinion. Turks also know that this area is full of Lazes but they don’t care about. So i dont understand why that is surprising for people that they show different results, they are still a part of Turkish people.
RatCat
08-30-2020, 02:44 PM
Idk about you but we have here a lot of eastern blacksea turks(Giresun/Trabzon/Rize) and all of them describe themselves as Laz. I once spoke with Trabzonlu who told me that he has Pontus Greek ancestry, without reluctance which is absolutely right in my opinion. Turks also know that this area is full of Lazes but they don’t care about. So i dont understand why that is surprising for people that they show different results, they are still a part of Turkish people.
Yes, i have some pontic greek ancestors too that i didnt know till i have checked that government site and my maternal side still identfy as Turkish despite having some pontic greek ancestry and dna results. That things didnt change anything. And people here call eastern blacksea people as laz too but i thing they dont say it seriously, more like a joking way. It's just interesting to me how can a population change their indentity, language, religion without intermarrying back in the old days. Kurds still identify as kurds and laz people still identify as laz and most of them can still talk their language but trabzon turks' case is really interesting to me.
What about the Meskhetians? See the first page of the thread. User Fiko0 is a Meskhetian from NE Turkey and he is virtually zero EE too.
Bender1999
08-30-2020, 03:09 PM
Yes, i have some pontic greek ancestors too that i didnt know till i have checked that government site and my maternal side still identfy as Turkish despite having some pontic greek ancestry and dna results. That things didnt change anything. And people here call eastern blacksea people as laz too but i thing they dont say it seriously, more like a joking way. It's just interesting to me how can a population change their indentity, language, religion without intermarrying back in the old days. Kurds still identify as kurds and laz people still identify as laz and most of them can still talk their language but trabzon turks' case is really interesting to me.
No here they are serious about that. The people in Trabzon, regardless of beeing Laz, Turk or Pontic Greek, are very homogeneous genetically. In western parts are some villages with up to 8% mongoloid but generally they are pure Caucasians.
RatCat
08-30-2020, 03:17 PM
No here they are serious about that. The people in Trabzon, regardless of beeing Laz, Turk or Pontic Greek, are very homogeneous genetically. In western parts are some villages with up to 8% mongoloid but generally they are pure Caucasians.
Yes trabzon is very homogenous genetically but if you look at populations there are hemsheni, laz, pontic greeks, turks, meskhetians etc. All of them are genetically native trabzonians but they identify as different groups. That's interesting.
Bender1999
08-30-2020, 03:17 PM
What about the Meskhetians? See the first page of the thread. User Fiko0 is a Meskhetian from NE Turkey and he is virtually zero EE too.
To be honest, i don’t know much about them just that they were deported to central asia. Maybe during Ottoman/Safevid empire a group of Caucasians became Turkish. The question is why justva specific group and not hole caucasus. At least, there are not Ahiska(turkish for meskhetian) Turks which were mentioned in Ottoman archives.
RatCat
08-30-2020, 03:18 PM
What about the Meskhetians? See the first page of the thread. User Fiko0 is a Meskhetian from NE Turkey and he is virtually zero EE too.
they are interesting too. I think they are native to georgia.
Bender1999
08-30-2020, 03:23 PM
Yes trabzon is very homogenous genetically but if you look at populations there are hemsheni, laz, pontic greeks, turks, meskhetians etc. All of them are genetically native trabzonians but they identify as different groups. That's interesting.
I think because there werent much migration. Look to Turks, that is very opposite, they are heterogenous. I think that is probably the main reason for their homogenous genetics of NE-Turkey. Lets forget the cities with high muhacir population, fir example when i research about the origin of the place names in Turkey, they mention different tribes of different origins. Some migrated from east to west, some intermarried with other ethnicities etc. I think this movements and mobility lacks in Trabzon.
RatCat
08-30-2020, 03:34 PM
I think because there werent much migration. Look to Turks, that is very opposite, they are heterogenous. I think that is probably the main reason for their homogenous genetics of NE-Turkey. Lets forget the cities with high muhacir population, fir example when i research about the origin of the place names in Turkey, they mention different tribes of different origins. Some migrated from east to west, some intermarried with other ethnicities etc. I think this movements and mobility lacks in Trabzon.
Yes its probably about lack of migrations to that region. Trabzon is the last place that conquered by turkic groups (ottomans, karaman, aq qoyunlu etc.)
https://istanbultravelblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/Ottoman-Empire-Map-Constantinople.jpg
This is the map of anatolia at 1453 and trabzon got conquered at 1461. I think at that time whole turkic migration to anatolia was over and after 1461 they didnt migrate to trabzon. But how trabzon turks got assimilated and learned the language. Like i said all of my maternal side since 1815 are from the same village, who came to that village and teach them that language, religion etc. I think sardinians are like that too, they dont have indo-european admixture but they speak an indo european language.
I think sardinians are like that too, they dont have indo-european admixture but they speak an indo european language.
Yeah, but their cultural assimilation started over 2,000 years ago. Sardinian, albeit a Romance language, is drastically different from Italian and its dialects.
Bender1999
08-30-2020, 03:43 PM
Yes its probably about lack of migrations to that region. Trabzon is the last place that conquered by turkic groups (ottomans, karaman, aq qoyunlu etc.)
https://istanbultravelblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/Ottoman-Empire-Map-Constantinople.jpg
This is the map of anatolia at 1453 and trabzon got conquered at 1461. I think at that time whole turkic migration to anatolia was over and after 1461 they didnt migrate to trabzon. But how trabzon turks got assimilated and learned the language. Like i said all of my maternal side since 1815 are from the same village, who came to that village and teach them that language, religion etc. I think sardinians are like that too, they dont have indo-european admixture but they speak an indo european language.
Turkic migration was not over, until to 19th century Turkmen tribes migrated, just an example: last eastern anatolian turkmens(nomads) migrated from Erzurum(sorry, nit Erzincan)to Kirikkale. At this time, the overwhelming majority of nomads were settled. We know that many eastern anatolian tribes fled between 15-17 th century to Iran, and we know there are tribes who came in 18th century to Turkey from Iran. Still in their folk poetry they say „we are descending from Nader Shah“.
Turkic migration was not over, until to 19th century Turkmen tribes migrated, just an example: last eastern anatolian turkmens(nomads) migrated from Erzurum(sorry, nit Erzincan)to Kirikkale. At this time, the overwhelming majority of nomads were settled. We know that many eastern anatolian tribes fled between 15-17 th century to Iran, and we know there are tribes who came in 18th century to Turkey from Iran. Still in their folk poetry they say „we are descending from Nader Shah“.
Hey Bender, how common are settlements from Iran (Khorasan, Güney Azerbaycan) in Central Anatolia. I've now came across multiple random villages where it's said they came around 18th century from Iran.
I also know from some Azerbaijani tribes that got back into Anatolia.
Turk from Manisa:
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7e/Manisa_in_Turkey.svg/300px-Manisa_in_Turkey.svg.png
Gedrosian: 16.10
Siberian: 7.90
Northwest_African: 0.00
Southeast_Asian: 1.81
Atlantic_Med: 11.29
North_European: 10.62
South_Asian 1.43
East_African 0.51
Southwest_Asian: 11.47
East_Asian: 5.32
Caucasian: 33.55
South_African: 0.00
Distance to: Turk_Manisa2
4.93621312 Turk_Southwest
5.06771152 Turk_South
5.76314150 Turk_Anatolia
5.92339430 Yoruk
6.34626662 Turk_Central_West
6.40549764 Turk_Northwest
7.01720030 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
7.02495552 Turk_West_BlackSea
8.03092149 Turk_Southeast
8.24767846 Turk_Central_East
9.40621071 Azerbaijani
10.11135006 Azerbaijani_Turkey
10.89760983 Azerbaijani_Iran
13.45080667 Turkmen_Iran
13.75092361 Turkmen_Iraq
13.96832488 Crimean_Tatar_Mountain
14.15050176 Kurd_Kurmanji
14.79165305 Iran_Khorasan
14.80679911 Turk_East
15.15194707 Zaza
15.36876052 Kurd_Sorani
15.92629273 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
15.94634441 Turkmens
16.23701943 Talysh_Azerbaijan
16.65181071 Karachay
Target: Turk_Manisa2
Distance: 1.7019% / 1.70192369 | ADC: 0.25x
44.6 Turk_South
36.6 Turk_Southwest
5.6 Turk_Southeast
4.4 Turkmens
4.0 Turkmen_Uzbekistan
1.4 Ket
1.0 Saudis
Bender1999
08-30-2020, 04:27 PM
Hey Bender, how common are settlements from Iran (Khorasan, Güney Azerbaycan) in Central Anatolia. I've now came across multiple random villages where it's said they came around 18th century from Iran.
I also know from some Azerbaijani tribes that got back into Anatolia.
I know there is a Khalaj village in the hometown from my homeparents. And there is a district in Aksaray which was founded by Khalac tribes. The province Aksaray was also well known place for camel dealers from Chorasan. One of them were some Abdals in Kirsehir, the folk singers which i showed were of them. And they came „late“ to Anatolia, at the earliest 17/18th century. Afshars, the most common Central Anatolian tribe, also migrated from there. The migration from Azerbaijan mostly happened at the beginning of Turkic presence in West Asia, so i must look whether there were other movements. I think most of us came from Chorasan, that is most common. Maybe also interesting for you, many here are descendants of Bozulus Turkmens(Akkoyunlu) who lived in Eastern Anatolia/Azerbaijan. Another reason why E-Turkey, apart from Azerbaijani/Turkmen/Qarakalpak settlements are low Turkic influenced.
Edit: the konya result, the second village is probably from chorasan turkmens founded. You can see, it is very common in Central Anatolia, but i am surprised why the person had low mongoloid. Ankara and the borderlands of Ankara/Konya have many Chorasan Turkmens, it would be cool find someone which is not mixed.
Iranian
photo (https://i1.sndcdn.com/avatars-000613625451-c7nc1z-t500x500.jpg)
H-Z5870
J1b3
Gedrosia 26.46 Pct
Siberian 1.75 Pct
Northwest_African 0.26 Pct
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 6.38 Pct
North_European 5.93 Pct
South_Asian 4.62 Pct
East_African 0.98 Pct
Southwest_Asian 12.84 Pct
East_Asian 2.29 Pct
Caucasus 38.49 Pct
Sub_Saharan -
Distance to: Nima
3.62845697 Lur_Iran
3.88942155 Iranian
4.41522366 Talysh_Azerbaijan
4.76652914 Kurd_Sorani
4.79510167 Iranian_Fars
4.79767652 Kurd_Kurmanji
5.93040471 Azerbaijani_Iran
5.99615710 Zaza
6.06898674 Kurd_KAZ
6.93491889 Turkmen_Iraq
Target: Nima
Distance: 1.2068% / 1.20680425 | ADC: 0.5x
52.0 Lur_Iran
19.8 Talysh_Azerbaijan
14.8 Iran_Khorasan
9.2 Azerbaijani_Iran
4.2 Iranian_Fars
Target: Nima
Distance: 0.8780% / 0.87798462 | ADC: 0.25x
53.2 Lur_Iran
22.8 Talysh_Azerbaijan
18.4 Iran_Khorasan
5.2 Azerbaijani
0.4 JPT30
RatCat
09-01-2020, 12:49 PM
More people from Trabzon
They say they are Trabzon Turks but their closest populations are Laz. Probably they are from east side of Trabzon.
Person 1:
Gedrosia 14.40 Pct
Siberian -
Northwest_African 0.33 Pct
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 8.37 Pct
North_European 2.87 Pct
South_Asian -
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 12.59 Pct
East_Asian -
Caucasus 61.45 Pct
Sub_Saharan -
Population
5.96489732 Laz
6.02834140 Hemshin
7.36005435 Georgian_Adjara
7.78183783 Greek_Pontus
7.99574262 Georgian_Turkey
8.16931454 Turk_East_Black_Sea
9.81618052 Georgian_Imereti
11.49686479 Turk_Ahiska
11.55009524 Georgia_Jews
11.66467745 Georgian_Mingrelian
11.76304807 Azerbaijan_Jews
11.99750807 Georgian_Gurian
12.66655439 Armenian_East
13.32542682 Armenian_West
14.79494846 Georgian_Svan
15.23934054 Abkhazian
16.04611479 Assyrian
16.68452277 Iranian_Jews
17.14830604 Turk_East
17.66370290 Druze
17.82363880 Udi_Azerbaijan
17.89117939 Greek_Cappadocia
18.24706278 Uzbekistan_Jews
18.67847156 Iraq_Jews
19.99818242 Cypriots
Person 2:
Gedrosia 16.07 Pct
Siberian -
Northwest_African -
Southeast_Asian 0.06 Pct
Atlantic_Med 11.55 Pct
North_European 4.29 Pct
South_Asian 0.21 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 9.89 Pct
East_Asian 0.21 Pct
Caucasus 57.72 Pct
Sub_Saharan -
Population
2.60965515 Laz
2.96030404 Hemshin
4.06354525 Turk_East_Black_Sea
4.27388582 Greek_Pontus
5.42839755 Georgian_Adjara
6.57332488 Georgian_Turkey
7.88186526 Turk_Ahiska
8.72161109 Georgian_Imereti
9.03904309 Armenian_East
10.40757897 Armenian_West
10.67928368 Georgian_Gurian
10.94156296 Azerbaijan_Jews
11.03459107 Georgian_Mingrelian
11.39305929 Georgia_Jews
12.92876638 Abkhazian
13.04143780 Turk_East
13.49593272 Georgian_Svan
13.80111590 Udi_Azerbaijan
13.99445605 Greek_Cappadocia
14.60543392 Assyrian
16.16866723 Uzbekistan_Jews
16.79082488 Iranian_Jews
17.76003660 Druze
17.93433021 Cypriots
18.56646708 Zaza
Are there any decent photos of people like that? Do they look like Armenians or Georgians? Or perhaps neither?
Also, don't forget to click Single on Vahaduo.
RatCat
09-01-2020, 01:15 PM
Are there any decent photos of people like that? Do they look like Armenians or Georgians? Or perhaps neither?
Also, don't forget to click Single on Vahaduo.
https://i.imgur.com/51p0rvk.png
I'd say these two can pass as typical Trabzonians.
Bender1999
09-01-2020, 01:16 PM
Are there any decent photos of people like that? Do they look like Armenians or Georgians? Or perhaps neither?
They resemble more to Georgians than to Armenians, although ther is not that big difference. Sometimes you can see that someone is frome black sea area, sometimes there is no difference to Turks. You know hoe Erdogan looks, he is from Rize and Georgian descendant, he has a typical east black sea look.
Bender1999
09-01-2020, 01:18 PM
More people from Trabzon
They say they are Trabzon Turks but their closest populations are Laz. Probably they are from east side of Trabzon.
Person 1:
Gedrosia 14.40 Pct
Siberian -
Northwest_African 0.33 Pct
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 8.37 Pct
North_European 2.87 Pct
South_Asian -
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 12.59 Pct
East_Asian -
Caucasus 61.45 Pct
Sub_Saharan -
Population
5.96489732 Laz
6.02834140 Hemshin
7.36005435 Georgian_Adjara
7.78183783 Greek_Pontus
7.99574262 Georgian_Turkey
8.16931454 Turk_East_Black_Sea
9.81618052 Georgian_Imereti
11.49686479 Turk_Ahiska
11.55009524 Georgia_Jews
11.66467745 Georgian_Mingrelian
11.76304807 Azerbaijan_Jews
11.99750807 Georgian_Gurian
12.66655439 Armenian_East
13.32542682 Armenian_West
14.79494846 Georgian_Svan
15.23934054 Abkhazian
16.04611479 Assyrian
16.68452277 Iranian_Jews
17.14830604 Turk_East
17.66370290 Druze
17.82363880 Udi_Azerbaijan
17.89117939 Greek_Cappadocia
18.24706278 Uzbekistan_Jews
18.67847156 Iraq_Jews
19.99818242 Cypriots
Person 2:
Gedrosia 16.07 Pct
Siberian -
Northwest_African -
Southeast_Asian 0.06 Pct
Atlantic_Med 11.55 Pct
North_European 4.29 Pct
South_Asian 0.21 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 9.89 Pct
East_Asian 0.21 Pct
Caucasus 57.72 Pct
Sub_Saharan -
Population
2.60965515 Laz
2.96030404 Hemshin
4.06354525 Turk_East_Black_Sea
4.27388582 Greek_Pontus
5.42839755 Georgian_Adjara
6.57332488 Georgian_Turkey
7.88186526 Turk_Ahiska
8.72161109 Georgian_Imereti
9.03904309 Armenian_East
10.40757897 Armenian_West
10.67928368 Georgian_Gurian
10.94156296 Azerbaijan_Jews
11.03459107 Georgian_Mingrelian
11.39305929 Georgia_Jews
12.92876638 Abkhazian
13.04143780 Turk_East
13.49593272 Georgian_Svan
13.80111590 Udi_Azerbaijan
13.99445605 Greek_Cappadocia
14.60543392 Assyrian
16.16866723 Uzbekistan_Jews
16.79082488 Iranian_Jews
17.76003660 Druze
17.93433021 Cypriots
18.56646708 Zaza
First one has the highest Caucasian that i have seen in Turkey.
They resemble more to Georgians than to Armenians, although ther is not that big difference. Sometimes you can see that someone is frome black sea area, sometimes there is no difference to Turks. You know hoe Erdogan looks, he is from Rize and Georgian descendant, he has a typical east black sea look.
Erdogan? Really? I had no idea he was one of the assimilated. I thought he looked part Turanic or something.
[IMG]https://i.imgur.com/51p0rvk.png
I'd say these two can pass as typical Trabzonians.
But that type of dress is not found in Turkey. "Cherkeska".
Bender1999
09-01-2020, 01:21 PM
Erdogan? Really? I had no idea he was one of the assimilated. I thought he looked part Turanic or something.
Another surprising information for you: his wife is an arab. (I know its off topic lol)
First one has the highest Caucasian that i have seen in Turkey.
61% is very high even in Georgia herself. See my older posts, they're 55-60% usually.
Bender1999
09-01-2020, 01:22 PM
Eddit, i was wrong, but i can bet i have seen that clothes in Turkey...
RatCat
09-01-2020, 01:23 PM
But that type of dress is not found in Turkey. "Cherkeska".
Yes, they are georgians but can pass as typical Trabzonians.
Another surprising information for you: his wife is an arab. (I know its off topic lol)
Yet he appears to be a staunch Turkish nationalist. Maybe more Islamic than ethnic-based though. I remember one of his sons looking rather white to me (far from "MENA" stereotypes).
Bender1999
09-01-2020, 01:27 PM
61% is very high even in Georgia herself. See my older posts, they're 55-60% usually.
Also nearly no foreign influence, not even 3 % North Europe. Fully, Anatolian native!
Bender1999
09-01-2020, 01:31 PM
Edit
RatCat
09-01-2020, 01:32 PM
Eddit, i was wrong, but i can bet i have seen that clothes in Turkey...
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/proxy/_7TvpmL6wJeRvbTvyVNHN0eTfY0fZbon8b1PiFCbHpxwYbzAah dw33X4xDlUS8sWXcXgX2s3QsTtDddGpYRrW1ATcKgH4GPMzah0 4qkBnNAOE7UE5yrlcSmRm2ugFgBBPOH3n0LOad8RuYo2Ci5fda k5CPBQ1W8
This is Trabzon folk costume. You cant see cherkeska in Trabzon. Kars ve çevresinde daha fazla giyiyolar o kıyafeti ordan görmüşsündür büyük ihtimal.
50% Eastanadolu 50% Azerbaijani:
Gedrosian: 20.88
Siberian: 1.45
Northwest_African: 1.23
Southeast_Asian: 2.04
Atlantic_Med: 9.04
North_European: 6.52
South_Asian 0.83
East_African 0.01
Southwest_Asian: 14.27
East_Asian: 0.00
Caucasian: 43.72
Sub-Saharan: 0.00
Distance to: A
4.35648941 Zaza
4.58055673 Udi_Azerbaijan
4.93183536 Turk_East
5.52735922 Uzbekistan_Jews
5.81749087 Kurd_Kurmanji
6.54904573 Turkmen_Iraq
6.70387202 Azerbaijani_Turkey
6.77177968 Azerbaijani_Iran
6.85897223 Talysh_Azerbaijan
7.55100656 Kurd_Sorani
7.60908010 Kurd_KAZ
7.73562538 Azerbaijani
7.90827415 Armenian_East
8.21244178 Turk_Southeast
8.77464529 Armenian_West
9.32636049 Assyrian
9.38165764 Turk_Central_East
9.70008247 Lur_Iran
10.09770766 Iranian
11.12757386 Turk_Ahiska
11.15321927 Georgia_Jews
11.20757333 Azerbaijan_Jews
11.63384717 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
11.80685394 Turk_South
12.44013666 Turk_Central_West
Target: A
Distance: 1.2714% / 1.27139919 | ADC: 0.25x
29.4 Zaza
29.2 Uzbekistan_Jews
20.0 Udi_Azerbaijan
19.6 Turk_East
0.8 Cambodians
0.6 Dai
0.2 Moroccan
0.2 Nganassan
Dr_Maul
09-01-2020, 04:38 PM
50% Eastanadolu 50% Azerbaijani:
Gedrosian: 20.88
Siberian: 1.45
Northwest_African: 1.23
Southeast_Asian: 2.04
Atlantic_Med: 9.04
North_European: 6.52
South_Asian 0.83
East_African 0.01
Southwest_Asian: 14.27
East_Asian: 0.00
Caucasian: 43.72
Sub-Saharan: 0.00
Distance to: A
4.35648941 Zaza
4.58055673 Udi_Azerbaijan
4.93183536 Turk_East
5.52735922 Uzbekistan_Jews
5.81749087 Kurd_Kurmanji
6.54904573 Turkmen_Iraq
6.70387202 Azerbaijani_Turkey
6.77177968 Azerbaijani_Iran
6.85897223 Talysh_Azerbaijan
7.55100656 Kurd_Sorani
7.60908010 Kurd_KAZ
7.73562538 Azerbaijani
7.90827415 Armenian_East
8.21244178 Turk_Southeast
8.77464529 Armenian_West
9.32636049 Assyrian
9.38165764 Turk_Central_East
9.70008247 Lur_Iran
10.09770766 Iranian
11.12757386 Turk_Ahiska
11.15321927 Georgia_Jews
11.20757333 Azerbaijan_Jews
11.63384717 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
11.80685394 Turk_South
12.44013666 Turk_Central_West
Target: A
Distance: 1.2714% / 1.27139919 | ADC: 0.25x
29.4 Zaza
29.2 Uzbekistan_Jews
20.0 Udi_Azerbaijan
19.6 Turk_East
0.8 Cambodians
0.6 Dai
0.2 Moroccan
0.2 Nganassan
She is Turanian as fuck in relation to her mongoloid
also, 2% Southeast Asia with 0 East Asia is weird
Bender1999
09-01-2020, 06:56 PM
50% Eastanadolu 50% Azerbaijani:
Gedrosian: 20.88
Siberian: 1.45
Northwest_African: 1.23
Southeast_Asian: 2.04
Atlantic_Med: 9.04
North_European: 6.52
South_Asian 0.83
East_African 0.01
Southwest_Asian: 14.27
East_Asian: 0.00
Caucasian: 43.72
Sub-Saharan: 0.00
Distance to: A
4.35648941 Zaza
4.58055673 Udi_Azerbaijan
4.93183536 Turk_East
5.52735922 Uzbekistan_Jews
5.81749087 Kurd_Kurmanji
6.54904573 Turkmen_Iraq
6.70387202 Azerbaijani_Turkey
6.77177968 Azerbaijani_Iran
6.85897223 Talysh_Azerbaijan
7.55100656 Kurd_Sorani
7.60908010 Kurd_KAZ
7.73562538 Azerbaijani
7.90827415 Armenian_East
8.21244178 Turk_Southeast
8.77464529 Armenian_West
9.32636049 Assyrian
9.38165764 Turk_Central_East
9.70008247 Lur_Iran
10.09770766 Iranian
11.12757386 Turk_Ahiska
11.15321927 Georgia_Jews
11.20757333 Azerbaijan_Jews
11.63384717 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
11.80685394 Turk_South
12.44013666 Turk_Central_West
Target: A
Distance: 1.2714% / 1.27139919 | ADC: 0.25x
29.4 Zaza
29.2 Uzbekistan_Jews
20.0 Udi_Azerbaijan
19.6 Turk_East
0.8 Cambodians
0.6 Dai
0.2 Moroccan
0.2 Nganassan
She is very beautiful, i also would say she is turanic. She definitely does not looks like a Zaza.
She is very beautiful, i also would say she is turanic. She definitely does not looks like a Zaza.
where she passes best iyo, I hope it's not your turkish racism speaking :D
Her paternal side from her mother is Zaza
I know a lot of beautiful east anadolu girls
She is pretty and I agree with Doc, I would have guess more Mongoloid than just 3.5% (Sib/SEA). More like 10% or so.
All non-azerbaijani Iranian matches of my father:
Typically Iranian result:
Gedrosian: 27.84
Siberian: 1.43
Northwest_African: 0.00
Southeast_Asian: 0.00
Atlantic_Med: 4.38
North_European: 9.03
South_Asian 4.73
East_African 1.83
Southwest_Asian: 12.16
East_Asian: 0.32
Caucasian: 38.18
Sub-Saharan: 0.09
Distance to: TE
4.61108447 Iranian
5.50925585 Iranian_Fars
5.58368158 Iran_Mazandaran
5.79778406 Talysh_Azerbaijan
6.24531825 Lur_Iran
6.91374718 Kurd_KAZ
6.94956833 Kurd_Sorani
7.04682907 Kurd_Kurmanji
8.00486102 Zaza
8.13679298 Azerbaijani_Iran
8.68480858 Iran_Khorasan
9.52389101 Azerbaijani
9.76330887 Turkmen_Iraq
10.29400311 Azerbaijani_Turkey
10.45987094 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
12.24697105 Udi_Azerbaijan
12.66703596 Turk_Southeast
14.06094236 Uzbekistan_Jews
14.41720500 Turkmens
14.55760282 Turk_East
15.41182987 Lezgin
15.49768047 Turkmen_Iran
15.50054838 Parsi_India
15.71544145 Turk_Central_East
15.87032766 Ingush
Target: TE
Distance: 1.3175% / 1.31747169 | ADC: 0.25x
35.0 Iran_Mazandaran
24.4 Iranian_Fars
21.6 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
10.4 Iranian
7.4 Kurd_Sorani
1.2 Ethiopian_Jews
This one has Iranian name but his matches are mostly from Iraq, so Im guessing either Iraqi or Iranian Arab:
Gedrosian: 21.64
Siberian: 0.00
Northwest_African: 1.10
Southeast_Asian: 0.00
Atlantic_Med: 6.73
North_European: 3.73
South_Asian 4.49
East_African 0.00
Southwest_Asian: 18.75
East_Asian: 1.49
Caucasian: 35.71
Sub-Saharan: 6.37
Distance to: DA
8.25983051 Turkmen_Iraq
8.36937871 Kurd_Sorani
10.30014078 Iranian_Fars
10.33503749 Kurd_Kurmanji
10.45166016 Lur_Iran
11.26400462 Azerbaijani_Iran
11.53571844 Zaza
11.81274312 Azerbaijani
11.93273648 Turk_Southeast
12.28686697 Uzbekistan_Jews
12.38187789 Talysh_Azerbaijan
12.84254258 Azerbaijani_Turkey
12.92080880 Kurd_KAZ
12.93928514 Iranian
15.13319200 Iran_Khorasan
15.27825906 Assyrian
15.39009097 Turk_Central_East
15.43941385 Udi_Azerbaijan
15.53393060 Turk_East
15.70226098 Turk_South
15.75205701 Iran_Mazandaran
16.25658636 Syrians
16.35111923 Lebanese
16.73707262 Turk_Central_West
16.86716040 Iranian_Jews
Target: DA
Distance: 4.3859% / 4.38588461 | ADC: 0.5x
68.8 Kurd_Sorani
20.6 Turkmen_Iraq
7.8 Yemenese
1.6 Yoruba
1.2 YRI30
Typically Persian I would say:
Gedrosian: 26.19
Siberian: 0.00
Northwest_African: 0.79
Southeast_Asian: 0.00
Atlantic_Med: 3.76
North_European: 10.73
South_Asian 6.00
East_African 1.74
Southwest_Asian: 15.19
East_Asian: 0.34
Caucasian: 35.25
Sub-Saharan: 0.00
Distance to: KHM
5.40448888 Iranian_Fars
7.36097140 Kurd_Sorani
8.82147380 Lur_Iran
8.86040067 Iran_Khorasan
8.90769330 Kurd_Kurmanji
8.92896971 Iranian
9.27788230 Iran_Mazandaran
9.30814160 Talysh_Azerbaijan
9.67965908 Azerbaijani_Iran
9.97032597 Turkmen_Iraq
10.35598861 Kurd_KAZ
10.40349941 Zaza
10.46017686 Azerbaijani
11.99907913 Azerbaijani_Turkey
12.44194920 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
12.90112398 Turk_Southeast
14.16554976 Parsi_India
14.71317437 Udi_Azerbaijan
14.90232197 Turkmens
15.14181297 Uzbekistan_Jews
15.15003300 Turkmen_Iran
16.34074050 Turk_South
16.48118624 Turk_Central_East
16.52834535 Turk_East
16.59095235 Lezgin
Target: KHM
Distance: 2.6051% / 2.60513887 | ADC: 0.25x
63.4 Iranian_Fars
18.2 Tabasaran
11.4 Iran_Mazandaran
3.2 Saudis
2.2 Yemen_Jews
1.6 Parsi_India
Possibly Mazandarani:
Gedrosian: 31.79
Siberian: 0.59
Northwest_African: 0.09
Southeast_Asian: 0.00
Atlantic_Med: 5.79
North_European: 6.71
South_Asian 4.49
East_African 0.22
Southwest_Asian: 11.69
East_Asian: 1.50
Caucasian: 36.50
South_African: 0.69
Distance to: ET
4.77612814 Iran_Mazandaran
5.38516481 Iranian
5.77099645 Iranian_Fars
6.48386459 Lur_Iran
8.51815708 Talysh_Azerbaijan
8.58203938 Kurd_KAZ
8.99127355 Iran_Khorasan
9.22283037 Kurd_Sorani
9.37033084 Kurd_Kurmanji
10.51040913 Zaza
10.95981295 Azerbaijani_Iran
11.75943451 Turkmen_Iraq
12.34319246 Azerbaijani
13.16359373 Azerbaijani_Turkey
13.82385257 Turkmens
13.88846284 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
14.44948788 Parsi_India
15.01722012 Iran_Bandari
15.21712851 Udi_Azerbaijan
15.44374631 Turk_Southeast
16.11012104 Turkmen_Iran
16.70748335 Uzbekistan_Jews
17.60668055 Lezgin
17.60861437 Turk_East
18.04490233 Tajik_Herat
Target: ET
Distance: 1.4776% / 1.47764480 | ADC: 0.25x
46.2 Iran_Mazandaran
37.6 Iranian
8.6 Iranian_Fars
5.0 Makrani
1.8 Pais_Vasco
0.6 Japanese
0.2 Yagnobi
This one could also bei Azerbaijani, but Im not sure I include it here anyway:
Gedrosian: 23.92
Siberian: 2.44
Northwest_African: 1.82
Southeast_Asian: 1.17
Atlantic_Med: 7.80
North_European: 9.17
South_Asian 3.21
East_African 0.54
Southwest_Asian: 10.08
East_Asian: 1.37
Caucasian: 38.25
South_African: 0.23
Distance to: NS
3.65265657 Azerbaijani_Iran
4.83265972 Azerbaijani
5.12291909 Kurd_Kurmanji
5.29705579 Azerbaijani_Turkey
5.52096006 Talysh_Azerbaijan
6.14869905 Zaza
7.08252780 Kurd_Sorani
7.29359993 Iranian
8.04732875 Turk_Southeast
8.09554816 Turkmen_Iraq
8.11142404 Iranian_Fars
8.26354645 Kurd_KAZ
8.31008424 Lur_Iran
8.75111421 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
9.08099114 Iran_Khorasan
9.43110810 Udi_Azerbaijan
10.32397210 Turk_Central_East
10.57312158 Turk_East
10.65395701 Iran_Mazandaran
10.67555619 Turk_South
11.64707259 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
11.78080642 Turk_Anatolia
12.06010365 Turk_Central_West
12.96451310 Uzbekistan_Jews
13.29278000 Ingush
Target: NS
Distance: 1.3051% / 1.30510782 | ADC: 0.25x
58.2 Azerbaijani_Iran
19.2 Iranian
17.4 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
2.6 Tajik_Panjshir&Kapisa
1.4 Canarias
Roma/Gypsy. Strong Indian input in this one
Gedrosia 17.76 Pct
Siberian -
Northwest_African 2.79 Pct
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 14.23 Pct
North_European 11.40 Pct
South_Asian 22.31 Pct
East_African 0.52 Pct
Southwest_Asian 7.68 Pct
East_Asian 1.23 Pct
Caucasus 22.08 Pct
Sub_Saharan -
Distance to: Mariyka
5.60826176 Balkan_Gypsy
20.01800440 Parsi_India
20.05804826 Tajik_Herat
20.88927955 Tajik_Kabul
21.81405052 Bnei_Menashe_Jews
22.53317554 Iran_Khorasan
22.87770530 Pashtun_Kandahar
23.16256031 Turkmen_Iran
23.74134579 Tajik_Tajikistan
24.28225690 Pashtun_Uthmankhel
Target: Mariyka
Distance: 2.0213% / 2.02129307 | ADC: 0.25x
72.2 Balkan_Gypsy
14.6 Bnei_Menashe_Jews
5.8 Tajik_Kabul
2.8 Moroccan
2.2 Murcia
2.0 Tajik_Herat
0.4 Portuguese
Bender1999
09-02-2020, 04:51 PM
where she passes best iyo, I hope it's not your turkish racism speaking :D
Not with my eyebrows and googly, blue and green eyes.
She looks more northern shifted, like Caucasian Turkic, or maybe Central Asian+ Westasian/Caucasus mix. The SE-Asia probably comes from her Azerbaijani side.
I know a lot of beautiful east anadolu girls
Of course but Eastern Anatolians definitely don’t look so. I just mentioned Zazas because of the results, and they are maybe the most tanned group in Turkey, probably an ancient Anatolia look(although they have various origins)
A typical Azerbaijani last name but also many AZ Jewish matches (not one or two but like 10 or so). I suppose this guy may be a "cosmopolitan" Baku mix
Gedrosia 21.21 Pct
Siberian -
Northwest_African 0.05 Pct
Southeast_Asian 0.21 Pct
Atlantic_Med 8.47 Pct
North_European 8.88 Pct
South_Asian 3.14 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 15.86 Pct
East_Asian 1.11 Pct
Caucasus 41.07 Pct
Sub_Saharan -
Distance to: Elshad
4.33330128 Zaza
4.58653464 Kurd_Kurmanji
4.91097750 Turkmen_Iraq
5.17828157 Kurd_Sorani
5.55396255 Azerbaijani_Iran
5.86293442 Azerbaijani
6.22459637 Azerbaijani_Turkey
6.50853286 Talysh_Azerbaijan
6.81538700 Turk_Southeast
6.84249954 Udi_Azerbaijan
Target: Elshad
Distance: 1.8323% / 1.83230843 | ADC: 0.25x
41.4 Kurd_Sorani
28.8 Uzbekistan_Jews
13.0 Udi_Azerbaijan
12.6 Azerbaijani
2.8 Romanians
1.4 Lithuanian
Kaspias
09-02-2020, 09:21 PM
My DNA twin :)
Joke aside, she is Balkan Turk from Dobrich, Bulgaria.
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 26.94
2 North_European 25.98
3 Atlantic_Med 18.06
4 Gedrosia 9.61
5 Southwest_Asian 9.36
6 East_Asian 4.22
7 Siberian 2.57
8 Southeast_Asian 1.78
9 Northwest_African 0.94
10 South_Asian 0.36
11 East_African 0.18
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Bulgarian (Dodecad) 12.94
2 Romanians (Behar) 14.09
3 Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) 14.46
4 Greek (Dodecad) 16.2
5 O_Italian (Dodecad) 16.38
6 Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) 19.43
7 C_Italian (Dodecad) 19.59
8 Ashkenazi (Dodecad) 19.94
9 S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) 20.44
10 Sicilian (Dodecad) 20.74
11 Tuscan (HGDP) 21.13
12 TSI30 (Metspalu) 21.56
13 Nogais (Yunusbayev) 22.26
14 N_Italian (Dodecad) 23.2
15 Turkish (Dodecad) 23.72
16 Sephardic_Jews (Behar) 24.46
17 Turks (Behar) 24.95
18 Kumyks (Yunusbayev) 25.69
19 Hungarians (Behar) 25.87
20 Morocco_Jews (Behar) 25.91
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 68.6% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 31.4% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) @ 4.82
2 65.8% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 34.2% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) @ 4.95
3 66.5% Romanians (Behar) + 33.5% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) @ 5.03
4 62% Turks (Behar) + 38% Swedish (Dodecad) @ 5.25
5 62.3% Turks (Behar) + 37.7% Norwegian (Dodecad) @ 5.53
6 63.3% Turkish (Dodecad) + 36.7% Swedish (Dodecad) @ 5.54
7 55.2% Turks (Behar) + 44.8% German (Dodecad) @ 5.86
8 63.6% Turkish (Dodecad) + 36.4% Norwegian (Dodecad) @ 5.99
9 51% Turks (Behar) + 49% Hungarians (Behar) @ 6.12
10 54.6% Hungarians (Behar) + 45.4% Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) @ 6.17
11 58.8% Hungarians (Behar) + 41.2% Iranian_Jews (Behar) @ 6.32
12 56.6% Turkish (Dodecad) + 43.4% German (Dodecad) @ 6.51
13 78.9% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 21.1% Hazara (HGDP) @ 6.55
14 69.2% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 30.8% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) @ 6.57
15 58.3% Hungarians (Behar) + 41.7% Iraq_Jews (Behar) @ 6.59
16 72.2% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 27.8% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) @ 6.61
17 52.3% Turkish (Dodecad) + 47.7% Hungarians (Behar) @ 6.65
18 71.7% Romanians (Behar) + 28.3% Iranians (Behar) @ 6.67
19 54.1% Georgia_Jews (Behar) + 45.9% Swedish (Dodecad) @ 6.67
20 54.4% Georgia_Jews (Behar) + 45.6% Norwegian (Dodecad) @ 6.68
My results for comparison
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 North_European 26.85
2 Caucasus 25.4
3 Atlantic_Med 18.43
4 Gedrosia 8.87
5 Southwest_Asian 8.41
6 Siberian 5.92
7 East_Asian 3.06
8 Northwest_African 1.72
9 South_Asian 1.31
10 Southeast_Asian 0.01
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Bulgarian (Dodecad) 13.04
2 Romanians (Behar) 13.86
3 Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) 14.33
4 O_Italian (Dodecad) 16.94
5 Greek (Dodecad) 17.53
6 C_Italian (Dodecad) 20.38
7 Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) 20.84
8 Ashkenazi (Dodecad) 21.31
9 Tuscan (HGDP) 21.7
10 S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) 21.83
11 TSI30 (Metspalu) 21.96
12 Sicilian (Dodecad) 22.05
13 Nogais (Yunusbayev) 22.2
14 N_Italian (Dodecad) 23.05
15 Hungarians (Behar) 24.68
16 Turkish (Dodecad) 25.53
17 North_Italian (HGDP) 25.9
18 Sephardic_Jews (Behar) 25.94
19 Turks (Behar) 26.71
20 Morocco_Jews (Behar) 27.13
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 61.4% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 38.6% Chuvashs (Behar) @ 5.07
2 57.1% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) + 42.9% Chuvashs (Behar) @ 5.25
3 61.2% Sicilian (Dodecad) + 38.8% Chuvashs (Behar) @ 5.6
4 73.4% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 26.6% Uzbeks (Behar) @ 5.91
5 78.2% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 21.8% Hazara (HGDP) @ 6.02
6 68.3% Romanians (Behar) + 31.7% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) @ 6.03
7 67.4% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 32.6% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) @ 6.13
8 62.8% Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) + 37.2% Chuvashs (Behar) @ 6.24
9 59.5% Turks (Behar) + 40.5% Swedish (Dodecad) @ 6.27
10 70.1% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 29.9% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) @ 6.28
11 59.8% Turks (Behar) + 40.2% Norwegian (Dodecad) @ 6.39
12 62.3% Ashkenazi (Dodecad) + 37.7% Chuvashs (Behar) @ 6.45
13 56% Morocco_Jews (Behar) + 44% Chuvashs (Behar) @ 6.45
14 69.4% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 30.6% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) @ 6.49
15 60.7% Turkish (Dodecad) + 39.3% Swedish (Dodecad) @ 6.62
16 72.4% Romanians (Behar) + 27.6% Uzbeks (Behar) @ 6.65
17 71.6% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 28.4% Uzbeks (Behar) @ 6.7
18 72.3% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 27.7% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) @ 6.86
19 76.7% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 23.3% Hazara (HGDP) @ 6.87
20 77.4% Romanians (Behar) + 22.6% Hazara (HGDP) @ 6.88
My DNA twin :)
Joke aside, she is Balkan Turk from Dobrich, Bulgaria.
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 26.94
2 North_European 25.98
3 Atlantic_Med 18.06
4 Gedrosia 9.61
5 Southwest_Asian 9.36
6 East_Asian 4.22
7 Siberian 2.57
8 Southeast_Asian 1.78
9 Northwest_African 0.94
10 South_Asian 0.36
11 East_African 0.18
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Bulgarian (Dodecad) 12.94
2 Romanians (Behar) 14.09
3 Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) 14.46
4 Greek (Dodecad) 16.2
5 O_Italian (Dodecad) 16.38
6 Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) 19.43
7 C_Italian (Dodecad) 19.59
8 Ashkenazi (Dodecad) 19.94
9 S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) 20.44
10 Sicilian (Dodecad) 20.74
11 Tuscan (HGDP) 21.13
12 TSI30 (Metspalu) 21.56
13 Nogais (Yunusbayev) 22.26
14 N_Italian (Dodecad) 23.2
15 Turkish (Dodecad) 23.72
16 Sephardic_Jews (Behar) 24.46
17 Turks (Behar) 24.95
18 Kumyks (Yunusbayev) 25.69
19 Hungarians (Behar) 25.87
20 Morocco_Jews (Behar) 25.91
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 68.6% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 31.4% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) @ 4.82
2 65.8% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 34.2% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) @ 4.95
3 66.5% Romanians (Behar) + 33.5% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) @ 5.03
4 62% Turks (Behar) + 38% Swedish (Dodecad) @ 5.25
5 62.3% Turks (Behar) + 37.7% Norwegian (Dodecad) @ 5.53
6 63.3% Turkish (Dodecad) + 36.7% Swedish (Dodecad) @ 5.54
7 55.2% Turks (Behar) + 44.8% German (Dodecad) @ 5.86
8 63.6% Turkish (Dodecad) + 36.4% Norwegian (Dodecad) @ 5.99
9 51% Turks (Behar) + 49% Hungarians (Behar) @ 6.12
10 54.6% Hungarians (Behar) + 45.4% Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) @ 6.17
11 58.8% Hungarians (Behar) + 41.2% Iranian_Jews (Behar) @ 6.32
12 56.6% Turkish (Dodecad) + 43.4% German (Dodecad) @ 6.51
13 78.9% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 21.1% Hazara (HGDP) @ 6.55
14 69.2% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 30.8% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) @ 6.57
15 58.3% Hungarians (Behar) + 41.7% Iraq_Jews (Behar) @ 6.59
16 72.2% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 27.8% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) @ 6.61
17 52.3% Turkish (Dodecad) + 47.7% Hungarians (Behar) @ 6.65
18 71.7% Romanians (Behar) + 28.3% Iranians (Behar) @ 6.67
19 54.1% Georgia_Jews (Behar) + 45.9% Swedish (Dodecad) @ 6.67
20 54.4% Georgia_Jews (Behar) + 45.6% Norwegian (Dodecad) @ 6.68
My results for comparison
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 North_European 26.85
2 Caucasus 25.4
3 Atlantic_Med 18.43
4 Gedrosia 8.87
5 Southwest_Asian 8.41
6 Siberian 5.92
7 East_Asian 3.06
8 Northwest_African 1.72
9 South_Asian 1.31
10 Southeast_Asian 0.01
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Bulgarian (Dodecad) 13.04
2 Romanians (Behar) 13.86
3 Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) 14.33
4 O_Italian (Dodecad) 16.94
5 Greek (Dodecad) 17.53
6 C_Italian (Dodecad) 20.38
7 Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) 20.84
8 Ashkenazi (Dodecad) 21.31
9 Tuscan (HGDP) 21.7
10 S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) 21.83
11 TSI30 (Metspalu) 21.96
12 Sicilian (Dodecad) 22.05
13 Nogais (Yunusbayev) 22.2
14 N_Italian (Dodecad) 23.05
15 Hungarians (Behar) 24.68
16 Turkish (Dodecad) 25.53
17 North_Italian (HGDP) 25.9
18 Sephardic_Jews (Behar) 25.94
19 Turks (Behar) 26.71
20 Morocco_Jews (Behar) 27.13
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 61.4% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 38.6% Chuvashs (Behar) @ 5.07
2 57.1% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) + 42.9% Chuvashs (Behar) @ 5.25
3 61.2% Sicilian (Dodecad) + 38.8% Chuvashs (Behar) @ 5.6
4 73.4% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 26.6% Uzbeks (Behar) @ 5.91
5 78.2% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 21.8% Hazara (HGDP) @ 6.02
6 68.3% Romanians (Behar) + 31.7% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) @ 6.03
7 67.4% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 32.6% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) @ 6.13
8 62.8% Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) + 37.2% Chuvashs (Behar) @ 6.24
9 59.5% Turks (Behar) + 40.5% Swedish (Dodecad) @ 6.27
10 70.1% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 29.9% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) @ 6.28
11 59.8% Turks (Behar) + 40.2% Norwegian (Dodecad) @ 6.39
12 62.3% Ashkenazi (Dodecad) + 37.7% Chuvashs (Behar) @ 6.45
13 56% Morocco_Jews (Behar) + 44% Chuvashs (Behar) @ 6.45
14 69.4% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 30.6% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) @ 6.49
15 60.7% Turkish (Dodecad) + 39.3% Swedish (Dodecad) @ 6.62
16 72.4% Romanians (Behar) + 27.6% Uzbeks (Behar) @ 6.65
17 71.6% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 28.4% Uzbeks (Behar) @ 6.7
18 72.3% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 27.7% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) @ 6.86
19 76.7% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 23.3% Hazara (HGDP) @ 6.87
20 77.4% Romanians (Behar) + 22.6% Hazara (HGDP) @ 6.88
And you don't use your own references from the updated oracle :D
I find it interesting that the Atlantic Med is low in both of you compared to actual Greeks, Bulgarians and Macedonians.
I find this friend of Kaspias interesting
She is my friend and also distant relative according to the Gedmatch.
Paternal grandfather: Tatar from Dobruja, Bulgaria.
Paternal grandmother: Circassian from Turkey, idk her origin.
Maternal grandfather: Balkan Turk from Evros, Western Thrace. - Roots from Edirne, Eastern Thrace -
Maternal grandmother: Balkan Turk from Evros, Western Thrace.
mt-DNA: H
Dodecad K12b
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 32.47
2 North_European 29.07
3 Atlantic_Med 14.06
4 Gedrosia 10.11
5 Southwest_Asian 5.16
6 East_Asian 5.16
7 Siberian 3.95
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Bulgarian (Dodecad) 13.89
2 Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) 15.21
3 Romanians (Behar) 15.34
4 Nogais (Yunusbayev) 16.88
5 Greek (Dodecad) 18.95
6 Kumyks (Yunusbayev) 20.76
7 O_Italian (Dodecad) 21.3
8 Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) 22.4
9 Turkish (Dodecad) 22.6
10 Ashkenazi (Dodecad) 23.33
11 Turks (Behar) 23.6
12 C_Italian (Dodecad) 24.11
13 S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) 24.48
14 Sicilian (Dodecad) 24.71
15 Lezgins (Behar) 25.23
16 Chechens (Yunusbayev) 25.38
17 Tuscan (HGDP) 25.6
18 TSI30 (Metspalu) 26.37
19 Turkmens (Yunusbayev) 26.44
20 Adygei (HGDP) 27.1
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 55.1% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 44.9% Nogais (Yunusbayev) @ 3.41
2 52.5% Romanians (Behar) + 47.5% Nogais (Yunusbayev) @ 3.72
3 62.7% Turkish (Dodecad) + 37.3% Mordovians (Yunusbayev) @ 4.06
4 64.4% Turkish (Dodecad) + 35.6% Russian (HGDP) @ 4.16
5 69.3% Turkish (Dodecad) + 30.7% FIN30 (1000Genomes) @ 4.23
6 70% Turkish (Dodecad) + 30% Finnish (Dodecad) @ 4.34
7 63.2% Turks (Behar) + 36.8% Russian (Dodecad) @ 4.45
8 63.9% Turkish (Dodecad) + 36.1% Russian_B (Behar) @ 4.54
9 52.8% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 47.2% Nogais (Yunusbayev) @ 4.54
10 62% Turks (Behar) + 38% Mixed_Slav (Dodecad) @ 4.55
11 62.3% Turks (Behar) + 37.7% Polish (Dodecad) @ 4.61
12 63.1% Turkish (Dodecad) + 36.9% Mixed_Slav (Dodecad) @ 4.68
13 62.9% Turks (Behar) + 37.1% Russian_B (Behar) @ 4.77
14 63.5% Turks (Behar) + 36.5% Russian (HGDP) @ 4.95
15 68.5% Turks (Behar) + 31.5% FIN30 (1000Genomes) @ 4.97
16 69.6% Turkish (Dodecad) + 30.4% Lithuanians (Behar) @ 4.99
17 61.8% Turks (Behar) + 38.2% Mordovians (Yunusbayev) @ 5
18 63.9% Turks (Behar) + 36.1% Belorussian (Behar) @ 5.04
19 60.3% Turks (Behar) + 39.7% Ukranians (Yunusbayev) @ 5.05
20 69.2% Turks (Behar) + 30.8% Finnish (Dodecad) @ 5.1
Target: Kaspias_friend
Distance: 2.0257% / 2.02573540 | ADC: 0.25x
36.2 Bulgarian
28.0 Nogais
17.4 Qumuq
17.2 Turk_Bulgaria
1.2 Mordovian
I also remember the 9% EE was visible in her looks.
Kaspias
09-03-2020, 10:23 AM
And you don't use your own references from the updated oracle :D
I find it interesting that the Atlantic Med is low in both of you compared to actual Greeks, Bulgarians and Macedonians.
Her results with updated datasheet:
Least-squares method.
Using 1 population approximation:
1 Turk_Bulgaria @ 5,924381
2 Turk_Greece @ 6,996554
3 Crimean_Tatar_Mountain @ 8,948831
4 Turk_Macedonia @ 9,364502
5 R,Moldova_Gagauz @ 10,190197
6 Gagauz @ 10,558562
7 R,Moldova_South @ 11,844247
8 Crimean_Tatar_Coast @ 11,859142
9 Pomak @ 12,509894
10 Albanian_Kosovo @ 13,335641
11 Bulgarian @ 13,722157
12 Albanian_North @ 14,079683
13 Macedonian @ 14,41872
14 Italy_Apulia @ 14,765346
15 Romanians @ 14,987918
16 Turk_Northwest @ 15,063826
17 Bulgarians @ 15,434724
18 Montenegrin @ 16,22802
19 Italy_Lazio @ 16,247271
20 Italy_Abruzzo @ 16,963109
21 Greek @ 17,487106
22 Turk_West_BlackSea @ 17,520195
23 Italy_Marche @ 17,787409
24 Turk_Southwest @ 17,819565
25 MD_Jewish @ 18,078757
26 Italy_Sicily @ 18,202047
27 Italy_Romagna @ 18,440811
28 Serb @ 18,626293
29 Ashkenazi_Jews @ 18,920519
30 Italy_Campania @ 19,18892
335 iterations.
Using 2 populations approximation:
1 Bosnian+Turk_South @ 3,415429
2 Croat+Turk_South @ 3,437956
3 HUN_Szekely+Turk_South @ 3,691192
4 Bosnian+Turk_Anatolia @ 3,73366
5 Bosnian+Turk_Southwest @ 3,775306
6 Bosnian+Turk_Central_West @ 3,819732
7 HUN_Szekely+Turk_Central_West @ 3,822693
8 HUN_Szekely+Turk_Anatolia @ 3,831536
9 Croat+Turk_Anatolia @ 3,938877
10 Serb+Turk_Southwest @ 3,967878
11 HUN_Szekely+Turk_West_BlackSea @ 4,046478
12 Croat+Turk_Central_Black_Sea @ 4,053003
13 Bosnian+Yoruk @ 4,053542
14 Croat+Turk_Central_West @ 4,056731
15 HUN_Szekely+Turk_Southwest @ 4,067368
16 Bosnian+Turk_Central_Black_Sea @ 4,097763
17 Serb+Yoruk @ 4,09781
18 Croat+Turk_Southeast @ 4,124217
19 Serb+Turk_South @ 4,139548
20 Serb+Turk_Northwest @ 4,227214
21 Slovenian+Turk_South @ 4,250468
22 Croat+Turk_Southwest @ 4,267507
23 Slovenian+Turk_Central_Black_Sea @ 4,345439
24 Bosnian+Turk_Southeast @ 4,359355
25 Pomak+Turk_Northwest @ 4,36067
26 Slovenian+Turk_Southeast @ 4,367195
27 Serb+Turk_Anatolia @ 4,393263
28 Bosnian+Turk_West_BlackSea @ 4,411801
29 Croat+Yoruk @ 4,427656
30 Croat+Turk_Central_East @ 4,431301
56280 iterations.
Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Serb +25% Crimean_Tatar_Steppe +25% Iranian_Jews @ 1,717667
2 50% Serb +25% Crimean_Tatar_Steppe +25% Iraq_Jews @ 1,984923
3 50% Serb +25% Assyrian +25% Crimean_Tatar_Steppe @ 2,163774
4 50% Montenegrin +25% Crimean_Tatar_Steppe +25% Uzbekistan_Jews @ 2,221412
5 50% Serb +25% Crimean_Tatar_Steppe +25% Georgia_Jews @ 2,42726
6 50% Greek_Crete +25% Turkmen_Uzbekistan +25% Lithuanian @ 2,450914
7 50% Croat +25% Druze +25% Turkmen_Uzbekistan @ 2,510639
8 50% Pomak +25% Crimean_Tatar_Steppe +25% Turkmen_Iraq @ 2,513814
9 50% Bosnian +25% Crimean_Tatar_Steppe +25% Iranian_Jews @ 2,550353
10 50% Serb +25% Crimean_Tatar_Steppe +25% Uzbekistan_Jews @ 2,551398
11 50% Serb +25% Azerbaijan_Jews +25% Crimean_Tatar_Steppe @ 2,577986
12 50% Croat +25% Druze +25% Uzbek @ 2,658511
13 50% Bosnian +25% Crimean_Tatar_Steppe +25% Iraq_Jews @ 2,671493
14 50% Macedonian +25% Crimean_Tatar_Steppe +25% Uzbekistan_Jews @ 2,675554
15 50% Bosnian +25% Druze +25% Uzbek @ 2,740575
16 50% HUN_Szekely +25% Crimean_Tatar_Steppe +25% Iranian_Jews @ 2,740696
17 50% Montenegrin +25% Crimean_Tatar_Steppe +25% Iranian_Jews @ 2,748191
18 50% Montenegrin +25% Assyrian +25% Crimean_Tatar_Steppe @ 2,772478
19 50% Greek_Crete +25% Turkmen_Uzbekistan +25% Latvian @ 2,79312
20 50% Turk_Southwest +25% Ashkenazi_Jews +25% Latvian @ 2,799016
21 50% Pomak +25% Crimean_Tatar_Steppe +25% Turk_Southeast @ 2,8112
22 50% Turk_Southwest +25% Latvian +25% MD_Jewish @ 2,812887
23 50% Macedonian +25% Crimean_Tatar_Steppe +25% Turkmen_Iraq @ 2,830163
24 50% Turk_Southwest +25% Italy_Calabria +25% Latvian @ 2,83553
25 50% Croat +25% Crimean_Tatar_Steppe +25% Iranian_Jews @ 2,841091
26 50% Turk_Southwest +25% Italy_Campania +25% Latvian @ 2,842155
27 50% HUN_Szekely +25% Crimean_Tatar_Steppe +25% Iraq_Jews @ 2,858144
28 50% Pomak +25% Crimean_Tatar_Steppe +25% Uzbekistan_Jews @ 2,873577
29 50% Romanians +25% Crimean_Tatar_Steppe +25% Turkmen_Iraq @ 2,891612
30 50% Turk_Southwest +25% Italy_Sicily +25% Latvian @ 2,898563
10237811 iterations.
Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Crimean_Tatar_Steppe+Iranian_Jews+Pomak+Slovenian @ 1,55472
2 Crimean_Tatar_Steppe+Croat+Iranian_Jews+Macedonian @ 1,629757
3 Crimean_Tatar_Steppe+Croat+Iranian_Jews+Montenegri n @ 1,637106
4 Crimean_Tatar_Steppe+Iranian_Jews+R,Moldova_South+ Slovenian @ 1,643756
5 Crimean_Tatar_Steppe+Iranian_Jews+Italy_Lazio+PL_M azovia @ 1,683111
6 Albanian_Kosovo+Crimean_Tatar_Steppe+Iranian_Jews+ PL_GreaterPoland @ 1,688982
7 Bosnian+Crimean_Tatar_Steppe+Iranian_Jews+Monteneg rin @ 1,692992
8 Crimean_Tatar_Steppe+Hungarians+Iranian_Jews+R,Mol dova_South @ 1,694682
9 Albanian_Kosovo+Crimean_Tatar_Steppe+Iranian_Jews+ Slovak @ 1,698238
10 Albanian_North+Crimean_Tatar_Steppe+Iranian_Jews+S lovak @ 1,700263
11 Crimean_Tatar_Steppe+Georgia_Jews+Italy_Apulia+PL_ Warmia-Masuria @ 1,700608
12 Crimean_Tatar_Steppe+Iranian_Jews+Serb+Serb @ 1,717667
13 Crimean_Tatar_Steppe+Hungarians+Iraq_Jews+R,Moldov a_Gagauz @ 1,721967
14 Belorussian+Crimean_Tatar_Steppe+Iranian_Jews+Ital y_Lazio @ 1,737046
15 Crimean_Tatar_Steppe+Gagauz+Iranian_Jews+Slovenian @ 1,737879
16 Crimean_Tatar_Steppe+Iraq_Jews+PL_GreaterPoland+Tu rk_Macedonia @ 1,742644
17 Crimean_Tatar_Steppe+Croat+Iranian_Jews+Pomak @ 1,75738
18 Crimean_Tatar_Steppe+Iranian_Jews+Macedonian+Slove nian @ 1,759243
19 Crimean_Tatar_Steppe+Iraq_Jews+Sorb_Lusatia+Turk_M acedonia @ 1,762288
20 Assyrian+Crimean_Tatar_Steppe+Croat+Pomak @ 1,780561
21 Crimean_Tatar_Steppe+Iranian_Jews+R,Moldova_Gagauz +Slovenian @ 1,793871
22 Crimean_Tatar_Steppe+Iraq_Jews+Slovak+Turk_Macedon ia @ 1,798136
23 Crimean_Tatar_Steppe+Hungarians+Iranian_Jews+R,Mol dova_Gagauz @ 1,800166
24 Crimean_Tatar_Steppe+Gagauz+Hungarians+Iranian_Jew s @ 1,802355
25 Bosnian+Crimean_Tatar_Steppe+Iranian_Jews+Macedoni an @ 1,806859
26 Crimean_Tatar_Steppe+Iranian_Jews+Italy_Marche+PL_ Mazovia @ 1,807929
27 Crimean_Tatar_Steppe+Croat+Iraq_Jews+Pomak @ 1,808975
28 Crimean_Tatar_Steppe+Gagauz+Hungarians+Iraq_Jews @ 1,81738
29 Crimean_Tatar_Steppe+Georgia_Jews+Italy_Abruzzo+PL _Warmia-Masuria @ 1,818146
30 Belorussian+Crimean_Tatar_Steppe+Iranian_Jews+Ital y_Marche @ 1,821144
31 Crimean_Tatar_Steppe+Croat+Iraq_Jews+Macedonian @ 1,836196
32 Crimean_Tatar_Steppe+Georgia_Jews+Italy_Lazio+Ukra inian @ 1,84219
33 Crimean_Tatar_Steppe+Iraq_Jews+R,Moldova_Gagauz+Sl ovenian @ 1,843997
34 Crimean_Tatar_Steppe+Iraq_Jews+Pomak+Slovenian @ 1,846374
35 Albanian_North+Crimean_Tatar_Steppe+Iranian_Jews+P L_GreaterPoland @ 1,868738
36 Albanian_Kosovo+Crimean_Tatar_Steppe+Iranian_Jews+ Sorb_Lusatia @ 1,87619
37 Crimean_Tatar_Steppe+Gagauz+Iraq_Jews+Slovenian @ 1,879467
38 Assyrian+Bosnian+Crimean_Tatar_Steppe+Pomak @ 1,881956
39 Crimean_Tatar_Steppe+Gagauz+Iranian_Jews+Slovak @ 1,882192
40 Bosnian+Crimean_Tatar_Steppe+Iranian_Jews+Serb @ 1,882372
41 Bosnian+Crimean_Tatar_Steppe+Iraq_Jews+Macedonian @ 1,904885
42 Crimean_Tatar_Steppe+Gagauz+Iraq_Jews+Slovak @ 1,913815
43 Bosnian+Crimean_Tatar_Steppe+Iraq_Jews+Montenegrin @ 1,917981
44 Crimean_Tatar_Steppe+Hungarians+Iraq_Jews+R,Moldov a_South @ 1,918956
45 Albanian_Kosovo+Crimean_Tatar_Steppe+Iranian_Jews+ Ukrainian @ 1,921651
46 Crimean_Tatar_Steppe+Hungarians+Iranian_Jews+Pomak @ 1,924074
47 Assyrian+Belorussian+Crimean_Tatar_Steppe+Italy_Ab ruzzo @ 1,924731
48 Crimean_Tatar_Steppe+Hungarians+Iranian_Jews+Maced onian @ 1,93498
49 Crimean_Tatar_Steppe+Iraq_Jews+R,Moldova_Gagauz+Sl ovak @ 1,943881
50 Crimean_Tatar_Steppe+Croat+Iranian_Jews+R,Moldova_ South @ 1,94398
51 Crimean_Tatar_Steppe+Croat+Iranian_Jews+Serb @ 1,952346
52 Crimean_Tatar_Steppe+Iranian_Jews+Italy_Romagna+PL _Mazovia @ 1,953405
53 Crimean_Tatar_Steppe+Georgia_Jews+Italy_Lazio+PL_G reaterPoland @ 1,954083
54 Assyrian+Belorussian+Crimean_Tatar_Steppe+Italy_Ap ulia @ 1,955472
55 Crimean_Tatar_Steppe+Iranian_Jews+Italy_Lazio+Ukra inian @ 1,957487
56 Crimean_Tatar_Steppe+Croat+Iraq_Jews+Montenegrin @ 1,960664
57 Albanian_North+Crimean_Tatar_Steppe+Hungarians+Ira nian_Jews @ 1,968801
58 Crimean_Tatar_Steppe+Pomak+Serb+Uzbekistan_Jews @ 1,977612
59 Crimean_Tatar_Steppe+Iranian_Jews+Sorb_Lusatia+Tur k_Macedonia @ 1,980551
60 Crimean_Tatar_Steppe+Iraq_Jews+Serb+Serb @ 1,984923
76363571 iterations.
Gaussian method.
Noise dispersion set to 0,421402
Using 1 population approximation:
1 Turk_Bulgaria @ 5,225823
2 Turk_Greece @ 5,263575
3 Crimean_Tatar_Mountain @ 5,418099
4 Crimean_Tatar_Coast @ 8,724962
5 Turk_Northwest @ 8,964942
6 Turk_West_BlackSea @ 9,320839
7 HUN_Szekely @ 9,565536
8 R,Moldova_Gagauz @ 10,254821
9 Turk_Southwest @ 10,481383
10 R,Moldova_South @ 10,483159
11 Pomak @ 10,951855
12 Turk_Central_West @ 11,158272
13 Turk_Anatolia @ 11,330041
14 Crimean_Tatar_Steppe @ 11,735335
15 Italy_Apulia @ 11,79832
16 Ashkenazi_Jews @ 12,055552
17 Turk_South @ 12,410456
18 Qumuq @ 12,490695
19 Turk_Central_Black_Sea @ 12,584289
20 Turk_Central_East @ 12,619083
21 Gagauz @ 12,669724
22 Albanian_Kosovo @ 12,887239
23 Bulgarian @ 12,927734
24 MD_Jewish @ 13,081394
25 Yagnobi @ 13,157664
26 Yoruk @ 13,205403
27 Karachay @ 13,295055
28 Turk_Macedonia @ 13,333034
29 Serb @ 13,3531
30 Balkar @ 13,453758
335 iterations.
Using 2 populations approximation:
1 Crimean_Tatar_Mountain+Turk_Greece @ 4,197609
2 Croat+Turk_Central_Black_Sea @ 4,20407
3 Slovenian+Turk_Central_Black_Sea @ 4,295516
4 Crimean_Tatar_Mountain+Pomak @ 4,319816
5 Croat+Turk_West_BlackSea @ 4,404339
6 Serb+Turk_West_BlackSea @ 4,414497
7 HUN_Szekely+Turk_West_BlackSea @ 4,424912
8 Serb+Turk_Central_Black_Sea @ 4,435615
9 Bosnian+Turk_Central_Black_Sea @ 4,486494
10 Crimean_Tatar_Mountain+Gagauz @ 4,492545
11 Crimean_Tatar_Mountain+R,Moldova_South @ 4,502812
12 Crimean_Tatar_Mountain+Turk_Bulgaria @ 4,515534
13 Crimean_Tatar_Mountain+Turk_Macedonia @ 4,524009
14 Hungarians+Turk_Central_Black_Sea @ 4,549081
15 Montenegrin+Turk_West_BlackSea @ 4,569567
16 Crimean_Tatar_Mountain+Macedonian @ 4,575945
17 Bosnian+Turk_West_BlackSea @ 4,592515
18 HUN_Szekely+Turk_Central_Black_Sea @ 4,618154
19 Albanian_Kosovo+Crimean_Tatar_Mountain @ 4,630929
20 Pomak+Turk_West_BlackSea @ 4,633606
21 Macedonian+Turk_West_BlackSea @ 4,650178
22 Crimean_Tatar_Mountain+Montenegrin @ 4,657383
23 Slovenian+Turk_West_BlackSea @ 4,660195
24 Slovak+Turk_Central_Black_Sea @ 4,668524
25 Croat+Turk_Anatolia @ 4,668916
26 Croat+Turk_Central_West @ 4,694658
27 Montenegrin+Turk_Central_Black_Sea @ 4,705329
28 Bulgarian+Crimean_Tatar_Mountain @ 4,722639
29 HUN_Szekely+Turk_Central_West @ 4,729174
30 Serb+Turk_Northwest @ 4,755597
56280 iterations.
Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Montenegrin +25% Crimean_Tatar_Steppe +25% Georgia_Jews @ 3,431974
2 50% Serb +25% Crimean_Tatar_Steppe +25% Georgia_Jews @ 3,512911
3 50% Macedonian +25% Crimean_Tatar_Steppe +25% Georgia_Jews @ 3,585443
4 50% Croat +25% Crimean_Tatar_Steppe +25% Georgia_Jews @ 3,604771
5 50% Croat +25% Crimean_Tatar_Steppe +25% Iranian_Jews @ 3,606077
6 50% Serb +25% Crimean_Tatar_Steppe +25% Iranian_Jews @ 3,650431
7 50% Croat +25% Crimean_Tatar_Steppe +25% Iraq_Jews @ 3,65535
8 50% Montenegrin +25% Crimean_Tatar_Steppe +25% Iranian_Jews @ 3,65774
9 50% Serb +25% Crimean_Tatar_Steppe +25% Iraq_Jews @ 3,709026
10 50% Montenegrin +25% Crimean_Tatar_Steppe +25% Iraq_Jews @ 3,746342
11 50% Montenegrin +25% Azerbaijan_Jews +25% Crimean_Tatar_Steppe @ 3,767947
12 50% Serb +25% Azerbaijan_Jews +25% Crimean_Tatar_Steppe @ 3,777984
13 50% Bosnian +25% Crimean_Tatar_Steppe +25% Georgia_Jews @ 3,803229
14 50% Pomak +25% Crimean_Tatar_Steppe +25% Georgia_Jews @ 3,809351
15 50% Greek_Cappadocia +25% Crimean_Tatar_Steppe +25% Swedish @ 3,811418
16 50% Slovenian +25% Crimean_Tatar_Steppe +25% Iranian_Jews @ 3,82732
17 50% Montenegrin +25% Armenian_West +25% Crimean_Tatar_Steppe @ 3,827677
18 50% Croat +25% Azerbaijan_Jews +25% Crimean_Tatar_Steppe @ 3,830299
19 50% Greek_Cappadocia +25% Crimean_Tatar_Steppe +25% PL_Warmia-Masuria @ 3,843705
20 50% Macedonian +25% Crimean_Tatar_Steppe +25% Iranian_Jews @ 3,846134
21 50% Bosnian +25% Crimean_Tatar_Steppe +25% Iranian_Jews @ 3,849203
22 50% Macedonian +25% Crimean_Tatar_Steppe +25% Iraq_Jews @ 3,892768
23 50% Bosnian +25% Crimean_Tatar_Steppe +25% Iraq_Jews @ 3,897375
24 50% Macedonian +25% Armenian_West +25% Crimean_Tatar_Steppe @ 3,904924
25 50% Slovenian +25% Crimean_Tatar_Steppe +25% Iraq_Jews @ 3,905427
26 50% Serb +25% Armenian_West +25% Crimean_Tatar_Steppe @ 3,913105
27 50% Slovenian +25% Crimean_Tatar_Steppe +25% Georgia_Jews @ 3,913414
28 50% Montenegrin +25% Crimean_Tatar_Steppe +25% Greek_Pontus @ 3,919457
29 50% Macedonian +25% Azerbaijan_Jews +25% Crimean_Tatar_Steppe @ 3,920337
30 50% Montenegrin +25% Assyrian +25% Crimean_Tatar_Steppe @ 3,925848
18124656 iterations.
Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Crimean_Tatar_Steppe+Georgia_Jews+Greek+Swedish @ 3,236178
2 Crimean_Tatar_Steppe+Georgia_Jews+German+Turk_Mace donia @ 3,241656
3 Albanian_Kosovo+Crimean_Tatar_Steppe+Georgia_Jews+ PL_GreaterPoland @ 3,242979
4 Albanian_Kosovo+Crimean_Tatar_Steppe+Georgia_Jews+ German @ 3,278798
5 Crimean_Tatar_Steppe+Georgia_Jews+Greek+PL_Greater Poland @ 3,295458
6 Crimean_Tatar_Steppe+Georgia_Jews+Greek+Sorb_Lusat ia @ 3,300737
7 Crimean_Tatar_Steppe+Georgia_Jews+Greek+PL_Warmia-Masuria @ 3,302928
8 Crimean_Tatar_Steppe+Georgia_Jews+PL_GreaterPoland +Turk_Macedonia @ 3,304053
9 Albanian_Kosovo+Crimean_Tatar_Steppe+Georgia_Jews+ Sorb_Lusatia @ 3,305868
10 Albanian_Kosovo+Crimean_Tatar_Steppe+Georgia_Jews+ Slovenian @ 3,310519
11 Albanian_Kosovo+Crimean_Tatar_Steppe+Georgia_Jews+ Hungarians @ 3,32025
12 Crimean_Tatar_Steppe+Georgia_Jews+German+Greek @ 3,325826
13 Crimean_Tatar_Steppe+Georgia_Jews+Italy_Romagna+PL _GreaterPoland @ 3,337136
14 Albanian_Kosovo+Crimean_Tatar_Steppe+Iranian_Jews+ PL_GreaterPoland @ 3,340061
15 Crimean_Tatar_Steppe+Georgia_Jews+Slovenian+Turk_M acedonia @ 3,344627
16 Crimean_Tatar_Steppe+Georgia_Jews+Sorb_Lusatia+Tur k_Macedonia @ 3,359778
17 Albanian_North+Crimean_Tatar_Steppe+Georgia_Jews+P L_GreaterPoland @ 3,360182
18 Crimean_Tatar_Steppe+Georgia_Jews+Hungarians+Turk_ Macedonia @ 3,362518
19 Bulgarians+Crimean_Tatar_Steppe+German+Iranian_Jew s @ 3,377345
20 Albanian_North+Crimean_Tatar_Steppe+Georgia_Jews+G erman @ 3,377945
21 Crimean_Tatar_Steppe+Croat+Georgia_Jews+Montenegri n @ 3,385795
22 Crimean_Tatar_Steppe+Georgia_Jews+Macedonian+Slove nian @ 3,390887
23 Crimean_Tatar_Steppe+Croat+Georgia_Jews+Macedonian @ 3,394953
24 Crimean_Tatar_Steppe+Gagauz+Georgia_Jews+German @ 3,395282
25 Albanian_Kosovo+Crimean_Tatar_Steppe+Georgia_Jews+ Slovak @ 3,396424
26 Crimean_Tatar_Steppe+Georgia_Jews+German+Pomak @ 3,40212
27 Bulgarian+Crimean_Tatar_Steppe+German+Iranian_Jews @ 3,404453
28 Albanian_North+Crimean_Tatar_Steppe+Georgia_Jews+S lovenian @ 3,404536
29 Bulgarian+Crimean_Tatar_Steppe+Georgia_Jews+German @ 3,404901
30 Crimean_Tatar_Steppe+Georgia_Jews+Pomak+Slovenian @ 3,404995
31 Albanian_Kosovo+Crimean_Tatar_Steppe+Croat+Georgia _Jews @ 3,406781
32 Albanian_Kosovo+Crimean_Tatar_Steppe+Georgia_Jews+ PL_Warmia-Masuria @ 3,410207
33 Crimean_Tatar_Steppe+Georgia_Jews+Montenegrin+Slov enian @ 3,411877
34 Crimean_Tatar_Steppe+Georgia_Jews+Greek+Norwegian @ 3,414285
35 Crimean_Tatar_Steppe+Georgia_Jews+Italy_Tuscany+PL _GreaterPoland @ 3,414966
36 Crimean_Tatar_Steppe+Greek+Iranian_Jews+Swedish @ 3,415647
37 Albanian_North+Crimean_Tatar_Steppe+Georgia_Jews+H ungarians @ 3,417897
38 Albanian_Kosovo+Crimean_Tatar_Steppe+Iraq_Jews+PL_ GreaterPoland @ 3,424347
39 Crimean_Tatar_Steppe+Greek+Iranian_Jews+PL_Greater Poland @ 3,424972
40 Crimean_Tatar_Steppe+Iraq_Jews+PL_GreaterPoland+Tu rk_Macedonia @ 3,426384
41 Crimean_Tatar_Steppe+Georgia_Jews+PL_Warmia-Masuria+Turk_Macedonia @ 3,428943
42 Crimean_Tatar_Steppe+Greek+Iranian_Jews+PL_Warmia-Masuria @ 3,42992
43 Crimean_Tatar_Steppe+Gagauz+Georgia_Jews+Slovenian @ 3,431214
44 Crimean_Tatar_Steppe+Georgia_Jews+Montenegrin+Mont enegrin @ 3,431974
45 Crimean_Tatar_Steppe+Iranian_Jews+PL_GreaterPoland +Turk_Macedonia @ 3,438191
46 Albanian_Kosovo+Crimean_Tatar_Steppe+Iranian_Jews+ Sorb_Lusatia @ 3,438665
47 Crimean_Tatar_Steppe+Georgia_Jews+Montenegrin+Serb @ 3,447357
48 Crimean_Tatar_Steppe+Croat+Georgia_Jews+Pomak @ 3,45406
49 Albanian_Kosovo+Crimean_Tatar_Steppe+Hungarians+Ir anian_Jews @ 3,454878
50 Crimean_Tatar_Steppe+German+Iranian_Jews+Turk_Mace donia @ 3,456512
51 Albanian_North+Crimean_Tatar_Steppe+Georgia_Jews+S orb_Lusatia @ 3,456938
52 Albanian_North+Crimean_Tatar_Steppe+Iranian_Jews+P L_GreaterPoland @ 3,458293
53 Albanian_Kosovo+Crimean_Tatar_Steppe+German+Irania n_Jews @ 3,459277
54 Crimean_Tatar_Steppe+Georgia_Jews+Slovak+Turk_Mace donia @ 3,462011
55 Crimean_Tatar_Steppe+Georgia_Jews+Hungarians+Maced onian @ 3,46444
56 Bulgarians+Crimean_Tatar_Steppe+Georgia_Jews+Germa n @ 3,470425
57 Crimean_Tatar_Steppe+Greek+Iranian_Jews+Sorb_Lusat ia @ 3,472811
58 Crimean_Tatar_Steppe+Georgia_Jews+Hungarians+Italy _FriuliVG @ 3,475778
59 Crimean_Tatar_Steppe+Georgia_Jews+Italy_Romagna+So rb_Lusatia @ 3,477921
60 Crimean_Tatar_Steppe+Georgia_Jews+Hungarians+Pomak @ 3,479192
477188466 iterations.
Mine:
Least-squares method.
Using 1 population approximation:
1 Turk_Bulgaria @ 5,344413
2 Turk_Greece @ 7,671692
3 R,Moldova_Gagauz @ 10,048224
4 Turk_Macedonia @ 10,351327
5 Gagauz @ 10,66421
6 Crimean_Tatar_Mountain @ 10,714533
7 R,Moldova_South @ 11,536052
8 Pomak @ 12,151856
9 Bulgarian @ 13,738397
10 Albanian_Kosovo @ 13,783653
11 Macedonian @ 13,921015
12 Crimean_Tatar_Coast @ 14,02883
13 Albanian_North @ 14,312951
14 Romanians @ 14,613494
15 Bulgarians @ 15,262499
16 Montenegrin @ 15,423188
17 Turk_Northwest @ 16,338602
18 Italy_Apulia @ 16,380973
19 Italy_Lazio @ 16,988643
20 Serb @ 17,536797
21 HUN_Szekely @ 17,795129
22 Italy_Abruzzo @ 18,323338
23 Italy_Marche @ 18,490623
24 Italy_FriuliVG @ 18,661802
25 Crimean_Tatar_Steppe @ 18,721293
26 Italy_Romagna @ 18,842378
27 Greek @ 18,900324
28 Turk_Southwest @ 19,260461
29 Turk_West_BlackSea @ 19,320293
30 Italy_Sicily @ 19,542012
335 iterations.
Using 2 populations approximation:
1 Bosnian+Yoruk @ 3,484369
2 HUN_Szekely+Turk_Northwest @ 3,595628
3 Croat+Yoruk @ 3,688648
4 HUN_Szekely+Turk_Southwest @ 3,902831
5 Bosnian+Turk_Southwest @ 3,986558
6 Bosnian+Turk_Northwest @ 4,025607
7 Serb+Yoruk @ 4,228055
8 Croat+Turk_Southwest @ 4,259539
9 Serb+Turk_Northwest @ 4,264402
10 Cypriots+Komi @ 4,292429
11 HUN_Szekely+Yoruk @ 4,325807
12 Slovenian+Turk_South @ 4,380255
13 Nusayri_Turkey+Veps @ 4,519281
14 Hungarians+Turk_South @ 4,523647
15 Slovenian+Yoruk @ 4,533316
16 Croat+Turk_Northwest @ 4,539781
17 Croat+Turk_South @ 4,619165
18 HUN_Szekely+Turk_West_BlackSea @ 4,637521
19 HUN_Szekely+Turk_South @ 4,679593
20 Greek_Cappadocia+Komi @ 4,686472
21 Komi+Nusayri_Turkey @ 4,746243
22 Serb+Turk_Southwest @ 4,770591
23 Bosnian+Turk_South @ 4,784344
24 Hungarians+Yoruk @ 4,803526
25 HUN_Szekely+Turk_Anatolia @ 4,803777
26 Slovenian+Turk_Central_Black_Sea @ 4,856266
27 Hungarians+Turk_Central_Black_Sea @ 4,947985
28 Slovak+Turk_Central_Black_Sea @ 4,950459
29 HUN_Szekely+Turk_Central_West @ 4,98133
30 Slovenian+Turk_Southwest @ 4,989122
56280 iterations.
Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Turk_Northwest +25% Italy_Sicily +25% Finnish_East @ 0,988772
2 50% Turk_Northwest +25% Italy_Calabria +25% Finnish_East @ 1,096671
3 50% Turk_Northwest +25% Italy_Campania +25% Finnish_East @ 1,103467
4 50% Turk_Northwest +25% Ashkenazi_Jews +25% Finnish_East @ 1,164577
5 50% Turk_Northwest +25% Italy_Sicily +25% Karelian @ 1,286455
6 50% Turk_Northwest +25% Finnish_East +25% MD_Jewish @ 1,320639
7 50% Turk_Southwest +25% Italy_Abruzzo +25% Finnish_East @ 1,339036
8 50% Turk_Northwest +25% Italy_Abruzzo +25% Finnish_East @ 1,4567
9 50% Turk_Northwest +25% Italy_Campania +25% Karelian @ 1,513608
10 50% Turk_Northwest +25% Ashkenazi_Jews +25% Karelian @ 1,523455
11 50% Turk_Southwest +25% Italy_Apulia +25% Finnish_East @ 1,536813
12 50% Turk_Northwest +25% Italy_Apulia +25% Finnish_East @ 1,577419
13 50% Turk_Northwest +25% Karelian +25% MD_Jewish @ 1,592803
14 50% Turk_Northwest +25% Italy_Abruzzo +25% Karelian @ 1,623729
15 50% Turk_Southwest +25% Italy_Lazio +25% Finnish_East @ 1,624147
16 50% Turk_Northwest +25% Italy_Calabria +25% Karelian @ 1,644037
17 50% Turk_Southwest +25% Italy_Sicily +25% Finnish_East @ 1,650497
18 50% Turk_Southwest +25% Italy_Marche +25% Finnish_East @ 1,662302
19 50% Turk_Southwest +25% Italy_Campania +25% Finnish_East @ 1,725924
20 50% Turk_Northwest +25% Finnish_West +25% MD_Jewish @ 1,745332
21 50% Turk_Northwest +25% Italy_Apulia +25% Karelian @ 1,750324
22 50% Turk_Southwest +25% Italy_Lazio +25% Karelian @ 1,789388
23 50% Turk_Southwest +25% Italy_Marche +25% Karelian @ 1,856843
24 50% R,Moldova_Gagauz +25% Mari +25% Nusayri_Turkey @ 1,867511
25 50% Turk_South +25% Italy_Romagna +25% Finnish_East @ 1,879963
26 50% Turk_Northwest +25% Ashkenazi_Jews +25% Finnish_West @ 1,89392
27 50% Turk_Northwest +25% Greek_Crete +25% Finnish_East @ 1,957021
28 50% Turk_Northwest +25% Italy_Lazio +25% Veps @ 1,976278
29 50% Turk_Southwest +25% Italy_Abruzzo +25% Karelian @ 1,98334
30 50% Turk_Southwest +25% Ashkenazi_Jews +25% Finnish_East @ 2,008394
10289927 iterations.
Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Italy_Sicily+Turk_Northwest+Turk_Northwest+Finnish _East @ 0,988772
2 Komi+Turk_Bulgaria+Turk_Southwest+MD_Jewish @ 1,06714
3 Italy_Calabria+Turk_Northwest+Turk_Northwest+Finni sh_East @ 1,096671
4 Italy_Campania+Turk_Northwest+Turk_Northwest+Finni sh_East @ 1,103467
5 Ashkenazi_Jews+Komi+Turk_Bulgaria+Turk_Southwest @ 1,123496
6 Italy_Sicily+Turk_Northwest+Turk_Southwest+Finnish _East @ 1,131793
7 Ashkenazi_Jews+Turk_Northwest+Turk_Northwest+Finni sh_East @ 1,164577
8 Italy_Abruzzo+Turk_Northwest+Turk_Southwest+Finnis h_East @ 1,177941
9 Gagauz+Komi+Yoruk+MD_Jewish @ 1,195732
10 Italy_Campania+Turk_Northwest+Turk_Southwest+Finni sh_East @ 1,236235
11 Greek_Crete+Komi+Pomak+Yoruk @ 1,259133
12 Ashkenazi_Jews+Gagauz+Komi+Yoruk @ 1,286416
13 Italy_Sicily+Turk_Northwest+Turk_Northwest+Karelia n @ 1,286455
14 Greek_Crete+Komi+R,Moldova_South+Yoruk @ 1,288277
15 Italy_Campania+Turk_Northwest+Yoruk+Finnish_East @ 1,312083
16 Turk_Northwest+Turk_Northwest+Finnish_East+MD_Jewi sh @ 1,320639
17 Ashkenazi_Jews+Komi+Turk_Bulgaria+Turk_Northwest @ 1,328203
18 Komi+Turk_Bulgaria+Turk_Northwest+MD_Jewish @ 1,329804
19 Italy_Abruzzo+Turk_Southwest+Turk_Southwest+Finnis h_East @ 1,339036
20 Komi+Turk_Bulgaria+Turk_West_BlackSea+MD_Jewish @ 1,345916
21 Italy_Apulia+Turk_Northwest+Turk_Southwest+Finnish _East @ 1,36201
22 Komi+Turk_Bulgaria+Turk_Central_West+MD_Jewish @ 1,390519
23 Komi+Turk_Anatolia+Turk_Bulgaria+MD_Jewish @ 1,400508
24 Ashkenazi_Jews+Komi+Turk_Bulgaria+Turk_West_BlackS ea @ 1,414768
25 Komi+R,Moldova_Gagauz+Yoruk+MD_Jewish @ 1,432459
26 Ashkenazi_Jews+Komi+Turk_Anatolia+Turk_Bulgaria @ 1,447782
27 Italy_Abruzzo+Turk_Northwest+Turk_Northwest+Finnis h_East @ 1,4567
28 Ashkenazi_Jews+Turk_Northwest+Turk_Southwest+Finni sh_East @ 1,457736
29 Ashkenazi_Jews+Komi+Turk_Bulgaria+Turk_Central_Wes t @ 1,460608
30 Pomak+Turk_West_BlackSea+Udmurt+MD_Jewish @ 1,466012
31 Ashkenazi_Jews+Komi+R,Moldova_Gagauz+Yoruk @ 1,469592
32 Greek_Crete+Komi+Turk_Bulgaria+Turk_Northwest @ 1,473273
33 Ashkenazi_Jews+Komi+Turk_Bulgaria+Turk_South @ 1,477529
34 Italy_Abruzzo+Turk_Northwest+Yoruk+Finnish_East @ 1,479602
35 Ashkenazi_Jews+Pomak+Turk_West_BlackSea+Udmurt @ 1,479749
36 Komi+Turk_Bulgaria+Turk_South+MD_Jewish @ 1,487918
37 Italy_Lazio+Turk_South+Turk_Southwest+Finnish_East @ 1,493705
38 Crimean_Tatar_Mountain+Italy_Calabria+Yoruk+Finnis h_East @ 1,497726
39 Italy_Marche+Turk_Anatolia+Yoruk+Finnish_East @ 1,497875
40 Italy_Marche+Turk_Central_West+Yoruk+Finnish_East @ 1,501167
41 HUN_Szekely+Komi+Nusayri_Turkey+Turk_Northwest @ 1,502427
42 Italy_Campania+Turk_Northwest+Turk_Northwest+Karel ian @ 1,513608
43 Italy_Marche+Turk_South+Turk_Southwest+Finnish_Eas t @ 1,515987
44 Italy_Sicily+Turk_Northwest+Turk_West_BlackSea+Fin nish_East @ 1,516026
45 Ashkenazi_Jews+Mari+Serb+Turk_Southeast @ 1,520544
46 Ashkenazi_Jews+Turk_Northwest+Turk_Northwest+Karel ian @ 1,523455
47 Italy_Lazio+Turk_Central_West+Yoruk+Finnish_East @ 1,524051
48 Gagauz+Greek_Crete+Komi+Yoruk @ 1,526877
49 Komi+R,Moldova_South+Yoruk+MD_Jewish @ 1,528701
50 Italy_Marche+Turk_Northwest+Turk_South+Finnish_Eas t @ 1,530492
51 Komi+Turk_Greece+Turk_Northwest+MD_Jewish @ 1,532723
52 Italy_Calabria+Komi+Turk_Bulgaria+Turk_Northwest @ 1,536008
53 Italy_Apulia+Turk_Southwest+Turk_Southwest+Finnish _East @ 1,536813
54 Italy_Lazio+Turk_Central_Black_Sea+Turk_Northwest+ Finnish_East @ 1,542144
55 Turk_Northwest+Turk_Southwest+Finnish_East+MD_Jewi sh @ 1,544387
56 Italy_Lazio+Turk_Anatolia+Yoruk+Finnish_East @ 1,556539
57 Ashkenazi_Jews+Komi+Turk_Bulgaria+Yoruk @ 1,569555
58 Italy_Marche+Turk_Central_Black_Sea+Turk_Northwest +Finnish_East @ 1,572336
59 Ashkenazi_Jews+Komi+Pomak+Yoruk @ 1,573572
60 Komi+Turk_Greece+Yoruk+MD_Jewish @ 1,57654
81048384 iterations.
Gaussian method.
Noise dispersion set to 0,421402
Using 1 population approximation:
1 Turk_Bulgaria @ 4,598939
2 Crimean_Tatar_Mountain @ 6,405259
3 Turk_Greece @ 6,59828
4 HUN_Szekely @ 9,071477
5 Turk_Northwest @ 9,114847
6 Crimean_Tatar_Coast @ 9,204806
7 Turk_West_BlackSea @ 9,968571
8 Turk_Southwest @ 10,660894
9 R,Moldova_Gagauz @ 10,682249
10 R,Moldova_South @ 11,234632
11 Crimean_Tatar_Steppe @ 11,596195
12 Turk_Central_West @ 11,684326
13 Yoruk @ 11,816474
14 Turk_Anatolia @ 11,825434
15 Qumuq @ 12,296146
16 Turk_Macedonia @ 12,3029
17 Gagauz @ 12,580413
18 Turk_South @ 12,789717
19 Serb @ 13,168069
20 Pomak @ 13,338145
21 Turk_Central_Black_Sea @ 13,344482
22 Turk_Central_East @ 13,352126
23 Yagnobi @ 13,620325
24 Montenegrin @ 13,854328
25 Bulgarians @ 13,981107
26 Balkar @ 14,359192
27 Karachay @ 14,396832
28 Ashkenazi_Jews @ 14,496035
29 Azerbaijani_Dagestan @ 14,778637
30 Turk_Southeast @ 14,853863
335 iterations.
Using 2 populations approximation:
1 Cypriots+Komi @ 3,049991
2 Hungarians+Yoruk @ 3,501051
3 Bosnian+Yoruk @ 3,514348
4 Cypriots+Udmurt @ 3,724196
5 Serb+Yoruk @ 3,750329
6 Montenegrin+Yoruk @ 3,793112
7 Croat+Yoruk @ 3,828812
8 Greek_Cappadocia+Komi @ 3,957915
9 Slovenian+Yoruk @ 3,981028
10 Bosnian+Turk_Northwest @ 3,994553
11 Serb+Turk_Northwest @ 4,028514
12 Cypriots+Veps @ 4,089271
13 Montenegrin+Turk_Northwest @ 4,131384
14 Romanians+Yoruk @ 4,135773
15 Bosnian+Turk_Southwest @ 4,152568
16 Greek_Crete+Komi @ 4,185224
17 Bulgarians+Yoruk @ 4,186299
18 Greek_Cappadocia+Veps @ 4,187353
19 HUN_Szekely+Turk_Northwest @ 4,192185
20 Croat+Turk_Northwest @ 4,252048
21 Serb+Turk_Southwest @ 4,265074
22 Bulgarian+Yoruk @ 4,268283
23 Hungarians+Turk_Southwest @ 4,277273
24 HUN_Szekely+Turk_West_BlackSea @ 4,310441
25 Macedonian+Yoruk @ 4,313426
26 Slovak+Yoruk @ 4,342243
27 HUN_Szekely+Turk_Southwest @ 4,348501
28 Croat+Turk_Southwest @ 4,356288
29 Hungarians+Turk_Northwest @ 4,378989
30 Hungarians+Turk_South @ 4,412819
56280 iterations.
Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Greek +25% Komi +25% Yoruk @ 2,10029
2 50% Albanian_North +25% Mari +25% Udi_Azerbaijan @ 2,373205
3 50% Crimean_Tatar_Coast +25% Yoruk +25% Finnish_West @ 2,433582
4 50% Greek +25% Udmurt +25% Yoruk @ 2,436898
5 50% Crimean_Tatar_Coast +25% Italy_Abruzzo +25% Udmurt @ 2,479786
6 50% Cypriots +25% Udmurt +25% Veps @ 2,502521
7 50% Albanian_North +25% Armenian_West +25% Mari @ 2,53123
8 50% Yoruk +25% Greek +25% Finnish_West @ 2,55183
9 50% Bulgarian +25% Iraq_Jews +25% Mari @ 2,553457
10 50% Crimean_Tatar_Coast +25% Italy_Lazio +25% Udmurt @ 2,55699
11 50% Crimean_Tatar_Coast +25% Italy_Lazio +25% Mari @ 2,569407
12 50% Crimean_Tatar_Coast +25% Italy_Abruzzo +25% Mari @ 2,590906
13 50% Albanian_North +25% Iraq_Jews +25% Mari @ 2,619909
14 50% Greek +25% Yoruk +25% Veps @ 2,621711
15 50% Montenegrin +25% Iraq_Jews +25% Mari @ 2,655579
16 50% Albanian_North +25% Azerbaijan_Jews +25% Mari @ 2,66038
17 50% Pomak +25% Armenian_West +25% Mari @ 2,710732
18 50% Albanian_North +25% Mari +25% Zaza @ 2,714016
19 50% Macedonian +25% Iraq_Jews +25% Mari @ 2,730603
20 50% Pomak +25% Iraq_Jews +25% Mari @ 2,749384
21 50% Albanian_North +25% Turk_Central_East +25% Udmurt @ 2,755503
22 50% Bulgarians +25% Iraq_Jews +25% Udmurt @ 2,758937
23 50% Albanian_North +25% Mari +25% Turk_East @ 2,760676
24 50% Albanian_North +25% Turk_Central_West +25% Udmurt @ 2,775479
25 50% Albanian_North +25% Mari +25% Turk_East_Black_Sea @ 2,776749
26 50% Albanian_North +25% Assyrian +25% Mari @ 2,796522
27 50% Cypriots +25% Mari +25% Swedish @ 2,817666
28 50% Albanian_North +25% Georgia_Jews +25% Mari @ 2,829219
29 50% Albanian_Kosovo +25% Komi +25% Yoruk @ 2,839438
30 50% Albanian_North +25% Iranian_Jews +25% Mari @ 2,850139
17950746 iterations.
Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Cypriots+Hungarians+Komi+Yoruk @ 1,19183
2 Cypriots+German+Komi+Yoruk @ 1,596796
3 Bosnian+Cypriots+Komi+Yoruk @ 1,602259
4 Bavarian_German+Cypriots+Komi+Yoruk @ 1,783203
5 Cypriots+Komi+Montenegrin+Yoruk @ 1,791933
6 Cypriots+Komi+Slovenian+Yoruk @ 1,834209
7 Cypriots+Hungarians+Udmurt+Yoruk @ 1,870658
8 Cypriots+Komi+Serb+Yoruk @ 1,913804
9 Croat+Cypriots+Komi+Yoruk @ 1,927437
10 Cypriots+German+Udmurt+Yoruk @ 2,014998
11 Greek_Cappadocia+Komi+Montenegrin+Yoruk @ 2,020722
12 Greek_Cappadocia+Montenegrin+Yoruk+Veps @ 2,032912
13 Bosnian+Cypriots+Yoruk+Veps @ 2,036715
14 Bulgarians+Italy_Lazio+Mari+Udi_Azerbaijan @ 2,040182
15 Cypriots+Komi+Slovak+Yoruk @ 2,049904
16 Bulgarian+Italy_Lazio+Mari+Udi_Azerbaijan @ 2,056768
17 Azerbaijan_Jews+Hungarians+Italy_Abruzzo+Mari @ 2,060364
18 Cypriots+Hungarians+Yoruk+Veps @ 2,065482
19 Bulgarian+Iraq_Jews+Italy_FriuliVG+Mari @ 2,091241
20 Cypriots+Montenegrin+Yoruk+Veps @ 2,091923
21 Iraq_Jews+Italy_FriuliVG+Mari+Romanians @ 2,096952
22 Greek+Greek+Komi+Yoruk @ 2,10029
23 Cypriots+Komi+PL_GreaterPoland+Yoruk @ 2,102266
24 Greek+Komi+Turk_Macedonia+Yoruk @ 2,108705
25 Bulgarian+Greek_Cappadocia+Yoruk+Finnish_West @ 2,112007
26 Albanian_North+Greek+Komi+Yoruk @ 2,117504
27 Bulgarian+France_Corsica+Mari+Udi_Azerbaijan @ 2,125069
28 Albanian_Kosovo+Greek+Komi+Yoruk @ 2,126494
29 Greek_Cappadocia+Italy_FriuliVG+Yoruk+Veps @ 2,129023
30 Cypriots+Komi+Romanians+Yoruk @ 2,138595
31 Bulgarians+Greek_Cappadocia+Yoruk+Finnish_West @ 2,138678
32 Cypriots+Komi+Sorb_Lusatia+Yoruk @ 2,138986
33 Armenian_West+Hungarians+Italy_Abruzzo+Mari @ 2,139822
34 Bosnian+Greek_Cappadocia+Komi+Yoruk @ 2,148189
35 Cypriots+Komi+Macedonian+Yoruk @ 2,165201
36 Iraq_Jews+Italy_Veneto+Mari+Romanians @ 2,166034
37 Greek_Cappadocia+Italy_FriuliVG+Komi+Yoruk @ 2,169787
38 Greek_Cappadocia+Hungarians+Komi+Yoruk @ 2,174437
39 Gagauz+Greek+Komi+Yoruk @ 2,185806
40 Bulgarian+Italy_Romagna+Mari+Udi_Azerbaijan @ 2,195817
41 Bulgarians+Italy_Abruzzo+Mari+Udi_Azerbaijan @ 2,198085
42 Cypriots+Serb+Yoruk+Veps @ 2,208084
43 Azerbaijan_Jews+Hungarians+Italy_Lazio+Mari @ 2,210545
44 Bulgarian+Iraq_Jews+Italy_Veneto+Mari @ 2,213986
45 Italy_Lazio+Mari+Romanians+Udi_Azerbaijan @ 2,216869
46 Bulgarian+Iraq_Jews+Mari+Swiss_Italian @ 2,219021
47 Armenian_West+Italy_Lazio+Mari+Romanians @ 2,219374
48 Bulgarian+Greek+Komi+Yoruk @ 2,22057
49 Bulgarian+Cypriots+Komi+Yoruk @ 2,223305
50 Bulgarians+Iraq_Jews+Italy_FriuliVG+Mari @ 2,223894
51 Bulgarians+France_Corsica+Mari+Udi_Azerbaijan @ 2,224079
52 Cypriots+Hungarians+Turk_Central_West+Udmurt @ 2,229835
53 Albanian_North+Iraq_Jews+Mari+Romanians @ 2,231796
54 Cypriots+Italy_FriuliVG+Komi+Yoruk @ 2,23324
55 Greek_Cappadocia+Italy_Abruzzo+Mari+Romanians @ 2,234405
56 Bavarian_German+Cypriots+Yoruk+Veps @ 2,236936
57 Bosnian+Greek_Cappadocia+Yoruk+Veps @ 2,238362
58 Greek_Cappadocia+Komi+Serb+Yoruk @ 2,238941
59 Italy_Abruzzo+Mari+Romanians+Udi_Azerbaijan @ 2,239097
60 Albanian_North+Greek+Udmurt+Yoruk @ 2,240901
463022279 iterations.
Kaspias
09-03-2020, 10:25 AM
I find this friend of Kaspias interesting
Target: Kaspias_friend
Distance: 2.0257% / 2.02573540 | ADC: 0.25x
36.2 Bulgarian
28.0 Nogais
17.4 Qumuq
17.2 Turk_Bulgaria
1.2 Mordovian
I also remember the 9% EE was visible in her looks.
Yes, she could pass as a full Tatar.
4-Oracle with updated datasheet:
Least-squares method.
Using 1 population approximation:
1 Crimean_Tatar_Mountain @ 9,272018
2 Turk_Bulgaria @ 10,410814
3 Turk_Greece @ 12,273777
4 Crimean_Tatar_Coast @ 13,257647
5 Turk_Macedonia @ 13,264928
6 R,Moldova_Gagauz @ 14,179402
7 Gagauz @ 14,284338
8 Bulgarian @ 14,687538
9 Pomak @ 15,78803
10 R,Moldova_South @ 16,083111
11 Turk_Northwest @ 16,097457
12 Bulgarians @ 16,197517
13 Romanians @ 16,307339
14 Qumuq @ 16,318764
15 Nogais @ 17,446272
16 Macedonian @ 17,965216
17 Turk_West_BlackSea @ 17,968437
18 Albanian_Kosovo @ 18,104446
19 Albanian_North @ 18,410898
20 Turk_Southwest @ 18,531991
21 Avar_Dagestan @ 19,041169
22 Balkar @ 19,381585
23 Karachay @ 19,417203
24 Italy_Apulia @ 19,452484
25 Montenegrin @ 19,588687
26 Tabasaran @ 20,110675
27 Yoruk @ 20,15495
28 Greek @ 20,208853
29 Turk_Anatolia @ 20,56204
30 Turk_Central_West @ 20,659449
335 iterations.
Using 2 populations approximation:
1 Nogais+Pomak @ 3,379558
2 Bulgarian+Nogais @ 3,863469
3 Nogais+Romanians @ 3,915042
4 Macedonian+Nogais @ 4,063712
5 Gagauz+Nogais @ 4,201324
6 Nogais+R,Moldova_South @ 4,222414
7 Balkar+HUN_Szekely @ 4,25992
8 HUN_Szekely+Kumyks @ 4,306472
9 Montenegrin+Nogais @ 4,488677
10 Balkar+Serb @ 4,532456
11 Turk_East_Black_Sea+Veps @ 4,556332
12 Nogais+R,Moldova_Gagauz @ 4,629226
13 HUN_Szekely+Karachay @ 4,662772
14 Hemshin+Veps @ 4,669541
15 Laz+Veps @ 4,680301
16 Greek_Pontus+Veps @ 4,687462
17 Bosnian+Karachay @ 4,745822
18 Kumyks+Serb @ 4,760666
19 Bulgarians+Nogais @ 4,823109
20 Karachay+Serb @ 4,827412
21 Bulgarians+Qumuq @ 4,839671
22 Balkar+Bosnian @ 4,858965
23 Bosnian+Kumyks @ 4,94046
24 HUN_Szekely+Ossetian @ 4,951557
25 Circassian+HUN_Szekely @ 5,052389
26 Balkar+Montenegrin @ 5,067926
27 Croat+Kumyks @ 5,162279
28 Bulgarian+Qumuq @ 5,166438
29 Georgian_Adjara+Veps @ 5,194237
30 Qumuq+Romanians @ 5,22191
56280 iterations.
Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Bulgarian +25% Nogais +25% Qumuq @ 2,281973
2 50% Romanians +25% Nogais +25% Qumuq @ 2,386653
3 50% Pomak +25% Crimean_Tatar_Steppe +25% North_Ossetians @ 2,589943
4 50% Pomak +25% Balkar +25% Nogais @ 2,702045
5 50% Bulgarian +25% Crimean_Tatar_Steppe +25% North_Ossetians @ 2,776611
6 50% Bulgarians +25% Nogais +25% Qumuq @ 2,782186
7 50% Pomak +25% Nogais +25% Qumuq @ 2,817039
8 50% Bulgarians +25% Nogais +25% Tabasaran @ 2,869028
9 50% Bulgarian +25% Crimean_Tatar_Steppe +25% Kumyks @ 2,875018
10 50% Serb +25% Kumyks +25% Nogais @ 2,909816
11 50% Montenegrin +25% Kumyks +25% Nogais @ 2,918973
12 50% Bulgarian +25% Nogais +25% Tabasaran @ 2,926357
13 50% Pomak +25% Chechen +25% Nogais @ 2,973713
14 50% Pomak +25% Kumyks +25% Nogais @ 2,988831
15 50% Bulgarians +25% Avar +25% Nogais @ 3,055627
16 50% Nogais +25% Greek_Crete +25% PL_Mazovia @ 3,062067
17 50% Bulgarian +25% Avar_Dagestan +25% Nogais @ 3,068329
18 50% Bulgarians +25% Lezgin +25% Nogais @ 3,072148
19 50% Romanians +25% Lezgin +25% Nogais @ 3,075314
20 50% Pomak +25% Karachay +25% Nogais @ 3,077921
21 50% Romanians +25% Crimean_Tatar_Steppe +25% North_Ossetians @ 3,094153
22 50% Turk_Northwest +25% North_Ossetians +25% Estonian @ 3,103713
23 50% Bulgarian +25% Avar +25% Nogais @ 3,106706
24 50% Karachay +25% Greek +25% Veps @ 3,107504
25 50% Nogais +25% Belorussian +25% Greek_Crete @ 3,132642
26 50% Bosnian +25% Abkhazian +25% Nogais @ 3,133085
27 50% Bosnian +25% North_Ossetians +25% Yoruk @ 3,143734
28 50% Bosnian +25% Nogais +25% Turk_Ahiska @ 3,151573
29 50% Karachay +25% Ashkenazi_Jews +25% Karelian @ 3,167398
30 50% Serb +25% Circassian +25% Nogais @ 3,168274
10379593 iterations.
Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Greek_Crete+Karachay+Nogais+Lithuanian @ 1,866327
2 Crimean_Tatar_Mountain+Greek_Cappadocia+Nogais+Lit huanian @ 1,947464
3 Nogais+Rus_Kostroma+Turk_Bulgaria+Turk_East_Black_ Sea @ 1,94981
4 Belorussian+Nogais+Turk_Bulgaria+Turk_East_Black_S ea @ 1,965787
5 Nogais+Turk_East_Black_Sea+Turk_Greece+Lithuanian @ 1,995779
6 Crimean_Tatar_Coast+Crimean_Tatar_Steppe+Georgian_ Mingrelian+Rus_Kostroma @ 2,008537
7 Crimean_Tatar_Coast+Crimean_Tatar_Steppe+Georgian_ Mingrelian+PL_Mazovia @ 2,018818
8 Belorussian+Crimean_Tatar_Coast+Crimean_Tatar_Step pe+Georgian_Mingrelian @ 2,02463
9 Nogais+PL_Mazovia+Turk_Bulgaria+Turk_East_Black_Se a @ 2,027323
10 Ashkenazi_Jews+Belorussian+Kumyks+Nogais @ 2,072706
11 Italy_Calabria+Karachay+Nogais+Lithuanian @ 2,079845
12 Crimean_Tatar_Steppe+Greek_Cappadocia+North_Osseti ans+Estonian @ 2,105452
13 Crimean_Tatar_Mountain+Greek_Pontus+Nogais+Latvian @ 2,1116
14 Ashkenazi_Jews+Circassian+Nogais+Lithuanian @ 2,11321
15 Ashkenazi_Jews+Balkar+Belorussian+Nogais @ 2,122386
16 Bosnian+Kumyks+Nogais+Pomak @ 2,128856
17 Belorussian+Italy_Apulia+Kumyks+Nogais @ 2,134106
18 Ashkenazi_Jews+Balkar+Nogais+PL_Mazovia @ 2,1415
19 Crimean_Tatar_Steppe+Greek_Crete+North_Ossetians+P L_Mazovia @ 2,145987
20 Belorussian+Nogais+Turk_Ahiska+Turk_Bulgaria @ 2,147234
21 Nogais+PL_Mazovia+Turk_Ahiska+Turk_Bulgaria @ 2,151352
22 Balkar+Belorussian+Greek_Crete+Nogais @ 2,151717
23 Ashkenazi_Jews+Nogais+Ossetian+Lithuanian @ 2,151854
24 Ashkenazi_Jews+Kumyks+Nogais+PL_Mazovia @ 2,157931
25 Belorussian+Nogais+Turk_Ahiska+Turk_Greece @ 2,166198
26 Italy_Apulia+Kumyks+Nogais+PL_Mazovia @ 2,168276
27 Circassian+Italy_Calabria+Nogais+Lithuanian @ 2,175416
28 Greek+Kumyks+Nogais+Ukrainian @ 2,176793
29 Greek_Crete+Karachay+Nogais+Estonian @ 2,17784
30 Ashkenazi_Jews+Karachay+Nogais+Lithuanian @ 2,177926
31 Crimean_Tatar_Coast+Crimean_Tatar_Steppe+Georgian_ Gurian+Rus_Kostroma @ 2,181484
32 Hemshin+Nogais+Turk_Greece+Lithuanian @ 2,181755
33 Italy_Calabria+Nogais+Ossetian+Lithuanian @ 2,185595
34 Balkar+Italy_Apulia+Nogais+PL_Mazovia @ 2,186139
35 Balkar+Nogais+PL_Mazovia+MD_Jewish @ 2,188373
36 Circassian+Italy_Campania+Nogais+Lithuanian @ 2,190871
37 Belorussian+Kumyks+Nogais+MD_Jewish @ 2,191008
38 Crimean_Tatar_Mountain+Nogais+Turk_East_Black_Sea+ Latvian @ 2,194784
39 Balkar+Belorussian+Nogais+MD_Jewish @ 2,195556
40 Crimean_Tatar_Coast+Crimean_Tatar_Steppe+Georgian_ Svan+PL_Mazovia @ 2,1969
41 Nogais+Turk_Ahiska+Turk_Bulgaria+Ukrainian @ 2,197974
42 Italy_Calabria+Kumyks+Nogais+Lithuanian @ 2,198412
43 Crimean_Tatar_Coast+Crimean_Tatar_Steppe+Hungarian s+North_Ossetians @ 2,199152
44 Crimean_Tatar_Mountain+Greek_Cappadocia+Nogais+Lat vian @ 2,203025
45 Balkar+Italy_Apulia+Nogais+Ukrainian @ 2,209928
46 Balkar+Greek_Crete+Nogais+Estonian @ 2,214051
47 Belorussian+North_Ossetians+Turk_Greece+Yoruk @ 2,214668
48 Nogais+Rus_Kostroma+Turk_Ahiska+Turk_Greece @ 2,215089
49 Balkar+Italy_Calabria+Nogais+Lithuanian @ 2,216043
50 Balkar+Belorussian+Italy_Apulia+Nogais @ 2,216133
51 Greek+Nogais+Turk_Ahiska+Karelian @ 2,21638
52 Belorussian+Hemshin+Nogais+Turk_Bulgaria @ 2,216776
53 Crimean_Tatar_Coast+Nogais+Turk_East+Lithuanian @ 2,229361
54 Italy_Campania+Nogais+Ossetian+Lithuanian @ 2,229886
55 Crimean_Tatar_Steppe+Greek_Cappadocia+North_Osseti ans+Lithuanian @ 2,23323
56 Greek+North_Ossetians+Yoruk+Karelian @ 2,236623
57 Bulgarian+Nogais+Qumuq+Romanians @ 2,242879
58 Laz+Nogais+Turk_Greece+Lithuanian @ 2,243683
59 Crimean_Tatar_Coast+Crimean_Tatar_Steppe+Georgian_ Gurian+PL_Mazovia @ 2,246035
60 Kumyks+Nogais+PL_Mazovia+MD_Jewish @ 2,246794
69955552 iterations.
Gaussian method.
Noise dispersion set to 0,421402
Using 1 population approximation:
1 Crimean_Tatar_Mountain @ 6,342386
2 Turk_Bulgaria @ 6,878259
3 Turk_Greece @ 7,347926
4 Qumuq @ 7,434242
5 Crimean_Tatar_Coast @ 7,922366
6 Karachay @ 8,90145
7 Balkar @ 9,168418
8 Turk_Northwest @ 9,172675
9 Turk_West_BlackSea @ 9,529062
10 HUN_Szekely @ 9,774978
11 Ossetian @ 10,038633
12 Ingush @ 10,160668
13 Turk_Southwest @ 10,300503
14 Circassian @ 10,313349
15 Chechen @ 10,491059
16 Yagnobi @ 10,512566
17 Crimean_Tatar_Steppe @ 10,553509
18 Turk_Central_West @ 10,99675
19 Turk_Anatolia @ 11,038684
20 Yoruk @ 11,137338
21 Azerbaijani_Dagestan @ 11,219572
22 Kumyks @ 11,639504
23 Turk_South @ 11,778422
24 R,Moldova_Gagauz @ 11,808558
25 R,Moldova_South @ 11,946981
26 Turk_Central_Black_Sea @ 11,962681
27 Tajik_Tajikistan @ 12,134092
28 Turk_Central_East @ 12,168071
29 Lezgin @ 12,307888
30 Pamiri_Rushan @ 12,410938
335 iterations.
Using 2 populations approximation:
1 Bulgarian+Nogais @ 4,592368
2 Nogais+Romanians @ 4,632322
3 Bulgarians+Nogais @ 4,734602
4 Montenegrin+Nogais @ 4,750415
5 Macedonian+Nogais @ 4,75788
6 Turk_East_Black_Sea+Veps @ 4,762116
7 Bulgarians+Kumyks @ 4,804902
8 Nogais+Pomak @ 4,83775
9 Hungarians+Kumyks @ 4,847689
10 Gagauz+Nogais @ 4,861084
11 Albanian_Kosovo+Nogais @ 4,911472
12 HUN_Szekely+Kumyks @ 4,94794
13 Nogais+Turk_Macedonia @ 4,973518
14 Bulgarians+Qumuq @ 4,97755
15 Balkar+Bulgarians @ 4,982665
16 Nogais+R,Moldova_South @ 5,025667
17 Albanian_North+Nogais @ 5,051031
18 Georgian_Turkey+Veps @ 5,053959
19 Nogais+Serb @ 5,110994
20 Balkar+HUN_Szekely @ 5,118754
21 Kumyks+Montenegrin @ 5,119093
22 Kumyks+Serb @ 5,121246
23 Georgian_Adjara+Veps @ 5,125187
24 Kumyks+Romanians @ 5,126731
25 Bulgarians+Karachay @ 5,137112
26 Bulgarian+Kumyks @ 5,203823
27 Balkar+Hungarians @ 5,217812
28 Croat+Kumyks @ 5,219143
29 Bosnian+Kumyks @ 5,223713
30 Laz+Veps @ 5,235274
56280 iterations.
Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Hungarians +25% Georgian_Turkey +25% Nogais @ 3,518784
2 50% Hungarians +25% Georgian_Adjara +25% Nogais @ 3,602902
3 50% Bulgarians +25% Nogais +25% Qumuq @ 3,633792
4 50% Hungarians +25% Laz +25% Nogais @ 3,679113
5 50% Hungarians +25% Georgian_Imereti +25% Nogais @ 3,700703
6 50% Hungarians +25% Nogais +25% Turk_East_Black_Sea @ 3,789807
7 50% Romanians +25% Nogais +25% Qumuq @ 3,803631
8 50% Bulgarians +25% Chechen +25% Nogais @ 3,809733
9 50% Bulgarian +25% Nogais +25% Qumuq @ 3,822176
10 50% Hungarians +25% Greek_Pontus +25% Nogais @ 3,858693
11 50% Hungarians +25% Hemshin +25% Nogais @ 3,866298
12 50% Hungarians +25% Georgian_Gurian +25% Nogais @ 3,889782
13 50% Hungarians +25% Georgian_Mingrelian +25% Nogais @ 3,907145
14 50% Bulgarians +25% Lak +25% Nogais @ 3,907181
15 50% Hungarians +25% Nogais +25% Turk_Ahiska @ 3,919099
16 50% Bulgarians +25% Kumyks +25% Nogais @ 3,919547
17 50% Crimean_Tatar_Coast +25% Nogais +25% PL_Mazovia @ 3,920515
18 50% Crimean_Tatar_Coast +25% Hungarians +25% Nogais @ 3,923174
19 50% Crimean_Tatar_Coast +25% Nogais +25% Lithuanian @ 3,933543
20 50% Crimean_Tatar_Coast +25% Nogais +25% PL_GreaterPoland @ 3,937331
21 50% Bulgarians +25% Avar_Dagestan +25% Nogais @ 3,95117
22 50% Hungarians +25% Georgian_Svan +25% Nogais @ 3,974497
23 50% Romanians +25% Kumyks +25% Nogais @ 3,977425
24 50% Romanians +25% Chechen +25% Nogais @ 3,9839
25 50% Bulgarian +25% Chechen +25% Nogais @ 3,998252
26 50% Bulgarians +25% Dargin +25% Nogais @ 4,019657
27 50% Crimean_Tatar_Coast +25% Belorussian +25% Nogais @ 4,030031
28 50% Crimean_Tatar_Coast +25% North_Ossetians +25% Veps @ 4,037871
29 50% Crimean_Tatar_Coast +25% Nogais +25% Ukrainian @ 4,03893
30 50% Montenegrin +25% Nogais +25% North_Ossetians @ 4,040874
16916416 iterations.
Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Georgian_Turkey+Hungarians+Hungarians+Nogais @ 3,518784
2 Georgian_Adjara+Hungarians+Hungarians+Nogais @ 3,602902
3 Bulgarians+Georgian_Turkey+Nogais+PL_GreaterPoland @ 3,632766
4 Bulgarians+Bulgarians+Nogais+Qumuq @ 3,633792
5 Bulgarians+Georgian_Turkey+Nogais+PL_Warmia-Masuria @ 3,638533
6 Crimean_Tatar_Coast+Hungarians+Nogais+Qumuq @ 3,658165
7 Bulgarians+Georgian_Turkey+Hungarians+Nogais @ 3,659715
8 Hungarians+Hungarians+Laz+Nogais @ 3,679113
9 Bulgarians+Georgian_Turkey+Nogais+Swedish @ 3,682299
10 Crimean_Tatar_Coast+Georgian_Turkey+Nogais+Finnish _West @ 3,690277
11 Georgian_Imereti+Hungarians+Hungarians+Nogais @ 3,700703
12 Bulgarians+Georgian_Turkey+Nogais+PL_Mazovia @ 3,70481
13 Bulgarians+Georgian_Turkey+Nogais+Lithuanian @ 3,717963
14 Bulgarian+Bulgarians+Nogais+Qumuq @ 3,719991
15 Bulgarians+Georgian_Turkey+German+Nogais @ 3,722575
16 Bulgarians+Georgian_Adjara+Nogais+PL_GreaterPoland @ 3,722948
17 Greek+Hungarians+Nogais+Qumuq @ 3,725436
18 Bulgarians+Georgian_Adjara+Nogais+PL_Warmia-Masuria @ 3,726633
19 Bulgarians+Georgian_Imereti+Hungarians+Nogais @ 3,72711
20 Chechen+Crimean_Tatar_Coast+Hungarians+Nogais @ 3,730963
21 Crimean_Tatar_Coast+Hungarians+Kumyks+Nogais @ 3,734165
22 Bulgarians+Georgian_Svan+Hungarians+Nogais @ 3,735161
23 Greek+Kumyks+Nogais+PL_GreaterPoland @ 3,736538
24 Bulgarians+Nogais+Qumuq+Romanians @ 3,745587
25 Bulgarians+Georgian_Imereti+Nogais+PL_GreaterPolan d @ 3,746918
26 Crimean_Tatar_Coast+Georgian_Imereti+Nogais+Finnis h_West @ 3,747999
27 Crimean_Tatar_Coast+Georgian_Svan+Nogais+Swedish @ 3,75186
28 Crimean_Tatar_Coast+Georgian_Turkey+Nogais+Lithuan ian @ 3,752
29 Bulgarians+Georgian_Adjara+Nogais+Lithuanian @ 3,756193
30 Crimean_Tatar_Coast+Laz+Nogais+Finnish_West @ 3,760184
31 Georgian_Turkey+Hungarians+Nogais+Romanians @ 3,761105
32 Crimean_Tatar_Coast+German+Nogais+North_Ossetians @ 3,761694
33 Greek+Hungarians+Kumyks+Nogais @ 3,763906
34 Bulgarians+Georgian_Imereti+Nogais+PL_Warmia-Masuria @ 3,765093
35 Bulgarians+Georgian_Adjara+Hungarians+Nogais @ 3,766488
36 Crimean_Tatar_Coast+Kumyks+Nogais+PL_GreaterPoland @ 3,76698
37 Bulgarians+Georgian_Turkey+Nogais+Finnish_West @ 3,768238
38 Bulgarians+Georgian_Adjara+Nogais+PL_Mazovia @ 3,769911
39 Bulgarian+Georgian_Turkey+Nogais+PL_Warmia-Masuria @ 3,77097
40 Greek+Nogais+North_Ossetians+Swedish @ 3,772082
41 Crimean_Tatar_Coast+Georgian_Adjara+Nogais+Finnish _West @ 3,772624
42 Georgian_Turkey+Nogais+PL_GreaterPoland+Romanians @ 3,772835
43 Greek+Nogais+North_Ossetians+PL_GreaterPoland @ 3,775192
44 Bulgarian+Georgian_Turkey+Nogais+PL_GreaterPoland @ 3,776858
45 Greek+Nogais+North_Ossetians+PL_Warmia-Masuria @ 3,778131
46 Bulgarians+Georgian_Turkey+Nogais+Ukrainian @ 3,78053
47 Crimean_Tatar_Coast+Hungarians+Nogais+North_Osseti ans @ 3,780606
48 Georgian_Turkey+Hungarians+Nogais+PL_GreaterPoland @ 3,781574
49 Belorussian+Bulgarians+Georgian_Turkey+Nogais @ 3,783229
50 Bulgarians+Laz+Nogais+PL_GreaterPoland @ 3,785286
51 Bulgarians+Georgian_Adjara+Nogais+Swedish @ 3,7863
52 Crimean_Tatar_Coast+Nogais+Turk_East_Black_Sea+Lit huanian @ 3,787387
53 Greek_Cappadocia+Nogais+North_Ossetians+Swedish @ 3,788036
54 German+Greek+Nogais+North_Ossetians @ 3,789669
55 Greek+Kumyks+Nogais+PL_Warmia-Masuria @ 3,789687
56 Hungarians+Hungarians+Nogais+Turk_East_Black_Sea @ 3,789807
57 Bulgarians+Georgian_Imereti+German+Nogais @ 3,790354
58 Bulgarian+Georgian_Turkey+Hungarians+Nogais @ 3,791218
59 Chechen+Greek+Hungarians+Nogais @ 3,791646
60 Crimean_Tatar_Coast+Georgian_Adjara+Nogais+Lithuan ian @ 3,7924
394068063 iterations.
Some new ones I've managed to fish out
Georgians (two close relatives)
Y: J21b*
mt: I1
Gedrosia 20.15 Pct
Siberian 0.20 Pct
Northwest_African -
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 5.03 Pct
North_European 12.63 Pct
South_Asian -
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 7.70 Pct
East_Asian -
Caucasus 54.29 Pct
Sub_Saharan -
Distance to: *rarikola
3.50002857 Abkhazian
5.49427884 Georgian_Gurian
5.71562770 Turk_Ahiska
6.39520133 Georgian_Svan
7.22180725 Georgian_Imereti
8.08158400 Georgian_Mingrelian
8.86380280 Georgian_Turkey
9.52704571 Circassian
9.96291624 Ossetian
10.03367829 Georgian_Adjara
Target: *rarikola
Distance: 2.2394% / 2.23940445 | ADC: 0.5x
74.8 Abkhazian
18.6 Turk_Ahiska
6.6 Udi_Azerbaijan
Target: *rarikola
Distance: 1.5828% / 1.58279017 | ADC: 0.25x
43.6 Abkhazian
25.8 Georgian_Gurian
22.2 Turk_Ahiska
4.4 Tabasaran
3.0 Lezgin
1.0 Saudis
Target: *rarikola
Distance: 0.8129% / 0.81285717
67.0 Georgian_Gurian
16.0 Dargin
7.8 Georgia_Jews
7.2 Georgian_Imereti
1.8 Saudis
0.2 Lezgin
Gedrosia 20.89 Pct
Siberian 0.77 Pct
Northwest_African -
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 5.44 Pct
North_European 10.43 Pct
South_Asian 0.51 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 6.68 Pct
East_Asian -
Caucasus 55.27 Pct
Sub_Saharan -
Distance to: Shorena
3.53101968 Abkhazian
4.45652331 Georgian_Gurian
5.08813325 Turk_Ahiska
5.27054077 Georgian_Imereti
5.33586919 Georgian_Svan
6.52584860 Georgian_Mingrelian
6.71348643 Georgian_Turkey
7.87297911 Georgian_Adjara
8.71341494 Laz
9.26410816 Hemshin
Target: Shorena
Distance: 1.9799% / 1.97988964 | ADC: 1x
70.6 Abkhazian
27.8 Turk_Ahiska
1.6 Georgian_Imereti
Target: Shorena
Distance: 1.5986% / 1.59860058 | ADC: 0.5x
57.0 Abkhazian
30.2 Turk_Ahiska
12.2 Georgian_Imereti
0.6 Iran_Mazandaran
Target: Shorena
Distance: 0.9397% / 0.93966753 | ADC: 0.25x
48.4 Abkhazian
22.6 Georgian_Imereti
21.8 Turk_Ahiska
5.4 Georgian_Gurian
1.8 Brahui
Chechen
Gedrosia 21.83 Pct
Siberian 1.52 Pct
Northwest_African -
Southeast_Asian 0.15 Pct
Atlantic_Med 3.87 Pct
North_European 22.52 Pct
South_Asian 0.77 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 4.79 Pct
East_Asian 1.43 Pct
Caucasus 43.12 Pct
Sub_Saharan -
Distance to: Batyr
2.66792054 Chechen
5.19438158 Ingush
6.41789685 Kumyks
6.53107954 Balkar
7.59160062 Qumuq
7.84928022 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
8.17165834 Karachay
8.22809820 Circassian
8.33525045 Lezgin
8.38945171 Avar_Dagestan
Target: Batyr
Distance: 2.0971% / 2.09705868 | ADC: 0.5x
98.6 Chechen
1.4 Saudis
Target: Batyr
Distance: 1.7962% / 1.79616081 | ADC: 0.25x
93.8 Chechen
2.4 North_Ossetians
2.2 Saudis
1.0 Tabasaran
0.6 Lithuanian
Peterski
09-04-2020, 07:40 AM
Test these three Kuwait averages:
KuwaitAvg,5.56,0.60,3.84,0.49,5.45,1.03,1.32,4.88, 47.96,0.25,27.16,1.47
Kuwait1,7.11,0.69,4.10,0.57,5.49,1.31,1.64,5.48,43 .65,0.25,27.62,2.09
Kuwait2,2.37,0.42,3.30,0.31,5.36,0.45,0.67,3.65,56 .80,0.26,26.23,0.19
Test these three Kuwait averages:
KuwaitAvg,5.56,0.60,3.84,0.49,5.45,1.03,1.32,4.88, 47.96,0.25,27.16,1.47
Kuwait1,7.11,0.69,4.10,0.57,5.49,1.31,1.64,5.48,43 .65,0.25,27.62,2.09
Kuwait2,2.37,0.42,3.30,0.31,5.36,0.45,0.67,3.65,56 .80,0.26,26.23,0.19
Distance to: KuwaitAvg
6.94073483 Bedouin
10.66464252 Yemen_Jews
14.62903278 Yemenese
21.38136338 Saudis
21.67311930 Palestinian
22.07217932 Egyptans
23.97510792 Jordanians
24.95232454 Syrians
27.87199132 Samaritians
29.79157263 Lebanese
33.82829880 Iraq_Jews
34.65678433 Druze
35.35172556 Nusayri_Turkey
36.80276892 Iranian_Jews
38.13545725 Turkmen_Iraq
38.38929278 Uzbekistan_Jews
38.62967642 Assyrian
39.34186320 Morocco_Jews
39.66490388 Kurd_Sorani
39.89967293 Turk_Southeast
40.34986989 Sephardic_Jews
40.71107220 Georgia_Jews
41.00808945 Cypriots
41.69904795 Greek_Crete
41.78112612 Turk_South
Target: KuwaitAvg
Distance: 1.4873% / 1.48728404 | ADC: 0.25x
70.4 Bedouin
24.2 Saudis
3.4 Yemenese
1.0 Brahmins_from_Uttaranchal
0.4 Brahmins_from_Uttar_Pradesh
0.4 Kanjars
0.2 Selkup
Distance to: Kuwait2
8.73024055 Yemen_Jews
12.94139096 Saudis
15.09435325 Bedouin
23.18150772 Yemenese
30.01017161 Palestinian
30.27143208 Egyptans
32.65549724 Jordanians
33.47140869 Syrians
34.08942945 Samaritians
38.26125325 Lebanese
41.63526750 Iraq_Jews
42.18045756 Druze
43.64142757 Nusayri_Turkey
44.68858355 Iranian_Jews
46.77020847 Assyrian
46.84593365 Uzbekistan_Jews
46.85980260 Morocco_Jews
47.01820711 Turkmen_Iraq
47.91422649 Sephardic_Jews
48.32628788 Cypriots
48.54412735 Kurd_Sorani
48.58985388 Georgia_Jews
48.76509817 Turk_Southeast
49.53293349 Greek_Crete
49.62871447 MD_Jewish
Distance to: Kuwait1
5.08935163 Bedouin
10.95280329 Yemenese
14.13514415 Yemen_Jews
17.94377329 Palestinian
18.44535172 Egyptans
19.91952560 Jordanians
21.01429038 Syrians
25.52920680 Samaritians
25.82958575 Lebanese
25.87210853 Saudis
30.29236703 Iraq_Jews
31.30143447 Druze
31.46870191 Nusayri_Turkey
33.18134265 Iranian_Jews
33.82839044 Turkmen_Iraq
34.37099795 Uzbekistan_Jews
34.82278277 Assyrian
35.35497278 Kurd_Sorani
35.59807017 Turk_Southeast
35.94122007 Morocco_Jews
36.90894607 Sephardic_Jews
37.06005262 Georgia_Jews
37.53866806 Turk_South
37.56542826 Kurd_Kurmanji
37.62152841 Turk_Central_West
Target: Kuwait1
Distance: 1.5832% / 1.58315584 | ADC: 0.25x
71.2 Bedouin
12.4 Saudis
12.0 Yemenese
3.8 Burusho
0.6 Kho
Distance to: Kuwait2
8.73024055 Yemen_Jews
12.94139096 Saudis
15.09435325 Bedouin
23.18150772 Yemenese
30.01017161 Palestinian
30.27143208 Egyptans
32.65549724 Jordanians
33.47140869 Syrians
34.08942945 Samaritians
38.26125325 Lebanese
41.63526750 Iraq_Jews
42.18045756 Druze
43.64142757 Nusayri_Turkey
44.68858355 Iranian_Jews
46.77020847 Assyrian
46.84593365 Uzbekistan_Jews
46.85980260 Morocco_Jews
47.01820711 Turkmen_Iraq
47.91422649 Sephardic_Jews
48.32628788 Cypriots
48.54412735 Kurd_Sorani
48.58985388 Georgia_Jews
48.76509817 Turk_Southeast
49.53293349 Greek_Crete
49.62871447 MD_Jewish
Target: Kuwait2
Distance: 1.2953% / 1.29534526 | ADC: 0.25x
44.0 Saudis
35.0 Yemen_Jews
19.0 Bedouin
1.0 Moroccan
0.8 Murcia
0.2 Garo
Sorani Kurd from Iraq:
Gedrosian: 23.27
Siberian: 0.00
Northwest_African: 2.76
Southeast_Asian: 0.00
Atlantic_Med: 6.28
North_European: 8.51
South_Asian 4.20
East_African 0.00
Southwest_Asian: 13.47
East_Asian: 0.96
Caucasian: 40.56
SSA: 0.00
Distance to: SoraniKurdIraq
4.07268953 Kurd_Kurmanji
4.16193465 Talysh_Azerbaijan
4.43314787 Zaza
4.60657139 Kurd_Sorani
5.08544983 Azerbaijani_Iran
6.36782537 Turkmen_Iraq
6.48885968 Azerbaijani
6.50731127 Kurd_KAZ
6.79350425 Azerbaijani_Turkey
7.00099993 Lur_Iran
7.17809863 Iranian
7.83432831 Udi_Azerbaijan
8.10932180 Iranian_Fars
8.87324067 Turk_Southeast
9.48984194 Uzbekistan_Jews
9.60182274 Turk_East
10.38163282 Iran_Mazandaran
10.94379733 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
11.47344325 Turk_Central_East
11.88425429 Iran_Khorasan
12.62720080 Turk_South
13.10430464 Armenian_East
13.47694327 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
13.76729821 Turk_Anatolia
13.79739831 Turk_Central_West
Target: SoraniKurdIraq
Distance: 1.7216% / 1.72162663 | ADC: 0.25x
54.8 Kurd_Sorani
23.8 Talysh_Azerbaijan
8.4 Udi_Azerbaijan
7.2 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
4.0 North_Ossetians
1.2 Mozabite
Turk from Gümüshane + Bayburt:
Gedrosian: 17.11
Siberian: 1.87
Northwest_African: 0.61
Southeast_Asian: 0.30
Atlantic_Med: 6.86
North_European: 9.78
South_Asian 1.92
East_African 0.00
Southwest_Asian: 14.16
East_Asian: 2.39
Caucasian: 44.99
SSA: 0.00
Distance to: TurkGümüshaneBayburt
5.15811981 Turk_East
6.27361937 Udi_Azerbaijan
7.18671691 Azerbaijani_Turkey
7.95586576 Armenian_East
8.17332858 Uzbekistan_Jews
8.17921145 Turk_Central_East
8.28901080 Azerbaijani
8.32420567 Turk_Southeast
8.33081028 Zaza
8.38170627 Azerbaijani_Iran
9.57053812 Kurd_Kurmanji
9.69699438 Talysh_Azerbaijan
9.82239278 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
9.93922532 Turkmen_Iraq
10.22293011 Turk_Ahiska
10.30142709 Armenian_West
10.33309247 Turk_South
10.86717535 Kurd_Sorani
11.08510262 Turk_Anatolia
11.14673046 Turk_Central_West
11.15462684 Georgia_Jews
11.49093991 Kurd_KAZ
11.78279254 Assyrian
11.99528657 Turk_East_Black_Sea
12.72640169 Azerbaijan_Jews
Target: TurkGümüshaneBayburt
Distance: 1.6371% / 1.63712531 | ADC: 0.25x
45.8 Turk_East
24.8 Kumyks
13.4 Uzbekistan_Jews
6.4 Yemen_Jews
5.2 Azerbaijani_Turkey
4.0 Georgia_Jews
Azerbaijani from Northwest bordering Armenia and Georgia :
Gedrosian: 21.03
Siberian: 3.41
Northwest_African: 1.33
Southeast_Asian: 0.61
Atlantic_Med: 10.39
North_European: 8.12
South_Asian 2.71
East_African 0.00
Southwest_Asian: 11.16
East_Asian: 5.28
Caucasian: 35.87
SSA: 0.00
Distance to: AzerbaijaniNorthwest
3.80240713 Azerbaijani
4.77034590 Azerbaijani_Iran
4.96897374 Azerbaijani_Turkey
4.98848674 Turk_Southeast
6.64420048 Turk_South
7.43586579 Turk_Central_East
7.86171101 Turk_Anatolia
7.92817760 Kurd_Kurmanji
8.13194934 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
8.13594494 Turk_Central_West
8.32191084 Turkmen_Iraq
9.10834782 Zaza
9.37665719 Kurd_Sorani
9.53876826 Turk_Southwest
9.63713132 Yoruk
9.82564502 Talysh_Azerbaijan
10.10420210 Iran_Khorasan
10.31553683 Turk_West_BlackSea
10.66357820 Iranian_Fars
11.25668690 Turk_East
11.40848807 Lur_Iran
11.62899394 Iranian
11.83976773 Turk_Northwest
11.94987448 Udi_Azerbaijan
12.36222876 Kurd_KAZ
Target: AzerbaijaniNorthwest
Distance: 1.1406% / 1.14062939 | ADC: 0.25x
48.2 Azerbaijani
28.4 Azerbaijani_Iran
15.4 Yoruk
4.2 Turkmens
1.8 Sardinian
1.4 Brahui
Azerbaijani from Northwest bordering Armenia and Georgia :
I think there is some Anatolian influence in them. Also 9.3% EE is quite a bit (20-25% Oghuz :D)
Halgurd
09-04-2020, 02:41 PM
Sorani Kurd from Iraq:
Gedrosian: 23.27
Siberian: 0.00
Northwest_African: 2.76
Southeast_Asian: 0.00
Atlantic_Med: 6.28
North_European: 8.51
South_Asian 4.20
East_African 0.00
Southwest_Asian: 13.47
East_Asian: 0.96
Caucasian: 40.56
SSA: 0.00
Distance to: SoraniKurdIraq
4.07268953 Kurd_Kurmanji
4.16193465 Talysh_Azerbaijan
4.43314787 Zaza
4.60657139 Kurd_Sorani
5.08544983 Azerbaijani_Iran
6.36782537 Turkmen_Iraq
6.48885968 Azerbaijani
6.50731127 Kurd_KAZ
6.79350425 Azerbaijani_Turkey
7.00099993 Lur_Iran
7.17809863 Iranian
7.83432831 Udi_Azerbaijan
8.10932180 Iranian_Fars
8.87324067 Turk_Southeast
9.48984194 Uzbekistan_Jews
9.60182274 Turk_East
10.38163282 Iran_Mazandaran
10.94379733 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
11.47344325 Turk_Central_East
11.88425429 Iran_Khorasan
12.62720080 Turk_South
13.10430464 Armenian_East
13.47694327 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
13.76729821 Turk_Anatolia
13.79739831 Turk_Central_West
Target: SoraniKurdIraq
Distance: 1.7216% / 1.72162663 | ADC: 0.25x
54.8 Kurd_Sorani
23.8 Talysh_Azerbaijan
8.4 Udi_Azerbaijan
7.2 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
4.0 North_Ossetians
1.2 Mozabite
Do you know from which city? For some reason he has elevated NW African, and less South Asian.
Do you know from which city? For some reason he has elevated NW African, and less South Asian.
Yes: Sulaymaniyah
Do you know from which city? For some reason he has elevated NW African, and less South Asian.
4.2% South Asian is not low for any kind of Kurds, is it? What is substantial is his North European.
4.2% South Asian is not low for any kind of Kurds, is it? What is substantial is his North European.
Just had this result in the pipeline:
Kurd from Ankara province (CentralWestern Turkey):
G25 Distances (https://scontent-frx5-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/118794872_787521638665205_4633897777598490549_n.jp g?_nc_cat=100&_nc_sid=1480c5&_nc_ohc=eQChX4LyiGsAX_cQYT9&_nc_ht=scontent-frx5-1.xx&oh=2b323d77f8dcf8e5839f79f92d71c693&oe=5F78B669)
Gedrosian: 24.12
Siberian: 1.73
Northwest_African: 1.68
Southeast_Asian: 0.11
Atlantic_Med: 7.26
North_European: 10.84
South_Asian 2.37
East_African 0.11
Southwest_Asian: 12.61
East_Asian: 0.68
Caucasian: 38.31
SSA: 0.18
Distance to: KurdCentralWTurkey
4.49100212 Azerbaijani_Iran
4.53361886 Kurd_Kurmanji
5.31384983 Azerbaijani
5.65688960 Talysh_Azerbaijan
5.67683891 Zaza
6.10417890 Kurd_Sorani
6.34586480 Azerbaijani_Turkey
7.36887373 Turkmen_Iraq
7.54088854 Iranian
7.62612615 Kurd_KAZ
8.15136798 Iranian_Fars
8.20534582 Turk_Southeast
8.30696696 Lur_Iran
8.41114737 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
9.18242887 Udi_Azerbaijan
10.27801537 Iran_Khorasan
10.82514665 Iran_Mazandaran
10.83072020 Turk_East
10.90909712 Turk_Central_East
11.36133355 Turk_South
12.04246652 Uzbekistan_Jews
12.43537695 Turk_Anatolia
12.53916664 Turk_Central_West
12.62508218 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
13.50744980 Ingush
Target: KurdCentralWTurkey
Distance: 1.9880% / 1.98801944 | ADC: 0.5x
61.0 Kurd_Kurmanji
23.2 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
12.2 Azerbaijani_Iran
2.6 Yagnobi
0.8 Kurd_Sorani
0.2 Iranian_Fars
The highest North Euro I've seen in a Kurd. Possibly recent Turkish but then again, Anatolian Turks are not known for high NE either (10-12% is common though).
Halgurd
09-04-2020, 03:52 PM
4.2% South Asian is not low for any kind of Kurds, is it? What is substantial is his North European.
I'd say his North European is normal for a Kurd. For comparison I score between 7-8% if I remember correctly.
Bender1999
09-04-2020, 04:05 PM
Does someone have results of a Khorasan Turk?
Does someone have results of a Khorasan Turk?
You mean Turkmens or regular?
From the former thread. I will rerun them tonight. These are actual Dagestanis
North Caucasian, presumably Lezgin family (all four are relatives)
# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 36.74
2 Gedrosia 26.85
3 North_European 21.41
4 Atlantic_Med 5.51
5 Southwest_Asian 5.06
6 Siberian 2.49
7 South_Asian 1.94
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Lezgins (Behar) 10.54
2 Kumyks (Yunusbayev) 11.99
3 Chechens (Yunusbayev) 15.6
4 Turkmens (Yunusbayev) 15.98
5 Iranian (Dodecad) 16.26
6 Kurds (Yunusbayev) 17.01
7 Kurd (Dodecad) 17.21
8 Iranians (Behar) 18.63
9 Turks (Behar) 19.3
10 Nogais (Yunusbayev) 20.48
11 Adygei (HGDP) 20.64
12 Turkish (Dodecad) 20.7
13 Tajiks (Yunusbayev) 20.89
14 Balkars (Yunusbayev) 21.77
15 North_Ossetians (Yunusbayev) 21.78
16 Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) 22.57
17 Armenians_15 (Yunusbayev) 26.56
18 Georgia_Jews (Behar) 26.81
19 Armenian (Dodecad) 27.53
20 Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) 27.59
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 63.2% Lezgins (Behar) + 36.8% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) @ 6.09
2 85.4% Lezgins (Behar) + 14.6% Portuguese (Dodecad) @ 6.17
3 85.9% Lezgins (Behar) + 14.1% Murcia (1000Genomes) @ 6.24
4 70.1% Lezgins (Behar) + 29.9% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) @ 6.26
5 85.4% Lezgins (Behar) + 14.6% Extremadura (1000Genomes) @ 6.26
6 86.6% Lezgins (Behar) + 13.4% Castilla_La_Mancha (1000Genomes) @ 6.27
7 85.5% Lezgins (Behar) + 14.5% Galicia (1000Genomes) @ 6.3
8 86.5% Lezgins (Behar) + 13.5% Spanish (Dodecad) @ 6.35
9 85.6% Lezgins (Behar) + 14.4% Canarias (1000Genomes) @ 6.37
10 86.3% Lezgins (Behar) + 13.7% Castilla_Y_Leon (1000Genomes) @ 6.4
11 89.1% Lezgins (Behar) + 10.9% Pais_Vasco (1000Genomes) @ 6.42
12 86.4% Lezgins (Behar) + 13.6% Cataluna (1000Genomes) @ 6.44
13 87.1% Lezgins (Behar) + 12.9% Aragon (1000Genomes) @ 6.48
14 86.2% Lezgins (Behar) + 13.8% Andalucia (1000Genomes) @ 6.5
15 86.5% Lezgins (Behar) + 13.5% Spaniards (Behar) @ 6.51
16 89.8% Lezgins (Behar) + 10.2% French_Basque (HGDP) @ 6.53
17 87% Lezgins (Behar) + 13% Cantabria (1000Genomes) @ 6.53
18 87% Lezgins (Behar) + 13% Valencia (1000Genomes) @ 6.58
19 85.7% Lezgins (Behar) + 14.3% Baleares (1000Genomes) @ 6.59
20 58.4% Chechens (Yunusbayev) + 41.6% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) @ 6.63
# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 38.35
2 Gedrosia 26.35
3 North_European 21.37
4 Atlantic_Med 6.21
5 Southwest_Asian 3.88
6 Siberian 2.11
7 South_Asian 1.73
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Lezgins (Behar) 9.47
2 Kumyks (Yunusbayev) 10.85
3 Chechens (Yunusbayev) 14.21
4 Iranian (Dodecad) 16.6
5 Turkmens (Yunusbayev) 17.02
6 Kurds (Yunusbayev) 17.22
7 Kurd (Dodecad) 17.58
8 Turks (Behar) 18.67
9 Adygei (HGDP) 19.1
10 Iranians (Behar) 19.28
11 Turkish (Dodecad) 19.95
12 Nogais (Yunusbayev) 20.21
13 Balkars (Yunusbayev) 20.35
14 North_Ossetians (Yunusbayev) 20.39
15 Tajiks (Yunusbayev) 22.28
16 Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) 22.56
17 Armenians_15 (Yunusbayev) 25.78
18 Georgia_Jews (Behar) 26.43
19 Armenian (Dodecad) 26.73
20 Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) 27.18
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 86.1% Lezgins (Behar) + 13.9% Murcia (1000Genomes) @ 4.45
2 85.7% Lezgins (Behar) + 14.3% Portuguese (Dodecad) @ 4.47
3 86.8% Lezgins (Behar) + 13.2% Castilla_La_Mancha (1000Genomes) @ 4.49
4 85.7% Lezgins (Behar) + 14.3% Extremadura (1000Genomes) @ 4.52
5 85.8% Lezgins (Behar) + 14.2% Galicia (1000Genomes) @ 4.58
6 86.7% Lezgins (Behar) + 13.3% Spanish (Dodecad) @ 4.6
7 85.9% Lezgins (Behar) + 14.1% Canarias (1000Genomes) @ 4.64
8 86.5% Lezgins (Behar) + 13.5% Castilla_Y_Leon (1000Genomes) @ 4.65
9 86.3% Lezgins (Behar) + 13.7% Andalucia (1000Genomes) @ 4.65
10 89.2% Lezgins (Behar) + 10.8% Pais_Vasco (1000Genomes) @ 4.67
11 87.3% Lezgins (Behar) + 12.7% Aragon (1000Genomes) @ 4.68
12 89.8% Lezgins (Behar) + 10.2% French_Basque (HGDP) @ 4.69
13 86.6% Lezgins (Behar) + 13.4% Cataluna (1000Genomes) @ 4.72
14 86.6% Lezgins (Behar) + 13.4% Spaniards (Behar) @ 4.74
15 87.2% Lezgins (Behar) + 12.8% Cantabria (1000Genomes) @ 4.76
16 87.1% Lezgins (Behar) + 12.9% Valencia (1000Genomes) @ 4.79
17 85.8% Lezgins (Behar) + 14.2% Baleares (1000Genomes) @ 4.8
18 83.5% Lezgins (Behar) + 16.5% N_Italian (Dodecad) @ 5.19
19 84.4% Lezgins (Behar) + 15.6% North_Italian (HGDP) @ 5.23
20 80.6% Lezgins (Behar) + 19.4% O_Italian (Dodecad) @ 5.32
# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 36.67
2 Gedrosia 25.96
3 North_European 23.45
4 Atlantic_Med 6.66
5 Southwest_Asian 3.22
6 Siberian 2.16
7 South_Asian 1.57
8 East_Asian 0.3
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Lezgins (Behar) 10.41
2 Kumyks (Yunusbayev) 12.21
3 Chechens (Yunusbayev) 15.28
4 Turkmens (Yunusbayev) 17.63
5 Iranian (Dodecad) 18.81
6 Kurds (Yunusbayev) 19.44
7 Kurd (Dodecad) 19.72
8 Nogais (Yunusbayev) 19.81
9 Turks (Behar) 20.37
10 Adygei (HGDP) 20.38
11 Iranians (Behar) 21.22
12 Turkish (Dodecad) 21.42
13 Tajiks (Yunusbayev) 21.47
14 Balkars (Yunusbayev) 21.59
15 North_Ossetians (Yunusbayev) 21.66
16 Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) 24.61
17 Armenians_15 (Yunusbayev) 28
18 Georgia_Jews (Behar) 28.53
19 Armenian (Dodecad) 28.88
20 Bulgarian (Dodecad) 28.97
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 83.8% Lezgins (Behar) + 16.2% Portuguese (Dodecad) @ 4.25
2 83.7% Lezgins (Behar) + 16.3% Extremadura (1000Genomes) @ 4.35
3 83.8% Lezgins (Behar) + 16.2% Galicia (1000Genomes) @ 4.37
4 84.6% Lezgins (Behar) + 15.4% Cataluna (1000Genomes) @ 4.38
5 85.1% Lezgins (Behar) + 14.9% Castilla_La_Mancha (1000Genomes) @ 4.4
6 84.8% Lezgins (Behar) + 15.2% Spanish (Dodecad) @ 4.41
7 87.7% Lezgins (Behar) + 12.3% Pais_Vasco (1000Genomes) @ 4.45
8 83.5% Lezgins (Behar) + 16.5% French (Dodecad) @ 4.49
9 84.4% Lezgins (Behar) + 15.6% Murcia (1000Genomes) @ 4.5
10 84.6% Lezgins (Behar) + 15.4% Castilla_Y_Leon (1000Genomes) @ 4.5
11 83.6% Lezgins (Behar) + 16.4% French (HGDP) @ 4.55
12 85.3% Lezgins (Behar) + 14.7% Cantabria (1000Genomes) @ 4.56
13 85.5% Lezgins (Behar) + 14.5% Aragon (1000Genomes) @ 4.59
14 84.8% Lezgins (Behar) + 15.2% Spaniards (Behar) @ 4.6
15 85.4% Lezgins (Behar) + 14.6% Valencia (1000Genomes) @ 4.69
16 84.7% Lezgins (Behar) + 15.3% Cornwall (1000Genomes) @ 4.7
17 84.8% Lezgins (Behar) + 15.2% British (Dodecad) @ 4.71
18 83.9% Lezgins (Behar) + 16.1% Baleares (1000Genomes) @ 4.76
19 84.1% Lezgins (Behar) + 15.9% Canarias (1000Genomes) @ 4.78
20 88.6% Lezgins (Behar) + 11.4% French_Basque (HGDP) @ 4.78
# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 38.05
2 Gedrosia 26.35
3 North_European 22.11
4 Atlantic_Med 5.69
5 Southwest_Asian 3.34
6 Siberian 2.65
7 South_Asian 1.58
8 Southeast_Asian 0.18
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Lezgins (Behar) 9.12
2 Kumyks (Yunusbayev) 10.95
3 Chechens (Yunusbayev) 14.03
4 Turkmens (Yunusbayev) 17.21
5 Iranian (Dodecad) 17.46
6 Kurds (Yunusbayev) 18.15
7 Kurd (Dodecad) 18.45
8 Adygei (HGDP) 19.18
9 Turks (Behar) 19.44
10 Nogais (Yunusbayev) 19.81
11 Iranians (Behar) 20.13
12 Balkars (Yunusbayev) 20.38
13 North_Ossetians (Yunusbayev) 20.4
14 Turkish (Dodecad) 20.72
15 Tajiks (Yunusbayev) 22.02
16 Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) 23.48
17 Armenians_15 (Yunusbayev) 26.66
18 Georgia_Jews (Behar) 27.31
19 Armenian (Dodecad) 27.61
20 Armenians (Behar) 28.07
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 86.2% Lezgins (Behar) + 13.8% Portuguese (Dodecad) @ 4.27
2 87.3% Lezgins (Behar) + 12.7% Castilla_La_Mancha (1000Genomes) @ 4.34
3 86.2% Lezgins (Behar) + 13.8% Extremadura (1000Genomes) @ 4.34
4 86.7% Lezgins (Behar) + 13.3% Murcia (1000Genomes) @ 4.35
5 86.3% Lezgins (Behar) + 13.7% Galicia (1000Genomes) @ 4.4
6 87.2% Lezgins (Behar) + 12.8% Spanish (Dodecad) @ 4.41
7 89.6% Lezgins (Behar) + 10.4% Pais_Vasco (1000Genomes) @ 4.46
8 87% Lezgins (Behar) + 13% Castilla_Y_Leon (1000Genomes) @ 4.47
9 87% Lezgins (Behar) + 13% Cataluna (1000Genomes) @ 4.49
10 86.4% Lezgins (Behar) + 13.6% Canarias (1000Genomes) @ 4.5
11 87.8% Lezgins (Behar) + 12.2% Aragon (1000Genomes) @ 4.52
12 87.6% Lezgins (Behar) + 12.4% Cantabria (1000Genomes) @ 4.56
13 87.1% Lezgins (Behar) + 12.9% Spaniards (Behar) @ 4.57
14 90.3% Lezgins (Behar) + 9.7% French_Basque (HGDP) @ 4.57
15 86.9% Lezgins (Behar) + 13.1% Andalucia (1000Genomes) @ 4.58
16 87.6% Lezgins (Behar) + 12.4% Valencia (1000Genomes) @ 4.62
17 86.4% Lezgins (Behar) + 13.6% Baleares (1000Genomes) @ 4.66
18 86.6% Lezgins (Behar) + 13.4% French (HGDP) @ 5
19 84.2% Lezgins (Behar) + 15.8% N_Italian (Dodecad) @ 5.08
20 85.1% Lezgins (Behar) + 14.9% North_Italian (HGDP) @ 5.17
From the former thread. I will rerun them tonight. These are actual Dagestanis
#1,26.85,2.49,0,0,5.51,21.41,1.94,0,5.06,0,36.74,0
Distance to: #1
1.99087920 Lezgin
5.14370489 Tabasaran
5.21549614 Avar
5.31782850 Avar_Dagestan
5.94661248 Qumuq
6.94532217 Lak
7.03792583 Dargin
7.25301317 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
8.42279051 Chechen
9.83594429 Ingush
Target: #1
Distance: 0.9874% / 0.98738611 | ADC: 0.25x
91.8 Lezgin
4.4 Balkan_Gypsy
3.4 Avar_Dagestan
0.4 Saudis
Target: #1
Distance: 1.2309% / 1.23092804 | ADC: 0.5x
96.6 Lezgin
3.4 Balkan_Gypsy
#2,26.35,2.11,0,0,6.21,21.37,1.73,0,3.88,0,38.35,0
Distance to: #2
2.54354084 Lezgin
4.75174705 Avar_Dagestan
5.34976635 Avar
5.55495275 Tabasaran
5.77049391 Qumuq
6.74444957 Chechen
6.86977438 Dargin
6.90312248 Lak
6.92119932 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
8.33155448 Ingush
Target: #2
Distance: 0.9594% / 0.95936062 | ADC: 0.25x
66.2 Lezgin
26.4 Avar_Dagestan
5.0 Georgian_Adjara
2.0 Balkan_Gypsy
0.4 Sardinian
Target: #2
Distance: 1.6126% / 1.61258926 | ADC: 0.5x
78.4 Lezgin
9.6 Avar_Dagestan
7.6 Chechen
2.4 Ingush
1.2 Balkan_Gypsy
0.8 Greek_Cappadocia
#3,25.96,2.16,0,0,6.66,23.45,1.57,0,3.22,0.30,36.6 7,0
Distance to: #3
2.54797959 Avar_Dagestan
3.35925587 Tabasaran
3.40524595 Avar
3.53769699 Lezgin
4.70966028 Dargin
5.09380997 Qumuq
5.21006718 Lak
7.99259032 Chechen
9.32671968 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
10.30700247 Ingush
Target: #3
Distance: 0.5477% / 0.54765186 | ADC: 0.25x
54.4 Avar_Dagestan
38.4 Lezgin
4.4 Tabasaran
1.8 Balkan_Gypsy
1.0 Sardinian
Target: #3
Distance: 1.0363% / 1.03628115 | ADC: 0.5x
62.0 Avar_Dagestan
36.8 Lezgin
0.8 Balkan_Gypsy
0.4 Sardinian
#4,26.35,2.65,0,0.18,5.69,22.11,1.58,0,3.34,0,38.0 5,0
Distance to: #4
2.46611030 Lezgin
3.82005236 Avar_Dagestan
4.32510115 Avar
4.69719065 Tabasaran
5.60159799 Qumuq
5.83174073 Lak
5.88667139 Dargin
6.76098366 Chechen
7.78456807 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
8.75989155 Ingush
Target: #4
Distance: 0.9504% / 0.95043203 | ADC: 0.25x
51.6 Lezgin
38.6 Avar_Dagestan
7.2 Ingush
1.0 Bnei_Menashe_Jews
1.0 Georgian_Imereti
0.6 Iranian
Target: #4
Distance: 1.3375% / 1.33750084 | ADC: 0.5x
63.6 Lezgin
30.6 Avar_Dagestan
5.8 Ingush
Interesting how they all get some Gypsy.
Bender1999
09-04-2020, 09:58 PM
You mean Turkmens or regular?
No, in my knowledge Khorasan Turks are another subgroup. They are the „transition“ from Turkmens to Azerbaijanis, linguistically and culturally. But what do you mean with regular?
No, in my knowledge Khorasan Turks are another subgroup. They are the „transition“ from Turkmens to Azerbaijanis, linguistically and culturally. But what do you mean with regular?
No, I only have a result from Mashadd with paternal ancestry from Tebriz (but I dont know how recent the Azerbaijani is). She identifies as Persian.
Gedrosian: 25.80
Siberian: 3.66
Northwest_African: 0.00
Southeast_Asian: 1.56
Atlantic_Med: 6.64
North_European: 7.17
South_Asian 6.34
East_African 0.33
Southwest_Asian: 10.22
East_Asian: 3.68
Caucasian: 34.50
SSA: 0.00
Distance to: SH
4.23733407 Iran_Khorasan
6.06250773 Iranian_Fars
7.59808529 Azerbaijani_Iran
8.33019808 Azerbaijani
8.34991018 Iranian
8.82176286 Lur_Iran
8.92333458 Kurd_Kurmanji
9.06607964 Talysh_Azerbaijan
9.13684847 Kurd_Sorani
9.35996795 Azerbaijani_Turkey
9.51934346 Turkmens
10.12529506 Iran_Mazandaran
10.27807375 Turkmen_Iran
10.48508941 Zaza
10.49096278 Turkmen_Iraq
11.11370775 Turk_Southeast
11.32675593 Kurd_KAZ
12.70037007 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
13.33140278 Turk_South
13.34892880 Parsi_India
14.04885049 Turk_Central_East
14.61592625 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
14.70628437 Turk_Anatolia
14.80864612 Udi_Azerbaijan
15.08918487 Turk_Central_West
Target: SH
Distance: 1.2348% / 1.23475858 | ADC: 0.25x
30.6 Azerbaijani_Turkey
29.0 Turkmens
14.2 Parsi_India
13.8 Iranian_Fars
12.2 Iranian
0.2 Khasi
And this one from Khorasan who says to have Fars, Tork and Kord ancestry:
Gedrosian: 26.52
Siberian: 2.40
Northwest_African: 0.00
Southeast_Asian: 0.00
Atlantic_Med: 8.55
North_European: 10.63
South_Asian 5.65
East_African 0.00
Southwest_Asian: 8.98
East_Asian: 5.68
Caucasian: 31.59
SSA: 0.00
Distance to: KT
4.10090234 Iran_Khorasan
7.40851537 Turkmens
8.15612653 Turkmen_Iran
9.55277970 Iranian_Fars
10.29052963 Azerbaijani
10.52925923 Azerbaijani_Iran
11.80070337 Azerbaijani_Turkey
12.15964226 Kurd_Kurmanji
12.42550603 Iranian
12.69925195 Kurd_Sorani
12.78602362 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
12.79970312 Talysh_Azerbaijan
12.82699107 Turk_Southeast
12.83448090 Tajik_Herat
13.10861930 Lur_Iran
13.42496182 Iran_Mazandaran
13.63755477 Turkmen_Iraq
13.75652209 Zaza
14.12448583 Turk_South
14.23556111 Yoruk
14.98271337 Parsi_India
15.00065999 Kurd_KAZ
15.11491978 Turk_Anatolia
15.41324106 Turk_Central_East
15.43240422 Turk_Central_West
15.48777582 Turk_Southwest
Target: KT
Distance: 2.3505% / 2.35046862 | ADC: 0.25x
35.0 Azerbaijani
31.0 Turkmens
14.6 Tajik_Herat
6.6 Iranian_Fars
5.6 Iran_Mazandaran
5.2 Yagnobi
1.8 French_Basque
Kaspias
09-05-2020, 01:21 PM
An old lady whose father/mother migrated to Anatolia from Kastoria, Greece. Kastoria took only the first wave of the Turkic mass-migration to the Balkans that consists of early Yörüks which belonged to the confederation "Tırhala Yörükleri." Dates between 1430 and 1500.
In this sense, she is a decent example of how Turkic admixture wiped out in the region in 500 years when not supplied with fresh comers. Unmixed Turkish samples from the regions Ioannina, Kastoria, and Trikala are really rare.
Modelling
https://i.ibb.co/qRQK4tn/118765110-768893970592806-7874498352044191932-n.png
Target: AO
Distance: 2.3716% / 2.37161551
46.4 Macedonian
45.2 Greek
8.4 Turkmens
Gedmatch
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 30.5
2 North_European 25.82
3 Atlantic_Med 25.19
4 Southwest_Asian 9.45
5 Gedrosia 6.37
6 Southeast_Asian 1.37
7 Northwest_African 0.79
8 East_African 0.35
9 Sub_Saharan 0.17
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Greek (Dodecad) 9.03
2 O_Italian (Dodecad) 9.07
3 Bulgarian (Dodecad) 9.43
4 Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) 10.31
5 Romanians (Behar) 10.81
6 C_Italian (Dodecad) 12.39
7 Tuscan (HGDP) 13.88
8 TSI30 (Metspalu) 14.38
9 Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) 15.03
10 S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) 15.06
11 Sicilian (Dodecad) 15.22
12 Ashkenazi (Dodecad) 15.35
13 N_Italian (Dodecad) 16.99
14 North_Italian (HGDP) 19.59
15 Sephardic_Jews (Behar) 21.02
16 Morocco_Jews (Behar) 22.87
17 Turkish (Dodecad) 24.72
18 Hungarians (Behar) 25.24
19 Turks (Behar) 26.83
20 Cypriots (Behar) 27.29
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 51.9% Cypriots (Behar) + 48.1% German (Dodecad) @ 2.08
2 59.5% Cypriots (Behar) + 40.5% Swedish (Dodecad) @ 2.2
3 74.4% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 25.6% Russian (Dodecad) @ 2.75
4 73.9% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 26.1% Mordovians (Yunusbayev) @ 2.76
5 59.6% Cypriots (Behar) + 40.4% Norwegian (Dodecad) @ 2.8
6 74.3% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 25.7% Russian_B (Behar) @ 2.89
7 73.1% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 26.9% Mixed_Slav (Dodecad) @ 2.92
8 77% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 23% Lithuanian (Dodecad) @ 2.94
9 78.2% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 21.8% Lithuanians (Behar) @ 2.94
10 71.7% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 28.3% Ukranians (Yunusbayev) @ 2.99
11 74.6% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 25.4% Belorussian (Behar) @ 3.03
12 52% Hungarians (Behar) + 48% Cypriots (Behar) @ 3.17
13 66.9% Romanians (Behar) + 33.1% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) @ 3.31
14 62.5% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 37.5% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) @ 3.36
15 75% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 25% Russian (HGDP) @ 3.36
16 58.9% Romanians (Behar) + 41.1% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) @ 3.47
17 72.7% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 27.3% Polish (Dodecad) @ 3.53
18 70.3% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 29.7% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) @ 3.53
19 73.9% Sicilian (Dodecad) + 26.1% Mordovians (Yunusbayev) @ 3.54
20 72.1% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 27.9% Morocco_Jews (Behar) @ 3.55
Updated Oracle
Least-squares method.
Using 1 population approximation:
1 Turk_Macedonia @ 2,803927
2 Turk_Greece @ 4,20688
3 Albanian_Kosovo @ 5,235289
4 Gagauz @ 6,033286
5 Albanian_North @ 6,266904
6 R,Moldova_Gagauz @ 6,660653
7 R,Moldova_South @ 7,947235
8 Turk_Bulgaria @ 8,012161
9 Italy_Lazio @ 9,357365
10 Italy_Apulia @ 9,733703
11 Pomak @ 9,837655
12 Greek @ 9,88816
13 Bulgarian @ 10,145015
14 Crimean_Tatar_Coast @ 10,340534
15 Macedonian @ 10,812239
16 Italy_Marche @ 10,820077
17 Bulgarians @ 11,066872
18 Italy_Abruzzo @ 11,246642
19 Italy_Romagna @ 11,27285
20 Romanians @ 11,663915
21 Crimean_Tatar_Mountain @ 12,91506
22 Montenegrin @ 13,172092
23 Italy_Tuscany @ 13,509545
24 Italy_Campania @ 13,797699
25 Italy_Sicily @ 13,817767
26 Italy_FriuliVG @ 13,87619
27 MD_Jewish @ 14,197367
28 Italy_Emilia @ 14,455281
29 Italy_Veneto @ 14,649287
30 Ashkenazi_Jews @ 14,746187
335 iterations.
Using 2 populations approximation:
1 Greek_Crete+Serb @ 1,684031
2 Italy_Apulia+Pomak @ 2,007068
3 Cypriots+German @ 2,330925
4 Bulgarian+Italy_Apulia @ 2,338457
5 Italy_Apulia+Romanians @ 2,365877
6 Greek_Crete+Montenegrin @ 2,559319
7 Bulgarian+Italy_Abruzzo @ 2,599815
8 Gagauz+Italy_Apulia @ 2,602334
9 Italy_Apulia+R,Moldova_South @ 2,662454
10 Italy_Apulia+Macedonian @ 2,695457
11 Bosnian+Greek_Crete @ 2,713122
12 Turk_Macedonia+Turk_Macedonia @ 2,803927
13 Italy_Abruzzo+Romanians @ 2,83462
14 Italy_Campania+Romanians @ 2,951336
15 Cypriots+Slovenian @ 2,952664
16 Italy_Sicily+Romanians @ 2,974067
17 Cypriots+Slovak @ 2,994786
18 Italy_Abruzzo+Pomak @ 3,00066
19 Greek_Cappadocia+Slovenian @ 3,022877
20 Croat+Greek_Crete @ 3,040306
21 Greek_Crete+HUN_Szekely @ 3,071872
22 Italy_Apulia+R,Moldova_Gagauz @ 3,090423
23 Albanian_Kosovo+Turk_Macedonia @ 3,090782
24 Bulgarians+Italy_Apulia @ 3,100898
25 Greek+R,Moldova_Gagauz @ 3,12061
26 Italy_Campania+Pomak @ 3,15006
27 Turk_Greece+Turk_Macedonia @ 3,210395
28 Bulgarian+Italy_Campania @ 3,247966
29 Greek+R,Moldova_South @ 3,279555
30 Macedonian+MD_Jewish @ 3,29421
56280 iterations.
Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Greek_Crete +25% Croat +25% Macedonian @ 1,56992
2 50% Gagauz +25% Gagauz +25% Greek_Crete @ 1,585042
3 50% Gagauz +25% Albanian_Kosovo +25% Greek_Crete @ 1,619652
4 50% Gagauz +25% Albanian_North +25% Greek_Crete @ 1,62386
5 50% Bulgarian +25% Italy_Trentino +25% Nusayri_Turkey @ 1,625851
6 50% R,Moldova_South +25% Greek_Crete +25% Turk_Macedonia @ 1,626646
7 50% Greek_Crete +25% Bulgarian +25% Slovenian @ 1,626918
8 50% Gagauz +25% Greek_Crete +25% R,Moldova_South @ 1,631242
9 50% Pomak +25% Greek_Cappadocia +25% Italy_FriuliVG @ 1,657905
10 50% Greek_Crete +25% Croat +25% Montenegrin @ 1,662747
11 50% Greek_Crete +25% Bosnian +25% Montenegrin @ 1,671337
12 50% Cypriots +25% German +25% Slovenian @ 1,679627
13 50% Greek_Crete +25% Serb +25% Serb @ 1,684031
14 50% Greek_Crete +25% Gagauz +25% Hungarians @ 1,69284
15 50% Croat +25% Greek_Cappadocia +25% Italy_Calabria @ 1,694696
16 50% Cypriots +25% Bavarian_German +25% PL_Warmia-Masuria @ 1,694785
17 50% Greek_Crete +25% Bosnian +25% Macedonian @ 1,707575
18 50% Macedonian +25% Cypriots +25% R,Moldova_South @ 1,713446
19 50% Greek_Crete +25% Gagauz +25% Slovenian @ 1,720236
20 50% Macedonian +25% Crimean_Tatar_Coast +25% MD_Jewish @ 1,723421
21 50% Albanian_North +25% Bosnian +25% Nusayri_Turkey @ 1,724797
22 50% Greek_Crete +25% Romanians +25% Slovenian @ 1,731092
23 50% Gagauz +25% Turk_Macedonia +25% MD_Jewish @ 1,736133
24 50% Albanian_North +25% Croat +25% Nusayri_Turkey @ 1,741933
25 50% Cypriots +25% Serb +25% Swedish @ 1,742773
26 50% Cypriots +25% Bavarian_German +25% Sorb_Lusatia @ 1,744157
27 50% Gagauz +25% Greek_Crete +25% R,Moldova_Gagauz @ 1,748063
28 50% Croat +25% Ashkenazi_Jews +25% Greek_Cappadocia @ 1,754949
29 50% Greek_Crete +25% Bulgarians +25% Slovenian @ 1,755387
30 50% Greek_Crete +25% Greek +25% PL_Warmia-Masuria @ 1,7582
9316832 iterations.
Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Greek+Macedonian+Nusayri_Turkey+Slovenian @ 1,437527
2 Albanian_Kosovo+Gagauz+Greek_Crete+Pomak @ 1,50314
3 Gagauz+Greek_Crete+Macedonian+Turk_Macedonia @ 1,513391
4 Greek_Cappadocia+Montenegrin+Slovenian+MD_Jewish @ 1,548138
5 Bulgarians+German+Greek_Cappadocia+MD_Jewish @ 1,549109
6 Albanian_Kosovo+Greek+Nusayri_Turkey+PL_GreaterPol and @ 1,559949
7 Croat+Greek_Crete+Greek_Crete+Macedonian @ 1,56992
8 Albanian_Kosovo+Greek+Nusayri_Turkey+Sorb_Lusatia @ 1,570103
9 Albanian_Kosovo+Cypriots+Italy_Apulia+PL_GreaterPo land @ 1,57068
10 Cypriots+Italy_Lazio+PL_GreaterPoland+Turk_Macedon ia @ 1,571405
11 Cypriots+Gagauz+Italy_Campania+Sorb_Lusatia @ 1,574294
12 Croat+Greek+Montenegrin+Nusayri_Turkey @ 1,57686
13 Gagauz+Gagauz+Gagauz+Greek_Crete @ 1,585042
14 Bulgarian+German+Greek_Cappadocia+MD_Jewish @ 1,590393
15 Greek+Montenegrin+Nusayri_Turkey+Slovenian @ 1,590837
16 Greek_Crete+Pomak+R,Moldova_South+Turk_Macedonia @ 1,597963
17 Ashkenazi_Jews+Greek_Cappadocia+Montenegrin+Sloven ian @ 1,599894
18 Albanian_Kosovo+Cypriots+Italy_Apulia+Sorb_Lusatia @ 1,600237
19 Ashkenazi_Jews+Greek_Cappadocia+Hungarians+Montene grin @ 1,600474
20 Albanian_North+Ashkenazi_Jews+Greek_Cappadocia+PL_ GreaterPoland @ 1,601753
21 Cypriots+Italy_Marche+PL_GreaterPoland+Turk_Macedo nia @ 1,605643
22 Albanian_North+Greek+Nusayri_Turkey+PL_GreaterPola nd @ 1,606784
23 Cypriots+Italy_Campania+PL_GreaterPoland+R,Moldova _Gagauz @ 1,607713
24 Ashkenazi_Jews+Bulgarian+German+Greek_Cappadocia @ 1,608744
25 Crimean_Tatar_Coast+Cypriots+Italy_Emilia+Ukrainia n @ 1,61003
26 Albanian_North+Greek_Cappadocia+PL_GreaterPoland+M D_Jewish @ 1,612104
27 Cypriots+Italy_Abruzzo+PL_Warmia-Masuria+Turk_Macedonia @ 1,614013
28 Belorussian+Crimean_Tatar_Coast+Cypriots+Italy_Tus cany @ 1,615426
29 Albanian_North+Greek+Nusayri_Turkey+Slovak @ 1,616043
30 Georgia_Jews+Greek+Slovak+Swiss_Italian @ 1,616454
31 Cypriots+Italy_Marche+Turk_Macedonia+Ukrainian @ 1,616524
32 Greek+Greek_Crete+Italy_Apulia+PL_GreaterPoland @ 1,617928
33 Crimean_Tatar_Coast+Cypriots+Italy_Tuscany+PL_Mazo via @ 1,618201
34 Crimean_Tatar_Coast+Cypriots+Italy_Romagna+PL_Warm ia-Masuria @ 1,619115
35 Albanian_Kosovo+Gagauz+Gagauz+Greek_Crete @ 1,619652
36 Cypriots+Gagauz+Italy_Abruzzo+PL_GreaterPoland @ 1,620466
37 Cypriots+Italy_Campania+PL_GreaterPoland+R,Moldova _South @ 1,623356
38 Albanian_North+Gagauz+Gagauz+Greek_Crete @ 1,62386
39 Bulgarian+Bulgarian+Italy_Trentino+Nusayri_Turkey @ 1,625851
40 Greek_Crete+R,Moldova_South+R,Moldova_South+Turk_M acedonia @ 1,626646
41 Bulgarian+Greek_Crete+Greek_Crete+Slovenian @ 1,626918
42 Crimean_Tatar_Coast+Cypriots+Italy_Liguria+Ukraini an @ 1,629046
43 Albanian_North+Greek_Cappadocia+Italy_Campania+Ukr ainian @ 1,63016
44 Gagauz+Gagauz+Greek_Crete+R,Moldova_South @ 1,631242
45 Albanian_Kosovo+Cypriots+Slovenian+Turk_Greece @ 1,631464
46 Ashkenazi_Jews+Greek_Cappadocia+Serb+Slovenian @ 1,632421
47 Croat+Greek_Cappadocia+Italy_Campania+Serb @ 1,634118
48 Croat+Cypriots+Italy_Apulia+Serb @ 1,636099
49 Albanian_Kosovo+Crimean_Tatar_Coast+Croat+Greek_Cr ete @ 1,636167
50 Bulgarian+Cypriots+German+Italy_Apulia @ 1,636405
51 Bulgarian+German+Greek+Nusayri_Turkey @ 1,638852
52 Albanian_North+Greek+Nusayri_Turkey+Sorb_Lusatia @ 1,639623
53 Albanian_Kosovo+Cypriots+Slovenian+Turk_Macedonia @ 1,641014
54 Greek_Cappadocia+Hungarians+Montenegrin+MD_Jewish @ 1,641478
55 Ashkenazi_Jews+Croat+Greek_Cappadocia+Serb @ 1,641989
56 Cypriots+Gagauz+Italy_Campania+PL_GreaterPoland @ 1,645375
57 Cypriots+Italy_Apulia+R,Moldova_South+Slovak @ 1,646795
58 Cypriots+Italy_Campania+PL_Warmia-Masuria+Turk_Macedonia @ 1,647084
59 Gagauz+Greek_Crete+Pomak+Turk_Macedonia @ 1,647834
60 Albanian_Kosovo+Greek_Cappadocia+Italy_Campania+Uk rainian @ 1,650622
60723404 iterations.
Gaussian method.
Noise dispersion set to 0,421402
Using 1 population approximation:
1 Albanian_Kosovo @ 3,771053
2 Turk_Macedonia @ 3,858765
3 Gagauz @ 4,472518
4 Albanian_North @ 4,476288
5 Italy_Romagna @ 4,707962
6 Macedonian @ 4,99002
7 R,Moldova_South @ 5,0545
8 Pomak @ 5,110519
9 Italy_Tuscany @ 5,132997
10 Greek @ 5,282558
11 R,Moldova_Gagauz @ 5,302985
12 Italy_Lazio @ 5,409256
13 Turk_Greece @ 5,440798
14 Italy_Emilia @ 5,567275
15 Italy_Veneto @ 5,671971
16 Italy_Marche @ 5,782269
17 Montenegrin @ 5,826096
18 Italy_FriuliVG @ 5,934834
19 Bulgarian @ 5,940086
20 Italy_Liguria @ 5,946399
21 Italy_Apulia @ 6,054269
22 Italy_Abruzzo @ 6,17205
23 Italy_Piedmont @ 6,194
24 Italy_Lombardy @ 6,365389
25 Turk_Bulgaria @ 6,622381
26 Romanians @ 6,677359
27 Italy_Trentino @ 6,679844
28 Serb @ 6,726896
29 Crimean_Tatar_Coast @ 6,737689
30 France_Corsica @ 6,960379
335 iterations.
Using 2 populations approximation:
1 Cypriots+Slovenian @ 3,61938
2 Cypriots+German @ 3,657871
3 Cypriots+PL_GreaterPoland @ 3,691351
4 Georgia_Jews+German @ 3,740531
5 Albanian_Kosovo+Turk_Macedonia @ 3,744213
6 Albanian_Kosovo+Albanian_Kosovo @ 3,771053
7 Dutch+Georgia_Jews @ 3,782391
8 Greek+Turk_Macedonia @ 3,811916
9 Greek_Cappadocia+Slovenian @ 3,843666
10 British_Isles+Georgia_Jews @ 3,854604
11 Croat+Cypriots @ 3,855013
12 Turk_Macedonia+Turk_Macedonia @ 3,858765
13 English_Kent+Georgia_Jews @ 3,883962
14 Greek+Macedonian @ 3,884397
15 CEU30+Georgia_Jews @ 3,888002
16 Cypriots+Sorb_Lusatia @ 3,890612
17 English+Georgia_Jews @ 3,900315
18 Georgia_Jews+Mixed_NW_Euro @ 3,908588
19 Albanian_North+Turk_Macedonia @ 3,93953
20 Croat+Greek_Cappadocia @ 3,969592
21 Italy_Romagna+Turk_Macedonia @ 3,994077
22 Croat+Greek_Crete @ 3,999612
23 Gagauz+Greek @ 3,999987
24 French+Georgia_Jews @ 4,018428
25 Albanian_Kosovo+Greek @ 4,03199
26 Albanian_Kosovo+Albanian_North @ 4,059206
27 Cypriots+Slovak @ 4,086983
28 Albanian_Kosovo+Gagauz @ 4,088273
29 British+Georgia_Jews @ 4,093577
30 Albanian_Kosovo+Italy_Romagna @ 4,096379
56280 iterations.
Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Albanian_Kosovo +25% Georgia_Jews +25% German @ 3,141165
2 50% German +25% Cypriots +25% Georgia_Jews @ 3,141946
3 50% Italy_Romagna +25% Georgia_Jews +25% PL_GreaterPoland @ 3,181252
4 50% Italy_Tuscany +25% Georgia_Jews +25% PL_GreaterPoland @ 3,197324
5 50% Albanian_North +25% Georgia_Jews +25% German @ 3,237109
6 50% Italy_Trentino +25% Croat +25% Georgia_Jews @ 3,271589
7 50% Slovenian +25% Georgia_Jews +25% Greek @ 3,273165
8 50% Albanian_Kosovo +25% Georgia_Jews +25% Slovenian @ 3,284603
9 50% Italy_Romagna +25% Georgia_Jews +25% German @ 3,285884
10 50% Italy_Veneto +25% Croat +25% Georgia_Jews @ 3,290218
11 50% Albanian_North +25% Georgia_Jews +25% Slovenian @ 3,315523
12 50% Macedonian +25% Georgia_Jews +25% Italy_Trentino @ 3,322539
13 50% Italy_Trentino +25% Georgia_Jews +25% Macedonian @ 3,330671
14 50% Italy_Veneto +25% Georgia_Jews +25% Slovenian @ 3,333178
15 50% Croat +25% Georgia_Jews +25% Greek @ 3,339141
16 50% Albanian_Kosovo +25% Georgia_Jews +25% PL_GreaterPoland @ 3,340845
17 50% Croat +25% Georgia_Jews +25% Italy_Romagna @ 3,343102
18 50% Croat +25% Georgia_Jews +25% Italy_Tuscany @ 3,343539
19 50% Albanian_Kosovo +25% Dutch +25% Georgia_Jews @ 3,349422
20 50% Bavarian_German +25% Georgia_Jews +25% Greek @ 3,351211
21 50% Italy_Romagna +25% Georgia_Jews +25% Sorb_Lusatia @ 3,351372
22 50% Greek +25% Georgia_Jews +25% Swedish @ 3,363224
23 50% Italy_Romagna +25% Laz +25% PL_GreaterPoland @ 3,366572
24 50% Albanian_Kosovo +25% Georgia_Jews +25% Mixed_NW_Euro @ 3,369412
25 50% Albanian_Kosovo +25% Croat +25% Georgia_Jews @ 3,374932
26 50% Albanian_North +25% Croat +25% Georgia_Jews @ 3,375633
27 50% Italy_Tuscany +25% Georgia_Jews +25% German @ 3,376052
28 50% Albanian_Kosovo +25% Bavarian_German +25% Georgia_Jews @ 3,384243
29 50% Italy_Veneto +25% Georgia_Jews +25% PL_GreaterPoland @ 3,385529
30 50% Albanian_Kosovo +25% French +25% Georgia_Jews @ 3,38816
14136969 iterations.
Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Georgia_Jews+Greek+Italy_Trentino+PL_GreaterPoland @ 2,978989
2 Georgia_Jews+German+Greek+Italy_Trentino @ 3,013284
3 Georgia_Jews+German+Greek+Italy_Veneto @ 3,019521
4 Georgia_Jews+Greek+Italy_Veneto+PL_GreaterPoland @ 3,043098
5 Georgia_Jews+Greek+Italy_Trentino+Slovenian @ 3,044798
6 Georgia_Jews+Greek+PL_GreaterPoland+Swiss_Italian @ 3,093097
7 Georgia_Jews+Greek+Italy_Lombardy+PL_GreaterPoland @ 3,095429
8 Georgia_Jews+Greek+Italy_Tuscany+PL_GreaterPoland @ 3,097819
9 Croat+French+Georgia_Jews+Greek @ 3,109893
10 Croat+Georgia_Jews+Greek+Italy_Trentino @ 3,131021
11 Albanian_Kosovo+Georgia_Jews+German+Greek @ 3,13572
12 Georgia_Jews+Greek+Italy_Trentino+Sorb_Lusatia @ 3,138888
13 Albanian_Kosovo+Albanian_Kosovo+Georgia_Jews+Germa n @ 3,141165
14 Cypriots+Georgia_Jews+German+German @ 3,141946
15 Albanian_Kosovo+Georgia_Jews+German+Italy_Romagna @ 3,152202
16 Albanian_Kosovo+Croat+Georgia_Jews+Italy_Trentino @ 3,15228
17 Georgia_Jews+German+Greek+Italy_Tuscany @ 3,158146
18 Albanian_North+Georgia_Jews+German+Italy_Romagna @ 3,164504
19 Albanian_Kosovo+Georgia_Jews+Italy_Trentino+Sloven ian @ 3,167599
20 Georgia_Jews+Greek+Italy_Veneto+Slovenian @ 3,170049
21 Georgia_Jews+German+Greek+Macedonian @ 3,170841
22 Georgia_Jews+German+Greek+Swiss_Italian @ 3,172589
23 Albanian_Kosovo+Albanian_North+Georgia_Jews+German @ 3,1739
24 Georgia_Jews+Greek+Italy_Romagna+PL_GreaterPoland @ 3,174502
25 Albanian_North+Croat+Georgia_Jews+Italy_Trentino @ 3,17636
26 Albanian_Kosovo+Georgia_Jews+German+Italy_Tuscany @ 3,176805
27 French+Georgia_Jews+Greek+Slovenian @ 3,177424
28 Georgia_Jews+Italy_Romagna+Italy_Tuscany+PL_Greate rPoland @ 3,18016
29 Albanian_Kosovo+Georgia_Jews+Italy_Tuscany+PL_Grea terPoland @ 3,180906
30 Georgia_Jews+Italy_Romagna+Italy_Romagna+PL_Greate rPoland @ 3,181252
31 Albanian_North+Georgia_Jews+German+Greek @ 3,181547
32 Croat+Georgia_Jews+German+Greek @ 3,183466
33 Georgia_Jews+German+Greek+Italy_FriuliVG @ 3,189018
34 Albanian_Kosovo+Georgia_Jews+German+Italy_Veneto @ 3,189528
35 Georgia_Jews+Greek+Italy_Veneto+Sorb_Lusatia @ 3,189968
36 Georgia_Jews+Greek+Slovenian+Swiss_Italian @ 3,191378
37 Georgia_Jews+Greek+Italy_Piedmont+PL_GreaterPoland @ 3,191448
38 Georgia_Jews+Greek+Italy_FriuliVG+PL_GreaterPoland @ 3,193208
39 Albanian_North+Georgia_Jews+German+Italy_Tuscany @ 3,193426
40 Georgia_Jews+German+Greek+Italy_Romagna @ 3,193572
41 Albanian_North+Georgia_Jews+Italy_Tuscany+PL_Great erPoland @ 3,194352
42 Bavarian_German+Georgia_Jews+Greek+Slovenian @ 3,197123
43 Georgia_Jews+Italy_Tuscany+Italy_Tuscany+PL_Greate rPoland @ 3,197324
44 Bavarian_German+Croat+Georgia_Jews+Greek @ 3,19767
45 Georgia_Jews+German+Greek+Italy_Lombardy @ 3,198848
46 Albanian_Kosovo+Georgia_Jews+Italy_Romagna+PL_Grea terPoland @ 3,199257
47 Georgia_Jews+Italy_Romagna+Italy_Trentino+PL_Great erPoland @ 3,199639
48 Georgia_Jews+Italy_Romagna+Italy_Veneto+PL_Greater Poland @ 3,200234
49 Albanian_North+Georgia_Jews+Italy_Trentino+Sloveni an @ 3,207439
50 Albanian_North+Georgia_Jews+Italy_Romagna+PL_Great erPoland @ 3,209162
51 Albanian_Kosovo+Georgia_Jews+Italy_Veneto+Slovenia n @ 3,209407
52 Georgia_Jews+Greek+Italy_Emilia+PL_GreaterPoland @ 3,211669
53 Croat+French2+Georgia_Jews+Greek @ 3,213903
54 Cypriots+French+Georgia_Jews+PL_GreaterPoland @ 3,216464
55 Croat+Georgia_Jews+Italy_Romagna+Italy_Trentino @ 3,223459
56 Albanian_North+Georgia_Jews+Italy_Veneto+Slovenian @ 3,224833
57 Georgia_Jews+Italy_Romagna+Italy_Trentino+Slovenia n @ 3,22727
58 Georgia_Jews+Greek+Italy_Aosta_Valley+PL_GreaterPo land @ 3,23079
59 Albanian_North+Georgia_Jews+German+Italy_Veneto @ 3,23114
60 Georgia_Jews+Greek+Italy_Tuscany+Sorb_Lusatia @ 3,234282
216634130 iterations.
Almost completely Southeast European.
Thracian
09-05-2020, 01:30 PM
An old lady whose father/mother migrated to Anatolia from Kastoria, Greece. Kastoria took only the first wave of the Turkic mass-migration to the Balkans that consists of early Yörüks which belonged to the confederation "Tırhala Yörükleri." Dates between 1430 and 1500.
In this sense, she is a decent example of how Turkic admixture wiped out in the region in 500 years when not supplied with fresh comers. Unmixed Turkish samples from the regions Ioannina, Kastoria, and Trikala are really rare.
Modelling
https://i.ibb.co/qRQK4tn/118765110-768893970592806-7874498352044191932-n.png
Target: AO
Distance: 2.3716% / 2.37161551
46.4 Macedonian
45.2 Greek
8.4 Turkmens
Gedmatch
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 30.5
2 North_European 25.82
3 Atlantic_Med 25.19
4 Southwest_Asian 9.45
5 Gedrosia 6.37
6 Southeast_Asian 1.37
7 Northwest_African 0.79
8 East_African 0.35
9 Sub_Saharan 0.17
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Greek (Dodecad) 9.03
2 O_Italian (Dodecad) 9.07
3 Bulgarian (Dodecad) 9.43
4 Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) 10.31
5 Romanians (Behar) 10.81
6 C_Italian (Dodecad) 12.39
7 Tuscan (HGDP) 13.88
8 TSI30 (Metspalu) 14.38
9 Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) 15.03
10 S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) 15.06
11 Sicilian (Dodecad) 15.22
12 Ashkenazi (Dodecad) 15.35
13 N_Italian (Dodecad) 16.99
14 North_Italian (HGDP) 19.59
15 Sephardic_Jews (Behar) 21.02
16 Morocco_Jews (Behar) 22.87
17 Turkish (Dodecad) 24.72
18 Hungarians (Behar) 25.24
19 Turks (Behar) 26.83
20 Cypriots (Behar) 27.29
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 51.9% Cypriots (Behar) + 48.1% German (Dodecad) @ 2.08
2 59.5% Cypriots (Behar) + 40.5% Swedish (Dodecad) @ 2.2
3 74.4% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 25.6% Russian (Dodecad) @ 2.75
4 73.9% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 26.1% Mordovians (Yunusbayev) @ 2.76
5 59.6% Cypriots (Behar) + 40.4% Norwegian (Dodecad) @ 2.8
6 74.3% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 25.7% Russian_B (Behar) @ 2.89
7 73.1% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 26.9% Mixed_Slav (Dodecad) @ 2.92
8 77% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 23% Lithuanian (Dodecad) @ 2.94
9 78.2% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 21.8% Lithuanians (Behar) @ 2.94
10 71.7% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 28.3% Ukranians (Yunusbayev) @ 2.99
11 74.6% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 25.4% Belorussian (Behar) @ 3.03
12 52% Hungarians (Behar) + 48% Cypriots (Behar) @ 3.17
13 66.9% Romanians (Behar) + 33.1% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) @ 3.31
14 62.5% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 37.5% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) @ 3.36
15 75% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 25% Russian (HGDP) @ 3.36
16 58.9% Romanians (Behar) + 41.1% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) @ 3.47
17 72.7% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 27.3% Polish (Dodecad) @ 3.53
18 70.3% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 29.7% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) @ 3.53
19 73.9% Sicilian (Dodecad) + 26.1% Mordovians (Yunusbayev) @ 3.54
20 72.1% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 27.9% Morocco_Jews (Behar) @ 3.55
Updated Oracle
Least-squares method.
Using 1 population approximation:
1 Turk_Macedonia @ 2,803927
2 Turk_Greece @ 4,20688
3 Albanian_Kosovo @ 5,235289
4 Gagauz @ 6,033286
5 Albanian_North @ 6,266904
6 R,Moldova_Gagauz @ 6,660653
7 R,Moldova_South @ 7,947235
8 Turk_Bulgaria @ 8,012161
9 Italy_Lazio @ 9,357365
10 Italy_Apulia @ 9,733703
11 Pomak @ 9,837655
12 Greek @ 9,88816
13 Bulgarian @ 10,145015
14 Crimean_Tatar_Coast @ 10,340534
15 Macedonian @ 10,812239
16 Italy_Marche @ 10,820077
17 Bulgarians @ 11,066872
18 Italy_Abruzzo @ 11,246642
19 Italy_Romagna @ 11,27285
20 Romanians @ 11,663915
21 Crimean_Tatar_Mountain @ 12,91506
22 Montenegrin @ 13,172092
23 Italy_Tuscany @ 13,509545
24 Italy_Campania @ 13,797699
25 Italy_Sicily @ 13,817767
26 Italy_FriuliVG @ 13,87619
27 MD_Jewish @ 14,197367
28 Italy_Emilia @ 14,455281
29 Italy_Veneto @ 14,649287
30 Ashkenazi_Jews @ 14,746187
335 iterations.
Using 2 populations approximation:
1 Greek_Crete+Serb @ 1,684031
2 Italy_Apulia+Pomak @ 2,007068
3 Cypriots+German @ 2,330925
4 Bulgarian+Italy_Apulia @ 2,338457
5 Italy_Apulia+Romanians @ 2,365877
6 Greek_Crete+Montenegrin @ 2,559319
7 Bulgarian+Italy_Abruzzo @ 2,599815
8 Gagauz+Italy_Apulia @ 2,602334
9 Italy_Apulia+R,Moldova_South @ 2,662454
10 Italy_Apulia+Macedonian @ 2,695457
11 Bosnian+Greek_Crete @ 2,713122
12 Turk_Macedonia+Turk_Macedonia @ 2,803927
13 Italy_Abruzzo+Romanians @ 2,83462
14 Italy_Campania+Romanians @ 2,951336
15 Cypriots+Slovenian @ 2,952664
16 Italy_Sicily+Romanians @ 2,974067
17 Cypriots+Slovak @ 2,994786
18 Italy_Abruzzo+Pomak @ 3,00066
19 Greek_Cappadocia+Slovenian @ 3,022877
20 Croat+Greek_Crete @ 3,040306
21 Greek_Crete+HUN_Szekely @ 3,071872
22 Italy_Apulia+R,Moldova_Gagauz @ 3,090423
23 Albanian_Kosovo+Turk_Macedonia @ 3,090782
24 Bulgarians+Italy_Apulia @ 3,100898
25 Greek+R,Moldova_Gagauz @ 3,12061
26 Italy_Campania+Pomak @ 3,15006
27 Turk_Greece+Turk_Macedonia @ 3,210395
28 Bulgarian+Italy_Campania @ 3,247966
29 Greek+R,Moldova_South @ 3,279555
30 Macedonian+MD_Jewish @ 3,29421
56280 iterations.
Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Greek_Crete +25% Croat +25% Macedonian @ 1,56992
2 50% Gagauz +25% Gagauz +25% Greek_Crete @ 1,585042
3 50% Gagauz +25% Albanian_Kosovo +25% Greek_Crete @ 1,619652
4 50% Gagauz +25% Albanian_North +25% Greek_Crete @ 1,62386
5 50% Bulgarian +25% Italy_Trentino +25% Nusayri_Turkey @ 1,625851
6 50% R,Moldova_South +25% Greek_Crete +25% Turk_Macedonia @ 1,626646
7 50% Greek_Crete +25% Bulgarian +25% Slovenian @ 1,626918
8 50% Gagauz +25% Greek_Crete +25% R,Moldova_South @ 1,631242
9 50% Pomak +25% Greek_Cappadocia +25% Italy_FriuliVG @ 1,657905
10 50% Greek_Crete +25% Croat +25% Montenegrin @ 1,662747
11 50% Greek_Crete +25% Bosnian +25% Montenegrin @ 1,671337
12 50% Cypriots +25% German +25% Slovenian @ 1,679627
13 50% Greek_Crete +25% Serb +25% Serb @ 1,684031
14 50% Greek_Crete +25% Gagauz +25% Hungarians @ 1,69284
15 50% Croat +25% Greek_Cappadocia +25% Italy_Calabria @ 1,694696
16 50% Cypriots +25% Bavarian_German +25% PL_Warmia-Masuria @ 1,694785
17 50% Greek_Crete +25% Bosnian +25% Macedonian @ 1,707575
18 50% Macedonian +25% Cypriots +25% R,Moldova_South @ 1,713446
19 50% Greek_Crete +25% Gagauz +25% Slovenian @ 1,720236
20 50% Macedonian +25% Crimean_Tatar_Coast +25% MD_Jewish @ 1,723421
21 50% Albanian_North +25% Bosnian +25% Nusayri_Turkey @ 1,724797
22 50% Greek_Crete +25% Romanians +25% Slovenian @ 1,731092
23 50% Gagauz +25% Turk_Macedonia +25% MD_Jewish @ 1,736133
24 50% Albanian_North +25% Croat +25% Nusayri_Turkey @ 1,741933
25 50% Cypriots +25% Serb +25% Swedish @ 1,742773
26 50% Cypriots +25% Bavarian_German +25% Sorb_Lusatia @ 1,744157
27 50% Gagauz +25% Greek_Crete +25% R,Moldova_Gagauz @ 1,748063
28 50% Croat +25% Ashkenazi_Jews +25% Greek_Cappadocia @ 1,754949
29 50% Greek_Crete +25% Bulgarians +25% Slovenian @ 1,755387
30 50% Greek_Crete +25% Greek +25% PL_Warmia-Masuria @ 1,7582
9316832 iterations.
Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Greek+Macedonian+Nusayri_Turkey+Slovenian @ 1,437527
2 Albanian_Kosovo+Gagauz+Greek_Crete+Pomak @ 1,50314
3 Gagauz+Greek_Crete+Macedonian+Turk_Macedonia @ 1,513391
4 Greek_Cappadocia+Montenegrin+Slovenian+MD_Jewish @ 1,548138
5 Bulgarians+German+Greek_Cappadocia+MD_Jewish @ 1,549109
6 Albanian_Kosovo+Greek+Nusayri_Turkey+PL_GreaterPol and @ 1,559949
7 Croat+Greek_Crete+Greek_Crete+Macedonian @ 1,56992
8 Albanian_Kosovo+Greek+Nusayri_Turkey+Sorb_Lusatia @ 1,570103
9 Albanian_Kosovo+Cypriots+Italy_Apulia+PL_GreaterPo land @ 1,57068
10 Cypriots+Italy_Lazio+PL_GreaterPoland+Turk_Macedon ia @ 1,571405
11 Cypriots+Gagauz+Italy_Campania+Sorb_Lusatia @ 1,574294
12 Croat+Greek+Montenegrin+Nusayri_Turkey @ 1,57686
13 Gagauz+Gagauz+Gagauz+Greek_Crete @ 1,585042
14 Bulgarian+German+Greek_Cappadocia+MD_Jewish @ 1,590393
15 Greek+Montenegrin+Nusayri_Turkey+Slovenian @ 1,590837
16 Greek_Crete+Pomak+R,Moldova_South+Turk_Macedonia @ 1,597963
17 Ashkenazi_Jews+Greek_Cappadocia+Montenegrin+Sloven ian @ 1,599894
18 Albanian_Kosovo+Cypriots+Italy_Apulia+Sorb_Lusatia @ 1,600237
19 Ashkenazi_Jews+Greek_Cappadocia+Hungarians+Montene grin @ 1,600474
20 Albanian_North+Ashkenazi_Jews+Greek_Cappadocia+PL_ GreaterPoland @ 1,601753
21 Cypriots+Italy_Marche+PL_GreaterPoland+Turk_Macedo nia @ 1,605643
22 Albanian_North+Greek+Nusayri_Turkey+PL_GreaterPola nd @ 1,606784
23 Cypriots+Italy_Campania+PL_GreaterPoland+R,Moldova _Gagauz @ 1,607713
24 Ashkenazi_Jews+Bulgarian+German+Greek_Cappadocia @ 1,608744
25 Crimean_Tatar_Coast+Cypriots+Italy_Emilia+Ukrainia n @ 1,61003
26 Albanian_North+Greek_Cappadocia+PL_GreaterPoland+M D_Jewish @ 1,612104
27 Cypriots+Italy_Abruzzo+PL_Warmia-Masuria+Turk_Macedonia @ 1,614013
28 Belorussian+Crimean_Tatar_Coast+Cypriots+Italy_Tus cany @ 1,615426
29 Albanian_North+Greek+Nusayri_Turkey+Slovak @ 1,616043
30 Georgia_Jews+Greek+Slovak+Swiss_Italian @ 1,616454
31 Cypriots+Italy_Marche+Turk_Macedonia+Ukrainian @ 1,616524
32 Greek+Greek_Crete+Italy_Apulia+PL_GreaterPoland @ 1,617928
33 Crimean_Tatar_Coast+Cypriots+Italy_Tuscany+PL_Mazo via @ 1,618201
34 Crimean_Tatar_Coast+Cypriots+Italy_Romagna+PL_Warm ia-Masuria @ 1,619115
35 Albanian_Kosovo+Gagauz+Gagauz+Greek_Crete @ 1,619652
36 Cypriots+Gagauz+Italy_Abruzzo+PL_GreaterPoland @ 1,620466
37 Cypriots+Italy_Campania+PL_GreaterPoland+R,Moldova _South @ 1,623356
38 Albanian_North+Gagauz+Gagauz+Greek_Crete @ 1,62386
39 Bulgarian+Bulgarian+Italy_Trentino+Nusayri_Turkey @ 1,625851
40 Greek_Crete+R,Moldova_South+R,Moldova_South+Turk_M acedonia @ 1,626646
41 Bulgarian+Greek_Crete+Greek_Crete+Slovenian @ 1,626918
42 Crimean_Tatar_Coast+Cypriots+Italy_Liguria+Ukraini an @ 1,629046
43 Albanian_North+Greek_Cappadocia+Italy_Campania+Ukr ainian @ 1,63016
44 Gagauz+Gagauz+Greek_Crete+R,Moldova_South @ 1,631242
45 Albanian_Kosovo+Cypriots+Slovenian+Turk_Greece @ 1,631464
46 Ashkenazi_Jews+Greek_Cappadocia+Serb+Slovenian @ 1,632421
47 Croat+Greek_Cappadocia+Italy_Campania+Serb @ 1,634118
48 Croat+Cypriots+Italy_Apulia+Serb @ 1,636099
49 Albanian_Kosovo+Crimean_Tatar_Coast+Croat+Greek_Cr ete @ 1,636167
50 Bulgarian+Cypriots+German+Italy_Apulia @ 1,636405
51 Bulgarian+German+Greek+Nusayri_Turkey @ 1,638852
52 Albanian_North+Greek+Nusayri_Turkey+Sorb_Lusatia @ 1,639623
53 Albanian_Kosovo+Cypriots+Slovenian+Turk_Macedonia @ 1,641014
54 Greek_Cappadocia+Hungarians+Montenegrin+MD_Jewish @ 1,641478
55 Ashkenazi_Jews+Croat+Greek_Cappadocia+Serb @ 1,641989
56 Cypriots+Gagauz+Italy_Campania+PL_GreaterPoland @ 1,645375
57 Cypriots+Italy_Apulia+R,Moldova_South+Slovak @ 1,646795
58 Cypriots+Italy_Campania+PL_Warmia-Masuria+Turk_Macedonia @ 1,647084
59 Gagauz+Greek_Crete+Pomak+Turk_Macedonia @ 1,647834
60 Albanian_Kosovo+Greek_Cappadocia+Italy_Campania+Uk rainian @ 1,650622
60723404 iterations.
Gaussian method.
Noise dispersion set to 0,421402
Using 1 population approximation:
1 Albanian_Kosovo @ 3,771053
2 Turk_Macedonia @ 3,858765
3 Gagauz @ 4,472518
4 Albanian_North @ 4,476288
5 Italy_Romagna @ 4,707962
6 Macedonian @ 4,99002
7 R,Moldova_South @ 5,0545
8 Pomak @ 5,110519
9 Italy_Tuscany @ 5,132997
10 Greek @ 5,282558
11 R,Moldova_Gagauz @ 5,302985
12 Italy_Lazio @ 5,409256
13 Turk_Greece @ 5,440798
14 Italy_Emilia @ 5,567275
15 Italy_Veneto @ 5,671971
16 Italy_Marche @ 5,782269
17 Montenegrin @ 5,826096
18 Italy_FriuliVG @ 5,934834
19 Bulgarian @ 5,940086
20 Italy_Liguria @ 5,946399
21 Italy_Apulia @ 6,054269
22 Italy_Abruzzo @ 6,17205
23 Italy_Piedmont @ 6,194
24 Italy_Lombardy @ 6,365389
25 Turk_Bulgaria @ 6,622381
26 Romanians @ 6,677359
27 Italy_Trentino @ 6,679844
28 Serb @ 6,726896
29 Crimean_Tatar_Coast @ 6,737689
30 France_Corsica @ 6,960379
335 iterations.
Using 2 populations approximation:
1 Cypriots+Slovenian @ 3,61938
2 Cypriots+German @ 3,657871
3 Cypriots+PL_GreaterPoland @ 3,691351
4 Georgia_Jews+German @ 3,740531
5 Albanian_Kosovo+Turk_Macedonia @ 3,744213
6 Albanian_Kosovo+Albanian_Kosovo @ 3,771053
7 Dutch+Georgia_Jews @ 3,782391
8 Greek+Turk_Macedonia @ 3,811916
9 Greek_Cappadocia+Slovenian @ 3,843666
10 British_Isles+Georgia_Jews @ 3,854604
11 Croat+Cypriots @ 3,855013
12 Turk_Macedonia+Turk_Macedonia @ 3,858765
13 English_Kent+Georgia_Jews @ 3,883962
14 Greek+Macedonian @ 3,884397
15 CEU30+Georgia_Jews @ 3,888002
16 Cypriots+Sorb_Lusatia @ 3,890612
17 English+Georgia_Jews @ 3,900315
18 Georgia_Jews+Mixed_NW_Euro @ 3,908588
19 Albanian_North+Turk_Macedonia @ 3,93953
20 Croat+Greek_Cappadocia @ 3,969592
21 Italy_Romagna+Turk_Macedonia @ 3,994077
22 Croat+Greek_Crete @ 3,999612
23 Gagauz+Greek @ 3,999987
24 French+Georgia_Jews @ 4,018428
25 Albanian_Kosovo+Greek @ 4,03199
26 Albanian_Kosovo+Albanian_North @ 4,059206
27 Cypriots+Slovak @ 4,086983
28 Albanian_Kosovo+Gagauz @ 4,088273
29 British+Georgia_Jews @ 4,093577
30 Albanian_Kosovo+Italy_Romagna @ 4,096379
56280 iterations.
Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Albanian_Kosovo +25% Georgia_Jews +25% German @ 3,141165
2 50% German +25% Cypriots +25% Georgia_Jews @ 3,141946
3 50% Italy_Romagna +25% Georgia_Jews +25% PL_GreaterPoland @ 3,181252
4 50% Italy_Tuscany +25% Georgia_Jews +25% PL_GreaterPoland @ 3,197324
5 50% Albanian_North +25% Georgia_Jews +25% German @ 3,237109
6 50% Italy_Trentino +25% Croat +25% Georgia_Jews @ 3,271589
7 50% Slovenian +25% Georgia_Jews +25% Greek @ 3,273165
8 50% Albanian_Kosovo +25% Georgia_Jews +25% Slovenian @ 3,284603
9 50% Italy_Romagna +25% Georgia_Jews +25% German @ 3,285884
10 50% Italy_Veneto +25% Croat +25% Georgia_Jews @ 3,290218
11 50% Albanian_North +25% Georgia_Jews +25% Slovenian @ 3,315523
12 50% Macedonian +25% Georgia_Jews +25% Italy_Trentino @ 3,322539
13 50% Italy_Trentino +25% Georgia_Jews +25% Macedonian @ 3,330671
14 50% Italy_Veneto +25% Georgia_Jews +25% Slovenian @ 3,333178
15 50% Croat +25% Georgia_Jews +25% Greek @ 3,339141
16 50% Albanian_Kosovo +25% Georgia_Jews +25% PL_GreaterPoland @ 3,340845
17 50% Croat +25% Georgia_Jews +25% Italy_Romagna @ 3,343102
18 50% Croat +25% Georgia_Jews +25% Italy_Tuscany @ 3,343539
19 50% Albanian_Kosovo +25% Dutch +25% Georgia_Jews @ 3,349422
20 50% Bavarian_German +25% Georgia_Jews +25% Greek @ 3,351211
21 50% Italy_Romagna +25% Georgia_Jews +25% Sorb_Lusatia @ 3,351372
22 50% Greek +25% Georgia_Jews +25% Swedish @ 3,363224
23 50% Italy_Romagna +25% Laz +25% PL_GreaterPoland @ 3,366572
24 50% Albanian_Kosovo +25% Georgia_Jews +25% Mixed_NW_Euro @ 3,369412
25 50% Albanian_Kosovo +25% Croat +25% Georgia_Jews @ 3,374932
26 50% Albanian_North +25% Croat +25% Georgia_Jews @ 3,375633
27 50% Italy_Tuscany +25% Georgia_Jews +25% German @ 3,376052
28 50% Albanian_Kosovo +25% Bavarian_German +25% Georgia_Jews @ 3,384243
29 50% Italy_Veneto +25% Georgia_Jews +25% PL_GreaterPoland @ 3,385529
30 50% Albanian_Kosovo +25% French +25% Georgia_Jews @ 3,38816
14136969 iterations.
Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Georgia_Jews+Greek+Italy_Trentino+PL_GreaterPoland @ 2,978989
2 Georgia_Jews+German+Greek+Italy_Trentino @ 3,013284
3 Georgia_Jews+German+Greek+Italy_Veneto @ 3,019521
4 Georgia_Jews+Greek+Italy_Veneto+PL_GreaterPoland @ 3,043098
5 Georgia_Jews+Greek+Italy_Trentino+Slovenian @ 3,044798
6 Georgia_Jews+Greek+PL_GreaterPoland+Swiss_Italian @ 3,093097
7 Georgia_Jews+Greek+Italy_Lombardy+PL_GreaterPoland @ 3,095429
8 Georgia_Jews+Greek+Italy_Tuscany+PL_GreaterPoland @ 3,097819
9 Croat+French+Georgia_Jews+Greek @ 3,109893
10 Croat+Georgia_Jews+Greek+Italy_Trentino @ 3,131021
11 Albanian_Kosovo+Georgia_Jews+German+Greek @ 3,13572
12 Georgia_Jews+Greek+Italy_Trentino+Sorb_Lusatia @ 3,138888
13 Albanian_Kosovo+Albanian_Kosovo+Georgia_Jews+Germa n @ 3,141165
14 Cypriots+Georgia_Jews+German+German @ 3,141946
15 Albanian_Kosovo+Georgia_Jews+German+Italy_Romagna @ 3,152202
16 Albanian_Kosovo+Croat+Georgia_Jews+Italy_Trentino @ 3,15228
17 Georgia_Jews+German+Greek+Italy_Tuscany @ 3,158146
18 Albanian_North+Georgia_Jews+German+Italy_Romagna @ 3,164504
19 Albanian_Kosovo+Georgia_Jews+Italy_Trentino+Sloven ian @ 3,167599
20 Georgia_Jews+Greek+Italy_Veneto+Slovenian @ 3,170049
21 Georgia_Jews+German+Greek+Macedonian @ 3,170841
22 Georgia_Jews+German+Greek+Swiss_Italian @ 3,172589
23 Albanian_Kosovo+Albanian_North+Georgia_Jews+German @ 3,1739
24 Georgia_Jews+Greek+Italy_Romagna+PL_GreaterPoland @ 3,174502
25 Albanian_North+Croat+Georgia_Jews+Italy_Trentino @ 3,17636
26 Albanian_Kosovo+Georgia_Jews+German+Italy_Tuscany @ 3,176805
27 French+Georgia_Jews+Greek+Slovenian @ 3,177424
28 Georgia_Jews+Italy_Romagna+Italy_Tuscany+PL_Greate rPoland @ 3,18016
29 Albanian_Kosovo+Georgia_Jews+Italy_Tuscany+PL_Grea terPoland @ 3,180906
30 Georgia_Jews+Italy_Romagna+Italy_Romagna+PL_Greate rPoland @ 3,181252
31 Albanian_North+Georgia_Jews+German+Greek @ 3,181547
32 Croat+Georgia_Jews+German+Greek @ 3,183466
33 Georgia_Jews+German+Greek+Italy_FriuliVG @ 3,189018
34 Albanian_Kosovo+Georgia_Jews+German+Italy_Veneto @ 3,189528
35 Georgia_Jews+Greek+Italy_Veneto+Sorb_Lusatia @ 3,189968
36 Georgia_Jews+Greek+Slovenian+Swiss_Italian @ 3,191378
37 Georgia_Jews+Greek+Italy_Piedmont+PL_GreaterPoland @ 3,191448
38 Georgia_Jews+Greek+Italy_FriuliVG+PL_GreaterPoland @ 3,193208
39 Albanian_North+Georgia_Jews+German+Italy_Tuscany @ 3,193426
40 Georgia_Jews+German+Greek+Italy_Romagna @ 3,193572
41 Albanian_North+Georgia_Jews+Italy_Tuscany+PL_Great erPoland @ 3,194352
42 Bavarian_German+Georgia_Jews+Greek+Slovenian @ 3,197123
43 Georgia_Jews+Italy_Tuscany+Italy_Tuscany+PL_Greate rPoland @ 3,197324
44 Bavarian_German+Croat+Georgia_Jews+Greek @ 3,19767
45 Georgia_Jews+German+Greek+Italy_Lombardy @ 3,198848
46 Albanian_Kosovo+Georgia_Jews+Italy_Romagna+PL_Grea terPoland @ 3,199257
47 Georgia_Jews+Italy_Romagna+Italy_Trentino+PL_Great erPoland @ 3,199639
48 Georgia_Jews+Italy_Romagna+Italy_Veneto+PL_Greater Poland @ 3,200234
49 Albanian_North+Georgia_Jews+Italy_Trentino+Sloveni an @ 3,207439
50 Albanian_North+Georgia_Jews+Italy_Romagna+PL_Great erPoland @ 3,209162
51 Albanian_Kosovo+Georgia_Jews+Italy_Veneto+Slovenia n @ 3,209407
52 Georgia_Jews+Greek+Italy_Emilia+PL_GreaterPoland @ 3,211669
53 Croat+French2+Georgia_Jews+Greek @ 3,213903
54 Cypriots+French+Georgia_Jews+PL_GreaterPoland @ 3,216464
55 Croat+Georgia_Jews+Italy_Romagna+Italy_Trentino @ 3,223459
56 Albanian_North+Georgia_Jews+Italy_Veneto+Slovenian @ 3,224833
57 Georgia_Jews+Italy_Romagna+Italy_Trentino+Slovenia n @ 3,22727
58 Georgia_Jews+Greek+Italy_Aosta_Valley+PL_GreaterPo land @ 3,23079
59 Albanian_North+Georgia_Jews+German+Italy_Veneto @ 3,23114
60 Georgia_Jews+Greek+Italy_Tuscany+Sorb_Lusatia @ 3,234282
216634130 iterations.
Can you post your ss for this model? This also supports your previous claims about the difference between early and late Turkic migrations.
Kaspias
09-05-2020, 01:44 PM
Can you post your ss for this model? This also supports your previous claims about the difference between early and late Turkic migrations.
Eurogenes K13:
Slavic,29.0666666666667,43.6966666666667,12.056666 6666667,5.82666666666667,4.68666666666667,0.736666 666666667,0.163333333333333,0,2.05,0.8366666666666 67,0.223333333333333,0.633333333333333,0
Paleo-Balkan:I9006_Greece_Mycenaean_3287_ybp,8.75,3.2 4,32.05,13.71,37.05,3.81,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.80,0.58, 0.00,0.00
Paleo-Balkan:2,19.4060137457045,11.9784536082474,22.5807 216494845,12.9228865979381,26.8988659793814,5.5992 0962199313,-0.0213745704467353,0.468213058419244,-0.591752577319588,0.21381443298969,0.6786597938144 34,-0.13127147766323,0
Paleo-Balkan:BGR_IA,25.28,3.38,29.68,9.14,27.88,4.63,0,0 ,0,0,0,0,0
Turkic_Oghuz:Gokturk_DA89_Kazakhstan_607th_AD,23.3 4,24.27,0,17.19,0,0,0,5.24,26.14,0,0,0,3.81
https://i.ibb.co/F5tDFYY/Ads-z.png
You can also add this:
Turkic_Kipchak:DA142_620-920_AD,18.7,25.79,3.41,17.67,0,0,2.23,4.66,25.32,1 .99,0.22,0,0
Thracian
09-05-2020, 01:59 PM
Eurogenes K13:
Slavic,29.0666666666667,43.6966666666667,12.056666 6666667,5.82666666666667,4.68666666666667,0.736666 666666667,0.163333333333333,0,2.05,0.8366666666666 67,0.223333333333333,0.633333333333333,0
Paleo-Balkan:I9006_Greece_Mycenaean_3287_ybp,8.75,3.2 4,32.05,13.71,37.05,3.81,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.80,0.58, 0.00,0.00
Paleo-Balkan:2,19.4060137457045,11.9784536082474,22.5807 216494845,12.9228865979381,26.8988659793814,5.5992 0962199313,-0.0213745704467353,0.468213058419244,-0.591752577319588,0.21381443298969,0.6786597938144 34,-0.13127147766323,0
Paleo-Balkan:BGR_IA,25.28,3.38,29.68,9.14,27.88,4.63,0,0 ,0,0,0,0,0
Turkic_Oghuz:Gokturk_DA89_Kazakhstan_607th_AD,23.3 4,24.27,0,17.19,0,0,0,5.24,26.14,0,0,0,3.81
https://i.ibb.co/F5tDFYY/Ads-z.png
You can also add this:
Turkic_Kipchak:DA142_620-920_AD,18.7,25.79,3.41,17.67,0,0,2.23,4.66,25.32,1 .99,0.22,0,0
Target: Thracian
Distance: 670.2118% / 6.70211839 | ADC: 0.25x
76.2 Paleo-Balkan
19.8 Turkic_Oghuz
4.0 Slavic
With Kipchaks
Target: Thracian
Distance: 660.9455% / 6.60945481 | ADC: 0.25x
75.4 Paleo-Balkan
17.0 Turkic_Kipchak
4.0 Turkic_Oghuz
3.6 Slavic
Who are Paleo-Balkan 2? And also interestingly your mother scores some Turkic as well (around 1/8). Is that possible?
Two Georgians (close relatives), presumably some kind of highlanders
Gedrosia 20.27 Pct
Siberian 0.43 Pct
Northwest_African -
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 7.08 Pct
North_European 17.60 Pct
South_Asian 1.59 Pct
East_African 0.06 Pct
Southwest_Asian 5.09 Pct
East_Asian 0.39 Pct
Caucasus 47.48 Pct
Sub_Saharan -
Distance to: Liana
4.50023333 Circassian
4.96320461 Ossetian
5.45705965 Ingush
6.82762770 Kumyks
7.19978472 Karachay
7.26558325 Balkar
7.61148474 Chechen
8.96039620 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
10.14702419 Abkhazian
11.81879435 Udi_Azerbaijan
Target: Liana
Distance: 1.9145% / 1.91449916 | ADC: 0.25x
50.4 Chechen
18.8 Abkhazian
18.4 Turk_Ahiska
6.0 Circassian
4.4 Greek
2.0 Balkan_Gypsy
Gedrosia 21.94 Pct
Siberian -
Northwest_African -
Southeast_Asian 0.27 Pct
Atlantic_Med 7.08 Pct
North_European 15.62 Pct
South_Asian 0.55 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 5.47 Pct
East_Asian 0.15 Pct
Caucasus 48.93 Pct
Sub_Saharan -
Distance to: Kh.
5.69028119 Circassian
6.34848013 Ossetian
6.75974112 Ingush
8.32046273 Kumyks
8.45599787 Abkhazian
9.30246741 Karachay
9.50054209 Chechen
9.53611556 Balkar
9.62829684 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
9.83135291 Turk_Ahiska
Target: Kh.
Distance: 3.0406% / 3.04062463 | ADC: 0.5x
59.0 Ingush
23.2 Turk_Ahiska
17.8 Abkhazian
Target: Kh.
Distance: 2.2512% / 2.25118831 | ADC: 0.25x
49.6 Chechen
43.4 Turk_Ahiska
5.8 Abkhazian
1.2 Georgian_Gurian
* * *
Some type of Northwest Caucasian
Gedrosia 17.51 Pct
Siberian 4.23 Pct
Northwest_African -
Southeast_Asian 0.51 Pct
Atlantic_Med 5.67 Pct
North_European 17.25 Pct
South_Asian -
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 4.68 Pct
East_Asian 1.12 Pct
Caucasus 49.02 Pct
Sub_Saharan -
Distance to: Yelena
2.35346553 Ossetian
2.73654892 Circassian
5.60675485 Kumyks
5.91892727 Balkar
6.14770689 Karachay
6.96239183 Ingush
8.95866620 Abkhazian
9.34285288 Chechen
11.12320547 North_Ossetians
11.63539858 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
Target: Yelena
Distance: 1.9623% / 1.96231999 | ADC: 0.5x
96.6 Ossetian
1.8 Georgian_Gurian
1.6 Samaritians
Target: Yelena
Distance: 1.5451% / 1.54512733 | ADC: 0.25x
86.4 Ossetian
6.2 Georgian_Gurian
3.2 North_Ossetians
2.4 Samaritians
1.4 Bulgarians
0.4 Selkup
Kaspias
09-05-2020, 04:06 PM
Target: Thracian
Distance: 670.2118% / 6.70211839 | ADC: 0.25x
76.2 Paleo-Balkan
19.8 Turkic_Oghuz
4.0 Slavic
With Kipchaks
Target: Thracian
Distance: 660.9455% / 6.60945481 | ADC: 0.25x
75.4 Paleo-Balkan
17.0 Turkic_Kipchak
4.0 Turkic_Oghuz
3.6 Slavic
Who are Paleo-Balkan 2? And also interestingly your mother scores some Turkic as well (around 1/8). Is that possible?
Paleo Balkan 2 is Slavic extracted version of modern Vlach. (from Macedonia)
Well, it may be a glitch of the phased kit or could be legit as well. Unfortunately, I can't say surely until test my mother. Both options seems possible tbh.
If we go with genealogy, that's all I know:
https://i.ibb.co/6D0Y4DX/Ads-z.png
Thracian
09-05-2020, 08:02 PM
Paleo Balkan 2 is Slavic extracted version of modern Vlach. (from Macedonia)
Well, it may be a glitch of the phased kit or could be legit as well. Unfortunately, I can't say surely until test my mother. Both options seems possible tbh.
If we go with genealogy, that's all I know:
https://i.ibb.co/6D0Y4DX/Ads-z.png
According to this one, 1/8 Turkic ancestry looks possible but as you mentioned a DNA test can clarify it. I hope, you will get the chance to take a test for your mother as well. That would be very interesting to see her results.
Iranian result (50% Azerbaijani from Urmia + 50% Tat from Qazvin province):
Gedrosian: 21.14
Siberian: 3.48
Northwest_African: 1.38
Southeast_Asian: 0.00
Atlantic_Med: 10.03
North_European: 8.89
South_Asian 4.97
East_African 1.01
Southwest_Asian: 12.47
East_Asian: 0.45
Caucasian: 35.49
SSA: 0.00
Distance to: Urmia/Takestan
5.25806999 Azerbaijani
5.53018987 Azerbaijani_Iran
6.02420119 Turk_Southeast
6.56620895 Azerbaijani_Turkey
6.79015464 Kurd_Kurmanji
7.58364688 Kurd_Sorani
7.78760554 Turkmen_Iraq
8.50411665 Zaza
8.87653085 Turk_South
8.88563447 Iranian_Fars
9.12322860 Turk_Central_East
9.36827092 Talysh_Azerbaijan
9.85841772 Turk_Central_West
9.86299650 Iran_Khorasan
9.86586540 Turk_Anatolia
10.32331342 Lur_Iran
10.73127206 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
10.80138417 Iranian
11.55731370 Turk_Southwest
11.69616176 Turk_East
11.74518199 Turk_West_BlackSea
11.79781759 Kurd_KAZ
11.89698701 Udi_Azerbaijan
12.47881004 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
12.88814572 Yoruk
Target: Urmia/Takestan
Distance: 1.6724% / 1.67243520 | ADC: 0.25x
38.6 Turk_Southeast
35.2 Kurd_Kurmanji
17.0 Parsi_India
4.4 Turk_Macedonia
1.8 Italy_Sicily
1.8 Selkup
RatCat
09-06-2020, 09:53 AM
Circassian
Population
Gedrosia 21.27 Pct
Siberian 2.78 Pct
Northwest_African -
Southeast_Asian 0.56 Pct
Atlantic_Med 4.08 Pct
North_European 16.81 Pct
South_Asian -
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 3.05 Pct
East_Asian 1.67 Pct
Caucasus 49.78 Pct
Sub_Saharan -
Distance to:
3.19339944 Circassian
3.79282217 Ossetian
4.92394151 Kumyks
6.03865879 Ingush
7.49474483 Balkar
7.89153977 Karachay
7.91037294 Abkhazian
8.41347728 Chechen
10.34568509 North_Ossetians
10.84359719 Georgian_Svan
10.92646329 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
12.07954055 Georgian_Gurian
12.33971637 Turk_Ahiska
14.06069700 Georgian_Mingrelian
14.17080097 Udi_Azerbaijan
14.27986344 Georgian_Imereti
14.76107042 Qumuq
14.94340657 Lezgin
15.54656554 Turk_East
16.01290417 Avar_Dagestan
16.10487504 Georgian_Turkey
16.24296771 Azerbaijani_Turkey
16.53167263 Talysh_Azerbaijan
17.11848416 Georgian_Adjara
17.19620888 Avar
Distance: 0.9466% / 0.94661669 | ADC: 0.25x
38.0 Ingush
23.2 Georgian_Svan
21.8 Circassian
8.6 North_Ossetians
6.0 Chechen
2.4 Kumyks
These might be two Uyğurs (siblings or cousins)
Gedrosia 17.35 Pct
Siberian 12.40 Pct
Northwest_African -
Southeast_Asian 4.30 Pct
Atlantic_Med 4.23 Pct
North_European 12.58 Pct
South_Asian 7.61 Pct
East_African 0.21 Pct
Southwest_Asian 3.21 Pct
East_Asian 24.52 Pct
Caucasus 13.59 Pct
Sub_Saharan -
Distance to: Pasha
7.40824541 Uzbeks
8.36297196 Uzbek
8.74383211 Uygur
9.76410774 Hazara
13.59982353 Turkmen_Uzbekistan
14.20712849 Karakalpak
20.02022727 Kazakh
20.42935388 Crimean_Tatar_Steppe
22.03228313 Kyrgyz
23.43950938 Kyrgyz_Bishkek
Target: Pasha
Distance: 1.1487% / 1.14870700 | ADC: 0.25x
36.6 Uygur
34.2 Uzbek
19.0 Hazara
5.8 Balkan_Gypsy
2.4 Garo
1.4 Bnei_Menashe_Jews
0.6 Yemenese
Target: Pasha
Distance: 2.8644% / 2.86441576 | ADC: 0.5x
48.0 Uzbek
36.2 Uygur
13.6 Hazara
1.2 Bnei_Menashe_Jews
1.0 Khasi
Gedrosia 17.94 Pct
Siberian 12.12 Pct
Northwest_African 0.30 Pct
Southeast_Asian 4.71 Pct
Atlantic_Med 2.57 Pct
North_European 14.76 Pct
South_Asian 9.22 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 2.36 Pct
East_Asian 21.68 Pct
Caucasus 14.25 Pct
Sub_Saharan 0.09 Pct
Target: Yashar
Distance: 1.6145% / 1.61449765 | ADC: 0.25x
64.2 Uzbek
23.8 Uygur
6.4 Brahmins_from_Uttaranchal
2.0 Khasi
2.0 Uzbeks
1.6 BONDA
Target: Yashar
Distance: 2.6107% / 2.61072884 | ADC: 0.5x
71.2 Uzbek
21.0 Uygur
6.0 Brahmins_from_Uttaranchal
1.8 Khasi
Their East Eurasian is more Sinitic.
Bender1999
09-06-2020, 03:45 PM
Uyghurs are the most South Asian Turkics, maybe some in Chorasan have more but they have a lot of them although they aren’t mixed.
Uyghurs are the most South Asian Turkics, maybe some in Chorasan have more but they have a lot of them although they aren’t mixed.
Iranian Turkmens have 5-6 on average like other Turkmens. Uzbeks have 5 too.
Bender1999
09-06-2020, 03:57 PM
Iranian Turkmens have 5-6 on average like other Turkmens. Uzbeks have 5 too.
Yes because of that it’s interesting, Uyghurs have more south asian, although Turkmens and Uzbeks have neighbors with 10-20% south asian.
Yes because of that it’s interesting, Uyghurs have more south asian, although Turkmens and Uzbeks have neighbors with 10-20% south asian.
(Hazara 6.51)
Turkmen_Iran 5.99
Turkmen 5.96
Uyghur 5.27
Turkmen Uzbekistan 5.08
Uzbek 5.03
Turkmen Afghanistan 4.35
Karakalpak 2.78
Azerbaijani 2.20
Azerbaijani Iran 2.66
Kyrgyz 2.65
Azerbaijani Turkey 2.50
Turkmen_Iraq 2.04
Bashkir 1.87
Kazakh 1.68
Turk_Anatolia 1.65
Chuvash 0.97
Turk_Balkans 0.90
Karachay 0.80
Kumyk 0.63
Kalmyk 0.62
Nogay 0.61
Buryat 0.59
Ahiska 0.43
Balkar 0.26
Yakut 0.01
Halgurd
09-06-2020, 04:04 PM
I think most of that south asian is shared ancestry. I highly doubt that it is actual ASI. Kurds and Iranians score a lot too.
Bender1999
09-06-2020, 04:04 PM
(Hazara 6.51)
Turkmen_Iran 5.99
Turkmen 5.96
Uyghur 5.27
Turkmen Uzbekistan 5.08
Uzbek 5.03
Turkmen Afghanistan 4.35
Karakalpak 2.78
Azerbaijani 2.20
Azerbaijani Iran 2.66
Kyrgyz 2.65
Azerbaijani Turkey 2.50
Turkmen_Iraq 2.04
Bashkir 1.87
Kazakh 1.68
Turk_Anatolia 1.65
Chuvash 0.97
Turk_Balkans 0.90
Karachay 0.80
Kumyk 0.63
Kalmyk 0.62
Nogay 0.61
Buryat 0.59
Ahiska 0.43
Balkar 0.26
Yakut 0.01
Hmm, i saw several Uyghur results and they were all over 5% south asian?
The East Iranics in Central Asia must've had a lot of that before the Turkic conquest, probably close to what many Afghans have now because Mongols don't have much South Asian.
Yes because of that it’s interesting, Uyghurs have more south asian, although Turkmens and Uzbeks have neighbors with 10-20% south asian.
It sort of correlates with the level of Mongoloid. Kyrgyz and Kazakhs normally have half the amount Uzbeks have.
Bender1999
09-06-2020, 04:20 PM
The East Iranics in Central Asia must've had a lot of that before the Turkic conquest, probably close to what many Afghans have now because Mongols don't have much South Asian.
Gedrosia 18.88 Pct
Siberian 24.88 Pct
Northwest_African -
Southeast_Asian 2.10 Pct
Atlantic_Med 3.41 Pct
North_European 13.24 Pct
South_Asian 2.83 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian -
East_Asian 22.84 Pct
Caucasus 11.34 Pct
Sub_Saharan 0.49 Pct
Gedrosia 16.69 Pct
Siberian 17.85 Pct
Northwest_African -
Southeast_Asian 1.38 Pct
Atlantic_Med 5.69 Pct
North_European 17.11 Pct
South_Asian -
East_African -
Southwest_Asian -
East_Asian 27.18 Pct
Caucasus 13.26 Pct
Sub_Saharan 0.83 Pct
It could true, but it seems they had nearly the same Gedrosia. Also Karluks were a bit more European. Honestly i don’t know it is good to compare them with Uighurs.
Bender1999
09-06-2020, 04:20 PM
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It could true, but it seems they had nearly the same Gedrosia. Also Karluks were a bit more European. Honestly i dont know it is good to compare them with Uighurs.
Yes and Sogdians and Bactrians should have been at least 10% on average. I also wonder how swarthy they were.
Racial differences
Description
A Caucasian Central Asian monk, possibly an Indo-European Sogdian or Tocharian, teaching an East Asian monk, perhaps a Turkic Uyghur or Chinese, on a 9th-century AD fresco from the Bezeklik Thousand Buddha Caves near Turfan, Xinjiang, China. A detail from Praņidhi scene no. 5 in Temple no. 9.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b8/Central_Asian_Buddhist_Monks.jpeg
Most modern Tajiks do not look like the guy on the left, they are darker than an average Turk of Turkey.
It sort of correlates with the level of Mongoloid. Kyrgyz and Kazakhs normally have half the amount Uzbeks have.
Hazara have the most and higher East Eurasian. Obviously because they live to the south but I just wanted to point out it's not a correlation in all cases.
Bender1999
09-06-2020, 05:03 PM
Yes and Sogdians and Bactrians should have been at least 10% on average. I also wonder how swarthy they were.
Racial differences
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b8/Central_Asian_Buddhist_Monks.jpeg
Most modern Tajiks do not look like the guy on the left, they are darker than an average Turk of Turkey.
Afghan Tadjiks maybe, but Uzbekistan and Tadjikistan Tadjiks are very diverse and have more or less the same skinn tone like Turks.
The early IEs of nowadays Xinjiang probably looked like them, maybe a bit lighter generally.
Afghan Tadjiks maybe, but Uzbekistan and Tadjikistan Tadjiks are very diverse and have more or less the same skinn tone like Turks.
The early IEs of nowadays Xinjiang probably looked like them, maybe a bit lighter generally.
No, they are darker than Turks on average and I doubt the early IE looked like them.
Anyway, this is a rather pointless discussion. Without factual evidence it's all speculation.
Bender1999
09-06-2020, 05:29 PM
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Giresun Turk:
Gedrosian: 14.46
Siberian: 6.91
Northwest_African: 0.46
Southeast_Asian: 0.33
Atlantic_Med: 11.27
North_European: 10.88
South_Asian 1.36
East_African 0.00
Southwest_Asian: 10.42
East_Asian: 7.69
Caucasian: 36.23
South_African: 0.00
Distance to: Giresun
3.69342659 Turk_South
3.76418650 Turk_Southwest
4.10554503 Turk_Anatolia
4.46941831 Yoruk
4.55664350 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
5.02855844 Turk_Central_West
5.65092028 Turk_West_BlackSea
6.08226109 Turk_Northwest
6.79606504 Turk_Central_East
8.17814160 Turk_Southeast
9.68167857 Azerbaijani
9.80674768 Azerbaijani_Turkey
11.36563241 Azerbaijani_Iran
13.59073949 Crimean_Tatar_Mountain
13.62049926 Turk_East
14.68858060 Turkmen_Iraq
14.75797073 Karachay
14.96386314 Kurd_Kurmanji
15.34541300 Turkmen_Iran
15.46831600 Zaza
15.94553543 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
15.97118969 Udi_Azerbaijan
16.24767368 Balkar
16.40297839 Crimean_Tatar_Coast
16.40675166 Iran_Khorasan
Target: Giresun
Distance: 1.0681% / 1.06812498 | ADC: 0.25x
46.8 Turk_South
21.8 Turk_Southwest
17.2 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
8.6 Yoruk
3.2 Nogais
1.8 Daur
0.6 Mongol
Assyrian from Turkey:
Gedrosian: 16.63
Siberian: 0.00
Northwest_African: 0.42
Southeast_Asian: 1.01
Atlantic_Med: 10.64
North_European: 3.47
South_Asian 0.00
East_African 1.79
Southwest_Asian: 19.42
East_Asian: 0.00
Caucasian: 46.62
Sub-Saharan: 0.00
Distance to: Turkish_Assyrian
4.53423643 Assyrian
5.18182400 Armenian_West
5.47547258 Uzbekistan_Jews
6.71784192 Georgia_Jews
7.05710989 Iraq_Jews
7.12395957 Azerbaijan_Jews
7.33517553 Iranian_Jews
7.52362280 Armenian_East
8.39458754 Nusayri_Turkey
9.02641125 Turk_East
10.00808173 Druze
10.01173312 Lebanese
10.46283900 Udi_Azerbaijan
11.01012716 Turkmen_Iraq
11.12701667 Greek_Pontus
11.51369619 Greek_Cappadocia
11.57982297 Zaza
11.79634689 Turk_East_Black_Sea
12.67178362 Turk_Southeast
12.76455640 Kurd_Kurmanji
13.01948540 Kurd_Sorani
13.16325568 Syrians
13.20559730 Turk_Central_East
13.30109770 Hemshin
13.36752034 Azerbaijani_Turkey
Target: Turkish_Assyrian
Distance: 1.3676% / 1.36758825 | ADC: 0.25x
44.6 Armenian_West
15.6 Syrians
14.0 Assyrian
13.8 Uzbekistan_Jews
9.6 Georgia_Jews
1.2 Lebanese
Turk from Sereflikochisa (Ankara):
Gedrosian: 18.18
Siberian: 5.23
Northwest_African: 2.48
Southeast_Asian: 0.33
Atlantic_Med: 11.58
North_European: 8.32
South_Asian 1.89
East_African 0.00
Southwest_Asian: 10.85
East_Asian: 4.79
Caucasian: 36.45
Sub-Saharan: 0.00
Distance to: Turk_Seref
3.80519382 Turk_South
4.64754774 Turk_Southeast
4.95144423 Turk_Anatolia
5.28043559 Turk_Central_East
5.37050277 Turk_Central_West
5.42288669 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
5.76173585 Azerbaijani
6.01933551 Azerbaijani_Turkey
6.67340992 Turk_Southwest
6.94130391 Azerbaijani_Iran
7.42757026 Yoruk
7.64643708 Turk_West_BlackSea
9.25927643 Turk_Northwest
10.08930622 Kurd_Kurmanji
10.19250215 Turkmen_Iraq
10.82927052 Turk_East
10.95900087 Zaza
11.77530467 Kurd_Sorani
12.18466249 Talysh_Azerbaijan
12.57638263 Udi_Azerbaijan
13.25079620 Iran_Khorasan
13.85133929 Iranian_Fars
14.04060540 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
14.16344238 Lur_Iran
14.43989612 Iranian
Target: Turk_Seref
Distance: 1.3393% / 1.33933589 | ADC: 0.25x
48.2 Turk_South
20.2 Yoruk
16.4 Azerbaijani_Iran
10.0 Lur_Iran
2.6 Azerbaijani_Turkey
1.4 Sardinian
"European" admixture in West Asia + Central Asia (according to Dodecadk12b):
https://i.imgur.com/W0cRJZN.png
Anyone has data on Pakistan (Punjabis)?
Test these three Kuwait averages:
KuwaitAvg,5.56,0.60,3.84,0.49,5.45,1.03,1.32,4.88, 47.96,0.25,27.16,1.47
Kuwait1,7.11,0.69,4.10,0.57,5.49,1.31,1.64,5.48,43 .65,0.25,27.62,2.09
Kuwait2,2.37,0.42,3.30,0.31,5.36,0.45,0.67,3.65,56 .80,0.26,26.23,0.19
Which one is to be added? Looks like Kuwait has a huge non-indigenous population, including Blacks
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/ef/Kuwaityouth5020.jpg/1280px-Kuwaityouth5020.jpg
Don't know what she is. Uzbek with recent European?
Gedrosia 17.85 Pct
Siberian 11.02 Pct
Northwest_African -
Southeast_Asian 3.00 Pct
Atlantic_Med 9.16 Pct
North_European 22.81 Pct
South_Asian 5.58 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 1.54 Pct
East_Asian 19.09 Pct
Caucasus 9.95 Pct
Sub_Saharan -
Target: Indira
Distance: 2.0549% / 2.05486781 | ADC: 0.25x
43.8 Uzbek
28.4 Uygur
10.8 Norwegian
8.8 Bashkir
3.8 Argyll
3.8 Jatt
0.6 Brahmins_from_Uttaranchal
Bender1999
09-07-2020, 08:49 PM
Don't know what she is. Uzbek with recent European?
Gedrosia 17.85 Pct
Siberian 11.02 Pct
Northwest_African -
Southeast_Asian 3.00 Pct
Atlantic_Med 9.16 Pct
North_European 22.81 Pct
South_Asian 5.58 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 1.54 Pct
East_Asian 19.09 Pct
Caucasus 9.95 Pct
Sub_Saharan -
Target: Indira
Distance: 2.0549% / 2.05486781 | ADC: 0.25x
43.8 Uzbek
28.4 Uygur
10.8 Norwegian
8.8 Bashkir
3.8 Argyll
3.8 Jatt
0.6 Brahmins_from_Uttaranchal
Or Central Asian with some Tatar roots.
Kaspias
09-08-2020, 09:02 AM
Bulgarian Turk from Deliorman
23andme (v5.9)
https://i.ibb.co/x2HJBHD/jePPbJQ.jpg
K12b
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 North_European 32.53
2 Caucasus 24.14
3 Atlantic_Med 22.94
4 Gedrosia 7.8
5 Siberian 3.93
6 Southwest_Asian 3.78
7 East_Asian 3.48
8 South_Asian 0.68
9 Northwest_African 0.42
10 East_African 0.3
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Romanians (Behar) 8.77
2 Bulgarian (Dodecad) 9.01
3 Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) 9.94
4 O_Italian (Dodecad) 16.08
5 Hungarians (Behar) 17.63
6 Greek (Dodecad) 19.22
7 N_Italian (Dodecad) 19.86
8 TSI30 (Metspalu) 20.73
9 Tuscan (HGDP) 20.79
10 C_Italian (Dodecad) 20.89
11 German (Dodecad) 22.16
12 North_Italian (HGDP) 22.93
13 Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) 24.87
14 Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) 24.91
15 S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) 25.09
16 Sicilian (Dodecad) 25.16
17 French (Dodecad) 25.19
18 French (HGDP) 25.36
19 Ashkenazi (Dodecad) 25.36
20 Nogais (Yunusbayev) 26.52
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 85.4% Romanians (Behar) + 14.6% Hazara (HGDP) @ 3.98
2 82.3% Romanians (Behar) + 17.7% Uzbeks (Behar) @ 4.04
3 50.6% Turkish (Dodecad) + 49.4% Swedish (Dodecad) @ 4.35
4 88.9% Romanians (Behar) + 11.1% Altai (Rasmussen) @ 4.49
5 50.9% Turkish (Dodecad) + 49.1% Norwegian (Dodecad) @ 4.53
6 85.3% Romanians (Behar) + 14.7% Uygur (HGDP) @ 4.63
7 60% German (Dodecad) + 40% Turks (Behar) @ 4.73
8 58.8% German (Dodecad) + 41.2% Turkish (Dodecad) @ 4.77
9 85.7% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 14.3% Hazara (HGDP) @ 4.89
10 90% Romanians (Behar) + 10% Mongol (Rasmussen) @ 4.94
11 50.3% Norwegian (Dodecad) + 49.7% Turks (Behar) @ 4.94
12 82.8% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 17.2% Uzbeks (Behar) @ 4.99
13 67.6% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 32.4% Chuvashs (Behar) @ 5.01
14 50.6% Swedish (Dodecad) + 49.4% Turks (Behar) @ 5.01
15 82.3% Romanians (Behar) + 17.7% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) @ 5.03
16 89% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 11% Altai (Rasmussen) @ 5.04
17 64.6% Hungarians (Behar) + 35.4% Turkish (Dodecad) @ 5.05
18 65.8% Hungarians (Behar) + 34.2% Turks (Behar) @ 5.07
19 90.8% Romanians (Behar) + 9.2% Tuva (Rasmussen) @ 5.08
20 91.1% Romanians (Behar) + 8.9% Buryat (Rasmussen) @ 5.1
Apparently a Northern Indian with a British (?) grandparent. Interestingly she is quite light-skinned (photo (https://scontent.fhrk1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/fr/cp0/e15/q65/94065399_10157047135382093_1862424306332467200_n.j pg?_nc_cat=111&_nc_sid=85a577&efg=eyJpIjoidCJ9&_nc_eui2=AeHopGs1jG8qbAkhNr3gWimUWIx_Xv90K4xYjH9e_ 3QrjGtTqd4xQexdyQHE7_zKu-B2krg6dkJQdD9vh0h8ldM1&_nc_ohc=KOR42EzScdYAX9ibxqZ&_nc_ht=scontent.fhrk1-1.fna&tp=14&oh=a1fef59e52c15e125fa64e6666307916&oe=5F7C1A5F))
Gedrosia 29.05 Pct
Siberian 0.20 Pct
Northwest_African -
Southeast_Asian 2.00 Pct
Atlantic_Med 13.74 Pct
North_European 16.93 Pct
South_Asian 32.96 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian -
East_Asian 0.40 Pct
Caucasus 4.72 Pct
Sub_Saharan -
Target: Ayesha
Distance: 1.9580% / 1.95795802 | ADC: 0.25x
73.6 Brahmins_from_Uttar_Pradesh
16.0 Cataluna
6.8 French
2.8 Pashtun_Yusafzai
0.8 Cambodians
Russian Gypsy/Ruska Roma
Gedrosia 14.44 Pct
Siberian 0.16 Pct
Northwest_African 0.83 Pct
Southeast_Asian 0.76 Pct
Atlantic_Med 14.53 Pct
North_European 19.27 Pct
South_Asian 20.69 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 6.73 Pct
East_Asian 1.38 Pct
Caucasus 21.20 Pct
Sub_Saharan -
Distance to: Regina
6.85014598 Balkan_Gypsy
22.86439590 Tajik_Herat
23.03222959 Tajik_Tajikistan
23.82140424 Tajik_Kabul
24.01504737 Yagnobi
24.10082779 Pamiri_Ishkashim
24.13857701 Pamiri_Shughnan
24.17407082 Pamiri_Rushan
24.19122982 Crimean_Tatar_Mountain
24.39763923 Turk_Romania
Target: Regina
Distance: 1.7757% / 1.77566816 | ADC: 0.25x
86.2 Balkan_Gypsy
9.4 Latvian
2.4 Brahmins_from_Uttaranchal
2.0 Brahmins_from_Uttar_Pradesh
Khorasan Persian:
Gedrosian: 31.04
Siberian: 2.85
Northwest_African: 0.52
Southeast_Asian: 0.00
Atlantic_Med: 5.09
North_European: 11.54
South_Asian 5.29
East_African 0.00
Southwest_Asian: 10.21
East_Asian: 1.02
Caucasian: 31.36
Sub-Saharan: 1.07
Distance to: Khorasani
6.55125179 Iran_Khorasan
8.69645330 Iranian_Fars
9.61329288 Turkmens
10.14876840 Iran_Mazandaran
11.23224377 Iranian
11.52803973 Turkmen_Iran
12.21161742 Tajik_Herat
12.50325558 Lur_Iran
12.50906871 Iran_Bandari
13.15481281 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
13.24852822 Kurd_Sorani
13.26044117 Talysh_Azerbaijan
13.26223963 Kurd_Kurmanji
13.33145153 Azerbaijani_Iran
13.63254928 Parsi_India
13.95686569 Azerbaijani
14.26894881 Kurd_KAZ
14.29728995 Lezgin
14.92388689 Zaza
15.03873332 Yagnobi
15.35936522 Azerbaijani_Turkey
15.45794941 Turkmen_Iraq
16.50094543 Tajik_Tajikistan
16.90444912 Turk_Southeast
16.97971437 Qumuq
Target: Khorasani
Distance: 1.6725% / 1.67245387 | ADC: 0.25x
30.2 Yagnobi
18.8 Iranian_Fars
17.4 Iran_Mazandaran
16.8 Iranian
12.2 Iran_Bandari
4.6 Turkmens
Armenian with slightly elevated North European
Gedrosia 19.03 Pct
Siberian -
Northwest_African 0.75 Pct
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 10.86 Pct
North_European 7.65 Pct
South_Asian -
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 13.99 Pct
East_Asian -
Caucasus 47.71 Pct
Sub_Saharan -
Distance to: V.G.
3.17335784 Armenian_East
3.82933415 Turk_East
3.97526100 Udi_Azerbaijan
5.62490889 Armenian_West
7.09645686 Uzbekistan_Jews
7.75241253 Turk_Ahiska
8.24759359 Zaza
8.66960783 Turk_East_Black_Sea
8.71562390 Georgia_Jews
8.83151176 Assyrian
Target: V.G.
Distance: 1.0134% / 1.01344468 | ADC: 0.25x
50.4 Armenian_East
44.0 Udi_Azerbaijan
2.4 Armenian_West
2.4 Greek_Crete
0.8 Saudis
Target: V.G.
Distance: 1.3648% / 1.36477974 | ADC: 0.5x
55.8 Armenian_East
42.2 Udi_Azerbaijan
1.8 Nusayri_Turkey
0.2 Lebanese
Target: V.G.
Distance: 1.5679% / 1.56792558 | ADC: 1x
63.4 Armenian_East
36.6 Udi_Azerbaijan
Also gloriously 100% Caucasoid :cool:
Bender1999
09-08-2020, 07:52 PM
result from Bursa, probably of Nogay or Tatar descendant
Gedrosia 7.08 Pct
Siberian 16.84 Pct
Northwest_African 0.12 Pct
Southeast_Asian 0.98 Pct
Atlantic_Med 11.83 Pct
North_European 19.94 Pct
South_Asian 2.33 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 0.72 Pct
East_Asian 23.40 Pct
Caucasus 16.77 Pct
Sub_Saharan -
result from Bursa, probably of Nogay or Tatar descendant
Gedrosia 7.08 Pct
Siberian 16.84 Pct
Northwest_African 0.12 Pct
Southeast_Asian 0.98 Pct
Atlantic_Med 11.83 Pct
North_European 19.94 Pct
South_Asian 2.33 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 0.72 Pct
East_Asian 23.40 Pct
Caucasus 16.77 Pct
Sub_Saharan -
You can run him through Vahaduo at:
http://vahaduo.genetics.ovh/dodecad-k12b-vahaduo.htm
Don't forget to click Distance. I personally discard a distance that is bigger than 3.0.
By the way, do you know what that person looks like? Must be heavily Mongoloid.
Interestingly, this is what War Chief gets. His mother is Gagauz and father is half Ossetian half Ukrainian-Russian
War_Chief(Gagauz-Ossetian-Ukrainian),9.87,2.27,0,0.36,16.69,34.10,0.54,0,4.0 8,0,32.09,0
Target: War_Chief(Gagauz-Ossetian-Ukrainian)
Distance: 3.0718% / 3.07177481 | ADC: 0.5x
72.4 Bulgarian
23.2 Lak
2.4 Avar_Dagestan
2.0 Turk_Bulgaria
Target: War_Chief(Gagauz-Ossetian-Ukrainian)
Distance: 1.7154% / 1.71539716 | ADC: 0.25x
67.4 Bulgarian
26.6 Lak
3.2 Chuvash
1.6 North_Ossetians
1.2 Mordovian
Bender1999
09-08-2020, 08:11 PM
You can run him through Vahaduo at:
http://vahaduo.genetics.ovh/dodecad-k12b-vahaduo.htm
Don't forget to click Distance. I personally discard a distance that is bigger than 3.0.
By the way, do you know what that person looks like? Must be heavily Mongoloid.
Oh i just found him on a page about the genetics of Azerbaijanis, i thought it would be interesting to show him here. Unfortunately i have no idea about using calculators, also i am here with my mobile, some stuff which works well with laptop is working very bad with mobile. But the person also posted distances, they are ancient because i didnt post them. I wanted to copy that but even that doesn’t work sorry: https://www.facebook.com/100646718014526/posts/bursa-bak%C4%B1rk%C3%B6y-d%C9%99n-etnik-noqay-autosomal-dnt-n%C9%99tic%C9%99si-dodecad-k12b-noqaylar%C4%B1n-et/314752016603994/
Edit: i also dont know how the person looks like, the just know one person of partly nogay origin https://www.google.de/search?q=c%C3%BCneyt+arkin&client=safari&hl=de-de&prmd=inv&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjUkNLottrrAhWKDuwKHZrlDF4Q_AUoAXoECBoQA Q&biw=375&bih=553&dpr=2.
But the Tatars in Turkey can look bery Asian.
Oh i just found him on a page about the genetics of Azerbaijanis, i thought it would be interesting to show him here. Unfortunately i have no idea about using calculators, also i am here with my mobile, some stuff which works well with laptop is working very bad with mobile. But the person also posted distances, they are ancient because i didnt post them. I wanted to copy that but even that doesnt work sorry: https://www.facebook.com/100646718014526/posts/bursa-bak%C4%B1rk%C3%B6y-d%C9%99n-etnik-noqay-autosomal-dnt-n%C9%99tic%C9%99si-dodecad-k12b-noqaylar%C4%B1n-et/314752016603994/
Okay, I will run him in a minute. That page is in Azerbaijani, not the Turkish of Turkey. Can you read it freely? I actually learned a bit of Azerbaijani and Persian 6-7 years ago but don't know much aside from the general idea.
EDIT:
He doesn't get a good fit. Don't know what kind of Tatar that could possibly be. 40% Mongoloid in Turkey? I know there's a couple of Siberian Tatar immigrant villages in Turkey, a Tatarstan TV channel once showed them, I watched the video 7 years ago or so.
Bender1999
09-08-2020, 08:26 PM
Okay, I will run him in a minute. That page is in Azerbaijani, not the Turkish of Turkey. Can you read it freely? I actually learned a bit of Azerbaijani and Persian 6-7 years ago but don't know much aside from the general idea.
Yes, even it makes fun to read, just Auerbaijanis have more loanwords, but you can derive them from context. I also wanted learn Persian but the beginners cours still costs over 100€.
I think it would be nice learning more about Azerbaijani genetics, i think about Anatolian Turks we have already many samples and informations. I even would bet there are Auerbaijanis who have more mongoloid than the most mongoloid Turk.
Yes, even it makes fun to read, just Auerbaijanis have more loanwords, but you can derive them from context. I also wanted learn Persian but the beginners cours still costs over 100€.
I think it would be nice learning more about Azerbaijani genetics, i think about Anatolian Turks we have already many samples and informations. I even would bet there are Auerbaijanis who have more mongoloid than the most mongoloid Turk.
Well, so far they have been barely 10% Mongoloid. I don't think there is much mystery about them. I do believe the average sits approximately at the same level as the data so far has shown. At least for the Republic of Azerbaijan which is the default Azerbaijan for me.
Dr_Maul
09-08-2020, 08:34 PM
Okay, I will run him in a minute. That page is in Azerbaijani, not the Turkish of Turkey. Can you read it freely? I actually learned a bit of Azerbaijani and Persian 6-7 years ago but don't know much aside from the general idea.
EDIT:
He doesn't get a good fit. Don't know what kind of Tatar that could possibly be. 40% Mongoloid in Turkey? I know there's a couple of Siberian Tatar immigrant villages in Turkey, a Tatarstan TV channel once showed them, I watched the video 7 years ago or so.
According to the post its an Ethnic Nogai, according to the post they are supposedly supposed to have stronger Mongol input but most of the Nogai results I have seen are similar to Turkmens so maybe its a different group not sure
Distance to: BursaNogai
11.30918211 Crimean_Tatar_Steppe
12.23454127 Karakalpak
14.41405564 Uzbeks
15.41267660 Uzbek
18.05756905 Bashkir
18.08401504 Kazakh
19.50270494 Uygur
19.68276657 Turkmen_Uzbekistan
22.22088882 Hazara
22.36920651 Kyrgyz
23.30561091 Kyrgyz_Bishkek
26.13307866 Nogais
27.96423251 Yoruk
28.54363852 Tatar_Kazan
29.32756212 Turk_Northwest
30.08059507 Crimean_Tatar_Mountain
30.33406995 Tajik_Tajikistan
30.63361389 Turkmen_Iran
30.91023779 Turk_Bulgaria
31.01698728 Turk_Southwest
31.05219799 Turk_Romania
32.80868940 Turk_Greece
33.01547364 Altai
33.25223752 Turk_West_BlackSea
33.51796832 Turkmens
Bender1999
09-08-2020, 08:39 PM
Well, so far they have been barely 10% Mongoloid. I don't think there is much mystery about them. I do believe the average sits approximately at the same level as the data so far has shown. At least for the Republic of Azerbaijan which is the default Azerbaijan for me.
When i started researching about genetics years ago, and i said it many times i know and probably will say it again many times, i saw a Azerbaijani guy who hadn’t even 10% east eurasian, but his Grandfather had around 30%. And there are Azerbaijani subgroups like Terekkemes for instance, comparable with Yörüks. I just saw one sample but the person was around 50% turkic, although his North European was low even for Azerbaijanis. But apart from that you are right, they are like Anatolian Turks, just Iranian shifted.
Bender1999
09-08-2020, 08:43 PM
According to the post its an Ethnic Nogai, according to the post they are supposedly supposed to have stronger Mongol input but most of the Nogai results I have seen are similar to Turkmens so maybe its a different group not sure
Distance to: BursaNogai
11.30918211 Crimean_Tatar_Steppe
12.23454127 Karakalpak
14.41405564 Uzbeks
15.41267660 Uzbek
18.05756905 Bashkir
18.08401504 Kazakh
19.50270494 Uygur
19.68276657 Turkmen_Uzbekistan
22.22088882 Hazara
22.36920651 Kyrgyz
23.30561091 Kyrgyz_Bishkek
26.13307866 Nogais
27.96423251 Yoruk
28.54363852 Tatar_Kazan
29.32756212 Turk_Northwest
30.08059507 Crimean_Tatar_Mountain
30.33406995 Tajik_Tajikistan
30.63361389 Turkmen_Iran
30.91023779 Turk_Bulgaria
31.01698728 Turk_Southwest
31.05219799 Turk_Romania
32.80868940 Turk_Greece
33.01547364 Altai
33.25223752 Turk_West_BlackSea
33.51796832 Turkmens
According Wiki the place where the person comes from is mostly of Tatar origin, according the page the person is of Nogay origin. Both are probable but honestly i don’t know whether Nogays can be over 30/35% mongoloid.
Dr_Maul
09-08-2020, 08:45 PM
According Wiki the place where the person comes from is mostly of Tatar origin, according the page the person is of Nogay origin. Both are probable but honestly i don’t know whether Nogays can be over 30/35% mongoloid.
They are probably mixed Tatar/Nogai origin, honestly I don't think its possible for a "normal" Nogai to have more than 20 or 25% Mongoloid without being admixed
I believe there are two Nogai subgroups - the Kara Nogais and the Kuban Nogais. The former are more mongoloid, almost like Karakalpaks or Kazakhs whereas the latter are more Caucasian-admixed. That's because in the 17th century Nogais were pushed westwards by the incoming Kalmyks (the time when the Kalmyks came to what is now Kalmykia in Russia).
Bender1999
09-08-2020, 08:53 PM
Yes it seems the person is not typical. Not even for Crimmean Tatars.
Dr_Maul
09-08-2020, 08:54 PM
Armenian with likely recent Assyrian or other Levantine ancestry
# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 49.56
2 Gedrosia 16.66
3 Southwest_Asian 15.68
4 Atlantic_Med 12.96
5 North_European 3.49
6 Northwest_African 0.77
7 Southeast_Asian 0.68
8 East_African 0.15
9 East_Asian 0.06
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) 5.7
2 Assyrian (Dodecad) 5.79
3 Armenian (Dodecad) 6.4
4 Georgia_Jews (Behar) 6.41
5 Armenians_15 (Yunusbayev) 7.13
6 Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) 7.65
7 Turks (Behar) 9.38
8 Iranian_Jews (Behar) 9.48
9 Turkish (Dodecad) 9.81
10 Iraq_Jews (Behar) 10.04
11 Druze (HGDP) 10.57
12 Armenians (Behar) 11.11
13 Cypriots (Behar) 12.45
14 Lebanese (Behar) 12.6
15 Kurds (Yunusbayev) 14.3
16 Kurd (Dodecad) 15.55
17 Syrians (Behar) 16.41
18 Iranian (Dodecad) 16.44
19 Jordanians (Behar) 18.51
20 Iranians (Behar) 19.07
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 84.8% Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) + 15.2% C_Italian (Dodecad) @ 1.17
2 86.2% Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) + 13.8% Tuscan (HGDP) @ 1.21
3 86.7% Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) + 13.3% TSI30 (Metspalu) @ 1.25
4 86% Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) + 14% O_Italian (Dodecad) @ 1.39
5 88.7% Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) + 11.3% North_Italian (HGDP) @ 1.4
6 88.5% Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) + 11.5% N_Italian (Dodecad) @ 1.43
7 83% Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) + 17% Greek (Dodecad) @ 1.52
8 81.6% Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) + 18.4% Sicilian (Dodecad) @ 1.54
9 81.1% Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) + 18.9% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) @ 1.56
10 90.5% Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) + 9.5% Baleares (1000Genomes) @ 1.75
11 91.2% Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) + 8.8% Spaniards (Behar) @ 1.88
12 91.6% Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) + 8.4% Cantabria (1000Genomes) @ 1.89
13 90.8% Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) + 9.2% Galicia (1000Genomes) @ 1.91
14 91.5% Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) + 8.5% Valencia (1000Genomes) @ 1.91
15 91.1% Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) + 8.9% Castilla_Y_Leon (1000Genomes) @ 1.92
16 85.1% Assyrian (Dodecad) + 14.9% C_Italian (Dodecad) @ 1.92
17 80.2% Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) + 19.8% Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) @ 1.93
18 91.4% Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) + 8.6% Cataluna (1000Genomes) @ 1.93
19 86.4% Assyrian (Dodecad) + 13.6% Tuscan (HGDP) @ 1.95
20 86.1% Assyrian (Dodecad) + 13.9% O_Italian (Dodecad) @ 1.96
Armenian with likely recent Assyrian or other Levantine ancestry
# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 49.56
2 Gedrosia 16.66
3 Southwest_Asian 15.68
4 Atlantic_Med 12.96
5 North_European 3.49
6 Northwest_African 0.77
7 Southeast_Asian 0.68
8 East_African 0.15
9 East_Asian 0.06
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) 5.7
2 Assyrian (Dodecad) 5.79
3 Armenian (Dodecad) 6.4
4 Georgia_Jews (Behar) 6.41
5 Armenians_15 (Yunusbayev) 7.13
6 Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) 7.65
7 Turks (Behar) 9.38
8 Iranian_Jews (Behar) 9.48
9 Turkish (Dodecad) 9.81
10 Iraq_Jews (Behar) 10.04
11 Druze (HGDP) 10.57
12 Armenians (Behar) 11.11
13 Cypriots (Behar) 12.45
14 Lebanese (Behar) 12.6
15 Kurds (Yunusbayev) 14.3
16 Kurd (Dodecad) 15.55
17 Syrians (Behar) 16.41
18 Iranian (Dodecad) 16.44
19 Jordanians (Behar) 18.51
20 Iranians (Behar) 19.07
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 84.8% Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) + 15.2% C_Italian (Dodecad) @ 1.17
2 86.2% Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) + 13.8% Tuscan (HGDP) @ 1.21
3 86.7% Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) + 13.3% TSI30 (Metspalu) @ 1.25
4 86% Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) + 14% O_Italian (Dodecad) @ 1.39
5 88.7% Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) + 11.3% North_Italian (HGDP) @ 1.4
6 88.5% Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) + 11.5% N_Italian (Dodecad) @ 1.43
7 83% Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) + 17% Greek (Dodecad) @ 1.52
8 81.6% Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) + 18.4% Sicilian (Dodecad) @ 1.54
9 81.1% Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) + 18.9% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) @ 1.56
10 90.5% Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) + 9.5% Baleares (1000Genomes) @ 1.75
11 91.2% Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) + 8.8% Spaniards (Behar) @ 1.88
12 91.6% Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) + 8.4% Cantabria (1000Genomes) @ 1.89
13 90.8% Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) + 9.2% Galicia (1000Genomes) @ 1.91
14 91.5% Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) + 8.5% Valencia (1000Genomes) @ 1.91
15 91.1% Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) + 8.9% Castilla_Y_Leon (1000Genomes) @ 1.92
16 85.1% Assyrian (Dodecad) + 14.9% C_Italian (Dodecad) @ 1.92
17 80.2% Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) + 19.8% Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) @ 1.93
18 91.4% Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) + 8.6% Cataluna (1000Genomes) @ 1.93
19 86.4% Assyrian (Dodecad) + 13.6% Tuscan (HGDP) @ 1.95
20 86.1% Assyrian (Dodecad) + 13.9% O_Italian (Dodecad) @ 1.96
What's the indication for Assyrian or Levantine? It looks like regular West Armenian result.
I believe there are two Nogai subgroups - the Kara Nogais and the Kuban Nogais. The former are more mongoloid, almost like Karakalpaks or Kazakhs whereas the latter are more Caucasian-admixed. That's because in the 17th century Nogais were pushed westwards by the incoming Kalmyks (the time when the Kalmyks came to what is now Kalmykia in Russia).
From the Balanovsky et al study. Pay attention to the two Nogai references (53.7% vs 25.8% "Ulchi")
https://i.ibb.co/30p56pf/Balanovsky-admix.jpg
Well, so far they have been barely 10% Mongoloid. I don't think there is much mystery about them. I do believe the average sits approximately at the same level as the data so far has shown. At least for the Republic of Azerbaijan which is the default Azerbaijan for me.
Tebriz is Azerbaijani cultural and symbolic capital
Dr_Maul
09-08-2020, 09:03 PM
What's the indication for Assyrian or Levantine? It looks like regular West Armenian result.
I thought maybe because of the oracle (also their distance is closer to Assyrian than Armenian) but your probably right
Bender1999
09-08-2020, 09:03 PM
Armenian from Yozgat, Muş, Erzurum, Bingöl
Gedrosian: 20.02 Pct
Siberian: -
Northwest_African: -
Southeast_Asian: -
Atlantic_Med: 11.26 Pct
North_European: 2.60 Pct
South_Asian 0.48 Pct
East_African 0.56 Pct
Southwest_Asian: 16.60 Pct
East_Asian: -
Caucasian: 48.43 Pct
Sub-Saharan: 0.06 Pct
I thought maybe because of the oracle (also their distance is closer to Assyrian than Armenian) but your probably right
Always check Vahaduo for more clear results:
Here are his distances:
Distance to: Armenian
1.20855285 Armenian_West
4.18772014 Armenian_East
6.17144229 Azerbaijan_Jews
6.45934981 Greek_Pontus
6.60454389 Assyrian
6.89632511 Georgia_Jews
7.40563974 Turk_East_Black_Sea
7.53068390 Turk_East
8.31280338 Uzbekistan_Jews
8.57745300 Greek_Cappadocia
9.28906346 Hemshin
9.30458489 Udi_Azerbaijan
9.67217659 Nusayri_Turkey
10.12969397 Iranian_Jews
10.39909131 Turk_Ahiska
10.43228642 Laz
10.68656633 Iraq_Jews
11.34778392 Druze
12.32690553 Zaza
13.08229720 Turk_Central_East
13.08707760 Georgian_Adjara
13.50404754 Cypriots
13.59152677 Turkmen_Iraq
13.62439356 Azerbaijani_Turkey
13.66260224 Lebanese
Dr_Maul
09-08-2020, 09:07 PM
Turk from Sivas province
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/84/Sivas_in_Turkey.svg
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 40.01
2 Gedrosia 16.38
3 Atlantic_Med 12.59
4 Southwest_Asian 11.69
5 North_European 7.99
6 East_Asian 3.82
7 Siberian 3.21
8 South_Asian 2.76
9 Northwest_African 1.56
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Turks (Behar) 6.46
2 Turkish (Dodecad) 7.02
3 Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) 11.62
4 Kurd (Dodecad) 13.8
5 Kurds (Yunusbayev) 13.8
6 Iranian (Dodecad) 13.85
7 Lebanese (Behar) 14.77
8 Georgia_Jews (Behar) 15.37
9 Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) 15.41
10 Assyrian (Dodecad) 15.88
11 Armenians_15 (Yunusbayev) 16.24
12 Armenian (Dodecad) 16.24
13 Iranians (Behar) 16.26
14 Kumyks (Yunusbayev) 17.02
15 Iranian_Jews (Behar) 17.08
16 Cypriots (Behar) 17.15
17 Iraq_Jews (Behar) 17.28
18 Druze (HGDP) 17.63
19 Syrians (Behar) 18.03
20 Turkmens (Yunusbayev) 18.29
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 51.6% Cypriots (Behar) + 48.4% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) @ 1.51
2 64% Cypriots (Behar) + 36% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) @ 3.43
3 89.8% Turkish (Dodecad) + 10.2% Makrani (HGDP) @ 3.7
4 91.1% Turkish (Dodecad) + 8.9% Brahui (HGDP) @ 3.7
5 90.3% Turkish (Dodecad) + 9.7% Balochi (HGDP) @ 3.77
6 90.1% Turkish (Dodecad) + 9.9% Sindhi (HGDP) @ 3.83
7 88.8% Turkish (Dodecad) + 11.2% Burusho (HGDP) @ 4.01
8 75.6% Turkish (Dodecad) + 24.4% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) @ 4.02
9 90% Turkish (Dodecad) + 10% Jatt (Dodecad) @ 4.18
10 88.5% Turkish (Dodecad) + 11.5% Pathan (HGDP) @ 4.22
11 90.7% Turkish (Dodecad) + 9.3% Cochin_Jews (Behar) @ 4.37
12 91.9% Turkish (Dodecad) + 8.1% Iyer (Dodecad) @ 4.4
13 84.6% Turkish (Dodecad) + 15.4% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) @ 4.44
14 91.7% Turkish (Dodecad) + 8.3% Brahmins_from_Tamil_Nadu (Metspalu) @ 4.48
15 91.9% Turkish (Dodecad) + 8.1% Indian (Dodecad) @ 4.48
16 57.8% Iranian (Dodecad) + 42.2% Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) @ 4.51
17 92.1% Turks (Behar) + 7.9% Cochin_Jews (Behar) @ 4.51
18 92.3% Turkish (Dodecad) + 7.7% Iyengar (Dodecad) @ 4.54
19 74.5% Turkish (Dodecad) + 25.5% Iranians (Behar) @ 4.56
20 93.2% Turks (Behar) + 6.8% Iyer (Dodecad) @ 4.56
Dr_Maul
09-08-2020, 09:11 PM
What I now know is a West Armenian
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 45.95
2 Gedrosia 19.43
3 Southwest_Asian 15.24
4 Atlantic_Med 12.31
5 North_European 6.02
6 East_Asian 0.9
7 Northwest_African 0.15
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) 5.91
2 Turks (Behar) 7.87
3 Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) 8.33
4 Assyrian (Dodecad) 8.55
5 Georgia_Jews (Behar) 8.61
6 Turkish (Dodecad) 8.98
7 Armenians_15 (Yunusbayev) 9.8
8 Armenian (Dodecad) 9.81
9 Kurds (Yunusbayev) 10.48
10 Iranian_Jews (Behar) 10.8
11 Iraq_Jews (Behar) 11.48
12 Kurd (Dodecad) 11.74
13 Iranian (Dodecad) 12.74
14 Lebanese (Behar) 13.12
15 Druze (HGDP) 13.77
16 Armenians (Behar) 13.98
17 Cypriots (Behar) 15.32
18 Iranians (Behar) 15.37
19 Syrians (Behar) 16.37
20 Jordanians (Behar) 18.91
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 59.5% Kurds (Yunusbayev) + 40.5% Cypriots (Behar) @ 1.57
2 88.5% Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) + 11.5% Argyll (1000Genomes) @ 1.82
3 88.7% Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) + 11.3% Orkney (1000Genomes) @ 1.93
4 88.7% Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) + 11.3% Orcadian (HGDP) @ 1.93
5 88.6% Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) + 11.4% Irish (Dodecad) @ 1.95
6 87.7% Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) + 12.3% Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) @ 2.06
7 88.5% Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) + 11.5% British (Dodecad) @ 2.06
8 88.3% Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) + 11.7% CEU30 (1000Genomes) @ 2.06
9 88.3% Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) + 11.7% English (Dodecad) @ 2.07
10 88.4% Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) + 11.6% Cornwall (1000Genomes) @ 2.08
11 88.2% Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) + 11.8% Kent (1000Genomes) @ 2.1
12 88.1% Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) + 11.9% Dutch (Dodecad) @ 2.12
13 88.6% Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) + 11.4% British_Isles (Dodecad) @ 2.16
14 89.3% Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) + 10.7% Norwegian (Dodecad) @ 2.29
15 56.8% Kurd (Dodecad) + 43.2% Cypriots (Behar) @ 2.46
16 89.3% Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) + 10.7% Swedish (Dodecad) @ 2.48
17 88.4% Assyrian (Dodecad) + 11.6% Argyll (1000Genomes) @ 2.48
18 87.7% Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) + 12.3% German (Dodecad) @ 2.54
19 88.6% Assyrian (Dodecad) + 11.4% Orkney (1000Genomes) @ 2.59
20 88.6% Assyrian (Dodecad) + 11.4% Orcadian (HGDP) @ 2.6
Is Gaziantep in Turkey entirely Turkish or also Kurdish?
Bender1999
09-08-2020, 09:13 PM
Is Gaziantep in Turkey entirely Turkish or also Kurdish?
(Still) mostly Turkish.
Is Gaziantep in Turkey entirely Turkish or also Kurdish?
Turkish > Kurdish > some Arab
Dr_Maul
09-08-2020, 09:17 PM
Super interesting result from Edirne province. Likely mixed but interesting anyways
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/0d/Edirne_in_Turkey.svg
# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 31.86
2 North_European 16.47
3 Gedrosia 11.98
4 Southwest_Asian 11.65
5 Atlantic_Med 10.44
6 Siberian 8.11
7 East_Asian 6.22
8 South_Asian 2.76
9 Southeast_Asian 0.52
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Nogais (Yunusbayev) 15.43
2 Turks (Behar) 16.06
3 Turkish (Dodecad) 16.08
4 Turkmens (Yunusbayev) 17.82
5 Kumyks (Yunusbayev) 19.06
6 Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) 20.64
7 Ashkenazi (Dodecad) 21.46
8 Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) 21.95
9 Lebanese (Behar) 21.97
10 Iranian (Dodecad) 21.98
11 Greek (Dodecad) 22.09
12 Kurd (Dodecad) 22.24
13 Kurds (Yunusbayev) 22.64
14 S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) 22.95
15 Sephardic_Jews (Behar) 23.41
16 Sicilian (Dodecad) 23.54
17 Syrians (Behar) 23.79
18 Iranians (Behar) 23.83
19 Bulgarian (Dodecad) 25.24
20 Morocco_Jews (Behar) 25.29
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 72.3% Nogais (Yunusbayev) + 27.7% Bedouin (HGDP) @ 6.88
2 62.3% Nogais (Yunusbayev) + 37.7% Syrians (Behar) @ 7.01
3 74.7% Turks (Behar) + 25.3% Chuvashs (Behar) @ 7.52
4 81.1% Nogais (Yunusbayev) + 18.9% Saudis (Behar) @ 7.56
5 66.6% Nogais (Yunusbayev) + 33.4% Palestinian (HGDP) @ 7.65
6 64.6% Nogais (Yunusbayev) + 35.4% Jordanians (Behar) @ 7.68
7 61.8% Iraq_Jews (Behar) + 38.2% Chuvashs (Behar) @ 7.81
8 62% Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) + 38% Chuvashs (Behar) @ 7.86
9 67.1% Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) + 32.9% Chuvashs (Behar) @ 7.87
10 61.8% Assyrian (Dodecad) + 38.2% Chuvashs (Behar) @ 7.9
11 75% Turkish (Dodecad) + 25% Chuvashs (Behar) @ 7.99
12 61.6% Iranian_Jews (Behar) + 38.4% Chuvashs (Behar) @ 8.05
13 64.6% Nogais (Yunusbayev) + 35.4% Morocco_Jews (Behar) @ 8.11
14 77.6% Nogais (Yunusbayev) + 22.4% Yemen_Jews (Behar) @ 8.13
15 60.9% Nogais (Yunusbayev) + 39.1% Lebanese (Behar) @ 8.14
16 65.7% Turkish (Dodecad) + 34.3% Uzbeks (Behar) @ 8.17
17 71.7% Nogais (Yunusbayev) + 28.3% Yemenese (Behar) @ 8.17
18 52.5% Cypriots (Behar) + 47.5% Uzbeks (Behar) @ 8.24
19 62.8% Nogais (Yunusbayev) + 37.2% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) @ 8.45
20 70.8% Nogais (Yunusbayev) + 29.2% Egyptans (Behar) @ 8.68
Yes, even it makes fun to read, just Auerbaijanis have more loanwords, but you can derive them from context. I also wanted learn Persian but the beginners cours still costs over 100.
I think it would be nice learning more about Azerbaijani genetics, i think about Anatolian Turks we have already many samples and informations. I even would bet there are Auerbaijanis who have more mongoloid than the most mongoloid Turk.
I think Anatolian Turks and Republic of Azerbaijan are very well covered in terms of DNA testing. And there is more to come. Iranian Azerbaijan is still a wasteland in terms of results. There is still much to explore. In fact we just have a couple of Tebriz results from a study thats it. Also other turkic groups in Iran we also have zero data.
In Republic the Northwest seems to have the strongest turkic input so far. They are Terekeme mostly.
Dr_Maul
09-08-2020, 09:24 PM
Azerbaijani result, not sure republic or normal. Also low mongoloid, possibly mixed or only half Azeri
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 43.65
2 Gedrosia 21.52
3 North_European 9.09
4 Southwest_Asian 8.71
5 Atlantic_Med 5.39
6 South_Asian 3.31
7 Siberian 3.16
8 East_African 1.84
9 Southeast_Asian 1.66
10 Northwest_African 1
11 East_Asian 0.67
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Iranian (Dodecad) 8.97
2 Turks (Behar) 9.03
3 Kurds (Yunusbayev) 9.57
4 Kurd (Dodecad) 9.92
5 Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) 11.32
6 Turkish (Dodecad) 11.63
7 Kumyks (Yunusbayev) 11.91
8 Iranians (Behar) 12.98
9 Armenians_15 (Yunusbayev) 14.54
10 Georgia_Jews (Behar) 14.91
11 Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) 15.15
12 Armenian (Dodecad) 15.57
13 Assyrian (Dodecad) 16.12
14 Turkmens (Yunusbayev) 17.04
15 Armenians (Behar) 17.22
16 Iranian_Jews (Behar) 17.26
17 Lezgins (Behar) 17.81
18 Chechens (Yunusbayev) 17.83
19 Adygei (HGDP) 18.56
20 Balkars (Yunusbayev) 18.95
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 67.4% Armenians_15 (Yunusbayev) + 32.6% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) @ 4.51
2 60.2% Iranians (Behar) + 39.8% Balkars (Yunusbayev) @ 4.52
3 63.2% Armenians (Behar) + 36.8% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) @ 4.54
4 70.4% Iranian (Dodecad) + 29.6% Balkars (Yunusbayev) @ 4.58
5 50.3% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) + 49.7% Armenians (Behar) @ 4.75
6 70.7% Iranian (Dodecad) + 29.3% North_Ossetians (Yunusbayev) @ 4.77
7 60.3% Iranians (Behar) + 39.7% North_Ossetians (Yunusbayev) @ 4.79
8 70.3% Iranian (Dodecad) + 29.7% Adygei (HGDP) @ 4.82
9 65.8% Armenian (Dodecad) + 34.2% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) @ 4.89
10 59.8% Iranians (Behar) + 40.2% Adygei (HGDP) @ 4.92
11 59.2% Iranian (Dodecad) + 40.8% Kumyks (Yunusbayev) @ 4.98
12 50.2% Iranian (Dodecad) + 49.8% Turks (Behar) @ 5.01
13 68.2% Kurd (Dodecad) + 31.8% Balkars (Yunusbayev) @ 5.12
14 54.4% Armenians_15 (Yunusbayev) + 45.6% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) @ 5.13
15 51.6% Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) + 48.4% Kumyks (Yunusbayev) @ 5.27
16 68.5% Kurd (Dodecad) + 31.5% North_Ossetians (Yunusbayev) @ 5.31
17 68% Kurd (Dodecad) + 32% Adygei (HGDP) @ 5.33
18 58.9% Iranian (Dodecad) + 41.1% Turkish (Dodecad) @ 5.35
19 56% Kurd (Dodecad) + 44% Kumyks (Yunusbayev) @ 5.37
20 52.7% Kumyks (Yunusbayev) + 47.3% Iranians (Behar) @ 5.44
Azerbaijani result, not sure republic or normal. Also low mongoloid, possibly mixed or only half Azeri
I think it could be a full Azeri (the Mongoloid is low-ish but not impossibly low either).
Kaspias
09-08-2020, 09:34 PM
Edirne
That's indeed interesting. May I ask the source/kit number? Maybe I can explore what is going on there.
Dr_Maul
09-08-2020, 09:38 PM
That's indeed interesting. May I ask the source/kit number? Maybe I can explore what is going on there.
I PM you
Dr_Maul
09-08-2020, 09:39 PM
KARA BOGA result
Kit NQ1666481
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Sub_Saharan 20.8
2 Gedrosia 19.91
3 South_Asian 16.15
4 Northwest_African 14.75
5 Southwest_Asian 6.71
6 North_European 6.11
7 East_African 5.09
8 Atlantic_Med 4.71
9 Caucasus 3.71
10 Siberian 2.03
11 Southeast_Asian 0.03
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Bnei_Menashe_Jews (Behar) 38.43
2 Tajiks (Yunusbayev) 38.58
3 Algerian (Dodecad) 39.09
4 Pathan (HGDP) 39.34
5 Burusho (HGDP) 39.6
6 Turkmens (Yunusbayev) 40.28
7 Jatt (Dodecad) 41.14
8 Cochin_Jews (Behar) 42.76
9 Moroccans (Behar) 43.13
10 Brahmins_from_Uttar_Pradesh (Metspalu) 43.49
11 Sindhi (HGDP) 43.58
12 Iranians (Behar) 44.09
13 Yemenese (Behar) 44.25
14 Uzbeks (Behar) 44.87
15 Egyptans (Behar) 44.99
16 Moroccan (Dodecad) 45.8
17 Kshatriya (Metspalu) 45.89
18 Makrani (HGDP) 46.19
19 Iranian (Dodecad) 46.42
20 Brahmins_from_Tamil_Nadu (Metspalu) 46.54
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 68.2% Pathan (HGDP) + 31.8% LWK30 (Behar) @ 18.99
2 68.6% Pathan (HGDP) + 31.4% Bantu_N.E. (HGDP) @ 19.06
3 68.9% Bnei_Menashe_Jews (Behar) + 31.1% LWK30 (Behar) @ 19.16
4 69.3% Bnei_Menashe_Jews (Behar) + 30.7% Bantu_N.E. (HGDP) @ 19.21
5 67.1% Jatt (Dodecad) + 32.9% LWK30 (Behar) @ 19.62
6 68.2% Burusho (HGDP) + 31.8% LWK30 (Behar) @ 19.66
7 67.5% Jatt (Dodecad) + 32.5% Bantu_N.E. (HGDP) @ 19.72
8 68.6% Burusho (HGDP) + 31.4% Bantu_N.E. (HGDP) @ 19.72
9 70.7% Bnei_Menashe_Jews (Behar) + 29.3% ASW30 (HapMap3) @ 19.79
10 71.5% Pathan (HGDP) + 28.5% Bantu_S.E._Tswana (HGDP) @ 19.93
11 72.1% Bnei_Menashe_Jews (Behar) + 27.9% Bantu_S.E._Tswana (HGDP) @ 19.96
12 70.2% Pathan (HGDP) + 29.8% ASW30 (HapMap3) @ 20.2
13 73.2% Bnei_Menashe_Jews (Behar) + 26.8% Bantu_S.W._Herero (HGDP) @ 20.37
14 72.5% Pathan (HGDP) + 27.5% Bantu_S.W._Herero (HGDP) @ 20.38
15 71.5% Burusho (HGDP) + 28.5% Bantu_S.E._Tswana (HGDP) @ 20.56
16 70.1% Burusho (HGDP) + 29.9% ASW30 (HapMap3) @ 20.69
17 70.5% Jatt (Dodecad) + 29.5% Bantu_S.E._Tswana (HGDP) @ 20.75
18 74.8% Bnei_Menashe_Jews (Behar) + 25.2% Mandenka (HGDP) @ 20.93
19 74.2% Pathan (HGDP) + 25.8% Mandenka (HGDP) @ 20.98
20 72.6% Burusho (HGDP) + 27.4% Bantu_S.W._Herero (HGDP) @ 21
KARA BOGA result
Kit NQ1666481
What are they? Extremely mixed results. Indian and Yemeni?
Dr_Maul
09-08-2020, 10:45 PM
What are they? Extremely mixed results. Indian and Yemeni?
Not sure. The kit has a Turkish name but obviously they aren’t. I think they are too SSA for Yemeni
Edit: I checked it again and I mistook it for another kit, this one has a Farsi name so possibly its an Afro-Baloch but it is still most likely Afro-South Asian
Iranian from Alborz Province:
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/59/IranAlborz-SVG.svg/250px-IranAlborz-SVG.svg.png
Edit: I investigated the name and I think I had it wrongly saved. Most likely from Alborz province or Teheran not Hamedan:
Gedrosian: 23.73
Siberian: 4.36
Northwest_African: 1.14
Southeast_Asian: 0.00
Atlantic_Med: 8.80
North_European: 6.91
South_Asian 4.19
East_African 0.51
Southwest_Asian: 11.86
East_Asian: 1.02
Caucasian: 37.48
Sub-Saharan: 0.00
Distance to: Alborz
4.13275937 Azerbaijani_Iran
4.66867219 Kurd_Kurmanji
5.29008507 Azerbaijani
5.81685482 Azerbaijani_Turkey
6.16347305 Kurd_Sorani
6.32162163 Zaza
6.38468480 Talysh_Azerbaijan
6.99213129 Turkmen_Iraq
7.16189221 Lur_Iran
7.25057239 Iranian
7.33901901 Iranian_Fars
7.38638613 Turk_Southeast
8.70639994 Kurd_KAZ
9.34382149 Iran_Khorasan
10.31605545 Turk_Central_East
10.50878204 Turk_South
10.55616408 Udi_Azerbaijan
11.00299505 Turk_East
11.29010186 Iran_Mazandaran
11.61724150 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
11.77855679 Turk_Anatolia
11.97194220 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
11.98131462 Turk_Central_West
12.25082854 Uzbekistan_Jews
13.91706147 Turk_Southwest
Target: Alborz
Distance: 1.3237% / 1.32369982 | ADC: 0.25x
58.4 Kurd_Kurmanji
21.0 Azerbaijani_Iran
10.6 Iran_Khorasan
5.0 Iranian
2.0 Nganassan
1.8 Bnei_Menashe_Jews
Kaspias
09-09-2020, 09:42 AM
Super interesting result from Edirne province. Likely mixed but interesting anyways
He is 1/4 Bulgarian Tatar. (Shumen, of Steppe Crimean origin)
3/4 Anatolian Turk from NW Anatolia. (Marmara, presumably from Bursa-Bilecik)
Bender1999
09-09-2020, 10:56 AM
Not sure. The kit has a Turkish name but obviously they arent. I think they are too SSA for Yemeni
An Afroturk should have more Westasian admixture, but this person must be something like African+Southasian mix. Maybe the child of migrants in a Gulf state?
Dr_Maul
09-09-2020, 12:37 PM
An Afroturk should have more Westasian admixture, but this person must be something like African+Southasian mix. Maybe the child of migrants in a Gulf state?
Yeah they definitely are not west Asian. I think part African part North Indian/Pak is a good fit
East Eurasian Admixture in West Asia:
https://i.imgur.com/T5LcWf9.png
North European:
https://i.imgur.com/QwtQMSb.png
Atlantic Med:
https://i.imgur.com/wJINlyG.png
Bender1999
09-09-2020, 03:28 PM
Turk from Yozgat
Caucasus 38.77
Atlantic_Med 15.07
Gedrosia 13.84
Southwest_Asian 11.77
North_European 9.87
East_Asian 4.43
Siberian 4.19
Southeast_Asian 1.45
Bender1999
09-09-2020, 04:52 PM
Turk from Yozgat
Caucasus 38.77
Atlantic_Med 15.07
Gedrosia 13.84
Southwest_Asian 11.77
North_European 9.87
East_Asian 4.43
Siberian 4.19
Southeast_Asian 1.45
Very low Gedrosia, „high“ Atlantic Med for that region.
Turk from Ankara
# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 38.92
2 Gedrosia 16.61
3 Atlantic_Med 12.28
4 Southwest_Asian 10.68
5 North_European 9.95
6 Siberian 3.75
7 East_Asian 3.47
8 Southeast_Asian 2.3
9 South_Asian 1.66
10 Northwest_African 0.23
11 East_African 0.16
Myheritage said this person is just 3,8% Central Asia an 1,6% Inuit, although nothing atypical about him
Turk from Trabzon
1 Caucasus 53.65
2 Gedrosia 15.50
3 Atlantic_Med 12.68
4 Southwest_Asian 10.33
5 North_European 4.45
6 East_Asian 2.31
7 Southeast_Asian 0.45
8 Northwest_African 0.43
9 Sub_Saharan 0.21
Probably posted a long time ago - Serganover from Anthrogenica (Chechen)
L-M357
Gedrosia 23.11 Pct
Siberian 3.51 Pct
Northwest_African -
Southeast_Asian 0.21 Pct
Atlantic_Med 3.22 Pct
North_European 22.33 Pct
South_Asian 0.27 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 4.08 Pct
East_Asian -
Caucasus 43.26 Pct
Sub_Saharan -
Distance to: Serganover
2.53102746 Chechen
5.27798257 Ingush
6.77794217 Kumyks
7.42081532 Balkar
7.82826290 Lezgin
8.04055968 Avar_Dagestan
8.06879793 Qumuq
8.08732960 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
8.69353208 Circassian
8.97790065 Avar
Target: Serganover
Distance: 2.0182% / 2.01816828 | ADC: 0.25x
83.4 Chechen
11.0 Lak
3.0 North_Ossetians
1.2 Georgian_Svan
1.0 Saudis
0.4 Nganassan
Target: Serganover
Distance: 2.4974% / 2.49736314 | ADC: 0.5x
98.0 Chechen
1.8 Lezgin
0.2 Lak
* * *
A guy with Belorussian-sounding names but looks like a full-blown Dagestani! Possibly adopted?
Gedrosia 25.19 Pct
Siberian 3.28 Pct
Northwest_African -
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 4.30 Pct
North_European 23.28 Pct
South_Asian 0.96 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 1.95 Pct
East_Asian 1.96 Pct
Caucasus 39.08 Pct
Sub_Saharan -
Distance to: Stanislav
3.78498349 Avar_Dagestan
4.55027472 Avar
4.71586683 Lezgin
5.06684320 Lak
5.20633268 Tabasaran
5.42306187 Qumuq
5.47603871 Chechen
5.77014731 Dargin
8.25543457 Ingush
9.05477774 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
Target: Stanislav
Distance: 0.9342% / 0.93422753 | ADC: 0.25x
35.8 Lak
21.2 Avar_Dagestan
15.0 Kumyks
12.6 Chechen
10.4 Lezgin
2.6 Turkmens
2.2 Nogais
0.2 Hazara
Target: Stanislav
Distance: 1.6730% / 1.67299535 | ADC: 0.5x
30.0 Chechen
29.2 Avar_Dagestan
19.4 Lezgin
18.8 Lak
2.6 Nogais
Target: Stanislav
Distance: 2.4307% / 2.43070309 | ADC: 1x
65.2 Avar_Dagestan
22.6 Chechen
12.2 Lezgin
* * *
These two must be some kind of Central Asian Turkic, the guy also seems to be an adoptee (Anglo-American name)
Gedrosia 14.93 Pct
Siberian 16.22 Pct
Northwest_African -
Southeast_Asian 2.36 Pct
Atlantic_Med 4.72 Pct
North_European 18.64 Pct
South_Asian 1.88 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 2.58 Pct
East_Asian 14.59 Pct
Caucasus 24.06 Pct
Sub_Saharan -
Target: Malika
Distance: 1.5591% / 1.55907309 | ADC: 0.25x
39.2 Nogais
24.2 Uzbek
20.6 Turkmen_Uzbekistan
8.2 Karakalpak
4.6 Selkup
2.6 Crimean_Tatar_Steppe
0.6 Bashkir
C-M217
D4j
Gedrosia 10.89 Pct
Siberian 20.13 Pct
Northwest_African -
Southeast_Asian 2.60 Pct
Atlantic_Med 7.02 Pct
North_European 15.69 Pct
South_Asian 2.41 Pct
East_African 0.29 Pct
Southwest_Asian -
East_Asian 25.31 Pct
Caucasus 15.67 Pct
Sub_Saharan -
Target: Josef
Distance: 2.2971% / 2.29706039 | ADC: 0.25x
84.6 Karakalpak
10.6 Nogais
2.0 Sardinian
1.4 Georgian_Svan
1.4 Uzbeks
Turk from Trabzon
1 Caucasus 53.65
2 Gedrosia 15.50
3 Atlantic_Med 12.68
4 Southwest_Asian 10.33
5 North_European 4.45
6 East_Asian 2.31
7 Southeast_Asian 0.45
8 Northwest_African 0.43
9 Sub_Saharan 0.21
There seems to be some minor admixture. Although it's barely 3%. I'd say below 5 percent can be considered "assimilated" (5-10% Oghuz is basically nothing).
RatCat
09-09-2020, 05:13 PM
Probably posted a long time ago - Serganover from Anthrogenica (Chechen)
L-M357
Gedrosia 23.11 Pct
Siberian 3.51 Pct
Northwest_African -
Southeast_Asian 0.21 Pct
Atlantic_Med 3.22 Pct
North_European 22.33 Pct
South_Asian 0.27 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 4.08 Pct
East_Asian -
Caucasus 43.26 Pct
Sub_Saharan -
Distance to: Serganover
2.53102746 Chechen
5.27798257 Ingush
6.77794217 Kumyks
7.42081532 Balkar
7.82826290 Lezgin
8.04055968 Avar_Dagestan
8.06879793 Qumuq
8.08732960 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
8.69353208 Circassian
8.97790065 Avar
Interesting haplogroup for a Chechen, very rare.
Bender1999
09-09-2020, 05:17 PM
There seems to be some minor admixture. Although it's barely 3%. I'd say below 5 percent can be considered "assimilated" (5-10% Oghuz is basically nothing).
Yes, below 5% is still visible Turkic, but not substantial anymore.
Bender1999
09-09-2020, 05:18 PM
Interesting haplogroup for a Chechen, very rare.
Idk about Chechens,but haplogroup L is very common among Easter Blacksea Turks. Maybe some Caucasian subclade?
Interesting haplogroup for a Chechen, very rare.
Um, not really. L is the third most common HG among Chechens, I believe. Of course at least 70-75% of them are J2 and J1 (in that order).
RatCat
09-09-2020, 05:23 PM
Idk about Chechens,but haplogroup L is very common among Easter Blacksea Turks. Maybe some Caucasian subclade?
I dont know but it peaks in India and Pakistan.
Dr_Maul
09-09-2020, 05:26 PM
I dont know but it peaks in India and Pakistan.
It is not as uncommon as you would think outside of India
https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-U_I1OG8cjsc/WK1serM1_0I/AAAAAAAAFU0/ODRh6WbQ0Hcw4jARXZN0l2rBJlwmJGGSgCLcB/s823/L-M20.png
RatCat
09-09-2020, 05:31 PM
It is not as uncommon as you would think outside of India
Um, not really. L is the third most common HG among Chechens, I believe. Of course at least 70-75% of them are J2 and J1 (in that order).
https://i.imgur.com/OiBWNoG.png
Yes, A lot of Chechen have that haplogroup. I didn't know that.
Bender1999
09-09-2020, 05:36 PM
It is also very commong among Central Anatolian Turks and some groups in northern Syria and Druzes.
Yes, below 5% is still visible Turkic, but not substantial anymore.
This is how to post results properly
Gedrosia 15.50
Siberian -
Northwest_African 0.43
Southeast_Asian 0.45
Atlantic_Med 12.68
North_European 4.45
South_Asian -
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 10.33
East_Asian 2.31
Caucasus 53.65
Sub_Saharan 0.21
Distance to: Trabzon
2.68158535 Turk_East_Black_Sea
3.63967031 Greek_Pontus
5.35392379 Hemshin
5.84530581 Laz
6.36901876 Armenian_East
7.62256519 Turk_Ahiska
7.71109590 Armenian_West
8.57496356 Georgian_Adjara
9.53221380 Georgian_Turkey
9.57322307 Turk_East
Target: Trabzon
Distance: 2.0212% / 2.02117480 | ADC: 0.5x
98.4 Turk_East_Black_Sea
1.4 Sardinian
0.2 Japanese
Target: Trabzon
Distance: 1.3552% / 1.35517540 | ADC: 0.25x
76.8 Turk_East_Black_Sea
10.0 Georgian_Adjara
9.8 Greek_Pontus
2.4 Sardinian
0.6 Japanese
0.4 Chinese
Very interesting:
50% Turkmen from Syria +50% Arab from Syria
Turkmen side claims to have migrated from Turkmenistan in 18/19th century
Y DNA: J-M172
Gedrosian: 12.92
Siberian: 1.54
Northwest_African: 6.09
Southeast_Asian: 0.70
Atlantic_Med: 10.78
North_European: 4.47
South_Asian 1.64
East_African 4.31
Southwest_Asian: 22.45
East_Asian: 3.23
Caucasian: 31.26
Sub-Saharan: 0.63
Distance to: Syrian(Turkmen+Arab)
10.79291434 Jordanians
11.30733833 Syrians
11.34358850 Lebanese
13.58433289 Palestinian
14.43212736 Nusayri_Turkey
14.51784764 Turk_Southeast
14.73492111 Turkmen_Iraq
16.12085916 Turk_South
16.19471827 Turk_Central_West
16.71519070 Turk_Anatolia
16.71896528 Turk_Central_East
16.98449882 Kurd_Sorani
17.14743129 Azerbaijani
17.32370919 Egyptans
17.33272627 Turk_Southwest
17.61039750 Azerbaijani_Iran
17.86823438 Turk_West_BlackSea
17.90048882 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
18.23634558 Kurd_Kurmanji
18.26030668 Azerbaijani_Turkey
18.28532198 Uzbekistan_Jews
18.66576010 Yoruk
18.71537336 Turk_Northwest
19.28400892 Iraq_Jews
19.46816632 Zaza
Target: Syrian(Turkmen+Arab)
Distance: 2.0460% / 2.04604201 | ADC: 0.25x
71.2 Jordanians
12.2 Turkmen_Uzbekistan
5.2 Tajiks
4.2 Tajik_Herat
3.2 Moroccan
1.8 Egyptans
1.4 Canarias
0.8 Uygur
Dr_Maul
09-09-2020, 07:57 PM
Very interesting
a fellow J2b alpha
Bender1999
09-09-2020, 08:05 PM
Very interesting:
50% Turkmen from Syria +50% Arab from Syria
Turkmen side claims to have migrated from Turkmenistan in 18/19th century
Y DNA: J-M172
Gedrosian: 12.92
Siberian: 1.54
Northwest_African: 6.09
Southeast_Asian: 0.70
Atlantic_Med: 10.78
North_European: 4.47
South_Asian 1.64
East_African 4.31
Southwest_Asian: 22.45
East_Asian: 3.23
Caucasian: 31.26
Sub-Saharan: 0.63
Target: Syrian(Turkmen+Arab)
Distance: 2.0460% / 2.04604201 | ADC: 0.25x
71.2 Jordanians
12.2 Turkmen_Uzbekistan
5.2 Tajiks
4.2 Tajik_Herat
3.2 Moroccan
1.8 Egyptans
1.4 Canarias
0.8 Uygur
Finally! A Syrian Turkmen, not fully part but its very cool to see that. There were a lot of Turkmens in Syria, my tribe was once deported to Rakka. I am still asking what happened to them. Do you know from where, it looks like the person is from southern Syria? I never heard of Turkmens who migrated from Central Asia to Syria in 18/19th century.
Finally! A Syrian Turkmen, not fully part but its very cool to see that. There were a lot of Turkmens in Syria, my tribe was once deported to Rakka. I am still asking what happened to them. Do you know from where, it looks like the person is from southern Syria? I never heard of Turkmens who migrated from Central Asia to Syria in 18/19th century.
No I don't know from where.. Maybe it's just some kind of family telling. I also have never heard of it. They don't really know themselves.
Half Turkmen and still ca. 5% EE, so the Turkmen side might be 10% or so. For Syria that's quite a bit.
Half Turkmen and still ca. 5% EE, so the Turkmen side might be 10% or so. For Syria that's quite a bit.
Someone in the group said that Nogays were settled by the Ottomans in Syria/Golan in that time
Bender1999
09-09-2020, 08:18 PM
Half Turkmen and still ca. 50% EE, so the Turkmen side might be 10% or so. For Syria that's quite a bit.
There were a lot of Turkmens in Syria, before Turks migrated to Anatolia they settled in Syria. I don’t know since and until when, but there were Yörüks who spent the summer in Sivas and went to Aleppo in the winters.
Bender1999
09-09-2020, 08:19 PM
Someone in the group said that Nogays were settled by the Ottomans in Syria/Golan in that time
I never heard something like that, just many Circissian were settled to Syria but Nogais?
Edit: Nogais were in Northsyria but no information about settlements. They were probably irregular soldiers?
Kaspias
09-09-2020, 09:22 PM
Finally! A Syrian Turkmen, not fully part but its very cool to see that. There were a lot of Turkmens in Syria, my tribe was once deported to Rakka. I am still asking what happened to them. Do you know from where, it looks like the person is from southern Syria? I never heard of Turkmens who migrated from Central Asia to Syria in 18/19th century.
Şam Türkmens were migrated to the Balkans in the 18th century thanks to the tribe wars between Turks and Arabs in the region. But their origin should be different than the Golan Turkmens. They were absorbed among Balkan Turks.
Two results from the region they were settled:
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 24.82
2 North_European 22.7
3 Atlantic_Med 21.58
4 Southwest_Asian 10.43
5 Gedrosia 8.45
6 Siberian 3.76
7 East_Asian 3.68
8 South_Asian 2.36
9 Northwest_African 2.12
10 Sub_Saharan 0.1
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 28.64
2 North_European 25.01
3 Atlantic_Med 19.59
4 Southwest_Asian 11.09
5 Gedrosia 6.86
6 Siberian 4.88
7 East_Asian 1.67
8 Northwest_African 1.16
9 Southeast_Asian 1.1
Slightly elevated Southwest Asian and African, that's it.
Bender1999
09-09-2020, 09:53 PM
Pre-Turkic Azerbaijan, Kur-Araz lowland 5140 years old
yDNA: G-Y37100
Gedrosian: 22.08 Pct
Siberian: -
Northwest_African: -
Southeast_Asian: -
Atlantic_Med: 4.26 Pct
North_European: 5.63 Pct
South_Asian -
East_African -
Southwest_Asian: 7.07 Pct
East_Asian: -
Caucasian: 60.95 Pct
Sub-Saharan: -
Iranian from Fars province
# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 37.91
2 Gedrosia 29.09
3 Southwest_Asian 13.45
4 Atlantic_Med 8.00
5 North_European 6.79
6 South_Asian 3.45
RatCat
09-09-2020, 10:05 PM
Pre-Turkic Azerbaijan, Kur-Araz lowland 5140 years old
yDNA: G-Y37100
Gedrosian: 22.08 Pct
Siberian: -
Northwest_African: -
Southeast_Asian: -
Atlantic_Med: 4.26 Pct
North_European: 5.63 Pct
South_Asian -
East_African -
Southwest_Asian: 7.07 Pct
East_Asian: -
Caucasian: 60.95 Pct
Sub-Saharan: -
Close to Georgians
Distance to: Pre-TurkicAzerbaijan
4.01736232 Georgian_Imereti
4.18957038 Georgian_Turkey
5.42216746 Georgian_Mingrelian
5.42433406 Georgian_Adjara
6.51866551 Georgian_Gurian
7.41677153 Georgian_Svan
8.48934626 Laz
9.35769737 Hemshin
9.54832446 Abkhazian
9.69776778 Turk_Ahiska
12.47149951 Turk_East_Black_Sea
13.71327094 Greek_Pontus
15.29592756 Armenian_East
15.88345995 Azerbaijan_Jews
16.02565131 Georgia_Jews
16.77656997 Udi_Azerbaijan
17.44844406 Armenian_West
18.02024417 Turk_East
18.13770382 North_Ossetians
18.29962568 Circassian
18.64109975 Ossetian
19.47349994 Assyrian
19.80586529 Uzbekistan_Jews
20.40179649 Kurd_KAZ
20.45729943 Talysh_Azerbaijan
Target: Pre-TurkicAzerbaijan
Distance: 3.4801% / 3.48013097
58.8 Georgian_Turkey
40.2 Georgian_Mingrelian
1.0 Brahui
Close to Georgians
Distance to: Pre-TurkicAzerbaijan
4.01736232 Georgian_Imereti
4.18957038 Georgian_Turkey
5.42216746 Georgian_Mingrelian
5.42433406 Georgian_Adjara
6.51866551 Georgian_Gurian
7.41677153 Georgian_Svan
8.48934626 Laz
9.35769737 Hemshin
9.54832446 Abkhazian
9.69776778 Turk_Ahiska
12.47149951 Turk_East_Black_Sea
13.71327094 Greek_Pontus
15.29592756 Armenian_East
15.88345995 Azerbaijan_Jews
16.02565131 Georgia_Jews
16.77656997 Udi_Azerbaijan
17.44844406 Armenian_West
18.02024417 Turk_East
18.13770382 North_Ossetians
18.29962568 Circassian
18.64109975 Ossetian
19.47349994 Assyrian
19.80586529 Uzbekistan_Jews
20.40179649 Kurd_KAZ
20.45729943 Talysh_Azerbaijan
Target: Pre-TurkicAzerbaijan
Distance: 3.4801% / 3.48013097
58.8 Georgian_Turkey
40.2 Georgian_Mingrelian
1.0 Brahui
Yes. Couple of 1000 years later the result from same region was more Armenian like. Modern descendants of pre-turkic (Caucasian Albania) people plot between Armenians and Kurds. So we have a good picture on genetic history of Azerbaijan.
A Soviet Muslim name but he can't be Azerbaijani
Population
Gedrosia 21.36 Pct
Siberian -
Northwest_African -
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 8.46 Pct
North_European 9.25 Pct
South_Asian 1.20 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 8.14 Pct
East_Asian -
Caucasus 51.59 Pct
Sub_Saharan -
Distance to: S.S.
3.35305831 Turk_Ahiska
7.92808930 Abkhazian
8.39496873 Armenian_East
8.63618550 Turk_East
8.65378530 Georgian_Turkey
8.69684426 Laz
8.72306139 Hemshin
8.98198753 Georgian_Adjara
9.00006667 Turk_East_Black_Sea
9.08566453 Georgian_Imereti
Target: S.S.
Distance: 2.4333% / 2.43331618 | ADC: 0.5x
89.8 Turk_Ahiska
10.2 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
Target: S.S.
Distance: 1.6124% / 1.61236946 | ADC: 0.25x
83.2 Turk_Ahiska
7.0 Lezgins
5.6 Iran_Mazandaran
3.0 Georgian_Adjara
1.2 French_Basque
This guy is an Ahiska/Meskhetian Turk. Ask me if you need the kit number (it's a rare ethnic group).
Azerbaijani from Gadabay:
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/76/Gadabay_in_Azerbaijan_%28semi-secession%29.svg/1200px-Gadabay_in_Azerbaijan_%28semi-secession%29.svg.png
Gedrosian: 24.04
Siberian: 2.62
Northwest_African: 0.00
Southeast_Asian: 0.43
Atlantic_Med: 8.51
North_European: 5.52
South_Asian 0.00
East_African 0.00
Southwest_Asian: 10.45
East_Asian: 8.30
Caucasian: 39.53
SSA: 0.60
Distance to: Azeri_Gadabay
7.23579298 Azerbaijani_Iran
7.38976319 Azerbaijani_Turkey
7.62076112 Azerbaijani
9.06013245 Talysh_Azerbaijan
9.15855338 Kurd_Kurmanji
9.20373294 Zaza
9.58567160 Turk_Southeast
9.79834170 Turkmen_Iraq
10.49860943 Iranian
10.64618241 Kurd_KAZ
10.78803040 Kurd_Sorani
10.79089894 Lur_Iran
11.13553771 Turk_Central_East
11.35416664 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
11.39820600 Turk_South
11.56045847 Udi_Azerbaijan
11.71706875 Turk_East
12.25683483 Iranian_Fars
12.60311866 Turk_Anatolia
12.64651731 Iran_Khorasan
13.00525663 Turk_Central_West
13.79151913 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
13.82413831 Uzbekistan_Jews
14.02004993 Yoruk
14.35108358 Iran_Mazandaran
Target: Azeri_Gadabay
Distance: 3.6262% / 3.62616470 | ADC: 0.25x
44.4 Azerbaijani_Turkey
39.0 Kurd_KAZ
9.2 Iranian
3.2 JPT30
2.0 Japanese
1.4 Georgian_Adjara
Iranian (no further information):
Gedrosian: 28.16
Siberian: 1.95
Northwest_African: 0.94
Southeast_Asian: 2.10
Atlantic_Med: 4.95
North_European: 11.45
South_Asian 4.90
East_African 0.39
Southwest_Asian: 11.85
East_Asian: 0.00
Caucasian: 33.32
Sub-Saharan: 0.00
Distance to: Artab
6.47960647 Iranian_Fars
6.69233143 Iran_Khorasan
9.20530825 Iranian
9.22966413 Iran_Mazandaran
9.98371173 Kurd_Sorani
10.23682568 Kurd_Kurmanji
10.24285117 Lur_Iran
10.34398376 Azerbaijani_Iran
10.49736634 Talysh_Azerbaijan
11.10247270 Azerbaijani
11.23716601 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
11.42209263 Turkmens
11.62264600 Kurd_KAZ
11.89560423 Zaza
12.20149991 Turkmen_Iraq
12.25896815 Turkmen_Iran
12.55715334 Azerbaijani_Turkey
13.99926427 Turk_Southeast
14.03448966 Lezgin
14.06895874 Parsi_India
15.04146934 Iran_Bandari
15.09997351 Tajik_Herat
16.12869183 Qumuq
16.16959802 Udi_Azerbaijan
16.55151353 Turk_South
Target: Artab
Distance: 2.0859% / 2.08588617 | ADC: 0.25x
66.2 Iranian_Fars
15.4 Lezgin
12.2 Yagnobi
3.6 Iran_Mazandaran
1.6 Tabasaran
Some interesting results. Possibly a Nogai? Definitely Turkic
N-M232
Gedrosia 18.58 Pct
Siberian 12.30 Pct
Northwest_African -
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 5.77 Pct
North_European 19.70 Pct
South_Asian 1.92 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 1.76 Pct
East_Asian 15.96 Pct
Caucasus 23.99 Pct
Sub_Saharan -
Target: Naiman
Distance: 2.3154% / 2.31543589 | ADC: 0.25x
30.0 Uzbeks
26.8 Uzbek
23.2 Nogais
13.4 Dargin
4.8 Crimean_Tatar_Steppe
1.8 Qumuq
Assyrian from Mosul, Iraq
Nazarene(Assyrian),17.58,0,2.84,0.10,10.15,2.34,1. 63,0,18.75,0.57,46.04,0
Distance to: Nazarene(Assyrian)
4.13820009 Assyrian
4.79729090 Uzbekistan_Jews
5.57561656 Armenian_West
6.86949780 Iranian_Jews
7.05648638 Azerbaijan_Jews
7.09577339 Iraq_Jews
7.38371180 Georgia_Jews
8.05866614 Armenian_East
8.69278436 Nusayri_Turkey
8.90724986 Turk_East
Target: Nazarene(Assyrian)
Distance: 1.8610% / 1.86104994 | ADC: 0.5x
48.8 Assyrian
29.2 Uzbekistan_Jews
19.4 Nusayri_Turkey
2.2 Armenian_West
0.4 Mozabite
Target: Nazarene(Assyrian)
Distance: 0.8951% / 0.89505268 | ADC: 0.25x
50.8 Assyrian
22.2 Uzbekistan_Jews
14.2 Nusayri_Turkey
8.6 Armenian_West
2.2 Druze
1.4 Mozabite
0.6 Pulliyar
Bender1999
09-11-2020, 01:40 PM
How does look a Bukharian Jewish result? It seems they didn’t mix with Tadjiks/Uzbeks.
Dr_Maul
09-11-2020, 01:47 PM
How does look a Bukharian Jewish result? It seems they didn’t mix with Tadjiks/Uzbeks.
They are somewhat mixed with Tajiks
How does look a Bukharian Jewish result? It seems they didn’t mix with Tadjiks/Uzbeks.
They are somewhat mixed with Tajiks
They are almost like Persian/Kurdish Jews. Eastern Mizrahi.
Uzbekistan_Jews,20.30,0.60,0.90,0.60,7.70,4.40,1.3 0,0.30,18.50,0.00,45.40,0.00
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