Dodecad k12b West, Central & South Asian results Vol. 2

[Leto]

Likely a Saudi

Gedrosia 5.37 Pct
Siberian -
Northwest_African 3.96 Pct
Southeast_Asian 0.23 Pct
Atlantic_Med 6.22 Pct
North_European -
South_Asian 1.12 Pct
East_African 4.45 Pct
Southwest_Asian 47.27 Pct
East_Asian -
Caucasus 31.38 Pct
Sub_Saharan -

Distance to: MYZ
5.25718556 Bedouin
9.09492166 Yemen_Jews
15.51140226 Yemenese
19.02031283 Palestinian
21.36554469 Egyptans
21.60078702 Jordanians
22.61385195 Syrians
23.79134927 Saudis
23.96410023 Samaritians
27.29307605 Lebanese

Target: MYZ
Distance: 2.9403% / 2.94034294 | ADC: 0.5x
70.2 Bedouin
29.4 Yemen_Jews
0.4 Saudis

Target: MYZ
Distance: 1.5298% / 1.52982643 | ADC: 0.25x
51.6 Bedouin
45.2 Yemen_Jews
2.8 Brahui
0.4 Bnei_Menashe_Jews

His Eurogenes results are very different:

North_Atlantic -
Baltic -
West_Med 6.13 Pct
West_Asian 8.92 Pct
East_Med 42.71 Pct
Red_Sea 35.59 Pct
South_Asian 1.40 Pct
East_Asian -
Siberian -
Amerindian -
Oceanian 0.74 Pct
Northeast_African 4.50 Pct
Sub-Saharan -

1 Saudi 1.9


* * *

Armenian father, Volga Tatar mother

Gedrosia 12.17 Pct
Siberian 6.03 Pct
Northwest_African 0.26 Pct
Southeast_Asian 0.25 Pct
Atlantic_Med 11.82 Pct
North_European 26.18 Pct
South_Asian 2.32 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 7.44 Pct
East_Asian 5.45 Pct
Caucasus 28.07 Pct
Sub_Saharan -

Target: Artem
Distance: 2.0164% / 2.01643892 | ADC: 0.25x
24.8 Qumuq
21.0 Crimean_Tatar_Mountain
20.8 Turk_Bulgaria
16.6 Crimean_Tatar_Steppe
5.4 Nogais
4.2 Chuvash
2.8 Mordovian
2.4 Saudis
2.0 Balkan_Gypsy

With everything except for Tatar, Bashkir, Armenian and Assyrian removed

Target: Artem
Distance: 2.7135% / 2.71348933
56.0 Tatar_Kazan
32.0 Armenian_East
12.0 Assyrian

Eurogenes:
50% Assyrian + 50% Tatar @ 2.89

[Bender1999]

Likely a Saudi

Gedrosia 5.37 Pct
Siberian -
Northwest_African 3.96 Pct
Southeast_Asian 0.23 Pct
Atlantic_Med 6.22 Pct
North_European -
South_Asian 1.12 Pct
East_African 4.45 Pct
Southwest_Asian 47.27 Pct
East_Asian -
Caucasus 31.38 Pct
Sub_Saharan -

Distance to: MYZ
5.25718556 Bedouin
9.09492166 Yemen_Jews
15.51140226 Yemenese
19.02031283 Palestinian
21.36554469 Egyptans
21.60078702 Jordanians
22.61385195 Syrians
23.79134927 Saudis
23.96410023 Samaritians
27.29307605 Lebanese

Target: MYZ
Distance: 2.9403% / 2.94034294 | ADC: 0.5x
70.2 Bedouin
29.4 Yemen_Jews
0.4 Saudis

Target: MYZ
Distance: 1.5298% / 1.52982643 | ADC: 0.25x
51.6 Bedouin
45.2 Yemen_Jews
2.8 Brahui
0.4 Bnei_Menashe_Jews

His Eurogenes results are very different:

North_Atlantic -
Baltic -
West_Med 6.13 Pct
West_Asian 8.92 Pct
East_Med 42.71 Pct[/B
Red_Sea 35.59 Pct
South_Asian 1.40 Pct
East_Asian -
Siberian -
Amerindian -
Oceanian 0.74 Pct
Northeast_African 4.50 Pct
[B]Sub-Saharan -

1 Saudi 1.9




Very low North African and no SSA, considering that for example Levantine Arabs for example show the same amount North African and sometimes even some SSA.

[Leto]

Very low North African and no SSA, considering that for example Levantine Arabs for example show the same amount North African and sometimes even some SSA.
Yeah, that guy is very pure and native. Though the NE African on K13 and East African on K12b is also SSA, just not West African. Some minor East African has likely been in Arabia and the Levant since time immemorial.

[Dr_Maul]

Very low North African and no SSA, considering that for example Levantine Arabs for example show the same amount North African and sometimes even some SSA.

Many south Levant types like Palestinians often get up to 4% SSA so it is definitely interesting to see this guy with 0, I always assumed Saudis would be between that and Yemeni amount of SSA

[Leto]

Many south Levant types like Palestinians often get up to 4% SSA so it is definitely interesting to see this guy with 0, I always assumed Saudis would be between that and Yemeni amount of SSA
He does have it

East_African 4.45 Pct

[Bender1999]

Many south Levant types like Palestinians often get up to 4% SSA so it is definitely interesting to see this guy with 0, I always assumed Saudis would be between that and Yemeni amount of SSA

Exactly they were in my mind. I mean i don’t expect high SSA but at least some. Even palestine turkmens have more SSA haha.


Yeah, that guy is very pure and native. Though the NE African on K13 and East African on K12b is also SSA, just not West African. Some minor East African has likely been in Arabia and the Levant since time immemorial.

Probably like the calculator said a Bedouin. Also high Caucasian, that is very surprising. But in contrast to „northern“ Westasian low Gedrosian, it seems this admixture has nothing to do with Arabs(if we are conservatives this person as proxy for „real“ arab)

[Dr_Maul]

He does have it

East_African 4.45 Pct

Hmm yes but I meant more West African as in the Sub_Saharan component

[Leto]

Hmm yes but I meant more West African as in the Sub_Saharan component
Are you trying to take away the East Africans' blackness? You sure don't wanna deal with a high T black woman yelling at you :swl

[Leto]

Half Iranian half Northwestern Euro (Vahaduo is shit for her)

Gedrosia 16.63 Pct
Siberian 0.14 Pct
Northwest_African -
Southeast_Asian 1.64 Pct
Atlantic_Med 21.90 Pct
North_European 26.91 Pct
South_Asian 2.08 Pct
East_African 1.46 Pct
Southwest_Asian 7.38 Pct
East_Asian -
Caucasus 21.85 Pct
Sub_Saharan -

54.9% German (Dodecad) + 45.1% Iranians (Behar) @ 2.92

[Kyp]

Adiyaman, Turkey result (Turkish/Kurdish mixed):

Gedrosian: 20.60
Siberian: 2.19
Northwest_African: 0.98
Southeast_Asian: 0.38
Atlantic_Med: 10.68
North_European: 8.37
South_Asian 2.20
East_African 0.13
Southwest_Asian: 13.74
East_Asian: 1.89
Caucasian: 38.86
SSA: 0.00

Distance to: Adiyaman
3.08172030 Azerbaijani
3.31826762 Turk_Southeast
3.54235797 Azerbaijani_Iran
3.72400322 Azerbaijani_Turkey
4.70577305 Kurd_Kurmanji
5.17622449 Turkmen_Iraq
5.45764601 Zaza
6.39363746 Turk_Central_East
6.54725897 Kurd_Sorani
7.65619357 Turk_East
7.67312844 Turk_South
7.68429567 Talysh_Azerbaijan
8.10045678 Udi_Azerbaijan
8.35681159 Turk_Central_West
8.54071426 Turk_Anatolia
8.75808769 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
9.72995375 Kurd_KAZ
9.78212145 Lur_Iran
9.85669316 Uzbekistan_Jews
10.36544259 Iranian
10.63545956 Iranian_Fars
10.82481409 Turk_West_BlackSea
11.33661325 Turk_Southwest
12.22726053 Armenian_East
12.35975728 Azerbaijani_Dagestan

Target: Adiyaman
Distance: 0.6197% / 0.61970384 | ADC: 0.25x
45.0 Turk_Southeast
44.6 Kurd_Kurmanji
5.8 Azerbaijani
2.6 Greek_Crete
1.2 Italy_Abruzzo

[Leto]

Adiyaman, Turkey result (Turkish/Kurdish mixed):
...

Distance to: Adiyaman
3.08172030 Azerbaijani
...

And he came up as Azerbaijani :)

[Kyp]

And he came up as Azerbaijani :)

What could this result be?

Gedrosian: 31.02
Siberian: 2.74
Northwest_African: 0.00
Southeast_Asian: 0.00
Atlantic_Med: 3.54
North_European: 12.12
South_Asian 18.36
East_African 0.00
Southwest_Asian: 2.79
East_Asian: 6.42
Caucasian: 23.01
Sub-Saharan: 0.00

Distance to: So
5.19072249 Tajik_Kabul
8.20769151 Pashtun_Kandahar
8.72234487 Tajik_Herat
9.88923152 Tajik_Panjshir&Kapisa
11.42447373 Pashtun_Tarkalani
11.71486236 Pashtun_Uthmankhel
12.11198167 Pashtun_Yusafzai
13.18841158 Kho
13.66161045 Pamiri_Ishkashim
13.72965040 Tajik_Tajikistan
14.62795269 Tajiks
15.07777172 Nuristani
15.22014126 Parsi_India
15.42449027 Kalash
15.80107908 Turkmens
16.29859196 Iran_Bandari
16.37759445 Pamiri_Shughnan
16.60762475 Turkmen_Iran
16.67126270 Iran_Khorasan
17.14145851 Pamiri_Rushan
17.32417386 Yagnobi
19.06397125 Pathan
20.45175298 Burusho
21.75948529 Balkan_Gypsy
22.40520475 Iranian_Fars

Target: So
Distance: 1.6810% / 1.68097042 | ADC: 0.25x
86.0 Tajik_Kabul
6.0 North_Ossetians
4.4 Bnei_Menashe_Jews
3.2 Georgian_Mingrelian
0.4 Japanese

[Leto]

What could this result be?

Gedrosian: 31.02
Siberian: 2.74
Northwest_African: 0.00
Southeast_Asian: 0.00
Atlantic_Med: 3.54
North_European: 12.12
South_Asian 18.36
East_African 0.00
Southwest_Asian: 2.79
East_Asian: 6.42
Caucasian: 23.01
Sub-Saharan: 0.00

Distance to: So
5.19072249 Tajik_Kabul
8.20769151 Pashtun_Kandahar
8.72234487 Tajik_Herat
9.88923152 Tajik_Panjshir&Kapisa
11.42447373 Pashtun_Tarkalani
11.71486236 Pashtun_Uthmankhel
12.11198167 Pashtun_Yusafzai
13.18841158 Kho
13.66161045 Pamiri_Ishkashim
13.72965040 Tajik_Tajikistan
14.62795269 Tajiks
15.07777172 Nuristani
15.22014126 Parsi_India
15.42449027 Kalash
15.80107908 Turkmens
16.29859196 Iran_Bandari
16.37759445 Pamiri_Shughnan
16.60762475 Turkmen_Iran
16.67126270 Iran_Khorasan
17.14145851 Pamiri_Rushan
17.32417386 Yagnobi
19.06397125 Pathan
20.45175298 Burusho
21.75948529 Balkan_Gypsy
22.40520475 Iranian_Fars

Target: So
Distance: 1.6810% / 1.68097042 | ADC: 0.25x
86.0 Tajik_Kabul
6.0 North_Ossetians
4.4 Bnei_Menashe_Jews
3.2 Georgian_Mingrelian
0.4 Japanese
I think some kind of Afghan. Maybe Afghan Tajik.

[Chaos One]

I think some kind of Afghan. Maybe Afghan Tajik.

Yes, probably Afghan Tajik. If he was from Tajikistan he could get some Uzbek on the list before Pathan or Burusho. I would even say he can even have some Pashtun mix but anyway, not that clear.

[Leto]

Yes, probably Afghan Tajik. If he was from Tajikistan he could get some Uzbek on the list before Pathan or Burusho. I would even say he can even have some Pashtun mix but anyway, not that clear.
That high South Asian is impossible in Tajikistan. They are like 5-10% most of the time.

[Leto]

...

[Chaos One]

That high South Asian is impossible in Tajikistan. They are like 5-10% most of the time.

Weirdly enough, I do remember seeing some Southern Uzbek samples with 15%-20% South Asian, but never Tajiks.

[Leto]

Weirdly enough, I do remember seeing some Southern Uzbek samples with 15%-20% South Asian, but never Tajiks.
I think that must've been Eurogenes, not Dodecad or Harappa. Though Afghan Uzbeks may be indeed more Southern as anyone else in Afghanistan.

[Bender1999]

Weirdly enough, I do remember seeing some Southern Uzbek samples with 15%-20% South Asian, but never Tajiks.

I saw really south asian influenced Tadjiks(but yes not with this calculator) but honestly never saw an Uzbek with more than 10% south asian. Maybe a Tadjik/Uzbek mix, some parts of Central Asia are indistinguishable between Turkics and Iranics, at least culturally and linguistically.

[Chaos One]

I saw really south asian influenced Tadjiks(but yes not with this calculator) but honestly never saw an Uzbek with more than 10% south asian. Maybe a Tadjik/Uzbek mix, some parts of Central Asia are indistinguishable between Turkics and Iranics, at least culturally and linguistically.

That's why I said Southern, since they tend to be more Iranic oriented than Northern/Eastern ones. Places like Samarkand or Bukhara are somewhat different from Andijon or Tashkent.

[Leto]

Some Levantine Arabs (not sure which ones exactly). Just testing the current Levantine averages which don't look good...

Three siblings. They seem to have a bit of white ancestry (no kidding)

Gedrosia 11.14 Pct
Siberian 1.24 Pct
Northwest_African 3.15 Pct
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 17.28 Pct
North_European 3.37 Pct
South_Asian -
East_African 1.66 Pct
Southwest_Asian 19.98 Pct
East_Asian 0.16 Pct
Caucasus 41.46 Pct
Sub_Saharan 0.57 Pct

Distance to: Atef
2.69258240 Nusayri_Turkey
6.87554361 Lebanese
9.68455988 Greek_Cappadocia
10.55758495 Druze
10.60168854 Syrians
10.64374464 Cypriots
12.04587481 Jordanians
12.36673765 Armenian_West
12.62189764 Sephardic_Jews
13.03387510 Greek_Crete

Target: Atef
Distance: 1.7141% / 1.71408308 | ADC: 0.5x
86.6 Nusayri_Turkey
8.0 Sephardic_Jews
4.0 Syrians
1.4 Morocco_Jews


Gedrosia 12.47 Pct
Siberian -
Northwest_African 3.80 Pct
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 16.34 Pct
North_European 4.01 Pct
South_Asian 0.57 Pct
East_African 2.06 Pct
Southwest_Asian 19.54 Pct
East_Asian 0.85 Pct
Caucasus 40.36 Pct
Sub_Saharan -

Distance to: Majed
3.22690254 Nusayri_Turkey
6.59050833 Lebanese
10.44481211 Syrians
10.48737336 Greek_Cappadocia
11.69649948 Druze
11.83743215 Jordanians
12.23766726 Armenian_West
12.30084143 Turk_Southeast
12.42503924 Cypriots
12.43343878 Turk_Central_East

Target: Majed
Distance: 2.1839% / 2.18390288 | ADC: 0.5x
79.2 Nusayri_Turkey
10.8 Lebanese
3.8 Italy_Sicily
3.4 Turk_Southeast
2.8 Morocco_Jews


Gedrosia 12.45 Pct
Siberian -
Northwest_African 3.78 Pct
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 15.44 Pct
North_European 3.46 Pct
South_Asian 1.31 Pct
East_African 1.97 Pct
Southwest_Asian 20.07 Pct
East_Asian 0.36 Pct
Caucasus 40.88 Pct
Sub_Saharan 0.28 Pct

Distance to: Mona
2.76269796 Nusayri_Turkey
5.63616891 Lebanese
9.57437726 Syrians
10.68601422 Druze
10.81043015 Greek_Cappadocia
11.04374936 Jordanians
11.72981245 Armenian_West
12.38161540 Iraq_Jews
12.48641262 Assyrian
12.52471157 Cypriots

Target: Mona
Distance: 1.6844% / 1.68437620 | ADC: 0.5x
79.8 Nusayri_Turkey
15.8 Lebanese
2.4 Balkan_Gypsy
2.0 Jordanians

* * *

U1a E-L485

Gedrosia 13.34 Pct
Siberian -
Northwest_African 3.40 Pct
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 11.39 Pct
North_European 3.42 Pct
South_Asian 0.14 Pct
East_African 2.21 Pct
Southwest_Asian 22.00 Pct
East_Asian -
Caucasus 44.07 Pct
Sub_Saharan -

Distance to: Nader
4.44597571 Lebanese
5.77769850 Nusayri_Turkey
7.69458901 Iraq_Jews
7.76918271 Druze
8.81210531 Syrians
8.95168141 Assyrian
9.43401823 Uzbekistan_Jews
9.62123693 Armenian_West
9.89761082 Iranian_Jews
10.41204591 Jordanians

Target: Nader
Distance: 1.2172% / 1.21721072 | ADC: 0.5x
70.4 Lebanese
16.8 Assyrian
10.8 Armenian_West
2.0 Iraq_Jews

Target: Nader
Distance: 1.0642% / 1.06418763 | ADC: 0.25x
67.2 Lebanese
13.2 Armenian_West
13.2 Assyrian
3.4 Iraq_Jews
3.0 Georgia_Jews


H14 J2a1a

Gedrosia 12.87 Pct
Siberian 0.18 Pct
Northwest_African 3.89 Pct
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 13.63 Pct
North_European 4.20 Pct
South_Asian 1.73 Pct
East_African 1.82 Pct
Southwest_Asian 21.47 Pct
East_Asian 0.07 Pct
Caucasus 40.12 Pct
Sub_Saharan -

Distance to: Hussein
4.32987298 Lebanese
4.80871085 Nusayri_Turkey
7.91787219 Syrians
9.71049947 Jordanians
11.04916739 Druze
11.66763901 Iraq_Jews
11.79346429 Uzbekistan_Jews
12.22937038 Turk_Southeast
12.32733142 Assyrian
12.33458147 Turkmen_Iraq

Target: Hussein
Distance: 1.8646% / 1.86455832 | ADC: 0.5x
56.6 Lebanese
36.2 Nusayri_Turkey
3.4 Turkmen_Iraq
2.6 Balkan_Gypsy
1.2 Parsi_India

Target: Hussein
Distance: 1.1284% / 1.12837800 | ADC: 0.25x
51.8 Lebanese
39.2 Nusayri_Turkey
4.6 Syrians
3.0 Jatt
1.0 Balkan_Gypsy
0.4 Argyll

[Leto]

Assyrian from Mosul, Iraq


Nazarene(Assyrian),17.58,0,2.84,0.10,10.15,2.34,1. 63,0,18.75,0.57,46.04,0

Distance to: Nazarene(Assyrian)
4.13820009 Assyrian
4.79729090 Uzbekistan_Jews
5.57561656 Armenian_West
6.86949780 Iranian_Jews
7.05648638 Azerbaijan_Jews
7.09577339 Iraq_Jews
7.38371180 Georgia_Jews
8.05866614 Armenian_East
8.69278436 Nusayri_Turkey
8.90724986 Turk_East

Target: Nazarene(Assyrian)
Distance: 1.8610% / 1.86104994 | ADC: 0.5x
48.8 Assyrian
29.2 Uzbekistan_Jews
19.4 Nusayri_Turkey
2.2 Armenian_West
0.4 Mozabite

Target: Nazarene(Assyrian)
Distance: 0.8951% / 0.89505268 | ADC: 0.25x
50.8 Assyrian
22.2 Uzbekistan_Jews
14.2 Nusayri_Turkey
8.6 Armenian_West
2.2 Druze
1.4 Mozabite
0.6 Pulliyar

New Assyrian references:

Distance to: Nazarene(Assyrian)
2.11679002 Assyrian_South
2.54650741 Assyrian_North
2.64107932 Assyrian_West
4.35418190 Iraqi_Jew
4.53126914 Mandean
4.79729090 Uzbekistan_Jews
5.57561656 Armenian_West
6.86949780 Iranian_Jews
7.05648638 Azerbaijan_Jews
7.38371180 Georgia_Jews

Target: Nazarene(Assyrian)
Distance: 1.2858% / 1.28580083 | ADC: 0.5x
94.8 Assyrian_South
4.2 Uzbekistan_Jews
0.8 Mozabite
0.2 Pulliyar

Target: Nazarene(Assyrian)
Distance: 0.6802% / 0.68021319 | ADC: 0.25x
88.8 Assyrian_South
7.4 Uzbekistan_Jews
1.8 Georgia_Jews
1.2 Mozabite
0.6 Pulliyar
0.2 Japanese

[Leto]

previously posted results

[harutsafaryan07]

Armenian from Germany

Gedrosia 19.39
Siberian 0
Northwest_African 0.75
Southeast_Asian 0
Atlantic_Med 9.82
North_European 3.98
South_Asian 0
East_African 0
Southwest_Asian 14.66
East_Asian 0
Caucasus 51.40
Sub_Saharan 0

Distance to: Armenian_Germany
3.82365009 Armenian_East
4.07653039 Armenian_West
4.69776543 Azerbaijan_Jews
5.48488833 Georgia_Jews
6.47145270 Assyrian_North
6.53466908 Greek_Pontus
6.61362231 Turk_East_Black_Sea
6.84119873 Hemshin
6.88946297 Assyrian_West
7.12548946 Assyrian_South
7.22437541 Turk_Ahiska
7.66596374 Uzbekistan_Jews
7.73470749 Turk_East
7.78551219 Udi_Azerbaijan
7.95319433 Laz
9.62325309 Iranian_Jews
9.79727003 Georgian_Adjara
10.37237678 Georgian_Turkey
10.80531351 Mandean
11.08559877 Iraqi_Jew
11.27440908 Zaza
12.66529115 Greek_Cappadocia
12.87104891 Georgian_Imereti
12.89153210 Kurd_KAZ
12.97508381 Talysh_Azerbaijan

Gedrosia 18.37
Siberian 0
Northwest_African 0.46
Southeast_Asian 0
Atlantic_Med 11.38
North_European 4.29 Pct
South_Asian 0.40
East_African 0.33
Southwest_Asian 14.01
East_Asian 0.46
Caucasus 50.31
Sub_Saharan 0

Distance to: Armenian_Germany_2
2.34529316 Armenian_East
2.91461833 Armenian_West
6.01483167 Greek_Pontus
6.05540255 Turk_East_Black_Sea
6.08158696 Azerbaijan_Jews
6.25013600 Turk_East
6.37145195 Assyrian_North
6.50518255 Assyrian_West
6.77313074 Georgia_Jews
6.90742354 Assyrian_South
7.14254156 Udi_Azerbaijan
7.41571979 Hemshin
7.51030625 Turk_Ahiska
7.96741489 Uzbekistan_Jews
8.48435030 Laz
10.54503201 Greek_Cappadocia
10.71803154 Georgian_Adjara
10.81747198 Iranian_Jews
10.84963133 Mandean
10.88776377 Zaza
10.95919705 Iraqi_Jew
11.39761817 Georgian_Turkey
12.35893199 Nusayri_Turkey
12.49361037 Azerbaijani_Turkey
12.87123926 Kurd_Kurmanji

[Leto]

"From Germany"? Lol. That's irrelevant, the Armenians are not native to Germany in any way, shape or form. Their parents came from elsewhere.

[Bender1999]

"From Germany"? Lol. That's irrelevant, the Armenians are not native to Germany in any way, shape or form. Their parents came from elsewhere.

An Almancı :rolleyes:

[harutsafaryan07]

"From Germany"? Lol. That's irrelevant, the Armenians are not native to Germany in any way, shape or form. Their parents came from elsewhere.where i say did that they are native?

Отправлено с моего DLI-TL20 через Tapatalk

[Kaspias]

Another DNA twin with very diverse background. Pan-Balkan Turk :D

Each marker is equal to 1/8 ancestry. 3th marker is Crimean Tatar who migrated to Dobruja following the Crimean War. The rest are Balkan Turks.


https://www.mapcustomizer.com/map/q2s1f


y-DNA: J-FGC35461. Kırklareli, Vize. -> https://www.yfull.com/tree/J-FGC35461/
mt-DNA is J1c2. Kardzhali, Momchilgrad. -> https://www.yfull.com/mtree/J1c2

23andme

https://i.ibb.co/tcFM2ZH/23andme.png

Gedmatch

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 26.5
2 North_European 24.61
3 Atlantic_Med 18.9
4 Gedrosia 9.43
5 Southwest_Asian 8.59
6 Siberian 5.74
7 East_Asian 3.27
8 South_Asian 1.51
9 Northwest_African 1.37
10 East_African 0.08

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Bulgarian (Dodecad) 14.05
2 Romanians (Behar) 15.04
3 Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) 15.27
4 O_Italian (Dodecad) 16.05
5 Greek (Dodecad) 16.21
6 C_Italian (Dodecad) 19.04
7 Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) 19.09
8 Ashkenazi (Dodecad) 19.61
9 S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) 19.96
10 Sicilian (Dodecad) 20.26
11 Tuscan (HGDP) 20.57
12 TSI30 (Metspalu) 20.97
13 Nogais (Yunusbayev) 21.58
14 N_Italian (Dodecad) 22.66
15 Turkish (Dodecad) 23.54
16 Sephardic_Jews (Behar) 23.96
17 Turks (Behar) 24.78
18 Morocco_Jews (Behar) 25.27
19 North_Italian (HGDP) 25.39
20 Kumyks (Yunusbayev) 26.06

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 64.3% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 35.7% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) @ 5.59
2 65.2% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 34.8% Chuvashs (Behar) @ 5.61
3 60.6% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) + 39.4% Chuvashs (Behar) @ 5.62
4 64.8% Romanians (Behar) + 35.2% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) @ 5.9
5 62.7% Turks (Behar) + 37.3% Norwegian (Dodecad) @ 5.92
6 66.7% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 33.3% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) @ 5.95
7 62.5% Turks (Behar) + 37.5% Swedish (Dodecad) @ 6.11
8 65% Sicilian (Dodecad) + 35% Chuvashs (Behar) @ 6.25
9 63.9% Turkish (Dodecad) + 36.1% Swedish (Dodecad) @ 6.29
10 64% Turkish (Dodecad) + 36% Norwegian (Dodecad) @ 6.3
11 55.9% Turks (Behar) + 44.1% German (Dodecad) @ 6.59
12 66.7% Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) + 33.3% Chuvashs (Behar) @ 6.83
13 77% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 23% Hazara (HGDP) @ 7
14 59.5% Morocco_Jews (Behar) + 40.5% Chuvashs (Behar) @ 7.01
15 72.2% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 27.8% Uzbeks (Behar) @ 7.09
16 58.9% Turks (Behar) + 41.1% Dutch (Dodecad) @ 7.1
17 57.3% Turkish (Dodecad) + 42.7% German (Dodecad) @ 7.12
18 66.1% Ashkenazi (Dodecad) + 33.9% Chuvashs (Behar) @ 7.13
19 52% Turks (Behar) + 48% Hungarians (Behar) @ 7.26
20 67.9% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 32.1% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) @ 7.26


Updated oracle

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Turk_Bulgaria @ 6,236118
2 Turk_Greece @ 7,255504
3 Crimean_Tatar_Mountain @ 8,666997
4 Turk_Macedonia @ 9,775066
5 R,Moldova_Gagauz @ 10,76845
6 Gagauz @ 11,335766
7 Crimean_Tatar_Coast @ 12,03107
8 R,Moldova_South @ 12,494851
9 Pomak @ 13,537575
10 Albanian_Kosovo @ 13,538017
11 Turk_Northwest @ 14,04597
12 Albanian_North @ 14,315686
13 Italy_Apulia @ 14,423912
14 Bulgarian @ 14,8765
15 Macedonian @ 15,137253
16 Italy_Lazio @ 15,691836
17 Romanians @ 15,943854
18 Bulgarians @ 16,30238
19 Italy_Abruzzo @ 16,424004
20 Montenegrin @ 16,874701
21 Turk_Southwest @ 16,948203
22 Turk_West_BlackSea @ 16,99547
23 Italy_Marche @ 17,118306
24 Greek @ 17,417625
25 Italy_Sicily @ 17,483078
26 MD_Jewish @ 17,680067
27 Italy_Romagna @ 17,862359
28 Ashkenazi_Jews @ 18,43724
29 Italy_Campania @ 18,621956
30 Yoruk @ 18,886269
335 iterations.

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 HUN_Szekely+Turk_South @ 2,994587
2 HUN_Szekely+Turk_Southwest @ 3,069892
3 Serb+Yoruk @ 3,080173
4 HUN_Szekely+Turk_Anatolia @ 3,344154
5 HUN_Szekely+Turk_Central_West @ 3,547112
6 Montenegrin+Yoruk @ 3,609072
7 HUN_Szekely+Yoruk @ 3,633721
8 Serb+Turk_Southwest @ 3,75105
9 HUN_Szekely+Turk_Northwest @ 3,761948
10 Bosnian+Yoruk @ 3,799755
11 HUN_Szekely+Turk_Central_Black_Sea @ 3,842591
12 HUN_Szekely+Turk_West_BlackSea @ 3,917497
13 Serb+Turk_Northwest @ 4,065529
14 Montenegrin+Turk_Northwest @ 4,083011
15 Pomak+Turk_Northwest @ 4,193435
16 Bosnian+Turk_South @ 4,214842
17 Bosnian+Turk_Southwest @ 4,229749
18 Serb+Turk_South @ 4,233684
19 Croat+Yoruk @ 4,25815
20 Croat+Turk_South @ 4,294187
21 Macedonian+Turk_Northwest @ 4,37599
22 Macedonian+Yoruk @ 4,390878
23 Montenegrin+Turk_Southwest @ 4,396226
24 HUN_Szekely+Turk_Central_East @ 4,437454
25 HUN_Szekely+Turk_Southeast @ 4,571502
26 R,Moldova_South+Turk_Northwest @ 4,582211
27 Crimean_Tatar_Mountain+Turk_Bulgaria @ 4,585178
28 Bosnian+Turk_Anatolia @ 4,604346
29 Serb+Turk_Anatolia @ 4,609667
30 Pomak+Yoruk @ 4,630306
56280 iterations.

Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Turk_Northwest +25% Italy_Campania +25% Veps @ 1,379283
2 50% Italy_Apulia +25% Komi +25% Yoruk @ 1,496848
3 50% Turk_Northwest +25% Italy_Sicily +25% Veps @ 1,531674
4 50% Turk_Southwest +25% Italy_Marche +25% Veps @ 1,57059
5 50% Turk_Northwest +25% Italy_Calabria +25% Veps @ 1,590413
6 50% Turk_Southwest +25% Ashkenazi_Jews +25% Finnish_West @ 1,628895
7 50% Turk_Southwest +25% Italy_Lazio +25% Veps @ 1,651323
8 50% Turk_Southwest +25% Italy_Calabria +25% Finnish_East @ 1,67452
9 50% Turk_Southwest +25% Italy_Calabria +25% Finnish_West @ 1,683746
10 50% Turk_Northwest +25% Ashkenazi_Jews +25% Veps @ 1,693657
11 50% Turk_West_BlackSea +25% Italy_Lazio +25% Komi @ 1,719622
12 50% Turk_Southwest +25% Finnish_West +25% MD_Jewish @ 1,72086
13 50% Turk_Northwest +25% Italy_Abruzzo +25% Veps @ 1,725461
14 50% Turk_South +25% Italy_Liguria +25% Veps @ 1,765984
15 50% Turk_West_BlackSea +25% Italy_Marche +25% Komi @ 1,781487
16 50% Turk_Southwest +25% Italy_Campania +25% Finnish_East @ 1,791036
17 50% Turk_West_BlackSea +25% Italy_Romagna +25% Komi @ 1,796324
18 50% Turk_Southwest +25% Italy_Abruzzo +25% Veps @ 1,805775
19 50% Turk_South +25% Italy_Tuscany +25% Veps @ 1,830213
20 50% Turk_Southwest +25% Italy_Campania +25% Karelian @ 1,833792
21 50% Turk_Southwest +25% Italy_Calabria +25% Karelian @ 1,840054
22 50% Gagauz +25% Bashkir +25% Nusayri_Turkey @ 1,849192
23 50% Turk_South +25% Italy_Romagna +25% Veps @ 1,860869
24 50% Turk_Northwest +25% Veps +25% MD_Jewish @ 1,862467
25 50% Turk_Northwest +25% Sephardic_Jews +25% Karelian @ 1,877716
26 50% Turk_Southwest +25% Italy_Sicily +25% Finnish_West @ 1,907323
27 50% Turk_Southwest +25% Greek_Crete +25% Finnish_West @ 1,914092
28 50% Italy_Apulia +25% Komi +25% Turk_Southwest @ 1,917226
29 50% Turk_Anatolia +25% Italy_Romagna +25% Veps @ 1,934461
30 50% Turk_Northwest +25% Sephardic_Jews +25% Finnish_East @ 1,935573
10293953 iterations.

Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Cypriots+Italy_Apulia+Turkmen_Uzbekistan+Finnish_W est @ 1,293183
2 Ashkenazi_Jews+Greek_Cappadocia+Turkmen_Uzbekistan +Finnish_West @ 1,329106
3 Cypriots+Italy_Abruzzo+Turkmen_Uzbekistan+Karelian @ 1,334389
4 Komi+Sephardic_Jews+Turk_Bulgaria+Turk_Southwest @ 1,344898
5 Italy_Campania+Turk_Northwest+Turk_Northwest+Veps @ 1,379283
6 Italy_Calabria+Komi+Turk_Greece+Turk_South @ 1,390112
7 Greek_Cappadocia+Turkmen_Uzbekistan+Finnish_West+M D_Jewish @ 1,409923
8 Komi+Sephardic_Jews+Turk_Anatolia+Turk_Bulgaria @ 1,42529
9 Ashkenazi_Jews+Turk_Southwest+Yoruk+Finnish_West @ 1,429297
10 Ashkenazi_Jews+Turk_Anatolia+Yoruk+Finnish_West @ 1,430866
11 Ashkenazi_Jews+Turk_Central_West+Yoruk+Finnish_Wes t @ 1,456088
12 Komi+Sephardic_Jews+Turk_Bulgaria+Turk_Central_Wes t @ 1,467061
13 Komi+Sephardic_Jews+Turk_Bulgaria+Turk_South @ 1,468611
14 Ashkenazi_Jews+Komi+Turk_Greece+Turk_South @ 1,482216
15 Italy_Marche+Turk_Northwest+Turk_South+Veps @ 1,483753
16 Italy_Calabria+Turk_Southwest+Yoruk+Finnish_West @ 1,496287
17 Albanian_North+Ashkenazi_Jews+Azerbaijani+Mari @ 1,496714
18 Italy_Apulia+Italy_Apulia+Komi+Yoruk @ 1,496848
19 Bashkir+Bosnian+Georgia_Jews+Italy_Romagna @ 1,497863
20 Ashkenazi_Jews+Greek+Komi+Turkmen_Iran @ 1,515613
21 Ashkenazi_Jews+Turk_South+Yoruk+Finnish_West @ 1,527742
22 Italy_Sicily+Turk_Northwest+Turk_Northwest+Veps @ 1,531674
23 Cypriots+Italy_Abruzzo+Turkmen_Uzbekistan+Finnish_ East @ 1,535094
24 Ashkenazi_Jews+Turk_West_BlackSea+Yoruk+Finnish_We st @ 1,56073
25 Italy_Marche+Turk_Central_West+Turk_Southwest+Veps @ 1,563481
26 Italy_Marche+Turk_South+Turk_Southwest+Veps @ 1,569591
27 Italy_Marche+Turk_Southwest+Turk_Southwest+Veps @ 1,57059
28 Italy_Lazio+Turk_Central_West+Turk_Southwest+Veps @ 1,572589
29 Komi+Sephardic_Jews+Turk_Bulgaria+Turk_West_BlackS ea @ 1,576749
30 Cypriots+Italy_Campania+Turkmen_Uzbekistan+Karelia n @ 1,576824
31 Bashkir+Croat+Georgia_Jews+Italy_Lazio @ 1,578832
32 Albanian_Kosovo+Italy_Apulia+Mari+Turk_Southeast @ 1,57886
33 Bavarian_German+Druze+Komi+Yoruk @ 1,58126
34 Cypriots+Italy_Campania+Turkmen_Uzbekistan+Finnish _East @ 1,582229
35 Italy_Campania+Turk_South+Yoruk+Finnish_West @ 1,585131
36 Italy_Campania+Turk_Northwest+Turk_Southwest+Veps @ 1,587243
37 Italy_Calabria+Turk_Northwest+Turk_Northwest+Veps @ 1,590413
38 Italy_Marche+Turk_Anatolia+Turk_Southwest+Veps @ 1,590519
39 Cypriots+Italy_Tuscany+Turkmen_Uzbekistan+Mordovia n @ 1,591827
40 Cypriots+Italy_Lazio+Turkmen_Uzbekistan+Veps @ 1,596184
41 Italy_Abruzzo+Turk_Northwest+Turk_Southwest+Veps @ 1,596581
42 Bashkir+Croat+Georgia_Jews+Italy_Marche @ 1,603123
43 Turk_Anatolia+Yoruk+Finnish_West+MD_Jewish @ 1,604442
44 Turk_Southwest+Yoruk+Finnish_West+MD_Jewish @ 1,606531
45 Turk_Central_West+Yoruk+Finnish_West+MD_Jewish @ 1,606819
46 Italy_Marche+Turk_Central_West+Turk_Northwest+Veps @ 1,608867
47 Bashkir+Georgia_Jews+Italy_FriuliVG+Pomak @ 1,61075
48 Italy_Calabria+Komi+Turk_Bulgaria+Turk_South @ 1,611523
49 Bashkir+Iranian_Jews+Italy_FriuliVG+Romanians @ 1,613981
50 Assyrian+Bashkir+Italy_FriuliVG+Romanians @ 1,616613
51 Greek_Crete+Komi+Turk_Greece+Yoruk @ 1,621409
52 Albanian_North+Italy_Apulia+Mari+Turk_Southeast @ 1,622629
53 Greek+Nusayri_Turkey+Turkmen_Uzbekistan+Finnish_We st @ 1,622632
54 Albanian_North+Azerbaijani+Mari+MD_Jewish @ 1,62497
55 Italy_Marche+Turk_Anatolia+Turk_Northwest+Veps @ 1,628473
56 Ashkenazi_Jews+Turk_Southwest+Turk_Southwest+Finni sh_West @ 1,628895
57 Ashkenazi_Jews+Gagauz+Turk_Central_West+Udmurt @ 1,629884
58 Italy_FriuliVG+Komi+Nusayri_Turkey+Yoruk @ 1,63212
59 Italy_Calabria+Turk_West_BlackSea+Yoruk+Finnish_We st @ 1,633266
60 Italy_Lazio+Turk_Anatolia+Turk_Southwest+Veps @ 1,633483
81138076 iterations.


Gaussian method.
Noise dispersion set to 0,421402

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Turk_Bulgaria @ 4,616083
2 Crimean_Tatar_Mountain @ 5,543594
3 Turk_Greece @ 6,914673
4 Turk_Northwest @ 8,186246
5 Crimean_Tatar_Coast @ 8,310079
6 Turk_West_BlackSea @ 8,84677
7 Turk_Southwest @ 9,620332
8 HUN_Szekely @ 9,744498
9 Turk_Central_West @ 10,516018
10 Turk_Anatolia @ 10,691
11 Yoruk @ 10,87166
12 R,Moldova_Gagauz @ 10,923781
13 Crimean_Tatar_Steppe @ 11,559291
14 R,Moldova_South @ 11,621142
15 Qumuq @ 11,675156
16 Turk_South @ 11,695097
17 Turk_Central_Black_Sea @ 12,122635
18 Turk_Central_East @ 12,12772
19 Turk_Macedonia @ 12,719938
20 Gagauz @ 12,881814
21 Yagnobi @ 13,116165
22 Pomak @ 13,544097
23 Turk_Southeast @ 13,621723
24 Karachay @ 13,677508
25 Serb @ 13,709929
26 Ashkenazi_Jews @ 13,945305
27 Azerbaijani @ 14,014896
28 Balkar @ 14,185531
29 Azerbaijani_Turkey @ 14,206034
30 Montenegrin @ 14,320608
335 iterations.

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 Montenegrin+Yoruk @ 3,270884
2 Bosnian+Yoruk @ 3,474445
3 Serb+Yoruk @ 3,489812
4 Romanians+Yoruk @ 3,504688
5 Bulgarians+Yoruk @ 3,625597
6 Bulgarian+Yoruk @ 3,664217
7 Macedonian+Yoruk @ 3,699134
8 Montenegrin+Turk_Northwest @ 3,775469
9 Cypriots+Udmurt @ 3,816985
10 Cypriots+Komi @ 3,829029
11 Serb+Turk_Northwest @ 3,860207
12 Hungarians+Yoruk @ 3,868906
13 Croat+Yoruk @ 3,880208
14 Pomak+Yoruk @ 3,883285
15 Serb+Turk_Southwest @ 3,905479
16 Montenegrin+Turk_Southwest @ 3,922484
17 Bosnian+Turk_Southwest @ 3,942568
18 Bosnian+Turk_Central_Black_Sea @ 3,944097
19 HUN_Szekely+Turk_Central_Black_Sea @ 3,96686
20 Bosnian+Turk_Northwest @ 3,97077
21 HUN_Szekely+Turk_West_BlackSea @ 3,976425
22 Macedonian+Turk_Northwest @ 3,986625
23 Pomak+Turk_Northwest @ 4,001955
24 Serb+Turk_Central_Black_Sea @ 4,005834
25 Greek_Cappadocia+Komi @ 4,013694
26 HUN_Szekely+Turk_Anatolia @ 4,024856
27 HUN_Szekely+Turk_Central_West @ 4,042093
28 Romanians+Turk_Northwest @ 4,056839
29 Bulgarian+Turk_Northwest @ 4,058192
30 HUN_Szekely+Turk_Southwest @ 4,109846
56280 iterations.

Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Greek +25% Udmurt +25% Yoruk @ 1,813285
2 50% Greek +25% Komi +25% Yoruk @ 2,023129
3 50% Crimean_Tatar_Coast +25% Italy_Abruzzo +25% Udmurt @ 2,425198
4 50% Greek +25% Turk_Central_West +25% Udmurt @ 2,489801
5 50% Albanian_North +25% Azerbaijan_Jews +25% Mari @ 2,586205
6 50% Crimean_Tatar_Coast +25% Yoruk +25% Finnish_West @ 2,589316
7 50% Crimean_Tatar_Coast +25% Italy_Lazio +25% Udmurt @ 2,589609
8 50% Greek +25% Turk_Anatolia +25% Udmurt @ 2,640968
9 50% Greek +25% Turk_Central_East +25% Udmurt @ 2,654861
10 50% Yoruk +25% Greek +25% Finnish_West @ 2,669681
11 50% Greek +25% Turk_West_BlackSea +25% Udmurt @ 2,682565
12 50% Albanian_North +25% Mari +25% Udi_Azerbaijan @ 2,696034
13 50% Albanian_Kosovo +25% Mari +25% Udi_Azerbaijan @ 2,704168
14 50% Greek +25% Turk_Southwest +25% Udmurt @ 2,713714
15 50% Crimean_Tatar_Coast +25% Italy_Abruzzo +25% Mari @ 2,730046
16 50% Albanian_North +25% Armenian_West +25% Mari @ 2,754722
17 50% Greek +25% Turk_South +25% Udmurt @ 2,755073
18 50% Crimean_Tatar_Coast +25% Italy_Lazio +25% Mari @ 2,761784
19 50% Albanian_North +25% Assyrian +25% Mari @ 2,790435
20 50% Crimean_Tatar_Coast +25% Yoruk +25% Veps @ 2,804265
21 50% Albanian_Kosovo +25% Armenian_West +25% Mari @ 2,805863
22 50% Albanian_North +25% Mari +25% Zaza @ 2,822938
23 50% Albanian_Kosovo +25% Azerbaijan_Jews +25% Mari @ 2,824578
24 50% Greek +25% Turk_Northwest +25% Udmurt @ 2,827024
25 50% Greek +25% Yoruk +25% Veps @ 2,841966
26 50% Greek +25% Turk_Central_Black_Sea +25% Udmurt @ 2,851289
27 50% Crimean_Tatar_Coast +25% Greek_Crete +25% Udmurt @ 2,852771
28 50% Crimean_Tatar_Coast +25% Italy_Campania +25% Udmurt @ 2,886331
29 50% Crimean_Tatar_Coast +25% Italy_Marche +25% Udmurt @ 2,890271
30 50% Greek_Cappadocia +25% Bosnian +25% Mari @ 2,89883
17950746 iterations.

Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Greek_Cappadocia+Italy_FriuliVG+Komi+Yoruk @ 1,621502
2 Greek+Greek+Udmurt+Yoruk @ 1,813285
3 Albanian_North+Greek_Cappadocia+Komi+Yoruk @ 1,816769
4 Greek_Cappadocia+Italy_Trentino+Komi+Yoruk @ 1,826626
5 Greek_Cappadocia+Komi+Montenegrin+Yoruk @ 1,861943
6 Greek_Cappadocia+Komi+Romanians+Yoruk @ 1,886189
7 Cypriots+Komi+Montenegrin+Yoruk @ 1,904832
8 Albanian_Kosovo+Greek_Cappadocia+Komi+Yoruk @ 1,914637
9 Greek_Cappadocia+Komi+Swiss_Italian+Yoruk @ 1,940027
10 Cypriots+Italy_FriuliVG+Komi+Yoruk @ 1,942283
11 Bulgarian+Greek_Cappadocia+Komi+Yoruk @ 1,957996
12 Bulgarians+Greek_Cappadocia+Komi+Yoruk @ 1,975173
13 Crimean_Tatar_Coast+Greek+Komi+Yoruk @ 1,984809
14 Cypriots+Komi+Romanians+Yoruk @ 1,987248
15 Greek_Cappadocia+Italy_FriuliVG+Yoruk+Veps @ 2,008358
16 Greek+Greek+Komi+Yoruk @ 2,023129
17 Cypriots+Qumuq+Swiss_Italian+Udmurt @ 2,037584
18 Greek_Cappadocia+Italy_Lombardy+Komi+Yoruk @ 2,037704
19 Cypriots+Italy_Trentino+Komi+Yoruk @ 2,040354
20 Greek_Cappadocia+Komi+Macedonian+Yoruk @ 2,045289
21 Cypriots+Komi+Macedonian+Yoruk @ 2,074379
22 Albanian_Kosovo+Greek_Cappadocia+Yoruk+Veps @ 2,084074
23 Crimean_Tatar_Coast+Greek_Cappadocia+Yoruk+Finnish _West @ 2,085158
24 Albanian_North+Greek_Cappadocia+Yoruk+Veps @ 2,093442
25 Greek_Cappadocia+Romanians+Yoruk+Veps @ 2,095598
26 Bulgarian+Cypriots+Komi+Yoruk @ 2,151252
27 Cypriots+Italy_Trentino+Qumuq+Udmurt @ 2,156869
28 Cypriots+Italy_Lombardy+Qumuq+Udmurt @ 2,160658
29 Cypriots+Italy_FriuliVG+Qumuq+Udmurt @ 2,161297
30 Bavarian_German+Cypriots+Komi+Yoruk @ 2,190668
31 Albanian_North+Cypriots+Komi+Yoruk @ 2,191555
32 Bosnian+Cypriots+Komi+Yoruk @ 2,192045
33 Greek_Cappadocia+Italy_Veneto+Komi+Yoruk @ 2,197818
34 Greek_Pontus+Italy_Trentino+Komi+Yoruk @ 2,206568
35 Greek_Cappadocia+Montenegrin+Yoruk+Veps @ 2,20682
36 Cypriots+Mari+Qumuq+Swiss_Italian @ 2,208212
37 Azerbaijan_Jews+Italy_Trentino+Yoruk+Veps @ 2,217846
38 Bulgarian+Greek_Cappadocia+Yoruk+Veps @ 2,226291
39 Gagauz+Greek_Cappadocia+Komi+Yoruk @ 2,228346
40 Albanian_Kosovo+Cypriots+Komi+Yoruk @ 2,228883
41 Cypriots+Komi+Serb+Yoruk @ 2,231094
42 Greek_Pontus+Komi+Swiss_Italian+Yoruk @ 2,232392
43 Gagauz+Greek_Cappadocia+Yoruk+Veps @ 2,236133
44 Azerbaijan_Jews+Italy_Lazio+Mari+Romanians @ 2,242612
45 Greek_Cappadocia+Komi+Pomak+Yoruk @ 2,244009
46 Greek_Pontus+Italy_FriuliVG+Komi+Yoruk @ 2,250657
47 Azerbaijan_Jews+Swiss_Italian+Yoruk+Veps @ 2,253904
48 Azerbaijan_Jews+France_Corsica+Mari+Romanians @ 2,258749
49 Greek_Cappadocia+Italy_Trentino+Yoruk+Veps @ 2,269714
50 Cypriots+Montenegrin+Udmurt+Yoruk @ 2,270693
51 Armenian_West+Italy_Lazio+Mari+Romanians @ 2,271884
52 Cypriots+Italy_Trentino+Udmurt+Yoruk @ 2,272021
53 Greek_Cappadocia+Italy_Liguria+Komi+Yoruk @ 2,272479
54 Cypriots+Komi+Swiss_Italian+Yoruk @ 2,273986
55 Armenian_West+Italy_Trentino+Komi+Yoruk @ 2,274098
56 Greek_Cappadocia+Italy_Tuscany+Komi+Yoruk @ 2,283733
57 Bulgarians+Cypriots+Komi+Yoruk @ 2,288612
58 Greek_Cappadocia+Italy_Lombardy+Yoruk+Veps @ 2,289919
59 Greek_Cappadocia+Macedonian+Yoruk+Veps @ 2,293585
60 Cypriots+Italy_Lombardy+Mari+Qumuq @ 2,293601
472872024 iterations.





PuntDNAL K15 oracles are striking too.

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 66.7% Montenegrin + 33.3% Turkmen @ 3.28
2 76.7% Greek_Thessaly + 23.3% Uzbek @ 3.55
3 67.1% Bulgarian + 32.9% Turkmen @ 3.6
4 75.1% Greek_Central + 24.9% Bashkir @ 3.63
5 81% Greek_Thessaly + 19% Hazara @ 3.88
6 80.3% Greek_Thessaly + 19.7% Uyghur @ 3.96
7 65.8% Romanian + 34.2% Turkmen @ 4
8 65.1% Sephardic_Jew + 34.9% Chuvash @ 4.19
9 64.9% Italian + 35.1% Turkmen @ 4.28
10 65.6% Ashkenazy_Jew + 34.4% Bashkir @ 4.42
11 66.6% Macedonian + 33.4% Turkmen @ 4.49
12 63% Sicilian + 37% Bashkir @ 4.5
13 63.7% Montenegrin + 36.3% Nogai @ 4.52
14 73.2% Albanian + 26.8% Uzbek @ 4.71
15 54.1% Spaniard + 45.9% Turkmen @ 4.76
16 69.7% Ashkenazy_Jew + 30.3% Chuvash @ 4.76
17 77.6% Greek_Central + 22.4% Uzbek @ 4.81
18 76.3% Greek_Thessaly + 23.7% Bashkir @ 4.85
19 64.2% Bulgarian + 35.8% Nogai @ 4.87
20 67.2% Sicilian + 32.8% Chuvash @ 4.87

[Bender1999]

Why there are not any Tatar results of Eskisehir? On maps which shows east eurasian admix this province doesn’t show any special feature although in my knowledge there are a lot of Tatars?

[Kaspias]

Why there are not any Tatar results of Eskisehir? On maps which shows east eurasian admix this province doesn’t show any special feature although in my knowledge there are a lot of Tatars?

There are actually, there was a Nogai from Bursa who has 45% East Eurasian. Only natives are being added to these maps so Tatars excluded most of time.

[Bender1999]

There are actually, there was a Nogai from Bursa who has 45% East Eurasian. Only natives are being added to these maps so Tatars excluded most of time.

Nogai with 45% mongoloid? That is actually very big amount of east eurasian even for Nogai.
Imo it is very important to tell sth about the history of your family regarding genetics but aren’t they natives already. We once had here a result with obviously Tatar background.

[Kaspias]

Nogay. Crimea -> Dobruja -> Anatolia

y-DNA: https://www.yfull.com/tree/R-M478/

https://i.ibb.co/VNQxbvf/nogay.jpg


Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Karakalpak @ 8,419448
2 Uzbek @ 13,046761
3 Crimean_Tatar_Steppe @ 13,104901
4 Kazakh @ 15,274515
5 Uygur @ 16,194346
6 Bashkir @ 16,72267
7 Turkmen_Uzbekistan @ 18,279725
8 Hazara @ 19,084544
9 Kyrgyz @ 19,533409
10 Kyrgyz_Bishkek @ 20,757812
11 Nogais @ 26,119795
12 Uzbeks @ 28,715708
13 Tajik_Tajikistan @ 29,151063
14 Yoruk @ 29,165221
15 Turkmen_Iran @ 29,720728
16 Altai @ 30,252289
17 Turk_Northwest @ 31,103723
18 Crimean_Tatar_Mountain @ 32,387149
19 Turkmens @ 32,451239
20 Tajiks @ 32,485532
21 Turk_Southwest @ 32,621374
22 Rus_Pinega @ 32,700214
23 Mari @ 33,905332
24 Mongol @ 33,912591
25 Turk_Bulgaria @ 34,065894
26 Udmurt @ 34,777655
27 Pamiri_Shughnan @ 34,837973
28 Yagnobi @ 34,956702
29 Turk_West_BlackSea @ 34,993693
30 Pamiri_Rushan @ 35,240101
335 iterations.

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 Crimean_Tatar_Steppe+Karakalpak @ 4,770161
2 Crimean_Tatar_Steppe+Kazakh @ 4,77375
3 Crimean_Tatar_Steppe+Kyrgyz @ 5,560363
4 Crimean_Tatar_Steppe+Kyrgyz_Bishkek @ 6,215821
5 Karakalpak+Uzbek @ 7,367021
6 Crimean_Tatar_Steppe+Uygur @ 7,863796
7 Kyrgyz_Bishkek+Nogais @ 7,885111
8 Kazakh+Uzbek @ 7,994195
9 Mongol+Turk_Bulgaria @ 8,114817
10 Kazakh+Nogais @ 8,123219
11 Kyrgyz+Nogais @ 8,271884
12 Karakalpak+Karakalpak @ 8,419448
13 Crimean_Tatar_Mountain+Kyrgyz_Bishkek @ 8,423815
14 Crimean_Tatar_Steppe+Hazara @ 8,720328
15 Kyrgyz_Bishkek+Turk_Bulgaria @ 8,741879
16 Crimean_Tatar_Mountain+Kyrgyz @ 8,911536
17 Kazakh+Turkmen_Uzbekistan @ 8,919221
18 Kyrgyz+Turk_Bulgaria @ 8,953308
19 Bashkir+Uygur @ 8,960296
20 Karakalpak+Turkmen_Uzbekistan @ 9,211075
21 Crimean_Tatar_Mountain+Mongol @ 9,220672
22 Bashkir+Karakalpak @ 9,339194
23 Altai+Crimean_Tatar_Mountain @ 9,344107
24 Mongol+R,Moldova_Gagauz @ 9,377959
25 Bulgarian+Mongol @ 9,592672
26 Gagauz+Mongol @ 9,694918
27 Mongol+Pomak @ 9,695233
28 Mongol+Turk_Greece @ 9,736249
29 Mongol+Romanians @ 9,819193
30 Altai+Turk_Bulgaria @ 9,833959
56280 iterations.

Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Kazakh +25% Crimean_Tatar_Steppe +25% Nogais @ 3,208146
2 50% Bashkir +25% Hezhen +25% Ossetian @ 3,793423
3 50% Bashkir +25% Circassian +25% Hezhen @ 3,850046
4 50% Bashkir +25% Mongola +25% Ossetian @ 3,927515
5 50% Kyrgyz +25% Crimean_Tatar_Steppe +25% Nogais @ 3,946563
6 50% Kyrgyz_Bishkek +25% Bashkir +25% Karachay @ 3,960473
7 50% Kyrgyz_Bishkek +25% Balkar +25% Bashkir @ 4,036909
8 50% Kyrgyz_Bishkek +25% Crimean_Tatar_Steppe +25% Nogais @ 4,038591
9 50% Kyrgyz +25% Bashkir +25% Crimean_Tatar_Mountain @ 4,041452
10 50% Bashkir +25% Karachay +25% Mongola @ 4,069752
11 50% Bashkir +25% Circassian +25% Mongola @ 4,095293
12 50% Bashkir +25% Hezhen +25% Karachay @ 4,101446
13 50% Karakalpak +25% Kyrgyz +25% Turk_Bulgaria @ 4,110449
14 50% Karakalpak +25% Crimean_Tatar_Mountain +25% Kazakh @ 4,115837
15 50% Kazakh +25% Bashkir +25% Karachay @ 4,141758
16 50% Bashkir +25% Hezhen +25% Ingush @ 4,155843
17 50% Karakalpak +25% Bulgarian +25% Kyrgyz @ 4,15737
18 50% Karakalpak +25% Kazakh +25% Turk_Bulgaria @ 4,188157
19 50% Kyrgyz +25% Bashkir +25% Karachay @ 4,195193
20 50% Karakalpak +25% Karakalpak +25% Nogais @ 4,198575
21 50% Karakalpak +25% Kyrgyz_Bishkek +25% Turk_Bulgaria @ 4,23804
22 50% Bashkir +25% Ossetian +25% Xibo @ 4,23886
23 50% Bashkir +25% Balkar +25% Hezhen @ 4,249611
24 50% Crimean_Tatar_Steppe +25% Karakalpak +25% Kyrgyz @ 4,251028
25 50% Kyrgyz +25% Bulgarians +25% Uzbek @ 4,254552
26 50% Bashkir +25% Circassian +25% Daur @ 4,270433
27 50% Bashkir +25% Daur +25% Ossetian @ 4,283566
28 50% Karakalpak +25% Bulgarian +25% Kyrgyz_Bishkek @ 4,293773
29 50% Bashkir +25% Balkar +25% Mongola @ 4,303427
30 50% Kyrgyz_Bishkek +25% Bashkir +25% Crimean_Tatar_Mountain @ 4,306929
10803782 iterations.

Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Avar_Dagestan+Ket+Korean+Turk_Bulgaria @ 3,033894
2 Dargin+Ket+Korean+Turk_Bulgaria @ 3,133439
3 Avar_Dagestan+Ket+Korean+R,Moldova_Gagauz @ 3,2054
4 Crimean_Tatar_Steppe+Kazakh+Kazakh+Nogais @ 3,208146
5 Dargin+Ket+Korean+R,Moldova_Gagauz @ 3,261588
6 Ket+Korean+Lak+R,Moldova_Gagauz @ 3,275587
7 Avar+Ket+Korean+Turk_Bulgaria @ 3,27591
8 Ket+Korean+Lak+Turk_Bulgaria @ 3,289879
9 Hazara+Hungarians+Nogais+Oroqen @ 3,296091
10 Avar+Ket+Korean+R,Moldova_Gagauz @ 3,309217
11 Crimean_Tatar_Steppe+Kazakh+Kyrgyz_Bishkek+Nogais @ 3,318868
12 HUN_Szekely+Ingush+Ket+Korean @ 3,348606
13 Hazara+Nogais+Oroqen+Slovak @ 3,367688
14 Crimean_Tatar_Steppe+Kazakh+Kyrgyz+Nogais @ 3,370286
15 Crimean_Tatar_Steppe+Karakalpak+Kyrgyz_Bishkek+Nog ais @ 3,37492
16 HUN_Szekely+Ket+Korean+Kumyks @ 3,377004
17 Ket+Korean+Tabasaran+Turk_Bulgaria @ 3,392301
18 Avar_Dagestan+Korean+Selkup+Turk_Bulgaria @ 3,430671
19 HUN_Szekely+Nogais+Oroqen+Uygur @ 3,43287
20 Dargin+Gagauz+Ket+Korean @ 3,437605
21 Avar_Dagestan+Gagauz+Ket+Korean @ 3,442478
22 Croat+Nogais+Oroqen+Uygur @ 3,458789
23 Ket+Korean+R,Moldova_Gagauz+Tabasaran @ 3,464015
24 Gagauz+Ket+Korean+Lak @ 3,474942
25 Bosnian+Nogais+Oroqen+Uygur @ 3,481901
26 Nogais+Oroqen+Slovenian+Uygur @ 3,482223
27 Kumyks+Kyrgyz+Oroqen+Slovak @ 3,49168
28 Karachay+Komi+Oroqen+Uygur @ 3,492521
29 Dargin+Ket+Korean+Turk_Greece @ 3,505
30 Chechen+HUN_Szekely+Ket+Korean @ 3,507987
31 Avar+Gagauz+Ket+Korean @ 3,508751
32 Hungarians+Nogais+Oroqen+Uygur @ 3,510524
33 Hezhen+Mari+Nogais+Turkmen_Uzbekistan @ 3,522946
34 HUN_Szekely+Kyrgyz+Lak+Oroqen @ 3,524091
35 HUN_Szekely+Kyrgyz_Bishkek+Lak+Oroqen @ 3,525926
36 Hazara+Nogais+Oroqen+Slovenian @ 3,538175
37 Circassian+HUN_Szekely+Ket+Korean @ 3,548158
38 Croat+Hazara+Nogais+Oroqen @ 3,553901
39 Avar_Dagestan+Ket+Korean+R,Moldova_South @ 3,554731
40 Ket+Korean+Lak+R,Moldova_South @ 3,560305
41 Nogais+Oroqen+Slovak+Uygur @ 3,565633
42 Avar+Ket+Korean+Romanians @ 3,571376
43 Kumyks+Kyrgyz_Bishkek+Oroqen+Slovak @ 3,576661
44 Avar_Dagestan+Ket+Korean+Romanians @ 3,578754
45 Avar_Dagestan+Ket+Korean+Turk_Greece @ 3,583084
46 Dargin+Ket+Korean+R,Moldova_South @ 3,58749
47 Bosnian+Kyrgyz_Bishkek+Lak+Oroqen @ 3,595213
48 Hazara+Nogais+Oroqen+Ukrainian @ 3,598195
49 Kumyks+Kyrgyz+Oroqen+Sorb_Lusatia @ 3,605732
50 HUN_Szekely+Ket+Korean+Ossetian @ 3,607712
51 Dargin+Ket+Korean+Romanians @ 3,610823
52 Ket+Korean+Lak+Turk_Greece @ 3,611244
53 Avar+Ket+Korean+R,Moldova_South @ 3,611348
54 Dargin+Ket+Korean+Turk_Macedonia @ 3,615132
55 Avar_Dagestan+Ket+Korean+Pomak @ 3,615161
56 Ket+Korean+Lezgin+Romanians @ 3,617495
57 Crimean_Tatar_Steppe+Karakalpak+Kyrgyz+Nogais @ 3,620179
58 Bosnian+Hazara+Nogais+Oroqen @ 3,625211
59 Bosnian+Kyrgyz+Lak+Oroqen @ 3,640308
60 Korean+Qumuq+Selkup+Turk_Bulgaria @ 3,646359
86504404 iterations.

[Dr_Maul]

Nogai with 45% mongoloid? That is actually very big amount of east eurasian even for Nogai.
Imo it is very important to tell sth about the history of your family regarding genetics but aren’t they natives already. We once had here a result with obviously Tatar background.

One type of Nogai is over 40% Mongoloid another is around 25%, sometimes as low as 20. I do not know how to tell them apart (other from genetics) but obviously there are 2 different groups with the same name otherwise I doubt there would be such a big difference in the same group

[Bender1999]

Nogay. Crimea -> Dobruja -> Anatolia

y-DNA: https://www.yfull.com/tree/R-M478/

https://i.ibb.co/VNQxbvf/nogay.jpg


Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Karakalpak @ 8,419448
2 Uzbek @ 13,046761
3 Crimean_Tatar_Steppe @ 13,104901
4 Kazakh @ 15,274515
5 Uygur @ 16,194346
6 Bashkir @ 16,72267
7 Turkmen_Uzbekistan @ 18,279725
8 Hazara @ 19,084544
9 Kyrgyz @ 19,533409
10 Kyrgyz_Bishkek @ 20,757812
11 Nogais @ 26,119795
12 Uzbeks @ 28,715708
13 Tajik_Tajikistan @ 29,151063
14 Yoruk @ 29,165221
15 Turkmen_Iran @ 29,720728
16 Altai @ 30,252289
17 Turk_Northwest @ 31,103723
18 Crimean_Tatar_Mountain @ 32,387149
19 Turkmens @ 32,451239
20 Tajiks @ 32,485532
21 Turk_Southwest @ 32,621374
22 Rus_Pinega @ 32,700214
23 Mari @ 33,905332
24 Mongol @ 33,912591
25 Turk_Bulgaria @ 34,065894
26 Udmurt @ 34,777655
27 Pamiri_Shughnan @ 34,837973
28 Yagnobi @ 34,956702
29 Turk_West_BlackSea @ 34,993693
30 Pamiri_Rushan @ 35,240101
335 iterations.

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 Crimean_Tatar_Steppe+Karakalpak @ 4,770161
2 Crimean_Tatar_Steppe+Kazakh @ 4,77375
3 Crimean_Tatar_Steppe+Kyrgyz @ 5,560363
4 Crimean_Tatar_Steppe+Kyrgyz_Bishkek @ 6,215821
5 Karakalpak+Uzbek @ 7,367021
6 Crimean_Tatar_Steppe+Uygur @ 7,863796
7 Kyrgyz_Bishkek+Nogais @ 7,885111
8 Kazakh+Uzbek @ 7,994195
9 Mongol+Turk_Bulgaria @ 8,114817
10 Kazakh+Nogais @ 8,123219
11 Kyrgyz+Nogais @ 8,271884
12 Karakalpak+Karakalpak @ 8,419448
13 Crimean_Tatar_Mountain+Kyrgyz_Bishkek @ 8,423815
14 Crimean_Tatar_Steppe+Hazara @ 8,720328
15 Kyrgyz_Bishkek+Turk_Bulgaria @ 8,741879
16 Crimean_Tatar_Mountain+Kyrgyz @ 8,911536
17 Kazakh+Turkmen_Uzbekistan @ 8,919221
18 Kyrgyz+Turk_Bulgaria @ 8,953308
19 Bashkir+Uygur @ 8,960296
20 Karakalpak+Turkmen_Uzbekistan @ 9,211075
21 Crimean_Tatar_Mountain+Mongol @ 9,220672
22 Bashkir+Karakalpak @ 9,339194
23 Altai+Crimean_Tatar_Mountain @ 9,344107
24 Mongol+R,Moldova_Gagauz @ 9,377959
25 Bulgarian+Mongol @ 9,592672
26 Gagauz+Mongol @ 9,694918
27 Mongol+Pomak @ 9,695233
28 Mongol+Turk_Greece @ 9,736249
29 Mongol+Romanians @ 9,819193
30 Altai+Turk_Bulgaria @ 9,833959
56280 iterations.

Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Kazakh +25% Crimean_Tatar_Steppe +25% Nogais @ 3,208146
2 50% Bashkir +25% Hezhen +25% Ossetian @ 3,793423
3 50% Bashkir +25% Circassian +25% Hezhen @ 3,850046
4 50% Bashkir +25% Mongola +25% Ossetian @ 3,927515
5 50% Kyrgyz +25% Crimean_Tatar_Steppe +25% Nogais @ 3,946563
6 50% Kyrgyz_Bishkek +25% Bashkir +25% Karachay @ 3,960473
7 50% Kyrgyz_Bishkek +25% Balkar +25% Bashkir @ 4,036909
8 50% Kyrgyz_Bishkek +25% Crimean_Tatar_Steppe +25% Nogais @ 4,038591
9 50% Kyrgyz +25% Bashkir +25% Crimean_Tatar_Mountain @ 4,041452
10 50% Bashkir +25% Karachay +25% Mongola @ 4,069752
11 50% Bashkir +25% Circassian +25% Mongola @ 4,095293
12 50% Bashkir +25% Hezhen +25% Karachay @ 4,101446
13 50% Karakalpak +25% Kyrgyz +25% Turk_Bulgaria @ 4,110449
14 50% Karakalpak +25% Crimean_Tatar_Mountain +25% Kazakh @ 4,115837
15 50% Kazakh +25% Bashkir +25% Karachay @ 4,141758
16 50% Bashkir +25% Hezhen +25% Ingush @ 4,155843
17 50% Karakalpak +25% Bulgarian +25% Kyrgyz @ 4,15737
18 50% Karakalpak +25% Kazakh +25% Turk_Bulgaria @ 4,188157
19 50% Kyrgyz +25% Bashkir +25% Karachay @ 4,195193
20 50% Karakalpak +25% Karakalpak +25% Nogais @ 4,198575
21 50% Karakalpak +25% Kyrgyz_Bishkek +25% Turk_Bulgaria @ 4,23804
22 50% Bashkir +25% Ossetian +25% Xibo @ 4,23886
23 50% Bashkir +25% Balkar +25% Hezhen @ 4,249611
24 50% Crimean_Tatar_Steppe +25% Karakalpak +25% Kyrgyz @ 4,251028
25 50% Kyrgyz +25% Bulgarians +25% Uzbek @ 4,254552
26 50% Bashkir +25% Circassian +25% Daur @ 4,270433
27 50% Bashkir +25% Daur +25% Ossetian @ 4,283566
28 50% Karakalpak +25% Bulgarian +25% Kyrgyz_Bishkek @ 4,293773
29 50% Bashkir +25% Balkar +25% Mongola @ 4,303427
30 50% Kyrgyz_Bishkek +25% Bashkir +25% Crimean_Tatar_Mountain @ 4,306929
10803782 iterations.

Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Avar_Dagestan+Ket+Korean+Turk_Bulgaria @ 3,033894
2 Dargin+Ket+Korean+Turk_Bulgaria @ 3,133439
3 Avar_Dagestan+Ket+Korean+R,Moldova_Gagauz @ 3,2054
4 Crimean_Tatar_Steppe+Kazakh+Kazakh+Nogais @ 3,208146
5 Dargin+Ket+Korean+R,Moldova_Gagauz @ 3,261588
6 Ket+Korean+Lak+R,Moldova_Gagauz @ 3,275587
7 Avar+Ket+Korean+Turk_Bulgaria @ 3,27591
8 Ket+Korean+Lak+Turk_Bulgaria @ 3,289879
9 Hazara+Hungarians+Nogais+Oroqen @ 3,296091
10 Avar+Ket+Korean+R,Moldova_Gagauz @ 3,309217
11 Crimean_Tatar_Steppe+Kazakh+Kyrgyz_Bishkek+Nogais @ 3,318868
12 HUN_Szekely+Ingush+Ket+Korean @ 3,348606
13 Hazara+Nogais+Oroqen+Slovak @ 3,367688
14 Crimean_Tatar_Steppe+Kazakh+Kyrgyz+Nogais @ 3,370286
15 Crimean_Tatar_Steppe+Karakalpak+Kyrgyz_Bishkek+Nog ais @ 3,37492
16 HUN_Szekely+Ket+Korean+Kumyks @ 3,377004
17 Ket+Korean+Tabasaran+Turk_Bulgaria @ 3,392301
18 Avar_Dagestan+Korean+Selkup+Turk_Bulgaria @ 3,430671
19 HUN_Szekely+Nogais+Oroqen+Uygur @ 3,43287
20 Dargin+Gagauz+Ket+Korean @ 3,437605
21 Avar_Dagestan+Gagauz+Ket+Korean @ 3,442478
22 Croat+Nogais+Oroqen+Uygur @ 3,458789
23 Ket+Korean+R,Moldova_Gagauz+Tabasaran @ 3,464015
24 Gagauz+Ket+Korean+Lak @ 3,474942
25 Bosnian+Nogais+Oroqen+Uygur @ 3,481901
26 Nogais+Oroqen+Slovenian+Uygur @ 3,482223
27 Kumyks+Kyrgyz+Oroqen+Slovak @ 3,49168
28 Karachay+Komi+Oroqen+Uygur @ 3,492521
29 Dargin+Ket+Korean+Turk_Greece @ 3,505
30 Chechen+HUN_Szekely+Ket+Korean @ 3,507987
31 Avar+Gagauz+Ket+Korean @ 3,508751
32 Hungarians+Nogais+Oroqen+Uygur @ 3,510524
33 Hezhen+Mari+Nogais+Turkmen_Uzbekistan @ 3,522946
34 HUN_Szekely+Kyrgyz+Lak+Oroqen @ 3,524091
35 HUN_Szekely+Kyrgyz_Bishkek+Lak+Oroqen @ 3,525926
36 Hazara+Nogais+Oroqen+Slovenian @ 3,538175
37 Circassian+HUN_Szekely+Ket+Korean @ 3,548158
38 Croat+Hazara+Nogais+Oroqen @ 3,553901
39 Avar_Dagestan+Ket+Korean+R,Moldova_South @ 3,554731
40 Ket+Korean+Lak+R,Moldova_South @ 3,560305
41 Nogais+Oroqen+Slovak+Uygur @ 3,565633
42 Avar+Ket+Korean+Romanians @ 3,571376
43 Kumyks+Kyrgyz_Bishkek+Oroqen+Slovak @ 3,576661
44 Avar_Dagestan+Ket+Korean+Romanians @ 3,578754
45 Avar_Dagestan+Ket+Korean+Turk_Greece @ 3,583084
46 Dargin+Ket+Korean+R,Moldova_South @ 3,58749
47 Bosnian+Kyrgyz_Bishkek+Lak+Oroqen @ 3,595213
48 Hazara+Nogais+Oroqen+Ukrainian @ 3,598195
49 Kumyks+Kyrgyz+Oroqen+Sorb_Lusatia @ 3,605732
50 HUN_Szekely+Ket+Korean+Ossetian @ 3,607712
51 Dargin+Ket+Korean+Romanians @ 3,610823
52 Ket+Korean+Lak+Turk_Greece @ 3,611244
53 Avar+Ket+Korean+R,Moldova_South @ 3,611348
54 Dargin+Ket+Korean+Turk_Macedonia @ 3,615132
55 Avar_Dagestan+Ket+Korean+Pomak @ 3,615161
56 Ket+Korean+Lezgin+Romanians @ 3,617495
57 Crimean_Tatar_Steppe+Karakalpak+Kyrgyz+Nogais @ 3,620179
58 Bosnian+Hazara+Nogais+Oroqen @ 3,625211
59 Bosnian+Kyrgyz+Lak+Oroqen @ 3,640308
60 Korean+Qumuq+Selkup+Turk_Bulgaria @ 3,646359
86504404 iterations.




Interesting, they are clustering with Central Asian Kipchaks.

[Bender1999]

One type of Nogai is over 40% Mongoloid another is around 25%, sometimes as low as 20. I do not know how to tell them apart (other from genetics) but obviously there are 2 different groups with the same name otherwise I doubt there would be such a big difference in the same group

I know that there are two kinds of Nogais but i wouldn’t expect this kind of differences and that amount of mongoloid Dna.

[Aren]

The guy from the Iraqi project is really impressing me with how he can find individuals from certain minority populations and test them.

He recently tested two Assyrians(Chaldean Catholics) from Suleymaniyya in Northeastern Iraq, the native Assyrians there probably number less than 500.
The first two are uncle/nephew or grandfather/grandson. The third one is more distantly related to them.

Gedrosia 18.18 Pct
Siberian 1.68 Pct
Northwest_African 1.52 Pct
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 12.79 Pct
North_European 1.61 Pct
South_Asian 0.38 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 19.84 Pct
East_Asian 0.18 Pct
Caucasus 43.82 Pct
Sub_Saharan -


Assyrian_Suleymaniyya1
3.96940802 Assyrian_South
4.00361087 Iraqi_Jew
4.15561067 Assyrian_West
4.42512147 Assyrian_North
4.45838536 Mandean
6.73484966 Uzbekistan_Jews
7.20360327 Nusayri_Turkey
7.37877361 Armenian_West
8.70848437 Iraqi_Baghdad
8.83267796 Iranian_Jews
9.51536652 Azerbaijan_Jews
9.79560616 Turkmen_Iraq
9.95782105 Lebanese
10.25568623 Armenian_East
10.26343510 Turk_East
10.42847065 Georgia_Jews
11.18435067 Palestinian_Christian
11.26152299 Zaza
11.48663136 Syria_SW_Christian
11.65728528 Druze
11.78263977 Udi_Azerbaijan
11.80333427 Kurd_Kurmanji
11.81451226 Turk_Southeast
12.05990879 Kurd_Sorani
12.25717749 Greek_Cappadocia

Gedrosia 16.69 Pct
Siberian -
Northwest_African 0.70 Pct
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 10.96 Pct
North_European 1.90 Pct
South_Asian 2.19 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 19.96 Pct
East_Asian -
Caucasus 47.60 Pct
Sub_Saharan -


Assyrian_Suleymaniyya2
2.33225213 Assyrian_South
2.34121763 Assyrian_West
2.58687070 Assyrian_North
4.64067883 Iraqi_Jew
5.13393611 Armenian_West
5.90320252 Mandean
6.03103640 Azerbaijan_Jews
6.20672216 Uzbekistan_Jews
6.40588792 Iranian_Jews
6.51947851 Georgia_Jews
8.24459217 Armenian_East
8.82541217 Nusayri_Turkey
9.27572639 Druze
10.21212515 Turk_East
10.90024770 Lebanese
10.96028740 Greek_Pontus
11.09298427 Iraqi_Baghdad
11.60193949 Udi_Azerbaijan
11.81917510 Palestinian_Christian
11.90577171 Turk_East_Black_Sea
11.99715800 Greek_Cappadocia
12.19345316 Turkmen_Iraq
12.30461296 Syria_SW_Christian
12.54807953 Zaza
13.19389253 Hemshin


Gedrosia 16.88 Pct
Siberian -
Northwest_African 0.30 Pct
Southeast_Asian 0.84 Pct
Atlantic_Med 12.63 Pct
North_European 1.73 Pct
South_Asian 0.34 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 20.23 Pct
East_Asian -
Caucasus 47.06 Pct
Sub_Saharan -


Assyrian_Suleymaniyya3
2.24254320 Assyrian_West
2.67972013 Assyrian_South
2.98251572 Assyrian_North
4.47294087 Iraqi_Jew
5.21886961 Armenian_West
6.23734719 Mandean
6.96576629 Azerbaijan_Jews
7.11813880 Uzbekistan_Jews
7.31832631 Iranian_Jews
7.68845238 Georgia_Jews
7.78041130 Nusayri_Turkey
8.70366589 Armenian_East
9.36117514 Druze
10.56942761 Turk_East
10.57070953 Lebanese
11.12243678 Palestinian_Christian
11.13622467 Greek_Cappadocia
11.32204045 Greek_Pontus
11.46031413 Iraqi_Baghdad
11.57612198 Syria_SW_Christian
12.08331494 Udi_Azerbaijan
12.36205485 Turkmen_Iraq
12.46658333 Turk_East_Black_Sea
12.98247280 Zaza
13.29833824 Syrians

[Dr_Maul]

I know that there are two kinds of Nogais but i wouldn’t expect this kind of differences and that amount of mongoloid Dna.

Well remember Nogais like other Kipchaks have strong Mongol influence. Remember original Nogai horde is founded by Mongol tribes anyway so its expected. I don't have a citation for how much of them today are from it but its probably 50% mongol origin. Obviously they were 90% or more Mongoloid so after mixing with turks and other locals it balanced out to 40-45

[Leto]

Nogay. Crimea -> Dobruja -> Anatolia

y-DNA: https://www.yfull.com/tree/R-M478/

Is that a second generation person? How else could he have stayed so Mongoloid in a Turkish province? I think that sample has been shared here a few times before. 45% EE is insanely high!

[Aren]

These are also really interesting. Shabakis are from around Mosul and speak an Iranian language(Gorani) related to the Kurdish spoken around them but distinct from it. From what I've gathered the original Kurds of Northern Iraq spoke originally something similar to Gorani before shifting to Sorani and Kurmanji. Today many Shabaks inhabit the same settlements as the Assyrians around Mosul.

Gedrosia 26.14 Pct
Siberian 2.05 Pct
Northwest_African -
Southeast_Asian 1.16 Pct
Atlantic_Med 7.61 Pct
North_European 6.21 Pct
South_Asian 3.82 Pct
East_African 0.47 Pct
Southwest_Asian 14.03 Pct
East_Asian -
Caucasus 38.50 Pct
Sub_Saharan -


Shabak1
3.46805421 Kurd_Kurmanji
3.48270010 Lur_Iran
3.56927163 Kurd_Sorani
4.21996445 Iranian
4.72253110 Talysh_Azerbaijan
4.99805962 Zaza
5.46207836 Kurd_KAZ
5.51192344 Iranian_Fars
5.83312952 Turkmen_Iraq
5.99879988 Azerbaijani_Iran
7.61047305 Azerbaijani
8.20639385 Azerbaijani_Turkey
8.57700997 Iran_Mazandaran
9.92226789 Turk_Southeast
10.34401759 Udi_Azerbaijan
10.58306666 Iran_Khorasan
10.70448971 Uzbekistan_Jews
10.82264293 Iraqi_Baghdad
11.91830525 Turk_East
12.53255361 Mandean
12.96368389 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
13.19711711 Turk_Central_East
13.98741577 Turk_South
14.23031272 Assyrian_North
14.49267056 Assyrian_South

Gedrosia 21.61 Pct
Siberian -
Northwest_African 3.23 Pct
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 9.78 Pct
North_European 3.76 Pct
South_Asian 4.45 Pct
East_African 0.44 Pct
Southwest_Asian 15.24 Pct
East_Asian 0.73 Pct
Caucasus 40.77 Pct
Sub_Saharan -


Shabak2
5.04658300 Turkmen_Iraq
5.47719819 Kurd_Sorani
5.60217815 Kurd_Kurmanji
5.90589536 Zaza
7.26911274 Iraqi_Baghdad
7.35106795 Azerbaijani_Iran
7.42566495 Uzbekistan_Jews
7.71390303 Talysh_Azerbaijan
7.72833100 Mandean
7.77099736 Lur_Iran
8.31012034 Azerbaijani_Turkey
8.44340571 Azerbaijani
8.62393182 Turk_Southeast
8.95622130 Kurd_KAZ
8.97353331 Udi_Azerbaijan
9.07946034 Turk_East
9.39617475 Assyrian_South
9.40674226 Assyrian_North
9.91804416 Assyrian_West
9.92806628 Iranian
10.19548429 Iranian_Fars
10.41885790 Iraqi_Jew
11.17014324 Turk_Central_East
11.22847274 Armenian_West
11.80294031 Armenian_East

[Bender1999]

Well remember Nogais like other Kipchaks have strong Mongol influence. Remember original Nogai horde is founded by Mongol tribes anyway so its expected. I don't have a citation for how much of them today are from it but its probably 50% mongol origin. Obviously they were 90% or more Mongoloid so after mixing with turks and other locals it balanced out to 40-45

Yes i know, Central Asian Kipchaks are like Turkic/Mongol mix but i thought Nogais are mostly, depending on which group, between 50-80% Turkic and 20-50% North Caucasian.

[Leto]

I find this person posted by Kaspias interesting - Pomak and Tatar
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?284407-Half-Pomak-half-Tatar-Gedmatch&highlight=Pomak

# Population Percent
1 North_European 24.95
2 Caucasus 24.13
3 Atlantic_Med 21.28
4 Gedrosia 8.13
5 Siberian 6.16
6 Southwest_Asian 6.15
7 East_Asian 4.41
8 Southeast_Asian 2.88
9 South_Asian 0.9
10 Northwest_African 0.72
11 Sub_Saharan 0.3
Target: Tatar-Pomak
Distance: 1.3009% / 1.30091292 | ADC: 0.25x
34.4 Turk_Romania
21.2 Turk_Greece
15.8 Turk_Bulgaria
12.4 Crimean_Tatar_Steppe
7.4 Crimean_Tatar_Mountain
3.8 France_Corsica
2.2 Yakut
2.0 Lahu
0.8 Canarias

[Kaspias]

Is that a second generation person? How else could he have stayed so Mongoloid in a Turkish province? I think that sample has been shared here a few times before. 45% EE is insanely high!

The neighborhood they live in is where only Tatars and Balkan Turks live(Dobruja refugees). The same explanation how Balkan Turks ended up being still full Balkan Turk although living in Anatolia for 150 years. People tend to marry among their own community if they didn't grow up in crowded cities.

His wife is Nogay as well, so 3rd generation will be full Tatar too.



For the situation of Crimean Tatars asked above; Crimean Tatars have more than one origin and migration waves that formed the Crimean Tatar community. Self-identified Nogay's were the last part of that migration wave who came from the Golden Horde as being Turko-Mongols. A mix of Mongols, Turks and natives ended up with around 40% EE as it seems.

The people who score 20-25% EE identify only as Crimean Steppe Tatars, and their settlements to Crimea/Dobruja line dates much before than Nogay's. These people is more likely to have none Mongolian origin.

[Leto]

Sephardic Jew from Thessaloniki (also credit to Kaspias)

Gedrosia 8.65
Siberian -
Northwest_African 6.36
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 26.91
North_European 6.37
South_Asian 1.25
East_African 0.27
Southwest_Asian 15.15
East_Asian -
Caucasus 34.74
Sub_Saharan 0.30

Distance to: Jew_Thessaloniki
4.70990446 Sephardic_Jews
5.51215022 Morocco_Jews
6.12491528 Italy_Calabria
8.27442596 Italy_Sicily
8.35580038 Ashkenazi_Jews
8.66667179 MD_Jewish
8.75638053 Greek_Crete
9.09301523 Italy_Campania
11.61354630 Italy_Abruzzo
12.23489142 Italy_Apulia

Target: Jew_Thessaloniki
Distance: 1.0470% / 1.04699323 | ADC: 0.25x
43.6 Sephardic_Jews
28.2 Morocco_Jews
23.6 Italy_Calabria
3.0 Brahui
1.0 Sardinian
0.6 Sindhi

Target: Jew_Thessaloniki
Distance: 1.9469% / 1.94691283 | ADC: 0.5x
35.4 Sephardic_Jews
34.4 Morocco_Jews
28.2 Italy_Calabria
1.2 Brahui
0.8 Balochi

[Bender1999]

Sephardic Jew from Thessaloniki (also credit to Kaspias)

Gedrosia 8.65
Siberian -
Northwest_African 6.36
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 26.91
North_European 6.37
South_Asian 1.25
East_African 0.27
Southwest_Asian 15.15
East_Asian -
Caucasus 34.74
Sub_Saharan 0.30


SW-Asians are still very Caucasian...

[Leto]

SW-Asians are still very Caucasian...
Jews are not Caucasians (maybe the Bergjuden are, at least geographically and culturally). This is a Caucasian - a Georgian :)

Gedrosia 18.25 Pct
Siberian 2.14 Pct
Northwest_African -
Southeast_Asian 0.05 Pct
Atlantic_Med 9.33 Pct
North_European 9.45 Pct
South_Asian -
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 9.78 Pct
East_Asian -
Caucasus 51.00 Pct
Sub_Saharan -

Distanceto: Guram
3.70213452 Turk_Ahiska
5.82229336 Armenian_East
6.55242703 Turk_East
6.66828314 Udi_Azerbaijan
6.84435534 Turk_East_Black_Sea
7.92895958 Hemshin
8.18114295 Laz
8.78911258 Greek_Pontus
9.17196816 Abkhazian
9.67735501 Georgian_Turkey

Target: Guram
Distance: 2.0566% / 2.05659824 | ADC: 0.5x
77.4 Turk_Ahiska
16.6 Turk_East
4.0 Crimean_Tatar_Coast
2.0 Ossetian

Target: Guram
Distance: 1.0971% / 1.09705465 | ADC: 0.25x
84.4 Turk_Ahiska
8.4 Crimean_Tatar_Coast
6.0 Armenian_East
1.0 Nganassan
0.2 Selkup

[Bender1999]

Yes sure but they have huge amount of Caucasian admix.

[Peterski]

Azeri from Aghjabadi District:

Gedrosia 19.92 Pct
Siberian 2.25 Pct
Northwest_African 2.14 Pct
Southeast_Asian 1.52 Pct
Atlantic_Med 8.31 Pct
North_European 9.60 Pct
South_Asian 0.85 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 10.00 Pct
East_Asian 4.53 Pct
Caucasus 40.89 Pct
Sub_Saharan -

Azeri from Khachmaz District:

Population
Gedrosia 23.03 Pct
Siberian 0.78 Pct
Northwest_African 0.52 Pct
Southeast_Asian 0.18 Pct
Atlantic_Med 5.75 Pct
North_European 13.40 Pct
South_Asian 0.97 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 11.28 Pct
East_Asian 2.28 Pct
Caucasus 41.80 Pct
Sub_Saharan -

=====

Edit:

Christian Arabs from Israel:

Population
Gedrosia 10.94 Pct
Siberian -
Northwest_African 4.73 Pct
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 15.58 Pct
North_European 0.91 Pct
South_Asian -
East_African 0.68 Pct
Southwest_Asian 23.77 Pct
East_Asian 0.42 Pct
Caucasus 42.96 Pct
Sub_Saharan -

Population
Gedrosia 11.59 Pct
Siberian -
Northwest_African 4.67 Pct
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 16.28 Pct
North_European -
South_Asian 0.49 Pct
East_African 1.14 Pct
Southwest_Asian 24.01 Pct
East_Asian -
Caucasus 41.81 Pct
Sub_Saharan -

Population
Gedrosia 11.84 Pct
Siberian -
Northwest_African 4.41 Pct
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 17.08 Pct
North_European -
South_Asian 0.33 Pct
East_African 0.81 Pct
Southwest_Asian 24.65 Pct
East_Asian -
Caucasus 40.88 Pct
Sub_Saharan -

[Leto]

Kyp probably posted those Azerbaijanis months ago...

[Kyp]

Azerbaijani (Karapapak) from Armenia close to Turkey border:
YDNA: R1b M269

Gedrosian: 18.59
Siberian: 2.44
Northwest_African: 0.75
Southeast_Asian: 0.00
Atlantic_Med: 7.32
North_European: 8.01
South_Asian 3.09
East_African 0.49
Southwest_Asian: 12.38
East_Asian: 5.34
Caucasian: 41.58
SSA: 0.00


Distance to: Azerbaijani_West
3.88289840 Azerbaijani_Turkey
4.80958418 Azerbaijani
5.10783712 Azerbaijani_Iran
5.60028571 Turk_Southeast
6.61955437 Turk_Central_East
7.04519695 Turk_East
7.57134070 Zaza
7.61254228 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
7.70472582 Turk_South
7.96843774 Kurd_Kurmanji
8.18427150 Udi_Azerbaijan
8.18513286 Turkmen_Iraq
8.27369929 Talysh_Azerbaijan
9.00549277 Turk_Anatolia
9.26268320 Kurd_Sorani
9.32362590 Turk_Central_West
10.18191043 Uzbekistan_Jews
10.96175625 Kurd_KAZ
11.34617116 Iraqi_Baghdad
11.38725603 Armenian_East
11.64913731 Lur_Iran
11.73386978 Turk_West_BlackSea
11.73700558 Iranian
12.03359049 Turk_Southwest
12.36628885 Azerbaijani_Dagestan

Target: Azerbaijani_West
Distance: 1.6199% / 1.61994032 | ADC: 0.25x
78.6 Azerbaijani_Turkey
14.0 Georgia_Jews
3.4 North_Ossetians
1.8 JPT30
1.4 Yemenese

[Leto]

No new results but an updated oracle - Afghan Tajik, partially from Badakhshan

European
East Eurasian
South Asian

Shamali,33.58,4.07,0,0,6.63,19.13,12.27,0.61,3.25, 2.85,17.53,0.06

Distance to: Shamali
4.92574867 Pamiri_Ishkashim
6.09009031 Pamiri_Shughnan
6.75335472 Pamiri_Rushan
7.78790087 Pashtun_Kandahar
7.83010856 Tajiks
9.42365640 Tajik_Tajikistan
9.77409842 Yagnobi
10.23961913 Tajik_Kabul
10.37817421 Tajik_Herat
10.85422959 Tajik_Panjshir&Kapisa

Target: Shamali
Distance: 2.3756% / 2.37563731 | ADC: 0.5x
35.8 Pamiri_Ishkashim
30.0 Pamiri_Shughnan
20.0 Pashtun_Kandahar
13.4 Tajik_Herat
0.4 French_Basque
0.4 Tajiks

Target: Shamali
Distance: 1.0071% / 1.00714710 | ADC: 0.25x
33.6 Pamiri_Shughnan
27.2 Pamiri_Ishkashim
21.4 Pashtun_Kandahar
13.0 Tajik_Herat
2.8 Makrani
2.0 French_Basque

* * *

Former TA member Registan (Rukha on Anthrogenica). He is both Tajik and Pashtun

Registan,35.52,2.11,0,0,0.39,17.99,16.65,0,3.39,3. 07,20.50,0.38

Distance to: Registan
4.07889691 Pashtun_Kandahar
6.08628787 Tajik_Panjshir&Kapisa
7.49567876 Pashtun_Tarkalani
7.54605857 Kho
7.89167916 Tajik_Kabul
8.06948573 Pashtun_Uthmankhel
8.83938912 Pamiri_Ishkashim
9.87359610 Kalash
9.92622788 Nuristani
10.11415345 Pashtun_Yusafzai

Target: Registan
Distance: 2.2428% / 2.24283610 | ADC: 0.25x
50.2 Pashtun_Kandahar
39.2 Kho
9.4 Lak
0.6 North_Ossetians
0.4 Japanese
0.2 JPT30

[canadienne]

My Mother's 23andme V3 Result;

Population
Gedrosia 14.08 Pct
Siberian 1.40 Pct
Northwest_African 2.22 Pct
Southeast_Asian 0.13 Pct
Atlantic_Med 18.49 Pct
North_European 20.56 Pct
South_Asian 1.84 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 7.77 Pct
East_Asian 4.61 Pct
Caucasus 28.40 Pct
Sub_Saharan 0.49 Pct

[Leto]

Gedrosia 31.85
Siberian 4.44
Northwest_African 0
Southeast_Asian 0.84
Atlantic_Med 6.12
North_European 23.77
South_Asian 10.44
East_African 0
Southwest_Asian 1.57
East_Asian 0.42
Caucasus 20.56
Sub_Saharan 0

Updated oracle for this Pamiri

Distance to: O.O.
3.83357535 Pamiri_Rushan
4.60335747 Pamiri_Shughnan
6.62932123 Pamiri_Ishkashim
6.82245557 Yagnobi
9.87068387 Tajik_Tajikistan
10.50150942 Tajiks
12.04521067 Pashtun_Kandahar
14.29913983 Tajik_Herat
15.08338821 Tajik_Panjshir&Kapisa
15.47060115 Tajik_Kabul

Target: O.O.
Distance: 2.8187% / 2.81866806 | ADC: 0.5x
85.8 Pamiri_Rushan
8.8 Pashtun_Kandahar
5.4 Avar_Dagestan

Target: O.O.
Distance: 2.0527% / 2.05267577 | ADC: 0.25x
76.6 Pamiri_Rushan
11.0 Avar_Dagestan
10.6 Nuristani
1.8 Balkan_Gypsy

[Thambi]

Afghan Pashtun and Tajik mixed.

# Population Percent
1 Gedrosia 28.53
2 South_Asian 19.8
3 Caucasus 18.19
4 North_European 13.4
5 East_Asian 7.44
6 Siberian 5.03
7 Southwest_Asian 3.1
8 Southeast_Asian 2.79
9 Atlantic_Med 1.19
10 East_African 0.44
11 Sub_Saharan 0.09

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Tajiks (Yunusbayev) 14.25
2 Burusho (HGDP) 17.27
3 Turkmens (Yunusbayev) 17.65
4 Pathan (HGDP) 17.93
5 Bnei_Menashe_Jews (Behar) 22.72
6 Jatt (Dodecad) 23.99
7 Uzbeks (Behar) 27.4
8 Iranians (Behar) 27.87
9 Sindhi (HGDP) 28.5
10 Iranian (Dodecad) 28.8
11 Brahmins_from_Uttar_Pradesh (Metspalu) 29.18
12 Cochin_Jews (Behar) 30.4
13 Kurd (Dodecad) 30.76
14 Nogais (Yunusbayev) 30.99
15 Hazara (HGDP) 31.37
16 Kurds (Yunusbayev) 32.21
17 Uygur (HGDP) 32.53
18 Kumyks (Yunusbayev) 32.76
19 Kshatriya (Metspalu) 33.06
20 Lezgins (Behar) 33.52

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 83.8% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) + 16.2% Pulliyar (Metspalu) @ 4.08
2 82.4% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) + 17.6% ASUR (Chaubey) @ 4.5
3 82.6% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) + 17.4% MALAYAN (Behar) @ 4.56
4 81.7% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) + 18.3% Nihali (Metspalu) @ 4.57
5 80.5% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) + 19.5% Gond (Metspalu) @ 4.78
6 83.2% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) + 16.8% Ho (Chaubey) @ 4.96
7 63% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) + 37% Brahmins_from_Uttar_Pradesh (Metspalu) @ 5.01
8 83.2% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) + 16.8% Savara (Chaubey) @ 5.09
9 83.2% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) + 16.8% Kharia (Chaubey) @ 5.28
10 81.4% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) + 18.6% North_Kannadi (Behar) @ 5.28
11 81% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) + 19% Hakkipikki (Metspalu) @ 5.43
12 79% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) + 21% Chenchus (Metspalu) @ 5.62
13 66.1% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) + 33.9% Kshatriya (Metspalu) @ 5.79
14 71.1% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) + 28.9% Kanjars (Metspalu) @ 5.79
15 70.7% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) + 29.3% Muslim (Metspalu) @ 5.88
16 80.5% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) + 19.5% SAKILLI (Behar) @ 5.9
17 62.9% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) + 37.1% Bnei_Menashe_Jews (Behar) @ 5.92
18 80.4% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) + 19.6% Chamar (Metspalu) @ 5.94
19 83.4% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) + 16.6% Juang (Chaubey) @ 6.13
20 70% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) + 30% Tharus (Metspalu) @ 6.17

[Leto]

Looks like Kyp is abandoning the thread :confused:

Presumably an Azerbaijani

Gedrosia 22.96 Pct
Siberian 2.31 Pct
Northwest_African 0.38 Pct
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 7.43 Pct
North_European 8.50 Pct
South_Asian 2.76 Pct
East_African 0.35 Pct
Southwest_Asian 11.67 Pct
East_Asian 2.25 Pct
Caucasus 41.38 Pct
Sub_Saharan -

Distance to: Aja
3.06998371 Azerbaijani_Iran
3.56789854 Talysh_Azerbaijan
3.64721812 Zaza
3.73658935 Azerbaijani_Turkey
4.11042577 Kurd_Kurmanji
4.37027459 Azerbaijani
6.34546295 Udi_Azerbaijan
6.48981510 Kurd_Sorani
6.54882432 Kurd_KAZ
7.01928771 Turkmen_Iraq

Target: Aja
Distance: 1.4170% / 1.41697800 | ADC: 1x
42.8 Talysh_Azerbaijan
36.6 Azerbaijani_Iran
20.6 Azerbaijani_Turkey

Target: Aja
Distance: 0.9153% / 0.91528112 | ADC: 0.5x
50.8 Talysh_Azerbaijan
47.6 Azerbaijani_Turkey
1.4 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
0.2 Azerbaijani_Iran

Target: Aja
Distance: 0.7066% / 0.70658449 | ADC: 0.25x
48.2 Talysh_Azerbaijan
44.8 Azerbaijani_Turkey
2.8 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
2.2 Zaza
2.0 Kumyks

[Leto]

This is either an Iraqi or an Iranian Arab

Gedrosia 23.42 Pct
Siberian 0.21 Pct
Northwest_African 1.42 Pct
Southeast_Asian 1.37 Pct
Atlantic_Med 9.13 Pct
North_European 3.38 Pct
South_Asian 3.57 Pct
East_African 1.45 Pct
Southwest_Asian 20.00 Pct
East_Asian -
Caucasus 35.30 Pct
Sub_Saharan 0.75 Pct

Distance to: Julia
5.72247324 Iraqi_Baghdad
5.90094060 Turkmen_Iraq
6.41953269 Kurd_Sorani
8.75235397 Lur_Iran
8.79561823 Kurd_Kurmanji
9.01221393 Iranian_Fars
9.68274754 Mandean
10.32326983 Zaza
10.79239084 Azerbaijani_Iran
11.18628625 Uzbekistan_Jews

Target: Julia
Distance: 2.7953% / 2.79526178 | ADC: 0.5x
72.8 Iraqi_Baghdad
18.0 Kurd_Sorani
5.0 Turkmen_Iraq
4.2 Brahui

Target: Julia
Distance: 1.8885% / 1.88854047 | ADC: 0.25x
73.6 Iraqi_Baghdad
10.0 Turkmen_Iraq
8.0 Mandean
7.2 Brahui
1.2 Kurd_Sorani

[Leto]

A Volga Tatar with high Mongoloid (25%). Ural is a Tatar given name

Gedrosia 8.14 Pct
Siberian 17.19 Pct
Northwest_African -
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 15.37 Pct
North_European 40.07 Pct
South_Asian 0.46 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 1.08 Pct
East_Asian 7.90 Pct
Caucasus 9.79 Pct
Sub_Saharan -

Distance to: Ural
4.85252512 Tatar_Kazan
11.61364284 Udmurt
11.68816923 Mari
13.80652744 Komi
15.06748486 Chuvash
16.48727691 Bashkir
19.13567611 Crimean_Tatar_Steppe
19.79367828 Veps
22.17064050 HUN_Szekely
23.15336909 MD_North

Target: Ural
Distance: 1.3891% / 1.38905482 | ADC: 0.25x
84.8 Tatar_Kazan
6.4 Mari
3.8 Yukagir
2.8 Bashkir
2.2 Pais_Vasco

[Zroota]

# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 42.32
2 Southwest_Asian 19.98
3 Gedrosia 19.03
4 Atlantic_Med 11.24
5 North_European 4.72
6 Northwest_African 1.38
7 East_Asian 0.75
8 South_Asian 0.57

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) 4.9
2 Iraq_Jews (Behar) 8.48
3 Iranian_Jews (Behar) 9.01
4 Lebanese (Behar) 9.42
5 Assyrian (Dodecad) 9.75
6 Georgia_Jews (Behar) 9.8
7 Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) 9.89
8 Kurds (Yunusbayev) 11.25
9 Syrians (Behar) 11.62
10 Turks (Behar) 11.65
11 Kurd (Dodecad) 11.93
12 Druze (HGDP) 12.38
13 Turkish (Dodecad) 12.84
14 Iranian (Dodecad) 13.38
15 Armenian (Dodecad) 13.62
16 Armenians_15 (Yunusbayev) 13.62
17 Jordanians (Behar) 14.4
18 Iranians (Behar) 14.58
19 Cypriots (Behar) 16.31
20 Palestinian (HGDP) 17.45

[Leto]

# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 42.32
2 Southwest_Asian 19.98
3 Gedrosia 19.03
4 Atlantic_Med 11.24
5 North_European 4.72
6 Northwest_African 1.38
7 East_Asian 0.75
8 South_Asian 0.57

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) 4.9
2 Iraq_Jews (Behar) 8.48
3 Iranian_Jews (Behar) 9.01
4 Lebanese (Behar) 9.42
5 Assyrian (Dodecad) 9.75
6 Georgia_Jews (Behar) 9.8
7 Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) 9.89
8 Kurds (Yunusbayev) 11.25
9 Syrians (Behar) 11.62
10 Turks (Behar) 11.65
11 Kurd (Dodecad) 11.93
12 Druze (HGDP) 12.38
13 Turkish (Dodecad) 12.84
14 Iranian (Dodecad) 13.38
15 Armenian (Dodecad) 13.62
16 Armenians_15 (Yunusbayev) 13.62
17 Jordanians (Behar) 14.4
18 Iranians (Behar) 14.58
19 Cypriots (Behar) 16.31
20 Palestinian (HGDP) 17.45
Distance to: Shelati
4.78544669 Mandean
5.29712186 Uzbekistan_Jews
5.48438693 Assyrian_South
5.65068137 Assyrian_North
5.76562226 Iraqi_Jew
5.78708908 Assyrian_West
6.59119109 Iraqi_Baghdad
6.98199112 Turkmen_Iraq
8.63943285 Armenian_West
8.76025114 Nusayri_Turkey

Target: Shelati
Distance: 2.1717% / 2.17171542 | ADC: 0.5x
30.8 Mandean
23.2 Turkmen_Iraq
17.0 Uzbekistan_Jews
12.6 Iraqi_Jew
6.0 Assyrian_West
5.8 Greek_Crete
4.6 Nusayri_Turkey

Target: Shelati
Distance: 1.4257% / 1.42566610 | ADC: 0.25x
32.0 Iraqi_Jew
26.2 Mandean
14.2 Turkmen_Iraq
12.2 Uzbekistan_Jews
6.6 Assyrian_West
3.4 Assyrian_North
2.4 Crimean_Tatar_Coast
2.4 Swedish
0.6 German

[Zroota]

Distance to: Shelati
4.78544669 Mandean
5.29712186 Uzbekistan_Jews
5.48438693 Assyrian_South
5.65068137 Assyrian_North
5.76562226 Iraqi_Jew
5.78708908 Assyrian_West
6.59119109 Iraqi_Baghdad
6.98199112 Turkmen_Iraq
8.63943285 Armenian_West
8.76025114 Nusayri_Turkey

Target: Shelati
Distance: 2.1717% / 2.17171542 | ADC: 0.5x
30.8 Mandean
23.2 Turkmen_Iraq
17.0 Uzbekistan_Jews
12.6 Iraqi_Jew
6.0 Assyrian_West
5.8 Greek_Crete
4.6 Nusayri_Turkey

Target: Shelati
Distance: 1.4257% / 1.42566610 | ADC: 0.25x
32.0 Iraqi_Jew
26.2 Mandean
14.2 Turkmen_Iraq
12.2 Uzbekistan_Jews
6.6 Assyrian_West
3.4 Assyrian_North
2.4 Crimean_Tatar_Coast
2.4 Swedish
0.6 German
Interesting.

What is Uzbekistan Jewish? They are pretty distant geographically. How would they be related to us? (Not the first time seeing them so high in the distance list)

[Leto]

Interesting.

What is Uzbekistan Jewish? They are pretty distant geographically. How would they be related to us? (Not the first time seeing them so high in the distance list)
They are basically Persian Jews who migrated to the east of Iran.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bukharan_Jews
Genetically they have nothing to do with the Turkic Muslim Uzbeks. Bukhara wasn't even Turkic when they moved there.

[Halgurd]

Interesting.

What is Uzbekistan Jewish? They are pretty distant geographically. How would they be related to us? (Not the first time seeing them so high in the distance list)

They can be modelled as mostly Assyrian + minor Kurdish

[Aren]

Interesting.

What is Uzbekistan Jewish? They are pretty distant geographically. How would they be related to us? (Not the first time seeing them so high in the distance list)

They are essentially Iraqi Jews + some minor Persian, but ignore that average it's terrible. Interesting here you score higher than average SW Asian but with Eurogenes your Red Sea is a bit lower than average.

[Leto]

They are essentially Iraqi Jews + some minor Persian, but ignore that average it's terrible. Interesting here you score higher than average SW Asian but with Eurogenes your Red Sea is a bit lower than average.
Uzbekistan Jews? Why do you think it's terrible? We probably won't find a better one anyway.

[Bender1999]

I would see Krymchak and Karaites results, they are a bit different to other Jewish groups. Also it is very interesting that Bukhara Jews didn’t mix with Uzbeks for long time.

[Leto]

Cappadocian Greek from Nigde

Gedrosia 10.42 Pct
Siberian 0.53 Pct
Northwest_African 0.59 Pct
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 20.22 Pct
North_European 8.73 Pct
South_Asian -
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 13.40 Pct
East_Asian -
Caucasus 46.11 Pct
Sub_Saharan -

Distance to: Cappadocian_Nigde
3.58067033 Greek_Cappadocia
8.42353845 Cypriots
9.61784799 Greek_Crete
10.52740709 Nusayri_Turkey
12.41582458 Armenian_East
12.57521769 Armenian_West
12.58296070 Turk_East
12.59238659 Turk_Central_East
13.15502946 Sephardic_Jews
13.33000000 Turk_Central_West

Target: Cappadocian_Nigde
Distance: 1.5206% / 1.52058775 | ADC: 0.5x
80.8 Greek_Cappadocia
14.6 Greek_Crete
4.6 Crimean_Tatar_Coast

Target: Cappadocian_Nigde
Distance: 0.3785% / 0.37853682 | ADC: 0.25x
84.2 Greek_Cappadocia
13.8 Greek
2.0 Crimean_Tatar_Coast

Pontic Greek from Giresun

Gedrosia 15.53 Pct
Siberian 0.19 Pct
Northwest_African 0.34 Pct
Southeast_Asian 0.58 Pct
Atlantic_Med 11.59 Pct
North_European 5.57 Pct
South_Asian -
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 12.10 Pct
East_Asian -
Caucasus 54.09 Pct
Sub_Saharan -

Distance to: Pontic_Giresun
1.84485772 Turk_East_Black_Sea
2.09961901 Greek_Pontus
3.98952378 Hemshin
4.82566058 Laz
4.93880552 Armenian_East
6.65637289 Turk_Ahiska
6.72852138 Armenian_West
8.20839814 Georgian_Adjara
8.50914214 Georgia_Jews
8.71619757 Azerbaijan_Jews

Target: Pontic_Giresun
Distance: 1.0378% / 1.03781894 | ADC: 0.5x
45.8 Turk_East_Black_Sea
42.0 Greek_Pontus
10.6 Armenian_East
1.6 Turk_Ahiska

Target: Pontic_Giresun
Distance: 0.5709% / 0.57091803 | ADC: 0.25x
69.8 Greek_Pontus
13.2 Turk_East_Black_Sea
13.0 Turk_Ahiska
3.2 Armenian_East
0.6 Lithuanian
0.2 MAS30

[Aren]

Interesting.

What is Uzbekistan Jewish? They are pretty distant geographically. How would they be related to us? (Not the first time seeing them so high in the distance list)

They are essentially Iraqi Jews + some minor Persian, but ignore that average it's terrible. Interesting here you score higher than average SW Asian but with Eurogenes your Red Sea is a bit lower than average.

[Bender1999]

The pontus greek is more Gedrosian than the Cappadocian. How that’s possible,i thought ancient Anatolians had a good amount of Gedrosia.

[Aren]

Uzbekistan Jews? Why do you think it's terrible? We probably won't find a better one anyway.

Like I mentioned before all of the averages for Mizrahi Jews + Assyrians were bad cause they were part of the original run. The Caucasus score is inflated for everyone basically.
Uzbeki Jew Caucasus score should be around that of Iranian Jews, around 42-43%.

[Kyp]

The pontus greek is more Gedrosian than the Cappadocian. How that’s possible,i thought ancient Anatolians had a good amount of Gedrosia.


Aren't Pontic Greeks more Eastern located than Cappadocian Greeks ? Nothing surprising

Aeagean probably had even less. Balkan has low too.

I think Turks increased Gedrosian in Anatolia

[Bender1999]

Aren't Pontic Greeks more Eastern located than Cappadocian Greeks ? Nothing surprising

Yes but compare them to Turks who live there nowadays. If preTurkic population were low Gedrosia in that region, that would mean Turks were between 20-25% Gedrosian before mixing.

[Kyp]

Yes but compare them to Turks who live there nowadays. If preTurkic population were low Gedrosia in that region, that would mean Turks were between 20-25% Gedrosian before mixing.

ImperialRomanAnatolia,6.48,0,0,0.40,25.85,5.63,0.4 4,0,16.75,0,44.43,0
R70_Imperial_Era_ANAS,9.49,0,2.06,0,21.22,2.38,0,1 .98,20.77,0,42.11,0
R71_Imperial_Era_ANAS,6.68,0,5.09,0,20.64,2.69,0,0 ,11.98,0,52.93,0
R72_Imperial_Era_ANAS,8.65,0.16,0.83,0,23.62,5.24, 0,0,17.14,0,44.18,0.19
R73_Imperial_Era_ANAS,10.54,0,6.31,0,23.41,4.26,0. 54,1.07,18.58,0,34.82,0.46

[Bender1999]

ImperialRomanAnatolia,6.48,0,0,0.40,25.85,5.63,0.4 4,0,16.75,0,44.43,0
R70_Imperial_Era_ANAS,9.49,0,2.06,0,21.22,2.38,0,1 .98,20.77,0,42.11,0
R71_Imperial_Era_ANAS,6.68,0,5.09,0,20.64,2.69,0,0 ,11.98,0,52.93,0
R72_Imperial_Era_ANAS,8.65,0.16,0.83,0,23.62,5.24, 0,0,17.14,0,44.18,0.19
R73_Imperial_Era_ANAS,10.54,0,6.31,0,23.41,4.26,0. 54,1.07,18.58,0,34.82,0.46

Now i have a totally different imagination of preAnatolian Turks.

[Kyp]

Azerbaijani from Masalli:
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/09/Masally_in_Azerbaijan.svg/330px-Masally_in_Azerbaijan.svg.png


Gedrosian: 21.86
Siberian: 4.10
Northwest_African: 1.36
Southeast_Asian: 0.86
Atlantic_Med: 8.66
North_European: 8.12
South_Asian 3.04
East_African 0.00
Southwest_Asian: 10.83
East_Asian: 2.72
Caucasian: 38.43
SSA: 0.00

Distance to: Azeri_Masalli
2.27514835 Azerbaijani_Iran
2.94526739 Azerbaijani
3.02049665 Azerbaijani_Turkey
5.54931527 Kurd_Kurmanji
5.58989266 Turk_Southeast
6.44373339 Zaza
6.72227640 Talysh_Azerbaijan
7.46684003 Turkmen_Iraq
7.62060365 Kurd_Sorani
7.78048842 Turk_Central_East
7.94994969 Turk_South
8.80998865 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
8.89677470 Iranian
9.23872827 Turk_East
9.26429706 Turk_Anatolia
9.27547842 Lur_Iran
9.33977516 Udi_Azerbaijan
9.51724750 Kurd_KAZ
9.57962421 Iranian_Fars
9.62933539 Turk_Central_West
10.19343907 Iran_Khorasan
10.52295586 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
11.63081253 Turk_Southwest
11.83603819 Turk_West_BlackSea
11.91453314 Iraqi_Baghdad

Target: Azeri_Masalli
Distance: 1.0372% / 1.03721560 | ADC: 0.25x
58.2 Azerbaijani_Iran
37.6 Azerbaijani_Turkey
2.6 Tajik_Panjshir&Kapisa
1.0 Nganassan
0.4 Turkmens

[Leto]

ImperialRomanAnatolia,6.48,0,0,0.40,25.85,5.63,0.4 4,0,16.75,0,44.43,0
R70_Imperial_Era_ANAS,9.49,0,2.06,0,21.22,2.38,0,1 .98,20.77,0,42.11,0
R71_Imperial_Era_ANAS,6.68,0,5.09,0,20.64,2.69,0,0 ,11.98,0,52.93,0
R72_Imperial_Era_ANAS,8.65,0.16,0.83,0,23.62,5.24, 0,0,17.14,0,44.18,0.19
R73_Imperial_Era_ANAS,10.54,0,6.31,0,23.41,4.26,0. 54,1.07,18.58,0,34.82,0.46
Less European than Ashkenazi Jews. Only 2-5% North Euro.

[Leto]

This Turk looks similar to Azerbaijanis
Here is the man presumably (https://facebook.com/lordulu)

Kit Number: H165280

Gedrosia 18.78 Pct
Siberian 2.41 Pct
Northwest_African -
Southeast_Asian 1.57 Pct
Atlantic_Med 8.68 Pct
North_European 12.30 Pct
South_Asian 0.20 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 9.59 Pct
East_Asian 1.52 Pct
Caucasus 44.94 Pct
Sub_Saharan -

Target: Levend
Distance: 1.6200% / 1.62002347 | ADC: 0.5x
64.6 Turk_East
24.4 Ingush
11.0 Balkar

Target: Levend
Distance: 1.3256% / 1.32557561 | ADC: 0.25x
55.8 Turk_East
18.8 Ingush
17.2 Balkar
6.8 Udi_Azerbaijan
1.0 Crimean_Tatar_Coast
0.4 Dai

[Mingle]

Afghan Pashtun and Tajik mixed.

# Population Percent
1 Gedrosia 28.53
2 South_Asian 19.8
3 Caucasus 18.19
4 North_European 13.4
5 East_Asian 7.44
6 Siberian 5.03
7 Southwest_Asian 3.1
8 Southeast_Asian 2.79
9 Atlantic_Med 1.19
10 East_African 0.44
11 Sub_Saharan 0.09

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Tajiks (Yunusbayev) 14.25
2 Burusho (HGDP) 17.27
3 Turkmens (Yunusbayev) 17.65
4 Pathan (HGDP) 17.93
5 Bnei_Menashe_Jews (Behar) 22.72
6 Jatt (Dodecad) 23.99
7 Uzbeks (Behar) 27.4
8 Iranians (Behar) 27.87
9 Sindhi (HGDP) 28.5
10 Iranian (Dodecad) 28.8
11 Brahmins_from_Uttar_Pradesh (Metspalu) 29.18
12 Cochin_Jews (Behar) 30.4
13 Kurd (Dodecad) 30.76
14 Nogais (Yunusbayev) 30.99
15 Hazara (HGDP) 31.37
16 Kurds (Yunusbayev) 32.21
17 Uygur (HGDP) 32.53
18 Kumyks (Yunusbayev) 32.76
19 Kshatriya (Metspalu) 33.06
20 Lezgins (Behar) 33.52

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 83.8% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) + 16.2% Pulliyar (Metspalu) @ 4.08
2 82.4% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) + 17.6% ASUR (Chaubey) @ 4.5
3 82.6% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) + 17.4% MALAYAN (Behar) @ 4.56
4 81.7% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) + 18.3% Nihali (Metspalu) @ 4.57
5 80.5% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) + 19.5% Gond (Metspalu) @ 4.78
6 83.2% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) + 16.8% Ho (Chaubey) @ 4.96
7 63% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) + 37% Brahmins_from_Uttar_Pradesh (Metspalu) @ 5.01
8 83.2% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) + 16.8% Savara (Chaubey) @ 5.09
9 83.2% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) + 16.8% Kharia (Chaubey) @ 5.28
10 81.4% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) + 18.6% North_Kannadi (Behar) @ 5.28
11 81% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) + 19% Hakkipikki (Metspalu) @ 5.43
12 79% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) + 21% Chenchus (Metspalu) @ 5.62
13 66.1% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) + 33.9% Kshatriya (Metspalu) @ 5.79
14 71.1% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) + 28.9% Kanjars (Metspalu) @ 5.79
15 70.7% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) + 29.3% Muslim (Metspalu) @ 5.88
16 80.5% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) + 19.5% SAKILLI (Behar) @ 5.9
17 62.9% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) + 37.1% Bnei_Menashe_Jews (Behar) @ 5.92
18 80.4% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) + 19.6% Chamar (Metspalu) @ 5.94
19 83.4% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) + 16.6% Juang (Chaubey) @ 6.13
20 70% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) + 30% Tharus (Metspalu) @ 6.17

Would you happen to know which part of Afghanistan they're from?

Also, do you have their kit number? Curious about their HW results.

[harutsafaryan07]

Armenian from Amasya with high Atlantic Med

Gedrosia 15.52
Siberian 0.48
Northwest_African 0
Southeast_Asian 0
Atlantic_Med 14.18
North_European 4.15
South_Asian 0
East_African 0
Southwest_Asian 14.63
East_Asian 0
Caucasus 51.04
Sub_Saharan 0

Distance to: Armenian_Amasya
3.54103092 Armenian_West
4.58485550 Armenian_East
4.75837157 Greek_Pontus
6.00114989 Turk_East_Black_Sea
7.17391804 Assyrian_West
7.26024793 Greek_Cappadocia
7.67503746 Azerbaijan_Jews
7.69003901 Assyrian_North
7.94387815 Assyrian_South
8.23188921 Georgia_Jews
8.38227893 Hemshin
8.38692435 Turk_East
9.38198806 Laz
10.17657113 Turk_Ahiska
10.41232923 Udi_Azerbaijan
10.70757676 Uzbekistan_Jews
10.74881854 Nusayri_Turkey
11.50724554 Iraqi_Jew
11.90118061 Druze
12.28072473 Iranian_Jews
12.31449552 Cypriots
12.36102342 Georgian_Adjara
12.49397455 Mandean
13.30020301 Georgian_Turkey
13.67335365 Turk_Central_East

[Leto]

Uyghur (the kit is titled so)

Gedrosia 9.09 Pct
Siberian 23.70 Pct
Northwest_African -
Southeast_Asian 5.32 Pct
Atlantic_Med 3.65 Pct
North_European 10.64 Pct
South_Asian 3.23 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 1.58 Pct
East_Asian 33.83 Pct
Caucasus 8.79 Pct
Sub_Saharan 0.15 Pct

Target: Uyghur
Distance: 2.0797% / 2.07970545 | ADC: 0.5x
83.6 Kyrgyz
8.4 Uygur
5.4 Karakalpak
1.4 Burmanese
1.2 Syria_SW_Christian

Target: Uyghur
Distance: 0.7399% / 0.73985970 | ADC: 0.25x
83.6 Kyrgyz
6.0 Uygur
3.6 Burmanese
3.4 Nusayri_Turkey
2.8 Karakalpak
0.6 Hazara

He is almost 63% Mongoloid.
I also have a Mongol kit but I'm afraid there are no adequate references for them.

[harutsafaryan07]

some mixed Armenians

1 Armenian/Ukrainian mix

Gedrosia 11.06
Siberian 0.28
Northwest_African 0
Southeast_Asian 0.98
Atlantic_Med 15.83
North_European 31.52
South_Asian 0
East_African 0
Southwest_Asian 6.99
East_Asian 0
Caucasus 33.29
Sub_Saharan 0

2 Armenian/Norwegian mix
Gedrosia 12.28
Siberian 0.22 Pct
Northwest_African 0
Southeast_Asian 0
Atlantic_Med 24.36
North_European 29.72
South_Asian 0
East_African 0
Southwest_Asian 6.51
East_Asian 0
Caucasus 26.91
Sub_Saharan 0


3 Armenian/Bangladeshi mix
Gedrosia 23.25
Siberian 0
Northwest_African 0.59
Southeast_Asian 6.68
Atlantic_Med 7.81
North_European 4.60
South_Asian 23.95
East_African 0
Southwest_Asian 6.81
East_Asian 4.72
Caucasus 21.60
Sub_Saharan 0

4 Armenian/Chinese mix

Gedrosia 7.25
Siberian 0
Northwest_African 0
Southeast_Asian 18.03
Atlantic_Med 8.05
North_European 0.92
South_Asian 0.84
East_African 0
Southwest_Asian 6.02
East_Asian 32.65
Caucasus 26.05

[Leto]

This must be an Uzbek

Gedrosia 16.11 Pct
Siberian 19.34 Pct
Northwest_African 0.85 Pct
Southeast_Asian 3.44 Pct
Atlantic_Med 3.57 Pct
North_European 15.16 Pct
South_Asian 3.50 Pct
East_African 0.73 Pct
Southwest_Asian 2.64 Pct
East_Asian 21.68 Pct
Caucasus 12.97 Pct
Sub_Saharan -

Distance to: Shahrukh
5.13447174 Uzbeks
8.77496439 Uzbek
9.22272194 Karakalpak
12.03248520 Hazara
12.37619085 Uygur
13.83187984 Turkmen_Uzbekistan
15.84997792 Kazakh
17.93331537 Crimean_Tatar_Steppe
19.07301759 Kyrgyz
19.70055837 Bashkir

Target: Shahrukh
Distance: 1.6346% / 1.63464291 | ADC: 0.25x
83.8 Uzbeks
8.0 Karakalpak
3.8 Ket
2.2 Dai
1.0 Moroccans
0.6 Ethiopians
0.6 Nganassan

[Bender1999]

Uyghur (the kit is titled so)

Gedrosia 9.09 Pct
Siberian 23.70 Pct
Northwest_African -
Southeast_Asian 5.32 Pct
Atlantic_Med 3.65 Pct
North_European 10.64 Pct
South_Asian 3.23 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 1.58 Pct
East_Asian 33.83 Pct
Caucasus 8.79 Pct
Sub_Saharan 0.15 Pct

Target: Uyghur
Distance: 2.0797% / 2.07970545 | ADC: 0.5x
83.6 Kyrgyz
8.4 Uygur
5.4 Karakalpak
1.4 Burmanese
1.2 Syria_SW_Christian

Target: Uyghur
Distance: 0.7399% / 0.73985970 | ADC: 0.25x
83.6 Kyrgyz
6.0 Uygur
3.6 Burmanese
3.4 Nusayri_Turkey
2.8 Karakalpak
0.6 Hazara

He is almost 63% Mongoloid.
I also have a Mongol kit but I'm afraid there are no adequate references for them.

I don’t think that is an Uyghur, maybe a Kirgiz or Kazak from East Turkestan. I doubt that that a Karluk would show more than 45% east eurasian.

[Bender1999]

Double

[Leto]

I don’t think that is an Uyghur, maybe a Kirgiz or Kazak from East Turkestan. I doubt that that a Karluk would show more than 45% east eurasian.
Uyghurs live in China and are very Eastern geographically. Look at the components, he is noticeably more Sinitic than Siberian. The kit was titled Uyghur.
Uzbeks can range from 20 to 50% theoretically, although both extremes would be rare. Uzbekistan is a mixed country, it has Tajik, Kazakh, Karakalpak minorities and assimilation of Muslims might be an ordinary thing over there.

[Kaazi]

Nepali Kshatriyas (Chhetris)

Nepal
Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 South_Asian 31.88
2 Gedrosia 25.45
3 East_Asian 18.52
4 North_European 9.63
5 Caucasus 4.83
6 Siberian 4.02
7 Southeast_Asian 3.66
8 Southwest_Asian 2.02


Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Burusho (HGDP) 21.39
2 Brahmins_from_Uttar_Pradesh (Metspalu) 24.67
3 Cochin_Jews (Behar) 25.81
4 Bnei_Menashe_Jews (Behar) 26.21
5 Kshatriya (Metspalu) 27.48
6 Jatt (Dodecad) 27.66
7 Brahmins_from_Tamil_Nadu (Metspalu) 27.95
8 Pathan (HGDP) 28.04
9 Indian (Dodecad) 28.41
10 Iyer (Dodecad) 29.51
11 Iyengar (Dodecad) 30.48
12 Sindhi (HGDP) 30.5
13 Tharus (Metspalu) 30.81
14 Hazara (HGDP) 31.03
15 Tajiks (Yunusbayev) 31.12
16 Muslim (Metspalu) 31.24
17 Dharkars (Metspalu) 32.21
18 INS30 (SGVP) 32.24
19 Kanjars (Metspalu) 32.25
20 Uzbeks (Behar) 32.49

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 72.3% Brahmins_from_Uttar_Pradesh (Metspalu) + 27.7% Mongola (HGDP) @ 3.46
2 73.2% Brahmins_from_Uttar_Pradesh (Metspalu) + 26.8% Xibo (HGDP) @ 3.68
3 51% Muslim (Metspalu) + 49% Uygur (HGDP) @ 3.94
4 72.2% Brahmins_from_Uttar_Pradesh (Metspalu) + 27.8% Tu (HGDP) @ 4.02
5 50.2% Kanjars (Metspalu) + 49.8% Uygur (HGDP) @ 4.04
6 52.5% Uygur (HGDP) + 47.5% Uttar_Pradesh_Scheduled_Caste (Metspalu) @ 4.23
7 52.9% Uygur (HGDP) + 47.1% Dusadh (Metspalu) @ 4.45
8 50.2% Dharkars (Metspalu) + 49.8% Uygur (HGDP) @ 4.72
9 52.9% Uygur (HGDP) + 47.1% Tamil_Nadu_Scheduled_Caste (Metspalu) @ 4.73
10 74% Brahmins_from_Uttar_Pradesh (Metspalu) + 26% Naga (Metspalu) @ 4.76
11 73.6% Brahmins_from_Uttar_Pradesh (Metspalu) + 26.4% Hezhen (HGDP) @ 4.78
12 51.4% Tharus (Metspalu) + 48.6% Uygur (HGDP) @ 4.79
13 50.2% INS30 (SGVP) + 49.8% Uygur (HGDP) @ 4.79
14 54.1% Uygur (HGDP) + 45.9% Kurumba (Metspalu) @ 4.95
15 55.1% Uygur (HGDP) + 44.9% Piramalai_Kallars (Metspalu) @ 4.98
16 70.2% Kshatriya (Metspalu) + 29.8% Mongola (HGDP) @ 5.06
17 54.8% Uygur (HGDP) + 45.2% Kol (Metspalu) @ 5.2
18 52.1% Uygur (HGDP) + 47.9% Velamas (Metspalu) @ 5.22
19 71.2% Kshatriya (Metspalu) + 28.8% Xibo (HGDP) @ 5.51
20 70.1% Kshatriya (Metspalu) + 29.9% Tu (HGDP) @ 5.61


Budhathoki
Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 South_Asian 32.5
2 Gedrosia 23.83
3 East_Asian 19.2
4 North_European 7.74
5 Southeast_Asian 6.04
6 Siberian 4.38
7 Caucasus 4.21
8 Southwest_Asian 1.67
9 East_African 0.36
10 Sub_Saharan 0.06


Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Burusho (HGDP) 23.9
2 Brahmins_from_Uttar_Pradesh (Metspalu) 26.33
3 Cochin_Jews (Behar) 26.43
4 Bnei_Menashe_Jews (Behar) 27.14
5 Kshatriya (Metspalu) 28.72
6 Brahmins_from_Tamil_Nadu (Metspalu) 28.94
7 Indian (Dodecad) 29.45
8 Jatt (Dodecad) 29.95
9 Pathan (HGDP) 30.42
10 Iyer (Dodecad) 30.46
11 Hazara (HGDP) 31.21
12 Tharus (Metspalu) 31.22
13 Iyengar (Dodecad) 31.45
14 Muslim (Metspalu) 31.8
15 Sindhi (HGDP) 32.41
16 Uygur (HGDP) 32.63
17 Dharkars (Metspalu) 32.79
18 Kanjars (Metspalu) 32.84
19 INS30 (SGVP) 32.84
20 Tajiks (Yunusbayev) 33.2

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 68.7% Kshatriya (Metspalu) + 31.3% Mongola (HGDP) @ 4.49
2 68.5% Kshatriya (Metspalu) + 31.5% Tu (HGDP) @ 4.55
3 70.4% Brahmins_from_Uttar_Pradesh (Metspalu) + 29.6% Tu (HGDP) @ 4.61
4 70.6% Brahmins_from_Uttar_Pradesh (Metspalu) + 29.4% Mongola (HGDP) @ 4.7
5 52.9% Uygur (HGDP) + 47.1% Dusadh (Metspalu) @ 5.07
6 71% Brahmins_from_Uttar_Pradesh (Metspalu) + 29% Naxi (HGDP) @ 5.1
7 72.2% Brahmins_from_Uttar_Pradesh (Metspalu) + 27.8% Naga (Metspalu) @ 5.15
8 71.7% Brahmins_from_Uttar_Pradesh (Metspalu) + 28.3% Xibo (HGDP) @ 5.19
9 71.1% Brahmins_from_Uttar_Pradesh (Metspalu) + 28.9% Yizu (HGDP) @ 5.2
10 69.8% Kshatriya (Metspalu) + 30.2% Xibo (HGDP) @ 5.31
11 52.5% Uygur (HGDP) + 47.5% Uttar_Pradesh_Scheduled_Caste (Metspalu) @ 5.35
12 55% Uygur (HGDP) + 45% Piramalai_Kallars (Metspalu) @ 5.45
13 52.9% Uygur (HGDP) + 47.1% Tamil_Nadu_Scheduled_Caste (Metspalu) @ 5.51
14 54.7% Uygur (HGDP) + 45.3% Kol (Metspalu) @ 5.56
15 70.4% Kshatriya (Metspalu) + 29.6% Naga (Metspalu) @ 5.59
16 69.2% Kshatriya (Metspalu) + 30.8% Naxi (HGDP) @ 5.62
17 69.3% Kshatriya (Metspalu) + 30.7% Yizu (HGDP) @ 5.72
18 54.1% Uygur (HGDP) + 45.9% Kurumba (Metspalu) @ 5.77
19 56.9% Uygur (HGDP) + 43.1% SAKILLI (Behar) @ 5.82
20 68.6% Brahmins_from_Tamil_Nadu (Metspalu) + 31.4% Mongola (HGDP) @ 5.85


Bhandari
Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 South_Asian 33.23
2 Gedrosia 25.58
3 East_Asian 16.45
4 North_European 7.69
5 Southeast_Asian 5.36
6 Siberian 5.09
7 Caucasus 4.2
8 Atlantic_Med 1.41
9 Southwest_Asian 0.52
10 Northwest_African 0.47


Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Burusho (HGDP) 21.57
2 Brahmins_from_Uttar_Pradesh (Metspalu) 23.24
3 Cochin_Jews (Behar) 23.67
4 Bnei_Menashe_Jews (Behar) 25.08
5 Kshatriya (Metspalu) 25.63
6 Brahmins_from_Tamil_Nadu (Metspalu) 25.94
7 Indian (Dodecad) 26.52
8 Jatt (Dodecad) 26.97
9 Iyer (Dodecad) 27.53
10 Pathan (HGDP) 27.87
11 Iyengar (Dodecad) 28.6
12 Tharus (Metspalu) 28.69
13 Muslim (Metspalu) 29.34
14 Sindhi (HGDP) 29.56
15 Dharkars (Metspalu) 30.13
16 INS30 (SGVP) 30.23
17 Kanjars (Metspalu) 30.34
18 GIH30 (Dodecad) 30.61
19 Tajiks (Yunusbayev) 32.2
20 Hazara (HGDP) 32.59

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 72% Kshatriya (Metspalu) + 28% Mongola (HGDP) @ 3.85
2 50.6% Uttar_Pradesh_Scheduled_Caste (Metspalu) + 49.4% Uygur (HGDP) @ 3.89
3 50.1% Dusadh (Metspalu) + 49.9% Uygur (HGDP) @ 3.94
4 50.2% Tamil_Nadu_Scheduled_Caste (Metspalu) + 49.8% Uygur (HGDP) @ 3.97
5 74% Brahmins_from_Uttar_Pradesh (Metspalu) + 26% Mongola (HGDP) @ 4.09
6 54.1% Muslim (Metspalu) + 45.9% Uygur (HGDP) @ 4.25
7 54.7% Tharus (Metspalu) + 45.3% Uygur (HGDP) @ 4.27
8 53.3% Kanjars (Metspalu) + 46.7% Uygur (HGDP) @ 4.31
9 53.4% Dharkars (Metspalu) + 46.6% Uygur (HGDP) @ 4.37
10 51.1% Uygur (HGDP) + 48.9% Kurumba (Metspalu) @ 4.4
11 75% Brahmins_from_Uttar_Pradesh (Metspalu) + 25% Xibo (HGDP) @ 4.51
12 73.1% Kshatriya (Metspalu) + 26.9% Xibo (HGDP) @ 4.63
13 52.2% Uygur (HGDP) + 47.8% Piramalai_Kallars (Metspalu) @ 4.64
14 53.4% INS30 (SGVP) + 46.6% Uygur (HGDP) @ 4.67
15 72% Kshatriya (Metspalu) + 28% Tu (HGDP) @ 4.68
16 74% Brahmins_from_Uttar_Pradesh (Metspalu) + 26% Tu (HGDP) @ 4.69
17 51% Velamas (Metspalu) + 49% Uygur (HGDP) @ 4.77
18 51.9% Uygur (HGDP) + 48.1% Kol (Metspalu) @ 4.94
19 75.2% Brahmins_from_Uttar_Pradesh (Metspalu) + 24.8% Hezhen (HGDP) @ 4.96
20 74.6% Brahmins_from_Uttar_Pradesh (Metspalu) + 25.4% Naxi (HGDP) @ 5.25

[harutsafaryan07]

Kurd Feyli from Iran

Gedrosia 25.91
Siberian 2.06
Northwest_African 0.91
Southeast_Asian 0.14
Atlantic_Med 8.43
North_European 5.26
South_Asian 4.63
East_African 0.47
Southwest_Asian14.53
East_Asian 0
Caucasus 37.66
Sub_Saharan 0


Distance to: Feyli
3.51666035 Kurd_Sorani
3.65770420 Lur_Iran
4.05368968 Kurd_Kurmanji
5.12473414 Iranian_Fars
5.56049458 Iranian
5.70280633 Turkmen_Iraq
5.92715783 Zaza
6.06640750 Talysh_Azerbaijan
6.62517924 Azerbaijani_Iran
6.92379231 Kurd_KAZ
8.09069218 Azerbaijani
8.80576516 Azerbaijani_Turkey
9.46899678 Iran_Mazandaran
9.91218442 Turk_Southeast
9.97400622 Iraqi_Baghdad
10.66138359 Iran_Khorasan
11.03889034 Uzbekistan_Jews
11.28422350 Udi_Azerbaijan
12.02277422 Mandean
12.52318650 Turk_East
13.38004858 Turk_Central_East
14.08669585 Turk_South
14.21354284 Assyrian_North
14.37799360 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
14.38502346 Assyrian_South

[Bender1999]

Uyghurs live in China and are very Eastern geographically. Look at the components, he is noticeably more Sinitic than Siberian. The kit was titled Uyghur.
Uzbeks can range from 20 to 50% theoretically, although both extremes would be rare. Uzbekistan is a mixed country, it has Tajik, Kazakh, Karakalpak minorities and assimilation of Muslims might be an ordinary thing over there.

Assimilation of Non-Uzbeks is a modern phenomenon, i think unmixed Uzbeks show between 35-45 % east eurasian. What i know is besides of Tadjiks Uzbeks dont intermix with non uzbeks. Actually we see thank this genetic stuff that the assertion, that Uzbeks are mostly assimilated Tadjiks are simply wrong.
To this „Uyghur“, i don’t think they are different to Uzbeks regarding east eurasian admixture, maybe a bit more. This result looks like a typical Kirgiz result: https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?299877-Kyrgyz-Gedmatch-results/page4. A minority can assimilate into another, bigger minority.

[Leto]

Assimilation of Non-Uzbeks is a modern phenomenon, i think unmixed Uzbeks show between 35-45 % east eurasian. What i know is besides of Tadjiks Uzbeks dont intermix with non uzbeks. Actually we see thank this genetic stuff that the assertion, that Uzbeks are mostly assimilated Tadjiks are simply wrong.
To this „Uyghur“, i don’t think they are different to Uzbeks regarding east eurasian admixture, maybe a bit more. This result looks like a typical Kirgiz result: https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?299877-Kyrgyz-Gedmatch-results/page4. A minority can assimilate into another, bigger minority.
You forgot about Karakalpaks in Northwestern UZ, Kyrgyz in Southwestern Kyrgyzstan and also Kazakhs in Southern KZ.
Anyway, that's a pointless debate. That may or may not be an Uyghur. I think there may be marriages between Hui Chinese and Uyghurs in Ürümqi.

[Thambi]

Jatt Sheoran from western uttar pradesh - highest euro I've seen so far in a south asian.

26.69% euro/atlantic med. pretty much same euro as south asian.

Kit M646186

# Population Percent
1 Gedrosia 35.51
2 South_Asian 26.83
3 North_European 23.77
4 Caucasus 8.2
5 Atlantic_Med 2.92
6 East_Asian 1.51
7 Siberian 1.26

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Jatt (Dodecad) 13.45
2 Pathan (HGDP) 13.97
3 Burusho (HGDP) 15.2
4 Brahmins_from_Uttar_Pradesh (Metspalu) 19.61
5 Sindhi (HGDP) 22.45
6 Tajiks (Yunusbayev) 23
7 Kshatriya (Metspalu) 24.77
8 Bnei_Menashe_Jews (Behar) 27.74
9 Brahmins_from_Tamil_Nadu (Metspalu) 27.83
10 Cochin_Jews (Behar) 27.91
11 Indian (Dodecad) 28.3
12 Iyer (Dodecad) 29.59
13 Iyengar (Dodecad) 29.89
14 Turkmens (Yunusbayev) 32.69
15 Tharus (Metspalu) 33.48
16 GIH30 (Dodecad) 33.49
17 Dharkars (Metspalu) 33.99
18 Muslim (Metspalu) 34.2
19 INS30 (SGVP) 34.28
20 Kanjars (Metspalu) 34.39

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 81.7% Jatt (Dodecad) + 18.3% Russian_B (Behar) @ 3.79
2 80.7% Jatt (Dodecad) + 19.3% Mordovians (Yunusbayev) @ 4.05
3 81.3% Jatt (Dodecad) + 18.7% Ukranians (Yunusbayev) @ 4.21
4 81.4% Jatt (Dodecad) + 18.6% Russian (HGDP) @ 4.3
5 82.2% Jatt (Dodecad) + 17.8% Belorussian (Behar) @ 4.3
6 81.6% Jatt (Dodecad) + 18.4% Mixed_Slav (Dodecad) @ 4.35
7 83% Jatt (Dodecad) + 17% Lithuanian (Dodecad) @ 4.4
8 83.7% Jatt (Dodecad) + 16.3% Lithuanians (Behar) @ 4.64
9 81.9% Jatt (Dodecad) + 18.1% Polish (Dodecad) @ 4.9
10 83.7% Jatt (Dodecad) + 16.3% Finnish (Dodecad) @ 5.19
11 83.4% Jatt (Dodecad) + 16.6% FIN30 (1000Genomes) @ 5.22
12 72.5% Sindhi (HGDP) + 27.5% Russian_B (Behar) @ 5.38
13 80.3% Jatt (Dodecad) + 19.7% Chuvashs (Behar) @ 5.4
14 71.1% Sindhi (HGDP) + 28.9% Mordovians (Yunusbayev) @ 5.66
15 74.1% Sindhi (HGDP) + 25.9% Lithuanian (Dodecad) @ 5.77
16 72.3% Sindhi (HGDP) + 27.7% Russian (Dodecad) @ 5.88
17 74.9% Sindhi (HGDP) + 25.1% Lithuanians (Behar) @ 5.92
18 72% Sindhi (HGDP) + 28% Russian (HGDP) @ 5.96
19 73.1% Sindhi (HGDP) + 26.9% Belorussian (Behar) @ 6.04
20 72.3% Sindhi (HGDP) + 27.7% Mixed_Slav (Dodecad) @ 6.28

[Leto]

Jatt Sheoran from western uttar pradesh - highest euro I've seen so far in a south asian.

26.69% euro/atlantic med. pretty much same euro as south asian.

Kit M646186

Yeah, that's a huge amount of Steppe ancestry. He HAS to be R1a :D

Target: UP_Jatt
Distance: 1.6372% / 1.63721458
28.2 Kalash
26.2 Brahmins_from_Uttar_Pradesh
19.2 Jatt
15.4 Latvian
11.0 Burusho

Basically the most Caucasoid SA pops + 15% additional Baltic.

I think many South Asian references from Dodecad are inaccurate.

[Kaazi]

Jatt Sheoran from western uttar pradesh - highest euro I've seen so far in a south asian.

26.69% euro/atlantic med. pretty much same euro as south asian.

Kit M646186


Ror_37 (Haryana) Kit: EG2459463

Bro, sorry to disturb you. Ror_37 sample seems to have the highest Euro (30.2%) in a native South Asian afaik. Also, the highest one in the Harappaworld calc afaik (21.85% NE-Euro + 5.92% Med).

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Gedrosia 35.32
2 South_Asian 25.45
3 North_European 22.81
4 Atlantic_Med 7.39
5 Caucasus 5.31
6 Siberian 2.92
7 Southwest_Asian 0.57
8 Northwest_African 0.21
9 East_African 0.03


Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Jatt (Dodecad) 13.79
2 Pathan (HGDP) 15.15
3 Burusho (HGDP) 16.76
4 Brahmins_from_Uttar_Pradesh (Metspalu) 20.73
5 Sindhi (HGDP) 22.57
6 Tajiks (Yunusbayev) 23.13
7 Kshatriya (Metspalu) 25.63
8 Cochin_Jews (Behar) 28.37
9 Bnei_Menashe_Jews (Behar) 28.59
10 Brahmins_from_Tamil_Nadu (Metspalu) 28.65
11 Indian (Dodecad) 29.23
12 Iyer (Dodecad) 30.09
13 Iyengar (Dodecad) 30.76
14 Turkmens (Yunusbayev) 33.08
15 GIH30 (Dodecad) 34.46
16 Tharus (Metspalu) 34.57
17 Dharkars (Metspalu) 34.78
18 INS30 (SGVP) 35.23
19 Muslim (Metspalu) 35.31
20 Kanjars (Metspalu) 35.43

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 80.7% Jatt (Dodecad) + 19.3% Polish (Dodecad) @ 3.46
2 80.5% Jatt (Dodecad) + 19.5% Russian (HGDP) @ 3.57
3 80.8% Jatt (Dodecad) + 19.2% Mixed_Slav (Dodecad) @ 3.68
4 80.6% Jatt (Dodecad) + 19.4% Ukranians (Yunusbayev) @ 3.86
5 78.6% Jatt (Dodecad) + 21.4% Hungarians (Behar) @ 3.95
6 81.2% Jatt (Dodecad) + 18.8% Russian_B (Behar) @ 3.96
7 80.1% Jatt (Dodecad) + 19.9% Mordovians (Yunusbayev) @ 3.97
8 82.3% Jatt (Dodecad) + 17.7% FIN30 (1000Genomes) @ 3.97
9 81.6% Jatt (Dodecad) + 18.4% Belorussian (Behar) @ 3.99
10 80% Jatt (Dodecad) + 20% Swedish (Dodecad) @ 4.13
11 82.8% Jatt (Dodecad) + 17.2% Finnish (Dodecad) @ 4.18
12 78.8% Jatt (Dodecad) + 21.2% German (Dodecad) @ 4.32
13 71.3% Sindhi (HGDP) + 28.7% Russian (HGDP) @ 4.43
14 80.1% Jatt (Dodecad) + 19.9% Norwegian (Dodecad) @ 4.44
15 82.6% Jatt (Dodecad) + 17.4% Lithuanian (Dodecad) @ 4.45
16 79.1% Jatt (Dodecad) + 20.9% Chuvashs (Behar) @ 4.53
17 73.5% Sindhi (HGDP) + 26.5% FIN30 (1000Genomes) @ 4.59
18 83.2% Jatt (Dodecad) + 16.8% Lithuanians (Behar) @ 4.67
19 74.1% Sindhi (HGDP) + 25.9% Finnish (Dodecad) @ 4.83
20 72.2% Sindhi (HGDP) + 27.8% Russian_B (Behar) @ 4.85


These are all higher than the above Jatt_Sheoran in this calculator.

Ror_12 (Haryana) 28.60% Euro
Kit: GV1140561
Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Gedrosia 35.35
2 South_Asian 25.2
3 North_European 22.31
4 Caucasus 6.97
5 Atlantic_Med 6.29
6 Siberian 2.85
7 Southwest_Asian 0.91
8 East_Asian 0.13


Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Jatt (Dodecad) 13.43
2 Pathan (HGDP) 13.85
3 Burusho (HGDP) 15.81
4 Brahmins_from_Uttar_Pradesh (Metspalu) 20.72
5 Tajiks (Yunusbayev) 22.01
6 Sindhi (HGDP) 22.15
7 Kshatriya (Metspalu) 25.61
8 Bnei_Menashe_Jews (Behar) 27.59
9 Cochin_Jews (Behar) 28
10 Brahmins_from_Tamil_Nadu (Metspalu) 28.5
11 Indian (Dodecad) 29.09
12 Iyer (Dodecad) 30.12
13 Iyengar (Dodecad) 30.74
14 Turkmens (Yunusbayev) 31.74
15 GIH30 (Dodecad) 34.38
16 Tharus (Metspalu) 34.49
17 Dharkars (Metspalu) 34.84
18 INS30 (SGVP) 35.18
19 Muslim (Metspalu) 35.31
20 Kanjars (Metspalu) 35.47

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 80.9% Jatt (Dodecad) + 19.1% Ukranians (Yunusbayev) @ 3.1
2 81.1% Jatt (Dodecad) + 18.9% Mixed_Slav (Dodecad) @ 3.21
3 80.9% Jatt (Dodecad) + 19.1% Russian (HGDP) @ 3.21
4 81.2% Jatt (Dodecad) + 18.8% Polish (Dodecad) @ 3.27
5 81.5% Jatt (Dodecad) + 18.5% Russian_B (Behar) @ 3.34
6 80.4% Jatt (Dodecad) + 19.6% Mordovians (Yunusbayev) @ 3.36
7 79.1% Jatt (Dodecad) + 20.9% Hungarians (Behar) @ 3.55
8 82% Jatt (Dodecad) + 18% Belorussian (Behar) @ 3.58
9 79.4% Jatt (Dodecad) + 20.6% Chuvashs (Behar) @ 3.75
10 71.7% Sindhi (HGDP) + 28.3% Russian (HGDP) @ 3.76
11 72.5% Sindhi (HGDP) + 27.5% Russian_B (Behar) @ 3.85
12 71% Sindhi (HGDP) + 29% Mordovians (Yunusbayev) @ 3.91
13 72% Sindhi (HGDP) + 28% Mixed_Slav (Dodecad) @ 4.16
14 83% Jatt (Dodecad) + 17% Lithuanian (Dodecad) @ 4.23
15 82.9% Jatt (Dodecad) + 17.1% FIN30 (1000Genomes) @ 4.25
16 73% Sindhi (HGDP) + 27% Belorussian (Behar) @ 4.31
17 83.4% Jatt (Dodecad) + 16.6% Finnish (Dodecad) @ 4.41
18 71.8% Sindhi (HGDP) + 28.2% Ukranians (Yunusbayev) @ 4.44
19 72.2% Sindhi (HGDP) + 27.8% Polish (Dodecad) @ 4.53
20 83.7% Jatt (Dodecad) + 16.3% Lithuanians (Behar) @ 4.58


Ahlawat Jat (Haryana) 27.79% Euro
Kit: M397423
Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Gedrosia 34.88
2 South_Asian 25.39
3 North_European 21.54
4 Caucasus 8.18
5 Atlantic_Med 6.25
6 Siberian 1.59
7 Southeast_Asian 1.56
8 Southwest_Asian 0.6


Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Jatt (Dodecad) 13.4
2 Pathan (HGDP) 13.47
3 Burusho (HGDP) 15.73
4 Brahmins_from_Uttar_Pradesh (Metspalu) 20.45
5 Tajiks (Yunusbayev) 21.93
6 Sindhi (HGDP) 22
7 Kshatriya (Metspalu) 25.32
8 Bnei_Menashe_Jews (Behar) 26.46
9 Cochin_Jews (Behar) 27.22
10 Brahmins_from_Tamil_Nadu (Metspalu) 28.08
11 Indian (Dodecad) 28.72
12 Iyer (Dodecad) 29.81
13 Iyengar (Dodecad) 30.49
14 Turkmens (Yunusbayev) 31.12
15 Tharus (Metspalu) 33.96
16 GIH30 (Dodecad) 34.02
17 Dharkars (Metspalu) 34.51
18 INS30 (SGVP) 34.81
19 Muslim (Metspalu) 34.95
20 Kanjars (Metspalu) 35.16

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 81.1% Jatt (Dodecad) + 18.9% Ukranians (Yunusbayev) @ 3.49
2 79.1% Jatt (Dodecad) + 20.9% Hungarians (Behar) @ 3.56
3 81.5% Jatt (Dodecad) + 18.5% Polish (Dodecad) @ 3.83
4 81.4% Jatt (Dodecad) + 18.6% Mixed_Slav (Dodecad) @ 3.85
5 81.8% Jatt (Dodecad) + 18.2% Russian_B (Behar) @ 3.98
6 82.2% Jatt (Dodecad) + 17.8% Belorussian (Behar) @ 4.14
7 72.7% Sindhi (HGDP) + 27.3% Russian_B (Behar) @ 4.27
8 81.7% Jatt (Dodecad) + 18.3% Russian (Dodecad) @ 4.27
9 80.9% Jatt (Dodecad) + 19.1% Mordovians (Yunusbayev) @ 4.3
10 78.6% Jatt (Dodecad) + 21.4% Romanians (Behar) @ 4.3
11 81.5% Jatt (Dodecad) + 18.5% Russian (HGDP) @ 4.45
12 72% Sindhi (HGDP) + 28% Ukranians (Yunusbayev) @ 4.45
13 72.3% Sindhi (HGDP) + 27.7% Mixed_Slav (Dodecad) @ 4.51
14 79.4% Jatt (Dodecad) + 20.6% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) @ 4.55
15 73.3% Sindhi (HGDP) + 26.7% Belorussian (Behar) @ 4.62
16 78.9% Jatt (Dodecad) + 21.1% Bulgarian (Dodecad) @ 4.62
17 72.6% Sindhi (HGDP) + 27.4% Russian (Dodecad) @ 4.73
18 71.4% Sindhi (HGDP) + 28.6% Mordovians (Yunusbayev) @ 4.73
19 72.4% Sindhi (HGDP) + 27.6% Polish (Dodecad) @ 4.76
20 79.8% Jatt (Dodecad) + 20.2% German (Dodecad) @ 4.9


Ror_49 (Haryana) 27.75% Euro
Kit WD1007289
Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Gedrosia 34.81
2 South_Asian 27.01
3 North_European 21.09
4 Caucasus 7.95
5 Atlantic_Med 6.66
6 Siberian 2.37
7 Southwest_Asian 0.13


Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Jatt (Dodecad) 12.88
2 Pathan (HGDP) 13.76
3 Burusho (HGDP) 15.67
4 Brahmins_from_Uttar_Pradesh (Metspalu) 18.99
5 Sindhi (HGDP) 21.53
6 Tajiks (Yunusbayev) 23.11
7 Kshatriya (Metspalu) 23.88
8 Bnei_Menashe_Jews (Behar) 25.8
9 Cochin_Jews (Behar) 26.17
10 Brahmins_from_Tamil_Nadu (Metspalu) 26.72
11 Indian (Dodecad) 27.34
12 Iyer (Dodecad) 28.41
13 Iyengar (Dodecad) 29.07
14 Turkmens (Yunusbayev) 32.09
15 Tharus (Metspalu) 32.57
16 GIH30 (Dodecad) 32.61
17 Dharkars (Metspalu) 33.01
18 INS30 (SGVP) 33.39
19 Muslim (Metspalu) 33.48
20 Kanjars (Metspalu) 33.69

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 80.4% Jatt (Dodecad) + 19.6% Hungarians (Behar) @ 4.32
2 82.3% Jatt (Dodecad) + 17.7% Ukranians (Yunusbayev) @ 4.38
3 82.6% Jatt (Dodecad) + 17.4% Polish (Dodecad) @ 4.54
4 82.6% Jatt (Dodecad) + 17.4% Mixed_Slav (Dodecad) @ 4.62
5 83% Jatt (Dodecad) + 17% Russian_B (Behar) @ 4.71
6 83.4% Jatt (Dodecad) + 16.6% Belorussian (Behar) @ 4.86
7 79.9% Jatt (Dodecad) + 20.1% Romanians (Behar) @ 4.92
8 82.6% Jatt (Dodecad) + 17.4% Russian (HGDP) @ 4.96
9 82.1% Jatt (Dodecad) + 17.9% Mordovians (Yunusbayev) @ 4.98
10 80.7% Jatt (Dodecad) + 19.3% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) @ 5.1
11 80.2% Jatt (Dodecad) + 19.8% Bulgarian (Dodecad) @ 5.25
12 81% Jatt (Dodecad) + 19% German (Dodecad) @ 5.32
13 81.3% Jatt (Dodecad) + 18.7% Chuvashs (Behar) @ 5.39
14 73.7% Sindhi (HGDP) + 26.3% Russian_B (Behar) @ 5.47
15 84.4% Jatt (Dodecad) + 15.6% Lithuanian (Dodecad) @ 5.47
16 73.3% Sindhi (HGDP) + 26.7% Mixed_Slav (Dodecad) @ 5.67
17 73% Sindhi (HGDP) + 27% Ukranians (Yunusbayev) @ 5.67
18 74.2% Sindhi (HGDP) + 25.8% Belorussian (Behar) @ 5.77
19 73.4% Sindhi (HGDP) + 26.6% Polish (Dodecad) @ 5.8
20 85.1% Jatt (Dodecad) + 14.9% Lithuanians (Behar) @ 5.8


Ahlawat Jat (Haryana) 27.70% Euro
Kit: WQ7700092
Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Gedrosia 34.92
2 South_Asian 25.42
3 North_European 21.5
4 Caucasus 8.24
5 Atlantic_Med 6.2
6 Siberian 1.58
7 Southeast_Asian 1.56
8 Southwest_Asian 0.58


Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Jatt (Dodecad) 13.35
2 Pathan (HGDP) 13.41
3 Burusho (HGDP) 15.68
4 Brahmins_from_Uttar_Pradesh (Metspalu) 20.42
5 Tajiks (Yunusbayev) 21.92
6 Sindhi (HGDP) 21.95
7 Kshatriya (Metspalu) 25.29
8 Bnei_Menashe_Jews (Behar) 26.42
9 Cochin_Jews (Behar) 27.19
10 Brahmins_from_Tamil_Nadu (Metspalu) 28.04
11 Indian (Dodecad) 28.68
12 Iyer (Dodecad) 29.78
13 Iyengar (Dodecad) 30.46
14 Turkmens (Yunusbayev) 31.1
15 Tharus (Metspalu) 33.93
16 GIH30 (Dodecad) 33.98
17 Dharkars (Metspalu) 34.48
18 INS30 (SGVP) 34.78
19 Muslim (Metspalu) 34.92
20 Kanjars (Metspalu) 35.13

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 81.1% Jatt (Dodecad) + 18.9% Ukranians (Yunusbayev) @ 3.5
2 79.2% Jatt (Dodecad) + 20.8% Hungarians (Behar) @ 3.59
3 81.6% Jatt (Dodecad) + 18.4% Polish (Dodecad) @ 3.85
4 81.5% Jatt (Dodecad) + 18.5% Mixed_Slav (Dodecad) @ 3.86
5 81.9% Jatt (Dodecad) + 18.1% Russian_B (Behar) @ 3.99
6 82.3% Jatt (Dodecad) + 17.7% Belorussian (Behar) @ 4.15
7 72.8% Sindhi (HGDP) + 27.2% Russian_B (Behar) @ 4.28
8 81.8% Jatt (Dodecad) + 18.2% Russian (Dodecad) @ 4.28
9 78.7% Jatt (Dodecad) + 21.3% Romanians (Behar) @ 4.28
10 81% Jatt (Dodecad) + 19% Mordovians (Yunusbayev) @ 4.3
11 81.6% Jatt (Dodecad) + 18.4% Russian (HGDP) @ 4.46
12 72% Sindhi (HGDP) + 28% Ukranians (Yunusbayev) @ 4.46
13 79.5% Jatt (Dodecad) + 20.5% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) @ 4.52
14 72.4% Sindhi (HGDP) + 27.6% Mixed_Slav (Dodecad) @ 4.53
15 78.9% Jatt (Dodecad) + 21.1% Bulgarian (Dodecad) @ 4.6
16 73.3% Sindhi (HGDP) + 26.7% Belorussian (Behar) @ 4.64
17 71.5% Sindhi (HGDP) + 28.5% Mordovians (Yunusbayev) @ 4.74
18 72.6% Sindhi (HGDP) + 27.4% Russian (Dodecad) @ 4.75
19 72.5% Sindhi (HGDP) + 27.5% Polish (Dodecad) @ 4.8
20 83.4% Jatt (Dodecad) + 16.6% Lithuanian (Dodecad) @ 4.91


Singh Jat (Haryana) 26.82% Euro
Kit: M611023
Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Gedrosia 35.43
2 South_Asian 26.19
3 North_European 20.97
4 Caucasus 9.31
5 Atlantic_Med 5.85
6 Siberian 1.64
7 Southwest_Asian 0.61


Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Pathan (HGDP) 12.51
2 Jatt (Dodecad) 12.64
3 Burusho (HGDP) 15.04
4 Brahmins_from_Uttar_Pradesh (Metspalu) 19.69
5 Sindhi (HGDP) 21.18
6 Tajiks (Yunusbayev) 22.1
7 Kshatriya (Metspalu) 24.55
8 Bnei_Menashe_Jews (Behar) 25.49
9 Cochin_Jews (Behar) 26.52
10 Brahmins_from_Tamil_Nadu (Metspalu) 27.24
11 Indian (Dodecad) 27.84
12 Iyer (Dodecad) 29.04
13 Iyengar (Dodecad) 29.69
14 Turkmens (Yunusbayev) 30.99
15 GIH30 (Dodecad) 33.15
16 Tharus (Metspalu) 33.24
17 Dharkars (Metspalu) 33.77
18 INS30 (SGVP) 34.01
19 Muslim (Metspalu) 34.2
20 Kanjars (Metspalu) 34.42

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 82.3% Jatt (Dodecad) + 17.7% Ukranians (Yunusbayev) @ 3.74
2 79.6% Jatt (Dodecad) + 20.4% Romanians (Behar) @ 3.77
3 80.5% Jatt (Dodecad) + 19.5% Hungarians (Behar) @ 3.89
4 80.4% Jatt (Dodecad) + 19.6% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) @ 3.93
5 79.9% Jatt (Dodecad) + 20.1% Bulgarian (Dodecad) @ 4.02
6 82.7% Jatt (Dodecad) + 17.3% Mixed_Slav (Dodecad) @ 4.19
7 83.1% Jatt (Dodecad) + 16.9% Russian_B (Behar) @ 4.24
8 82.8% Jatt (Dodecad) + 17.2% Polish (Dodecad) @ 4.24
9 83.5% Jatt (Dodecad) + 16.5% Belorussian (Behar) @ 4.42
10 73.9% Sindhi (HGDP) + 26.1% Russian_B (Behar) @ 4.53
11 83.1% Jatt (Dodecad) + 16.9% Russian (Dodecad) @ 4.58
12 82.3% Jatt (Dodecad) + 17.7% Mordovians (Yunusbayev) @ 4.59
13 73.1% Sindhi (HGDP) + 26.9% Ukranians (Yunusbayev) @ 4.6
14 82.9% Jatt (Dodecad) + 17.1% Russian (HGDP) @ 4.78
15 73.5% Sindhi (HGDP) + 26.5% Mixed_Slav (Dodecad) @ 4.83
16 74.4% Sindhi (HGDP) + 25.6% Belorussian (Behar) @ 4.91
17 72.6% Sindhi (HGDP) + 27.4% Mordovians (Yunusbayev) @ 5.05
18 73.7% Sindhi (HGDP) + 26.3% Russian (Dodecad) @ 5.06
19 84.6% Jatt (Dodecad) + 15.4% Lithuanian (Dodecad) @ 5.15
20 73.6% Sindhi (HGDP) + 26.4% Polish (Dodecad) @ 5.16

[Kyp]

Yörük (Bayat tribe), Afyonkarahisar, Turkey

Gedrosian: 16.82
Siberian: 5.48
Northwest_African: 0.84
Southeast_Asian: 0.00
Atlantic_Med: 12.89
North_European: 7.60
South_Asian 2.03
East_African 0.00
Southwest_Asian: 9.47
East_Asian: 6.70
Caucasian: 38.08
Sub-Saharan: 0.00


Distance to: Bayat_Yörük
3.97553770 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
4.25451525 Turk_South
4.63586022 Turk_Anatolia
5.03398451 Turk_Central_East
5.20285499 Turk_Central_West
6.42896570 Turk_Southwest
6.44388858 Turk_Southeast
7.24575738 Turk_West_BlackSea
7.26179041 Azerbaijani_Turkey
7.27615283 Yoruk
7.77628446 Azerbaijani
9.10399363 Azerbaijani_Iran
9.27804936 Turk_Northwest
10.81360717 Turk_East
12.28290275 Kurd_Kurmanji
12.38468813 Turkmen_Iraq
12.61051545 Zaza
13.18493079 Udi_Azerbaijan
13.85841982 Talysh_Azerbaijan
14.17972496 Kurd_Sorani
14.84211912 Iraqi_Baghdad
15.32161871 Karachay
15.35069380 Iran_Khorasan
15.48620354 Armenian_East
15.58587822 Azerbaijani_Dagestan

Target: Bayat_Yörük
Distance: 1.9748% / 1.97477296 | ADC: 0.25x
73.4 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
9.8 Azerbaijani_Turkey
7.8 Yoruk
3.8 Lur_Iran
2.6 Sardinian
1.4 Balochi

[Thambi]

Ror_37 (Haryana) Kit: EG2459463

Bro, sorry to disturb you. Ror_37 sample seems to have the highest Euro (30.2%) in a native South Asian afaik. Also, the highest one in the Harappaworld calc afaik (21.85% NE-Euro + 5.92% Med).

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Gedrosia 35.32
2 South_Asian 25.45
3 North_European 22.81
4 Atlantic_Med 7.39
5 Caucasus 5.31
6 Siberian 2.92
7 Southwest_Asian 0.57
8 Northwest_African 0.21
9 East_African 0.03


Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Jatt (Dodecad) 13.79
2 Pathan (HGDP) 15.15
3 Burusho (HGDP) 16.76
4 Brahmins_from_Uttar_Pradesh (Metspalu) 20.73
5 Sindhi (HGDP) 22.57
6 Tajiks (Yunusbayev) 23.13
7 Kshatriya (Metspalu) 25.63
8 Cochin_Jews (Behar) 28.37
9 Bnei_Menashe_Jews (Behar) 28.59
10 Brahmins_from_Tamil_Nadu (Metspalu) 28.65
11 Indian (Dodecad) 29.23
12 Iyer (Dodecad) 30.09
13 Iyengar (Dodecad) 30.76
14 Turkmens (Yunusbayev) 33.08
15 GIH30 (Dodecad) 34.46
16 Tharus (Metspalu) 34.57
17 Dharkars (Metspalu) 34.78
18 INS30 (SGVP) 35.23
19 Muslim (Metspalu) 35.31
20 Kanjars (Metspalu) 35.43

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 80.7% Jatt (Dodecad) + 19.3% Polish (Dodecad) @ 3.46
2 80.5% Jatt (Dodecad) + 19.5% Russian (HGDP) @ 3.57
3 80.8% Jatt (Dodecad) + 19.2% Mixed_Slav (Dodecad) @ 3.68
4 80.6% Jatt (Dodecad) + 19.4% Ukranians (Yunusbayev) @ 3.86
5 78.6% Jatt (Dodecad) + 21.4% Hungarians (Behar) @ 3.95
6 81.2% Jatt (Dodecad) + 18.8% Russian_B (Behar) @ 3.96
7 80.1% Jatt (Dodecad) + 19.9% Mordovians (Yunusbayev) @ 3.97
8 82.3% Jatt (Dodecad) + 17.7% FIN30 (1000Genomes) @ 3.97
9 81.6% Jatt (Dodecad) + 18.4% Belorussian (Behar) @ 3.99
10 80% Jatt (Dodecad) + 20% Swedish (Dodecad) @ 4.13
11 82.8% Jatt (Dodecad) + 17.2% Finnish (Dodecad) @ 4.18
12 78.8% Jatt (Dodecad) + 21.2% German (Dodecad) @ 4.32
13 71.3% Sindhi (HGDP) + 28.7% Russian (HGDP) @ 4.43
14 80.1% Jatt (Dodecad) + 19.9% Norwegian (Dodecad) @ 4.44
15 82.6% Jatt (Dodecad) + 17.4% Lithuanian (Dodecad) @ 4.45
16 79.1% Jatt (Dodecad) + 20.9% Chuvashs (Behar) @ 4.53
17 73.5% Sindhi (HGDP) + 26.5% FIN30 (1000Genomes) @ 4.59
18 83.2% Jatt (Dodecad) + 16.8% Lithuanians (Behar) @ 4.67
19 74.1% Sindhi (HGDP) + 25.9% Finnish (Dodecad) @ 4.83
20 72.2% Sindhi (HGDP) + 27.8% Russian_B (Behar) @ 4.85


These are all higher than the above Jatt_Sheoran in this calculator.

Ror_12 (Haryana) 28.60% Euro
Kit: GV1140561
Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Gedrosia 35.35
2 South_Asian 25.2
3 North_European 22.31
4 Caucasus 6.97
5 Atlantic_Med 6.29
6 Siberian 2.85
7 Southwest_Asian 0.91
8 East_Asian 0.13


Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Jatt (Dodecad) 13.43
2 Pathan (HGDP) 13.85
3 Burusho (HGDP) 15.81
4 Brahmins_from_Uttar_Pradesh (Metspalu) 20.72
5 Tajiks (Yunusbayev) 22.01
6 Sindhi (HGDP) 22.15
7 Kshatriya (Metspalu) 25.61
8 Bnei_Menashe_Jews (Behar) 27.59
9 Cochin_Jews (Behar) 28
10 Brahmins_from_Tamil_Nadu (Metspalu) 28.5
11 Indian (Dodecad) 29.09
12 Iyer (Dodecad) 30.12
13 Iyengar (Dodecad) 30.74
14 Turkmens (Yunusbayev) 31.74
15 GIH30 (Dodecad) 34.38
16 Tharus (Metspalu) 34.49
17 Dharkars (Metspalu) 34.84
18 INS30 (SGVP) 35.18
19 Muslim (Metspalu) 35.31
20 Kanjars (Metspalu) 35.47

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 80.9% Jatt (Dodecad) + 19.1% Ukranians (Yunusbayev) @ 3.1
2 81.1% Jatt (Dodecad) + 18.9% Mixed_Slav (Dodecad) @ 3.21
3 80.9% Jatt (Dodecad) + 19.1% Russian (HGDP) @ 3.21
4 81.2% Jatt (Dodecad) + 18.8% Polish (Dodecad) @ 3.27
5 81.5% Jatt (Dodecad) + 18.5% Russian_B (Behar) @ 3.34
6 80.4% Jatt (Dodecad) + 19.6% Mordovians (Yunusbayev) @ 3.36
7 79.1% Jatt (Dodecad) + 20.9% Hungarians (Behar) @ 3.55
8 82% Jatt (Dodecad) + 18% Belorussian (Behar) @ 3.58
9 79.4% Jatt (Dodecad) + 20.6% Chuvashs (Behar) @ 3.75
10 71.7% Sindhi (HGDP) + 28.3% Russian (HGDP) @ 3.76
11 72.5% Sindhi (HGDP) + 27.5% Russian_B (Behar) @ 3.85
12 71% Sindhi (HGDP) + 29% Mordovians (Yunusbayev) @ 3.91
13 72% Sindhi (HGDP) + 28% Mixed_Slav (Dodecad) @ 4.16
14 83% Jatt (Dodecad) + 17% Lithuanian (Dodecad) @ 4.23
15 82.9% Jatt (Dodecad) + 17.1% FIN30 (1000Genomes) @ 4.25
16 73% Sindhi (HGDP) + 27% Belorussian (Behar) @ 4.31
17 83.4% Jatt (Dodecad) + 16.6% Finnish (Dodecad) @ 4.41
18 71.8% Sindhi (HGDP) + 28.2% Ukranians (Yunusbayev) @ 4.44
19 72.2% Sindhi (HGDP) + 27.8% Polish (Dodecad) @ 4.53
20 83.7% Jatt (Dodecad) + 16.3% Lithuanians (Behar) @ 4.58


Ahlawat Jat (Haryana) 27.79% Euro
Kit: M397423
Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Gedrosia 34.88
2 South_Asian 25.39
3 North_European 21.54
4 Caucasus 8.18
5 Atlantic_Med 6.25
6 Siberian 1.59
7 Southeast_Asian 1.56
8 Southwest_Asian 0.6


Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Jatt (Dodecad) 13.4
2 Pathan (HGDP) 13.47
3 Burusho (HGDP) 15.73
4 Brahmins_from_Uttar_Pradesh (Metspalu) 20.45
5 Tajiks (Yunusbayev) 21.93
6 Sindhi (HGDP) 22
7 Kshatriya (Metspalu) 25.32
8 Bnei_Menashe_Jews (Behar) 26.46
9 Cochin_Jews (Behar) 27.22
10 Brahmins_from_Tamil_Nadu (Metspalu) 28.08
11 Indian (Dodecad) 28.72
12 Iyer (Dodecad) 29.81
13 Iyengar (Dodecad) 30.49
14 Turkmens (Yunusbayev) 31.12
15 Tharus (Metspalu) 33.96
16 GIH30 (Dodecad) 34.02
17 Dharkars (Metspalu) 34.51
18 INS30 (SGVP) 34.81
19 Muslim (Metspalu) 34.95
20 Kanjars (Metspalu) 35.16

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 81.1% Jatt (Dodecad) + 18.9% Ukranians (Yunusbayev) @ 3.49
2 79.1% Jatt (Dodecad) + 20.9% Hungarians (Behar) @ 3.56
3 81.5% Jatt (Dodecad) + 18.5% Polish (Dodecad) @ 3.83
4 81.4% Jatt (Dodecad) + 18.6% Mixed_Slav (Dodecad) @ 3.85
5 81.8% Jatt (Dodecad) + 18.2% Russian_B (Behar) @ 3.98
6 82.2% Jatt (Dodecad) + 17.8% Belorussian (Behar) @ 4.14
7 72.7% Sindhi (HGDP) + 27.3% Russian_B (Behar) @ 4.27
8 81.7% Jatt (Dodecad) + 18.3% Russian (Dodecad) @ 4.27
9 80.9% Jatt (Dodecad) + 19.1% Mordovians (Yunusbayev) @ 4.3
10 78.6% Jatt (Dodecad) + 21.4% Romanians (Behar) @ 4.3
11 81.5% Jatt (Dodecad) + 18.5% Russian (HGDP) @ 4.45
12 72% Sindhi (HGDP) + 28% Ukranians (Yunusbayev) @ 4.45
13 72.3% Sindhi (HGDP) + 27.7% Mixed_Slav (Dodecad) @ 4.51
14 79.4% Jatt (Dodecad) + 20.6% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) @ 4.55
15 73.3% Sindhi (HGDP) + 26.7% Belorussian (Behar) @ 4.62
16 78.9% Jatt (Dodecad) + 21.1% Bulgarian (Dodecad) @ 4.62
17 72.6% Sindhi (HGDP) + 27.4% Russian (Dodecad) @ 4.73
18 71.4% Sindhi (HGDP) + 28.6% Mordovians (Yunusbayev) @ 4.73
19 72.4% Sindhi (HGDP) + 27.6% Polish (Dodecad) @ 4.76
20 79.8% Jatt (Dodecad) + 20.2% German (Dodecad) @ 4.9


Ror_49 (Haryana) 27.75% Euro
Kit WD1007289
Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Gedrosia 34.81
2 South_Asian 27.01
3 North_European 21.09
4 Caucasus 7.95
5 Atlantic_Med 6.66
6 Siberian 2.37
7 Southwest_Asian 0.13


Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Jatt (Dodecad) 12.88
2 Pathan (HGDP) 13.76
3 Burusho (HGDP) 15.67
4 Brahmins_from_Uttar_Pradesh (Metspalu) 18.99
5 Sindhi (HGDP) 21.53
6 Tajiks (Yunusbayev) 23.11
7 Kshatriya (Metspalu) 23.88
8 Bnei_Menashe_Jews (Behar) 25.8
9 Cochin_Jews (Behar) 26.17
10 Brahmins_from_Tamil_Nadu (Metspalu) 26.72
11 Indian (Dodecad) 27.34
12 Iyer (Dodecad) 28.41
13 Iyengar (Dodecad) 29.07
14 Turkmens (Yunusbayev) 32.09
15 Tharus (Metspalu) 32.57
16 GIH30 (Dodecad) 32.61
17 Dharkars (Metspalu) 33.01
18 INS30 (SGVP) 33.39
19 Muslim (Metspalu) 33.48
20 Kanjars (Metspalu) 33.69

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 80.4% Jatt (Dodecad) + 19.6% Hungarians (Behar) @ 4.32
2 82.3% Jatt (Dodecad) + 17.7% Ukranians (Yunusbayev) @ 4.38
3 82.6% Jatt (Dodecad) + 17.4% Polish (Dodecad) @ 4.54
4 82.6% Jatt (Dodecad) + 17.4% Mixed_Slav (Dodecad) @ 4.62
5 83% Jatt (Dodecad) + 17% Russian_B (Behar) @ 4.71
6 83.4% Jatt (Dodecad) + 16.6% Belorussian (Behar) @ 4.86
7 79.9% Jatt (Dodecad) + 20.1% Romanians (Behar) @ 4.92
8 82.6% Jatt (Dodecad) + 17.4% Russian (HGDP) @ 4.96
9 82.1% Jatt (Dodecad) + 17.9% Mordovians (Yunusbayev) @ 4.98
10 80.7% Jatt (Dodecad) + 19.3% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) @ 5.1
11 80.2% Jatt (Dodecad) + 19.8% Bulgarian (Dodecad) @ 5.25
12 81% Jatt (Dodecad) + 19% German (Dodecad) @ 5.32
13 81.3% Jatt (Dodecad) + 18.7% Chuvashs (Behar) @ 5.39
14 73.7% Sindhi (HGDP) + 26.3% Russian_B (Behar) @ 5.47
15 84.4% Jatt (Dodecad) + 15.6% Lithuanian (Dodecad) @ 5.47
16 73.3% Sindhi (HGDP) + 26.7% Mixed_Slav (Dodecad) @ 5.67
17 73% Sindhi (HGDP) + 27% Ukranians (Yunusbayev) @ 5.67
18 74.2% Sindhi (HGDP) + 25.8% Belorussian (Behar) @ 5.77
19 73.4% Sindhi (HGDP) + 26.6% Polish (Dodecad) @ 5.8
20 85.1% Jatt (Dodecad) + 14.9% Lithuanians (Behar) @ 5.8


Ahlawat Jat (Haryana) 27.70% Euro
Kit: WQ7700092
Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Gedrosia 34.92
2 South_Asian 25.42
3 North_European 21.5
4 Caucasus 8.24
5 Atlantic_Med 6.2
6 Siberian 1.58
7 Southeast_Asian 1.56
8 Southwest_Asian 0.58


Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Jatt (Dodecad) 13.35
2 Pathan (HGDP) 13.41
3 Burusho (HGDP) 15.68
4 Brahmins_from_Uttar_Pradesh (Metspalu) 20.42
5 Tajiks (Yunusbayev) 21.92
6 Sindhi (HGDP) 21.95
7 Kshatriya (Metspalu) 25.29
8 Bnei_Menashe_Jews (Behar) 26.42
9 Cochin_Jews (Behar) 27.19
10 Brahmins_from_Tamil_Nadu (Metspalu) 28.04
11 Indian (Dodecad) 28.68
12 Iyer (Dodecad) 29.78
13 Iyengar (Dodecad) 30.46
14 Turkmens (Yunusbayev) 31.1
15 Tharus (Metspalu) 33.93
16 GIH30 (Dodecad) 33.98
17 Dharkars (Metspalu) 34.48
18 INS30 (SGVP) 34.78
19 Muslim (Metspalu) 34.92
20 Kanjars (Metspalu) 35.13

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 81.1% Jatt (Dodecad) + 18.9% Ukranians (Yunusbayev) @ 3.5
2 79.2% Jatt (Dodecad) + 20.8% Hungarians (Behar) @ 3.59
3 81.6% Jatt (Dodecad) + 18.4% Polish (Dodecad) @ 3.85
4 81.5% Jatt (Dodecad) + 18.5% Mixed_Slav (Dodecad) @ 3.86
5 81.9% Jatt (Dodecad) + 18.1% Russian_B (Behar) @ 3.99
6 82.3% Jatt (Dodecad) + 17.7% Belorussian (Behar) @ 4.15
7 72.8% Sindhi (HGDP) + 27.2% Russian_B (Behar) @ 4.28
8 81.8% Jatt (Dodecad) + 18.2% Russian (Dodecad) @ 4.28
9 78.7% Jatt (Dodecad) + 21.3% Romanians (Behar) @ 4.28
10 81% Jatt (Dodecad) + 19% Mordovians (Yunusbayev) @ 4.3
11 81.6% Jatt (Dodecad) + 18.4% Russian (HGDP) @ 4.46
12 72% Sindhi (HGDP) + 28% Ukranians (Yunusbayev) @ 4.46
13 79.5% Jatt (Dodecad) + 20.5% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) @ 4.52
14 72.4% Sindhi (HGDP) + 27.6% Mixed_Slav (Dodecad) @ 4.53
15 78.9% Jatt (Dodecad) + 21.1% Bulgarian (Dodecad) @ 4.6
16 73.3% Sindhi (HGDP) + 26.7% Belorussian (Behar) @ 4.64
17 71.5% Sindhi (HGDP) + 28.5% Mordovians (Yunusbayev) @ 4.74
18 72.6% Sindhi (HGDP) + 27.4% Russian (Dodecad) @ 4.75
19 72.5% Sindhi (HGDP) + 27.5% Polish (Dodecad) @ 4.8
20 83.4% Jatt (Dodecad) + 16.6% Lithuanian (Dodecad) @ 4.91


Singh Jat (Haryana) 26.82% Euro
Kit: M611023
Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Gedrosia 35.43
2 South_Asian 26.19
3 North_European 20.97
4 Caucasus 9.31
5 Atlantic_Med 5.85
6 Siberian 1.64
7 Southwest_Asian 0.61


Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Pathan (HGDP) 12.51
2 Jatt (Dodecad) 12.64
3 Burusho (HGDP) 15.04
4 Brahmins_from_Uttar_Pradesh (Metspalu) 19.69
5 Sindhi (HGDP) 21.18
6 Tajiks (Yunusbayev) 22.1
7 Kshatriya (Metspalu) 24.55
8 Bnei_Menashe_Jews (Behar) 25.49
9 Cochin_Jews (Behar) 26.52
10 Brahmins_from_Tamil_Nadu (Metspalu) 27.24
11 Indian (Dodecad) 27.84
12 Iyer (Dodecad) 29.04
13 Iyengar (Dodecad) 29.69
14 Turkmens (Yunusbayev) 30.99
15 GIH30 (Dodecad) 33.15
16 Tharus (Metspalu) 33.24
17 Dharkars (Metspalu) 33.77
18 INS30 (SGVP) 34.01
19 Muslim (Metspalu) 34.2
20 Kanjars (Metspalu) 34.42

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 82.3% Jatt (Dodecad) + 17.7% Ukranians (Yunusbayev) @ 3.74
2 79.6% Jatt (Dodecad) + 20.4% Romanians (Behar) @ 3.77
3 80.5% Jatt (Dodecad) + 19.5% Hungarians (Behar) @ 3.89
4 80.4% Jatt (Dodecad) + 19.6% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) @ 3.93
5 79.9% Jatt (Dodecad) + 20.1% Bulgarian (Dodecad) @ 4.02
6 82.7% Jatt (Dodecad) + 17.3% Mixed_Slav (Dodecad) @ 4.19
7 83.1% Jatt (Dodecad) + 16.9% Russian_B (Behar) @ 4.24
8 82.8% Jatt (Dodecad) + 17.2% Polish (Dodecad) @ 4.24
9 83.5% Jatt (Dodecad) + 16.5% Belorussian (Behar) @ 4.42
10 73.9% Sindhi (HGDP) + 26.1% Russian_B (Behar) @ 4.53
11 83.1% Jatt (Dodecad) + 16.9% Russian (Dodecad) @ 4.58
12 82.3% Jatt (Dodecad) + 17.7% Mordovians (Yunusbayev) @ 4.59
13 73.1% Sindhi (HGDP) + 26.9% Ukranians (Yunusbayev) @ 4.6
14 82.9% Jatt (Dodecad) + 17.1% Russian (HGDP) @ 4.78
15 73.5% Sindhi (HGDP) + 26.5% Mixed_Slav (Dodecad) @ 4.83
16 74.4% Sindhi (HGDP) + 25.6% Belorussian (Behar) @ 4.91
17 72.6% Sindhi (HGDP) + 27.4% Mordovians (Yunusbayev) @ 5.05
18 73.7% Sindhi (HGDP) + 26.3% Russian (Dodecad) @ 5.06
19 84.6% Jatt (Dodecad) + 15.4% Lithuanian (Dodecad) @ 5.15
20 73.6% Sindhi (HGDP) + 26.4% Polish (Dodecad) @ 5.16


thanks for posting bro. im tbh really shocked that euro goes that high in that region.

[Leto]

thanks for posting bro. im tbh really shocked that euro goes that high in that region.
If such people can exist in India today, then it's possible for Buddha to have been white 2,500 years ago :cool:

[ModernMaskil]

Not sure if this thread applies to me, but nonetheless:

Gedrosia 6.11 Pct
Siberian 1.35 Pct
Northwest_African 6.00 Pct
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 24.34 Pct
North_European 15.49 Pct
South_Asian -
East_African 0.30 Pct
Southwest_Asian 14.31 Pct
East_Asian 0.24 Pct
Caucasus 31.86 Pct
Sub_Saharan -

[Thambi]

If such people can exist in India today, then it's possible for Buddha to have been white 2,500 years ago :cool:

steppe folks were already half chg when they entered the subcontinent. at most they would have been around 50% ehg/euro.

[Leto]

steppe folks were already half chg when they entered the subcontinent. at most they would have been around 50% ehg/euro.
Yeah but he was described as white in some ancient sources.

[Thambi]

Yeah but he was described as white in some ancient sources.

i doubt it cause by iron age south asians were already mixed as it is and the iron age was before 5-6th century bc when buddha was born. he could have been quite euro/steppe influenced not denying that. he more or less would have been like the ror/jatt samples. and he was a kshatriya rather than a brahmin and they're more south asian shifted.

[NPKTO]

steppe folks were already half chg when they entered the subcontinent. at most they would have been around 50% ehg/euro.
CHG was part of Steppe. Anyways, neither Sintashta nor Yamnaya would’ve harbored so much CHG. Most people now believe it was Sintashta that impacted most S Asians. This is Dodecad for Sintashta:


# Population Percent
1 North_European 53.72
2 Atlantic_Med 26.36
3 Gedrosia 16.62
4 Caucasus 1.83
5 Sub_Saharan 0.92
6 Siberian 0.44
7 Northwest_African 0.1

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Swedish (Dodecad) 10.68
2 Norwegian (Dodecad) 12.04
3 German (Dodecad) 13.81
4 Dutch (Dodecad) 15.6
5 Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) 15.84
6 Argyll (1000Genomes) 16.31
7 Orkney (1000Genomes) 16.62
8 CEU30 (1000Genomes) 17.29
9 Orcadian (HGDP) 17.36
10 English (Dodecad) 17.46
11 Irish (Dodecad) 17.82
12 British_Isles (Dodecad) 18.03
13 Kent (1000Genomes) 18.07
14 Hungarians (Behar) 18.08
15 British (Dodecad) 19.17
16 Cornwall (1000Genomes) 19.73
17 Polish (Dodecad) 20.23
18 Mixed_Slav (Dodecad) 22.26
19 Russian (Dodecad) 23.23
20 Ukranians (Yunusbayev) 23.39

[Leto]

CHG was part of Steppe. Anyways, neither Sintashta nor Yamnaya would’ve harbored so much CHG. Most people now believe it was Sintashta that impacted most S Asians. This is Dodecad for Sintashta:


# Population Percent
1 North_European 53.72
2 Atlantic_Med 26.36
3 Gedrosia 16.62
4 Caucasus 1.83
5 Sub_Saharan 0.92
6 Siberian 0.44
7 Northwest_African 0.1

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Swedish (Dodecad) 10.68
2 Norwegian (Dodecad) 12.04
3 German (Dodecad) 13.81
4 Dutch (Dodecad) 15.6
5 Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) 15.84
6 Argyll (1000Genomes) 16.31
7 Orkney (1000Genomes) 16.62
8 CEU30 (1000Genomes) 17.29
9 Orcadian (HGDP) 17.36
10 English (Dodecad) 17.46
11 Irish (Dodecad) 17.82
12 British_Isles (Dodecad) 18.03
13 Kent (1000Genomes) 18.07
14 Hungarians (Behar) 18.08
15 British (Dodecad) 19.17
16 Cornwall (1000Genomes) 19.73
17 Polish (Dodecad) 20.23
18 Mixed_Slav (Dodecad) 22.26
19 Russian (Dodecad) 23.23
20 Ukranians (Yunusbayev) 23.39
If the Sintashta had more Atlanto-Med than Russians (Russians are ca. 20% on average), why is it so fucking low in Afghanistan and Pakistan? One quarter Sintashta should logically translate into at least 5-7% AM but most Afghans are barely 1-2%.

[Leto]

i doubt it cause by iron age south asians were already mixed as it is and the iron age was before 5-6th century bc when buddha was born. he could have been quite euro/steppe influenced not denying that. he more or less would have been like the ror/jatt samples. and he was a kshatriya rather than a brahmin and they're more south asian shifted.
Well, he could have had blue eyes for example. I doubt he looked like a fat Bangladeshi either. Just like people in Israel at the time of Christ may not have looked like modern Egyptians and Gaza Palestinians.

[Thambi]

CHG was part of Steppe. Anyways, neither Sintashta nor Yamnaya would’ve harbored so much CHG. Most people now believe it was Sintashta that impacted most S Asians. This is Dodecad for Sintashta:


# Population Percent
1 North_European 53.72
2 Atlantic_Med 26.36
3 Gedrosia 16.62
4 Caucasus 1.83
5 Sub_Saharan 0.92
6 Siberian 0.44
7 Northwest_African 0.1

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Swedish (Dodecad) 10.68
2 Norwegian (Dodecad) 12.04
3 German (Dodecad) 13.81
4 Dutch (Dodecad) 15.6
5 Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) 15.84
6 Argyll (1000Genomes) 16.31
7 Orkney (1000Genomes) 16.62
8 CEU30 (1000Genomes) 17.29
9 Orcadian (HGDP) 17.36
10 English (Dodecad) 17.46
11 Irish (Dodecad) 17.82
12 British_Isles (Dodecad) 18.03
13 Kent (1000Genomes) 18.07
14 Hungarians (Behar) 18.08
15 British (Dodecad) 19.17
16 Cornwall (1000Genomes) 19.73
17 Polish (Dodecad) 20.23
18 Mixed_Slav (Dodecad) 22.26
19 Russian (Dodecad) 23.23
20 Ukranians (Yunusbayev) 23.39

steppe mlba folks show half Iran_n/anf on the central and south asian paper. thats what i was basing it on of. Chg/iran n looks in line with the the gedrosian in that sintashta sample but im not sure if the anf just went into euro.
https://www.biorxiv.org/content/biorxiv/early/2018/03/31/292581/F3.large.jpg?width=800&height=600&carousel=1

[NPKTO]

If the Sintashta had more Atlanto-Med than Russians (Russians are ca. 20% on average), why is it so fucking low in Afghanistan and Pakistan? One quarter Sintashta should logically translate into at least 5-7% AM but most Afghans are barely 1-2%.
Some of their Med could be hidden in Caucasus component. Also, it’s possible Afghans have more Yamnaya, which was CHG rich instead of EEF rich Sintashta.

[NPKTO]

steppe mlba folks show half Iran_n/anf on the central and south asian paper. thats what i was basing it on of. Chg/iran n looks in line with the the gedrosian in that sintashta sample but im not sure if the anf just went into euro.
https://www.biorxiv.org/content/biorxiv/early/2018/03/31/292581/F3.large.jpg?width=800&height=600&carousel=1
ANF is modern day European component as well. When ANF mixed with some WHG people, it became EEF. EEF peaks in groups like Sardinians today. Iran N and CHG are part of same cline. Like their Paleolithic composition is almost similar. Iran N shows slight AASI shift, while CHG shows slight EHG shift. But it likely was CHG that contributed to Steppe.

[Kyp]

Adana (Yörük) + Gaziantep (Turkmen)

Gedrosian: 15.18
Siberian: 5.28
Northwest_African: 2.55
Southeast_Asian: 0.00
Atlantic_Med: 11.79
North_European: 7.61
South_Asian 3.00
East_African 0.00
Southwest_Asian: 11.79
East_Asian: 5.64
Caucasian: 36.03
SSA: 1.14

Distance to: AdanaYörük_AntepTurkmen
3.78449468 Turk_South
4.71859089 Turk_Anatolia
4.98128497 Turk_Central_West
5.40854879 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
5.69512950 Turk_Central_East
5.76263828 Turk_Southeast
5.98625927 Turk_Southwest
6.96375617 Yoruk
7.18635513 Turk_West_BlackSea
8.05994417 Azerbaijani
8.27479909 Azerbaijani_Turkey
8.68895276 Turk_Northwest
9.37063498 Azerbaijani_Iran
11.66364437 Turkmen_Iraq
11.97500731 Turk_East
12.41192975 Kurd_Kurmanji
12.65387688 Iraqi_Baghdad
13.20356770 Zaza
13.54431615 Kurd_Sorani
14.43216200 Udi_Azerbaijan
14.59032213 Talysh_Azerbaijan
14.77119494 Nusayri_Turkey
15.26325981 Iran_Khorasan
15.82258196 Iranian_Fars
15.92063755 Turkmen_Iran


Target: AdanaYörük_AntepTurkmen
Distance: 1.4296% / 1.42963233 | ADC: 0.25x
47.2 Turk_South
32.4 Yoruk
10.0 Nusayri_Turkey
4.0 Mandean
3.2 Bnei_Menashe_Jews
1.8 Syria_SW_Christian

[Leto]

Target: AdanaYörük_AntepTurkmen
Distance: 1.4296% / 1.42963233 | ADC: 0.25x
47.2 Turk_South
32.4 Yoruk
10.0 Nusayri_Turkey
4.0 Mandean
3.2 Bnei_Menashe_Jews
1.8 Syria_SW_Christian
A rather strong Levantine/Mesopotamian pull.

[Kyp]

A rather strong Levantine/Mesopotamian pull.

Yes Adana and gaziantep are both in the south

[Kaspias]

Balkan Turk From Didymoteicho, Western Thrace. There are speculations about being 1/4 or 1/2 Gagauz on father's side. Her mother is Gacal.

y-DNA: R1b
mt-DNA: D

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 31.84
2 North_European 23.85
3 Atlantic_Med 23.03
4 Southwest_Asian 8.68
5 Gedrosia 7.46
6 Siberian 2.06
7 East_Asian 1.9
8 Northwest_African 1.19

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Greek (Dodecad) 9
2 O_Italian (Dodecad) 10.94
3 Bulgarian (Dodecad) 11.37
4 Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) 12.23
5 Romanians (Behar) 12.99
6 C_Italian (Dodecad) 13.23
7 Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) 13.68
8 Ashkenazi (Dodecad) 14.26
9 S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) 14.38
10 Sicilian (Dodecad) 14.59
11 Tuscan (HGDP) 15.22
12 TSI30 (Metspalu) 16.01
13 N_Italian (Dodecad) 19.25
14 Sephardic_Jews (Behar) 19.71
15 Turkish (Dodecad) 21.39
16 North_Italian (HGDP) 21.75
17 Morocco_Jews (Behar) 21.84
18 Turks (Behar) 23.43
19 Nogais (Yunusbayev) 24.85
20 Cypriots (Behar) 25.4

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 75.6% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 24.4% Mordovians (Yunusbayev) @ 3.95
2 62.8% Cypriots (Behar) + 37.2% Swedish (Dodecad) @ 4.38
3 60.2% Turkish (Dodecad) + 39.8% German (Dodecad) @ 4.38
4 52% Cypriots (Behar) + 48% Hungarians (Behar) @ 4.49
5 55.8% Cypriots (Behar) + 44.2% German (Dodecad) @ 4.56
6 81.6% Greek (Dodecad) + 18.4% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) @ 4.61
7 76.8% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 23.2% Russian (HGDP) @ 4.62
8 75.6% Sicilian (Dodecad) + 24.4% Mordovians (Yunusbayev) @ 4.64
9 71.2% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 28.8% Nogais (Yunusbayev) @ 4.69
10 64.9% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 35.1% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) @ 4.75
11 84.5% Greek (Dodecad) + 15.5% Chuvashs (Behar) @ 4.78
12 62.9% Cypriots (Behar) + 37.1% Norwegian (Dodecad) @ 4.8
13 75.4% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 24.6% Chuvashs (Behar) @ 4.87
14 76.5% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 23.5% Russian_B (Behar) @ 4.88
15 63.4% Romanians (Behar) + 36.6% Turkish (Dodecad) @ 4.93
16 74.6% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 25.4% Iranians (Behar) @ 4.94
17 62.9% Turkish (Dodecad) + 37.1% Dutch (Dodecad) @ 4.94
18 73.6% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 26.4% Kurd (Dodecad) @ 4.95
19 72.7% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 27.3% Kumyks (Yunusbayev) @ 4.98
20 67% Turkish (Dodecad) + 33% Norwegian (Dodecad) @ 4.99



Distance to: X
4.15067464 Turk_Macedonia
4.28092280 Turk_Greece
7.00609021 Crimean_Tatar_Coast
7.77695313 Turk_Bulgaria
8.47226227 Italy_Apulia
8.61639716 Albanian_Kosovo
8.77513533 Crimean_Tatar_Mountain
8.90148864 MD_Gagauz
9.63673181 Albanian_North
9.65443939 Turk_Romania



Target: X
Distance: 1.1966% / 1.19658186 | ADC: 0.25x
48.4 MD_Gagauz
32.2 Greek
15.4 Yoruk
2.6 Qumuq
1.4 MD_Jewish

[Bender1999]

Why are Turks from South/Southeast the same SW-Asia than other Turks(and sometimes even less), but on the other hand have apparent African admixture. Interesting.

[Kyp]

Azerbaijani (Turk) from Saidarabad:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/6d/Sabirabad_in_Azerbaijan.svg

Gedrosian: 24.91
Siberian: 0.00
Northwest_African: 0.91
Southeast_Asian: 1.14
Atlantic_Med: 7.93
North_European: 7.66
South_Asian 3.05
East_African 0.36
Southwest_Asian: 12.99
East_Asian: 3.20
Caucasian: 37.86
Sub-Saharan: 0.00


Distance to: Azerbaijani_Saidarabad
3.98868399 Kurd_Kurmanji
4.20221370 Azerbaijani_Iran
4.61492145 Kurd_Sorani
5.20187466 Talysh_Azerbaijan
5.31320995 Zaza
5.35474556 Azerbaijani
5.47521689 Turkmen_Iraq
6.20552979 Lur_Iran
6.31426164 Iranian_Fars
6.47336852 Azerbaijani_Turkey
6.54278992 Iranian
7.04998582 Kurd_KAZ
8.23646769 Turk_Southeast
9.45074071 Iran_Khorasan
9.92069050 Udi_Azerbaijan
10.11452915 Iran_Mazandaran
11.06719477 Iraqi_Baghdad
11.28371393 Turk_East
11.46830851 Turk_Central_East
11.56498595 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
12.07263020 Turk_South
13.15435289 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
13.22292328 Turk_Anatolia
13.26287299 Turk_Central_West
13.46764642 Mandean


Target: Azerbaijani_Saidarabad
Distance: 1.6205% / 1.62052217 | ADC: 0.25x
68.2 Kurd_Kurmanji
19.2 Iranian_Fars
6.2 Talysh_Azerbaijan
4.0 Lezgin
1.8 Chinese
0.6 Japanese

[Leto]

Azerbaijani (Turk) from Saidarabad:

This time a strong Kurdish shift.

[Halgurd]

Azerbaijani (Turk) from Saidarabad:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/6d/Sabirabad_in_Azerbaijan.svg

Gedrosian: 24.91
Siberian: 0.00
Northwest_African: 0.91
Southeast_Asian: 1.14
Atlantic_Med: 7.93
North_European: 7.66
South_Asian 3.05
East_African 0.36
Southwest_Asian: 12.99
East_Asian: 3.20
Caucasian: 37.86
Sub-Saharan: 0.00


Very similar results to mine, except that my East Asian isn’t as high.

[Halgurd]

My only Turkish match:

Y DNA: J-M172

# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 31.05
2 North_European 20.55
3 Atlantic_Med 14.4
4 Gedrosia 9.07
5 East_Asian 8.84
6 Southwest_Asian 8.02
7 Siberian 6.37
8 South_Asian 0.75
9 Northwest_African 0.72
10 Sub_Saharan 0.24


Target: Turk
Distance: 3.7942% / 3.79416732 | ADC: 0.5x
62.4 Crimean_Tatar_Mountain
19.8 Turk_Northwest
15.0 Crimean_Tatar_Steppe
2.2 Nogais
0.6 JPT30

Target: Turk
Distance: 2.3192% / 2.31917351 | ADC: 0.25x
65.8 Crimean_Tatar_Mountain
14.4 Crimean_Tatar_Steppe
9.4 Nogais
3.0 Turk_Northwest
3.0 Yemen_Jews
2.4 Greek
1.2 Japanese
0.8 JPT30

[Kaspias]

My only Turkish match:

Y DNA: J-M172

# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 31.05
2 North_European 20.55
3 Atlantic_Med 14.4
4 Gedrosia 9.07
5 East_Asian 8.84
6 Southwest_Asian 8.02
7 Siberian 6.37
8 South_Asian 0.75
9 Northwest_African 0.72
10 Sub_Saharan 0.24


Target: Turk
Distance: 3.7942% / 3.79416732 | ADC: 0.5x
62.4 Crimean_Tatar_Mountain
19.8 Turk_Northwest
15.0 Crimean_Tatar_Steppe
2.2 Nogais
0.6 JPT30

Target: Turk
Distance: 2.3192% / 2.31917351 | ADC: 0.25x
65.8 Crimean_Tatar_Mountain
14.4 Crimean_Tatar_Steppe
9.4 Nogais
3.0 Turk_Northwest
3.0 Yemen_Jews
2.4 Greek
1.2 Japanese
0.8 JPT30

half Balkan Turk half Western Yoruk probably. May I ask the kit?

[Leto]

My only Turkish match:

Y DNA: J-M172

# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 31.05
2 North_European 20.55
3 Atlantic_Med 14.4
4 Gedrosia 9.07
5 East_Asian 8.84
6 Southwest_Asian 8.02
7 Siberian 6.37
8 South_Asian 0.75
9 Northwest_African 0.72
10 Sub_Saharan 0.24


Target: Turk
Distance: 3.7942% / 3.79416732 | ADC: 0.5x
62.4 Crimean_Tatar_Mountain
19.8 Turk_Northwest
15.0 Crimean_Tatar_Steppe
2.2 Nogais
0.6 JPT30

Target: Turk
Distance: 2.3192% / 2.31917351 | ADC: 0.25x
65.8 Crimean_Tatar_Mountain
14.4 Crimean_Tatar_Steppe
9.4 Nogais
3.0 Turk_Northwest
3.0 Yemen_Jews
2.4 Greek
1.2 Japanese
0.8 JPT30
That's not a typical Turk. 15% Mongoloid, 20% North European, low Gedrosia. I think he has a non-Turkish parent or something like that.

[Halgurd]

half Balkan Turk half Western Yoruk probably. May I ask the kit?

Yes, he must be partially Balkan Turk. He has Bulgaria in his ancestor locations section.

Kit number: M101056

[Kaspias]

Yes, he must be partially Balkan Turk. He has Bulgaria in his ancestor locations section.

Kit number: M101056

His mother is in my archive, she is from Veliko Tarnovo, Bulgaria.

Father is from Manisa, Akhisar if I recall correctly.

[Leto]

Mongol

Gedrosia 5.83 Pct
Siberian 33.02 Pct
Northwest_African -
Southeast_Asian 5.10 Pct
Atlantic_Med -
North_European 3.69 Pct
South_Asian -
East_African -
Southwest_Asian -
East_Asian 48.37 Pct
Caucasus 3.99 Pct
Sub_Saharan -

Distance to: Yesui
6.67551496 Kalmyk
7.61816251 Mongol
14.37088724 Oroqen
15.45264379 Buryat
15.97887355 Kyrgyz_Bishkek
17.12558612 Kyrgyz
19.57969356 Daur
20.12765262 Altai
21.72130981 Kazakh
22.47421634 Hezhen

Target: Yesui
Distance: 2.9172% / 2.91715720 | ADC: 0.25x
61.4 Kalmyk
19.0 Hezhen
10.2 Mongol
7.6 Oroqen
1.8 Balochi

86.5% Mongoloid, 13.5% Caucasoid. I deleted the strange "Mongola" reference, it's almost Chinese but I suspect the "Mongol" one may not be good enough either. Kalmyk was added by me, taken from some custom spreadsheet.

[Leto]

Not very suitable for this thread but here's a Manchu from Jilin, Northeastern China
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jilin

Kit EJ6306929

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 East_Asian 68.19
2 Southeast_Asian 27.97
3 Siberian 2.98
4 Gedrosia 0.78
5 South_Asian 0.07

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Chinese (Dodecad) 4.33
2 CHB30 (Metspalu) 4.52
3 Yizu (HGDP) 5.03
4 Naxi (HGDP) 5.35
5 Naga (Metspalu) 12.61
6 Tu (HGDP) 12.77
7 CHD30 (Metspalu) 16.62
8 Tujia (HGDP) 18.19
9 Mongola (HGDP) 20.74
10 Han (HGDP) 22.52
11 Xibo (HGDP) 23.92
12 Korean (Dodecad) 26.45
13 She (HGDP) 27.76
14 CHS30 (SGVP) 30.54
15 Hezhen (HGDP) 30.56
16 Miaozu (HGDP) 30.83
17 Daur (HGDP) 37.5
18 Garo (Chaubey) 37.9
19 Burmanese (Chaubey) 39.71
20 Japanese (HGDP) 43.88

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 93.7% Chinese (Dodecad) + 6.3% Buryat (Rasmussen) @ 0.6
2 94.2% Chinese (Dodecad) + 5.8% Tuva (Rasmussen) @ 0.63
3 92.5% Chinese (Dodecad) + 7.5% Mongol (Rasmussen) @ 0.77
4 93.7% Chinese (Dodecad) + 6.3% Altai (Rasmussen) @ 0.88
5 95.9% Chinese (Dodecad) + 4.1% Yakut (HGDP) @ 0.98
6 96% Chinese (Dodecad) + 4% Yukagir (Rasmussen) @ 1.02
7 96.2% Chinese (Dodecad) + 3.8% Evenk (Rasmussen) @ 1.05
8 92.8% Chinese (Dodecad) + 7.2% Oroqen (HGDP) @ 1.06
9 72.7% Korean (Dodecad) + 27.3% Lahu (HGDP) @ 1.08
10 96% Chinese (Dodecad) + 4% Dolgan (Rasmussen) @ 1.11
11 84.6% CHB30 (Metspalu) + 15.4% Xibo (HGDP) @ 1.19
12 96.9% Chinese (Dodecad) + 3.1% Nganassan (Rasmussen) @ 1.22
13 74.5% CHB30 (Metspalu) + 25.5% Tu (HGDP) @ 1.23
14 96.2% Chinese (Dodecad) + 3.8% Ket (Rasmussen) @ 1.46
15 74.6% CHB30 (Metspalu) + 25.4% Naga (Metspalu) @ 1.51
16 96.2% Chinese (Dodecad) + 3.8% Selkup (Rasmussen) @ 1.59
17 83% CHB30 (Metspalu) + 17% Mongola (HGDP) @ 1.59
18 83.7% Chinese (Dodecad) + 16.3% Mongola (HGDP) @ 1.62
19 87.9% CHB30 (Metspalu) + 12.1% Hezhen (HGDP) @ 1.69
20 71.5% Korean (Dodecad) + 28.5% KHV30 (1000Genomes) @ 1.8

Only 3% Siberian while the Mongol above is still 1/3 Siberian. A very stark difference.

[Zoro]

A couple of Kurds from my area. The lowest E Asian with this calculator for Kurds from my area is 3%, the highest around 8 or 9%

https://i.imgur.com/XkQeRER.jpg?1
https://i.imgur.com/vp3ogPT.jpg


https://i.imgur.com/NsNi0ga.jpg?1
https://i.imgur.com/nj0NE3Q.jpg?1

https://i.imgur.com/NHrGvRo.jpg?1
https://i.imgur.com/nwG3L8D.jpg?1

[Kyp]

A couple of Kurds from my area. The lowest E Asian with this calculator for Kurds from my area is 3%, the highest around 8 or 9%

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Iraqi Turkmens? What's the area?

[Kaspias]

Tatar from Dobrich, Bulgaria


Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_European 26.45
2 Caucasus 15.84
3 East_Asian 13.73
4 Atlantic_Med 13.25
5 Siberian 10.54
6 Gedrosia 10.02
7 Southwest_Asian 4.93
8 Southeast_Asian 2.76
9 South_Asian 2.47



Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Crimean_Tatar_Steppe @ 3,674765
2 Uzbek @ 16,552942
3 Bashkir @ 17,951563
4 Turkmen_Uzbekistan @ 18,823133
5 Turk_Bulgaria @ 19,924206
6 Crimean_Tatar_Mountain @ 22,350217
7 Karakalpak @ 22,789766
8 Turk_Greece @ 22,85039
9 Tajik_Tajikistan @ 24,003518
10 R,Moldova_Gagauz @ 24,05332
11 Turk_Northwest @ 24,163211
12 HUN_Szekely @ 24,439665
13 Nogais @ 24,627657
14 R,Moldova_South @ 24,758466
15 Pomak @ 24,852894
16 Gagauz @ 24,985304
17 Yoruk @ 25,1747
18 Tatar_Kazan @ 25,611303
19 Turk_Macedonia @ 25,661716
20 Macedonian @ 25,871137
21 Montenegrin @ 26,274532
22 Serb @ 26,588292
23 Turkmen_Iran @ 26,606642
24 Turk_Southwest @ 26,655733
25 Romanians @ 26,865109
26 Bulgarian @ 26,904322
27 Uygur @ 26,929668
28 Yagnobi @ 26,981386
29 Udmurt @ 27,297922
30 Uzbeks @ 27,321441
335 iterations.

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 Crimean_Tatar_Steppe+Crimean_Tatar_Steppe @ 3,674765
2 Bosnian+Hazara @ 4,334658
3 Karakalpak+Pomak @ 4,411442
4 Croat+Hazara @ 4,611563
5 Serb+Uygur @ 4,713288
6 Karakalpak+Serb @ 4,723208
7 Hazara+Serb @ 4,798805
8 Karakalpak+Macedonian @ 4,808524
9 Karakalpak+Montenegrin @ 4,818185
10 HUN_Szekely+Karakalpak @ 5,00718
11 HUN_Szekely+Uygur @ 5,022365
12 Bosnian+Uygur @ 5,048313
13 Karakalpak+R,Moldova_South @ 5,119973
14 Bosnian+Karakalpak @ 5,220394
15 Montenegrin+Uygur @ 5,263697
16 Karakalpak+R,Moldova_Gagauz @ 5,345936
17 Croat+Uygur @ 5,419299
18 Karakalpak+Turk_Bulgaria @ 5,526908
19 Gagauz+Karakalpak @ 5,57735
20 Hazara+HUN_Szekely @ 5,620174
21 Karakalpak+Romanians @ 5,674944
22 Hazara+Montenegrin @ 5,831917
23 Hazara+Hungarians @ 5,847359
24 Croat+Karakalpak @ 5,933184
25 Macedonian+Uygur @ 5,935137
26 Hazara+Slovenian @ 5,96677
27 Pomak+Uygur @ 5,984469
28 Hazara+Romanians @ 6,11286
29 Kazakh+Pomak @ 6,117031
30 Bulgarian+Karakalpak @ 6,16225
56280 iterations.

Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Crimean_Tatar_Steppe +25% HUN_Szekely +25% Uzbek @ 2,468009
2 50% Crimean_Tatar_Steppe +25% Bosnian +25% Hazara @ 2,475751
3 50% Crimean_Tatar_Steppe +25% Croat +25% Hazara @ 2,488141
4 50% Slovak +25% Iran_Mazandaran +25% Oroqen @ 2,587844
5 50% Crimean_Tatar_Steppe +25% Bosnian +25% Uygur @ 2,617389
6 50% Crimean_Tatar_Steppe +25% Serb +25% Uygur @ 2,64804
7 50% Crimean_Tatar_Steppe +25% Croat +25% Uygur @ 2,695134
8 50% Crimean_Tatar_Steppe +25% Hazara +25% Slovenian @ 2,853792
9 50% Crimean_Tatar_Steppe +25% Hazara +25% Serb @ 2,857997
10 50% Crimean_Tatar_Steppe +25% Hazara +25% Hungarians @ 2,869278
11 50% Crimean_Tatar_Steppe +25% Bosnian +25% Uzbek @ 2,913295
12 50% Crimean_Tatar_Steppe +25% HUN_Szekely +25% Uygur @ 2,981198
13 50% Crimean_Tatar_Steppe +25% Serb +25% Uzbek @ 2,985043
14 50% Crimean_Tatar_Steppe +25% Croat +25% Uzbek @ 3,002717
15 50% Karakalpak +25% PL_Warmia-Masuria +25% Turk_West_BlackSea @ 3,008259
16 50% Crimean_Tatar_Steppe +25% Montenegrin +25% Uygur @ 3,012822
17 50% Slovak +25% Lur_Iran +25% Oroqen @ 3,014034
18 50% Turk_Bulgaria +25% Bashkir +25% Uygur @ 3,021174
19 50% Slovak +25% Iranian +25% Oroqen @ 3,063506
20 50% Karakalpak +25% Crimean_Tatar_Coast +25% PL_Warmia-Masuria @ 3,073693
21 50% Crimean_Tatar_Steppe +25% Slovenian +25% Uygur @ 3,080783
22 50% Serb +25% Hazara +25% Karakalpak @ 3,096512
23 50% Crimean_Tatar_Steppe +25% Karakalpak +25% Serb @ 3,099408
24 50% Crimean_Tatar_Steppe +25% Bosnian +25% Karakalpak @ 3,140589
25 50% Karakalpak +25% Crimean_Tatar_Coast +25% PL_GreaterPoland @ 3,149381
26 50% Bosnian +25% Hazara +25% Karakalpak @ 3,152881
27 50% Karakalpak +25% PL_Warmia-Masuria +25% Turk_Central_West @ 3,165328
28 50% Karakalpak +25% Swedish +25% Turk_Central_East @ 3,165938
29 50% Karakalpak +25% Crimean_Tatar_Coast +25% Sorb_Lusatia @ 3,166734
30 50% Karakalpak +25% Swedish +25% Turk_West_BlackSea @ 3,197781
11635866 iterations.

Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Greek_Crete+Karakalpak+Uygur+Finnish_West @ 1,67849
2 Hazara+Italy_Campania+Karakalpak+Lithuanian @ 1,782518
3 Hazara+Karakalpak+Lithuanian+MD_Jewish @ 1,879023
4 Ashkenazi_Jews+Hazara+Karakalpak+Lithuanian @ 1,887462
5 Hazara+Italy_Calabria+Karakalpak+Latvian @ 1,914073
6 Ashkenazi_Jews+Hazara+Karakalpak+Latvian @ 1,920876
7 Greek_Crete+Hazara+Karakalpak+Estonian @ 1,927942
8 Kyrgyz_Bishkek+Turk_Bulgaria+Turkmen_Uzbekistan+Uk rainian @ 1,935293
9 Greek_Crete+Kyrgyz_Bishkek+Uzbek+Estonian @ 1,941082
10 Greek_Crete+Kyrgyz+Uzbek+Finnish_West @ 1,94715
11 Italy_Marche+Kyrgyz+Uzbek+Mordovian @ 1,949347
12 Hazara+Italy_Sicily+Karakalpak+Lithuanian @ 1,955976
13 Greek_Crete+Kyrgyz+Uzbek+Estonian @ 1,956119
14 Hazara+Italy_Campania+Karakalpak+Latvian @ 1,966726
15 Hazara+Italy_Apulia+Karakalpak+Lithuanian @ 1,982679
16 Italy_Calabria+Kyrgyz+Uzbek+Latvian @ 1,984142
17 Hazara+Karakalpak+Latvian+MD_Jewish @ 1,995737
18 Hazara+Karakalpak+Estonian+MD_Jewish @ 1,998839
19 Kyrgyz+Turk_Bulgaria+Turkmen_Uzbekistan+Ukrainian @ 1,999484
20 Hazara+Italy_Calabria+Karakalpak+Lithuanian @ 2,002137
21 Italy_Lazio+Kyrgyz_Bishkek+Turkmen_Uzbekistan+Mord ovian @ 2,003465
22 Italy_Lazio+Kyrgyz+Uzbek+Mordovian @ 2,007598
23 Kyrgyz_Bishkek+PL_GreaterPoland+Turk_Bulgaria+Turk men_Uzbekistan @ 2,008323
24 Greek_Crete+Hazara+Karakalpak+Latvian @ 2,013864
25 Hazara+Italy_Marche+Karakalpak+Mordovian @ 2,051933
26 Kyrgyz+PL_GreaterPoland+Turk_Bulgaria+Turkmen_Uzbe kistan @ 2,060179
27 Italy_Calabria+Kyrgyz_Bishkek+Uzbek+Latvian @ 2,073615
28 Hazara+Italy_Abruzzo+Karakalpak+Lithuanian @ 2,074918
29 Greek_Crete+Kyrgyz_Bishkek+Uzbek+Finnish_West @ 2,075282
30 Kyrgyz+Uzbek+Estonian+MD_Jewish @ 2,083252
31 Greek_Crete+Karakalpak+Uygur+Estonian @ 2,100166
32 Italy_Marche+Kyrgyz_Bishkek+Uzbek+Mordovian @ 2,109322
33 Greek_Crete+Kyrgyz+Uzbek+Karelian @ 2,113178
34 Italy_Romagna+Kyrgyz_Bishkek+Turkmen_Uzbekistan+Mo rdovian @ 2,114242
35 Ashkenazi_Jews+Hazara+Karakalpak+Estonian @ 2,119136
36 Italy_Campania+Kyrgyz+Uzbek+Latvian @ 2,144366
37 Italy_Marche+Kyrgyz_Bishkek+Turkmen_Uzbekistan+Mor dovian @ 2,145037
38 Hazara+Italy_Lazio+Karakalpak+Mordovian @ 2,146935
39 Kyrgyz_Bishkek+Turk_Greece+Turkmen_Uzbekistan+Ukra inian @ 2,14773
40 Kyrgyz+Turk_Greece+Ukrainian+Uzbek @ 2,150344
41 Italy_Calabria+Kyrgyz+Uzbek+Karelian @ 2,152111
42 Italy_Sicily+Kyrgyz+Uzbek+Lithuanian @ 2,152781
43 Italy_Apulia+Kyrgyz_Bishkek+Turkmen_Uzbekistan+Kar elian @ 2,153776
44 Italy_Campania+Kyrgyz+Uzbek+Karelian @ 2,155858
45 Greek_Crete+Kyrgyz_Bishkek+Uzbek+Latvian @ 2,157224
46 Greek_Crete+Kyrgyz_Bishkek+Uzbek+Karelian @ 2,160699
47 Italy_Lazio+Kyrgyz_Bishkek+Uzbek+Mordovian @ 2,164675
48 Italy_Apulia+Kyrgyz+Uzbek+Estonian @ 2,167265
49 Kyrgyz+Slovak+Turk_Bulgaria+Uzbek @ 2,17438
50 Hazara+Italy_Apulia+Karakalpak+Estonian @ 2,175105
51 Kyrgyz_Bishkek+Rus_Kostroma+Turk_Greece+Turkmen_Uz bekistan @ 2,177597
52 Kyrgyz_Bishkek+Slovak+Turk_Bulgaria+Turkmen_Uzbeki stan @ 2,180301
53 Italy_Lazio+Kyrgyz+Turkmen_Uzbekistan+Mordovian @ 2,190397
54 Italy_Romagna+Kyrgyz+Turkmen_Uzbekistan+Mordovian @ 2,198508
55 Italy_Apulia+Kyrgyz+Turkmen_Uzbekistan+Karelian @ 2,199111
56 Ashkenazi_Jews+Kyrgyz+Uzbek+Latvian @ 2,199241
57 Italy_Sicily+Kyrgyz+Uzbek+Latvian @ 2,199849
58 Italy_Campania+Kyrgyz+Uzbek+Lithuanian @ 2,201983
59 Hazara+Karakalpak+Turk_Greece+Ukrainian @ 2,206172
60 Greek_Crete+Kyrgyz+Uzbek+Latvian @ 2,207151
101832257 iterations.

[Zoro]

Iraqi Turkmens? What's the area?

Where did you get Turkmen from, the oracles say kurd. They are 100% Kurmanji Kurds from Dohuk Iraq except for the last one which is my cousin’s who is kurmanji kurd/Turkmen mix. I have 3 other Kurmanji kurd results which I didn’t post and they all are typically 25-29% Gedrosian and 3%+ E Asian/Siberian.

Even Halgurd is like that. The point is simply that’s that’s how kurmanji kurds from my area are and anything that someone posts as a kurdish result different from those looks a little odd for me just like the kurdish averages someone put in vahaduo. Let me know if you want me to post the other Kurmanji kurds

[harutsafaryan07]

southern Armenians

Distance to: Armenian_Syunik1
1.53987012 Armenian_Karabakh
2.79622960 Armenian_East
3.56719778 Armenian_West
4.48209772 Armenian_Iran
4.83397352 Turk_East
5.71149718 Udi_Azerbaijan
5.76897738 Assyrian_North
5.84350066 Azeri_Jew
6.03109443 Assyrian_West
6.27377080 Assyrian_South
7.39818897 Georgia_Jews
7.76786972 Turk_East_Black_Sea
7.93894829 Greek_Pontus
8.18399658 Turk_Ahiska
9.03311131 Zaza
9.07771998 Iranian_Jew
9.18456314 Hemshin
9.65304097 Mandean
10.20839361 Iraqi_Jew
10.25249726 Laz
10.70719384 Greek_Cappadocia
10.76994893 Azerbaijani_Turkey
10.90787330 Kurd_Kurmanji
11.20471329 Talysh_Azerbaijan
11.34628133 Turkmen_Iraq


Distance to: Armenian_Syunik2
1.65526433 Armenian_Karabakh
3.76581996 Armenian_East
4.51986725 Armenian_West
4.77171877 Armenian_Iran
5.58227552 Azeri_Jew
5.66316166 Assyrian_North
5.85697874 Turk_East
5.88979626 Udi_Azerbaijan
6.26868407 Assyrian_West
6.30689305 Assyrian_South
6.34290943 Georgia_Jews
7.97712354 Turk_Ahiska
8.33943044 Turk_East_Black_Sea
8.61838732 Greek_Pontus
8.81287694 Zaza
8.82767806 Iranian_Jew
9.13465380 Hemshin
9.33777811 Mandean
10.18700152 Iraqi_Jew
10.22987781 Laz
10.65611092 Talysh_Azerbaijan
10.80040740 Kurd_Kurmanji
11.02356113 Kurd_KAZ
11.15681406 Azerbaijani_Turkey
11.26661440 Turkmen_Iraq


Distance to: Armenian_Syunik3
2.75633815 Armenian_Karabakh
3.94693552 Armenian_East
4.02090786 Armenian_West
4.76034663 Turk_East
5.62919177 Udi_Azerbaijan
5.87711664 Assyrian_North
6.01665189 Assyrian_West
6.02870633 Azeri_Jew
6.26890740 Armenian_Iran
6.34225512 Assyrian_South
8.52705694 Zaza
8.78958475 Georgia_Jews
8.97556683 Iranian_Jew
9.04313552 Greek_Pontus
9.05046960 Turk_East_Black_Sea
9.44181127 Turk_Ahiska
9.44829085 Mandean
10.03760928 Greek_Cappadocia
10.04322159 Iraqi_Jew
10.28210582 Kurd_Kurmanji
10.32582200 Azerbaijani_Turkey
10.61559702 Turkmen_Iraq
10.67800543 Hemshin
10.87519195 Turk_Central_East
10.89958256 Nusayri_Turkey


Distance to: Armenian_Syunik4
2.04107815 Armenian_Karabakh
2.65652028 Armenian_East
4.03518277 Turk_East
4.25386883 Udi_Azerbaijan
4.67897425 Armenian_Iran
5.03472939 Armenian_West
6.85558896 Azeri_Jew
6.87078598 Assyrian_North
7.20325621 Assyrian_West
7.28454528 Turk_Ahiska
7.41464767 Assyrian_South
7.81478087 Georgia_Jews
8.09549257 Turk_East_Black_Sea
8.32878743 Zaza
8.65505055 Greek_Pontus
9.41976645 Hemshin
9.95698750 Iranian_Jew
10.04947760 Azerbaijani_Turkey
10.33187785 Kurd_Kurmanji
10.36968177 Laz
10.45817384 Talysh_Azerbaijan
10.49602782 Mandean
11.05386810 Turk_Central_East
11.06306016 Turkmen_Iraq
11.10422442 Kurd_KAZ

and Armenian ancestors from Naxcivan

Gedrosia 21.54
Siberian -
Northwest_African 0.53
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 11.11
North_European 6.26
South_Asian 0.63
East_African 0.14
Southwest_Asian 13.41
East_Asian -
Caucasus 46.30
Sub_Saharan -

Distance to: Armenian_Naxcivan
4.03806885 Armenian_Karabakh
4.60674505 Turk_East
5.67029982 Armenian_East
5.91065986 Zaza
6.78958762 Armenian_West
7.45157030 Azeri_Jew
7.64767285 Assyrian_North
7.81487044 Armenian_Iran
7.92750276 Kurd_Kurmanji
8.15984681 Assyrian_West
8.19308245 Assyrian_South
8.33833317 Talysh_Azerbaijan
8.71142927 Azerbaijani_Turkey
8.80580490 Kurd_KAZ
9.07489945 Turk_Ahiska
9.24381415 Turkmen_Iraq
9.36900742 Azerbaijani_Iran
9.97403629 Kurd_Sorani
9.97968937 Iranian_Jew
10.03257694 Azerbaijani
10.06412440 Mandean
10.30562953 Georgia_Jews
10.42894530 Turk_Southeast
10.68020599 Turk_East_Black_Sea

[Kaspias]

Where did you get Turkmen from, the oracles say kurd. They are 100% Kurmanji Kurds from Dohuk Iraq except for the last one which is my cousin’s who is kurmanji kurd/Turkmen mix. I have 3 other Kurmanji kurd results which I didn’t post and they all are typically 25-29% Gedrosian and 3%+ E Asian/Siberian.

Even Halgurd is like that. The point is simply that’s that’s how kurmanji kurds from my area are and anything that someone posts as a kurdish result different from those looks a little odd for me just like the kurdish averages someone put in vahaduo. Let me know if you want me to post the other Kurmanji kurds

Halgurd is Kurd, you're genetically Turkmen, but you are free to identify as whatever you want of course. But showing Turkmens as Kurd is not a way to justify your Kurdishness.


First result is half Kurdish? half Iraqi Turkmen.

Distance to: X
4.15974759 Kurd_Kurmanji
4.35669600 Kurd_Sorani
4.74711491 Turkmen_Iraq
5.34152600 Azerbaijani_Iran
5.45634493 Lur_Iran
5.66655980 Zaza
6.17682766 Talysh_Azerbaijan
6.39313695 Iranian
6.68299334 Kurd_KAZ
6.86729932 Azerbaijani
7.06001416 Iranian_Fars
7.54831107 Azerbaijani_Turkey
8.57278834 Turk_Southeast
9.53346212 Iraqi_Baghdad
10.64637027 Udi_Azerbaijan
10.97832410 Iran_Mazandaran
11.46640746 Turk_East
11.50139122 Iran_Khorasan
11.86468710 Mandean
11.96287591 Turk_Central_East
12.42913110 Turk_South
12.57196882 Iranian_Jew
12.90136039 Azeri_Jew
13.43787558 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
13.48345653 Azerbaijani_Dagestan


Target: X
Distance: 2.4225% / 2.42245816 | ADC: 0.5x
50.0 Turkmen_Iraq
24.8 Iranian
19.8 Kurd_Kurmanji
4.2 Lur_Iran
0.6 Ket
0.6 Nganassan

Second result is probably a mix of Iranian and Iranian Turk.

Distance to: X2
5.15148522 Iranian_Fars
7.51720693 Iran_Khorasan
8.10663309 Lur_Iran
8.73140309 Iranian
9.52790638 Kurd_Sorani
10.01324123 Iran_Mazandaran
10.28091922 Kurd_Kurmanji
10.39584051 Azerbaijani_Iran
10.85730630 Turkmen_Iraq
10.89527420 Talysh_Azerbaijan
11.01311491 Turkmens
11.60466286 Azerbaijani
11.63135418 Kurd_KAZ
12.11945956 Zaza
12.65228833 Turkmen_Iran
12.77878711 Azerbaijani_Turkey
13.16083204 Parsi_India
13.88757358 Turk_Southeast
14.55459034 Iran_Bandari
14.65036860 Iraqi_Baghdad
16.11232758 Tajik_Herat
16.22160904 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
16.71936303 Turk_South
17.25193902 Udi_Azerbaijan
17.37163780 Turk_Central_East


Target: X2
Distance: 3.8129% / 3.81292120 | ADC: 0.5x
81.2 Iranian_Fars
18.2 Turkmens
0.4 Lahu
0.2 Makrani

[Kyp]

Where did you get Turkmen from, the oracles say kurd. They are 100% Kurmanji Kurds from Dohuk Iraq except for the last one which is my cousin’s who is kurmanji kurd/Turkmen mix. I have 3 other Kurmanji kurd results which I didn’t post and they all are typically 25-29% Gedrosian and 3%+ E Asian/Siberian.

Even Halgurd is like that. The point is simply that’s that’s how kurmanji kurds from my area are and anything that someone posts as a kurdish result different from those looks a little odd for me just like the kurdish averages someone put in vahaduo. Let me know if you want me to post the other Kurmanji kurds

Well there you go. The last one is Turkmen mixed. Because of your posting history here I can never be sure and that's why I asked. You once said to me you're fully Kurdish, then in another post Turkmen etc..
To this day I don't have a clue about your actual ancestry.

Yes scoring around 3% East Eurasian on Dodecad is common for Kurds and Iranians. But when it exceeds these number I have to think of Turkmen ancestry or Azeri ancestry in Iran. Most Kurds from Turkey and Iran I have seen had below 3% though. Even a lot of Iraqi Turkmens only score around these numbers.

You can't tell me scoring 9% East Eurasian is normal for a Kurd with only Kurdish ancestry. I also don't care about your "Deep ancestry" stuff because this is not what these Gedmatch calculators pick up. Halgurd will agree with me.

[Zoro]

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[Zoro]

Halgurd is Kurd, you're genetically Turkmen, but you are free to identify as whatever you want of course. But showing Turkmens as Kurd is not a way to justify your Kurdishness.


First result is half Kurdish? half Iraqi Turkmen.


No the 1st two are 100% kurmanji kurds. The problem is that you don’t have a good average for iraqi kurmanji kurds otherwise your distances would have clearly favored Iraqi kurmanji kurds. Even the original dodecad spreadsheet has better kurdish averages for our area and for iranian kurds. It was a mistake for whoever removed the original dodecad averages from vahaduo because the averages they put in there are not good for our area (maybe they’re ok for some part of turkey)

I have a few kurmanji kurds and feyli kurds which we can create an average for both. This way Iraqi kurds will see lower distances when they run vahaduo. As for myself i’m who i am turkmen-kurd mix.

Also, i have seen that some Iraqi turkmen and iraqi kurmanji results do overlap in some cases.

[Kaspias]

No the 1st two are 100% kurmanji kurds. The problem is that you don’t have a good average for iraqi kurmanji kurds otherwise your distances would have clearly favored Iraqi kurmanji kurds. Even the original dodecad spreadsheet has better kurdish averages for our area and for iranian kurds. It was a mistake for whoever removed the original dodecad averages from vahaduo because the averages they put in there are not good for our area (maybe they’re ok for some part of turkey)

I have a few kurmanji kurds and feyli kurds which we can create an average for both. This way Iraqi kurds will see lower distances when they run vahaduo. As for myself i’m who i am turkmen-kurd mix.

Also, i have seen that some Iraqi turkmen and iraqi kurmanji results do overlap in some cases.

Source of K12b Kurds either Turkish or Azerbaijani DNA projects. I have seen plenty of people get accurate results with these averages tbh. Nevertheless, I'm just stating what I see.


Anyway there is a full Iraqi Turkmen from Kerkük:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 36.47
2 Gedrosia 21.99
3 Southwest_Asian 15.66
4 Atlantic_Med 9.03
5 North_European 6.37
6 Siberian 3.33
7 South_Asian 2.72
8 East_Asian 2.08
9 East_African 1.21
10 Southeast_Asian 0.71
11 Northwest_African 0.4
12 Sub_Saharan 0.02

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Kurd (Dodecad) 8.35
2 Iranian (Dodecad) 8.77
3 Kurds (Yunusbayev) 9.14
4 Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) 9.65
5 Iranians (Behar) 9.67
6 Turks (Behar) 12.07
7 Turkish (Dodecad) 13.95
8 Lebanese (Behar) 15.23
9 Turkmens (Yunusbayev) 15.25
10 Iranian_Jews (Behar) 15.57
11 Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) 15.88
12 Iraq_Jews (Behar) 16.04
13 Georgia_Jews (Behar) 16.06
14 Assyrian (Dodecad) 16.32
15 Syrians (Behar) 16.62
16 Armenians_15 (Yunusbayev) 18.41
17 Armenian (Dodecad) 18.89
18 Jordanians (Behar) 18.97
19 Kumyks (Yunusbayev) 19.65
20 Druze (HGDP) 19.72

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 63.2% Iraq_Jews (Behar) + 36.8% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) @ 3.04
2 51.3% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) + 48.7% Iraq_Jews (Behar) @ 3.65
3 58.2% Druze (HGDP) + 41.8% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) @ 3.73
4 50% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) + 50% Lebanese (Behar) @ 3.93
5 75.4% Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) + 24.6% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) @ 4.02
6 62.7% Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) + 37.3% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) @ 4.07
7 56.8% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) + 43.2% Druze (HGDP) @ 4.08
8 52.3% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) + 47.7% Syrians (Behar) @ 4.27
9 64.2% Iranian_Jews (Behar) + 35.8% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) @ 4.28
10 74.7% Iranians (Behar) + 25.3% Ashkenazi (Dodecad) @ 4.58
11 74.1% Iranians (Behar) + 25.9% Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) @ 4.63
12 77% Iranian (Dodecad) + 23% Morocco_Jews (Behar) @ 4.83
13 63.2% Assyrian (Dodecad) + 36.8% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) @ 4.85
14 81.3% Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) + 18.7% Uzbeks (Behar) @ 4.86
15 50.6% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) + 49.4% Iranian_Jews (Behar) @ 4.87
16 64.5% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) + 35.5% Samaritians (Behar) @ 4.88
17 68.6% Iranian (Dodecad) + 31.4% Syrians (Behar) @ 4.89
18 83.6% Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) + 16.4% Hazara (HGDP) @ 4.95
19 71.8% Iranian (Dodecad) + 28.2% Jordanians (Behar) @ 5.04
20 76% Iranian (Dodecad) + 24% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) @ 5.06


Updated Oracle


Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Turkmen_Iraq @ 3,827684
2 Azerbaijani_Iran @ 4,994616
3 Kurd_Sorani @ 5,088668
4 Kurd_Kurmanji @ 5,183563
5 Azerbaijani @ 5,396579
6 Turk_Southeast @ 5,776591
7 Azerbaijani_Turkey @ 6,660827
8 Zaza @ 6,847097
9 Lur_Iran @ 7,93216
10 Talysh_Azerbaijan @ 8,270138
11 Iranian @ 9,376979
12 Kurd_KAZ @ 9,591617
13 Turk_Central_East @ 9,79781
14 Turk_South @ 9,980488
15 Uzbekistan_Jews @ 10,454612
16 Turk_East @ 11,116207
17 Turk_Central_West @ 11,223181
18 Udi_Azerbaijan @ 11,233965
19 Turk_Anatolia @ 11,290788
20 Turk_Central_Black_Sea @ 11,401392
21 Turk_Southwest @ 13,506148
22 Iran_Mazandaran @ 13,708564
23 Turk_West_BlackSea @ 13,746668
24 Assyrian @ 14,297848
25 Azerbaijani_Dagestan @ 14,476206
26 Yoruk @ 14,676357
27 Armenian_West @ 15,278444
28 Nusayri_Turkey @ 15,366653
29 Turk_Northwest @ 15,755997
30 Turkmen_Iran @ 15,851604
335 iterations.

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 Kurd_Sorani+Turk_Southeast @ 3,090164
2 Lur_Iran+Turk_Southeast @ 3,22117
3 Azerbaijani+Turkmen_Iraq @ 3,318759
4 Azerbaijani_Iran+Turkmen_Iraq @ 3,410706
5 Turk_Southeast+Turkmen_Iraq @ 3,431025
6 Lur_Iran+Turk_South @ 3,705758
7 Azerbaijani+Kurd_Sorani @ 3,727805
8 Turkmen_Iraq+Turkmen_Iraq @ 3,827684
9 Iraq_Jews+Turkmens @ 3,84073
10 Lur_Iran+Turk_Central_West @ 3,898774
11 Iraq_Jews+Turkmen_Iran @ 3,910542
12 Kurd_Kurmanji+Turk_Southeast @ 3,92342
13 Assyrian+Turkmen_Iran @ 3,967607
14 Azerbaijani_Turkey+Turkmen_Iraq @ 3,977769
15 Kurd_Kurmanji+Turkmen_Iraq @ 4,010424
16 Azerbaijani_Iran+Kurd_Sorani @ 4,051814
17 Lur_Iran+Turk_Anatolia @ 4,055572
18 Kurd_Sorani+Turk_South @ 4,128627
19 Kurd_Sorani+Turkmen_Iraq @ 4,147429
20 Azerbaijani_Turkey+Kurd_Sorani @ 4,265316
21 Iranian+Turk_Southeast @ 4,31654
22 Lur_Iran+Turk_Central_East @ 4,35756
23 Nusayri_Turkey+Turkmens @ 4,357648
24 Azerbaijani+Kurd_Kurmanji @ 4,472823
25 Lur_Iran+Turk_Southwest @ 4,484466
26 Lebanese+Turkmens @ 4,493798
27 Azerbaijani+Lur_Iran @ 4,548957
28 Assyrian+Turkmens @ 4,616078
29 Kurd_Sorani+Turk_Central_East @ 4,63312
30 Azerbaijani_Iran+Kurd_Kurmanji @ 4,652538
56280 iterations.

Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Kurd_Kurmanji +25% Syrians +25% Turkmens @ 1,715646
2 50% Kurd_Kurmanji +25% Syrians +25% Turkmen_Iran @ 2,12231
3 50% Zaza +25% Syrians +25% Turkmens @ 2,125582
4 50% Zaza +25% Syrians +25% Turkmen_Iran @ 2,397797
5 50% Iranian +25% Syrians +25% Yoruk @ 2,440393
6 50% Kurd_Sorani +25% Nusayri_Turkey +25% Turkmens @ 2,510246
7 50% Kurd_Kurmanji +25% Jordanians +25% Turkmens @ 2,515449
8 50% Turkmen_Iraq +25% Nusayri_Turkey +25% Turkmens @ 2,518644
9 50% Turkmen_Iraq +25% Iraq_Jews +25% Tajik_Tajikistan @ 2,572002
10 50% Kurd_Sorani +25% Nusayri_Turkey +25% Turkmen_Iran @ 2,57833
11 50% Turkmen_Iraq +25% Lur_Iran +25% Turk_Southwest @ 2,592278
12 50% Turk_Southeast +25% Iraq_Jews +25% Tajik_Herat @ 2,627548
13 50% Turkmens +25% Assyrian +25% Syrians @ 2,63671
14 50% Kurd_Sorani +25% Syrians +25% Turkmens @ 2,656856
15 50% Kurd_KAZ +25% Syrians +25% Turkmen_Uzbekistan @ 2,660444
16 50% Turkmen_Iraq +25% Lur_Iran +25% Turk_Northwest @ 2,67936
17 50% Kurd_Kurmanji +25% Lebanese +25% Turkmens @ 2,679913
18 50% Turkmen_Iraq +25% Syrians +25% Turkmens @ 2,682005
19 50% Azerbaijani_Iran +25% Syrians +25% Turkmens @ 2,688335
20 50% Zaza +25% Jordanians +25% Turkmens @ 2,70511
21 50% Turkmen_Iraq +25% Druze +25% Tajiks @ 2,707781
22 50% Iraq_Jews +25% Tajiks +25% Turk_Southeast @ 2,71386
23 50% Iranian +25% Syrians +25% Turk_Northwest @ 2,714923
24 50% Turkmens +25% Armenian_West +25% Syrians @ 2,715458
25 50% Lur_Iran +25% Turk_Northwest +25% Turkmen_Iraq @ 2,723935
26 50% Iranian +25% Syrians +25% Turk_Southwest @ 2,744771
27 50% Turk_Southeast +25% Iranian_Jews +25% Tajik_Herat @ 2,745915
28 50% Turkmen_Iraq +25% Turkmen_Iran +25% Uzbekistan_Jews @ 2,748922
29 50% Kurd_Sorani +25% Lebanese +25% Turkmens @ 2,752538
30 50% Lur_Iran +25% Syrians +25% Turkmen_Iran @ 2,7558
7929301 iterations.

Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Kurd_Kurmanji+Kurd_Kurmanji+Syrians+Turkmens @ 1,715646
2 Iranian+Syrians+Turk_Southeast+Turkmens @ 1,77625
3 Kurd_Kurmanji+Syrians+Turkmens+Zaza @ 1,838461
4 Lur_Iran+Syrians+Turk_Southeast+Turkmens @ 1,850297
5 Kurd_KAZ+Syrians+Turk_Southeast+Turkmens @ 1,900041
6 Azerbaijani_Turkey+Lur_Iran+Syrians+Turkmens @ 1,951224
7 Kurd_Kurmanji+Syrians+Turkmen_Iraq+Turkmens @ 1,974617
8 Azerbaijani_Iran+Kurd_Kurmanji+Syrians+Turkmens @ 2,004964
9 Syrians+Turkmen_Iraq+Turkmens+Zaza @ 2,008923
10 Azerbaijani+Lur_Iran+Syrians+Turkmens @ 2,012336
11 Iranian+Kurd_Kurmanji+Syrians+Turkmen_Iran @ 2,01777
12 Lur_Iran+Syrians+Turkmen_Iran+Zaza @ 2,024736
13 Assyrian+Iranian+Syrians+Tajik_Tajikistan @ 2,039535
14 Kurd_Kurmanji+Lur_Iran+Syrians+Turkmen_Iran @ 2,040747
15 Iranian+Syrians+Turkmen_Iran+Turkmen_Iraq @ 2,053423
16 Kurd_Kurmanji+Kurd_Sorani+Syrians+Turkmens @ 2,076223
17 Kurd_Sorani+Syrians+Turkmens+Zaza @ 2,077316
18 Iranian+Syrians+Turkmen_Iraq+Turkmens @ 2,080884
19 Azerbaijan_Jews+Kurd_Kurmanji+Syrians+Tajiks @ 2,082465
20 Azerbaijani_Iran+Syrians+Turkmens+Zaza @ 2,084851
21 Iranian+Syrians+Turkmen_Iran+Zaza @ 2,090524
22 Armenian_West+Lur_Iran+Syrians+Tajiks @ 2,099074
23 Lur_Iran+Syrians+Turk_Central_East+Turkmens @ 2,101824
24 Azerbaijani_Iran+Lur_Iran+Syrians+Turkmens @ 2,120106
25 Kurd_Kurmanji+Kurd_Kurmanji+Syrians+Turkmen_Iran @ 2,12231
26 Assyrian+Syrians+Tajiks+Zaza @ 2,123367
27 Syrians+Talysh_Azerbaijan+Turkmen_Iraq+Turkmens @ 2,125306
28 Syrians+Turkmens+Zaza+Zaza @ 2,125582
29 Azerbaijan_Jews+Syrians+Tajiks+Turkmen_Iraq @ 2,135613
30 Assyrian+Lur_Iran+Syrians+Tajik_Tajikistan @ 2,136247
31 Azerbaijani+Kurd_KAZ+Syrians+Turkmens @ 2,143079
32 Kurd_KAZ+Kurd_Kurmanji+Syrians+Turkmen_Iran @ 2,150193
33 Azerbaijani_Turkey+Kurd_Kurmanji+Syrians+Turkmens @ 2,169598
34 Kurd_Kurmanji+Lur_Iran+Syrians+Turkmens @ 2,171771
35 Azerbaijani+Kurd_Kurmanji+Syrians+Turkmens @ 2,17398
36 Assyrian+Kurd_Kurmanji+Syrians+Tajiks @ 2,17602
37 Kurd_Kurmanji+Syrians+Turkmen_Iran+Zaza @ 2,185402
38 Azerbaijani_Turkey+Kurd_Sorani+Syrians+Turkmens @ 2,185519
39 Kurd_Kurmanji+Syrians+Talysh_Azerbaijan+Turkmens @ 2,192266
40 Lur_Iran+Syrians+Turkmens+Zaza @ 2,194587
41 Iranian+Syrians+Turk_Central_East+Turkmens @ 2,203841
42 Azerbaijani+Iranian+Syrians+Turkmens @ 2,210708
43 Azerbaijani_Iran+Kurd_Sorani+Syrians+Turkmens @ 2,211837
44 Azerbaijan_Jews+Azerbaijani_Iran+Syrians+Tajiks @ 2,22259
45 Azerbaijani_Turkey+Iranian+Syrians+Turkmens @ 2,230605
46 Azerbaijani+Syrians+Turkmens+Zaza @ 2,232045
47 Azerbaijani_Iran+Kurd_KAZ+Syrians+Turkmens @ 2,234044
48 Iranian+Kurd_Kurmanji+Syrians+Turkmens @ 2,248194
49 Iraq_Jews+Lur_Iran+Nusayri_Turkey+Tajiks @ 2,249795
50 Azerbaijani_Turkey+Kurd_KAZ+Syrians+Turkmens @ 2,255388
51 Kurd_KAZ+Syrians+Turkmen_Iraq+Turkmens @ 2,259478
52 Assyrian+Azerbaijani_Turkey+Syrians+Tajiks @ 2,263947
53 Azerbaijani_Turkey+Lur_Iran+Syrians+Turkmen_Iran @ 2,26582
54 Assyrian+Azerbaijani_Iran+Syrians+Tajiks @ 2,271649
55 Armenian_West+Lur_Iran+Syrians+Tajik_Tajikistan @ 2,271901
56 Azerbaijani_Iran+Lur_Iran+Syrians+Turkmen_Iran @ 2,272861
57 Azerbaijani_Iran+Syrians+Turkmen_Iraq+Turkmens @ 2,27348
58 Kurd_KAZ+Kurd_Kurmanji+Syrians+Turkmens @ 2,281012
59 Azerbaijan_Jews+Syrians+Tajiks+Zaza @ 2,299716
60 Iraq_Jews+Tajik_Herat+Turk_Southeast+Turkmen_Iraq @ 2,307057
39569896 iterations.

[Dr_Maul]

Turkish Cypriot

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 34.57
2 Atlantic_Med 19.06
3 Southwest_Asian 17.82
4 Gedrosia 8.41
5 North_European 7.82
6 East_African 4.38
7 Northwest_African 3.46
8 Sub_Saharan 2.48
9 South_Asian 1.65
10 Southeast_Asian 0.32
11 East_Asian 0.05

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Sephardic_Jews (Behar) 10.08
2 Morocco_Jews (Behar) 11.3
3 Lebanese (Behar) 11.88
4 Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) 12.25
5 Ashkenazi (Dodecad) 12.39
6 S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) 13.35
7 Syrians (Behar) 13.74
8 Sicilian (Dodecad) 13.87
9 Jordanians (Behar) 14.38
10 Cypriots (Behar) 14.97
11 Palestinian (HGDP) 16.29
12 Turkish (Dodecad) 16.63
13 Druze (HGDP) 17.34
14 Greek (Dodecad) 17.92
15 Turks (Behar) 17.99
16 Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) 19.18
17 C_Italian (Dodecad) 20.36
18 Iraq_Jews (Behar) 20.42
19 Egyptans (Behar) 20.91
20 Georgia_Jews (Behar) 21.86

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 61.3% Jordanians (Behar) + 38.7% O_Italian (Dodecad) @ 3.42
2 63.1% Jordanians (Behar) + 36.9% Tuscan (HGDP) @ 3.79
3 64.1% Jordanians (Behar) + 35.9% TSI30 (Metspalu) @ 3.93
4 59.1% Jordanians (Behar) + 40.9% C_Italian (Dodecad) @ 3.93
5 68.6% Jordanians (Behar) + 31.4% N_Italian (Dodecad) @ 4.06
6 77.9% Lebanese (Behar) + 22.1% Galicia (1000Genomes) @ 4.26
7 78% Lebanese (Behar) + 22% Extremadura (1000Genomes) @ 4.33
8 80.4% Lebanese (Behar) + 19.6% Cantabria (1000Genomes) @ 4.38
9 77.8% Lebanese (Behar) + 22.2% Baleares (1000Genomes) @ 4.41
10 67.3% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 32.7% Yemenese (Behar) @ 4.42
11 69.6% Jordanians (Behar) + 30.4% North_Italian (HGDP) @ 4.42
12 79.1% Lebanese (Behar) + 20.9% Castilla_Y_Leon (1000Genomes) @ 4.43
13 79.9% Lebanese (Behar) + 20.1% Cataluna (1000Genomes) @ 4.45
14 78.1% Lebanese (Behar) + 21.9% Portuguese (Dodecad) @ 4.48
15 58.4% Palestinian (HGDP) + 41.6% O_Italian (Dodecad) @ 4.49
16 79.6% Lebanese (Behar) + 20.4% Spaniards (Behar) @ 4.49
17 79.7% Lebanese (Behar) + 20.3% Spanish (Dodecad) @ 4.51
18 80.4% Lebanese (Behar) + 19.6% Valencia (1000Genomes) @ 4.53
19 73.3% Lebanese (Behar) + 26.7% N_Italian (Dodecad) @ 4.55
20 80.7% Lebanese (Behar) + 19.3% Aragon (1000Genomes) @ 4.58

[Bender1999]

Turkish Cypriot

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 34.57
2 Atlantic_Med 19.06
3 Southwest_Asian 17.82
4 Gedrosia 8.41
5 North_European 7.82
6 East_African 4.38
7 Northwest_African 3.46
8 Sub_Saharan 2.48
9 South_Asian 1.65
10 Southeast_Asian 0.32
11 East_Asian 0.05


To be honest, no doubt that is a Cypriotic Turk, but i don’t think that those results represent all. It is well documented that many Yörüks from Taurus mountains were deported to Cyprus? So idk whether they reached the island, died or leaved it before they left any traces. This person has no Turkic input, just native Cypriot.

[Dr_Maul]

To be honest, no doubt that is a Cypriotic Turk, but i don’t think that those results represent all. It is well documented that many Yörüks from Taurus mountains were deported to Cyprus? So idk whether they reached the island, died or leaved it before they left any traces. This person has no Turkic input, just native Cypriot.

Yes although it is possible that they have a recent non-Turkish ancestor judging by the SSA. Also some calculators give them 1-2 Mongoloid so its not completely native either.
I got the kit from this video, it has the kit number in the description if you want to check it out
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzBcIEEqgEg&ab_channel=KeironKrut

[Leto]

A banned user (Turkish Cypriot)

lonewolfcypriot(Turkish_Cypriot),7.56,0.81,4.00,1. 23,21.14,6.30,0,2.83,16.85,0,38.22,1.04

He claimed distance Sudanese Ottoman-era ancestry.

[altaic]

Dodecad k12b is the best calc for me as a Central/East Anatolian...
(%0.8 NW Euro/Scandinavia + %0.8 E Asian/Native America + 98% W Asian @23andme)

Gedrosia 18.48 Pct
Siberian 2.40 Pct
Northwest_African -
Southeast_Asian 0.21 Pct
Atlantic_Med 11.76 Pct
North_European 10.08 Pct
South_Asian 2.05 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 12.77 Pct
East_Asian 1.11 Pct
Caucasus 40.41 Pct
Sub_Saharan 0.69 Pct

Single Population Approximation List:

1. Turk_Anatolia_Southeast @ 3,735934
2. Turk_Anatolia_East @ 4,424434
3. Turk_Anatolia_Central_East @ 4,831532
4. Azerbaijani_Turkey @ 4,899755
5. Azerbaijani_Karabakh @ 4,980261
6. Azerbaijani @ 5,218659
7. Turk_Anatolia_Central_Black_Sea @ 6,061048
8. Azerbaijani_Iran @ 6,117214
9. Turk_Anatolia_Central_West @ 6,844896
10. Turk_Anatolia_South @ 6,848385
11. Azerbaijani_North-West @ 6,891117
12. Zaza @ 7,401398
13. Kurd_Kurmanji @ 7,507963
14. Udi @ 7,615866
15. Turkmen_Iraq @ 8,3242
16. Kurd_Sorani @ 9,566264
17. Talysh_Azerbaijan @ 9,683058
18. Greek_Kayseri @ 9,872475
19. Armenian_East @ 9,975551
20. Turk_Anatolia_West_Black_Sea @ 10,028564

2-Population Approximation List:

1. %79 Armenian_West + %21 DA59_TianShanSaka @ 1,497426
2. %79 Armenian_West + %21 DA81_TianShanHun @ 1,604093
3. %6 Russian_Tver + %94 Turk_Anatolia_East @ 1,701592
4. %6 Russian_Smolensk + %94 Turk_Anatolia_East @ 1,722981
5. %79 Armenian_West + %21 DA47_TianShanSaka @ 1,73762
6. %80 Armenian_West + %20 DA85_TianShanHun @ 1,74357
7. %6 Swedish + %94 Turk_Anatolia_East @ 1,846904
8. %6 Norwegian + %94 Turk_Anatolia_East @ 1,89333
9. %6 Russian_Pinega + %94 Turk_Anatolia_East @ 1,9236
10. %88 Turk_Anatolia_East + %12 Turk_Romania @ 1,988394
11. %7 German + %93 Turk_Anatolia_East @ 1,993411
12. %5 FIN30 + %95 Turk_Anatolia_East @ 1,993636
13. %5 Finnish + %95 Turk_Anatolia_East @ 2,04125
14. %7 Hungarians + %93 Turk_Anatolia_East @ 2,050115
15. %6 Russian_Kostroma + %94 Turk_Anatolia_East @ 2,069413
16. %8 Bosnian + %92 Turk_Anatolia_East @ 2,073327
17. %79 Azerbaijani + %21 Greek_Ikaria @ 2,074869
18. %6 Dutch + %94 Turk_Anatolia_East @ 2,078983
19. %8 Szekely + %92 Turk_Anatolia_East @ 2,09106
20. %6 Orkney + %94 Turk_Anatolia_East @ 2,100319

[Bender1999]

Yes although it is possible that they have a recent non-Turkish ancestor judging by the SSA. Also some calculators give them 1-2 Mongoloid so its not completely native either.
I got the kit from this video, it has the kit number in the description if you want to check it out
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzBcIEEqgEg&ab_channel=KeironKrut

Yes the high African is noticeable, but it seems many have it from this island. They are literally a mix of Anatolians and Levantines + minor Greek/Turkish/African. But it is just curious that Turks there don’t show appreciable Turkic genetic influence. Turks who were settled outside of Anatolia nearly everytime left remarkable Turkic influence, even Palestine Turkmens(although to be honest i just saw one result) show Turkic traces and that is really something special.

[Kyp]

100% Baloch from Sarbaz SouthEast Iran:

Gedrosian: 47.33
Siberian: 0.00
Northwest_African: 0.00
Southeast_Asian: 1.01
Atlantic_Med: 1.90
North_European: 4.08
South_Asian 10.37
East_African 0.00
Southwest_Asian: 10.34
East_Asian: 0.00
Caucasian: 19.54
Sub-Saharan: 5.41

Distance to: Baloch_Sarbaz
13.58938188 Iran_Bandari
18.37074032 Tajik_Panjshir&Kapisa
19.24427447 Makrani
19.51477901 Pashtun_Kandahar
20.28737046 Pathan
20.68315498 Tajik_Herat
20.90476022 Pashtun_Tarkalani
21.47003493 Nuristani
21.62762585 Pashtun_Uthmankhel
21.64060535 Tajik_Kabul
21.87293533 Pashtun_Yusafzai
21.99515174 Parsi_India
22.28886045 Kalash
22.99704546 Balochi
23.15763373 Kho
24.29604083 Tajiks
24.92812869 Burusho
25.95268580 Turkmens
26.27565413 Iran_Khorasan
26.31125235 Iran_Mazandaran
26.63175924 Iranian_Fars
26.72956790 Pamiri_Ishkashim
27.47421336 Yagnobi
27.48366060 Sindhi
27.80697215 Tajik_Tajikistan

Target: Baloch_Sarbaz
Distance: 2.8947% / 2.89474592 | ADC: 0.25x
54.0 Iran_Bandari
41.8 Makrani
4.2 Iran_Mazandaran

[Thracian]

Dodecad k12b is the best calc for me as a Central/East Anatolian...
(%0.8 NW Euro/Scandinavia + %0.8 E Asian/Native America + 98% W Asian @23andme)

Gedrosia 18.48 Pct
Siberian 2.40 Pct
Northwest_African -
Southeast_Asian 0.21 Pct
Atlantic_Med 11.76 Pct
North_European 10.08 Pct
South_Asian 2.05 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 12.77 Pct
East_Asian 1.11 Pct
Caucasus 40.41 Pct
Sub_Saharan 0.69 Pct

Single Population Approximation List:

1. Turk_Anatolia_Southeast @ 3,735934
2. Turk_Anatolia_East @ 4,424434
3. Turk_Anatolia_Central_East @ 4,831532
4. Azerbaijani_Turkey @ 4,899755
5. Azerbaijani_Karabakh @ 4,980261
6. Azerbaijani @ 5,218659
7. Turk_Anatolia_Central_Black_Sea @ 6,061048
8. Azerbaijani_Iran @ 6,117214
9. Turk_Anatolia_Central_West @ 6,844896
10. Turk_Anatolia_South @ 6,848385
11. Azerbaijani_North-West @ 6,891117
12. Zaza @ 7,401398
13. Kurd_Kurmanji @ 7,507963
14. Udi @ 7,615866
15. Turkmen_Iraq @ 8,3242
16. Kurd_Sorani @ 9,566264
17. Talysh_Azerbaijan @ 9,683058
18. Greek_Kayseri @ 9,872475
19. Armenian_East @ 9,975551
20. Turk_Anatolia_West_Black_Sea @ 10,028564

2-Population Approximation List:

1. %79 Armenian_West + %21 DA59_TianShanSaka @ 1,497426
2. %79 Armenian_West + %21 DA81_TianShanHun @ 1,604093
3. %6 Russian_Tver + %94 Turk_Anatolia_East @ 1,701592
4. %6 Russian_Smolensk + %94 Turk_Anatolia_East @ 1,722981
5. %79 Armenian_West + %21 DA47_TianShanSaka @ 1,73762
6. %80 Armenian_West + %20 DA85_TianShanHun @ 1,74357
7. %6 Swedish + %94 Turk_Anatolia_East @ 1,846904
8. %6 Norwegian + %94 Turk_Anatolia_East @ 1,89333
9. %6 Russian_Pinega + %94 Turk_Anatolia_East @ 1,9236
10. %88 Turk_Anatolia_East + %12 Turk_Romania @ 1,988394
11. %7 German + %93 Turk_Anatolia_East @ 1,993411
12. %5 FIN30 + %95 Turk_Anatolia_East @ 1,993636
13. %5 Finnish + %95 Turk_Anatolia_East @ 2,04125
14. %7 Hungarians + %93 Turk_Anatolia_East @ 2,050115
15. %6 Russian_Kostroma + %94 Turk_Anatolia_East @ 2,069413
16. %8 Bosnian + %92 Turk_Anatolia_East @ 2,073327
17. %79 Azerbaijani + %21 Greek_Ikaria @ 2,074869
18. %6 Dutch + %94 Turk_Anatolia_East @ 2,078983
19. %8 Szekely + %92 Turk_Anatolia_East @ 2,09106
20. %6 Orkney + %94 Turk_Anatolia_East @ 2,100319

According to this, you most likely have 1/8 Balkan Turkish ancestry. I also noticed in other calculators. You had Bulgarian etc... especially on K13.

[altaic]

According to this, you most likely have 1/8 Balkan Turkish ancestry. I also noticed in other calculators. You had Bulgarian etc... especially on K13.

Could be. I have possible distant relatives on 23andme from Bulgaria and Balkan area. Fifth cousin etc.. some Polish as well. Does not make sense when I compare the percentages but it appears on the list. I actually had Balkan 1-2% on the first 23andme version and it is now NorthWestern/Scandinavian + minor Broadly Euro. I am wondering how it will appear on 5.9 version... I have slightly higher Euro percentages compare to Eastern Anatolian (still lower than Western Turks), that is why it pulls me and model as minor European, I think...

[Demhat]

100% Baloch from Sarbaz SouthEast Iran:

Gedrosian: 47.33
Siberian: 0.00
Northwest_African: 0.00
Southeast_Asian: 1.01
Atlantic_Med: 1.90
North_European: 4.08
South_Asian 10.37
East_African 0.00
Southwest_Asian: 10.34
East_Asian: 0.00
Caucasian: 19.54
Sub-Saharan: 5.41

Distance to: Baloch_Sarbaz
13.58938188 Iran_Bandari
18.37074032 Tajik_Panjshir&Kapisa
19.24427447 Makrani
19.51477901 Pashtun_Kandahar
20.28737046 Pathan
20.68315498 Tajik_Herat
20.90476022 Pashtun_Tarkalani
21.47003493 Nuristani
21.62762585 Pashtun_Uthmankhel
21.64060535 Tajik_Kabul
21.87293533 Pashtun_Yusafzai
21.99515174 Parsi_India
22.28886045 Kalash
22.99704546 Balochi
23.15763373 Kho
24.29604083 Tajiks
24.92812869 Burusho
25.95268580 Turkmens
26.27565413 Iran_Khorasan
26.31125235 Iran_Mazandaran
26.63175924 Iranian_Fars
26.72956790 Pamiri_Ishkashim
27.47421336 Yagnobi
27.48366060 Sindhi
27.80697215 Tajik_Tajikistan

Target: Baloch_Sarbaz
Distance: 2.8947% / 2.89474592 | ADC: 0.25x
54.0 Iran_Bandari
41.8 Makrani
4.2 Iran_Mazandaran

I don't unerstand why even Baloch from Southeast Iran have such high levels of SSA admixture. It was expectable in Balochis from South Iran/Hormozgan.
But even Balochis from Balochistan have it.

Edit: actually he clusters closer with Iran_Bandari than Balochi, which shows he doesn't seem to be typical for a Baloch from the Balochistan province. Likely a little Makrani mixed.

[altaic]

Could be. I have possible distant relatives on 23andme from Bulgaria and Balkan area. Fifth cousin etc.. some Polish as well. Does not make sense when I compare the percentages but it appears on the list. I actually had Balkan 1-2% on the first 23andme version and it is now NorthWestern/Scandinavian + minor Broadly Euro. I am wondering how it will appear on 5.9 version... I have slightly higher Euro percentages compare to Eastern Anatolian (still lower than Western Turks), that is why it pulls me and model as minor European, I think...

Example; Bulgarian, predicted 4th cousin 0.26% DNA shared, 1 segment

https://i.ibb.co/zrFSvDZ/4th-cous.jpg

Example; Polish, predicted 4th cousin 0.25% DNA shared, 3 segment

https://i.ibb.co/vHyfsKB/4th-cous-pol.jpg

[Thracian]

Could be. I have possible distant relatives on 23andme from Bulgaria and Balkan area. Fifth cousin etc.. some Polish as well. Does not make sense when I compare the percentages but it appears on the list. I actually had Balkan 1-2% on the first 23andme version and it is now NorthWestern/Scandinavian + minor Broadly Euro. I am wondering how it will appear on 5.9 version... I have slightly higher Euro percentages compare to Eastern Anatolian (still lower than Western Turks), that is why it pulls me and model as minor European, I think...

Relatives are always more important than admixture breakdowns of companies, as you know they always tend to update their results to reach better one. I don't expect better breakdowns on v5.9 as well. That makes sense but as I mentioned if you have some relatives from Bulgaria that can be an indicator for a Balkan Turkish ancestry up to 1/8.

[Thracian]

Example; Bulgarian, predicted 4th cousin 0.26% DNA shared, 1 segment

https://i.ibb.co/zrFSvDZ/4th-cous.jpg

Example; Polish, predicted 4th cousin 0.25% DNA shared, 3 segment

https://i.ibb.co/vHyfsKB/4th-cous-pol.jpg

Maybe you should ask her if she has some Eastern Anatolian ancestry. If she doesn't have any, the connection can be related with a minor Balkan Turkish ancestry.

[Aren]

southern Armenians

Distance to: Armenian_Syunik1
1.53987012 Armenian_Karabakh
2.79622960 Armenian_East
3.56719778 Armenian_West
4.48209772 Armenian_Iran
4.83397352 Turk_East
5.71149718 Udi_Azerbaijan
5.76897738 Assyrian_North
5.84350066 Azeri_Jew
6.03109443 Assyrian_West
6.27377080 Assyrian_South
7.39818897 Georgia_Jews
7.76786972 Turk_East_Black_Sea
7.93894829 Greek_Pontus
8.18399658 Turk_Ahiska
9.03311131 Zaza
9.07771998 Iranian_Jew
9.18456314 Hemshin
9.65304097 Mandean
10.20839361 Iraqi_Jew
10.25249726 Laz
10.70719384 Greek_Cappadocia
10.76994893 Azerbaijani_Turkey
10.90787330 Kurd_Kurmanji
11.20471329 Talysh_Azerbaijan
11.34628133 Turkmen_Iraq


Distance to: Armenian_Syunik2
1.65526433 Armenian_Karabakh
3.76581996 Armenian_East
4.51986725 Armenian_West
4.77171877 Armenian_Iran
5.58227552 Azeri_Jew
5.66316166 Assyrian_North
5.85697874 Turk_East
5.88979626 Udi_Azerbaijan
6.26868407 Assyrian_West
6.30689305 Assyrian_South
6.34290943 Georgia_Jews
7.97712354 Turk_Ahiska
8.33943044 Turk_East_Black_Sea
8.61838732 Greek_Pontus
8.81287694 Zaza
8.82767806 Iranian_Jew
9.13465380 Hemshin
9.33777811 Mandean
10.18700152 Iraqi_Jew
10.22987781 Laz
10.65611092 Talysh_Azerbaijan
10.80040740 Kurd_Kurmanji
11.02356113 Kurd_KAZ
11.15681406 Azerbaijani_Turkey
11.26661440 Turkmen_Iraq


Distance to: Armenian_Syunik3
2.75633815 Armenian_Karabakh
3.94693552 Armenian_East
4.02090786 Armenian_West
4.76034663 Turk_East
5.62919177 Udi_Azerbaijan
5.87711664 Assyrian_North
6.01665189 Assyrian_West
6.02870633 Azeri_Jew
6.26890740 Armenian_Iran
6.34225512 Assyrian_South
8.52705694 Zaza
8.78958475 Georgia_Jews
8.97556683 Iranian_Jew
9.04313552 Greek_Pontus
9.05046960 Turk_East_Black_Sea
9.44181127 Turk_Ahiska
9.44829085 Mandean
10.03760928 Greek_Cappadocia
10.04322159 Iraqi_Jew
10.28210582 Kurd_Kurmanji
10.32582200 Azerbaijani_Turkey
10.61559702 Turkmen_Iraq
10.67800543 Hemshin
10.87519195 Turk_Central_East
10.89958256 Nusayri_Turkey


Distance to: Armenian_Syunik4
2.04107815 Armenian_Karabakh
2.65652028 Armenian_East
4.03518277 Turk_East
4.25386883 Udi_Azerbaijan
4.67897425 Armenian_Iran
5.03472939 Armenian_West
6.85558896 Azeri_Jew
6.87078598 Assyrian_North
7.20325621 Assyrian_West
7.28454528 Turk_Ahiska
7.41464767 Assyrian_South
7.81478087 Georgia_Jews
8.09549257 Turk_East_Black_Sea
8.32878743 Zaza
8.65505055 Greek_Pontus
9.41976645 Hemshin
9.95698750 Iranian_Jew
10.04947760 Azerbaijani_Turkey
10.33187785 Kurd_Kurmanji
10.36968177 Laz
10.45817384 Talysh_Azerbaijan
10.49602782 Mandean
11.05386810 Turk_Central_East
11.06306016 Turkmen_Iraq
11.10422442 Kurd_KAZ

and Armenian ancestors from Naxcivan

Gedrosia 21.54
Siberian -
Northwest_African 0.53
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 11.11
North_European 6.26
South_Asian 0.63
East_African 0.14
Southwest_Asian 13.41
East_Asian -
Caucasus 46.30
Sub_Saharan -

Distance to: Armenian_Naxcivan
4.03806885 Armenian_Karabakh
4.60674505 Turk_East
5.67029982 Armenian_East
5.91065986 Zaza
6.78958762 Armenian_West
7.45157030 Azeri_Jew
7.64767285 Assyrian_North
7.81487044 Armenian_Iran
7.92750276 Kurd_Kurmanji
8.15984681 Assyrian_West
8.19308245 Assyrian_South
8.33833317 Talysh_Azerbaijan
8.71142927 Azerbaijani_Turkey
8.80580490 Kurd_KAZ
9.07489945 Turk_Ahiska
9.24381415 Turkmen_Iraq
9.36900742 Azerbaijani_Iran
9.97403629 Kurd_Sorani
9.97968937 Iranian_Jew
10.03257694 Azerbaijani
10.06412440 Mandean
10.30562953 Georgia_Jews
10.42894530 Turk_Southeast
10.68020599 Turk_East_Black_Sea

Interesting results. What is the main difference between the various Armenian groups? Also do you have Armenian kits from south of lake Van?

[Kaspias]

Maybe you should ask her if she has some Eastern Anatolian ancestry. If she doesn't have any, the connection can be related with a minor Balkan Turkish ancestry.

Matches between Balkan Turks and Eastern Anatolians are usually connected with Celali Rebellion in my experience.

Turkmens from the region were expelled, the ones who had stayed ended up with being Zaza or Kurdish.

[Bender1999]

Very interesting result from Satsurblia Cave(Georgia), over 13000 years ago!

Y-DNA: J1 FT33726

Gedrosian: 38.87 Pct
Siberian: -
Northwest_African: -
Southeast_Asian: -
Atlantic_Med: -
North_European: 9.81 Pct
South_Asian 0.59 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian: -
East_Asian: -
Caucasian: 47.87 Pct
Sub-Saharan: 1.87 Pct

[Demhat]

Very interesting result from Satsurblia Cave(Georgia), over 13000 years ago!

Y-DNA: J1 FT33726

Gedrosian: 38.87 Pct
Siberian: -
Northwest_African: -
Southeast_Asian: -
Atlantic_Med: -
North_European: 9.81 Pct
South_Asian 0.59 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian: -
East_Asian: -
Caucasian: 47.87 Pct
Sub-Saharan: 1.87 Pct

Sub Saharan African always turns up in ancient samples. That is because of the quality of the samples. When the calculators can't assign certain genes it automatically gets assigned to SSA.


The more archaic the samples are the more common ancestry to other roups that is natural. At one point Eurasians and SSA had a common origin .

Another possibility is that Satsurbila like ancestry reached South Asia (very likely) and Sub Saharan Africa.

[Bender1999]

Sub Saharan African always turns up in ancient samples. That is because of the quality of the samples. When the calculators can't assign certain genes it automatically gets assigned to SSA.


The more archaic the samples are the more common ancestry to other roups that is natural. At one point Eurasians and SSA had a common origin .

Another possibility is that Satsurbila like ancestry reached South Asia (very likely) and Sub Saharan Africa.

The interesting point was that 13000 years ago someone in Georgia had North European, not the SSA. Normally this region shouldn’t show North European but this person were probably influenced by northern neighbors.

[Leto]

The interesting point was that 13000 years ago someone in Georgia had North European, not the SSA. Normally this region shouldn’t show North European but this person were probably influenced by northern neighbors.
9% North European is perfectly normal for modern Georgia.

[Bender1999]

9% North European is perfectly normal for modern Georgia.

But for a person who lived 13000 years ago?

[Kyp]

But for a person who lived 13000 years ago?

CHG already has EHG shift, while Iran_NEO has southern shift (AASI and Natufian)

[Bender1999]

Another ancient result from nowadays Kazakhstan(3700-300 years ago). I would say obviously no Turkic/preTurkic but too weird for early IE? Maybe some kind of steppe, or?

Botai culture:

Gedrosian: 20.02 Pct
Siberian: 29.44 Pct
Northwest_African: -
Southeast_Asian: -
Atlantic_Med: -
North_European: 47.01 Pct
South_Asian: 3.17 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian: -
East_Asian: -
Caucasian: -
SSA: 0.37 Pct

[Leto]

Another ancient result from nowadays Kazakhstan(3700-300 years ago). I would say obviously no Turkic/preTurkic but too weird for early IE? Maybe some kind of steppe, or?

Gedrosian: 20.02 Pct
Siberian: 29.44 Pct
Northwest_African: -
Southeast_Asian: -
Atlantic_Med: -
North_European: 47.01 Pct
South_Asian: 3.17 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian: -
East_Asian: -
Caucasian: -
SSA: 0.37 Pct
Looks like a low coverage sample, tbh. Not even a Scythian would have scored zero Caucasus and zero Med.

[Bender1999]

Looks like a low coverage sample, tbh. Not even a Scythian would have scored zero Caucasus and zero Med.

The sample is from Botai-culture. It is suspected that this culture either was IE, Proto Turkic or Proto Ugric.

[Bender1999]

I know not from Asia(Ukraine), but the ancestor of many there: Scythian result Y-DNA J2a. Still very Asian influenced but comparing with the Botai result more „accurate“ to classify and definitely an early IE.

Gedrosian: 19.16 Pct
Siberian: 10.25 Pct
Northwest_African: -
Southeast_Asian: 0.86 Pct
Atlantic_Med: 12.56 Pct
North_European: 37.75 Pct
South_Asian: 3,41 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian: -
East_Asian: 3.88 Pct
Caucasian: 10.63 Pct
Sub-Saharan: 1.49 Pct

[Thracian]

Matches between Balkan Turks and Eastern Anatolians are usually connected with Celali Rebellion in my experience.

Turkmens from the region were expelled, the ones who had stayed ended up with being Zaza or Kurdish.

I agree with you. I also think more Iranic influence on some Balkan Turks is related with this for no doubt. Yet, he is usually modeled 1/8 Bulgarian or something like that.

[Demhat]

The interesting point was that 13000 years ago someone in Georgia had North European, not the SSA. Normally this region shouldn’t show North European but this person were probably influenced by northern neighbors.

Vica Versa I would say it is Satsurbila genes in modern North Europeans.

[Leto]

Jatt
He is more European than most Central Asians

Gedrosia 35.43 Pct
Siberian 1.64 Pct
Northwest_African -
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 5.85 Pct
North_European 20.97 Pct
South_Asian 26.19 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 0.61 Pct
East_Asian -
Caucasus 9.31 Pct
Sub_Saharan -

(the oracle is crap because of inadequate references)

Target: Jt
Distance: 1.4720% / 1.47202439 | ADC: 0.25x
22.0 Brahmins_from_Uttar_Pradesh
18.0 Kalash
17.8 Jatt
16.6 Pashtun_Uthmankhel
14.2 Kho
10.4 Swedish
1.0 Norwegian

[Bender1999]

Talysh from Lankaran:

Gedrosian: 26.11 Pct
Siberian: 0.23 Pct
Northwest_African: 0.48 Pct
Southeast_Asian: 0.27 Pct
Atlantic_Med: 6.94 Pct
North_European: 7.11 Pct
South_Asian: 2.74 Pct
East_African: -
Southwest_Asian: 11.00 Pct
East_Asian: 2.39 Pct
Caucasian: 42.74 Pct
SSA: -

[Bender1999]

This Göktürk sample was probably posted here, but imo there are some remarkable things. Comparing to the Botai sample it has East Asian, AtlMed and less Northeuro and less Siberia, but no South Asia and again no Caucasus.

Gedrosia: 23.62 Pct
Siberian: 18.90 Pct
Northwest_African: -
Southeast_Asian: 1.12 Pct
Atlantic_Med: 11.24 Pct
North_European: 26.86 Pct
South_Asian: -
East_African: -
Southwest_Asian: -
East_Asian: 18.09 Pct
Caucasus: -
Sub_Saharan: -

[RatCat]

Does anyone have any Yaghnobi gedmatch results?

[Leto]

Does anyone have any Yaghnobi gedmatch results?
They are in the Vahaduo spreadsheet. Other than those few samples I doubt you'll ever find any as it's a tiny and mostly assimilated community. Even regular Tajiks are scarce on Gedmatch (I've seen like 5 or so only).

[Kyp]

Does anyone have any Yaghnobi gedmatch results?


Yagnobi1,28.88,4.03,0.00,0.00,5.78,23.74,5.00,0.00 ,5.02,3.02,24.52,0.00
Yagnobi2,30.19,3.44,0.00,0.00,8.34,22.10,4.82,0.00 ,4.89,2.80,23.42,0.00
Yagnobi3,29.47,4.70,0.00,1.84,8.84,22.08,4.85,0.00 ,3.88,0.87,23.47,0.00
Yagnobi4,32.56,1.42,0.00,0.00,5.65,21.11,6.68,0.00 ,5.02,3.68,23.87,0.00
Yagnobi5,30.54,6.06,0.06,0.36,7.67,21.60,7.88,0.00 ,2.91,0.91,22.00,0.00
Yagnobi6,33.20,3.85,0.00,0.46,8.96,22.04,4.51,0.00 ,3.18,2.01,21.79,0.00

Average:
Gedrosian: 30.81
Siberian: 3.91
Northwest_African: 0.01
Southeast_Asian: 0.44
Atlantic_Med: 7.62
North_European: 22.11
South_Asian 5.62
East_African 0.00
Southwest_Asian: 4.15
East_Asian: 2.21
Caucasian: 23.18
SSA: 0.00

Distance to: Yagnobi
7.36935547 Pamiri_Rushan
7.89324395 Tajik_Tajikistan
8.36939663 Pamiri_Shughnan
10.04898005 Tajiks
11.60697204 Pamiri_Ishkashim
13.02764369 Tajik_Herat
14.87553024 Pashtun_Kandahar
15.06514852 Tabasaran
15.25325867 Turkmens
15.41820353 Turkmen_Iran
15.50087739 Avar
15.76290582 Dargin
15.81801505 Lezgin
16.37803712 Avar_Dagestan
16.60282807 Lak
16.79585663 Qumuq
17.25264617 Iran_Khorasan
17.90227360 Tajik_Kabul
18.42900160 Tajik_Panjshir&Kapisa
20.17505886 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
20.60453834 Kho
20.67911507 Pashtun_Tarkalani
20.69347240 Pashtun_Uthmankhel
20.82566926 Iran_Bandari
21.39679415 Turkmen_Uzbekistan

From a genetic view point they are similar to what a Early Iranic Pastoralist would've looked like before mixing with the Natives.

[RatCat]

Average:
Gedrosian: 30.81
Siberian: 3.91
Northwest_African: 0.01
Southeast_Asian: 0.44
Atlantic_Med: 7.62
North_European: 22.11
South_Asian 5.62
East_African 0.00
Southwest_Asian: 4.15
East_Asian: 2.21
Caucasian: 23.18
SSA: 0.00

Distance to: Yagnobi
7.36935547 Pamiri_Rushan
7.89324395 Tajik_Tajikistan
8.36939663 Pamiri_Shughnan
10.04898005 Tajiks
11.60697204 Pamiri_Ishkashim
13.02764369 Tajik_Herat
14.87553024 Pashtun_Kandahar
15.06514852 Tabasaran
15.25325867 Turkmens
15.41820353 Turkmen_Iran
15.50087739 Avar
15.76290582 Dargin
15.81801505 Lezgin
16.37803712 Avar_Dagestan
16.60282807 Lak
16.79585663 Qumuq
17.25264617 Iran_Khorasan
17.90227360 Tajik_Kabul
18.42900160 Tajik_Panjshir&Kapisa
20.17505886 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
20.60453834 Kho
20.67911507 Pashtun_Tarkalani
20.69347240 Pashtun_Uthmankhel
20.82566926 Iran_Bandari
21.39679415 Turkmen_Uzbekistan

From a genetic view point they are similar to what a Early Iranic Pastoralist would've looked like before mixing with the Natives.

Yea, i saw them on my eurogenes k13 oracle-4 results. Never heard of them before. They can be modeled as %50 north caucasian on k13 vahaduo and %20 north caucasian on dodecad k12b. But i think eurogenes is not good for west asians.

[RatCat]

edit double post

[Leto]

The Yaghnobis are basically the remnants of Sogdians. Notice how their Atlantic Med ranges from 5 to 8+ percent which is pretty high for that region. The majority of Tajiks in Northern TJK are much more Mongoloid than them, sometimes over 20%.

[Kyp]

Yea, i saw them on my eurogenes k13 oracle-4 results. Never heard of them before. They can be modeled as %50 north caucasian on k13 vahaduo and %20 north caucasian on dodecad k12b. But i think eurogenes is not good for west asians.

I think there is some artificial similarity to North Caucasians on these calculators because they are not perfect in distinguishing Iran_Neolithic and CHG and also the Steppe component is high in both. But yes if you split the ancient components they are similar but I think main component of Yagnobis is Iran_Neo + Steppe and North Caucasians are CHG+Steppe.

[Leto]

I think there is some artificial similarity to North Caucasians on these calculators because they are not perfect in distinguishing Iran_Neolithic and CHG and also the Steppe component is high in both. But yes if you split the ancient components they are similar but I think main component of Yagnobis is Iran_Neo + Steppe and North Caucasians are CHG+Steppe.
Georgia and the NW Caucasus might as well have a bit of Anatolian.

[Leto]

Allegedly an Iraqi Arab (she was on this forum)
T1a7

Gedrosia 5.35 Pct
Siberian 0.51 Pct
Northwest_African 6.40 Pct
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 5.08 Pct
North_European 0.43 Pct
South_Asian 1.02 Pct
East_African 8.85 Pct
Southwest_Asian 43.58 Pct
East_Asian 0.19 Pct
Caucasus 28.59 Pct
Sub_Saharan -

Distance to: m.
5.17167284 Kuwait1
5.95142000 Bedouin
11.92325459 Yemenese
13.81735865 Yemen_Jews
15.04044215 Kuwait2

Target: m.
Distance: 2.6897% / 2.68966798 | ADC: 0.25x
54.4 Kuwait1
22.6 Bedouin
13.8 Yemen_Jews
5.2 Ethiopian_Jews
3.8 Egyptans
0.2 Moroccan

(Arab and East African references might be incorrect)

[Kaazi]

Does anyone have any Yaghnobi gedmatch results?

This is Tajik Ishkashimi sample. Both score similar in nMonte except Ishkashimi score 10% more AASI while Yagnobi scores 10% more ANF. You can explore more in the searches.

Kit: MF7270161 (*TAJIK ISHKASHIM 01)
Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Gedrosia 33.74
2 North_European 21.9
3 Caucasus 16.41
4 South_Asian 13.62
5 Siberian 5.58
6 East_Asian 4.23
7 Atlantic_Med 2.76
8 Southwest_Asian 1.51
9 Southeast_Asian 0.23


Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Tajiks (Yunusbayev) 8.11
2 Pathan (HGDP) 17.2
3 Burusho (HGDP) 18.75
4 Turkmens (Yunusbayev) 19.12
5 Jatt (Dodecad) 23.72
6 Uzbeks (Behar) 29.19
7 Iranians (Behar) 29.48
8 Sindhi (HGDP) 30.01
9 Lezgins (Behar) 30.19
10 Iranian (Dodecad) 30.23
11 Nogais (Yunusbayev) 30.91
12 Bnei_Menashe_Jews (Behar) 31.61
13 Kurd (Dodecad) 31.86
14 Kumyks (Yunusbayev) 32.13
15 Kurds (Yunusbayev) 33.08
16 Brahmins_from_Uttar_Pradesh (Metspalu) 33.09
17 Hazara (HGDP) 34.81
18 Makrani (HGDP) 35.18
19 Uygur (HGDP) 35.69
20 Chechens (Yunusbayev) 35.73

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 83.5% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) + 16.5% Brahmins_from_Uttar_Pradesh (Metspalu) @ 4.88
2 85.8% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) + 14.2% Kshatriya (Metspalu) @ 5.24
3 88.7% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) + 11.3% Kanjars (Metspalu) @ 5.48
4 79.4% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) + 20.6% Jatt (Dodecad) @ 5.48
5 87.6% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) + 12.4% Iyengar (Dodecad) @ 5.5
6 88.7% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) + 11.3% Dharkars (Metspalu) @ 5.55
7 88.5% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) + 11.5% Tharus (Metspalu) @ 5.57
8 88.8% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) + 11.2% Muslim (Metspalu) @ 5.58
9 90.6% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) + 9.4% Kol (Metspalu) @ 5.62
10 89.9% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) + 10.1% Uttar_Pradesh_Scheduled_Caste (Metspalu) @ 5.66
11 91.3% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) + 8.7% Chamar (Metspalu) @ 5.7
12 90.3% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) + 9.7% Dusadh (Metspalu) @ 5.73
13 89% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) + 11% INS30 (SGVP) @ 5.74
14 92% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) + 8% North_Kannadi (Behar) @ 5.75
15 88.8% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) + 11.2% GIH30 (Dodecad) @ 5.75
16 91.4% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) + 8.6% SAKILLI (Behar) @ 5.77
17 87.5% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) + 12.5% Indian (Dodecad) @ 5.78
18 87.3% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) + 12.7% Brahmins_from_Tamil_Nadu (Metspalu) @ 5.79
19 90.9% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) + 9.1% Piramalai_Kallars (Metspalu) @ 5.81
20 90.5% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) + 9.5% Kurumba (Metspalu) @ 5.81

[Dr_Maul]

Central Asian references are so ass

I have rarely seen any Central Asian population except maybe Turkmens to get a decent distance consistently

[Kaspias]

Bulgarian: 1/2 Dobrich. 1/4 Sliven. 1/4 Yambol.


# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 29.85
2 North_European 25.77
3 Atlantic_Med 22.77
4 Southwest_Asian 11.15
5 Gedrosia 6.57
6 Northwest_African 2.9
7 Siberian 0.78
8 East_Asian 0.16
9 Sub_Saharan 0.04


Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Bulgarian (Dodecad) 10.2
2 Greek (Dodecad) 10.45
3 O_Italian (Dodecad) 11.39
4 Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) 11.39
5 Romanians (Behar) 11.73
6 C_Italian (Dodecad) 14.24
7 Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) 14.87
8 Ashkenazi (Dodecad) 15.13
9 S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) 15.72
10 Sicilian (Dodecad) 15.78
11 Tuscan (HGDP) 16.3
12 TSI30 (Metspalu) 16.69
13 N_Italian (Dodecad) 19.23
14 Sephardic_Jews (Behar) 20.59
15 North_Italian (HGDP) 21.85
16 Morocco_Jews (Behar) 22.17
17 Turkish (Dodecad) 24.02
18 Hungarians (Behar) 25.77
19 Turks (Behar) 25.88
20 Cypriots (Behar) 26.89

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 67.7% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) + 32.3% Russian (Dodecad) @ 2.46
2 51.7% German (Dodecad) + 48.3% Druze (HGDP) @ 2.53
3 66.2% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) + 33.8% Mixed_Slav (Dodecad) @ 2.68
4 67% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) + 33% Mordovians (Yunusbayev) @ 2.8
5 67.6% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) + 32.4% Russian_B (Behar) @ 2.94
6 64.6% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) + 35.4% Ukranians (Yunusbayev) @ 2.94
7 72.2% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) + 27.8% Lithuanians (Behar) @ 2.95
8 67.9% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) + 32.1% Belorussian (Behar) @ 2.96
9 70.7% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) + 29.3% Lithuanian (Dodecad) @ 2.97
10 60.2% Cypriots (Behar) + 39.8% Swedish (Dodecad) @ 3.03
11 55.8% Hungarians (Behar) + 44.2% Druze (HGDP) @ 3.28
12 72.9% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 27.1% Mordovians (Yunusbayev) @ 3.32
13 68.2% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) + 31.8% Russian (HGDP) @ 3.33
14 65.8% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) + 34.2% Polish (Dodecad) @ 3.37
15 55.6% Druze (HGDP) + 44.4% Swedish (Dodecad) @ 3.53
16 55.8% Druze (HGDP) + 44.2% Norwegian (Dodecad) @ 3.59
17 71.3% Romanians (Behar) + 28.7% Lebanese (Behar) @ 3.65
18 73.8% Romanians (Behar) + 26.2% Jordanians (Behar) @ 3.66
19 72.8% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) + 27.2% Finnish (Dodecad) @ 3.68
20 51.1% Hungarians (Behar) + 48.9% Cypriots (Behar) @ 3.68

Turk: 1/2 Targovishte. 1/4 Dobrich. 1/4 Burgas.

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 26.5
2 North_European 24.61
3 Atlantic_Med 18.9
4 Gedrosia 9.43
5 Southwest_Asian 8.59
6 Siberian 5.74
7 East_Asian 3.27
8 South_Asian 1.51
9 Northwest_African 1.37
10 East_African 0.08



Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Bulgarian (Dodecad) 14.05
2 Romanians (Behar) 15.04
3 Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) 15.27
4 O_Italian (Dodecad) 16.05
5 Greek (Dodecad) 16.21
6 C_Italian (Dodecad) 19.04
7 Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) 19.09
8 Ashkenazi (Dodecad) 19.61
9 S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) 19.96
10 Sicilian (Dodecad) 20.26
11 Tuscan (HGDP) 20.57
12 TSI30 (Metspalu) 20.97
13 Nogais (Yunusbayev) 21.58
14 N_Italian (Dodecad) 22.66
15 Turkish (Dodecad) 23.54
16 Sephardic_Jews (Behar) 23.96
17 Turks (Behar) 24.78
18 Morocco_Jews (Behar) 25.27
19 North_Italian (HGDP) 25.39
20 Kumyks (Yunusbayev) 26.06

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 64.3% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 35.7% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) @ 5.59
2 65.2% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 34.8% Chuvashs (Behar) @ 5.61
3 60.6% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) + 39.4% Chuvashs (Behar) @ 5.62
4 64.8% Romanians (Behar) + 35.2% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) @ 5.9
5 62.7% Turks (Behar) + 37.3% Norwegian (Dodecad) @ 5.92
6 66.7% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 33.3% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) @ 5.95
7 62.5% Turks (Behar) + 37.5% Swedish (Dodecad) @ 6.11
8 65% Sicilian (Dodecad) + 35% Chuvashs (Behar) @ 6.25
9 63.9% Turkish (Dodecad) + 36.1% Swedish (Dodecad) @ 6.29
10 64% Turkish (Dodecad) + 36% Norwegian (Dodecad) @ 6.3
11 55.9% Turks (Behar) + 44.1% German (Dodecad) @ 6.59
12 66.7% Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) + 33.3% Chuvashs (Behar) @ 6.83
13 77% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 23% Hazara (HGDP) @ 7
14 59.5% Morocco_Jews (Behar) + 40.5% Chuvashs (Behar) @ 7.01
15 72.2% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 27.8% Uzbeks (Behar) @ 7.09
16 58.9% Turks (Behar) + 41.1% Dutch (Dodecad) @ 7.1
17 57.3% Turkish (Dodecad) + 42.7% German (Dodecad) @ 7.12
18 66.1% Ashkenazi (Dodecad) + 33.9% Chuvashs (Behar) @ 7.13
19 52% Turks (Behar) + 48% Hungarians (Behar) @ 7.26
20 67.9% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) + 32.1% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) @ 7.26

[Leto]

Sorry Kaspias but the Bulgarians are full Europeans, they have nothing to do with the Middle East or Asia.

[Kaspias]

Sorry Kaspias but the Bulgarians are full Europeans, they have nothing to do with the Middle East or Asia.

I think it should not be hard to realize that I posted him to compare with the Turk who are from similar regions.

Like:


Since Turkish results are frequently posted here, let's post a (Mainland) Greek for contrast

Gedrosia 3.93
Siberian -
Northwest_African 0.50
Southeast_Asian 0.57
Atlantic_Med 25.65
North_European 22.85
South_Asian -
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 12.74
East_Asian -
Caucasus 33.76
Sub_Saharan -

Distance to: GK
5.79620566 Greek
7.23361099 Italy_Apulia
8.09586314 Turk_Macedonia
9.02712579 Albanian_Kosovo
9.10483388 Turk_Greece
9.13695779 Italy_Abruzzo
9.62031413 Italy_Lazio
9.70034020 Crimean_Tatar_Coast
10.14787170 Albanian_North
10.48426659 Italy_Campania

Target: GK
Distance: 1.1114% / 1.11141487 | ADC: 0.25x
65.6 Greek
29.2 Gagauz
4.8 Saudis
0.4 Bulgarian

Original spreadsheet:

Target: GK
Distance: 1.1699% / 1.16990477 | ADC: 0.25x
65.8 Greek
23.4 Bulgarian
5.4 O_Italian
5.4 Saudis

[Leto]

I think it should not be hard to realize that I posted him to compare with the Turk who are from similar regions.

Like:
Ok. By the way, the Bulgarian has very low North Euro. Pretty much Slav in name only.

[Leto]

Former TA member Prinses, from the East Black Sea. She is ca. 1.5% Mongoloid on multiple calculators

Gedrosia 19.32 Pct
Siberian 0.99 Pct
Northwest_African -
Southeast_Asian 0.52 Pct
Atlantic_Med 11.16 Pct
North_European 4.65 Pct
South_Asian 0.48 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 9.95 Pct
East_Asian -
Caucasus 52.92 Pct
Sub_Saharan -

Distance to: Prinses
4.81226558 Turk_East_Black_Sea
5.00882222 Hemshin
5.06247963 Turk_Ahiska
5.42868308 Laz
5.64457261 Armenian_East
5.87659766 Greek_Pontus
6.84713079 Georgian_Adjara
7.59310213 Armenian_West
7.67775358 Georgian_Turkey
8.36743688 Turk_East

Target: Prinses
Distance: 2.6695% / 2.66950293 | ADC: 0.5x
32.2 Georgian_Adjara
30.2 Turk_East_Black_Sea
21.2 Armenian_East
16.4 Udi_Azerbaijan

Target: Prinses
Distance: 1.4519% / 1.45185095 | ADC: 0.25x
58.4 Georgian_Adjara
14.0 Armenian_West
14.0 Udi_Azerbaijan
10.6 Turk_East
3.0 Sardinian


Must be an Ahiska Turk

Gedrosia 18.33 Pct
Siberian -
Northwest_African 0.73 Pct
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 10.91 Pct
North_European 7.33 Pct
South_Asian -
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 12.43 Pct
East_Asian 0.20 Pct
Caucasus 50.08 Pct
Sub_Saharan -

Distance to: Ispirli
2.00883051 Armenian_East
5.00497752 Turk_East
5.44517217 Udi_Azerbaijan
5.48365754 Turk_Ahiska
5.71167226 Armenian_West
6.00861881 Turk_East_Black_Sea
6.88883154 Greek_Pontus
7.51990027 Hemshin
8.29523960 Laz
8.47999410 Mountain_Jew_Chechnya

Target: Ispirli
Distance: 1.1563% / 1.15625922 | ADC: 0.5x
76.8 Armenian_East
13.6 Turk_Ahiska
9.6 Udi_Azerbaijan

Target: Ispirli
Distance: 0.8087% / 0.80874757 | ADC: 0.25x
68.8 Armenian_East
21.6 Turk_Ahiska
8.8 Udi_Azerbaijan
0.8 Spanish_Basque

I've found a few more Northeast Turkish kits, that region is pretty interesting IMO.

[Kaazi]

This Gedrosia score is very high, 71% omg. Perhaps its around what Makrani gets Iran Neolithic on G25. The oracles are crazzy for this sample; it's nearly on the dead end of the Gedrosian shift.

Kit ES9626713 MAKRANI_HGDP00158
Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Gedrosia 71.42
2 Southwest_Asian 13.94
3 South_Asian 7.32
4 Atlantic_Med 3.23
5 Southeast_Asian 1.89
6 North_European 0.84
7 East_African 0.68
8 Caucasus 0.59
9 Sub_Saharan 0.09


Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Brahui (HGDP) 5.29
2 Balochi (HGDP) 9.81
3 Makrani (HGDP) 12.49
4 Sindhi (HGDP) 31.95
5 Pathan (HGDP) 34.84
6 Jatt (Dodecad) 36.85
7 Burusho (HGDP) 36.99
8 Tajiks (Yunusbayev) 43.59
9 Iranians (Behar) 49.26
10 Turkmens (Yunusbayev) 49.37
11 Brahmins_from_Uttar_Pradesh (Metspalu) 50.92
12 Cochin_Jews (Behar) 51.38
13 Brahmins_from_Tamil_Nadu (Metspalu) 51.4
14 Indian (Dodecad) 51.5
15 Kshatriya (Metspalu) 51.96
16 Iyer (Dodecad) 52.05
17 Iranian (Dodecad) 52.98
18 Bnei_Menashe_Jews (Behar) 53.15
19 Kurd (Dodecad) 53.28
20 Iyengar (Dodecad) 53.82

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 99% Brahui (HGDP) + 1% Saudis (Behar) @ 5.23
2 99.5% Brahui (HGDP) + 0.5% Yemen_Jews (Behar) @ 5.28
3 99.8% Brahui (HGDP) + 0.2% Bedouin (HGDP) @ 5.29
4 99.9% Brahui (HGDP) + 0.1% Ethiopians (Behar) @ 5.29
5 99.9% Brahui (HGDP) + 0.1% Ethiopian_Jews (Behar) @ 5.29
6 100% Brahui (HGDP) + 0% Somali (Dodecad) @ 5.29
7 100% Brahui (HGDP) + 0% Abhkasians (Yunusbayev) @ 5.29
8 100% Brahui (HGDP) + 0% Adygei (HGDP) @ 5.29
9 100% Brahui (HGDP) + 0% Algerian (Dodecad) @ 5.29
10 100% Brahui (HGDP) + 0% Altai (Rasmussen) @ 5.29
11 100% Brahui (HGDP) + 0% Andalucia (1000Genomes) @ 5.29
12 100% Brahui (HGDP) + 0% Aragon (1000Genomes) @ 5.29
13 100% Brahui (HGDP) + 0% Argyll (1000Genomes) @ 5.29
14 100% Brahui (HGDP) + 0% Armenian (Dodecad) @ 5.29
15 100% Brahui (HGDP) + 0% Armenians (Behar) @ 5.29
16 100% Brahui (HGDP) + 0% Armenians_15 (Yunusbayev) @ 5.29
17 100% Brahui (HGDP) + 0% Ashkenazi (Dodecad) @ 5.29
18 100% Brahui (HGDP) + 0% Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) @ 5.29
19 100% Brahui (HGDP) + 0% Assyrian (Dodecad) @ 5.29
20 100% Brahui (HGDP) + 0% ASUR (Chaubey) @ 5.29


Kit PW3514791 MAKRANI_HGDP00133
Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Gedrosia 69.71
2 Southwest_Asian 13.42
3 South_Asian 5.76
4 Atlantic_Med 3.26
5 Caucasus 3.02
6 Northwest_African 1.71
7 Sub_Saharan 1.51
8 Siberian 1.27
9 East_Asian 0.2
10 East_African 0.14


Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Brahui (HGDP) 7.07
2 Balochi (HGDP) 9.18
3 Makrani (HGDP) 10.37
4 Sindhi (HGDP) 32
5 Pathan (HGDP) 33.95
6 Burusho (HGDP) 36.2
7 Jatt (Dodecad) 36.76
8 Tajiks (Yunusbayev) 41.66
9 Iranians (Behar) 46.65
10 Turkmens (Yunusbayev) 46.95
11 Iranian (Dodecad) 50.38
12 Kurd (Dodecad) 50.61
13 Brahmins_from_Uttar_Pradesh (Metspalu) 51.02
14 Cochin_Jews (Behar) 51.29
15 Brahmins_from_Tamil_Nadu (Metspalu) 51.59
16 Indian (Dodecad) 51.73
17 Bnei_Menashe_Jews (Behar) 52.03
18 Kurds (Yunusbayev) 52.17
19 Kshatriya (Metspalu) 52.18
20 Iyer (Dodecad) 52.39

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 75.2% Brahui (HGDP) + 24.8% Makrani (HGDP) @ 6.55
2 96% Brahui (HGDP) + 4% Iranian_Jews (Behar) @ 6.57
3 96.2% Brahui (HGDP) + 3.8% Iraq_Jews (Behar) @ 6.6
4 95.3% Brahui (HGDP) + 4.7% Kurd (Dodecad) @ 6.61
5 95.5% Brahui (HGDP) + 4.5% Kurds (Yunusbayev) @ 6.63
6 96.4% Brahui (HGDP) + 3.6% Assyrian (Dodecad) @ 6.63
7 96.4% Brahui (HGDP) + 3.6% Georgia_Jews (Behar) @ 6.64
8 97% Brahui (HGDP) + 3% Yemen_Jews (Behar) @ 6.64
9 96.7% Brahui (HGDP) + 3.3% Bedouin (HGDP) @ 6.64
10 96.4% Brahui (HGDP) + 3.6% Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) @ 6.64
11 96.9% Brahui (HGDP) + 3.1% Samaritians (Behar) @ 6.66
12 96.5% Brahui (HGDP) + 3.5% Jordanians (Behar) @ 6.66
13 97.2% Brahui (HGDP) + 2.8% Saudis (Behar) @ 6.67
14 96.2% Brahui (HGDP) + 3.8% Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) @ 6.67
15 96.6% Brahui (HGDP) + 3.4% Yemenese (Behar) @ 6.67
16 96.7% Brahui (HGDP) + 3.3% Palestinian (HGDP) @ 6.68
17 96.7% Brahui (HGDP) + 3.3% Armenians_15 (Yunusbayev) @ 6.68
18 96.7% Brahui (HGDP) + 3.3% Armenian (Dodecad) @ 6.69
19 95.3% Brahui (HGDP) + 4.7% Iranians (Behar) @ 6.69
20 96.6% Brahui (HGDP) + 3.4% Lebanese (Behar) @ 6.69


Kit TT3920762 MAKRANI_HGDP00151
Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Gedrosia 65.79
2 Southwest_Asian 9.96
3 South_Asian 7.89
4 Atlantic_Med 4.44
5 Northwest_African 4.17
6 Sub_Saharan 3.42
7 Southeast_Asian 2.2
8 East_African 1.39
9 Caucasus 0.74


Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Brahui (HGDP) 7.69
2 Makrani (HGDP) 8.36
3 Balochi (HGDP) 8.59
4 Sindhi (HGDP) 28.53
5 Pathan (HGDP) 30.98
6 Burusho (HGDP) 32.92
7 Jatt (Dodecad) 33.08
8 Tajiks (Yunusbayev) 39.57
9 Turkmens (Yunusbayev) 45.39
10 Iranians (Behar) 45.89
11 Brahmins_from_Uttar_Pradesh (Metspalu) 47.12
12 Cochin_Jews (Behar) 47.51
13 Brahmins_from_Tamil_Nadu (Metspalu) 47.78
14 Indian (Dodecad) 47.96
15 Kshatriya (Metspalu) 48.3
16 Iyer (Dodecad) 48.54
17 Bnei_Menashe_Jews (Behar) 48.84
18 Iranian (Dodecad) 49.69
19 Kurd (Dodecad) 50.06
20 Iyengar (Dodecad) 50.45

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 94.9% Brahui (HGDP) + 5.1% LWK30 (Behar) @ 4.89
2 95% Brahui (HGDP) + 5% Bantu_N.E. (HGDP) @ 4.9
3 95.4% Brahui (HGDP) + 4.6% Bantu_S.E._Tswana (HGDP) @ 5.03
4 95.6% Brahui (HGDP) + 4.4% Bantu_S.W._Herero (HGDP) @ 5.09
5 95.3% Brahui (HGDP) + 4.7% ASW30 (HapMap3) @ 5.14
6 95.8% Brahui (HGDP) + 4.2% Mandenka (HGDP) @ 5.17
7 92.9% Brahui (HGDP) + 7.1% Moroccans (Behar) @ 5.25
8 96% Brahui (HGDP) + 4% Yoruba (HGDP) @ 5.26
9 96% Brahui (HGDP) + 4% YRI30 (HGDP) @ 5.26
10 92.8% Brahui (HGDP) + 7.2% Algerian (Dodecad) @ 5.49
11 93.2% Brahui (HGDP) + 6.8% Moroccan (Dodecad) @ 5.52
12 95.3% Brahui (HGDP) + 4.7% Mozabite (HGDP) @ 5.63
13 94.9% Brahui (HGDP) + 5.1% MKK30 (Dodecad) @ 5.78
14 95.3% Brahui (HGDP) + 4.7% Sandawe_He (Henn) @ 5.88
15 54.7% Brahui (HGDP) + 45.3% Makrani (HGDP) @ 5.97
16 94.1% Brahui (HGDP) + 5.9% Egyptans (Behar) @ 6.42
17 95.7% Brahui (HGDP) + 4.3% Ethiopians (Behar) @ 6.63
18 94.4% Brahui (HGDP) + 5.6% Yemenese (Behar) @ 6.65
19 95.8% Brahui (HGDP) + 4.2% Ethiopian_Jews (Behar) @ 6.66
20 96.2% Brahui (HGDP) + 3.8% Somali (Dodecad) @ 6.7

[harutsafaryan07]

Cappadocian Greeks

Gedrosia 11.94
Siberian 0.78
Northwest_African 0.63
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 21.11
North_European 3.51
South_Asian -
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 14.39
East_Asian 0.44
Caucasus 47.21
Sub_Saharan -

Distance to: Cappadocian_Greek
3.65654208 Greek_Cappadocia
6.64259738 Greek_Cypriot
8.80734920 Nusayri_Turkey
10.74177825 Armenian_West
12.15833048 Assyrian_West
12.19582716 Greek_Pontus
12.21523639 Armenian_East
12.93196427 Assyrian_South
13.14359159 Assyrian_North
13.19025398 Turk_East
13.35091383 Turk_East_Black_Sea
13.35426898 Greek_Crete
13.38620185 Druze
13.80910569 Azeri_Jew
13.90506742 Mountain_Jew_Chechnya
13.90930264 Sephardic_Jews
14.06219755 Palestinian_Christian
14.39632245 Turk_Central_East
14.67602807 Iraqi_Jew
14.78290229 Syria_SW_Christian
15.17059326 Lebanese
15.40167199 Iranian_Jew
15.73055625 Turk_Central_West
16.04661647 Georgia_Jews
16.07895830 Udi_Azerbaijan

2
Gedrosia 16.87
Siberian -
Northwest_African 3.76
Southeast_Asian 1.07
Atlantic_Med 19.88
North_European 5.44
South_Asian -
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 11.74
East_Asian 0.86
Caucasus 40.37
Sub_Saharan -

Distance to: Cappadocian_Greek
10.05768860 Greek_Cappadocia
10.46410531 Turk_Central_East
10.47026265 Nusayri_Turkey
11.08732159 Greek_Cypriot
11.14166056 Turk_Central_West
11.53357707 Turk_Southeast
11.57365975 Turk_East
11.90846338 Turk_Anatolia
12.26658469 Greek_Crete
12.56032245 Turk_West_BlackSea
12.65020158 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
12.77803584 Turk_South
12.96189415 Azerbaijani_Turkey
13.25996229 Armenian_West
13.50809757 Azerbaijani
13.56775958 Udi_Azerbaijan
13.72896209 Assyrian_West
13.80608561 Armenian_East
13.85933260 Turk_Southwest
13.96509219 Turkmen_Iraq
14.08349033 Assyrian_South
14.08803748 Azerbaijani_Iran
14.19876755 Zaza
14.22575481 Sephardic_Jews
14.27237191 Assyrian_North

[Leto]

This Gedrosia score is very high, 71% omg. Perhaps its around what Makrani gets Iran Neolithic on G25. The oracles are crazzy for this sample; it's nearly on the dead end of the Gedrosian shift.

Kit ES9626713 MAKRANI_HGDP00158
Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Gedrosia 71.42
2 Southwest_Asian 13.94
3 South_Asian 7.32
4 Atlantic_Med 3.23
5 Southeast_Asian 1.89
6 North_European 0.84
7 East_African 0.68
8 Caucasus 0.59
9 Sub_Saharan 0.09


Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Brahui (HGDP) 5.29
2 Balochi (HGDP) 9.81
3 Makrani (HGDP) 12.49
4 Sindhi (HGDP) 31.95
5 Pathan (HGDP) 34.84
6 Jatt (Dodecad) 36.85
7 Burusho (HGDP) 36.99
8 Tajiks (Yunusbayev) 43.59
9 Iranians (Behar) 49.26
10 Turkmens (Yunusbayev) 49.37
11 Brahmins_from_Uttar_Pradesh (Metspalu) 50.92
12 Cochin_Jews (Behar) 51.38
13 Brahmins_from_Tamil_Nadu (Metspalu) 51.4
14 Indian (Dodecad) 51.5
15 Kshatriya (Metspalu) 51.96
16 Iyer (Dodecad) 52.05
17 Iranian (Dodecad) 52.98
18 Bnei_Menashe_Jews (Behar) 53.15
19 Kurd (Dodecad) 53.28
20 Iyengar (Dodecad) 53.82

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 99% Brahui (HGDP) + 1% Saudis (Behar) @ 5.23
2 99.5% Brahui (HGDP) + 0.5% Yemen_Jews (Behar) @ 5.28
3 99.8% Brahui (HGDP) + 0.2% Bedouin (HGDP) @ 5.29
4 99.9% Brahui (HGDP) + 0.1% Ethiopians (Behar) @ 5.29
5 99.9% Brahui (HGDP) + 0.1% Ethiopian_Jews (Behar) @ 5.29
6 100% Brahui (HGDP) + 0% Somali (Dodecad) @ 5.29
7 100% Brahui (HGDP) + 0% Abhkasians (Yunusbayev) @ 5.29
8 100% Brahui (HGDP) + 0% Adygei (HGDP) @ 5.29
9 100% Brahui (HGDP) + 0% Algerian (Dodecad) @ 5.29
10 100% Brahui (HGDP) + 0% Altai (Rasmussen) @ 5.29
11 100% Brahui (HGDP) + 0% Andalucia (1000Genomes) @ 5.29
12 100% Brahui (HGDP) + 0% Aragon (1000Genomes) @ 5.29
13 100% Brahui (HGDP) + 0% Argyll (1000Genomes) @ 5.29
14 100% Brahui (HGDP) + 0% Armenian (Dodecad) @ 5.29
15 100% Brahui (HGDP) + 0% Armenians (Behar) @ 5.29
16 100% Brahui (HGDP) + 0% Armenians_15 (Yunusbayev) @ 5.29
17 100% Brahui (HGDP) + 0% Ashkenazi (Dodecad) @ 5.29
18 100% Brahui (HGDP) + 0% Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) @ 5.29
19 100% Brahui (HGDP) + 0% Assyrian (Dodecad) @ 5.29
20 100% Brahui (HGDP) + 0% ASUR (Chaubey) @ 5.29


Kit PW3514791 MAKRANI_HGDP00133
Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Gedrosia 69.71
2 Southwest_Asian 13.42
3 South_Asian 5.76
4 Atlantic_Med 3.26
5 Caucasus 3.02
6 Northwest_African 1.71
7 Sub_Saharan 1.51
8 Siberian 1.27
9 East_Asian 0.2
10 East_African 0.14


Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Brahui (HGDP) 7.07
2 Balochi (HGDP) 9.18
3 Makrani (HGDP) 10.37
4 Sindhi (HGDP) 32
5 Pathan (HGDP) 33.95
6 Burusho (HGDP) 36.2
7 Jatt (Dodecad) 36.76
8 Tajiks (Yunusbayev) 41.66
9 Iranians (Behar) 46.65
10 Turkmens (Yunusbayev) 46.95
11 Iranian (Dodecad) 50.38
12 Kurd (Dodecad) 50.61
13 Brahmins_from_Uttar_Pradesh (Metspalu) 51.02
14 Cochin_Jews (Behar) 51.29
15 Brahmins_from_Tamil_Nadu (Metspalu) 51.59
16 Indian (Dodecad) 51.73
17 Bnei_Menashe_Jews (Behar) 52.03
18 Kurds (Yunusbayev) 52.17
19 Kshatriya (Metspalu) 52.18
20 Iyer (Dodecad) 52.39

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 75.2% Brahui (HGDP) + 24.8% Makrani (HGDP) @ 6.55
2 96% Brahui (HGDP) + 4% Iranian_Jews (Behar) @ 6.57
3 96.2% Brahui (HGDP) + 3.8% Iraq_Jews (Behar) @ 6.6
4 95.3% Brahui (HGDP) + 4.7% Kurd (Dodecad) @ 6.61
5 95.5% Brahui (HGDP) + 4.5% Kurds (Yunusbayev) @ 6.63
6 96.4% Brahui (HGDP) + 3.6% Assyrian (Dodecad) @ 6.63
7 96.4% Brahui (HGDP) + 3.6% Georgia_Jews (Behar) @ 6.64
8 97% Brahui (HGDP) + 3% Yemen_Jews (Behar) @ 6.64
9 96.7% Brahui (HGDP) + 3.3% Bedouin (HGDP) @ 6.64
10 96.4% Brahui (HGDP) + 3.6% Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) @ 6.64
11 96.9% Brahui (HGDP) + 3.1% Samaritians (Behar) @ 6.66
12 96.5% Brahui (HGDP) + 3.5% Jordanians (Behar) @ 6.66
13 97.2% Brahui (HGDP) + 2.8% Saudis (Behar) @ 6.67
14 96.2% Brahui (HGDP) + 3.8% Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) @ 6.67
15 96.6% Brahui (HGDP) + 3.4% Yemenese (Behar) @ 6.67
16 96.7% Brahui (HGDP) + 3.3% Palestinian (HGDP) @ 6.68
17 96.7% Brahui (HGDP) + 3.3% Armenians_15 (Yunusbayev) @ 6.68
18 96.7% Brahui (HGDP) + 3.3% Armenian (Dodecad) @ 6.69
19 95.3% Brahui (HGDP) + 4.7% Iranians (Behar) @ 6.69
20 96.6% Brahui (HGDP) + 3.4% Lebanese (Behar) @ 6.69


Kit TT3920762 MAKRANI_HGDP00151
Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Gedrosia 65.79
2 Southwest_Asian 9.96
3 South_Asian 7.89
4 Atlantic_Med 4.44
5 Northwest_African 4.17
6 Sub_Saharan 3.42
7 Southeast_Asian 2.2
8 East_African 1.39
9 Caucasus 0.74


Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Brahui (HGDP) 7.69
2 Makrani (HGDP) 8.36
3 Balochi (HGDP) 8.59
4 Sindhi (HGDP) 28.53
5 Pathan (HGDP) 30.98
6 Burusho (HGDP) 32.92
7 Jatt (Dodecad) 33.08
8 Tajiks (Yunusbayev) 39.57
9 Turkmens (Yunusbayev) 45.39
10 Iranians (Behar) 45.89
11 Brahmins_from_Uttar_Pradesh (Metspalu) 47.12
12 Cochin_Jews (Behar) 47.51
13 Brahmins_from_Tamil_Nadu (Metspalu) 47.78
14 Indian (Dodecad) 47.96
15 Kshatriya (Metspalu) 48.3
16 Iyer (Dodecad) 48.54
17 Bnei_Menashe_Jews (Behar) 48.84
18 Iranian (Dodecad) 49.69
19 Kurd (Dodecad) 50.06
20 Iyengar (Dodecad) 50.45

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 94.9% Brahui (HGDP) + 5.1% LWK30 (Behar) @ 4.89
2 95% Brahui (HGDP) + 5% Bantu_N.E. (HGDP) @ 4.9
3 95.4% Brahui (HGDP) + 4.6% Bantu_S.E._Tswana (HGDP) @ 5.03
4 95.6% Brahui (HGDP) + 4.4% Bantu_S.W._Herero (HGDP) @ 5.09
5 95.3% Brahui (HGDP) + 4.7% ASW30 (HapMap3) @ 5.14
6 95.8% Brahui (HGDP) + 4.2% Mandenka (HGDP) @ 5.17
7 92.9% Brahui (HGDP) + 7.1% Moroccans (Behar) @ 5.25
8 96% Brahui (HGDP) + 4% Yoruba (HGDP) @ 5.26
9 96% Brahui (HGDP) + 4% YRI30 (HGDP) @ 5.26
10 92.8% Brahui (HGDP) + 7.2% Algerian (Dodecad) @ 5.49
11 93.2% Brahui (HGDP) + 6.8% Moroccan (Dodecad) @ 5.52
12 95.3% Brahui (HGDP) + 4.7% Mozabite (HGDP) @ 5.63
13 94.9% Brahui (HGDP) + 5.1% MKK30 (Dodecad) @ 5.78
14 95.3% Brahui (HGDP) + 4.7% Sandawe_He (Henn) @ 5.88
15 54.7% Brahui (HGDP) + 45.3% Makrani (HGDP) @ 5.97
16 94.1% Brahui (HGDP) + 5.9% Egyptans (Behar) @ 6.42
17 95.7% Brahui (HGDP) + 4.3% Ethiopians (Behar) @ 6.63
18 94.4% Brahui (HGDP) + 5.6% Yemenese (Behar) @ 6.65
19 95.8% Brahui (HGDP) + 4.2% Ethiopian_Jews (Behar) @ 6.66
20 96.2% Brahui (HGDP) + 3.8% Somali (Dodecad) @ 6.7

We are deleting Balochi, Makrani and Brahui from Vahaduo, those are inaccurate references. What you posted is just part of the data which was used to create the Gedrosia component.
If anyone has genuine Baloch kits, make sure to share them.

[Kaazi]

We are deleting Balochi, Makrani and Brahui from Vahaduo, those are inaccurate references. What you posted is just part of the data which was used to create the Gedrosia component.
If anyone has genuine Baloch kits, make sure to share them.

What do you mean by inaccurate? I don't know if the score is inflated or approximate. They will certainly score 60% or more Iran Neolithic imo.

[Leto]

What do you mean by inaccurate? I don't know if the score is inflated or approximate. They will certainly score 60% or more Iran Neolithic imo.
Gedmatch calculators are based on modern samples. When you run a kit that was used for creating a calculator reference the results will be massively skewed.

[Fedora]

Former TA member Prinses, from the East Black Sea. She is ca. 1.5% Mongoloid on multiple calculators

Gedrosia 19.32 Pct
Siberian 0.99 Pct
Northwest_African -
Southeast_Asian 0.52 Pct
Atlantic_Med 11.16 Pct
North_European 4.65 Pct
South_Asian 0.48 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 9.95 Pct
East_Asian -
Caucasus 52.92 Pct
Sub_Saharan -

Distance to: Prinses
4.81226558 Turk_East_Black_Sea
5.00882222 Hemshin
5.06247963 Turk_Ahiska
5.42868308 Laz
5.64457261 Armenian_East
5.87659766 Greek_Pontus
6.84713079 Georgian_Adjara
7.59310213 Armenian_West
7.67775358 Georgian_Turkey
8.36743688 Turk_East

Target: Prinses
Distance: 2.6695% / 2.66950293 | ADC: 0.5x
32.2 Georgian_Adjara
30.2 Turk_East_Black_Sea
21.2 Armenian_East
16.4 Udi_Azerbaijan

Target: Prinses
Distance: 1.4519% / 1.45185095 | ADC: 0.25x
58.4 Georgian_Adjara
14.0 Armenian_West
14.0 Udi_Azerbaijan
10.6 Turk_East
3.0 Sardinian


Must be an Ahiska Turk

Gedrosia 18.33 Pct
Siberian -
Northwest_African 0.73 Pct
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 10.91 Pct
North_European 7.33 Pct
South_Asian -
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 12.43 Pct
East_Asian 0.20 Pct
Caucasus 50.08 Pct
Sub_Saharan -

Distance to: Ispirli
2.00883051 Armenian_East
5.00497752 Turk_East
5.44517217 Udi_Azerbaijan
5.48365754 Turk_Ahiska
5.71167226 Armenian_West
6.00861881 Turk_East_Black_Sea
6.88883154 Greek_Pontus
7.51990027 Hemshin
8.29523960 Laz
8.47999410 Mountain_Jew_Chechnya

Target: Ispirli
Distance: 1.1563% / 1.15625922 | ADC: 0.5x
76.8 Armenian_East
13.6 Turk_Ahiska
9.6 Udi_Azerbaijan

Target: Ispirli
Distance: 0.8087% / 0.80874757 | ADC: 0.25x
68.8 Armenian_East
21.6 Turk_Ahiska
8.8 Udi_Azerbaijan
0.8 Spanish_Basque

I've found a few more Northeast Turkish kits, that region is pretty interesting IMO.

The second one is from https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/42/Erzurum_in_Turkey.svg

[Leto]

The second one is from
Do you know the guy? Or does the nickname tell you his origin? He is pretty much zero Turkic anyway.

[Leto]

From another forum - Lur/Persian

26.46% Gedrosia
0.04% Siberian
3.42% Northwest_African
0.01% Southeast_Asian
5.33% Atlantic_Med
6.64% North_European
3.75% South_Asian
0.38% East_African
13.29% Southwest_Asian
0.38% East_Asian
40.31% Caucasus
0.00% Sub_Saharan

Using 1 populations approximation
1 100% Talysh_Azerbaijan @ 4.013
2 100% Talysh_Azerbaijan @ 4.013
3 100% Lur_Iran @ 4.576
4 100% Kurd @ 4.773
5 100% Iranian @ 4.812
6 100% Kurd_Sorani @ 4.959
7 100% Kurd_Kurmanji @ 5.045
8 100% Kurds @ 5.453
9 100% Zaza @ 5.625
10 100% Iranians @ 6.924

Using 2 populations approximation
1 50% Talysh_Azerbaijan + 50% Lur_Iran @ 3.354
2 50% Talysh_Azerbaijan + 50% Lur_Iran @ 3.354
3 50% Turkmen_Iraq + 50% Iran_Mazandaran @ 3.420
4 50% Talysh_Azerbaijan + 50% Kurd_Sorani @ 3.525
5 50% Talysh_Azerbaijan + 50% Kurd_Sorani @ 3.525
6 50% Kurd_Kurmanji + 50% Iran_Mazandaran @ 3.547
7 50% Iranian + 50% Kurd_Sorani @ 3.569
8 50% Zaza + 50% Iran_Mazandaran @ 3.608
9 50% Kurd_Sorani + 50% Iran_Mazandaran @ 3.676
10 50% Talysh_Azerbaijan + 50% Kurd @ 3.697

[Leto]

Karachay-Balkar

Gedrosia 18.02 Pct
Siberian 5.30 Pct
Northwest_African -
Southeast_Asian 0.93 Pct
Atlantic_Med 6.95 Pct
North_European 14.54 Pct
South_Asian 0.50 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 7.67 Pct
East_Asian 4.06 Pct
Caucasus 42.03 Pct
Sub_Saharan -

Target: Eldar
Distance: 1.1707% / 1.17067622 | ADC: 0.25x
42.8 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
20.8 Kumyks
20.0 Balkar
16.0 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
0.2 Ket
0.2 Saudis

Target: Eldar
Distance: 1.7535% / 1.75353513 | ADC: 0.5x
31.0 Balkar
28.0 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
17.8 Karachay
13.8 Azerbaijani_Turkey
9.4 Azerbaijani_Dagestan

[Dr_Maul]

From another forum - Lur/Persian

26.46% Gedrosia
0.04% Siberian
3.42% Northwest_African
0.01% Southeast_Asian
5.33% Atlantic_Med
6.64% North_European
3.75% South_Asian
0.38% East_African
13.29% Southwest_Asian
0.38% East_Asian
40.31% Caucasus
0.00% Sub_Saharan

Using 1 populations approximation
1 100% Talysh_Azerbaijan @ 4.013
2 100% Talysh_Azerbaijan @ 4.013
3 100% Lur_Iran @ 4.576
4 100% Kurd @ 4.773
5 100% Iranian @ 4.812
6 100% Kurd_Sorani @ 4.959
7 100% Kurd_Kurmanji @ 5.045
8 100% Kurds @ 5.453
9 100% Zaza @ 5.625
10 100% Iranians @ 6.924

Using 2 populations approximation
1 50% Talysh_Azerbaijan + 50% Lur_Iran @ 3.354
2 50% Talysh_Azerbaijan + 50% Lur_Iran @ 3.354
3 50% Turkmen_Iraq + 50% Iran_Mazandaran @ 3.420
4 50% Talysh_Azerbaijan + 50% Kurd_Sorani @ 3.525
5 50% Talysh_Azerbaijan + 50% Kurd_Sorani @ 3.525
6 50% Kurd_Kurmanji + 50% Iran_Mazandaran @ 3.547
7 50% Iranian + 50% Kurd_Sorani @ 3.569
8 50% Zaza + 50% Iran_Mazandaran @ 3.608
9 50% Kurd_Sorani + 50% Iran_Mazandaran @ 3.676
10 50% Talysh_Azerbaijan + 50% Kurd @ 3.697

Tribe?

[Leto]

Tribe?
No idea, just copied the results. He looks almost like a perfect Iranian to me. Barely any foreign admixture.

[Dr_Maul]

No idea, just copied the results. He looks almost like a perfect Iranian to me. Barely any foreign admixture.

>3.42% North African

But yes he is pretty unmixed, which is why I asked his tribe because most of them have a levantine shift

[Leto]

Well, Greeks, Italians score the same or higher amount of NW African and they are Europeans. It's not SSA, probably misread Middle Eastern.

[Leto]

@Kyp, the Azeris I sent you

I.I.,24.82,3.95,3.29,0,8.30,8.22,4.44,0.05,11.65,4 .85,30.43,0

Distance to: I.I.
6.58571181 Iran_Khorasan
8.61229354 Iranian_Fars
8.91815003 Turkmen_Iran
9.15753788 Turkmens
9.79862745 Azerbaijani_Iran
9.84859381 Azerbaijani
11.30005752 Kurd_Kurmanji
11.33174303 Kurd_Sorani
11.42234214 Turk_Southeast
11.52227408 Azerbaijani_Turkey

Target: I.I.
Distance: 2.0052% / 2.00524614 | ADC: 0.25x
41.4 Iranian_Fars
40.0 Turkmens
10.2 Yoruk
4.0 Morocco_Jews
3.4 Moroccan
0.6 Spanish_Asturias
0.4 Saudis


RI,22.65,2.61,0,0,9.18,7.88,3.40,0,10.53,4.04,39.7 1,0

Distance to: RI
2.90396281 Azerbaijani_Turkey
2.97144746 Azerbaijani_Iran
3.30514750 Azerbaijani
5.51400943 Kurd_Kurmanji
5.78987910 Zaza
5.93248683 Talysh_Azerbaijan
6.31199651 Turk_Southeast
7.67822245 Turkmen_Iraq
7.74990323 Kurd_Sorani
8.23685620 Turk_Central_East

Target: RI
Distance: 1.6376% / 1.63761249 | ADC: 0.25x
80.6 Azerbaijani_Turkey
12.8 Iranian
4.6 Iran_Khorasan
1.4 Burusho
0.4 Georgian_Adjara
0.2 Korean

Target: RI
Distance: 1.8644% / 1.86443030 | ADC: 0.5x
83.0 Azerbaijani_Turkey
9.0 Iranian
8.0 Iran_Khorasan


Ilqar,22.90,0.91,1.68,0.73,8.77,8.12,4.27,0.43,12. 39,4.94,34.86,0

Distance to: Ilqar
5.18646315 Azerbaijani
5.30677868 Azerbaijani_Iran
6.98217731 Azerbaijani_Turkey
7.21652964 Kurd_Kurmanji
7.24775138 Turk_Southeast
7.38030487 Turkmen_Iraq
7.43246931 Iranian_Fars
7.44252645 Kurd_Sorani
7.82019181 Iran_Khorasan
8.86050224 Zaza

Target: Ilqar
Distance: 1.5359% / 1.53588455 | ADC: 0.25x
52.4 Azerbaijani
33.6 Iranian_Fars
8.6 Iran_Khorasan
1.8 Korean
1.6 Spanish_Asturias
1.0 Moroccan
1.0 Turkmen_Iraq

Target: Ilqar
Distance: 2.6989% / 2.69885627 | ADC: 0.5x
61.8 Azerbaijani
18.6 Iran_Khorasan
18.4 Iranian_Fars
0.8 Moroccan
0.4 Korean


Ulvi,21.77,1.82,2.32,0.22,9.33,8.35,3.74,0,11.73,5 .42,35.30,0

Distance to: Ulvi
4.51227215 Azerbaijani
5.04669199 Azerbaijani_Iran
6.11686194 Azerbaijani_Turkey
6.22873181 Turk_Southeast
7.69891551 Kurd_Kurmanji
7.98648233 Turkmen_Iraq
8.46645735 Turk_South
8.50564518 Kurd_Sorani
8.84429760 Iran_Khorasan
9.13580867 Iranian_Fars

Target: Ulvi
Distance: 1.6297% / 1.62974335 | ADC: 0.25x
71.6 Azerbaijani
16.8 Iran_Khorasan
6.8 Iranian_Fars
3.0 Moroccan
1.6 Korean
0.2 Sardinian

Target: Ulvi
Distance: 2.6011% / 2.60113758 | ADC: 0.5x
78.4 Azerbaijani
19.2 Iran_Khorasan
1.8 Moroccan
0.4 Korean
0.2 Yoruk

[Bender1999]

From another forum - Lur/Persian

[[/COLOR]

Lur Persian mix or Persian lur?

[Leto]

Lur Persian mix or Persian lur?
I think the former. The Lurs are basically some type of Persian though.

[Bender1999]

I think the former. The Lurs are basically some type of Persian though.

Yes sure. I don’t think this result is atypical for them, maybe a bit more steppe than average but nothing atypical. Pure Westiranic.

[Kyp]

@Kyp, the Azeris I sent you

I.I.,24.82,3.95,3.29,0,8.30,8.22,4.44,0.05,11.65,4 .85,30.43,0

Distance to: I.I.
6.58571181 Iran_Khorasan
8.61229354 Iranian_Fars
8.91815003 Turkmen_Iran
9.15753788 Turkmens
9.79862745 Azerbaijani_Iran
9.84859381 Azerbaijani
11.30005752 Kurd_Kurmanji
11.33174303 Kurd_Sorani
11.42234214 Turk_Southeast
11.52227408 Azerbaijani_Turkey

Target: I.I.
Distance: 2.0052% / 2.00524614 | ADC: 0.25x
41.4 Iranian_Fars
40.0 Turkmens
10.2 Yoruk
4.0 Morocco_Jews
3.4 Moroccan
0.6 Spanish_Asturias
0.4 Saudis


RI,22.65,2.61,0,0,9.18,7.88,3.40,0,10.53,4.04,39.7 1,0

Distance to: RI
2.90396281 Azerbaijani_Turkey
2.97144746 Azerbaijani_Iran
3.30514750 Azerbaijani
5.51400943 Kurd_Kurmanji
5.78987910 Zaza
5.93248683 Talysh_Azerbaijan
6.31199651 Turk_Southeast
7.67822245 Turkmen_Iraq
7.74990323 Kurd_Sorani
8.23685620 Turk_Central_East

Target: RI
Distance: 1.6376% / 1.63761249 | ADC: 0.25x
80.6 Azerbaijani_Turkey
12.8 Iranian
4.6 Iran_Khorasan
1.4 Burusho
0.4 Georgian_Adjara
0.2 Korean

Target: RI
Distance: 1.8644% / 1.86443030 | ADC: 0.5x
83.0 Azerbaijani_Turkey
9.0 Iranian
8.0 Iran_Khorasan


Ilqar,22.90,0.91,1.68,0.73,8.77,8.12,4.27,0.43,12. 39,4.94,34.86,0

Distance to: Ilqar
5.18646315 Azerbaijani
5.30677868 Azerbaijani_Iran
6.98217731 Azerbaijani_Turkey
7.21652964 Kurd_Kurmanji
7.24775138 Turk_Southeast
7.38030487 Turkmen_Iraq
7.43246931 Iranian_Fars
7.44252645 Kurd_Sorani
7.82019181 Iran_Khorasan
8.86050224 Zaza

Target: Ilqar
Distance: 1.5359% / 1.53588455 | ADC: 0.25x
52.4 Azerbaijani
33.6 Iranian_Fars
8.6 Iran_Khorasan
1.8 Korean
1.6 Spanish_Asturias
1.0 Moroccan
1.0 Turkmen_Iraq

Target: Ilqar
Distance: 2.6989% / 2.69885627 | ADC: 0.5x
61.8 Azerbaijani
18.6 Iran_Khorasan
18.4 Iranian_Fars
0.8 Moroccan
0.4 Korean


Ulvi,21.77,1.82,2.32,0.22,9.33,8.35,3.74,0,11.73,5 .42,35.30,0

Distance to: Ulvi
4.51227215 Azerbaijani
5.04669199 Azerbaijani_Iran
6.11686194 Azerbaijani_Turkey
6.22873181 Turk_Southeast
7.69891551 Kurd_Kurmanji
7.98648233 Turkmen_Iraq
8.46645735 Turk_South
8.50564518 Kurd_Sorani
8.84429760 Iran_Khorasan
9.13580867 Iranian_Fars

Target: Ulvi
Distance: 1.6297% / 1.62974335 | ADC: 0.25x
71.6 Azerbaijani
16.8 Iran_Khorasan
6.8 Iranian_Fars
3.0 Moroccan
1.6 Korean
0.2 Sardinian

Target: Ulvi
Distance: 2.6011% / 2.60113758 | ADC: 0.5x
78.4 Azerbaijani
19.2 Iran_Khorasan
1.8 Moroccan
0.4 Korean
0.2 Yoruk

They have interesting results. I wonder from which region they are from.

Edit: I know where they are from

[Kyp]

Some Iranian:

Gedrosian: 23.50
Siberian: 2.11
Northwest_African: 1.21
Southeast_Asian: 0.28
Atlantic_Med: 6.17
North_European: 10.58
South_Asian 5.40
East_African 0.00
Southwest_Asian: 9.74
East_Asian: 3.34
Caucasian: 37.67
SSA: 0.00

Distance to: Iran
5.33972846 Azerbaijani_Iran
5.72543448 Azerbaijani
6.52446166 Azerbaijani_Turkey
7.09799972 Talysh_Azerbaijan
7.15874291 Iran_Khorasan
7.55868375 Kurd_Kurmanji
8.17915644 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
8.38712108 Iranian_Fars
8.45645907 Zaza
8.65882209 Kurd_Sorani
8.73304071 Iranian
9.13880189 Turk_Southeast
9.88870568 Lur_Iran
9.96467260 Turkmen_Iraq
10.23145151 Kurd_KAZ
10.83198043 Iran_Mazandaran
11.10184219 Turk_South
11.31036693 Udi_Azerbaijan
11.33206954 Turk_Central_East
12.19202198 Turkmen_Iran
12.21492939 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
12.32906322 Turk_Anatolia
12.33335721 Turk_East
12.41332752 Turkmens
12.72665313 Turk_Central_West

Target: Iran
Distance: 1.3049% / 1.30486611 | ADC: 0.25x
41.0 Azerbaijani_Iran
28.2 Iran_Khorasan
22.0 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
4.8 Talysh_Azerbaijan
2.8 Kumyks
1.2 Pulliyar

[Kyp]

Iranian Name:

Gedrosian: 19.98
Siberian: 2.58
Northwest_African: 1.24
Southeast_Asian: 0.00
Atlantic_Med: 7.23
North_European: 7.23
South_Asian 2.67
East_African 0.48
Southwest_Asian: 11.99
East_Asian: 4.50
Caucasian: 41.11
SSA: 0.99

Distance to: IranAz
3.22828128 Azerbaijani_Turkey
3.78577601 Azerbaijani_Iran
4.19904751 Azerbaijani
5.71434161 Turk_Southeast
6.29119226 Zaza
6.53453135 Kurd_Kurmanji
6.81835757 Talysh_Azerbaijan
7.17634308 Turk_East
7.20975034 Turkmen_Iraq
7.31807352 Turk_Central_East
7.75856946 Udi_Azerbaijan
8.03221016 Kurd_Sorani
8.32173660 Turk_South
8.43029655 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
9.51749967 Kurd_KAZ
9.71123061 Turk_Anatolia
10.03569131 Turk_Central_West
10.06241025 Lur_Iran
10.14415102 Iranian
10.94491206 Iraqi_Baghdad
11.44339984 Iranian_Fars
11.63743528 Armenian_East
11.66156936 Mountain_Jew_Chechnya
11.89572612 Azeri_Jew
11.92057046 Azerbaijani_Dagestan

Target: IranAz
Distance: 1.6859% / 1.68590879 | ADC: 0.25x
42.6 Azerbaijani_Turkey
37.2 Azerbaijani_Iran
9.8 Georgia_Jews
4.4 Talysh_Azerbaijan
3.4 Georgian_Mingrelian
1.0 Korean

[Chris596]

Iranian Name:

Target: IranAz
Distance: 1.6859% / 1.68590879 | ADC: 0.25x
42.6 Azerbaijani_Turkey
37.2 Azerbaijani_Iran
9.8 Georgia_Jews
4.4 Talysh_Azerbaijan
3.4 Georgian_Mingrelian
1.0 Korean

Wow, I don't want to spam this thread with my results, but this is what I get on Vahaduo K12b, in comparison with this Iranian:

Target: Chris
Distance: 2.6583% / 2.65829839 | ADC: 0.25x
95.6 Serb
2.4 Georgian_Mingrelian
1.0 Korean
0.6 Nogai
0.4 Croat

The 95% Serbian is basically the 95% Balkan which Myheritage gave me, the rest was not too accurate. 1% Korean or something would have been accurate because I saw other Szekely Hungarians who got 2-2.5% Korean/Japanese and I'm basically half Szekely Hungarian and they gave me nothing. Just an interesting observation I thought I would share here. I hope it will get fixed in the newest update, but I have little hope after what FTDNA has done...

[Bender1999]

Azerbaijani from Ağstafa. It seems this is a high Turkic influenced region.

Gedrosian: 20.66 Pct
Siberian: 4.09 Pct
Northwest_African: -
Southeast_Asian: 1.64 Pct
Atlantic_Med: 10.51 Pct
North_European: 8.46 Pct
South_Asian 1.70 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian: 10.29 Pct
East_Asian: 5.23 Pct
Caucasian: 37.44 Pct
SSA: -

[Kyp]

Wow, I don't want to spam this thread with my results, but this is what I get on Vahaduo K12b, in comparison with this Iranian:

Target: Chris
Distance: 2.6583% / 2.65829839 | ADC: 0.25x
95.6 Serb
2.4 Georgian_Mingrelian
1.0 Korean
0.6 Nogai
0.4 Croat

The 95% Serbian is basically the 95% Balkan which Myheritage gave me, the rest was not too accurate. 1% Korean or something would have been accurate because I saw other Szekely Hungarians who got 2-2.5% Korean/Japanese and I'm basically half Szekely Hungarian and they gave me nothing. Just an interesting observation I thought I would share here. I hope it will get fixed in the newest update, but I have little hope after what FTDNA has done...

Yep, but note a lot of Mongoloid already is hidden in the Azerbaijani components of the Iranian result (who is probably Azeri/Persian).

[Halgurd]

I think the former. The Lurs are basically some type of Persian though.

The Lurî were originally a subsection of the Kurds and until 100 years ago were still academically considered Kurds. They are still extremely similar to Feylî Kurds (in dialect and geography).

Due to lack of national awareness amongst Kurds, they eventually lost that identity but there are still a few who are aware of their Kurdish identity. I know someone who joined PAK (Kurdistan Freedom Party) and he mentioned to me that there were several Lurî serving in the army.

[Leto]

10% North European in the Iranian is interesting. He must be half Azeri or something.

[Leto]

The Lurî were originally a subsection of the Kurds and until 100 years ago were still academically considered Kurds. They are still extremely similar to Feylî Kurds (in dialect and geography).

Due to lack of national awareness amongst Kurds, they eventually lost that identity but there are still a few who are aware of their Kurdish identity. I know someone who joined PAK (Kurdistan Freedom Party) and he mentioned to me that there were several Lurî serving in the army.
But they are Shia, aren't they? Living in Iran and being Shia really makes them close to the Persians.

[Halgurd]

But they are Shia, aren't they? Living in Iran and being Shia really makes them close to the Persians.

Yes, Lurî and Feylî Kurds are both Shia but this conversion happened recently. Formerly, they were Yarsan. Yarsanism in itself shares many similarities with Shia Islam (although not in its pure, original form but rather in its modern, corrupted form), hence why it became more attractive to them.

Genetically speaking, Lurîs are interesting as they have high levels of E-M78. The highest in Iran, apparently. A significant portion of this E-M78 would be V13.

[Kyp]

Kurd (Zaza?) from Turkey:
a lot of matches from Dersim region.

Gedrosia 22.52 Pct
Siberian 0.28 Pct
Northwest_African 1.03 Pct
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 11.58 Pct
North_European 12.18 Pct
South_Asian 3.37 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 11.64 Pct
East_Asian -
Caucasus 37.40 Pct
Sub_Saharan -

Daughter or mother:
Gedrosia 20.95 Pct
Siberian 1.14 Pct
Northwest_African 2.03 Pct
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 9.49 Pct
North_European 10.78 Pct
South_Asian 2.63 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 13.95 Pct
East_Asian -
Caucasus 39.04 Pct
Sub_Saharan -

[Bender1999]

Kurd (Zaza?) from Turkey:
a lot of matches from Dersim region.

Gedrosia 22.52 Pct
Siberian 0.28 Pct
Northwest_African 1.03 Pct
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 11.58 Pct
North_European 12.18 Pct
South_Asian 3.37 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 11.64 Pct
East_Asian -
Caucasus 37.40 Pct
Sub_Saharan -

That is very interesting. I saw some results from there but never saw more than 8% NE.

[Leto]

Kurd (Zaza?) from Turkey:
a lot of matches from Dersim region.

Gedrosia 22.52 Pct
Siberian 0.28 Pct
Northwest_African 1.03 Pct
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 11.58 Pct
North_European 12.18 Pct
South_Asian 3.37 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 11.64 Pct
East_Asian -
Caucasus 37.40 Pct
Sub_Saharan -
Very high European and it's not from Turks (their Mong is basically zero). Keeping Aryan heritage alive :cool:

Kyp, do you have an updated IR/AZ spreadsheet?

[Kyp]

That is very interesting. I saw some results from there but never saw more than 8% NE.


Very high European and it's not from Turks (their Mong is basically zero). Keeping Aryan heritage alive :cool:

Kyp, do you have an updated IR/AZ spreadsheet?

A huge blow for us Turanists :D

No it's not updated yet

[Dr_Maul]

But they are Shia, aren't they? Living in Iran and being Shia really makes them close to the Persians.

Lurs specifically Bakhtiyars especially those living in Fars and Isfahan have nothing to do with Kurds really, they are just Nomadic Persians. Lurs of Lorestan, Ahvaz, and the western parts changed from Kurdish identity as it became more affiliated with the Ottoman state.

[Kyp]

Lurs specifically Bakhtiyars especially those living in Fars and Isfahan have nothing to do with Kurds really, they are just Nomadic Persians. Lurs of Lorestan, Ahvaz, and the western parts changed from Kurdish identity as it became more affiliated with the Ottoman state.

Aren't Kurds just nomadic Persians? And Persians city-dwelling Kurds at the end of the day?

[Leto]

Yeah, interestingly their Caucasus and SW Asian aren't low, maybe Gedrosia is on the lower end of the spectrum but overall they seem just naturally more "Steppic" for whatever reason.

That is very interesting. I saw some results from there but never saw more than 8% NE.
I saw 9% North European in a Kurd but never above 10%.

[Dr_Maul]

Aren't Kurds just nomadic Persians? And Persians city-dwelling Kurds at the end of the day?

If you consider the fact that Ethnolinguistic groups in Iran are castes and not races, yes.

[Kyp]

Iranian Name:

Gedrosian: 19.98
Siberian: 2.58
Northwest_African: 1.24
Southeast_Asian: 0.00
Atlantic_Med: 7.23
North_European: 7.23
South_Asian 2.67
East_African 0.48
Southwest_Asian: 11.99
East_Asian: 4.50
Caucasian: 41.11
SSA: 0.99

Distance to: IranAz
3.22828128 Azerbaijani_Turkey
3.78577601 Azerbaijani_Iran
4.19904751 Azerbaijani
5.71434161 Turk_Southeast
6.29119226 Zaza
6.53453135 Kurd_Kurmanji
6.81835757 Talysh_Azerbaijan
7.17634308 Turk_East
7.20975034 Turkmen_Iraq
7.31807352 Turk_Central_East
7.75856946 Udi_Azerbaijan
8.03221016 Kurd_Sorani
8.32173660 Turk_South
8.43029655 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
9.51749967 Kurd_KAZ
9.71123061 Turk_Anatolia
10.03569131 Turk_Central_West
10.06241025 Lur_Iran
10.14415102 Iranian
10.94491206 Iraqi_Baghdad
11.44339984 Iranian_Fars
11.63743528 Armenian_East
11.66156936 Mountain_Jew_Chechnya
11.89572612 Azeri_Jew
11.92057046 Azerbaijani_Dagestan

Target: IranAz
Distance: 1.6859% / 1.68590879 | ADC: 0.25x
42.6 Azerbaijani_Turkey
37.2 Azerbaijani_Iran
9.8 Georgia_Jews
4.4 Talysh_Azerbaijan
3.4 Georgian_Mingrelian
1.0 Korean

Iranian Azerbaijani confirmed!

[Halgurd]

Aren't Kurds just nomadic Persians? And Persians city-dwelling Kurds at the end of the day?

lol please delete this

[Kyp]

lol please delete this

It was ironic. Still there is some truth to it.

[Leto]

Don't know what this guy is, some kind of Arab I guess but he does have substantial European ancestry

J2b1
K1a1

Gedrosia 7.97 Pct
Siberian -
Northwest_African 3.87 Pct
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 16.42 Pct
North_European 7.79 Pct
South_Asian 2.17 Pct
East_African 3.44 Pct
Southwest_Asian 18.61 Pct
East_Asian 0.29 Pct
Caucasus 39.12 Pct
Sub_Saharan 0.33 Pct

Target: Karim
Distance: 1.7799% / 1.77985935 | ADC: 0.25x
48.0 Lebanese
45.4 Greek_Crete
2.6 Greek_Cypriot
1.6 Pulliyar
1.4 Somali
0.6 Ethiopian_Jews
0.4 Egyptans

Eurogenes K13:
75.1% Lebanese_Muslim + 24.9% Ashkenazi @ 2.33

[Leto]

Nogai from Karachay-Cherkessia

Gedrosia 13.69 Pct
Siberian 10.60 Pct
Northwest_African 0.60 Pct
Southeast_Asian 0.19 Pct
Atlantic_Med 5.93 Pct
North_European 19.41 Pct
South_Asian 1.59 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 4.81 Pct
East_Asian 14.62 Pct
Caucasus 28.56 Pct
Sub_Saharan -

Distance to: Nogai_KChR
9.11362716 Nogai
13.34121434 Turkmen_Uzbekistan
13.62312005 Yoruk
15.03881977 Uzbek
15.61149256 Crimean_Tatar_Steppe
15.70551495 Turk_Northwest
16.12814310 Turkmen_Iran
16.86900708 Turk_Southwest
17.77271223 Crimean_Tatar_Mountain
18.41580300 Qumuq

Target: Nogai_KChR
Distance: 3.1984% / 3.19842239 | ADC: 0.5x
58.6 Nogai
28.2 Turkmen_Uzbekistan
11.0 Crimean_Tatar_Steppe
2.2 Yoruk

Target: Nogai_KChR
Distance: 1.5876% / 1.58759687 | ADC: 0.25x
54.2 Nogai
14.0 Uzbeks
11.8 Yoruk
10.4 Crimean_Tatar_Steppe
6.0 Uzbek
2.4 Saudis
1.0 Turkmen_Uzbekistan
0.2 Korean

No good fit for him. Normally I would not post a fit with a distance of 3.0+ at all.


Armenian with very high North European (mixed with smth)

Gedrosia 15.88 Pct
Siberian 0.65 Pct
Northwest_African -
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 9.15 Pct
North_European 16.32 Pct
South_Asian -
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 12.32 Pct
East_Asian -
Caucasus 45.69 Pct
Sub_Saharan -

Target: Sarkisyan
Distance: 2.4123% / 2.41228399 | ADC: 0.25x
57.2 Armenian_East
21.2 Circassian
10.0 Chechen
8.0 Lithuanian
3.6 Yemen_Jews

[Leto]

This account has some type of Nogais, I don't know what they are exactly but very Turkic overall (high Mongoloid, high North European). Just in case anyone's interested. Some are like 50% EE, others are in the 20s.

Email: ASKAR.SHALAQAZAQ@YAHOO.COM

Kit Number: AJ7881314
Name: Alissa K

Kit Number: MW8874359
Name: Alissa K

Kit Number: QY5293551
Name: *Ali Naiman

Kit Number: JJ4562436
Name: Amir Ken

Kit Number: RD8921284
Name: Artur Naiman

Kit Number: ZW1641514
Name: Azamat Sabanshy

Kit Number: AF5935813
Name: Zaurbek Magomed

Kit Number: WR1798365
Name: Muslim Isqali

Kit Number: GL8494752
Name: Marat Cherkessov

Kit Number: WZ7974903
Name: Zara Suleymen

Kit Number: ET3690677
Name: Assem Kelesbek

Kit Number: JV3789143
Name: Kulyash Abdullina

Kit Number: LB2599036
Name: Giniyat Tash

[Leto]

Brand new Chechen results

Gedrosia 23.41 Pct
Siberian 1.91 Pct
Northwest_African -
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 3.15 Pct
North_European 20.96 Pct
South_Asian -
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 2.94 Pct
East_Asian 1.96 Pct
Caucasus 45.66 Pct
Sub_Saharan -

Distance to: Salman
3.73101863 Сhechen
4.43514374 Ingush
4.92271267 Kumyks
6.79282710 Circassian
6.93783107 Balkar
7.27982143 Ossetian
8.33881886 Karachay
8.72415612 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
9.74627621 Lezgin
10.26975657 Qumuq

Target: Salman
Distance: 1.7722% / 1.77217291 | ADC: 0.25x
35.4 Сhechen
24.6 Kumyks
23.6 Lak
16.4 Georgian_Svan

Target: Salman
Distance: 0.8191% / 0.81913281
52.6 Lak
43.2 Georgian_Svan
2.0 Lithuanian
1.2 Korean
1.0 Kumyks

[Bender1999]

How it is possible that the Nogai has more SW-Asia than Chechen. It seems that Chechens have less Sw-Asia than other Northern Caucasians.

[Leto]

How it is possible that the Nogai has more SW-Asia than Chechen. It seems that Chechens have less Sw-Asia than other Northern Caucasians.
On average Nogais are less SW Asian than Chechens.

[Kyp]

Some kind of minority of Azerbaijan Rep. (new kit):

Gedrosian: 22.59
Siberian: 0.68
Northwest_African: 0.00
Southeast_Asian: 0.00
Atlantic_Med: 5.18
North_European: 12.72
South_Asian 2.10
East_African 0.00
Southwest_Asian: 10.43
East_Asian: 1.57
Caucasian: 43.72
South_African: 0.00

Distance to: Azerbaijan
6.81017621 Talysh_Azerbaijan
6.81560709 Udi_Azerbaijan
6.87071321 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
7.36920620 Zaza
7.81005122 Azerbaijani_Turkey
7.83026181 Azerbaijani_Iran
8.25261777 Azerbaijani
8.42896198 Kurd_Kurmanji
8.68805502 Kurd_KAZ
9.20057607 Turk_East
9.88546913 Ingush
10.11521132 Iranian
10.11676332 Kurd_Sorani
10.83484195 Turk_Southeast
10.87983915 Circassian
10.99733604 Turkmen_Iraq
11.47187866 Ossetian
11.58668633 Turk_Ahiska
11.75951955 Turk_Central_East
11.77513482 Lur_Iran
11.78131996 Kumyks
12.10644869 Karachay
12.30382054 Armenian_East
12.43470546 Balkar
12.77267787 Iran_Mazandaran


Target: Azerbaijan
Distance: 1.7909% / 1.79091537 | ADC: 0.25x
64.4 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
23.4 Georgia_Jews
11.8 Talysh_Azerbaijan
0.4 Yemen_Jews


Kazakh name:

Gedrosian: 6.35
Siberian: 24.45
Northwest_African: 0.00
Southeast_Asian: 0.96
Atlantic_Med: 1.69
North_European: 15.04
South_Asian 4.29
East_African 0.30
Southwest_Asian: 2.21
East_Asian: 32.53
Caucasian: 12.18
South_African: 0.00

Distance to: Kazakh1
6.63233745 Kazakh
8.40688408 Karakalpak
8.55658226 Kyrgyz
9.56837499 Kyrgyz_Bishkek
14.91385262 Uyghur
16.75111638 Uzbeks
17.60595922 Hazara
19.69927156 Kalmyk
20.91023195 Altai
21.54956612 Mongol
22.63073795 Uzbek
24.33089189 Bashkir
26.10053065 Crimean_Tatar_Steppe
27.44141396 Turkmen_Uzbekistan
28.16354736 Buryat
30.58806467 Tuva
35.04964764 Oroqen
35.77849354 Nogai
39.15851887 Yoruk
39.24194694 Turkmen_Iran
39.66883537 Tajik_Tajikistan
39.79022242 Daur
40.61954948 Mongola
41.06156597 Tatar_Kazan
41.18453350 Hezhen
41.62580810 Turkmens


Target: Kazakh
Distance: 4.6399% / 4.63990418 | ADC: 0.25x
78.0 Kazakh
8.4 Nogai
6.4 Kyrgyz
4.2 Daur
1.8 Pulliyar
1.2 Yemen_Jews

[Leto]

Some kind of minority of Azerbaijan Rep. (new kit):

Gedrosian: 22.59
Siberian: 0.68
Northwest_African: 0.00
Southeast_Asian: 0.00
Atlantic_Med: 5.18
North_European: 12.72
South_Asian 2.10
East_African 0.00
Southwest_Asian: 10.43
East_Asian: 1.57
Caucasian: 43.72
South_African: 0.00

Distance to: Azerbaijan
6.81017621 Talysh_Azerbaijan
6.81560709 Udi_Azerbaijan
6.87071321 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
7.36920620 Zaza
7.81005122 Azerbaijani_Turkey
7.83026181 Azerbaijani_Iran
8.25261777 Azerbaijani
8.42896198 Kurd_Kurmanji
8.68805502 Kurd_KAZ
9.20057607 Turk_East
9.88546913 Ingush
10.11521132 Iranian
10.11676332 Kurd_Sorani
10.83484195 Turk_Southeast
10.87983915 Circassian
10.99733604 Turkmen_Iraq
11.47187866 Ossetian
11.58668633 Turk_Ahiska
11.75951955 Turk_Central_East
11.77513482 Lur_Iran
11.78131996 Kumyks
12.10644869 Karachay
12.30382054 Armenian_East
12.43470546 Balkar
12.77267787 Iran_Mazandaran


Target: Azerbaijan
Distance: 1.7909% / 1.79091537 | ADC: 0.25x
64.4 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
23.4 Georgia_Jews
11.8 Talysh_Azerbaijan
0.4 Yemen_Jews

They look very similar to the Tat I've seen. Maybe it's the same person?

[Kyp]

They look very similar to the Tat I've seen. Maybe it's the same person?

Could be but it was a new kit with personal name e-mail etc.

[Leto]

An Armenian with less than 1 percent North European

Kit Number: MZ5928425

Population
Gedrosia 17.19 Pct
Siberian -
Northwest_African 2.23 Pct
Southeast_Asian 0.15 Pct
Atlantic_Med 12.10 Pct
North_European 0.67 Pct
South_Asian 0.93 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 15.83 Pct
East_Asian -
Caucasus 50.66 Pct
Sub_Saharan 0.25 Pct

More South Asian than North European :D

[Leto]

Could be but it was a new kit with personal name e-mail etc.
Here is the Tat

Gedrosia 22.10 Pct
Siberian 2.73 Pct
Northwest_African -
Southeast_Asian 0.86 Pct
Atlantic_Med 6.70 Pct
North_European 12.86 Pct
South_Asian 2.20 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 8.63 Pct
East_Asian 0.63 Pct
Caucasus 43.19 Pct
Sub_Saharan 0.12 Pct

It would be a good idea to email that person. If he's another Tat, we'll have a second sample. Tats are pretty rare and basically disappearing in the Republic and elsewhere.

[Bender1999]

Saka, who lived 2577 years ago in Kazakhstan:

Gedrosian: 15.51 Pct
Siberian: 23.34 Pct
Northwest_African: 0.13 Pct
Southeast_Asian: -
Atlantic_Med: 4.89 Pct
North_European: 38.50 Pct
South_Asian: -
East_African: -
Southwest_Asian: -
East_Asian: 17.25 Pct
Caucasian: -
SSA: 0.35 Pct

https://i.ibb.co/f9yWd4j/72-E9-F55-B-C5-DC-4-A58-8-C3-B-418-A3-B373-CFE.jpg

[Kyp]

Here is the Tat

Gedrosia 22.10 Pct
Siberian 2.73 Pct
Northwest_African -
Southeast_Asian 0.86 Pct
Atlantic_Med 6.70 Pct
North_European 12.86 Pct
South_Asian 2.20 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 8.63 Pct
East_Asian 0.63 Pct
Caucasus 43.19 Pct
Sub_Saharan 0.12 Pct

It would be a good idea to email that person. If he's another Tat, we'll have a second sample. Tats are pretty rare and basically disappearing in the Republic and elsewhere.


Urmia + Tat from Takestan:

Gedrosian: 21.14
Siberian: 3.48
Northwest_African: 1.38
Southeast_Asian: 0.00
Atlantic_Med: 10.03
North_European: 8.89
South_Asian 4.97
East_African 1.61
Southwest_Asian: 12.47
East_Asian: 0.45
Caucasian: 35.49
South_African: 0.00

Distance to: Urmia+Tat
5.37096826 Azerbaijani
5.63125208 Azerbaijani_Iran
6.06687729 Turk_Southeast
6.67675820 Azerbaijani_Turkey
6.88231066 Kurd_Kurmanji
7.61286411 Kurd_Sorani
7.79992308 Turkmen_Iraq
8.58347249 Zaza
8.88968503 Iranian_Fars
8.94588173 Turk_South
9.19854880 Turk_Central_East
9.44290739 Talysh_Azerbaijan
9.89579204 Iran_Khorasan
9.92816196 Turk_Central_West
9.93314150 Turk_Anatolia
10.37028447 Lur_Iran
10.60014151 Iraqi_Baghdad
10.79760159 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
10.86838995 Iranian
11.60756219 Turk_Southwest
11.75909010 Turk_East
11.80886531 Turk_West_BlackSea
11.85818283 Kurd_KAZ
11.96086535 Udi_Azerbaijan
12.53972488 Azerbaijani_Dagestan

Target: Urmia+Tat
Distance: 1.7963% / 1.79628430 | ADC: 0.25x
38.6 Turk_Southeast
34.6 Kurd_Kurmanji
16.4 Parsi_India
4.0 Turk_Macedonia
2.8 Italy_Sicily
1.6 Selkup
1.4 Yagnobi



I can look in his match list if I'll find something

[Kyp]

Here is the Tat

Gedrosia 22.10 Pct
Siberian 2.73 Pct
Northwest_African -
Southeast_Asian 0.86 Pct
Atlantic_Med 6.70 Pct
North_European 12.86 Pct
South_Asian 2.20 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 8.63 Pct
East_Asian 0.63 Pct
Caucasus 43.19 Pct
Sub_Saharan 0.12 Pct

It would be a good idea to email that person. If he's another Tat, we'll have a second sample. Tats are pretty rare and basically disappearing in the Republic and elsewhere.

The iranian Tat matches this guy from the Republic:

Gedrosian: 21.29
Siberian: 0.00
Northwest_African: 0.83
Southeast_Asian: 0.00
Atlantic_Med: 9.98
North_European: 9.52
South_Asian: 1.79
East_African: 0.16
Southwest_Asian: 10.74
East_Asian: 2.87
Caucasian: 42.81
South_African: 0.00

Distance to: Match.Tat
4.43306891 Azerbaijani_Turkey
4.57028446 Udi_Azerbaijan
5.44117634 Zaza
5.54623296 Azerbaijani
5.56663273 Azerbaijani_Iran
5.60183898 Turk_East
6.58276538 Kurd_Kurmanji
6.76803517 Talysh_Azerbaijan
7.29861631 Turk_Southeast
7.76425785 Turk_Central_East
8.64869932 Turkmen_Iraq
9.08865777 Kurd_Sorani
9.16390201 Kurd_KAZ
9.84658316 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
9.85660185 Armenian_East
9.99379808 Turk_South
10.18058446 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
10.48136919 Turk_Anatolia
10.49396017 Turk_Central_West
10.55396134 Iranian
11.15221951 Lur_Iran
11.26912153 Turk_Ahiska
11.88718217 Mountain_Jew_Chechnya
11.96875098 Armenian_West
12.19521218 Azeri_Jew

Target: Match.Tat
Distance: 1.5332% / 1.53321840 | ADC: 0.25x
65.6 Udi_Azerbaijan
14.2 Azerbaijani
9.6 Azerbaijani_Turkey
8.0 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
1.4 Spanish_Basque
1.2 Korean

[Leto]

Some interesting results, presumably an Arab. Low Gedrosia, relatively high SW Asian, high Atlantic Med, no SSA and low East African.

Gedrosia 4.87 Pct
Siberian -
Northwest_African 6.48 Pct
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 16.03 Pct
North_European 5.17 Pct
South_Asian 1.04 Pct
East_African 3.77 Pct
Southwest_Asian 29.04 Pct
East_Asian -
Caucasus 33.61 Pct
Sub_Saharan -

Target: N.M.
Distance: 2.2127% / 2.21272989 | ADC: 0.25x
33.0 Bedouin
25.6 MD_Jewish
24.2 Palestinian
14.0 Morocco_Jews
3.2 Egyptans

These Arab references may be incorrect, no one has updated them. But 40% Jewish is still remarkable.

EDIT: she appears to be Israeli, maybe a Yemenite/Ashkenazi mix or something like that.

[Fedora]

Here is the Tat

Gedrosia 22.10 Pct
Siberian 2.73 Pct
Northwest_African -
Southeast_Asian 0.86 Pct
Atlantic_Med 6.70 Pct
North_European 12.86 Pct
South_Asian 2.20 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 8.63 Pct
East_Asian 0.63 Pct
Caucasus 43.19 Pct
Sub_Saharan 0.12 Pct

It would be a good idea to email that person. If he's another Tat, we'll have a second sample. Tats are pretty rare and basically disappearing in the Republic and elsewhere.
They call themself Dagli(Mountaineer) in Azerbaijan as far as I know, there are also Tat villages around Baku, infact before oil production it was like a province of 14k people with almost only Tats. People from eastern Azerbaijan on the Caspian Sea areas are either more iranic or caucasian(the more north you go) influenced. For example North eastern Azerbaijanis score like 19% NE.

[Fedora]

An Armenian with less than 1 percent North European

Kit Number: MZ5928425

Population
Gedrosia 17.19 Pct
Siberian -
Northwest_African 2.23 Pct
Southeast_Asian 0.15 Pct
Atlantic_Med 12.10 Pct
North_European 0.67 Pct
South_Asian 0.93 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 15.83 Pct
East_Asian -
Caucasus 50.66 Pct
Sub_Saharan 0.25 Pct

More South Asian than North European :D

This guys ancestors are from Urfa-Siverek.

[Bender1999]

First Azerbaijani, the second one Georgian. Both from Gədəbəy.

Gedrosia: 24.04 Pct.
Siberian 2.62 Pct
Northwest_African: -
Southeast_Asian: 0.43 Pct
Atlantic_Med: 8.51 Pct
North_European: 5.52 Pct
South_Asian: -
East_African: -
Southwest_Asian: 10.43 Pct
East_Asian: 8.30 Pct
Caucasus: 39.53 Pct
Sub_Saharan 0.60 Pct

Gedrosia: 18.93 Pct
Siberian: -
Northwest_African: -
Southeast_Asian : -
Atlantic_Med: 5.04 Pct
North_European: 8.21 Pct
South_Asian: 0.14 Pct
East_African: 0.10 Pct
Southwest_Asian: 8.06 Oct
East_Asian: -
Caucasus: 59.52 Pct
Sub_Saharan: -

[Leto]

This guys ancestors are from Urfa-Siverek.
So you know the kit? In the Republic of Armenia such a low score is hardly possible.

First Azerbaijani, the second one Georgian. Both from Gədəbəy.

Gedrosia: 24.04 Pct.
Siberian 2.62 Pct
Northwest_African: -
Southeast_Asian: 0.43 Pct
Atlantic_Med: 8.51 Pct
North_European: 5.52 Pct
South_Asian: -
East_African: -
Southwest_Asian: 10.43 Pct
East_Asian: 8.30 Pct
Caucasus: 39.53 Pct
Sub_Saharan 0.60 Pct

Gedrosia: 18.93 Pct
Siberian: -
Northwest_African: -
Southeast_Asian : -
Atlantic_Med: 5.04 Pct
North_European: 8.21 Pct
South_Asian: 0.14 Pct
East_African: 0.10 Pct
Southwest_Asian: 8.06 Oct
East_Asian: -
Caucasus: 59.52 Pct
Sub_Saharan: -
The Georgian is a Muslim or Christian?

[Bender1999]

So you know the kit? In the Republic of Armenia such a low score is hardly possible.

The Georgian is a Muslim or Christian?

Honestly idk, i trust to the guy who claimed both are from there. According wiki 99.9% of the population is Muslim. It could be? I just know that Georgians in Turkey are muslims, but never heard of Muslim Georgians outside of Turkey, just those who converted due Safevi period.

[Leto]

Honestly idk, i trust to the guy who claimed both are from there. According wiki 99.9% of the population is Muslim. It could be? I just know that Georgians in Turkey are muslims, but never heard of Muslim Georgians outside of Turkey, just those who converted due Safevi period.
The majority of Adjarians are Muslim too, around 70%. In Azerbaijan the Georgian minority might as well be Muslim.

[Fedora]

The majority of Adjarians are Muslim too, around 70%. In Azerbaijan the Georgian minority might as well be Muslim.
"According to the 2014 Georgian national census, 60% were Orthodox Christians, and 39% Muslim."
I heard they are converting to Christianiy.

[Bender1999]

Azerbaijani with various backgrounds from Qazax, Goranboy, Ağstafa and Gədəbəy

Gedrosia: 21.03Pct
Siberian: 3.41 Pct
Northwest_African: 1.33 Pct
Southeast_Asian: 0.61 Pct
Atlantic_Med: 10.39 Pct
North_European: 8.12 Pct
South_Asian: 2.71 Pct
East_African: -
Southwest_Asian: 11.16
East_Asian: 5.28 Pct
Caucasus: 35.97 Pct
Sub_Saharan: -

I think we can say with reasonable certainty that NW- Azerbaijan some western parts are the most Turkic influenced places there, i saw results around 10% but i think we could find with a bit more and not less than 5% east eurasian.

[Kyp]

Azerbaijani with various backgrounds from Qazax, Goranboy, Ağstafa and Gədəbəy

Gedrosia: 21.03Pct
Siberian: 3.41 Pct
Northwest_African: 1.33 Pct
Southeast_Asian: 0.61 Pct
Atlantic_Med: 10.39 Pct
North_European: 8.12 Pct
South_Asian: 2.71 Pct
East_African: -
Southwest_Asian: 11.16
East_Asian: 5.28 Pct
Caucasus: 35.97 Pct
Sub_Saharan: -

I think we can say with reasonable certainty that NW- Azerbaijan some western parts are the most Turkic influenced places there, i saw results around 10% but i think we could find with a bit more and not less than 5% east eurasian.

Yes the Republic of Azerbaijan is pretty well covered in terms of autosomal testing, meaning we have a lot of results from almost all regions.
I'm looking forward to see more from Iranian Azerbaijan, there is a lot yet to be explored there..

Btw. I already posted all of these Azerbaijani results

[harutsafaryan07]

An Armenian with less than 1 percent North European

Kit Number: MZ5928425

Population
Gedrosia 17.19 Pct
Siberian -
Northwest_African 2.23 Pct
Southeast_Asian 0.15 Pct
Atlantic_Med 12.10 Pct
North_European 0.67 Pct
South_Asian 0.93 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 15.83 Pct
East_Asian -
Caucasus 50.66 Pct
Sub_Saharan 0.25 Pct

More South Asian than North European :D

look West Armenian

[Bender1999]

Turk from Denizli

Gedrosia: 12.66Pct
Siberian: 8.65 Pct
Northwest_African: 2.18 Pct
Southeast_Asian: 1.47 Pct
Atlantic_Med: 10.08 Pct
North_European: 13.56 Pct
South_Asian: -
East_African: 0.43 Pct
Southwest_Asian: 11.19
East_Asian: 6.06 Pct
Caucasus: 33.72 Pct
Sub_Saharan: -





Btw. I already posted all of these Azerbaijani results

Oh really, before i post here again ill ask you because i found some more.

[Leto]

In case certain people think Kurds are not well enough represented in the spreadsheet, someone can go ahead and make a Yazidi average. Here are Iraqi Yazidi kits:

T663437 Sufyan Yazeedi Sheikh (IQ-YZD)
AQ3652639 Dildar Shamsani (IQ-Yazeedi-Bozan)
HM3195726 Ismail Delshad Pir (IQ-Duhok-Yazeedi)
T857736 *S.Yazeedi (IQ)
T282422 Hakkar Alfati (IQ-YZD)
T663867 Sabah Ravo (IQ-YZD)

There are no purer genetic Kurds than the Yazidis.

[Bender1999]

I also would like to see Afghan results, henry was a good guy still i don’t understand why he is banned.

[Kyp]

In case certain people think Kurds are not well enough represented in the spreadsheet, someone can go ahead and make a Yazidi average. Here are Iraqi Yazidi kits:

T663437 Sufyan Yazeedi Sheikh (IQ-YZD)
AQ3652639 Dildar Shamsani (IQ-Yazeedi-Bozan)
HM3195726 Ismail Delshad Pir (IQ-Duhok-Yazeedi)
T857736 *S.Yazeedi (IQ)
T282422 Hakkar Alfati (IQ-YZD)
T663867 Sabah Ravo (IQ-YZD)

There are no purer genetic Kurds than the Yazidis.

Used those + 3 results I already had:


Yazidi,26.02,0.82,1.41,0.57,8.32,6.31,2.78,0.76,13 .85,0.56,38.55,0.06

Distance to: Yazidi
2.54903903 Kurd_Kurmanji
3.17740460 Kurd_Sorani
3.93677533 Lur_Iran
4.30295247 Zaza
4.61036875 Talysh_Azerbaijan
5.01303301 Iranian
5.05072272 Turkmen_Iraq
5.33678742 Kurd_KAZ
5.59637383 Azerbaijani_Iran
5.97289712 Iranian_Fars
7.21472799 Azerbaijani
7.87137218 Azerbaijani_Turkey
9.24775108 Iran_Mazandaran
9.44281738 Turk_Southeast
9.67218176 Udi_Azerbaijan
10.39561446 Iraqi_Baghdad
11.08672630 Iran_Khorasan
11.38320693 Turk_East
12.01230619 Mandean
12.69961023 Turk_Central_East
12.83855521 Mountain_Jew_Chechnya
12.85634085 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
12.87222203 Iranian_Jew
12.98466788 Azeri_Jew
13.64941024 Turk_South

Target: Yazidi
Distance: 1.3166% / 1.31657192 | ADC: 0.5x
71.6 Kurd_Kurmanji
19.4 Lur_Iran
8.4 Iranian_Fars
0.6 Makrani

[Leto]

Used those + 3 results I already had:


Yazidi,26.02,0.82,1.41,0.57,8.32,6.31,2.78,0.76,13 .85,0.56,38.55,0.06

Your sheet is obsolete:D

Target: Yazidi
Distance: 1.4201% / 1.42006849 | ADC: 0.5x
68.2 Kurd_Kurmanji
20.4 Lur_Iran
11.4 Iranian_Fars

Target: Yazidi
Distance: 1.0578% / 1.05775970 | ADC: 0.25x
50.6 Kurd_Kurmanji
30.2 Lur_Iran
11.0 Iranian_Fars
6.6 Kurd_KAZ
1.4 Spanish_Asturias
0.2 Spanish_Basque

But thanks!

[Leto]

User Korialstrasz (his father is Georgian and Circassian, mother is a Balkan Turk)

Y-DNA: G-M210
mtDNA: U5b2a3a

Gedrosia 13.64 Pct
Siberian 4.66 Pct
Northwest_African 0.50 Pct
Southeast_Asian 0.21 Pct
Atlantic_Med 14.13 Pct
North_European 22.39 Pct
South_Asian 0.20 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 4.72 Pct
East_Asian -
Caucasus 38.88 Pct
Sub_Saharan 0.67 Pct

Target: Korialstrasz
Distance: 2.4647% / 2.46474760 | ADC: 0.25x
35.8 Turk_Macedonia
30.6 Ossetian
14.0 Crimean_Tatar_Mountain
10.8 Chechen
7.6 Balkar
1.2 Selkup

Without Crimean_Tatar

Target: Korialstrasz
Distance: 2.2342% / 2.23419107 | ADC: 0.25x
43.6 Turk_Macedonia
24.8 Ossetian
21.8 Balkar
6.4 Chechen
2.0 Karachay
1.4 Selkup

[Kyp]

Iranian Name:

Gedrosian: 18.47
Siberian: 3.63
Northwest_African: 0.87
Southeast_Asian: 1.92
Atlantic_Med: 7.93
North_European: 8.72
South_Asian: 3.02
East_African: 0.29
Southwest_Asian: 11.46
East_Asian: 2.86
Caucasian: 40.46
South_African: 0.38

Distance to: TG1
2.88674557 Azerbaijani_Turkey
3.94967087 Azerbaijani
4.24509128 Azerbaijani_Iran
4.83551445 Turk_Southeast
5.68727527 Turk_Central_East
6.59331480 Turk_South
6.81266468 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
6.97355003 Turk_East
7.43526731 Zaza
7.48380919 Kurd_Kurmanji
7.83309007 Turk_Anatolia
8.21269749 Turk_Central_West
8.24012136 Turkmen_Iraq
8.25989709 Udi_Azerbaijan
8.27105193 Talysh_Azerbaijan
9.11691285 Kurd_Sorani
10.41511882 Turk_West_BlackSea
10.81427298 Turk_Southwest
11.01446776 Kurd_KAZ
11.27203176 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
11.46176688 Iranian
11.66164654 Lur_Iran
11.92245780 Armenian_East
12.23613092 Yoruk
12.39640674 Iranian_Fars

Target: TG1
Distance: 2.4581% / 2.45806670 | ADC: 0.5x
92.0 Azerbaijani_Turkey
5.0 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
2.2 Turk_East
0.8 PANIYA

[Leto]

Iranian Name:

Gedrosian: 18.47
Siberian: 3.63
Northwest_African: 0.87
Southeast_Asian: 1.92
Atlantic_Med: 7.93
North_European: 8.72
South_Asian: 3.02
East_African: 0.29
Southwest_Asian: 11.46
East_Asian: 2.86
Caucasian: 40.46
South_African: 0.38

Distance to: TG1
2.88674557 Azerbaijani_Turkey
3.94967087 Azerbaijani
4.24509128 Azerbaijani_Iran
4.83551445 Turk_Southeast
5.68727527 Turk_Central_East
6.59331480 Turk_South
6.81266468 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
6.97355003 Turk_East
7.43526731 Zaza
7.48380919 Kurd_Kurmanji
7.83309007 Turk_Anatolia
8.21269749 Turk_Central_West
8.24012136 Turkmen_Iraq
8.25989709 Udi_Azerbaijan
8.27105193 Talysh_Azerbaijan
9.11691285 Kurd_Sorani
10.41511882 Turk_West_BlackSea
10.81427298 Turk_Southwest
11.01446776 Kurd_KAZ
11.27203176 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
11.46176688 Iranian
11.66164654 Lur_Iran
11.92245780 Armenian_East
12.23613092 Yoruk
12.39640674 Iranian_Fars

Target: TG1
Distance: 2.4581% / 2.45806670 | ADC: 0.5x
92.0 Azerbaijani_Turkey
5.0 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
2.2 Turk_East
0.8 PANIYA
8.4% East Eurasian. Must be a Turk.

[Kyp]

8.4% East Eurasian. Must be a Turk.

It's an exclusive Iranian name, so likely Iranian Azerbaijani.

[Aren]

The higher Atlantic_Med in Azeris than in neighbouring Persians/Kurds despite the significantly higher Turkic input in the former suggest Azeris either have some Anatolian Turkish input or their non-Turkic side was part-Armenian or Armenian-like.

[Bender1999]

The higher Atlantic_Med in Azeris than in neighbouring Persians/Kurds despite the significantly higher Turkic input in the former suggest Azeris either have some Anatolian Turkish input or their non-Turkic side was part-Armenian or Armenian-like.

Yes this one has probably Anatolian Turkish ancestors, he or she has lower Gedrosian than the Iranian average, even for an Azerbaijani.

[Leto]

@Aren, can you update Muslim Lebanese and Palestinian for this oracle? I got tired of waiting for you to do Sweden, so I did it myself.

[Aren]

@Aren, can you update Muslim Lebanese and Palestinian for this oracle? I got tired of waiting for you to do Sweden, so I did it myself.

I was away for two weeks. Sadly I don't have enough Muslims from Lebanon or Palestine to make an average. Your Swedish average looks good though.