Iraqi Turkmen

[Halgurd]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EX2J6nmXsAITyUo.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EXfAC-SXQAAfqTh.jpg

https://cdnuploads.aa.com.tr/uploads/Contents/2017/09/09/thumbs_b_c_1a5ca7d8bb16fc96a73d71b4dcdcfb05.jpg?v= 224944

[Kyp]

Irano-Assyroids

[Mejgusu]

Yes, syrian turkmens look much more like their relatives as iraqi turkmen. Those ones are heavily intermixed and assimilated after the flight of many them to anatomia and massacres.


Sorry i deleted the last sentence, i think those one who look like anatolian turks are basically anatolian turks :picard2:

[Kyp]

Genetically they are for the most part similar to their Kurdish neighbours, however some still appear to have more turkic input making them cluster very close to Azerbaijanis and Eastern Turks:



Iraqi Turkmen from Kerkuk:

Gedrosian: 21.99
Siberian: 3.33
Northwest_African: 0.40
Southeast_Asian: 0.71
Atlantic_Med: 9.03
North_European: 6.37
South_Asian 2.72
East_African 1.21
Southwest_Asian: 15.66
East_Asian: 2.08
Caucasian: 36.47
SSA: 0.00

Distance to: Iraq_Turkmen
3.81565198 Turkmen_Iraq
4.95122207 Azerbaijani_Iran
5.09987255 Kurd_Sorani
5.21442231 Kurd_Kurmanji
5.38088283 Azerbaijani
5.71615255 Turk_Southeast
6.66586078 Azerbaijani_Turkey
6.93821303 Zaza
7.99421041 Lur_Iran
8.12739196 Iranian_Fars
8.33825521 Talysh_Azerbaijan
9.03395262 Kurd
9.47429681 Iranian
9.75392741 Turk_Central_East
9.84308387 Kurds
9.89100602 Turk_South
10.37450240 Iranians
10.52836644 Iran_Central_East
10.54525012 Uzbekistan_Jews
11.14997758 Turk_Central_West
11.15947131 Turk_East
11.21524409 Turk_Anatolia
11.35791354 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
11.49475968 Iran_Khorasan
13.40533103 Turk_Southwest

Target: Iraq_Turkmen
Distance: 1.0078% / 1.00777241 | ADC: 0.25x
77.2 Turkmen_Iraq
10.4 Turk_Southeast
8.2 Iran_Central_East
2.0 Turkmen_Uzbekistan
1.4 Nganassan
0.4 Ket
0.2 French_Basque
0.2 Pais_Vasco

[Halgurd]

Genetically they are for the most part similar to their Kurdish neighbours, however some still appear to have more turkic input making them cluster very close to Azerbaijanis and Eastern Turks:

Do we have any haplogroup results?

[Mejgusu]

Do we have any haplogroup results?

I dont think verry different to other iraqis.

[Oghuz]

They all can pass in Iran

[Kyp]

Do we have any haplogroup results?

E1b1b mostly with J2, R1a, J1 being secondary. Similar to Kurds. Distant to Arabs.

[Mejgusu]

They all can pass in Iran

Maybe only to those ones, who have big Arabian/African admix. Iraqis are definitely more SW-Asian shifted, i think they were genetically half Iranian half saudi.

[Oghuz]

Maybe only to those ones, who have big Arabian/African admix. Iraqis are definitely more SW-Asian shifted, i think they were genetically half Iranian half saudi.

Iraqi Turkmen posted in the OP can pass in Iran.

[Mejgusu]

Iraqi Turkmen posted in the OP can pass in Iran.

I thought you mean all in general. But yes, the first guy looks like this soleymani who was killed by usa.

[Kyp]

Iraqi Turkmen posted in the OP can pass in Iran.


I thought you mean all in general. But yes, the first guy looks like this soleymani who was killed by usa.

No surprise as they in general cluster closest to other Iranian and Kurdish groups

[Mejgusu]

No surprise as they in general cluster closest to other Iranian and Kurdish groups

I think that settlements of iraqi turkmens were once iranic land before islam. they just trooped into intermixing arabs and iranians, my thoughts.

[Oghuz]

I thought you mean all in general. But yes, the first guy looks like this soleymani who was killed by usa.

No he doesn't. Different skull shape

https://s.abcnews.com/images/International/WireAP_3d723033dba94124a529a46bda7aead9_16x9_992.j pg


E1b1b mostly with J2, R1a, J1 being secondary. Similar to Kurds. Distant to Arabs.

Nice

[Benim]

Iraqi Turkmen posted in the OP can pass in Iran.

What about him? he's iraqi turkmen too

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?321753-Classify-TR-actor-Selim-Bayraktar

[Friedrich Ulrich]

Typical turkoman

[Mejgusu]

Typical turkoman

Definitely :picard2:

[Zoro]

Do we have any haplogroup results?


Haplogroups from Iraq study. Kurds had the highest R1a and J2a1b.

https://i.imgur.com/SliTnNI.jpg


A different study

https://i.imgur.com/qyG7iG1.jpg

[Eline]

Kurds and Turks should do a population exchange. Turkoman should go to Istanbul, Ankara and Kurds from Istanbul should migrate back into Kurdistan. Problem solved for everybody!

[Mejgusu]

Kurds and Turks should do a population exchange. Turkoman should go to Istanbul, Ankara and Kurds from Istanbul should migrate back into Kurdistan. Problem solved for everybody!

Yes and the millions of mixed people will be haten by everyone, kurd hate half turks turks hate half kurds. And then other countries come and incite conflicts inside kurdistan. The story about creating a new failed state...

[eatensemn]

https://i.imgur.com/SliTnNI.jpg

So arab have %5 Q and kurd have same %2 as turkmen. What's the explanation for this?

[Mejgusu]

So arab have %5 Q and kurd have same %2 as turkmen. What's the explanation for this?

Tukic slave trade maybe? Arabs needed warriors in early islamic era.

[Eline]

Yes and the millions of mixed people will be haten by everyone, kurd hate half turks turks hate half kurds. And then other countries come and incite conflicts inside Kurdistan. The story about creating a new failed state...No, very easy. Mixed people can choose between to become Turkic or Kurdic, either assimilated by the Turks or assimilated by the Kurds. Personally I know for which option I would go, hahaha.

And Kurdistan is already in making, The process that will lead toward Greater Kurdistan is developing according the plan. So, the population exchange has to happen sooner or later.

[Eline]

Haplogroups from Iraq study. Kurds had the highest R1a and J2a1b.

https://i.imgur.com/SliTnNI.jpg


A different study

https://i.imgur.com/qyG7iG1.jpgBut you should combine all types of J2 together. So, J2a1b + J2a1h + J2a1* + J2b

[Hapanuwa]

No, very easy. Mixed people can choose between to become Turkic or Kurdic, either assimilated by the Turks or assimilated by the Kurds. Personally I know for which option I would go, hahaha.

And Kurdistan is already in making, The process that will lead toward Greater Kurdistan is developing according the plan. So, the population exchange has to happen sooner or later.

As if Kurds from western Turkey and the big cities would migrate to Northern Iraq like that :lmao

You might want to think this through again

[Eline]

According to that study Kurds in Iraq have 26,26% J2a and 21,21% R1. Yezidi Kurds in Iraq have 19,8 % J2a and 29,7 % R1

Kurds
J1 = 17/99 = 17,17%
J2a = 20 + 2+ 4 = 26. 26/99 = 26.26%
R1 = 17 + 4 = 21. 21/99 = 21,21%

Yezidi Kurds
J1 = 9/101 = 8,9%
J2a = 9 + 11 = 20. 20/101 = 19,8%
R1 = 9 + 21 = 30. 30/101 - 29,7%

https://i.postimg.cc/m2bvpqWg/ezdi-y-dna.png

[Eline]

As if Kurds from western Turkey and the big cities would migrate to Northern Iraq like that :lmao

You might want to think this through againI think many will migrate back to where they come from, Eastern Anatolia.

This happened in Turkey many times. Pontic Greeks migrated to Greece, Armenians were moved to non-Armenian Persian/Iranian lands in the Caucasus.

[Mejgusu]

No, very easy. Mixed people can choose between to become Turkic or Kurdic, either assimilated by the Turks or assimilated by the Kurds. Personally I know for which option I would go, hahaha.

And Kurdistan is already in making, The process that will lead toward Greater Kurdistan is developing according the plan. So, the population exchange has to happen sooner or later.

Sonetimes thats sounds good. I really would see how armenians and kurds are clashing together. Unfortunately i would feel sorry for those kurds who dont be insane, are suffering for that kind of shit policy...

[Arsen_]

I think many will migrate back to where they come from, Eastern Anatolia.

This happened in Turkey many times. Pontic Greeks migrated to Greece, Armenians were moved to non-Armenian Persian/Iranian lands in the Caucasus.

Please stop that idiocy. You are absolutely clueless about what you wrote. These lands in the Caucasus have belonged to Armenians since time immemorial.

[aklifal]

So arab have %5 Q and kurd have same %2 as turkmen. What's the explanation for this?


Tukic slave trade maybe? Arabs needed warriors in early islamic era.

Q ≠ turkic