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Lemminkäinen
05-14-2020, 09:07 AM
This lovely lady is a Saami news anchor. You can see her name on the screen. Do you think she is Nordid or partly Nordid? Do you see Samoyedic traits in her? Could she represent native Fennoscandinavians without distinct North Asian or Scandinavian traits?

https://images.cdn.yle.fi/image/upload/w_940,dpr_1.0,fl_lossy,f_auto,q_auto,d_yle-areena.jpg/v24/13-1-2398080.jpg

yamagi
05-14-2020, 09:37 AM
Probadly close to what Finns looked like before they intermixed with West Scandinavians

Lemminkäinen
05-14-2020, 01:18 PM
Probadly close to what Finns looked like before they intermixed with West Scandinavians

Maybe, maybe not. Today we don't know how they looked, but it is possible that we see something after Finnish researchers reveal genetic data from the Iron Age Eura/Luistari cemetery. All men belonged to N, but we have not yet autosomal data

Benyzero
05-14-2020, 01:38 PM
Uralische byuuudy

Lemminkäinen
05-14-2020, 01:52 PM
Uralische byuuudy

She looks Uralic indeed, but is very different than Maris who share same location on PCA's. This girl assumes to be fully Mari.

https://gdb.rferl.org/4AC5E67F-51E1-4937-B869-DC07C0D3CE6E_w816_s.jpg

mutabor
05-14-2020, 02:10 PM
Maybe, maybe not. Today we don't know how they looked, but it is possible that we see something after Finnish researchers reveal genetic data from the Iron Age Eura/Luistari cemetery. All men belonged to N, but we have not yet autosomal data

If all men belonged to haplogroup N then it is possible that they didn't intermix with European populations when they moved along Arctic shores and along habitat of reindeer. Hence when first proto-Finns arrived into Finland they could look predominantly North Asian like Yakuts and they started to mix with Europeans in Finland.

chociprasa
05-14-2020, 02:40 PM
North Lappid.

Ülev
05-14-2020, 03:11 PM
minä olen Sundqvist, terve Aletta
indeed beauty, West Uralische beauty

Lemminkäinen
05-14-2020, 03:21 PM
If all men belonged to haplogroup N then it is possible that they didn't intermix with European populations when they moved along Arctic shores and along habitat of reindeer. Hence when first proto-Finns arrived into Finland they could look predominantly North Asian like Yakuts and they started to mix with Europeans in Finland.

Right. Those Luistari samples are interesting especially because most of them are dated to 500-600 AD and are only 200-300 years younger than the assumed migration of Finnish speakers to Southwestern Finland. So we can suggest that they were original Finns. Finnish researchers published this data April 2019 and afaik no new information has published later. Autosomal data would revesl whether they were Uralic, Baltic or Scandinavian. So Finnish researcher are now "king makers" and thinking about how harsh are public opinions the pressures on them can be high