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Castizoz
05-15-2020, 03:21 PM
A good example of a darker Brit who can't pass in the Nordic countries at all:

https://i.imgur.com/Suf6nmF.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/PzXjx5E.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/vmGwmQb.jpg

Curiously enough, he was born in Northeast England where most people are very light as a rule.
Could he pass better in Spain or in Denmark?

Roy
05-15-2020, 03:25 PM
He likely passes as neither.

Tooting Carmen
05-15-2020, 03:28 PM
A good example of a darker Brit who can't pass in the Nordic countries at all:

https://i.imgur.com/Suf6nmF.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/PzXjx5E.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/vmGwmQb.jpg

Curiously enough, he was born in Northeast England where most people are very light as a rule.
Could he pass better in Spain or in Denmark?

Spain. Btw, Northeast England has a surprising number of darker types despite its history and geography. I've mentioned this before - Cheryl Tweedy, Atkinson, Ross Noble, Ant McPartlin, Anthony Hutton...

Norb
05-15-2020, 03:31 PM
Danish

Castizoz
05-15-2020, 03:34 PM
Of course my examples are rather extreme.

British/French overlap or something like that would be more accurate.

Samnium
05-15-2020, 03:46 PM
Doesn't look Iberian at all even if he's dark for UK and NW standards...

Immanenz
05-15-2020, 03:49 PM
Iberian

FergusNeil
05-15-2020, 03:54 PM
Passes best as a legend

Castizoz
05-15-2020, 03:55 PM
Passes best as a legend

Hahahaha, yeah that's true.

There are also some people who think he has Indian roots. What a bullshit.
He looks very Western European.

yamagi
05-15-2020, 03:55 PM
His best fit would be Southern France I believe.

Pɪᴇᴛʀᴏ Cʜᴀʀᴅᴏɴɴᴇ
05-15-2020, 03:56 PM
He resembles Antonio Banderas a little bit, therefore he probably fits better in Iberia, especially in Spain.

Harkonnen
05-15-2020, 04:00 PM
Blackadder was his best work

Grace O'Malley
05-15-2020, 04:04 PM
I don't personally find that darker Brits/Irish pass as Iberian. This seems to be just a default opinion i.e darker Brits/Iberian. Someone like Andrea Corr doesn't look Iberian to me but I guess simplistic dark hair and eyes Iberian. Brits/Irish are less closer to the Iberian peninsula than Germans but people will reinforce this British/Iberian connection. People need to move on.

I mean what's so Iberian about Andrea Corr other than denoting dark hair and eyes as solely an Iberian attribute. :)

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/0c/06/e3/0c06e3e52e8abf905beffba83a23171e.jpg

https://evoke.ie/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/rexfeatures_9214938bm-copy-696x503.jpg

Castizoz
05-15-2020, 04:08 PM
The UK and Iberia both share Atlantid/Atlanto-Med types.
But generally I agree with you. Apart from that, they are very different.

Britain has much more Anglo-Saxon/Nordic/Keltic types, while Iberia on the other side has a lot of Gracile-Med/Berid people who would look alien to Britain.

Grace O'Malley
05-15-2020, 04:08 PM
He resembles Antonio Banderas a little bit, therefore he probably fits better in Iberia, especially in Spain.

Looks zero like Antonio Banderas. Antonio was very handsome whereas no one could say the same about Rowan Atkinson. :picard2:

Castizoz
05-15-2020, 04:13 PM
I don't know why but the British really are the Northern Europeans with a higher percentage of dark-haired and dark-eyed people compared to Scandinavia, for example.

Pɪᴇᴛʀᴏ Cʜᴀʀᴅᴏɴɴᴇ
05-15-2020, 04:17 PM
Looks zero like Antonio Banderas. Antonio was very handsome whereas no one could say the same about Rowan Atkinson. :picard2:

He does look a little bit like Antonio Banderas and the appearance similarity is not only defined by how handsome they are.

Immanenz
05-15-2020, 04:17 PM
I don't personally find that darker Brits/Irish pass as Iberian. This seems to be just a default opinion i.e darker Brits/Iberian. Someone like Andrea Corr doesn't look Iberian to me but I guess simplistic dark hair and eyes Iberian. Brits/Irish are less closer to the Iberian peninsula than Germans but people will reinforce this British/Iberian connection. People need to move on.

I mean what's so Iberian about Andrea Corr other than denoting dark hair and eyes as solely an Iberian attribute. :)

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/0c/06/e3/0c06e3e52e8abf905beffba83a23171e.jpg

https://evoke.ie/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/rexfeatures_9214938bm-copy-696x503.jpg

The question was only if he looks more Danish or Iberian. Plus I would not see Rowan as a typical example for darker Brits , so that relatives this discussion on many levels

Grace O'Malley
05-15-2020, 04:19 PM
The UK and Iberia both share Atlantid/Atlanto-Med types.
But generally I agree with you. Apart from that, they are very different.

Britain has much more Anglo-Saxon/Nordic/Keltic types, while Iberia on the other side has a lot of Gracile-Med/Berid people who would look alien to Britain.

Genetic distances mean something. They are not exactly close in a European context. In fact I'm closer to Ukrainians than Spaniards. So much for this Atlantid/Atlantid Med. Not many Brits are Atlantid Med by the way. Just goes to show what a crock of shit anthropology is with placing European origins. Irish for example are one of the most Bell Beaker populations in Europe which explains why they are closer genetically to populations like the Czech over Spanish people Anyway anyone that has a smidgen of genetics knows that being darker doesn't mean anything genetically. Populations cluster with their countrymen which kind of shows that anthropology should be left in the 19th century. Dark Brits are not any different than their red haired or blond compatriots genetically. They aren't anymore Mediterranean. I would think people would get with this century. So no they aren't a remnant Mediterranean population but you can be a completely Northern European genetically and have brown eyes and dark hair.

Kyp
05-15-2020, 04:24 PM
I don't personally find that darker Brits/Irish pass as Iberian. This seems to be just a default opinion i.e darker Brits/Iberian. Someone like Andrea Corr doesn't look Iberian to me but I guess simplistic dark hair and eyes Iberian. Brits/Irish are less closer to the Iberian peninsula than Germans but people will reinforce this British/Iberian connection. People need to move on.



Distance to: Spanish
26.30775551 English
32.63745088 German

Avicenna
05-15-2020, 04:28 PM
He passes better in southern France /Italy if anything

Davystayn
05-15-2020, 04:33 PM
He has got something mixed in from ages ago, my guess a distant Indian ancestor from the days of the raj

Castizoz
05-15-2020, 04:34 PM
He has got something mixed in from ages ago, my guess a distant Indian ancestor from the days of the raj

My guess is a distant Neolithic ancestor from 7000 years ago. LOL.

Grace O'Malley
05-15-2020, 04:36 PM
Distance to: Spanish
26.30775551 English
32.63745088 German

English are far closer to Germans than Spanish though.

Distance to: English
0.00660888 English_Cornwall
0.00666391 Welsh
0.00762864 Scottish
0.00997250 Orcadian
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Populations like the Irish are even more extreme it that they are more distant to European populations except the British and Scandinavians but still far closer to Germans than Spanish.

Distance to: Irish
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0.00929077 Orcadian
0.01122034 English
0.01185730 Welsh
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0.01390465 Shetlandic
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0.05750167 Swiss_French
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0.05815613 Croatian
0.06095277 Slovakian
0.06281746 French_Provence
0.06365914 Italian_Aosta_Valley
0.06646174 Polish
0.06739436 Spanish_Penedes
0.06800109 Bosnian
0.06826627 Spanish_Barcelones
0.06957859 Spanish_Girona
0.06999662 Spanish_Catalunya_Central
0.07042311 Montenegrin
0.07079906 French_South
0.07087282 Spanish_Lleida
0.07095513 Italian_Northeast
0.07114348 Spanish_Camp_de_Tarragona
0.07117298 Sorb_Niederlausitz
0.07125882 Moldovan_o
0.07184315 Spanish_Pais_Vasco
0.07196791 Spanish_Peri-Barcelona
0.07216773 Spanish_Mallorca
0.07233434 Spanish_Cataluna

Davystayn
05-15-2020, 04:41 PM
My guess is a distant Neolithic ancestor from 7000 years ago. LOL.

People forget that like France, the imperial days brought a lot of interaction from people from all over the world, a good many white londoners for example, can have very diverse origins

Castizoz
05-15-2020, 04:42 PM
He has got something mixed in from ages ago, my guess a distant Indian ancestor from the days of the raj

Btw what looks so "non-British" or non-European about him?
There are way swarthier and more atypical people than Rowan Atkinson.

For sure he isn't an Anglo-Saxon type but we still don't know that much what the Celts or pre-Celtic people of Britain looked like.

Davystayn
05-15-2020, 04:47 PM
Of course and here are certain darker types that are indigenous, the Romans noted the swarthy look of the silures tribe in south wales. Point was that largish countries (relative to europe at least) with imperial pasts show a lot more diverse looks which pop up now and again. The romans also had some input, however small

Kyp
05-15-2020, 04:47 PM
English are far closer to Germans than Spanish though.



Obviously yes

Freeroostah
05-15-2020, 05:07 PM
Iberian
Also longer curly hair suits him well

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-Zm8H6G108

Creoda
05-15-2020, 05:17 PM
English are far closer to Germans than Spanish though.



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0.06540117 German
0.06986679 English

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0.06479490 German
0.06900754 English

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0.06685355 German
0.06972973 English

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0.06412912 German
0.06866002 English

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0.06019412 German
0.06545703 English

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0.05656578 German
0.06133967 English

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0.06584718 English
0.06720964 German

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0.06988859 German
0.07054370 English

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0.07145611 German
0.07780990 English

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0.06862643 German
0.07542251 English

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0.05930926 German
0.06563267 English

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0.06031024 German
0.06425155 English

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0.08100847 German
0.08577864 English

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0.05806954 German
0.06326209 English

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0.06705249 German
0.07191094 English

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0.07210853 German
0.07791194 English

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0.06535495 German
0.07095821 English

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0.05836266 German
0.06353878 English

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0.06141725 German
0.06596423 English

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0.06826005 German
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0.06860458 English

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0.07206774 German
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0.06974450 English

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0.07195807 German
0.07680685 English

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0.06678570 German
0.07112417 English

Creoda
05-15-2020, 05:29 PM
Atkinson's sense of humour is too good to be from either place.

samario
05-15-2020, 05:32 PM
Actually, he passes just fine in Spain.

The Blade
05-15-2020, 08:18 PM
Transmediterranid (Atlanto/Gracile mix) + Baskid + Alpinid.
Definitely Iberian peninsula.

dududud
05-15-2020, 08:48 PM
I have a cousin like him from Northern France, except he looks more wogg, but Rowan have a kind of darkish alpinoid "british" vibration, according my 75% french sensation.