Iran-N myths & BS debunked

[Zoro]

I have seen alot of myths and BS about Iran-N floating around. Some of it has to do with amateurs using tools not designed for this type of work and others are just totally confused so I figured I would post some formal stats that would debunk them.

1- Iran-N peaks in other Zagrosian Neolithic genomes from the Kurdistan area and W. Iran AND in the BA Shahr-e-Sokhteh samples

2- Iran-N peaks in Iranian Baloch and NOT in Pakistani Baloch

3- Contrary to the BS some have heard there is genetic continuity in most areas of the W. Asia. Thus if Iran-N was recovered in the Kurdistan area it's only logical that Kurds would have one of the highest admixture. Same applies to other ancients too, whether it be Natufian, Levant, ENF etc. If someone tells you that moderns from those areas don't have any admixture from the ancient genomes from their area that should be a red flag to you that they don't know what the fuck they are talking about.

4- CHG and Iran-N are NOT the same thing. The table below clearly shows this.

5- Polish people are much more related to Iran-N than Sardinians or Basque

6- If the table looks reasonable to you based on the most similar and least similar populations don't pick random samples from the table and use them to say the results don't make sense. If they make sense for the top and bottom they must make sense for the intermediate groups. Software does not discriminate based on sample period.

7- Anatolia-N is almost an outgroup to Iran-N

8- Kurds have alot more Iran-N than Armenians.


If I missed something feel free to add with supporting evidence (G25 doesn't cut it in the scientific world) scientific papers are acceptable


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QpWave – Test, Iran-N – Cladiness Check – Rank 0


SAMPLE
CHI SQ
P-value
SNPs USED


Iran_Wezmeh_N
10.53
0.651
336549


Iran_TepeAbdulHosein_N
12.7
0.471
299101


Iran_BA1_ShahrISokhta
14.49
0.34
232407


.Baloch_IR
23.01
0.042
145353


.Iranian_SW
32.61
0.002
178652


Brahui.DG
33.36
0.002
220945


.Kurd_Kurmanji
34.45
0.001
180890


Turkmenistan_Gonur_BA_1
35.83
0.001
245459


.Kurd_Kurmanji
37.02
0
181245


.Pashtun_Afg
37.81
0
139440


.Iranian_NW
41.2
0
138528


Iranian.DG
42
0
218275


Balochi.DG
44
0
221277


Lezgin.DG
48.87
0
219053


Iran_IA_Hasanlu
51.77
0
283111


Iran_C_SehGabi
53.58
0
270318


Kalash.DG
67.15
0
227762


Adygei.DG
68.15
0
219228


Georgian.DG
72.55
0
219415


Russia_NOssetian.DG
73.56
0
218318


Tajik.DG
80.34
0
186159


.Assyrians
82.58
0
140584


Sindhi.DG
90.42
0
220004


Armenia_EBA_Kura
103.98
0
260184


Polish.DG
111.47
0
279832


Georgia_Kotias.SG (http://Georgia_Kotias.SG)
111.88
0
330964


Armenian.DG
113.03
0
218802


Greek.DG
123.43
0
217360


Jew_Iraqi.DG
126.67
0
219364


Druze.DG
126.97
0
217777


Bulgarian
138.77
0
216181


Armenia_C
155.23
0
254066


Estonian.DG
176.86
0
215947


Basque.DG
202.55
0
217227


BedouinB.DG
206.67
0
223600


Sardinian.DG
241.81
0
217032


Irula.DG
352.54
0
221822


Gujarati_1000G
354.05
0
78632


Anatolia_N
401.3
0
144115


Buryat.SG (http://Buryat.SG)
896.94
0
284998


Burmese.DG
1,129.55
0
218952


Chinese_Han_1000G
1,809.99
0
100086


Bougainville.DG
2,036.33
0
237654


Esan.DG
2,782.84
0
205477







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[SharpFork]

Contrary to the BS some have heard there is genetic continuity in most areas of the W. Asia. Thus if Iran-N was recovered in the Kurdistan area it's only logical that Kurds would have one of the highest admixture. Same applies to other ancients too, whether it be Natufian, Levant, ENF etc. .
No this is not logical, it's simply a empty claim or merely a likely trend, for Natufians I'm pretty sure Arabians are closer to them than Levantines for example.

[Zoro]

No this is not logical, it's simply a empty claim or merely a likely trend, for Natufians I'm pretty sure Arabians are closer to them than Levantines for example.

Ok but you get the idea. People from the Levant would have one of the highest. I also said one of the highest, but to say that Kurds don't have Iran-N or people from the Levant don't have Natufian is retarded and against common sense.

So there it's logical. In the case of Iran-N it's the Baloch from the other side of Iran that have the highest but this doesn't change the fact that kurds have one of the highest.