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XenophobicPrussian
05-24-2020, 08:09 PM
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d5/HalfdanBryn.jpg

https://photos.geni.com/p13/53/3b/ed/57/53444847c3634881/skjermbilde_2018-03-01_kl_original.jpg

https://books.openedition.org/obp/docannexe/image/2384/img-1.jpg

Looks Alpinized to me. I'd say Sub-Nordid. I notice a lot of old anthropologists really had a thing against Alpinids, and it being skull shape based rather than pigmentation. I don't agree or disagree btw with this, I have no idea, no one really can say they do. I just find it fascinating, but can't say I have noticed any correlates with skull shape within the same ethnicity(overall phenotype maybe to a certain extent, but not just "short faced vs long faced"). Don't find it overtly silly either, and if you think any anthropologist got into anthropology without caring about the psychological correlates, yeah, that's not going to be a thing.

On a random note, https://www.openbookpublishers.com/reader/123#page/1/mode/2up is a good read. Really shows how silly some of this stuff was, and it isn't written from a straight up race denying, SJW point of view. It's pretty much entirely a historical account and pretty neutral.

(these quotes are not from Halfdan btw, just discussing the book now)

"Arbo compared the distribution of short skulls and long skulls with the relative number of serviceable recruits and with assumed local differences in behaviour and lifestyle. On the basis of this comparison, he argued that racial difference in the Norwegian population could explain regional variations in health, military capability, personality/character, intelligence and behaviour. Whereas people from the typically brachycephalic populations along the coast stood out as weak, nervous, worried, petty and narrow-minded, he argued the overwhelmingly dolichocephalic rural inhabitants of the inland were brave, handsome, resilient, bold and open-minded."

"In his 1899 book Norwegian National Psychology, he demonstrated that the geographical distribution of short and long skulls coincided with the distribution of votes in the parliamentary elections, and claimed that this could be explained by the double racial origin of the nation (see. Fig. 6). Individuals from the predominantly Anaryan rural population on the west coast were distrustful, bigoted, backward-looking and politically conservative, and were therefore inclined to vote for the Høyre Party, while the predominantly Aryan population in the south eastern inland were more open-minded, courageous and intelligent, and thus they represented the progressive forces of society and would most likely vote for the Venstre Party." (I like this anthropologist's reason for disliking Alpinids though :) )

"Ammon was particularly thrilled by Hansen’s analysis of the psychological differences between the two races, contrasting the aristocratic, freedom-loving attitude of the long skulls with the excessive ideas of equality held by the short skulls, who lacked any sense of freedom. Hansen’s work demonstrated, according to Ammon, that the slave-like mentality of the short skulls and the aristocratic mentality of the long skulls were not the result of the centuries in which the Anaryans had been slaves to the Aryans; instead, the master/slave relationship had emerged naturally from the ancient inborn psychological differences between the two races."

"A linchpin of Hansen’s account was the notion of the two races within the Norwegian people. However, Hansen did not base this view upon his own empirical research; instead, he leaned strongly on the work of Arbo and others. This meant that Hansen ran into trouble when Arbo discovered that blondness tended to coincide with brachycephaly in southeast Norway and began arguing for the existence of a third race, one that was blond and short-skulled." :laugh:

chociprasa
05-24-2020, 08:25 PM
Not really a Subnordid or any Alpinid at all. Looks very Norwegian to me. Probably a Tydal.

XenophobicPrussian
05-24-2020, 08:35 PM
Not really a Subnordid or any Alpinid at all. Looks very Norwegian to me. Probably a Tydal.
I agree he looks Norwegian. Tydal is just Alpinid with minor differences, and the irony is still there regardless because he would've disliked Tydals.

Immanenz
05-24-2020, 08:35 PM
Not really a Subnordid or any Alpinid at all. Looks very Norwegian to me. Probably a Tydal.

not really a Tydal, since there is nothing cm about him really
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knud_Bryn
his brother has even more peculiar look

Halfdan looks alpinized Atlantid to me

XenophobicPrussian
05-24-2020, 08:38 PM
not really a Tydal, since there is nothing cm about him really
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knud_Bryn
his brother has even more peculiar look

Halfdan looks alpinized Atlantid to me
I'd classify his brother as KN+Atlantid. He atleast had the long Nordic skull/face Bryn so admired.

https://storage.googleapis.com/snl-no-media/media/30061/standard_knud-bryn.jpg

https://dms-cf-05.dimu.org/image/03348xDoEj3u?dimension=1200x1200

Immanenz
05-24-2020, 08:39 PM
I agree he looks Norwegian. Tydal is just Alpinid with minor differences, and the irony is still there regardless because he would've disliked Tydals.

No Tydal = Paleo Atlantid, Strandid is Alpine version of the North, however i cant see both, he may be a Strandid- Nordid mix, but its hard to say, his brother Knud is even more interesting looking

of course all those old anthropologists were biased (its clear at least), thats why every thing needs to put into a context

Zeno
05-24-2020, 08:41 PM
He seems Baltid to me. It's indeed ironic he hated Alpinids. Didn't know that about his work. As for the political opinions part, it's fucking hilarious indeed.

XenophobicPrussian
05-24-2020, 08:42 PM
No Tydal = Paleo Atlantid, Strandid is Alpine version of the North, however i cant see both, he may be a Strandid- Nordid mix, but its hard to say, his brother Knud is even more interesting looking

of course all those old anthropologists were biased (its clear at least), thats why every thing needs to put into a context
Thanks for correcting me, I actually did literally get Tydal and Strandid mixed up. Yeah he's definitely not a Tydal lol.

Immanenz
05-24-2020, 08:43 PM
I'd classify his brother as KN+Atlantid. He atleast had the long Nordic skull/face Bryn so admired.

https://storage.googleapis.com/snl-no-media/media/30061/standard_knud-bryn.jpg

https://dms-cf-05.dimu.org/image/03348xDoEj3u?dimension=1200x1200

i m not sure, he looks like Western/ Eastern mix- he does not look NW in my eyes. He reminds me of Coons exotic Nordic Russian guy who was not a proper Nordid (like all of this exotic Nordids)

Awesomedy
05-24-2020, 08:54 PM
Keltic-Nordid

Immanenz
05-24-2020, 08:57 PM
they have distant german ancestry from mother side, maybe Jewish german ancestry
https://www.geni.com/people/Christine-Richter/6000000008742266280
https://lokalhistoriewiki.no/wiki/Christian_Boghart_Richter_(f._1620)

Peterski
05-24-2020, 09:09 PM
On Apricity this would be "Atlantid" not Alpine, LOL:

https://i.imgur.com/RVEw8Ou.jpg

Immanenz
05-24-2020, 09:15 PM
On Apricity this would be "Atlantid" not Alpine, LOL:

https://i.imgur.com/RVEw8Ou.jpg

yeah nowadays this would be Atlantid+Tydal, obv. Cm admix (atleast this would be my classification), but Alpine was used by many anthropologists to describe shorter skulled reduced Cm types, while most people will regard those "typical round/globular headed" fully alpinizied individuals as Alpine- so it depends which definition of Alpine you are using

The Blade
10-27-2020, 10:09 PM
Definitely alpinised. Sub-Nordid.

RN97
10-27-2020, 11:20 PM
Anyone who considers themselves unironically nazis should read Hans Gunthers work on racial anthropology. The pseudo science there is worse than the one modern day critical theory professors preach.