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Ion Basescul
05-25-2020, 11:27 AM
So, as some of you who follow me when I post the DNA results of me and my family noticed, I am consistently shifted towards Central Europe, as opposed to my parents. Additionally, I also score more East Asian than any of them.

All of my family is tested on MyHeritage and I'm on the old version of 23andme.

I speculated for a long time (https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?317309-Eurogenes-K13-SNP-Count) that this happens because my test looked at more SNPs than theirs. For example on K13, their results use 70k SNPs and mine 170k, so there's a gap of 100k SNPs that are not tested for them.

To fill those 100k missing SNPs, I found that DNA.LAND is able to deduce them from the data that is already present in the genome. This technique is called imputation (https://dna.land/impute-info).

Long story short, I did that for my family and now their results make more sense.


Gedrosia K3 overestimates the East Asian ancestry in absolute numbers, but it does a good job at comparing relatively against others, since it's got only 3 components.

Old results for mom

<tbody>
E_Eurasian
4.85 Pct


SSA
-


W_Eurasian
95.15 Pct

</tbody>

Old results for dad

<tbody>
E_Eurasian
3.73 Pct


SSA
-


W_Eurasian
96.27 Pct

</tbody>

Old results for brother

<tbody>
E_Eurasian
4.60 Pct


SSA
-


W_Eurasian
95.40 Pct

</tbody>

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New results for mom

<tbody>
E_Eurasian
6.97 Pct


SSA
0.72 Pct


W_Eurasian
92.31 Pct

</tbody>

New results for dad

<tbody>
E_Eurasian
6.02 Pct


SSA
0.52 Pct


W_Eurasian
93.46 Pct

</tbody>

New results for brother

<tbody>
E_Eurasian
6.24 Pct


SSA
0.24 Pct


W_Eurasian
93.52 Pct

</tbody>

My original 23andme v4 + LivingDNA results

<tbody>
E_Eurasian
6.30 Pct


SSA
0.38 Pct


W_Eurasian
93.33 Pct

</tbody>

I also imputed my results, but since my merged data has a ton of SNPs, they don't change much, so I prefer the lighter original.

<tbody>
E_Eurasian
6.31 Pct


SSA
0.45 Pct


W_Eurasian
93.24 Pct

</tbody>

No idea what's the deal with SSA, probably just Med/West Asian noise, considering that Southeast Europeans seem to score in that range in the spreadsheet.

Ion Basescul
05-25-2020, 11:47 AM
Eurogenes K13

The most interesting thing here is how their results now also shift towards Central Europe. The sum of their North Atlantic + Baltic is still the same, but now their Northern ancestry shifts from Baltic into North Atlantic, exactly like how it always was for me.

Old results for mom

<tbody>
North_Atlantic
19.44 Pct


Baltic
37.30 Pct


West_Med
15.60 Pct


West_Asian
10.04 Pct


East_Med
13.19 Pct


Red_Sea
0.47 Pct


South_Asian
0.95 Pct


East_Asian
1.49 Pct


Siberian
0.28 Pct


Amerindian
0.41 Pct


Oceanian
0.82 Pct


Northeast_African
-


Sub-Saharan
-

</tbody>

New results for mom

<tbody>
North_Atlantic
21.57 Pct


Baltic
34.87 Pct


West_Med
15.27 Pct


West_Asian
11.01 Pct


East_Med
11.72 Pct


Red_Sea
1.02 Pct


South_Asian
0.74 Pct


East_Asian
2.03 Pct


Siberian
1.44 Pct


Amerindian
0.21 Pct


Oceanian
0.13 Pct


Northeast_African
-


Sub-Saharan
-

</tbody>

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Old results for dad

<tbody>
North_Atlantic
24.14 Pct


Baltic
32.44 Pct


West_Med
14.55 Pct


West_Asian
11.75 Pct


East_Med
12.15 Pct


Red_Sea
-


South_Asian
1.62 Pct


East_Asian
-


Siberian
1.54 Pct


Amerindian
0.96 Pct


Oceanian
-


Northeast_African
0.33 Pct


Sub-Saharan
0.51 Pct

</tbody>

New results for dad

<tbody>
North_Atlantic
25.29 Pct


Baltic
31.05 Pct


West_Med
13.37 Pct


West_Asian
12.25 Pct


East_Med
11.53 Pct


Red_Sea
0.22 Pct


South_Asian
1.90 Pct


East_Asian
-


Siberian
2.14 Pct


Amerindian
0.95 Pct


Oceanian
0.07 Pct


Northeast_African
0.92 Pct


Sub-Saharan
0.30 Pct

</tbody>

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Old results for brother

<tbody>
North_Atlantic
19.94 Pct


Baltic
33.13 Pct


West_Med
16.31 Pct


West_Asian
12.10 Pct


East_Med
12.62 Pct


Red_Sea
0.64 Pct


South_Asian
2.02 Pct


East_Asian
1.01 Pct


Siberian
0.99 Pct


Amerindian
0.62 Pct


Oceanian
0.60 Pct


Northeast_African
-


Sub-Saharan
-

</tbody>

New results for brother

<tbody>
North_Atlantic
22.13 Pct


Baltic
31.56 Pct


West_Med
14.60 Pct


West_Asian
13.20 Pct


East_Med
12.21 Pct


Red_Sea
1.50 Pct


South_Asian
1.35 Pct


East_Asian
0.93 Pct


Siberian
2.16 Pct


Amerindian
-


Oceanian
0.26 Pct


Northeast_African
0.08 Pct


Sub-Saharan
-

</tbody>

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My 23andme v4 + LivingDNA results

<tbody>
North_Atlantic
25.27 Pct


Baltic
29.33 Pct


West_Med
15.21 Pct


West_Asian
9.95 Pct


East_Med
13.04 Pct


Red_Sea
1.42 Pct


South_Asian
0.70 Pct


East_Asian
1.83 Pct


Siberian
2.85 Pct


Amerindian
-


Oceanian
0.40 Pct


Northeast_African
-


Sub-Saharan
-

</tbody>

Out of curiosity, my imputed results, which show how imputation doesn't change anything for me really.
This is yet another proof on how superior the old version of 23andme was compared to the new tests from 23andme, MyHeritage, Ancestry, etc.

<tbody>
North_Atlantic
25.04 Pct


Baltic
29.46 Pct


West_Med
14.93 Pct


West_Asian
10.09 Pct


East_Med
13.25 Pct


Red_Sea
1.36 Pct


South_Asian
0.72 Pct


East_Asian
2.02 Pct


Siberian
2.64 Pct


Amerindian
-


Oceanian
0.36 Pct


Northeast_African
0.06 Pct


Sub-Saharan
0.06 Pct

</tbody>