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Storm
09-01-2011, 01:29 AM
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d0/Flag_of_Tajikistan.svg/22px-Flag_of_Tajikistan.svg.png


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Storm
09-01-2011, 01:29 AM
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Storm
09-01-2011, 01:31 AM
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leisitox
09-01-2011, 01:39 AM
Loots of light eyes people...

Seeker
09-01-2011, 01:30 PM
Loots of light eyes people...

Yeah, and the tendency is towards green-hazel colour, actually only green-hazel.

leisitox
09-01-2011, 01:34 PM
I think im hazel eyed, now I can be Tajik :D?

Seeker
09-01-2011, 01:35 PM
I think im hazel eyed, now I can be Tajik :D?

lal

sure why not

heyaitsme
09-01-2011, 01:36 PM
I think that.. the Tajiks are a group in Afghanistan where most have blue eyes and blonde hair.

leisitox
09-01-2011, 01:43 PM
The third kid in the first pictures can pass for european and the first from left in the third row can pass for balkanic maybe as a dinaric-alpine.
The others for me cannot pass.

StonyArabia
09-03-2011, 02:10 AM
I think that.. the Tajiks are a group in Afghanistan where most have blue eyes and blonde hair.

Nope that would be the Nurstani people whom are basically the same people as the infamous Kalash of Northwestern Pakistan. The Kalash kept to their pagan traditions to this day, well the Nurstani became Sunni Muslims originally their lands were known as Kafirstan which means Land of the pagans. The Tajiks are Iranic people with Turkic influences, well the Nurstani and Kalash are Dardic peoples with minor Dravidian influences.

Han Cholo
09-03-2011, 02:14 AM
Tajiks look very different from Iranians and Pashtuns. I'm surprised. Though some people overlap a lot.

This man looks almost Slavic
http://b.imagehost.org/0304/t16.jpg

This one looks Pakistani:
http://d.imagehost.org/0133/t22.jpg

This one looks very unique:
http://d.imagehost.org/0877/t19.jpg

And this one looks from Caucasus:
http://d.imagehost.org/0168/t28.jpg

StonyArabia
09-03-2011, 02:15 AM
Tajiks look very different from Iranians and Pashtuns. I'm surprised. Though some people overlap a lot.

They are heavily mixed with Turkic people. Tajik means Persian speaker, well Tork was used for a Turkic speaker, however eventually many of the Turkic people adopted Persian and the Tajik identity hence the difference between them and their Iranic cousins.

Óttar
09-03-2011, 02:26 AM
The Kalash kept to their pagan traditions to this day
Unfortunately there are only ~ 3,000 left. :(

StonyArabia
09-03-2011, 02:29 AM
Unfortunately there are only ~ 3,000 left. :(

Indeed. As well they can't intermarry with their other relatives because they chose to convert to Islam, so this small community number has made them be redueced.

Storm
09-03-2011, 05:58 PM
Some people had complained to me in the past about the number of blue eyes represented in our Tajik thread. Not my fault actually, numerous photographers traveling into Tajikistan must find that interesting.

Agrippa
09-03-2011, 06:42 PM
The Pamirid type is totally dominant, but one can see Orientalid (Iranid and Arabid), Nordoid as well as Mongoloid influences.

WilliamWallace
09-04-2011, 01:17 PM
the persons in the photos are absolutely not representative, they're surely mixed with western Russians.
Real Tajiks are central Asians, they have not light eyes.
in plain words they are those people we see on tv news from Afghanistan...
and many have also slanted eyes.

examples:


http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c5/Celebrating_Eid_in_Tajikistan_10-13-2007.jpg/400px-Celebrating_Eid_in_Tajikistan_10-13-2007.jpg

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/55/Old_bearded_man_from_Tajikistan.jpg/400px-Old_bearded_man_from_Tajikistan.jpg

http://www.iranian.com/main/files/singlepage_images/tajik.jpg

http://rt.com/files/politics/tajikistan-polio-comments-zhirinovsky/tadjikistan.n.jpg

Libertas
09-04-2011, 01:27 PM
Stop trolling.
As Muslims, Tajiks would rarely mix with Christian Russians.

Tajiks are mainly local Alpines (Pamirid if you will) mixed with other elements as Agrippa wrote but with only a slight Mongoloid strain.

Agrippa
09-04-2011, 01:27 PM
The last woman is pred. Mongoloid.

The Tajiks from above were almost all Pamirid, many textbook examples. Tajiks are as much Pamirid as Swedes are Nordeuropid or Bosniaks Dinarid, so what do you want to say here?

Those were typical settled Southern Central Asian Iranians, that's what Tajiks are.

The last woman looks too Mongoloid for an Uzbek and if being Tajik, she would be a rare case of strong Mongoloid admixture in a family...

I don't know what's your point.

Onychodus
09-04-2011, 01:37 PM
light tajiks can be descendents of these people
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andronovo_culture

WilliamWallace
09-04-2011, 01:38 PM
These are the Tajiks
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tajik_people

http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Tajiks

Libertas
09-04-2011, 01:41 PM
Those are a minority of Tajiks you mean.

WilliamWallace
09-04-2011, 01:46 PM
no, those are the Tajiks, there is not written that they are a minority.

Why are you convinced that in central Asia live people with light eyes and scandinavian look?
It sounds like that senseless nazi theory that brought to the Pamir bunches of scientists to find the Arians.

Libertas
09-04-2011, 01:51 PM
Who wrote that Tajiks were of Scandinavian aspect?
They are mainly Caucasoid, of Alpine (Pamirid) subtype.
The Nazi scientists went to Tibet not the Pamir mountains.

WilliamWallace
09-04-2011, 01:54 PM
Who wrote that Tajiks were of Scandinavian aspect?
They are mainly Caucasoid, of Alpine (Pamirid) subtype.
The Nazi scientists went to Tibet not the Pamir mountains.


-Read the posts in the other page.


-they went also in Pamir area.

Libertas
09-04-2011, 01:56 PM
I think you should read Coon's section on the Tajiks in "Races of Europe".

Your posts are more remarkable for heat than light I'm afraid.

WilliamWallace
09-04-2011, 02:06 PM
I' ve simply posted the link of the wikipedia page about Tajik people.

Agrippa
09-04-2011, 02:24 PM
The woman shown looks like the examples at the start of the thread and the president is untypical.

That is like saying that all Danish people look like the former black heard guy which looks not really that strange for a Dane, but is hardly TYPICAL.

The Pamirid variants from the start of the thread ARE typical.

Probably they have a higher frequency of light eyes, I don't know whether they being cherry picked because of that, but in the end, light eyes being noted there and they don't really matter anyway, because other traits are far more important and morphologically, they are largely Pamirid with Iranid, Alpinoid etc. tendencies, exactly like all of the reknown anthropologists claimed.

Basil
09-04-2011, 03:13 PM
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Agrippa
09-04-2011, 03:31 PM
Where are they from? Some of them look more like Uzbeks or other more mixed people...

qwerty7
09-04-2011, 04:06 PM
real Tajiks
http://news.fergananews.com/photos/2006_12/fer.jpg

http://www.openspace.ru/m/photo/2010/09/27/001bdfl_500.jpg

Basil
09-04-2011, 04:44 PM
Where are they from? Some of them look more like Uzbeks or other more mixed people...
Some Tajiks look like Uzbeks and vice versa. Do you think you could always tell them apart? From my perspective the people in the pics I posted are rather typical. A majority of Tajiks live in the plains and valleys and are no that different from neighbouring Uzbeks. I don't know why on anthroboards someone usually posts relict highlanders as if they constitute a group significant in numbers or even majority.

WilliamWallace
09-04-2011, 04:56 PM
Now I' m confused. How do they look exactly the Tajiks? I' m speaking of the Tajik race, not of the many ethnicities who have settled in Tajikistan.
Do people with slanted eyes Tajiks?

qwerty7
09-04-2011, 05:35 PM
Now I' m confused. How do they look exactly the Tajiks? I' m speaking of the Tajik race, not of the many ethnicities who have settled in Tajikistan.
Do people with slanted eyes Tajiks?

miting in Dushanbe(capital of Tadjikistan)
http://news.fergananews.com/photos/2007_03/dush.jpg

Agrippa
09-04-2011, 05:43 PM
Some Tajiks look like Uzbeks and vice versa. Do you think you could always tell them apart? From my perspective the people in the pics I posted are rather typical. A majority of Tajiks live in the plains and valleys and are no that different from neighbouring Uzbeks. I don't know why on anthroboards someone usually posts relict highlanders as if they constitute a group significant in numbers or even majority.

Individually? Only probabilities.

In groups? Not with absolute, but relative high certainty.

There are Tajik minorities in Uzbekistan and vice versa.


although there is a sizable minority of Uzbeks

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tajikistan#Demographics

The differences between Tajiks and Uzbeks are, on average, in any case significantly greater, since major races being involved as a distinctive element, than the differences between most European people.


Now I' m confused. How do they look exactly the Tajiks? I' m speaking of the Tajik race, not of the many ethnicities who have settled in Tajikistan.
Do people with slanted eyes Tajiks?

The direct genetic and especially phenotypical Mongoloid influence in Uzbeks is significantly higher than in Tajiks.

However, it is right that there are more pure and more mixed Tajiks as well and they being different regionally too.

Here some Uzbeks from I. Schwidetzky's study about the Turanid race, the one from above is Pamirid, note how he looks like a lot of the Tajiks posted in the thread starting post, the one at the bottom has significant Mongoloid, that is more common in Uzbeks than Tajiks:
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=14568&stc=1&d=1315157991

Of course they overlap, but Uzbeks are just way more Mongoloid influenced.

Treffie
09-04-2011, 05:49 PM
I'd like to know how we can tell if they're ethnically Tadzhik or if they're mixed? I tend to agree with WillWall that Tadzhiks are pred dark eyed with a minority with light eyes. Fascinating people though. :thumb001:

Agrippa
09-04-2011, 05:58 PM
I'd like to know how we can tell if they're ethnically Tadzhik or if they're mixed? I tend to agree with WillWall that Tadzhiks are pred dark eyed with a minority with light eyes. Fascinating people though. :thumb001:

Tajiks are mostly Pamirid, Uzbeks have stronger Mongoloid influences, as well as more Orientalid tendencies.

Neanderthal
09-04-2011, 06:01 PM
I see plenty Irano-Nordoids, so they aren't a myth after all...

Basil
09-04-2011, 06:16 PM
Tajiks are mostly Pamirid, Uzbeks have stronger Mongoloid influences, as well as more Orientalid tendencies.
Yes, Uzbeks are more mongoloid on average. But the plain Tajiks have this kind of admixture too. That's my point.
No one in my pics looks predominantly mongoloid though or at least mongoloid to the point when it could be stated they are more likely not Tajiks. Sorry, if they aren't that progressive as expected.

Saruman
09-04-2011, 06:24 PM
Sorry, if they aren't that progressive as expected.

You are wrong to imply that Mongoloids can't be progressive.


Japanese
http://yanajun.com/wp-content/uploads/abe04.jpg

Chinese
http://www.hiddengarments.cn/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/liu-xiang-e58898e7bf94-nike-liu-xiang-e58898e7bf94-nike.jpg

Very progressive ^^;)

Though yes, in central Asia it was not as progressive Tungids who spread their genes more.

Mordid
09-04-2011, 06:28 PM
You are wrong to imply that Mongoloids can't be progressive.


Japanese
http://yanajun.com/wp-content/uploads/abe04.jpg

Chinese
http://www.hiddengarments.cn/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/liu-xiang-e58898e7bf94-nike-liu-xiang-e58898e7bf94-nike.jpg

Very progressive ^^;)

Though yes, in central Asia it was not as progressive Tungids who spread their genes more.
That's interesting. Consider Tajikistan is more Western than China and Japan, they have to be more Caucasianiform/progessive than Japanese and Chinese people.

Basil
09-04-2011, 06:28 PM
Tajik youth camp
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_9CxJN1n_uBM/TOeQvGneEBI/AAAAAAAAAF0/TzlzPlXnGoU/s1600/P1070933.JPG

Saruman
09-04-2011, 06:36 PM
That's interesting. Consider Tajikistan is more Western than China and Japan, they have to be more Caucasianiform/progessive than Japanese and Chinese people.

http://www.theapricity.com/snpa/bilder/gl-tungid.jpg
Not really, Tungids are highly adapted to cold climate (extreme Mongoloid features), as you move further East that climate once again becomes more similar to the one in which progressive Europids evolved so Mongoloid types become more progressive as well, namely Nord-Sinids (Liu Xiang on that photo) and Yakonids (Hiroshi Abe) who are more Europiform than Nordsinids due to Ainuid (so some would say Proto-Europid) influences.

Redar14
11-23-2011, 03:56 PM
For me Tajiks are mongloloid-mediterranean hybrid. Probably Before Turic-Monglolian expansion they were Pontid/Iranian-Nordid race just like other ancient iranian tribes.

Redar14
11-23-2011, 06:34 PM
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d0/Flag_of_Tajikistan.svg/22px-Flag_of_Tajikistan.svg.png


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I think they come from Afghanistan, Tajiks from Tajikistan have noticeable mongoloid admixture.

Olika
11-23-2011, 07:06 PM
http://www.foto.kob.tj/_ph/1/2/975641013.jpg
http://tj.moy.su/_ph/4/2/925319765.jpg
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http://cs9572.vkontakte.ru/u141475193/-6/z_320abf36.jpg

Redar14
12-03-2011, 08:47 AM
http://pastmist.files.wordpress.com/2009/02/blondtajikboy.jpg
http://globetrotter.berkeley.edu/people3/Huddle/images/TajikGirl2.jpg
http://www.afghanasamai.com/Dscutions-poleticalcullture/Hamkaran/sabur-siyasang/archiv/Saboor%202008.JPG
http://images.china.cn/images1/200508/182431.jpg
http://centralasia.imb.org/pray/images/Tajik1.jpg
http://www.globalenvision.org/files/tajik%20woman%20and%20baby.jpg
http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTWV4b2FJgsGbFxj-w9MyHd9moNx8zb3FHZTMrA3IWZGbGcNwl9_-w32eCN
http://tajik.info/gallery/images/ishkashim%20(12).jpg
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5209/5327466687_c3d2d2d170.jpg
http://farm1.staticflickr.com/56/147510385_b1dfeef7bf_z.jpg?zz=1

Nairi
12-03-2011, 09:15 AM
Have you ever talked to Tajiks?
Tajiks are and recognise themselves as Iranic people, they are in fight with their Turkic origin neighbours Uzbeks. Recently Uzbeks killed and deported lots of Tajiks from Uzbekistan. If you want to insult Tajik call him a Turk or anything of Turkic origin.

Siberyak
12-03-2011, 09:22 AM
All I know about Tajiks is that they are a favorite target for Skinheads on the streets of Moscow.

Redar14
12-03-2011, 06:41 PM
Have you ever talked to Tajiks?
Tajiks are and recognise themselves as Iranic people, they are in fight with their Turkic origin neighbours Uzbeks. Recently Uzbeks killed and deported lots of Tajiks from Uzbekistan. If you want to insult Tajik call him a Turk or anything of Turkic origin.

That's right. A lot of Tajiks live in Eastern Uzbekistan and Afghanistan. Basically Pashtuns and Uzbeks hate Tajiks but in my personal opinion Sarkamanda and Bukhara should belongs to Tajikistan.

Nairi
12-04-2011, 03:06 AM
That's right. A lot of Tajiks live in Eastern Uzbekistan and Afghanistan. Basically Pashtuns and Uzbeks hate Tajiks but in my personal opinion Sarkamanda and Bukhara should belongs to Tajikistan.

Anyone who is against Turkic desire of creating Turan (world for Turks) should have everyone's support. Our ancestors couldn't believe that mighty Byzantine Empire would fall and Ottomans would reach Europe, Turkey is trying very hard to revive OE now, but it seems we also (like our ancesots) can't believe in second OE now.

Look at current Turkish policy in Middle East at gaining all Muslims support and becoming a regional Islamic leader among them.

Padre Organtino
12-04-2011, 08:16 PM
I for one do not care about Tajikistan's claims. At least until it stops being Colombia of Central Asia. Another thing to note is that Russians, Tatars and many other non-natives were brutally opressed by Tajiks and driven out of the country.

WilliamWallace
12-04-2011, 08:58 PM
I' ve searched photos and videos of people who live in Tajikistan, and nobody look like the persons in the 1st page photos.
On the contrary they look exactly as the other central Asians.

But probably some people continue to be influenced by the well known rubbish written by Coon.

Redar14
12-04-2011, 10:31 PM
I' ve searched photos and videos of people who live in Tajikistan, and nobody look like the persons in the 1st page photos.
On the contrary they look exactly as the other central Asians.

But probably some people continue to be influenced by the well known rubbish written by Coon.

Tajiks are Mediterranean-mongoloid mix but sometimes they are pure Caucasoid. Tajiks from Afghanistan are very similar to Pashtuns. In my personal opinion eastern-iranians are completly different than pure mongoloid Kazakhs. You should remember that most Tajiks and Uighurs have typical european haplogroups R1a and R1b.

Olika
12-05-2011, 11:14 AM
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Hexane
01-11-2012, 08:27 AM
Actress Stalina Azamatova (cool name) , quite beautiful

http://raremarket.ru/sites/default/files/imagecache/product_full/59/aktery_kino-18.jpg

http://www.kino-teatr.ru/acter/album/63/277401.jpg

MagnaLaurentia
01-11-2012, 11:04 AM
Near Dushanbe :

http://sionroulait.blogs.marieclaire.fr/media/00/01/fb7ed9a0cb43d8d47632336c1c026f01.jpg

http://sionroulait.blogs.marieclaire.fr/media/02/02/a33368996b814a9c29a03646327f566e.jpg

http://sionroulait.blogs.marieclaire.fr/media/01/02/6c459935ed9440689f13cc681d2cdb2f.jpg

Rereg
03-22-2012, 01:32 PM
I for one do not care about Tajikistan's claims. At least until it stops being Colombia of Central Asia. Another thing to note is that Russians, Tatars and many other non-natives were brutally opressed by Tajiks and driven out of the country.

It's true but during soviet era Russians always had favored Uzbeks, later Tajiks made revenge.

Rereg
03-31-2012, 02:47 PM
http://homepage.mac.com/pkk/blog/730/11.jpg
http://i.pbase.com/o2/94/60194/1/128129575.5eus1BZ5.SDIM0499.jpg
http://www.farwestchina.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/Tajik.jpg
http://www.oil-painting-online.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/jin-shangyi-oil-painting.jpg
http://en.chinaxinjiang.cn/11/16/7/201008/W020100824552627278627.jpg
http://28.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m0mdwpZyZN1qlsr3bo1_500.jpg
http://www.ridehimalaya.com/blog_pix/xin18.jpg
http://iwebask.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/tajik-shopkeper-portrait_37891_600x450.jpg
http://www.xj.xinhua.org/2007-11/27/xin_1331104271238781106262.jpg
http://ethnicinchinese.files.wordpress.com/2011/08/1219.jpg
http://cdn.c.photoshelter.com/img-get/I0000cjh4R_LM6UI/s/750/750/100906-TK5D-0802.jpg
http://www.demotix.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/large_610x456_scaled/photos/184835.jpg
http://images.china.cn/attachement/jpg/site1007/20120320/0019b91ec74f10d27ebe02.jpg

Proto-Shaman
01-15-2013, 04:36 PM
They are mainly Caucasoid, of Alpine (Pamirid) subtype.
This is not exactly right.

"Tajik are physically from the Mediterranean substock."

Source: Federal Research Division of the Library of Congress (1997). "Afghanistan: Tajik (http://www.country-data.com/cgi-bin/query/r-39.html)". Country Studies Series. Library of Congress. Retrieved 2007-12-19.

Tajiks are predominantly dark eyed with a minority with light eyes. They are mongloloid-mediterranean hybrid. Fascinating people though.

Sky earth
01-15-2013, 06:25 PM
This is not exactly right.

"Tajik are physically from the Mediterranean substock."

Source: Federal Research Division of the Library of Congress (1997). "Afghanistan: Tajik (http://www.country-data.com/cgi-bin/query/r-39.html)". Country Studies Series. Library of Congress. Retrieved 2007-12-19.

Tajiks are predominantly dark eyed with a minority with light eyes. They are mongloloid-mediterranean hybrid. Fascinating people though.

I would not be so sure with that. Tajiks are 22% northern european
In autosomal dna the highest of all central asians but they also have the highest south asian dna from all central asians before turkmens

Proto-Shaman
01-15-2013, 06:32 PM
I would not be so sure with that. Tajiks are 22% northern european
In autosomal dna the highest of all central asians but they also have the highest south asian dna from all central asians before turkmens
I think its sure enough, since the source is also used at Wikipedia about the Tajiks (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tajik_people#Physical_characteristics):

"On the whole, Tajiks are a genetically diverse population, displaying a wide range of phenotypes."

I am not sure about the Tajik autosomal dna, since Kyrgystan was not mentioned in this list (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0ArJDEoCgzRKedGdRbkxKMDdlZkJWc21tdkpldWxwV mc#gid=0). Mentioned are only following regions:
http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/8557/20762547.jpg

I bet that the Kyrgyz northern European autosomal dna should at least have the same ratio as Tajiks do or even more, since the Central Kyrgyzstan Kyrgyz with 63.5% have morre R1a frequencies as Tajiks do:
http://rugiland.narod2.ru/R1a/R1a1.jpg

As far as I know the north European component is tied to R1a, which is why Tajiks and other Turkic Peoples have a lot of this component. R1a1a-(R-M17 or R-M198)-Frequencies are relatively lower (16 to 25%) among the Dushanbe Tajiks,Samarkand Tajiks, Yaghnobis and Shughnis, which indicates that the Kyrgyz settled regions in Tajikistan should have more Northern European autosomal dna then those Tajiks from the south of Tajikistan. The high ratio of R1a in Northern Afghanistan could indeed be attributed to the Pathans (51.02%), Tajiks (30.36%) and Turkic peoples (Uzbeks (17.65%), Turkmen, Kyrgyz, Hazara (6.67%)) living there.

Also have a short look at the List_of_R-M420_frequency_by_population (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_R-M420_frequency_by_population):
Noticable is that R1a in Khujand (64%), Dushanbe (19.0%) & Panjakent (64%) are not Tajiks as shown in the list above, but rather Uzbeks:
http://www.reisenett.no/map_collection/commonwealth/SSoviet_Ethnic_86.jpghttp://www.gl.iit.edu/govdocs/maps/Major%20Ethnic%20Groups%20in%20Tajikistan.gif
Remarkably Dushanbe in the 2nd map is shown as Russian an Tajik inhabited.

Interestingly: "One potentially important observation here is that among the groups to most closely match the Shetland participants are the Khirgiz (Kirghizes), who are called Ases (with As being common as a Turkic ethnic or geographical name), the term given by Icelandic Sagas to the ancestors of the Scandinavian Royalty." (http://www.davidkfaux.org/CentralAsiaRootsofScandinavia-Y-DNAEvidence.pdf)

In this case I think it has less to do with the so called Northern European (Finland & Baltikum) autosomal dna, but rather with the Northwest European.