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Peterski
05-26-2020, 06:07 PM
Do we have any Lebanese Druze members?

PaleoEuropean
05-26-2020, 06:09 PM
I don't think we have any Druze members, all Arabs, NA, Kurds and Iranians.

Peterski
05-26-2020, 06:18 PM
I don't think we have any Druze members, all Arabs, NA, Kurds and Iranians.

I'm interested how do Lebanese Druze score on GEDmatch.

PaleoEuropean
05-26-2020, 06:29 PM
I'm interested how do Lebanese Druze score on GEDmatch.

Would be interesting to see actual results rather than just reading about them.

PaleoEuropean
05-26-2020, 06:31 PM
Maybe someone from Israel/Palestine could help. I would pm them.

Eline
05-26-2020, 06:47 PM
From here: https://anthrogenica.com/showthread.php?7958-GEDmatch-result-of-a-Lebanese-Druze


PuntDNA-L K12:

# Population Percent
1 Anatolian_NF 39.91
2 Caucasus_HG 29.02
3 Near_East 20.26
4 European_HG 4.57
5 South_Asian 1.85
6 Amerindian 1.35
7 Oceanian 1.25
8 South_African_HG 1.1
9 East_Asian 0.4
10 Beringian 0.29

Single Population Sharing:


# Population (source) Distance
1 Cypriot 5.57
2 Lebanese 8.38
3 Druze 9.08
4 Tunisian_Jew 9.54
5 Moroccan_Jew 10.69
6 Libyan_Jew 10.76
7 Turkish_Jew 10.88
8 Syrian 11.25
9 Palestinian 11.55
10 Assyrian 12.2
11 Sicilian_East 12.54
12 Jordanian 12.75
13 Iraqi_Jew 13.14
14 Ashkenazi_Jew 13.46
15 Iranian_Jew 14.31
16 Sicilian_West 14.32
17 BedouinA 15.05
18 Turkish_Kayseri 15.64
19 Turkish 17.37
20 Armenian 18

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:


# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 56.6% Tunisian_Jew + 43.4% Assyrian @ 2.79
2 69% Tunisian_Jew + 31% Turkish_Trabzon @ 3
3 68.7% Tunisian_Jew + 31.3% Laz @ 3
4 66.2% Tunisian_Jew + 33.8% Armenian @ 3.05
5 60.8% Tunisian_Jew + 39.2% Iranian_Jew @ 3.12
6 79% Tunisian_Jew + 21% Abkhasian @ 3.13
7 63% Tunisian_Jew + 37% Turkish_Kayseri @ 3.2
8 66.8% Tunisian_Jew + 33.2% Georgian_Jew @ 3.22
9 57.6% Libyan_Jew + 42.4% Iranian_Jew @ 3.29
10 55.1% Turkish_Jew + 44.9% Iraqi_Jew @ 3.39
11 77% Tunisian_Jew + 23% Georgian @ 3.42
12 68.4% Tunisian_Jew + 31.6% Kurdish @ 3.43
13 71.5% Tunisian_Jew + 28.5% Iranian @ 3.46
14 53.5% Libyan_Jew + 46.5% Assyrian @ 3.46
15 78.4% Tunisian_Jew + 21.6% North_Ossetian @ 3.67
16 54.9% Druze + 45.1% Libyan_Jew @ 3.72
17 55.7% Moroccan_Jew + 44.3% Iraqi_Jew @ 3.77
18 64.1% Libyan_Jew + 35.9% Georgian_Jew @ 3.77
19 51.5% Druze + 48.5% Tunisian_Jew @ 3.79
20 55.3% Druze + 44.7% Turkish_Jew @ 3.91



Gedrosia K15:

# Population Percent
1 SW_Asian 27.34
2 Caucuses 25.97
3 EEF 25.45
4 Burusho 5.89
5 WHG 5.21
6 E_African 4.77
7 Balochi 2.95
8 Paniya 1.19
9 Kalash 0.86
10 Onge 0.37
11 NE_Indian_Tribal 0.01

Single Population Sharing:


# Population (source) Distance
1 Cypriot 10.24
2 Ashkenazi_Jew 11.32
3 Sicilian 13.87
4 Lebanese 14.37
5 Turkish 17.66
6 Assyrian 17.71
7 Jordanian 18.47
8 Iraqi_Jew 19.7
9 Iranian_Jew 20.51
10 Greek 21.4
11 Syrian 21.79
12 Kurd_N 22.52
13 Kurd_C 22.76
14 Georgian_Jew 23.18
15 Iranian 23.5
16 Albanian 23.64
17 Armenian 25.59
18 BedouinA 25.65
19 Palestinian 26.97
20 Bergamo 30.12

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:


# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 69.4% Lebanese + 30.6% Bergamo @ 6.16
2 51.1% Sicilian + 48.9% Lebanese @ 6.32
3 85.7% Cypriot + 14.3% French_South @ 6.98
4 82.7% Cypriot + 17.3% Spanish @ 7.02
5 79.7% Cypriot + 20.3% Bergamo @ 7.03
6 61.9% Cypriot + 38.1% Sicilian @ 7.18
7 58.9% Sicilian + 41.1% Jordanian @ 7.2
8 54.7% Cypriot + 45.3% Ashkenazi_Jew @ 7.35
9 78.4% Lebanese + 21.6% French_South @ 7.39
10 64.6% Lebanese + 35.4% Albanian @ 7.4
11 59% Ashkenazi_Jew + 41% Lebanese @ 7.46
12 85.5% Cypriot + 14.5% French @ 7.47
13 78.1% Iranian_Jew + 21.9% Sardinian @ 7.53
14 89.7% Cypriot + 10.3% Burusho @ 7.56
15 76.7% Cypriot + 23.3% Albanian @ 7.66
16 74.6% Lebanese + 25.4% Spanish @ 7.74
17 71.2% Iraqi_Jew + 28.8% French_South @ 7.74
18 87.5% Cypriot + 12.5% English @ 7.83
19 66.2% Ashkenazi_Jew + 33.8% Assyrian @ 7.92
20 61.7% Iraqi_Jew + 38.3% Bergamo @ 7.92



Near East K13:

# Population Percent
1 NATUFIAN 24.6
2 IRAN_NEOLITHIC 24.52
3 CHG_EEF 24.03
4 ANATOLIA_NEOLITHIC 21.55
5 SHG_WHG 1.68
6 SE_ASIAN 1.65
7 SIBERIAN 0.87
8 KARITIANA 0.57
9 ANCESTRAL_INDIAN 0.54

Single Population Sharing:


# Population (source) Distance
1 Cypriot 4.8
2 Lebanese 7.15
3 Druze 8.73
4 Jew_Moroccan 9.53
5 Jew_iraqi 9.86
6 Jew_Tunisian 10.13
7 Jew_Libyan 11.1
8 Jordanian 11.43
9 Syrian 11.58
10 Jew_Iranian 12.46
11 Turkish_Adana 12.6
12 Turkish_Kayseri 12.84
13 Palestinian 13.23
14 Assyrian 13.24
15 Armenian 14.41
16 Turkish_Trabzon 14.6
17 Jew_Ashkenazi 16.7
18 Turkish 16.93
19 BedouinA 17.25
20 Azeri 17.62

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:


# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 89.2% Druze + 10.8% Europe_EN @ 2.02
2 84.3% Druze + 15.7% Stuttgart @ 2.42
3 90.3% Druze + 9.7% Anatolia_N @ 2.47
4 77% Turkish_Trabzon + 23% Levant_N @ 2.65
5 88.1% Druze + 11.9% Europe_MNChL @ 2.86
6 90.9% Cypriot + 9.1% Levant_BA @ 3.19
7 68.4% Georgian + 31.6% Levant_N @ 3.25
8 79.4% Jew_iraqi + 20.6% Sardinian @ 3.52
9 88.5% Cypriot + 11.5% Jew_Yemenite @ 3.6
10 84.6% Jew_Tunisian + 15.4% Iran_ChL @ 3.74
11 75.2% Cypriot + 24.8% Jew_iraqi @ 3.74
12 77.6% Armenian + 22.4% Levant_N @ 3.79
13 81.3% Cypriot + 18.7% Palestinian @ 3.82
14 90% Cypriot + 10% Saudi @ 3.9
15 83.3% Jew_iraqi + 16.7% Stuttgart @ 3.97
16 90.8% Cypriot + 9.2% Yemeni @ 4.03
17 69.3% Cypriot + 30.7% Lebanese @ 4.03
18 94.8% Cypriot + 5.2% Levant_N @ 4.03
19 80.9% Cypriot + 19.1% Jordanian @ 4.09
20 93.8% Cypriot + 6.2% Iran_recent @ 4.12



Eurogenes K15:

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 46.59
2 West_Asian 18.47
3 West_Med 14.98
4 Red_Sea 10.12
5 Atlantic 3.8
6 North_Sea 2.98
7 Northeast_African 1.82
8 Southeast_Asian 0.86
9 South_Asian 0.36
10 Eastern_Euro 0.03

Single Population Sharing:


# Population (source) Distance
1 Lebanese_Christian 4.54
2 Samaritan 4.71
3 Cyprian 7.43
4 Lebanese_Druze 7.59
5 Lebanese_Muslim 8.78
6 Palestinian 10.02
7 Syrian 10.09
8 Jordanian 11.27
9 Kurdish_Jewish 11.6
10 Tunisian_Jewish 12.01
11 Libyan_Jewish 12.02
12 Iranian_Jewish 13.2
13 Assyrian 14.61
14 Sephardic_Jewish 14.86
15 Algerian_Jewish 15.21
16 Italian_Jewish 15.38
17 Bedouin 16.34
18 Georgian_Jewish 18.65
19 South_Italian 19.01
20 Egyptian 20.29

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:


# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 92.7% Lebanese_Christian + 7.3% Sardinian @ 2.86
2 78.3% Lebanese_Christian + 21.7% Libyan_Jewish @ 3.2
3 82.5% Lebanese_Christian + 17.5% Algerian_Jewish @ 3.26
4 82.8% Lebanese_Christian + 17.2% Italian_Jewish @ 3.3
5 80.5% Lebanese_Christian + 19.5% Tunisian_Jewish @ 3.58
6 87.3% Lebanese_Christian + 12.7% South_Italian @ 3.63
7 70.7% Lebanese_Christian + 29.3% Cyprian @ 3.66
8 94.1% Lebanese_Christian + 5.9% Spanish_Andalucia @ 3.67
9 89.9% Lebanese_Christian + 10.1% West_Sicilian @ 3.68
10 94.2% Lebanese_Christian + 5.8% Spanish_Murcia @ 3.68
11 94.2% Lebanese_Christian + 5.8% Portuguese @ 3.69
12 93.2% Lebanese_Christian + 6.8% North_Italian @ 3.69
13 94.8% Lebanese_Christian + 5.2% Spanish_Cantabria @ 3.7
14 94.7% Lebanese_Christian + 5.3% Spanish_Aragon @ 3.7
15 84.7% Lebanese_Christian + 15.3% Sephardic_Jewish @ 3.71
16 94.5% Lebanese_Christian + 5.5% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 3.71
17 94.5% Lebanese_Christian + 5.5% Spanish_Valencia @ 3.72
18 94.3% Lebanese_Christian + 5.7% Spanish_Extremadura @ 3.72
19 92% Lebanese_Christian + 8% Tuscan @ 3.73
20 94.4% Lebanese_Christian + 5.6% Spanish_Galicia @ 3.73



Dodecad K12:

# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 44.36
2 Southwest_Asian 22.65
3 Atlantic_Med 17.31
4 Gedrosia 10.43
5 Northwest_African 3.88
6 Southeast_Asian 0.62
7 East_African 0.6
8 South_Asian 0.17

Single Population Sharing:


# Population (source) Distance
1 Druze (HGDP) 6.77
2 Lebanese (Behar) 7.21
3 Cypriots (Behar) 9.42
4 Syrians (Behar) 10.17
5 Iraq_Jews (Behar) 10.66
6 Jordanians (Behar) 11.21
7 Palestinian (HGDP) 12.79
8 Samaritians (Behar) 13.13
9 Iranian_Jews (Behar) 13.35
10 Assyrian (Dodecad) 13.37
11 Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) 13.99
12 Sephardic_Jews (Behar) 14.03
13 Georgia_Jews (Behar) 14.19
14 Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) 14.27
15 Morocco_Jews (Behar) 16.28
16 Armenian (Dodecad) 16.38
17 Turkish (Dodecad) 16.55
18 Turks (Behar) 17.18
19 Armenians_15 (Yunusbayev) 17.52
20 Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) 18.97

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:


# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 92.3% Druze (HGDP) + 7.7% French_Basque (HGDP) @ 3.28
2 61.2% Iraq_Jews (Behar) + 38.8% Morocco_Jews (Behar) @ 3.4
3 57.4% Iraq_Jews (Behar) + 42.6% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) @ 3.44
4 73.3% Druze (HGDP) + 26.7% Morocco_Jews (Behar) @ 3.48
5 92.1% Druze (HGDP) + 7.9% Pais_Vasco (1000Genomes) @ 3.55
6 90.9% Druze (HGDP) + 9.1% Sardinian (HGDP) @ 3.66
7 89.8% Druze (HGDP) + 10.2% Andalucia (1000Genomes) @ 3.74
8 90.5% Druze (HGDP) + 9.5% Castilla_La_Mancha (1000Genomes) @ 3.78
9 89.7% Druze (HGDP) + 10.3% Murcia (1000Genomes) @ 3.78
10 89.5% Druze (HGDP) + 10.5% Canarias (1000Genomes) @ 3.84
11 90.8% Druze (HGDP) + 9.2% Aragon (1000Genomes) @ 3.85
12 90.6% Druze (HGDP) + 9.4% Spanish (Dodecad) @ 3.91
13 90.8% Druze (HGDP) + 9.2% Valencia (1000Genomes) @ 3.92
14 90.4% Druze (HGDP) + 9.6% Castilla_Y_Leon (1000Genomes) @ 3.97
15 90.1% Druze (HGDP) + 9.9% Portuguese (Dodecad) @ 3.99
16 90% Druze (HGDP) + 10% Extremadura (1000Genomes) @ 3.99
17 91% Druze (HGDP) + 9% Cantabria (1000Genomes) @ 4
18 71.1% Druze (HGDP) + 28.9% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) @ 4
19 90.6% Druze (HGDP) + 9.4% Spaniards (Behar) @ 4.01
20 90.9% Druze (HGDP) + 9.1% Cataluna (1000Genomes) @ 4.1



MDLP K23b:

Admix Results (sorted):


# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 41.62
2 Near_East 19.03
3 European_Early_Farmers 17.63
4 South_Central_Asian 8.52
5 North_African 7.57
6 Melano_Polynesian 1.62
7 East_African 1.60


Finished reading population data. 620 populations found.
23 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Syrian_Jew @ 5.954830
2 Cypriot @ 6.045109
3 Lebanese_Muslim @ 8.250327
4 Lebanese @ 8.961843
5 Lebanese_Christian @ 9.386665
6 Lebanese_Druze @ 9.509774
7 Turk_Jew @ 10.080772
8 Sephardic_Jew @ 10.137349
9 Christian_Arabs_Israel @ 10.183720
10 Samaritian @ 10.197243
11 Italian_Jew @ 10.781670
12 Tunisian_Jew @ 11.645947
13 Moroccan_Jew @ 12.165415
14 Greek_Islands @ 12.182813
15 Greek_Smyrna @ 12.502341
16 Assyrian_Iraqi @ 12.781654
17 Palestinian @ 12.806342
18 Iraqi_Jew @ 12.843336
19 French_Jew @ 13.069654
20 Druze @ 13.091320

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Lebanese_Christian +50% Sephardic_Jew @ 4.103357


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Cypriot +25% Libyan_Jew +25% Samaritian @ 3.288640

Peterski
05-26-2020, 06:59 PM
From here: https://anthrogenica.com/showthread.php?7958-GEDmatch-result-of-a-Lebanese-Druze

Wow seems strongly European-shifted in some calculators! Might be an outlier.

About 5 would be a good sample size, one is not enough to draw conclusions.

Pine
05-26-2020, 09:59 PM
Maybe someone from Israel/Palestine could help. I would pm them.

Druze don't live in Palestine - only in Israel.

SUPREEEEEME
05-27-2020, 09:46 AM
From here: https://anthrogenica.com/showthread.php?7958-GEDmatch-result-of-a-Lebanese-Druze

Near East K13 isn't actually so different from Ashkenazi results.