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Peterski
05-27-2020, 01:07 AM
What do you think about this?:

https://i.imgur.com/4RlAjgp.jpg

There is also one I1 in Iron Age France. I wonder if that was a descendant of local Neolithic survivors or did they come from elsewhere.

Synapsid
05-27-2020, 01:18 AM
What do you thing about this?:

https://i.imgur.com/4RlAjgp.jpg

There is also one I1 in Iron Age France. I wonder if that was a descendant of local Neolithic survivors or did they come from elsewhere.

Surprising yet not surprising. They would have acquired I from WHG males, but I thought they would have I2a2 like in Britain or GAC, although I1 was present in some GAC individuals and TRB farmers.

Synapsid
05-27-2020, 01:52 AM
What do you think about this?:



There is also one I1 in Iron Age France. I wonder if that was a descendant of local Neolithic survivors or did they come from elsewhere.

Also C1a2 was found in Pinsarbasi AHG in Central Anatolia, so its EEF of UHG origin (from poto-WHG?)

Aren
05-27-2020, 02:36 AM
Interesting, could mean that I1 went Cardial Ware France > Funnelbeaker Scandinavia as Scandinavian farmers seem to have originated from France, were it remained a small haplogroup amongst the I2 males until the Bronze Age.

Synapsid
05-27-2020, 02:47 AM
Interesting, could mean that I1 went Cardial Ware France > Funnelbeaker Scandinavia as Scandinavian farmers seem to have originated from France, were it remained a small haplogroup amongst the I2 males until the Bronze Age.

I don't think so. GAC/TRB farmers seem to have elevated WHG levels compared to atlantic farmers

Gonzalort
05-27-2020, 02:55 AM
Is real that Rb1 might be associeted with Celtic Cultures?

Aren
05-27-2020, 03:08 AM
I don't think so. GAC/TRB farmers seem to have elevated WHG levels compared to atlantic farmers

Both GAC and TRB originate from the French farmers, the native elements are rather weak.

Target: POL_Globular_Amphora
Distance: 3.2676% / 0.03267647
73.2 Anatolia_Barcin_N
21.4 WHG
5.4 Baltic_LTU_Narva

Target: SWE_TRB
Distance: 2.9378% / 0.02937790
74.6 Anatolia_Barcin_N
25.2 WHG
0.2 Baltic_LTU_Narva
0 SHG

Target: FRA_Clos_de_Roque_MLN
Distance: 5.0646% / 0.05064628 | ADC: 0.25x
79.2 Anatolia_Barcin_N
20.8 WHG

Shubotai
05-30-2020, 04:17 PM
I think I2 moves with R1a and I1 moves with R1b.
Like, even Albanians have R1b and I1 and Kurdish have R1a and I2.

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