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Panopticon
09-01-2011, 10:21 AM
Miss Albania 2009

Height: 175 cm / 5'9 ft.

http://i.imgur.com/inIPv.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/SUB19Hn.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/wdrBVIH.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/suY5SWM.jpg

Norid+Cromagnoid?

Absinthe
09-01-2011, 10:23 AM
Pontid/dinarid imo. In the first photo she reminds me a bit of Sabinae :)

safinator
09-01-2011, 07:57 PM
Noric + Pontid

gold_fenix
09-01-2011, 08:20 PM
Pontid/dinarid imo. In the first photo she reminds me a bit of Sabinae :)

curious , i would say she is romanian, nordid dinarizared

Agrippa
09-02-2011, 08:06 AM
Norid with Nordoid and Cromagnoid.

Absinthe
09-02-2011, 08:10 AM
How do you pronounce this name, by the way? It sounds like a tongue-twister! :p

Panopticon
09-02-2011, 08:24 AM
How do you pronounce this name, by the way? It sounds like a tongue-twister! :p

Jokitchi
J as in jam, o as in wool just not as long.

memobekes
09-02-2011, 10:04 AM
Ponto-Mediterranid with slight Dinaroid.

May I ask where you see the Cromagnid in her? Her face doesn't seem to be broad enough but rather long, typical for Atlanto-Meds/Pontids.

Regards.

safinator
09-02-2011, 10:06 AM
I think chin and jaw area gives the impression.

memobekes
09-02-2011, 10:09 AM
Thanks Safinator.

In the third image, her face looks Aurignacoid.

When I think of a robust Cromagnid, this would come to mind:

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=1069&stc=1&d=1237750732

A very strong and prominent jawline, as you can see. Isn't that supposed to be a Dinarid feature rather?

safinator
09-02-2011, 10:12 AM
Thanks Safinator.

In the third image, her face looks Aurignacoid.

When I think of a robust Cromagnid, this would come to mind:

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=1069&stc=1&d=1237750732

A very strong and prominent jawline, as you can see. Isn't that supposed to be a Dinarid feature rather?
Dinarids can have it, but i believe it's usually narrower than those of CM.

memobekes
09-02-2011, 10:18 AM
Ah, right. Cool.

I tried to search for some better examples. Are these more reflective?

Serbs:

http://209.85.62.24/67/29/0/p421019/174369_1059801088_8348817_n.jpghttp://209.85.62.24/67/29/0/p421023/sasa_ilic.jpghttp://209.85.62.24/67/29/0/p420987/267966_120779281342344_100002308187791_190532_6464 682_n.jpg

safinator
09-02-2011, 10:22 AM
Ah, right. Cool.

I tried to search for some better examples. Are these more reflective?

Serbs:

http://209.85.62.24/67/29/0/p421019/174369_1059801088_8348817_n.jpghttp://209.85.62.24/67/29/0/p421023/sasa_ilic.jpghttp://209.85.62.24/67/29/0/p420987/267966_120779281342344_100002308187791_190532_6464 682_n.jpg
The last guy seems a good example.

exceeder
02-21-2012, 04:58 PM
pontid-alpinid with dinaroid influences.

Rouxinol
04-09-2012, 11:07 AM
Norid + CM.

Kalitas
05-09-2012, 06:49 PM
Norid/Pontid+Cromagnid influences (due to her prominent gonial angles)

Guapo
05-09-2012, 06:53 PM
Jasna Đukić, wtf she albanized?

Ugo Tognazzi
06-28-2012, 11:05 PM
mainly Norid / Noric with some Nordid/Faelid influence

Siginulfo
07-05-2012, 03:27 PM
Balto-CM+Dinaro-Pontid tendencies.

poiuytrewq0987
07-09-2012, 08:54 PM
Has she heard of cevapi? She is damn too skinny!

kvarc
07-09-2012, 09:00 PM
Jokitchi
J as in jam, o as in wool just not as long. it`s sounds exactly like a Serbian last name Djokic. From what part of Albania is she?

Ushtari
07-09-2012, 09:02 PM
it`s sounds exactly like a Serbian last name Djokic. From what part of Albania is she?
have you ever been in kosovo?

kvarc
07-09-2012, 09:07 PM
have you ever been in kosovo?

haven`t traveled that much through south Serbia ;)

Ushtari
07-09-2012, 09:10 PM
haven`t traveled that much through south Serbia ;)
south Serbia shouldn't be to different than Kosovo. Do you find Serbs from there different looking than those from where you are?

safinator
07-09-2012, 09:12 PM
http://i.imgur.com/Sri0w.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/inIPv.jpg

kvarc
07-09-2012, 09:15 PM
south Serbia shouldn't be to different than Kosovo. Do you find Serbs from there different looking than those from where you are?

actually from all parts of south Serbia, I like Metohija the most :D

dralos
07-09-2012, 09:16 PM
actually from all parts of south Serbia, I like Metohija the most :D
you're probably slavized albo thats why you like it

Mordid
07-09-2012, 09:17 PM
Thanks Safinator.

In the third image, her face looks Aurignacoid.

When I think of a robust Cromagnid, this would come to mind:

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=1069&stc=1&d=1237750732

A very strong and prominent jawline, as you can see. Isn't that supposed to be a Dinarid feature rather?
compare her to him is not fair because he's a male and she's a female. And also, her CM is Cromagnoid, not Cromagnid like that Faelid you posted.

Ushtari
07-09-2012, 09:17 PM
actually from all parts of south Serbia, I like Metohija the most :D
You should visit Kosovo, your opinion would change very fast ;)

safinator
07-09-2012, 09:21 PM
compare her to him is not fair because he's a male and she's a female. And also, her CM is Cromagnoid, not Cromagnid like that Faelid you posted.
Who's that dude?
I never got any answer.

kvarc
07-10-2012, 01:07 AM
you're probably slavized albo thats why you like it

I think it must actually be because of the Serbian Monasteries and Castles from Middle Ages, when there was like 1% Albanians living in Kosovo and Metohija ;)

dralos
07-10-2012, 01:08 AM
I think it must actually be because of the Serbian Monasteries and Castles from Middle Ages, when there was like 1% Albanians living in Kosovo and Metohija ;)
keep dreaming:D

kvarc
07-10-2012, 01:21 AM
14th century
[edit]1321-1331
The Dečani charters (Serbian: Дечанске хрисовуље) from 1321-1331 by Stephen Uroš III Dečanski of Serbia contains a detailed list of households and villages in Metohija and northwestern Albania. The first charter concludes that this region was ethnically Serb.[20]

89 settlements with 2,666 households were recorded of which:[21]

3 Albanian settlements (3,3%)
86 Serbian settlements (96,6%)
2,166 livestock households of 2,666 agricultural households:

44 Albanian households (2%)
2,122 Serbian households (98%) :D

dralos
07-10-2012, 01:33 PM
nice a serbian source now your proved me wrong:D

kvarc
07-10-2012, 02:06 PM
nice a serbian source now your proved me wrong:D are read some of those charters myself :P

King Claus
10-12-2012, 07:04 PM
noric/nordid with a baltid/alpine cro magnid influence.

Guapo
10-13-2012, 03:08 AM
keep dreaming:D

Why dont you keep dreaming, its obvious from your looks that you are a Albanized Serb, Albanians are mountain people and newcomers to plains of kosovo.

kvarc
10-13-2012, 04:13 AM
Why dont you keep dreaming, its obvious from your looks that you are a Albanized Serb, Albanians are mountain people and newcomers to plains of kosovo.

well her last name is certainly Serbian by origins...

Ushtari
10-13-2012, 07:39 AM
Norid+CM

Flintlocke
10-13-2012, 07:50 AM
http://i.imgur.com/Sri0w.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/inIPv.jpg

VEEERY Kosovar looking, that's what I've noticed this sort of a dinarid type is very typical amongst Kosovalbo females.

Ushtari
10-13-2012, 08:06 AM
VEEERY Kosovar looking, that's what I've noticed this sort of a dinarid type is very typical amongst Kosovalbo females.
Kosovar girls > Tosk girls

Flintlocke
10-13-2012, 08:34 AM
Eat my shorts MH4LHeUrgQE

Ushtari
10-13-2012, 09:46 AM
^^ Assimilated Ghegs from Tirana

Smaug
11-11-2012, 09:20 PM
Norid + CM

mysticism
11-11-2012, 09:24 PM
Jasna Đukić, wtf she albanized?

Obvi brate :cool:

Hess
03-28-2013, 12:02 AM
Pred. CM with additional Norid influence (nose area)

Peikko
04-10-2013, 03:01 PM
Norid+CM

kvarc
04-11-2013, 01:13 PM
She is obviusly of Serbian origins

safinator
04-15-2013, 11:11 AM
She is obviusly of Serbian origins

Nope and she doesn't look like one.

Arbërori
04-15-2013, 11:16 AM
She is obviusly of Serbian origins

She's from Fier, that's like in Southern Albania. :picard2:

Anglojew
04-15-2013, 11:20 AM
Nice

Laebat
05-31-2013, 04:27 PM
Predominanly norid

Atlantic Islander
05-31-2013, 06:01 PM
Norid + CM.

kvarc
05-31-2013, 09:16 PM
She's from Fier, that's like in Southern Albania. :picard2:

Jasna Djukic :)

Amun
07-11-2013, 09:28 PM
Pontid/Alpine

Arbërori
07-12-2013, 01:13 AM
Jasna Djukic :)

I know you want me... It's all too obvious.

Neanderthal
08-24-2013, 07:42 PM
Probably North-Pontid + Norid.

Smeagol
08-24-2013, 07:45 PM
Noric + Alpine.

armenianbodyhair
08-24-2013, 08:18 PM
NORAD + ??? *sigh* I wish I could pull of that eye makeup.

Kalimtari
02-15-2014, 12:53 PM
Olivia Wilde vibe. Btw, last name sounds Slavic, could she be a Bosniak from Al?

Kastrioti1443
04-25-2014, 05:06 PM
She was born in Fier but is with Albanian Kosovar heritage. Some Kosovar Albanians surnames were slavicised by invading serbs.

She is Borreby-Norid.

Stefan_Dusan
04-25-2014, 05:08 PM
lol that's a very Serbian name (Dzukic/Djukic).

Kastrioti1443
04-25-2014, 05:10 PM
Her original surname was probably Xhuki, she comes from highlands of Western Kosovo.

Stefan_Dusan
04-25-2014, 05:12 PM
Her original surname was probably Xhuki, she comes from highlands of Western Kosovo.

And what does Djuk mean in Albanian? It means Duke in Serbian and so common you find in every region.

Kastrioti1443
04-25-2014, 05:15 PM
And what does Djuk mean in Albanian? It means Duke in Serbian and so common you find in every region.

Not every surname has a meaning. Most southern albanian surnames do not have a proper meaning. She and her family are probably purer albanians even than me.

Stefan_Dusan
04-25-2014, 05:17 PM
Not every surname has a meaning. Most southern albanian surnames do not have a proper meaning. She and her family are probably purer albanians even than me.

They can be pure Albanians by blood, but they still decided to use Serbian name. In Serbian, it's used for a 'military commander', it's a name i have in my tree (mother) as so all true Serbians.

Kastrioti1443
04-25-2014, 05:18 PM
They can be pure Albanians by blood, but they still decided to use Serbian name. In Serbian, it's used for a 'military commander', it's a name i have in my tree (mother) as so all true Serbians.

I said to you that her surname like a lot of kosovar albanians was slavicised.

Stefan_Dusan
04-25-2014, 05:19 PM
I said to you that her surname like a lot of kosovar albanians was slavicised.

You are asserting based on no evidence. What was it slavicized from? Xhuki (Djuki) is still at root, slavic name. Not to mention, in what Albanian tradition do you guys call yourselves after Dukes? This is purely for Serbs who were highwayman.

Kastrioti1443
04-25-2014, 05:23 PM
You are asserting based on no evidence. What was it slavicized from? Xhuki (Djuki) is still at root, slavic name. Not to mention, in what Albanian tradition do you guys call yourselves after Dukes? This is purely for Serbs who were highwayman.

No evidence???? This is a well knwon fact, that a lot of kosvar albanians surnames were turned into slavic, it is xhuki, not djuki, it is procounced xh not dj.

Stefan_Dusan
04-25-2014, 05:28 PM
No evidence???? This is a well knwon fact, that a lot of kosvar albanians surnames were turned into slavic, it is xhuki, not djuki, it is procounced xh not dj.

xh is pronounced like dj or harder dz. It's Xhuk is pronounced like Djuk.

Skerdilaid
04-25-2014, 05:36 PM
Lol at Stefan, some Albos also were shaped with Slavic village names as last name by authorities, hence some Kosovars have last name like Dobra and such. ..

Stefan_Dusan
04-25-2014, 05:36 PM
Lol at Stefan, some Albos also were shaped with Slavic village names as last name by authorities, hence some Kosovars have last name like Dobra and such. ..

Djuk was never used to name a village that I know of.

Skerdilaid
04-25-2014, 05:40 PM
Djuk was never used to name a village that I know of.

Your Dj is equivalent to our GJ, and not XH, just leave it you are embarrassing your self here.....English Jack is our Xhek or Xheka. ..

Stefan_Dusan
04-25-2014, 05:42 PM
Your Dj is equivalent to our GJ, and not XH, just leave it you are embarrassing your self here.....English Jack is our Xhek or Xheka. ..

Xh is Dz in Serbian which is harder Dj.

Stefan_Dusan
04-25-2014, 05:42 PM
It's not Serbian. It probably comes from the Albanian surname "Gjoka" or "Gjoki"

LOL.

Stefan_Dusan
04-25-2014, 06:23 PM
LOL at how you look like a Turk you dirty Serb

Listen here Gypsy, I had my DNA tested and shared with members. There is no trace, not even 0.1% of non European blood in me. Whereas the same can't be said about the 5/8 Albanians I have.

But to educate your dumb Albanian ass. Gjoko comes from Georgios, a Greek word for pheasant, farmer. George, slavicized in Serbian is Djurdje, in Macedonia it's Gjurgje. Gjoko/Djoko is a nickname, little George. You only see this in slavic languages, i. milenko

The fact you don't know what is Albanian, and claim to be Albanian is hilarious to me :laugh: Gjoko is Macedonian spelling, Djoko is Serbian spelling. You borrowed from us, but even today you will 10x more Macedonians with this name than Albanians.

Kastrioti1443
04-25-2014, 06:30 PM
Gjok is 10000% albanian surname and name, what '' macedonian'' crap are you saying moron. Gjok is a name among catholic albanians and the reason why not a lot of albanians have it is because most of albanians are '' muslim''. There are no fyromans with name '' gjoko''. It has nothing to do with '' greek'' language. Version of name Gjok exist in every language.

Just because he called you a turk, you do not have to scream like a fucked sheep.

Lol average albanian is like 99.7-99.8 % european, and that left is a noise or something like that. We even had 2 Nordid albanian members here, who are not active or banned and they were both 99.7-99.8 % in the genetic tests they took, that unsignificant percentage is nothing, like a drop of water in ocean.

Skerdilaid
04-25-2014, 06:37 PM
Gjoka, is a last name among a lot of Kosovars in Drenica and other regions. The name in question here is Xheka or Xhuka in her case are very common last names in Drenica and in kosova, and it's the equivalent of Jack.

Gjo or Gjok are very common Albanian names and were so even during Middle Ages, not Slavic!

kuqezi
04-25-2014, 06:43 PM
From what I know Hasna Xhukici is from the Albanianised Slav muslims "Bosniaks" of Fieri. The same degenerates that are claiming to be Serb today.

I know Albanian clansmen from Decan that are Gjukaj. These kink of names I don't think can tie for certain with a particular ethnic origin as a lot of Slavs have it too like Djukanovic. There can be many reasons the name could have been given to Alb or Slav back in the day. Anyhow its not related to Gjoka obviously or it would Gjokici instead of Xhukici.

Kastrioti1443
04-25-2014, 06:49 PM
She is kosovar albanian with heritage, she is not from fier oroginally.

kuqezi
04-25-2014, 07:08 PM
She is kosovar albanian with heritage, she is not from fier oroginally.

I know they are not from Fier originally. They are Bosniak that fled the Serbs and were settled there. You have Kosovars that settled in Fier but also Bosniaks who today are claiming to be Serb. Xhukici last name doesn't exist in Kosova, and the only actual Albanian form that I know comes close to that and exists in Kosova today is Gjukaj.

dralos
04-25-2014, 07:17 PM
all xhukici are alboz just look it up on fb so don't be stupid

Stefan_Dusan
04-25-2014, 07:20 PM
Gjoka, is a last name among a lot of Kosovars in Drenica and other regions. The name in question here is Xheka or Xhuka in her case are very common last names in Drenica and in kosova, and it's the equivalent of Jack.

Gjo or Gjok are very common Albanian names and were so even during Middle Ages, not Slavic!

Gjoko is from George. Macedonians carry this name more than Albanians. Ko is a Slavic suffix not an albanian.

kuqezi
04-25-2014, 08:10 PM
all xhukici are alboz just look it up on fb so don't be stupid

No shit, they have been in Albania for a hundred years what do you expect, its been their first language for a long time now.

kuqezi
04-25-2014, 08:13 PM
Gjoko is from George. Macedonians carry this name more than Albanians. Ko is a Slavic suffix not an albanian.

In Albanian its Gjoka. The name is Gjok the suffix is a like Stefan can be said Stefana depending how its used in a sentence. In Albanian dogji means to have burned, in Serbian it means come. Coincidence. We have the names Gjok Gjek, Gjik.

dralos
04-25-2014, 08:14 PM
No shit, they have been in Albania for a hundred years what do you expect, its been their first language for a long time now.
lucky us that we have such people with such a brilliant amount of information about all albanians :D

Stefan_Dusan
04-25-2014, 08:14 PM
In Albanian its Gjoka. The name is Gjok the suffix is a. In Albanian dogji means to have burned, in Serbian it means come. Coincidence. We have the names Gjok Gjek, Gjik.

I think both are related to George.

kuqezi
04-25-2014, 08:18 PM
lucky us that we have such people with such a brilliant amount of information about all albanians :D

Dude im not new at this, I've been reading books and forums for 12 years now lol.

Skerdilaid
04-25-2014, 08:20 PM
In Albanian its Gjoka. The name is Gjok the suffix is a like Stefan can be said Stefana depending how its used in a sentence. In Albanian dogji means to have burned, in Serbian it means come. Coincidence. We have the names Gjok Gjek, Gjik.

Xheka is a very Albania name but it is the diminutive of Jack. This name is also a last name among my Clan in Drenica. So I dare you to go tell the Xheka from Drenica that they are Slavs;) Or for that mater the Gjoka too.

kuqezi
04-25-2014, 08:27 PM
Xheka is a very Albania name but it is the diminutive of Jack. This name is also a last name among my Clan in Drenica. So I dare you to go tell the Xheka from Drenica that they are Slavs;) Or for that mater the Gjoka too.

Calm down you jack rabbit. I said Gjeka and Gjoka are Albanian, read and try to understand what I wrote. Xhukici in Fier though are Bosniak, thats a fact. They just spell their name in the Albanian form, its Djukic originally.

Kastrioti1443
04-25-2014, 09:01 PM
Stefan do not be A SERBIAN NIGGER OK? There is not such thing first of all as '' macedonian' language and Gjoka or Gjok is 10000000% albanian, nothing to do with slavs.

kuqezi, her family comes from western kosovo originally like 100 years ago, do not claim to be a master on everything

Stefan_Dusan
04-25-2014, 09:02 PM
Stefan do not be A SERBIAN NIGGER OK? There is not such thing first of all as '' macedonian' language and Gjoka or Gjok is 10000000% albanian, nothing to do with slavs.

kuqezi, her family comes from western kosovo originally like 100 years ago, do not claim to be a master on everything

I will be what I want to be, you understand?

Kastrioti1443
04-25-2014, 09:05 PM
no one gives a shit what you want to be, but bullshit about others are not allowed to be said like you want

Stefan_Dusan
04-25-2014, 09:08 PM
no one gives a shit what you want to be, but bullshit about others are not allowed to be said like you want

I will say what I want, I've been hearing your bullshit too much, at least there needs to be balance.

Kastrioti1443
04-25-2014, 09:09 PM
what bullshit have i said?

Stefan_Dusan
04-25-2014, 09:56 PM
Dna? You look like a Turk. Don't give me that European blood bullshit.

My blood is pure. Ask people like Jaxman who have me on 23andMe to verify. I don't have dirty blood. I can't say the same about everyone ;)

Black Wolf
04-25-2014, 09:59 PM
My blood is pure. Ask people like Jaxman who have me on 23andMe to verify. I don't have dirty blood. I can't say the same about everyone ;)

You are extremely Balkan according to Ancestry Composition. :D

kuqezi
04-25-2014, 11:35 PM
Stefan do not be A SERBIAN NIGGER OK? There is not such thing first of all as '' macedonian' language and Gjoka or Gjok is 10000000% albanian, nothing to do with slavs.

kuqezi, her family comes from western kosovo originally like 100 years ago, do not claim to be a master on everything

Her family is Bosniak. And I'm not the one always telling people that I know better than them, that's your trademark. Either prove it or shut up. The facts are that Bosniaks were settled in Fier and her last name is Slav.

Kastrioti1443
04-25-2014, 11:46 PM
Her family is Bosniak. And I'm not the one always telling people that I know better than them, that's your trademark. Either prove it or shut up. The facts are that Bosniaks were settled in Fier and her last name is Slav.

Look here, you are a kosovar telling me what happens in albania, you even dared to tell me who are labs, when my mother is a lab... she has said several times she is of albanian kosovar heritage and in fact this '' bosniak'' thing was mentioned for the first time by you, so do not tell me to prove things, actually you have to prove your claims. Her surname is pretty common in Drenica region.

kuqezi
04-25-2014, 11:58 PM
Look here, you are a kosovar telling me what happens in albania, you even dared to tell me who are labs, when my mother is a lab... she has said several times she is of albanian kosovar heritage and in fact this '' bosniak'' thing was mentioned for the first time by you, so do not tell me to prove things, actually you have to prove your claims. Her surname is pretty common in Drenica region.

Hahaha you told me there were no Gheg migrations to Laberia and I showed you specific families and what region of the north they came from. Why would you even bring that up again?

Listen, the names Xhukici, Xhukiqi; or Gjukici, Gjukiqi DO NOT exist in Kosova. All the Xhukicis are in Albania and are muslim Slav origin. If you search google you will see Senada Xhukici from Albania. Senad or Senada is not used by Albanian muslims in Kosova only Bosniak muslim Slavs. I don't know where you come up with baseless shit like that name is common in Drenica, does not exist there.

Kastrioti1443
04-26-2014, 12:12 AM
Hahaha you told me there were no Gheg migrations to Laberia and I showed you specific families and what region of the north they came from. Why would you even bring that up again?

Listen, the names Xhukici, Xhukiqi; or Gjukici, Gjukiqi DO NOT exist in Kosova. All the Xhukicis are in Albania and are muslim Slav origin. If you search google you will see Senada Xhukici from Albania. Senad or Senada is not used by Albanian muslims in Kosova only Bosniak muslim Slavs. I don't know where you come up with baseless shit like that name is common in Drenica, does not exist there.


Not the surname Xhukiqi, but the surname xhuki is common in drenica. Her surname was obviously slavicised, like many albanians surnames in kosova. It is a well known thing.

Dude I know personally 3 kosovar albanian girls, pure ethnic 30000% albanian with name Senada, it is used in Albania also.

She has proudly said that she is a kosovar albanian several times, i do not understand this debate.

JeanBaMac
04-26-2014, 02:49 AM
North Pontid + Dinarid, can fit in Ukraine, Bulgaria or Southern Russia...

Maximum Speed
11-08-2014, 01:40 PM
Dinarid + pontid/CM

quaquaraqua
01-30-2015, 09:16 AM
Norid/CM basically.

Arbërori
01-30-2015, 09:18 AM
Hasna's family is indeed from Kosovo but settled in Fier a few generations ago. Her face screams Albanian from Kosovo.

Btw, Senada is used by all Balkan Muslims, it's Arabic for graceful or heavenly.

The.Mask
04-01-2015, 06:24 AM
Norid/Pontid

DRUM
04-15-2015, 04:37 PM
Pontid + Norid

The Blade
12-18-2016, 10:24 AM
Norid + Faelid. Beautiful.

Benim
05-13-2020, 10:37 AM
Dinaricized north-pontid + CM.