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Ion Basescul
05-30-2020, 12:23 PM
As the title says, post the autosomal DNA results for the ancients found so far to harbour your mtDNA.

The easiest way to do so is by going to this Ancient DNA repository (https://www.google.com/maps/d/u/0/viewer?mid=1TYJrkLXUap0Ip-8EIeTH-uzN4V8&ll=45.47372834118088%2C25.607709382506982&z=6) and searching for your mtDNA.
Then grab the names of the ancients and search for them in the ancients' spreadsheet (https://drive.google.com/file/d/1UrhcfNMLW0oMXIbHGUE60v2taCM7PFw1/view).

Finally, go onto Vahaduo (https://vahaduo.github.io/vahaduo/) and use the below model without a penalty.



Anatolia_Barcin_N,0.1175998,0.180118,0.0035312,-0.101158,0.0510443,-0.0483875,-0.0043582,-0.0069334,0.0362287,0.0807473,0.0079718,0.0118803,-0.0234545,0.0004691,-0.0419807,-0.0101913,0.0233091,0.0019866,0.0136954,-0.0097489,-0.0142249,0.0057723,-0.0041232,-0.0031658,-0.0043437
GEO_CHG,0.091058,0.102568,-0.083344,-0.00323,-0.08617,0.020638,0.024911,-0.001846,-0.128236,-0.074717,-0.006333,0.023979,-0.054856,0.004404,0.026601,-0.03275,0.02386,-0.013429,-0.022249,0.034767,0.033815,-0.007048,0.006532,-0.025787,-0.002036
WHG,0.1246365,0.116278,0.184789,0.189279,0.1546445 ,0.0464355,0.0131605,0.0372675,0.0890705,0.017768,-0.0153455,-0.015811,0.0159065,-0.0030275,0.053338,0.0582065,0.00502,0.016343,-0.0093015,0.055589,0.0944585,0.0111905,-0.049607,-0.160866,0.0170045
Baltic_LVA_HG,0.1292603,0.1004104,0.1802636,0.1972 329,0.1064236,0.0560919,0.0083574,0.0207106,0.0524 476,-0.0261394,-0.0046788,-0.0181151,0.0281434,-0.0053759,0.0355759,0.0480141,0.003072,0.0040856,-0.0059236,0.042325,0.0613526,0.0130531,-0.0262979,-0.1110549,0.0095949
IRN_Ganj_Dareh_N,0.0430252,0.0664158,-0.1550722,0.0047158,-0.122669,0.0235384,0.017109,-0.0011998,-0.082546,-0.0544158,-0.0028258,-0.0016186,0.0044896,-0.0062756,0.0316498,0.0561384,-0.0054242,0.0068664,0.0136508,-0.0334162,0.00856,-0.028836,-0.0110678,-0.039331,0.0222254
Levant_Natufian,0.020488,0.1431895,-0.0377125,-0.1387295,0.030775,-0.079484,-0.025616,-0.0175375,0.114329,0.002005,0.0332085,-0.0222555,0.076486,0.002133,0.0153365,0.009016,-0.0154505,-0.001014,-0.02206,0.040832,0.001497,0.0001235,-0.003636,-0.0044585,0.006287
Nganassan,0.0476917,-0.4066181,0.1557885,0.0023902,-0.1594452,-0.0882129,0.0285066,0.0433367,0.0310876,0.0128477, 0.1028569,0.0094115,-0.0040734,-0.0261619,-0.0219731,-0.0123307,-0.0010952,0.0134165,0.0268365,-0.0008505,0.0431363,-0.0118954,0.0336096,0.0003977,0.0135556
West_African:Yoruba,-0.6300625,0.0625011,0.022113,0.0167079,0.0005035,0 .0124741,-0.044417,0.0477673,-0.0488813,0.0327694,0.0046205,0.0007904,0.0230561, 0.0009509,0.0125232,-0.0096067,0.0070763,0.0004491,0.006022,-0.00299,0.0015542,0.0023156,-0.0017592,-0.0004711,-0.0004246
Indian:IND_Great_Andamanese_100BP,-0.018212,-0.235603,-0.128598,0.098838,0.023389,-0.003904,-0.016686,-0.003231,0.059721,0.02041,0.023222,0.004646,-0.0055,0.001239,-0.016151,-0.008884,0.009518,0.001014,-0.004902,0.026888,-0.00549,0.011994,-0.013311,-0.001205,0.000958
Yamnaya_UKR,0.1160995,0.0878435,0.0465745,0.106106 ,-0.030467,0.038766,0.0074025,-0.0026535,-0.0502105,-0.070252,-0.002923,0.003297,-0.002453,-0.019198,0.0311475,0.013988,-0.0009775,-0.0118455,-0.0036455,0.001313,-0.001248,-0.001175,-0.003636,0.0211475,0.001856
IberomaurusianMAR_Taforalt,-0.189857,0.0814452,-0.0242866,-0.085595,0.027636,-0.0552202,-0.0705968,0.0184146,0.155397,0.003499,0.0209156,-0.0318316,0.0747168,-0.0513334,0.0711988,-0.0363032,0.0052676,-0.066106,-0.1424162,0.0389938,-0.0376836,-0.1255322,0.0730118,-0.0137606,0.0164534
RUS_Devils_Gate_Cave_N,0.0227646,-0.4480516,0.0728598,-0.052972,-0.0414846,-0.0407738,0.005264,0.011215,0.0075266,0.021431,-0.0507624,-0.005665,0.0027948,0.0100466,-0.0100162,-0.0120658,-0.0043026,0.0060558,0.0153102,0.0099798,0.0104566,-0.0287366,-0.0196458,-0.0016628,-0.0099152


Results for me. I used T2a1b, instead of T2a1b1a, because the former has an older TMRCA of 7300ybp, so it will capture more ancients than my T2a1b1a of a TMRCA of 3700ybp.

https://i.imgur.com/rRuRqLn.png

Only T2a1b1a

https://i.imgur.com/CeVKexe.png

Halgurd
05-30-2020, 12:40 PM
Thanks for the map
Surprised to see so many ancients with j1b in Central Asia

Maintenance
05-30-2020, 12:45 PM
Seem too time consuming, im just gonna say White

Kaspias
05-30-2020, 12:53 PM
N Farmer -> Thracian -> Pomak

https://i.ibb.co/F588w9G/Ads-z.png

Korialstrasz
05-30-2020, 12:53 PM
I don't have any direct matches (TMRCA 3400), so I used u5b2a3 (TMRCA 9400 ypb) instead.

Target: Scythian_MDA:scy301 (3000 ybp - might even be an ancestor, it's well within confidence intervals, Yet, I have no idea as to where my mt haplo was formed)

Distance: 2.8432% / 0.02843228
47.0 Yamnaya_UKR
38.0 Anatolia_Barcin_N
6.6 RUS_Devils_Gate_Cave_N
4.4 Baltic_LVA_HG
2.0 GEO_CHG
2.0 IRN_Ganj_Dareh_N

It even shows up in my top 50!
0.08178488 Scythian_MDA:scy301

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The other match is...

Target: Scotland_N:I2988 (5000-7000 ybp)
Distance: 5.2887% / 0.05288656
80.6 Anatolia_Barcin_N
19.4 WHG

SUPREEEEEME
05-30-2020, 01:02 PM
Unfortunately, the only ancient sample with my Mt-DNA isn't on the G25 database. It's one of the Ptolemaic Era mummies from Abusir el-Meleq (sample:JK2896) .
So I'll do it for HV1b2's sibling branch, HV1b3:

Target: TUR_Alalakh_MLBA:ALA018
Distance: 3.7349% / 0.03734926
45.6 Anatolia_Barcin_N
24.2 IRN_Ganj_Dareh_N
16.4 GEO_CHG
13.8 Levant_Natufian


Target: Levant_Hazor_MLBA:I3965
Distance: 4.9176% / 0.04917593
36.2 Anatolia_Barcin_N
31.4 Levant_Natufian
18.2 IRN_Ganj_Dareh_N
14.2 GEO_CHG

firemonkey
05-30-2020, 10:31 PM
Target: AUT_LBK_N:I5207
Distance: 3.8776% / 0.03877641
95.2 Anatolia_Barcin_N
4.8 WHG

frankhammer
05-30-2020, 10:58 PM
Seem too time consuming, im just gonna say White

Same. Oddly, the only 2 HV18 are ancients from Mingora, Swat valley, Pakistan. So not white...

ph2ter
05-30-2020, 11:02 PM
Very interesting. I wasn't aware that Hallstatt Bylany DA112 has my mtDNA

https://i.imgur.com/4vjQAUj.png