How much Arab admixture there is in the Levantine ancestry in 23andme?

[Serbat14]

How much Arab admixture % there is in the Levantine ancestry in 23andme (if there is)?
Can someone please tell me? I am really confused about that.

[Abdelnour]

Dunno about 23andme but Levantines are grouped with Arabians as Middle Easterners, as opposed to Turks and Armenians being West Asian proper.

That said, on every calculator I have done, I score around 10-12 percent Arabian or Red Sea. Palestinians and Southern Levantines score more.

[Serbat14]

Dunno about 23andme but Levantines are grouped with Arabians as Middle Easterners, as opposed to Turks and Armenians being West Asian proper.

That said, on every calculator I have done, I score around 10-12 percent Arabian or Red Sea. Palestinians and Southern Levantines score more.

So the red sea is the arabian admixture in the Levantine category? You sure? Because red sea is present in many non arab and even non middle eastern groups..

[Abdelnour]

So the red sea is the arabian admixture in the Levantine category? You sure? Because red sea is present in many non arab and even non middle eastern groups..

Well Red Sea is the only thing that I can think of when it comes to Arabian ancestry.

I mentioned Red Sea because it peaks in Arabia. Europeans have Red Sea but that came from the neolithic era.

There is Beduoin B, but Levantines score low on it. There are Palestinian users here that score 10% max.

[Serbat14]

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[Narration]

Well Red Sea is the only thing that I can think of when it comes to Arabian ancestry.

I mentioned Red Sea because it peaks in Arabia. Europeans have Red Sea but that came from the neolithic era.

There is Beduoin B, but Levantines score low on it. There are Palestinian users here that score 10% max.

What about Southwest Asian admixture of Dodecad K12 instead of Red Sea admixture of Eurogenes K13? I think the first is more of an indicator of Arabian ancestry since it peaks among Saudis. By the way, my Southwest Asian score on Dodecad K12 is 8.88%.

[Serbat14]

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[Leto]

What about Southwest Asian admixture of Dodecad K12 instead of Red Sea admixture of Eurogenes K13? I think the first is more of an indicator of Arabian ancestry since it peaks among Saudis. By the way, my Southwest Asian score on Dodecad K12 is 8.88%.
What is your full D K12b breakdown?

[Narration]

What is your full D K12b breakdown?

I sent via PM.

[Serbat14]

What is your full D K12b breakdown?


I sent via PM.

So can we say Levantine has less than 15% arabian admixture to it?

[Leto]

I have no idea how much Arabian they are. I guess it depends on the group/community.

[Serbat14]

Sf

[waam]

So can we say Levantine has less than 15% arabian admixture to it?

As far as I know Levantines score around 20 something-ish percent Southwest Asian on K12. I don't think that would be literal modern day Arabian like ancestry though because Northern West Asians score considerable amount of it as well.

[Serbat14]

As far as I know Levantines score around 20 something-ish percent Southwest Asian on K12. I don't think that would be literal modern day Arabian like ancestry though because Northern West Asians score considerable amount of it as well.

Do you think Eurogenes K36 can tell how much genetically arab you are? Because it says specifically "Arabian" instead of "Red Sea" or "Southwest Asian"
So this calculator is accurate?

[Abdelnour]

Do you think Eurogenes K36 can tell how much genetically arab you are? Because it says specifically "Arabian" instead of "Red Sea" or "Southwest Asian"
So this calculator is accurate?

In K36, I score:

Arabian: 8.88
Near East: 23.56

Take that for what is worth.

[Nassbean]

what do you all think of this :

https://i.imgur.com/yJ8BMK3.png

[Serbat14]

what do you all think of this :

https://i.imgur.com/yJ8BMK3.png

Interesting

So the numbers under arab tells how much arab admixture those Levantine populations have on average?

[Nassbean]

Interesting

So the numbers under arab tells how much arab admixture those Levantine populations have on average?

logically yes

[Abdelnour]

Interesting.

Palestinians seem more SSA than Jordanians. Would have thought the reverse.

[Serbat14]

logically yes

Btw, Palestinian_Bait_Sahour means simply Palestinian Christians?

[Nassbean]

Btw, Palestinian_Bait_Sahour means simply Palestinian Christians?

yes if I remember correctly

[Narration]

Do you think Eurogenes K36 can tell how much genetically arab you are? Because it says specifically "Arabian" instead of "Red Sea" or "Southwest Asian"
So this calculator is accurate?

Red Sea peaks among Ethiopians and Somalis so it might be representing genetic footprint of Hamitic people. Southwest Asian peaks among Saudi Arabians and I guess it is a more accurate representation of Arabic people's genetic footprint.

[Serbat14]

what do you all think of this :

https://i.imgur.com/yJ8BMK3.png
Oh and where you got this? It seems like good stuff for acknowledge genetics in ethnic groups

[waam]

Do you think Eurogenes K36 can tell how much genetically arab you are? Because it says specifically "Arabian" instead of "Red Sea" or "Southwest Asian"
So this calculator is accurate?

I score 17.77% which actually seems in line up pretty accurately with my ancestry, so who knows. Still wouldn't take it too literally though.


what do you all think of this :

https://i.imgur.com/yJ8BMK3.png

Which calculator is this?

[Nassbean]

Which calculator is this?

I made it myself

[waam]

I made it myself

G25?

[Nassbean]

G25?

yep

[waam]

yep

Which references did you use for Arab and for Levantine?

[Nassbean]

Which references did you use for Arab and for Levantine?

for levantine I used samaritans and for arab I used yemenites from Mahra

[waam]

for levantine I used samaritans and for arab I used yemenites from Mahra

Interesting.