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Ahaddad
06-03-2020, 02:34 PM
My cousin it’s half Lebanese and Half North Italian in general all calculator gedmatch give results like his correct admix, but mdlp K23 give High south Central Asia around 10%, and very low near East to half Lebanese around 8%, i want opinions from this calculator.

I will put his results here:




Kit T801161

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 35.9
2 European_Early_Farmers 19.41
3 European_Hunters_Gatherers 12.01
4 South_Central_Asian 9.65
5 Near_East 8.82
6 North_African 6.31
7 East_African 1.82
8 Melano_Polynesian 1.41
9 Austronesian 1.12
10 Australoid 0.85
11 African_Pygmy 0.78
12 South_East_Asian 0.56
13 Archaic_African 0.52
14 Ancestral_Altaic 0.3
15 South_Indian 0.27
16 Paleo_Siberian 0.15
17 Amerindian 0.13

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Ashkenazi_Jew ( ) 6.58
2 Sicilian_West ( ) 7.05
3 Bulgarian ( ) 8.04
4 French_Jew ( ) 8.21
5 Sephardic_Jew ( ) 8.25
6 Sicilian_Agrigento ( ) 8.38
7 Turk_Balikesir ( ) 8.42
8 Greek_Peloponnesos ( ) 8.89
9 Turk_Jew ( ) 8.93
10 Greek_Northwest ( ) 8.94
11 Macedonian ( ) 9
12 Sicilian_Siracusa ( ) 9.04
13 Maltese ( ) 9.12
14 Sicilian_East ( ) 9.14
15 Crimean_Tatar_Mountain ( ) 9.24
16 Italian_Jew ( ) 9.32
17 Sicilian_Trapani ( ) 9.33
18 Ashkenazi ( ) 9.43
19 Greek_Thessaloniki ( ) 9.46
20 Montenegrian ( ) 9.88

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 83% Sicilian_West ( ) + 17% Tabassaran ( ) @ 3.41
2 72.5% Maltese ( ) + 27.5% Azeri ( ) @ 3.5
3 74.2% Maltese ( ) + 25.8% Uzbek_Tashkent ( ) @ 3.54
4 79.9% Sicilian_West ( ) + 20.1% Uzbek_Tashkent ( ) @ 3.55
5 82.7% Sicilian_West ( ) + 17.3% Kumyk ( ) @ 3.59
6 83.7% Sicilian_West ( ) + 16.3% Lezgin ( ) @ 3.61
7 83.9% Sicilian_West ( ) + 16.1% Avar ( ) @ 3.62
8 82.8% Ashkenazi_Jew ( ) + 17.2% Iranian ( ) @ 3.62
9 55.7% Sicilian_West ( ) + 44.3% Turk_Balikesir ( ) @ 3.63
10 72.1% Sicilian_Trapani ( ) + 27.9% Azeri ( ) @ 3.65
11 78.6% Sicilian_West ( ) + 21.4% Azeri ( ) @ 3.65
12 82.8% Sicilian_West ( ) + 17.2% Azeri_Dagestan ( ) @ 3.66
13 83.5% Sicilian_West ( ) + 16.5% Lak ( ) @ 3.66
14 73.8% Sicilian_Trapani ( ) + 26.2% Uzbek_Tashkent ( ) @ 3.66
15 81% Sicilian_East ( ) + 19% Tajik_Yagnobi ( ) @ 3.67
16 78.4% Maltese ( ) + 21.6% Tabassaran ( ) @ 3.68
17 83.9% Sicilian_West ( ) + 16.1% Kabardin ( ) @ 3.69
18 81.9% Sicilian_West ( ) + 18.1% Baku_WGA ( ) @ 3.71
19 83.9% Sicilian_Center ( ) + 16.1% Makrani ( ) @ 3.71
20 89.8% Ashkenazi ( ) + 10.2% Brahui ( ) @ 3.72

Finished reading population data. 620 populations found.
23 components mode.

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Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Sicilian_West_ @ 6.560158
2 Ashkenazi_Jew_ @ 6.599890
3 Cretan_ @ 7.354296
4 Turk_Balikesir_ @ 8.035192
5 Sicilian_East_ @ 8.286536
6 Sicilian_Agrigento_ @ 8.452397
7 Romanian_Jew_ @ 8.656827
8 Ashkenazi_ @ 8.661299
9 Sicilian_Siracusa_ @ 8.673234
10 Sicilian_Trapani_ @ 8.850551
11 Maltese_ @ 9.149397
12 French_Jew_ @ 9.277068
13 Crimean_Tatar_Mountain_ @ 9.808519
14 Greek_Athens_ @ 9.868232
15 Italian_South_ @ 9.895898
16 Greek_ @ 10.100212
17 Greek_Smyrna_ @ 10.415382
18 Central_Greek_ @ 10.996173
19 Sephardic_Jew_ @ 11.162481
20 Sicilian_Center_ @ 11.169772

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Sicilian_West_ +50% Turk_Balikesir_ @ 3.972151


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Azov_Greek_ +25% Lebanese_Muslim_ +25% Spanish_Canarias_IBS_ @ 2.924684


Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ +++++++++++++++++
1 Georgian_Imereti_ + Italian_North_ + Muslim_Arabs_Israel_ + Spanish_Canarias_IBS_ @ 2.695500
2 Cypriot_ + Gagauz_ + Spanish_Canarias_IBS_ + Uzbek_Tashkent_ @ 2.726371
3 Azov_Greek_ + Greek_Athens_ + Kurd_Jew_ + Spanish_Canarias_IBS_ @ 2.806678
4 Azov_Greek_ + Greek_ + Kurd_Jew_ + Spanish_Canarias_IBS_ @ 2.824111
5 Azov_Greek_ + Cretan_ + Georgian_Jew_ + Spanish_Canarias_IBS_ @ 2.831043
6 Georgian_Imereti_ + Italian_North_ + Spanish_Canarias_IBS_ + Syrian_ @ 2.833802
7 Azov_Greek_ + Italian_South_ + Spanish_Canarias_IBS_ + Uzbek_Tashkent_ @ 2.864210
8 Azov_Greek_ + Central_Greek_ + Kurd_Jew_ + Spanish_Canarias_IBS_ @ 2.867772
9 Georgian_Jew_ + Italian_South_ + Spanish_Canarias_IBS_ + Turk_Istanbul_ @ 2.870731
10 Azov_Greek_ + Greek_Athens_ + Spanish_Canarias_IBS_ + Uzbekistani_Jew_ @ 2.871059
11 Armenian_ + Bulgarian_ + Lebanese_Muslim_ + Spanish_Canarias_IBS_ @ 2.882629
12 Azov_Greek_ + Greek_ + Spanish_Canarias_IBS_ + Uzbekistani_Jew_ @ 2.883300
13 Georgian_Laz_ + Italian_North_ + Muslim_Arabs_Israel_ + Spanish_Canarias_IBS_ @ 2.883481
14 Georgian_Jew_ + Greek_Athens_ + Spanish_Canarias_IBS_ + Turk_Istanbul_ @ 2.888889
15 Georgian_Jew_ + Greek_ + Spanish_Canarias_IBS_ + Turk_ @ 2.895750
16 Georgian_Imereti_ + Italian_North_ + Palestinian_ + Spanish_Canarias_IBS_ @ 2.895808
17 Azov_Greek_ + Italian_South_ + Spanish_Canarias_IBS_ + Uzbekistani_Jew_ @ 2.898646
18 Georgian_Jew_ + Greek_ + Spanish_Canarias_IBS_ + Turk_Istanbul_ @ 2.899836
19 Assyrian_Iraqi_ + Gagauz_ + Spanish_Canarias_IBS_ + Turk_Kayseri_ @ 2.901028
20 Azeri_ + Cypriot_ + Gagauz_ + Spanish_Canarias_IBS_ @ 2.907768

Ahaddad
06-03-2020, 02:35 PM
His KIT number is T801161 If someone want to see

aklifal
06-03-2020, 02:56 PM
south central asia = gedrosia

Ahaddad
06-03-2020, 03:37 PM
south central asia = gedrosia

Yes but by his admixture, if you see his near East I think is low To a half Lebanese and if u see population admixture give Caucasian or Central Asian, like Georgian,Uzbek Etc. In Mdlp 22 or World his admix be ok but in Mdlp 23 change. Why? Isn’t accurate ?

aklifal
06-03-2020, 03:54 PM
Yes but by his admixture, if you see his near East I think is low To a half Lebanese and if u see population admixture give Caucasian or Central Asian, like Georgian,Uzbek Etc. In Mdlp 22 or World his admix be ok but in Mdlp 23 change. Why? Isn’t accurate ?

K23b is eastern shifted. not best for euro admixtures. it's normal for him to have more eastern populations in his results. try other calcs.

Ahaddad
06-03-2020, 04:01 PM
K23b is eastern shifted. not best for euro admixtures. it's normal for him to have more eastern populations in his results. try other calcs.

Yes but he is half Lebanese, if more eastern Will give Him more near East i give too little btw

RyoHazuki
06-04-2020, 01:41 AM
Take it with a grain of salt, it's old.

Ahaddad
06-04-2020, 07:02 AM
Take it with a grain of salt, it's old.

What you mean ?

RyoHazuki
06-04-2020, 08:46 AM
What you mean ?

Its an old calculator from 2014 with old data sets, so don't take it seriously.

Ahaddad
06-04-2020, 12:15 PM
Its an old calculator from 2014 with old data sets, so don't take it seriously.

What it’s new calculators ?

RyoHazuki
06-04-2020, 05:28 PM
What it’s new calculators ?

It hasn't been updated since 2014, that's all there is.

Dick
12-21-2021, 03:38 AM
No it's not. When I want a good laugh I look at my father's results on gedmatch but then again, he does have a Germanic build like Richmondbread except his eyes are blue and not poop colored.

https://i.imgur.com/I04eoMl.png

HelloGuys
12-21-2021, 03:42 AM
Not for me, and even I haven't heard good references about that calc