Can Southeast Asians pass in Latin America?

[Trouble]

I dont believe most can

[hmaohma78]

As a group no way; but certain individuals do have a pseudo new world vibe.

[El_Abominacion]

Some can atypically, though East/Southeast Asians are usually easily told apart from people of mixed Native American ancestry. Those from regions such as Vietnam however can not pass at all imo

[Trouble]

Some can atypically, though East/Southeast Asians are usually easily told apart from people of mixed Native American ancestry. Those from regions such as Vietnam however can not pass at all imo

many people claim they cant tell the difference

[El_Abominacion]

many people claim they cant tell the difference

These are likely the people who believe that Asia is a country

[Trouble]

These are likely the people who believe that Asia is a country

Yep, lol

[Thambi]

These are likely the people who believe that Asia is a country

Asia is one country though. There's lighter Chinese in the northern asian country and darker chinese towards the south of the asian country..

[Tooting Carmen]

Some can atypically, though East/Southeast Asians are usually easily told apart from people of mixed Native American ancestry. Those from regions such as Vietnam however can not pass at all imo

This.

[Tooting Carmen]

In fact, I'd say that Maoris and Pacific Islanders often look more pseudo-Latin American (in a Mulatto/Triracial/Zambo sense) than SE Asians do.

[Trouble]

In fact, I'd say that Maoris and Pacific Islanders often look more pseudo-Latin American (in a Mulatto/Triracial/Zambo sense) than SE Asians do.

100% true.

One of the biggest differences I noticed is that Amerindians and Amerindian shifted Latinos have MUCH more robust/masculine facial features when compared to east asians as a whole. The same applies to Polynesians. Therefore Polynesians pass better as Latinos than SE Asians do.

[Joso]

idk

[Maguzanci]

Some can atypically, though East/Southeast Asians are usually easily told apart from people of mixed Native American ancestry. Those from regions such as Vietnam however can not pass at all imo

Not necessarily as Vietnamese can sometimes resemble Brazilids who can occasionally look like NE Asians living in jungles.

[Maguzanci]

Most cannot pass. They look different phenotypically from most Amerindians and Indomestizos and would look out of place.

Ppl who say they look alike are pretty ignorant and focused too much on tanned brown skin, straight hair and small round eyes but ignore everything else including overall facial features and phenotypes which is rather distinct.

[Chris596]

Nope, I agree with the others. Most of them certainly cannot pass, maybe on an individual level.

Even ,,halfies" can't pass imo. For example, I know two half Japanese and half Hungarian kids, they don't look like a Mexican for example. There is still a very strong East-Asian vibe to them. But yeah, we're talking about SEA people now.

[Maguzanci]

In fact, I'd say that Maoris and Pacific Islanders often look more pseudo-Latin American (in a Mulatto/Triracial/Zambo sense) than SE Asians do.

Pacific Islanders refers to Polynesians, Micronesians and Fijians in this case? Because I think Melanesians like Solomon Islands, Papuans cannot pass.. they look too distinct andnl exotic to look pseudo-Mulatto or Zambo.

[Amador]

They pass better than East Asians but still IMO they look rather distinct and more "oriental-like" on average, although there is some overlap with some of the more Amerindian shifted Latin Americans of course.

[Tooting Carmen]

Pacific Islanders refers to Polynesians, Micronesians and Fijians in this case?

Yes

[Mixdguy17]

Some can but definitely not as a group, I think North Africa or some other MENA populations can pass much better as a whole than south Asians in general, there are some who can though.

[Incal]

Some can. Specially for triracials.

[Trouble]

Some can but definitely not as a group, I think North Africa or some other MENA populations can pass much better as a whole than south Asians in general, there are some who can though.

southeast asians..

[Mixdguy17]

southeast asians..

U mean like Filipinos? Some Filipinos can definetly pass as mestizos and indo-mestizos but not really the majority as some have a clearly asian look vibe

[Maguzanci]

U mean like Filipinos? Some Filipinos can definetly pass as mestizos and indo-mestizos but not really the majority as some have a clearly asian look vibe

How much is the % of those who can pass would you estimated? 5% and less?

Most of these Filipinos that can pass have some Euro ancestry tho.

I also don't think Filipinos can pass among most Amerindians as the latter often have much sharper nose, long narrower face, and robust muscular features unlike the former.

[Mixdguy17]

How much is the % of those who can pass would you estimated? 5% and less?

Most of these Filipinos that can pass have some Euro ancestry tho.

I also don't think Filipinos can pass among most Amerindians as the latter often have much sharper nose, long narrower face, and robust muscular features unlike the former.

Hmmm in % that would be hard to calculate as I really dont know, but If I had to guess maybe 10%?.

Agree with everything else u said. Also most east asians tend to be really skinny and amerindians tend to be more thick or have some mass (not really talking about muscle). I actually made a thread comparing Latin American Mestizos and Filipino Mestizoa, it was quite interesting, go on my threads if u are interested.

[Trouble]

U mean like Filipinos? Some Filipinos can definetly pass as mestizos and indo-mestizos but not really the majority as some have a clearly asian look vibe

Yes them, Indonesians, and all the countries in mainland SE Asia like Vietnam, Cambodia, Thailand, Myanmar, Malaysia, and Laos.

[Mixdguy17]

Yes them, Indonesians, and all the countries in mainland SE Asia like Vietnam, Cambodia, Thailand, Myanmar, Malaysia, and Laos.

I am only more Familiar with Filipinos with the others I wouldn't really be able to say tbh.

[Trouble]

I am only more Familiar with Filipinos with the others I wouldn't really be able to say tbh.

https://static01.nyt.com/images/2016/07/11/world/11cambodia01/11cambodia01-superJumbo.jpg

Cambodians. Typical for SE Asia

[Mixdguy17]

https://static01.nyt.com/images/2016/07/11/world/11cambodia01/11cambodia01-superJumbo.jpg

Cambodians. Typical for SE Asia

There are some things that are very similar but I think mostly bcs of the eyes and noses and jut overall head shape makes them look distinct overall, in this pic I think none could pass tbh. Maybe the guy all the way to the left with the blue and white squares shirt.

[Maguzanci]

Hmmm in % that would be hard to calculate as I really dont know, but If I had to guess maybe 10%?.

Agree with everything else u said. Also most east asians tend to be really skinny and amerindians tend to be more thick or have some mass (not really talking about muscle). I actually made a thread comparing Latin American Mestizos and Filipino Mestizoa, it was quite interesting, on my threads if u are interested.

Thanks. 10% is a bit high i think.

Yup. It also applied to other SE Asians like Indonesians, Malays, Thai, Cambodian. I don't think most would pass as Natives either as they have very differrent features from most Amerinds.

I had a look at thread before. Yup. A lot of them look clearly different. Because Filipinos and other SE Asians have clearly distinct phenos from Natives not to mentioned that the Amerinds many times have Caucasoid-like features from their very high ANE ancestry (which is mostly ancient West Eurasian/Caucasoid component)

[Maguzanci]

There are some things that are very similar but I think mostly bcs of the eyes and noses and jut overall head shape makes them look distinct overall, in this pic I think none could pass tbh. Maybe the guy all the way to the left with the blue and white squares shirt.

Yup I believed many people who think both groups look similar or that they cannot tell them apart focused too much on dark tanned skin, super straight hair and sometimes round deep eyes which is shared features between SE Asians and Amerinds but ignore everything else including the overall facial structures, traits/phenos and robust physique which is very different between both groups.

[Trouble]

Yup I believed many people who think both groups look similar or that they cannot tell them apart focused too much on dark tanned skin, super straight hair and sometimes round deep eyes which is shared features between SE Asians and Amerinds but ignore everything else including the overall facial structures, traits/phenos and robust physique which is very different between both groups.

Its part of that "they all look the same if they don't look like anything Im used to" mentality.

[Mixdguy17]

Yup I believed many people who think both groups look similar or that they cannot tell them apart focused too much on dark tanned skin, super straight hair and sometimes round deep eyes which is shared features between SE Asians and Amerinds but ignore everything else including the overall facial structures, traits/phenos and robust physique which is very different between both groups.

Completely Agree.

[Maguzanci]

Its part of that "they all look the same if they don't look like anything Im used to" mentality.

Yes. Its shows their ignorance and lack of critical thinking.

Thesre are probably the same ppl that think Australoids and Blacks look the same.

[Maguzanci]

Completely Agree.

Yep. Also many Natives have Caucasoid-like features that Filipinos and other SE Asians do not have which is from their ANE ancestry.

I wonder if Istmids developed broad round face with round eyes, big flat nose and thick lips as a result of convergent evolution from living in similar tropical clinates like locals in tropical parts of East Asia like Philippines.

[Trouble]

Yep. Also many Natives have Caucasoid-like features that Filipinos and other SE Asians do not have which is from their ANE ancestry.

I wonder if Istmids developed broad round face with round eyes, big flat nose and thick lips as a result of convergent evolution from living in similar tropical clinates like locals in tropical parts of East Asia like Philippines.
Where do these Amazon natives pass

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4_k5HuDTk3Q

[Maguzanci]

Where do these Amazon natives pass

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4_k5HuDTk3Q

Some of them look alien and might not pass anywhere else. While others look more like Tibeto Burman hill tribes who lives in peripheral parts of NE India, Burma, and maybe Yunnan than passing in most of SE Asia.

[Trouble]

Some of them look alien and might not pass anywhere else. While others look more like Tibeto Burman hill tribes who lives in peripheral parts of NE India, Burma, and maybe Yunnan than passing in most of SE Asia.

The two young men in the beginning of the video look similar to yourself.

[Maguzanci]

Completely Agree.

Also I notice Andids look fairly unique from other Native Americans with their sharp aquiline nose and long slender horsey face with small eyes. This sometimes makes them look pseudo Siberian/Mongolic, Central Asian or Tibetan-like. Many of them also look gives Caucasoid vibes with lighter skin.

SE Asians definitely wouldn't be able to pass or blend in among Andids and vice versa.

I notice most other Latin American Natives don't have these phenos except maybe Pueblids and some Margids.

Is this a result of natural selection from dwelling in the freezing cold highlands of the Andes that leads to these traits and simulating similar climatic conditions to their Siberian homeland?

What do you think? If you watch the video from 4:00 minutes onward, you will notice some Quechua little girls look sort of Caucasoid-ish or Tibetan-ish while the wife and mother gives Siberian vibes.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qB7uP28Ep6Q

[Maguzanci]

The two young men in the beginning of the video look similar to yourself.

Really? You remember how I look like?

[Trouble]

Really? You remember how I look like?

Yes

[Mortimer]

Some atypical not really and not as group

[Maguzanci]

Yes

K.

Do you know answer to this? https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?324668-How-much-Basal-Eurasian-do-South-Asians-have

[Trouble]

K.

Do you know answer to this? https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?324668-How-much-Basal-Eurasian-do-South-Asians-have

No

[GaneshD'Souza]

Like many people said, many individuals can pass, but as a group no. Here's a group of Filipinos.

A couple of them can pass as Latino, but the group as a whole cannot
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/05/03/07/2842BCD600000578-0-image-a-137_1430634222212.jpg

Here's some individual Filipinos who have phenotypes common in poor Filipinos. I think they can pass as Latino (mostly triracials) by coincidence
https://i.ibb.co/Cb6WxMZ/bern.png
https://i.ibb.co/RTJXpL5/20190205-elections-senator-2726.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/jZfXjzK/Carissa-Alvarado-2014-Billboard-Music-Awards-L0-Hn-YLG9-AN2l.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/Rbt59H7/86970077-3127488043929314-8556733932161204224-o.png
https://i.ibb.co/t2VCT40/sass.png

The guy can pass as Latino, but not the girl. The guy has a typical poor Filipino phenotype, the girl looks middle class
https://i.ibb.co/w7M8YCc/15391096-1837934116491415-846679827972185661-n.jpg

One of my cousins who has 23andme results. She's only 0.7% European, 0.2% Native American. The rest is Asian (mostly Filipino). But I've posted her pic here before and people said she could pass as triracial Latina
https://i.ibb.co/Z1bjrkp/0-4per.png

She doesn't have any recent Spanish ancestry, but she looks Latina
https://i.ibb.co/r50mFjQ/mv-1.jpg

Her parents. They look like the types of Filipinos you see in poorer, rural areas
https://i.ibb.co/K6BTkC8/9575d546cd5df29dadff865d62286be3.jpg

Here's another one who looks borderline mestizo but doesn't have recent Spanish ancestry
https://i.ibb.co/qm7XYrc/71844916-2662315493858389-2579191132351360252-n.jpg

These next two girls are common Filipina phenotype and I think they can pass as Latina. They don't have enough European DNA to have an affect on their phenotype. I think it's just a coincidence that they look Latina
https://i.ibb.co/nCk1QyQ/sfsdg.png
https://i.redd.it/4zt4h4e7u1v41.png


These women don't have enough European ancestry to be true mestizas, but I think they can pass as mestizas
https://i.redd.it/k3fb15vrq4t41.jpg
https://i.redd.it/ql11id0chpu41.jpg
https://i.redd.it/59qwo4aod0t41.png


And then there are actual white-passing Filipinos of Spanish-descent, but these types are rare and often mistaken as tourists

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0GxyeAEdzlo

[Maguzanci]

....

Not sure about the boxer. Many Latin American users think he cannot pass. The third guy with the cap and the first girl still have that clearly Asian vibe to pass though.

Has the guy who look borderline Mestizo done DNA test? It might not be recent but it could significant like 15% as a result of multigenerational mixture especially if his family is endogamous.

[GaneshD'Souza]

My cousin's school in Manila. It's technically a Catholic school, but it's in a very rough area, so these are just regular middle-class Filipinos. There's a mix of very Southeast Asian-looking people, some Latino-looking, and some East Asian-looking.

I would turn off the sound completely. There's weird music

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TfBc6wUDIw0

I only watched the first class (about 2 and a 1/2 minutes of the video). But I think the ones who could pass as Latino are at :27 (maybe?), :30, :34, :58, 1:08 (as indigena mixed with black), 1:12 (maybe?), 1:27, 1:31, 1:58, 2:16, 2:23 (maybe?). So that's a pretty big chunk of students, and that's just a regular middle-class school

[GaneshD'Souza]

Not sure about the boxer. Many Latin American users think he cannot pass. The third guy with the cap and the first girl still have that clearly Asian vibe to pass though.

Has the guy who look borderline Mestizo done DNA test? It might not be recent but it could significant like 15% as a result of multigenerational mixture especially if his family is endogamous.

I think the boxer could be indigenous mixed with black, which would explain the nose. Here's another angle
https://i.ibb.co/VWG6STn/bern.png
Remember that Indigenous Latinos can also have African admixture, so that can give them similar noses to Filipinos.

And can you unquote all the photos? It makes the thread unnecessarily long. Thanks

[Trouble]

Not sure about the boxer. Many Latin American users think he cannot pass. The third guy with the cap and the first girl still have that clearly Asian vibe to pass though.

Has the guy who look borderline Mestizo done DNA test? It might not be recent but it could significant like 15% as a result of multigenerational mixture especially if his family is endogamous.

The guy with the black hat can definitely pass. Indisputable

[Maguzanci]

The guy with the black hat can definitely pass. Indisputable

Something about his features screams Asian to me. Maybe it his light skin combined with smaller eyes.

[Morena]

I think it depends on where. People from certain parts of SEA have similar features to pred. Mestizo hispanics.

[Maguzanci]

I think it depends on where. People from certain parts of SEA have similar features to pred. Mestizo hispanics.

Is it because of the dark brown skin, straight hair, very round face, big flat nose, deep set eyes and big thick lips and being short stature that both groups shared?

[Morena]

Is it because of the dark brown skin, straight hair, very round face, big flat nose, deep set eyes and big thick lips and being short stature that both groups shared?

It depends. Most metizos don't have flat noses. It has to do with hair, skin, and eye shape.

[Maguzanci]

It depends. Most metizos don't have flat noses. It has to do with hair, skin, and eye shape.

So the superficial similarities come from straight hair, dark skin and deep round eyes? How about round face?

[Morena]

So the superficial similarities come from straight hair, dark skin and deep round eyes? How about round face?

Depends on the place of origin. Some native groups have rounder faces than others. Some have sharp, square faces. It really depends on the individual.

[Duffmannn]

As a crowd no, never, in both directions.

Many pass individually because they have a similar base: mongoloid-asiatic genetical base, a similar brown skin, black hair, low stature.

But this only works for full non-andid amerindians (these have a distinct aspect), which are not abundant nowadays.

[GaneshD'Souza]

As a crowd no, never, in both directions.

Many pass individually because they have a similar base: mongoloid-asiatic genetical base, a similar brown skin, black hair, low stature.

But this only works for full non-andid amerindians (these have a distinct aspect), which are not abundant nowadays.

They don't have to be full Amerindian to pass

This guy is Mexican living in the Philippines and he often says people mistake him as Filipino

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jO_sjZ5OF80

This woman is also Mexican living in the Philippines. She also says people mistake her as Filipino. The daughter is half Japanese, thats why she looks Asian. But the mother is full Mexican

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e1AOnGBQEs8

He's Mexican-American (but full Mexican-descent) living in the Philippines. Says he's mistaken as Filipino

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CvVX7b1GeNU

^ I highly doubt any of those are full Amerindian

The woman is Nicaraguan, looks triracial. She said that people talked to her in Tagalog all the time when she was in the Philippines

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p09AayLcVVg

A lot of Filipinos end up looking similar to triracial Latinos, not full Amerindian Latinos

[GaneshD'Souza]

....

Not sure about the boxer. Many Latin American users think he cannot pass. The third guy with the cap and the first girl still have that clearly Asian vibe to pass though.

Has the guy who look borderline Mestizo done DNA test? It might not be recent but it could significant like 15% as a result of multigenerational mixture especially if his family is endogamous.

His parents look slightly mixed, but nowhere close to mestizo range.
https://i.ibb.co/nQ7bfrj/79538911-2540504552744799-7518815520499139855-n.png
https://i.ibb.co/vPY4jBK/thh.png

They're within the range of average-looking Filipinos. He is randomly outside the range of average-looking Filipino. We'd call him a mestizo, but people might still talk to him in Tagalog. I find that many "mestizos" in the Philippines come from families of regular-looking Filipinos, so maybe it's distant throwback Spanish genes that back them look mestizo. That's why you can see mestizo-looking people (especially men) randomly dispersed throughout society, not necessarily concentrated in the upper-class

Ignoring his parents' phenotypes, what phenotype would you consider him? He looks kinda Indian to me
https://i.ibb.co/cLdQbFX/dfsg.png
https://i.ibb.co/X7C4dD3/sdtg.png

[Tooting Carmen]

Iranian?

[Maguzanci]

As a crowd no, never, in both directions.

Many pass individually because they have a similar base: mongoloid-asiatic genetical base, a similar brown skin, black hair, low stature.

But this only works for full non-andid amerindians (these have a distinct aspect), which are not abundant nowadays.

It’s as if It were the destinies by Mother Nature for non-Andid amerindians to become critically endangered/wipe out or something; those who look the most pseudo SE Asian died out while those who look distinctly Amerindian survive, thrive and pass their genes to the next generation...

[Maguzanci]

Maybe atypical NW Indian? Can you post Pinoys who doesn’t have recent Euro ancestry and look South Asian or MENA/West Asian?

[GaneshD'Souza]

Maybe atypical NW Indian? Can you post Pinoys who doesn’t have recent Euro ancestry and look South Asian or MENA/West Asian?

The guy I just posted...

[Trouble]

The guy I just posted...

How do we know you are telling the truth?

[GaneshD'Souza]

How do we know you are telling the truth?

Look at his parents and siblings. Do they look like they have recent Spanish ancestry?

https://i.ibb.co/vPY4jBK/thh.png
https://i.ibb.co/nQ7bfrj/79538911-2540504552744799-7518815520499139855-n.png

They look like regular Filipinos you see in the street. They probably do have Spanish ancestry but it's not recent

[Maguzanci]

The guy I just posted...

Well post more please. Wanna see more examples of Pinoy who can pass as these two aforementioned groups. The guy might pass as only a very atypical NW South Asian. If you want expert opinions, inquire Borealis or Thambi.

[GaneshD'Souza]

Well post more please. Wanna see more examples of Pinoy who can pass as these two aforementioned groups. The guy might pass as only a very atypical NW South Asian. If you want expert opinions, inquire Borealis or Thambi.

No. It's really rare for Filipinos to pass as NW South Asian.

The only other example I can think of right now come from Spanish mestizo families in the Philippines..
https://i.ibb.co/W6YVsqJ/katarina-rodriguez-nm.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/PTtF2WG/30724365-10155608418907921-453887977723002880-o.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/tP3WQH2/18301812-1997217473829893-8989754682132748532-n.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/3d7f79m/9006-10152618939527405-4363250397108027119-n.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/CMy1fzQ/Monique-Lhuillier-Salon-Opening-Arrivals-Inside-Yg-XJYz-IWAJ1x.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/X8V0wfZ/razon-696x993.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/GsX4PbS/2016-11-10-13-13-08-Lucy-Torres-Richard-Gomez.jpg

^ I don't know if all of them can pass as Indian or Pakistani. You tell me. Those types are not common in the Philippines, obviously.

It's more common for some poor (homeless) Filipinos and tribal groups to look Southern South Asian or Bengali.
https://live.staticflickr.com/3946/32850380854_ba6392d33f_b.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/Xs7TG1j/matigsalug.png
https://i.ibb.co/0G9rFP2/33572334862-d2137ef2d1-b.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/BwpbHyL/as.png
https://live.staticflickr.com/4856/45820142852_a923bebd2e_b.jpg
https://live.staticflickr.com/5785/21639452295_0e145eae6b_b.jpg
https://live.staticflickr.com/7165/26847409612_f071ac4356_b.jpg
https://live.staticflickr.com/379/20393300205_5b09e2ac5c_b.jpg
https://live.staticflickr.com/1581/25761302712_6770caa3c7_b.jpg

[Maguzanci]

No. It's really rare for Filipinos to pass as NW South Asian.

The only other example I can think of right now come from Spanish mestizo families in the Philippines..
https://i.ibb.co/W6YVsqJ/katarina-rodriguez-nm.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/PTtF2WG/30724365-10155608418907921-453887977723002880-o.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/tP3WQH2/18301812-1997217473829893-8989754682132748532-n.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/3d7f79m/9006-10152618939527405-4363250397108027119-n.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/CMy1fzQ/Monique-Lhuillier-Salon-Opening-Arrivals-Inside-Yg-XJYz-IWAJ1x.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/X8V0wfZ/razon-696x993.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/GsX4PbS/2016-11-10-13-13-08-Lucy-Torres-Richard-Gomez.jpg

^ I don't know if all of them can pass as Indian or Pakistani. You tell me. Those types are not common in the Philippines, obviously.

It's more common for some poor (homeless) Filipinos and tribal groups to look Southern South Asian or Bengali.
https://live.staticflickr.com/3946/32850380854_ba6392d33f_b.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/Xs7TG1j/matigsalug.png
https://i.ibb.co/0G9rFP2/33572334862-d2137ef2d1-b.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/BwpbHyL/as.png
https://live.staticflickr.com/4856/45820142852_a923bebd2e_b.jpg
https://live.staticflickr.com/5785/21639452295_0e145eae6b_b.jpg
https://live.staticflickr.com/7165/26847409612_f071ac4356_b.jpg
https://live.staticflickr.com/379/20393300205_5b09e2ac5c_b.jpg
https://live.staticflickr.com/1581/25761302712_6770caa3c7_b.jpg

The Spanish Mestizo individuals in pic 1,2,5 and 7 (the guy) might pass, not sure how typical tho. Thambi who is Indian and Lameduck who is Pakistani would know much better than me.How muhc indigenous admix do they have?

The poorer Filipino and tribal individuals don't pass among mainstream South Asians, but they might pass atypically among some dalits and adivasis/tribals like Munda/Austroasiatics. Btw, the guy with the cap in the last set of pics cannot pass in South Asia imo.

[chociprasa]

Some, but most can't. They pass better as Polynesians.

[Maguzanci]

Some, but most can't. They pass better as Polynesians.

And micronesians. Many SE Asians (not counting Vietnamese) can even pass as Southern Chinese.

[Maguzanci]

They don't have to be full Amerindian to pass

This guy is Mexican living in the Philippines and he often says people mistake him as Filipino

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jO_sjZ5OF80

This woman is also Mexican living in the Philippines. She also says people mistake her as Filipino. The daughter is half Japanese, thats why she looks Asian. But the mother is full Mexican

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e1AOnGBQEs8

He's Mexican-American (but full Mexican-descent) living in the Philippines. Says he's mistaken as Filipino

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CvVX7b1GeNU

^ I highly doubt any of those are full Amerindian

The woman is Nicaraguan, looks triracial. She said that people talked to her in Tagalog all the time when she was in the Philippines

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p09AayLcVVg

A lot of Filipinos end up looking similar to triracial Latinos, not full Amerindian Latinos

These are Amerindians and Indomestizos. I don't think any of them would pass as Pinoy and thus would stand out ; their features are too sharp, distinct and robust. I think Filipinos would be able to tell immediately that they are foreigners.

What do you think?

1.
https://www.telesurenglish.net/__export/1576269980464/sites/telesur/img/2019/12/13/download_x8x.jpeg_1718483346.jpeg

https://www.aljazeera.com/mritems/imagecache/mbdxxlarge/mritems/Images/2019/10/25/70823dac2ffb4747890b3426d8827964_18.jpg

2.
http://atxfestival.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/Panelist-Gerardo-Taracena-761x1024.jpg

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSXoGJ2HA5ncQd3EN8sdqXEPK1J1BjYu CbsMduvrvOX4qpq8fEW&s

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/DRVaDXqUmJw/maxresdefault.jpg

3.
https://portal.andina.pe/EDPfotografia3/Thumbnail/2016/08/03/000368708W.jpg

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/4b/8f/1c/4b8f1ccafd47fcd082b97e1a8d547e7b.jpg

4.
https://lastfm-img2.akamaized.net/i/u/300x300/1bbb38a8d0021e711768e93a8c31c563.png

http://www.laut.de/Soufian/soufian-178115.jpg

5.
https://i.imgur.com/XBfBuEt.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/lbtKvuc.jpg


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LWn-awsY2uA

6.
https://www.br.de/radio/bayern2/sendungen/kulturjournal/friedenspreis-des-deutschen-films-2013-fuer-das-maedchen-wadjda-100~_v-img__16__9__m_-4423061158a17f4152aef84861ed0243214ae6e7.jpg?versi on=9896a

https://i.imgur.com/nlwBCVW.jpg

[Thetruth]

Hmmm in % that would be hard to calculate as I really dont know, but If I had to guess maybe 10%?.

Agree with everything else u said. Also most east asians tend to be really skinny and amerindians tend to be more thick or have some mass (not really talking about muscle). I actually made a thread comparing Latin American Mestizos and Filipino Mestizoa, it was quite interesting, go on my threads if u are interested.

Hmm, idk I’ve seen videos of Thai and Filipino people who say that they see resemblance between they’re people and more Amerindian shifted nations like Peru and Guatemala when they busted those countries. Peruvians got short stature and more slanted eyes in comparison to other Latinos, and not all of us got robust face so there’s that. Besides Peruvians in general lack beards like our neighbors and some of us can be just as slim as Filipinos, in contrast to idk say a Cuban or Puerto Rican who lack those features.

https://youtu.be/MQXFePp9amg (Skip to 3:40)

Of course Southeast Asians and Amerindian Latinos got different features but out of all Latino groups they probably pass better among us then other groups.

[Thetruth]

They don't have to be full Amerindian to pass

This guy is Mexican living in the Philippines and he often says people mistake him as Filipino

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jO_sjZ5OF80

This woman is also Mexican living in the Philippines. She also says people mistake her as Filipino. The daughter is half Japanese, thats why she looks Asian. But the mother is full Mexican

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e1AOnGBQEs8

He's Mexican-American (but full Mexican-descent) living in the Philippines. Says he's mistaken as Filipino

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CvVX7b1GeNU

^ I highly doubt any of those are full Amerindian

The woman is Nicaraguan, looks triracial. She said that people talked to her in Tagalog all the time when she was in the Philippines

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p09AayLcVVg

A lot of Filipinos end up looking similar to triracial Latinos, not full Amerindian Latinos

Not really I bet you that Nicaraguan woman is Indio-Mestizo, you guys pass easily among Amazonian natives and westernized Indio-Mestizos then Tri-Racial who usually look like light skin African Americans or mulattos tbh

That woman in the final video is defiantly leaning towards the Amerindian side

[Zanzibar]

Hmm, idk I’ve seen videos of Thai and Filipino people who say that they see resemblance between they’re people and more Amerindian shifted nations like Peru and Guatemala when they busted those countries. Peruvians got short stature and more slanted eyes in comparison to other Latinos, and not all of us got robust face so there’s that. Besides Peruvians in general lack beards like our neighbors and some of us can be just as slim as Filipinos, in contrast to idk say a Cuban or Puerto Rican who lack those features.

https://youtu.be/MQXFePp9amg (Skip to 3:40)

Of course Southeast Asians and Amerindian Latinos got different features but out of all Latino groups they probably pass better among us then other groups.

What would you say is the percentage of overlap between SE Asians and Peruvians, Guatemalans?

Yeah shared features such as short stature, black straight hair, tanned brown skin with slim skinny bodies can cause these resemblances. Having robust face with refined features like sharp hook nose, longer face, thinner lips and robust jaws makes Peruvians stand out from SE Asians indeed.

Do Chileans even the Indomestizos tend to have more facial hair than Peruvians? Are Cubans, Puerto Ricans and most other Latinos in general more stocky compared to Peruvians?

[Tsuin]

Margid Indo-mestizos can resemble Proto-Malayid SE asians but Polynesians and Taiwanese natives can pass as Amerindians/Indo-mestizos much more so. Some examples: Hawaiian native108592

Mesoamerican native108593

Taiwanese-American baseball player Tzu-Wei Lin108594

Nahuan native 108595

[Thetruth]

What would you say is the percentage of overlap between SE Asians and Peruvians, Guatemalans?

Yeah shared features such as short stature, black straight hair, tanned brown skin with slim skinny bodies can cause these resemblances. Having robust face with refined features like sharp hook nose, longer face, thinner lips and robust jaws makes Peruvians stand out from SE Asians indeed.

Do Chileans even the Indomestizos tend to have more facial hair than Peruvians? Are Cubans, Puerto Ricans and most other Latinos in general more stocky compared to Peruvians?

Chileans have more facial hair along with Cubans especially because they have much more Iberian ancestry compared to Peruvians. Since Peruvians are short and if we do get fat we get that stocky body that’s so famous around these parts. Peruvians are some of the most hairless Latinos you will ever meet even the men

https://www.instagram.com/reel/CMOCnguBTt0/?utm_medium=copy_link

https://www.instagram.com/p/CJFMoC9BbJ7/?utm_medium=copy_link

these are average Peruvian men. If Peruvians put nearly have as much effort into they’re faces the way East and Southeast Asians do with plastic surgery, then our faces wouldn’t be as robust since plastic surgery isn’t much of a thing here.

https://youtu.be/F1grwELnV5Y

Here’s a indio-mestizo Central American transgender woman who has put a lot of effort into her look. She passes just as easily as many southeast Asians trans women do and doesn’t have a robust face. But rather infantile features

At the end, we’re different ethnic groups so we’re gonna have different features anyways but if I had to say one ethnic group that does resemble us pretty easily it would definitely be Southeast Asians to an extent. I would show pictures of my family to even show you but I don’t feel comfortable doing that on this fourm

[Zanzibar]

Chileans have more facial hair along with Cubans especially because they have much more Iberian ancestry compared to Peruvians. Since Peruvians are short and if we do get fat we get that stocky body that’s so famous around these parts. Peruvians are some of the most hairless Latinos you will ever meet even the men

https://www.instagram.com/reel/CMOCnguBTt0/?utm_medium=copy_link

https://www.instagram.com/p/CJFMoC9BbJ7/?utm_medium=copy_link

these are average Peruvian men. If Peruvians put nearly have as much effort into they’re faces the way East and Southeast Asians do with plastic surgery, then our faces wouldn’t be as robust since plastic surgery isn’t much of a thing here.

https://youtu.be/F1grwELnV5Y

Here’s a indio-mestizo Central American transgender woman who has put a lot of effort into her look. She passes just as easily as many southeast Asians trans women do and doesn’t have a robust face. But rather infantile features

At the end, we’re different ethnic groups so we’re gonna have different features anyways but if I had to say one ethnic group that does resemble us pretty easily it would definitely be Southeast Asians to an extent. I would show pictures of my family to even show you but I don’t feel comfortable doing that on this fourm

Ah ok. Would you say less than 5% of Peruvian males can grow facial hair? So what are the other differences in features between Peruvians and SE Asians besides the robust face? ?

Who would you say resemble SE Asians more: Guatemalans and Peruvians?

I would say Tibetans, Nepalis resemble Peruvians even more than Southeast Asians tbh from the pictures that I saw. Also many Hazaras from Afghanistan who are descendant of Mongols can resemble Peruvians as well.

[Thetruth]

Ah ok. Would you say less than 5% of Peruvian males can grow facial hair? So what are the other differences in features between Peruvians and SE Asians besides the robust face? ?

Who would you say resemble SE Asians more: Guatemalans and Peruvians?

I would say Tibetans, Nepalis resemble Peruvians even more than Southeast Asians tbh from the pictures that I saw. Also many Hazaras from Afghanistan who are descendant of Mongols can resemble Peruvians as well.

Depends I’d say at least 15% got full beards like that, full beards like Europeans, Middle Easterners and South Asians just isn’t really a thing in Peru. The differences like everyone else’s has said are that Peruvians in general have sharper and more angular features because beside that we have plenty of similar features tbh. Some people on here say we resemble Indians but I don’t think so considering they’re eyes in general are rounder and they’re beards are thicker.

I’d say southeast Asians resemble Amazonian Peruvians more then Andean Peruvians but resemble Guatemalans even more. I guess we would have some semblance to other mongoloid mountain people from Asia and people with proximity to them.

[guyinsf]

On some occasions there are some Indonesians, Filipinos and Cambodians that might pass in Latin America as those who have some indigenous blood in them but definitely not the Vietnamese who tend to lean a tad more towards East Asian looking than the other southeast Asians.

[Homo Insapiens]

Can’t just about anyone pass in Latin America?

Remember, passing is not the same as looking typical.

Besides, there’s always people who don’t fit into the norm.

[Homo Insapiens]

Can’t just about anyone pass in Latin America?

Remember, passing is not the same as looking typical.

Besides, there’s always been people who don’t fit into the norm.

[Zanzibar]

Can’t just about anyone pass in Latin America?

Remember, passing is not the same as looking typical.

Besides, there’s always people who don’t fit into the norm.

I don't think Andamanese, South Sudanese Blue Black Nilotes, Bougainville Melanesians who are literally dark as night, very black skin Indians, Central African pygmies, Siberians including Uralids can pass. They look too unique/distinct that no one else in the world can copy their phenos imo.

[Homo Insapiens]

I don't think Andamanese, South Sudanese Blue Black Nilotes, Bougainville Melanesians who are literally dark as night, very black skin Indians, Central African pygmies, Siberians including Uralids can pass. They look too unique/distinct that no one else in the world can copy their phenos imo.

Can’t they? They might not look typical, they might even stick out, but is there absolutely no way that they could hypothetically lie that they’re from there?

Latin America is where all three major races meet. The only other place I can think of where that happened is India. Maybe the Middle East too to a lesser degree.

I’ve heard of Bougainville and Solomon Islanders being very dark as well, but when I google them they don’t look so dark to me, just shades of brown.

I haven’t been to either region yet so can only refer to photos and videos.

[Zanzibar]

Can’t they? They might not look typical, they might even stick out, but is there absolutely no way that they could hypothetically lie that they’re from there?

Latin America is where all three major races meet. The only other place I can think of where that happened is India. Maybe the Middle East too to a lesser degree.

I haven’t been to either region yet so can only refer to photos and videos.

I'm not sure but I don't think they can lie. This is especially when they open their mouths to speak. For example, I heard that Andean natives really stick out in Brazil; that locals know they are foreigners immediately when saw them. So I don't think those groups will even be able to lie.

[Thetruth]

I'm not sure but I don't think they can lie. This is especially when they open their mouths to speak. For example, I heard that Andean natives really stick out in Brazil; that locals know they are foreigners immediately when saw them. So I don't think those groups will even be able to lie.

I hear Brazilians bullshit people with that whole anybody can pass in Brazil mantra all the time tbh

[Sasaolo68]

I hear Brazilians bullshit people with that whole anybody can pass in Brazil mantra all the time tbhBut how is that any wrong?? Anybody can pass in Brazil easily, from East Asians to Middle Easterns to even Northern Europeans, and i can tell you some Andeans can pass in Brazil for sure.

[Thetruth]

But how is that any wrong?? Anybody can pass in Brazil easily, from East Asians to Middle Easterns to even Northern Europeans, and i can tell you some Andeans can pass in Brazil for sure.

Okay all Andeans can pass as Brazilians they just gotta dress and adapt to a Brazilian lifestyle first. That’s my theory

We look more like Brazilians then people from India do and they always constantly act like Indians pass easier I’m Brazil then people from Peru, Ecuador and Bolivia

[Sasaolo68]

Okay all Andeans can pass as Brazilians they just gotta dress and adapt to a Brazilian lifestyle first. That’s my theory

We look more like Brazilians then people from India do and they always constantly act like Indians pass easier I’m Brazil then people from Peru, Ecuador and Bolivia

Indians are less likely to pass in Brazil than Peruvians, Ecuadorians and Bolivians IMO, but they can pass in Brazil also, i have seen some pseudo-Indian people here.

That brazilian here could pass as a light Bolivian IMO:
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTI2jfxdxXkal2GstBVNigei_SKrzzeA z9WNw&usqp=CAU

[Thetruth]

Indians are less likely to pass in Brazil than Peruvians, Ecuadorians and Bolivians IMO, but they can pass in Brazil also, i have seen some pseudo-Indian people here.

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I have too, although for some reason they seem to cast just any Brazilian actor in Brazilian novelas for people from Andean countries, and attractive ones too. Like Isis Valverde playing a Boliviana en Avenida Brasil.

[Latinus]

Okay all Andeans can pass as Brazilians they just gotta dress and adapt to a Brazilian lifestyle first. That’s my theory

We look more like Brazilians then people from India do and they always constantly act like Indians pass easier I’m Brazil then people from Peru, Ecuador and Bolivia

In my opinion, Indians pass better in Brazil than Indo-Mestizos from Peru, Ecuador and Bolivia.

At least from my experience, when we see those Andid faces here, we immediately say: "oh, peruano, boliviano..."

Many Indians have a pan-brown phenotype that easily blend in here, like this one:
https://akm-img-a-in.tosshub.com/businesstoday/images/story/201610/shachi-irde_660_100516091558.jpg

[Thetruth]

In my opinion, Indians pass better in Brazil than Indo-Mestizos from Peru, Ecuador and Bolivia.

At least from my experience, when we see those Andid faces here, we immediately say: "oh, peruano, boliviano..."

Many Indians have a pan-brown phenotype that easily blend in here, like this one:
https://akm-img-a-in.tosshub.com/businesstoday/images/story/201610/shachi-irde_660_100516091558.jpg

Even the light skinned Peruvian and Bolivians ? Isis Valverde kinda looks like one in some pictures

I’ve even heard some Brazilians say some Filipinos look like them more then people from Andean countries which is kinda ridiculous. Also that’s generalizing all Indians, they’re features kinda stand out next to many Brazilians, except Juliana Paes ofc

[Latinus]

Even the light skinned Peruvian and Bolivians ? Isis Valverde kinda looks like one in some pictures

These might pass better.

[Thetruth]

Who pass better

https://www.alamy.com/2-two-young-teenage-indian-girls-smile-and-pose-for-the-camera-during-lessons-at-a-state-school-in-india-image237478364.html


https://www.alamy.com/stock-photo-teenage-peruvian-girls-walking-in-central-park-of-the-miraflores-district-37217924.html?pv=1&stamp=2&imageid=09BBF385-F098-4138-AE52-F59DB9018875&p=6308&n=0&orientation=0&pn=1&searchtype=0&IsFromSearch=1&srch=foo%3dbar%26st%3d0%26pn%3d1%26ps%3d100%26sort by%3d2%26resultview%3dsortbyPopular%26npgs%3d0%26q t%3dperuvian%2520girls%26qt_raw%3dperuvian%2520gir ls%26lic%3d3%26mr%3d0%26pr%3d0%26ot%3d0%26creative %3d%26ag%3d0%26hc%3d0%26pc%3d%26blackwhite%3d%26cu tout%3d%26tbar%3d1%26et%3d0x000000000000000000000% 26vp%3d0%26loc%3d0%26imgt%3d0%26dtfr%3d%26dtto%3d% 26size%3d0xFF%26archive%3d1%26groupid%3d%26pseudoi d%3d%26a%3d%26cdid%3d%26cdsrt%3d%26name%3d%26qn%3d %26apalib%3d%26apalic%3d%26lightbox%3d%26gname%3d% 26gtype%3d%26xstx%3d0%26simid%3d%26saveQry%3d%26ed itorial%3d1%26nu%3d%26t%3d%26edoptin%3d%26customge oip%3d%26cap%3d1%26cbstore%3d1%26vd%3d0%26lb%3d%26 fi%3d2%26edrf%3d%26ispremium%3d1%26flip%3d0%26pl%3 d

[Thetruth]

https://www.alamy.com/peruvian-girls-dressed-in-traditional-celebratory-garb-meet-visitors-with-music-and-dancing-in-the-peruvian-amazon-image354833461.html?pv=1&stamp=2&imageid=94507FA9-98FA-430F-B2CF-4C8C6A8A4C35&p=466570&n=0&orientation=0&pn=1&searchtype=0&IsFromSearch=1&srch=foo%3dbar%26st%3d0%26pn%3d1%26ps%3d100%26sort by%3d2%26resultview%3dsortbyPopular%26npgs%3d0%26q t%3dperuvian%2520girls%26qt_raw%3dperuvian%2520gir ls%26lic%3d3%26mr%3d0%26pr%3d0%26ot%3d0%26creative %3d%26ag%3d0%26hc%3d0%26pc%3d%26blackwhite%3d%26cu tout%3d%26tbar%3d1%26et%3d0x000000000000000000000% 26vp%3d0%26loc%3d0%26imgt%3d0%26dtfr%3d%26dtto%3d% 26size%3d0xFF%26archive%3d1%26groupid%3d%26pseudoi d%3d%26a%3d%26cdid%3d%26cdsrt%3d%26name%3d%26qn%3d %26apalib%3d%26apalic%3d%26lightbox%3d%26gname%3d% 26gtype%3d%26xstx%3d0%26simid%3d%26saveQry%3d%26ed itorial%3d1%26nu%3d%26t%3d%26edoptin%3d%26customge oip%3d%26cap%3d1%26cbstore%3d1%26vd%3d0%26lb%3d%26 fi%3d2%26edrf%3d%26ispremium%3d1%26flip%3d0%26pl%3 d

https://www.alamy.com/voung-peruvian-girls-with-tradtional-dresses-during-a-procession-in-image69220883.html?pv=1&stamp=2&imageid=4E5642CD-08FB-4E45-A366-42C1E883E255&p=174984&n=0&orientation=0&pn=1&searchtype=0&IsFromSearch=1&srch=foo%3dbar%26st%3d0%26pn%3d1%26ps%3d100%26sort by%3d2%26resultview%3dsortbyPopular%26npgs%3d0%26q t%3dperuvian%2520girls%26qt_raw%3dperuvian%2520gir ls%26lic%3d3%26mr%3d0%26pr%3d0%26ot%3d0%26creative %3d%26ag%3d0%26hc%3d0%26pc%3d%26blackwhite%3d%26cu tout%3d%26tbar%3d1%26et%3d0x000000000000000000000% 26vp%3d0%26loc%3d0%26imgt%3d0%26dtfr%3d%26dtto%3d% 26size%3d0xFF%26archive%3d1%26groupid%3d%26pseudoi d%3d%26a%3d%26cdid%3d%26cdsrt%3d%26name%3d%26qn%3d %26apalib%3d%26apalic%3d%26lightbox%3d%26gname%3d% 26gtype%3d%26xstx%3d0%26simid%3d%26saveQry%3d%26ed itorial%3d1%26nu%3d%26t%3d%26edoptin%3d%26customge oip%3d%26cap%3d1%26cbstore%3d1%26vd%3d0%26lb%3d%26 fi%3d2%26edrf%3d%26ispremium%3d1%26flip%3d0%26pl%3 d

[Thetruth]

Patiently waiting for Globo to make a novela centered around Peru just to see who they’re gonna cast lol

[Sasaolo68]

Patiently waiting for Globo to make a novela centered around Peru just to see who they’re gonna cast lolI think they would cast Regina Casé as some older Peruvian and probably Isis Valverde again as a Peruvian girl LMAO.

[Thetruth]

I think they would cast Regina Casé as some older Peruvian and probably Isis Valverde again as a Peruvian girl LMAO.

She played a Bolivian not a Peruvian.

[TheWolf97]

Amerindians pass best

[Latinus]

She played a Bolivian not a Peruvian.

I watched Avenida Brasil, but I didn't know her character had Bolivian ancestry.

Anyway, Globo is famous for whitewashing the cast when it comes to setting stories on a non-European universe, like Egypt, Morocco, India, and even Japan.

Wouldn't be surprised if they cast mainly white actors to play the role of Peruvians.

[Thetruth]

I watched Avenida Brasil, but I didn't know her character had Bolivian ancestry.

Anyway, Globo is famous for whitewashing the cast when it comes to setting stories on a non-European universe, like Egypt, Morocco, India, and even Japan.

Wouldn't be surprised if they cast mainly white actors to play the role of Peruvians.

Really even caminho das India’s ? Idk Juliana paes looks pretty stereotypical brown Indian too me

[Latinus]

Really even caminho das India’s ? Idk Juliana paes looks pretty stereotypical brown Indian too me

Juliana pass. But some of the other actors that played Indians are clearly off.

[Thetruth]

Juliana pass. But some of the other actors that played Indians are clearly off.

I didn’t watch it I just know she was in it, as for Peru we have our fair share of White Iberians so I wouldn’t say it would be totally off either, it’s basically how whites are overrepresented in South Africa even though they’re only 8 percent of the population

[Zanzibar]

I hear Brazilians bullshit people with that whole anybody can pass in Brazil mantra all the time tbh

That's what I heard as well and I don't think its necessarily true or apply to everyone (maybe most groups but definitely not every population/race out there).

[Zanzibar]

But how is that any wrong?? Anybody can pass in Brazil easily, from East Asians to Middle Easterns to even Northern Europeans, and i can tell you some Andeans can pass in Brazil for sure.

I don't think the Andamanese who are very short and literal black (they are blacker than SSAs), Nilotic tribes, Bougainville Melanesians who have totally black skin and look very distinct, Central African pygmies, Khoisans, Siberians like Uralids and Sibirids can pass imo. These groups look too distinct/unique that I don't think anyone else on the planet can duplicate their phenos imo.

[Thetruth]

That's what I heard as well and I don't think its necessarily true or apply to everyone (maybe most groups but definitely not every population/race out there).

True but I think it’s bullshit when they apply it to Peruvians and other people from Andean countries as if we don’t border them and look like they’re indigenous population and the white/euro side is more or less the same. If anything Hispanics are the closest people to looking like Brazilians even over Middle Eastern and Indian people and I think they know that.