MyOrigins 3.0 Will start updating Today!

[walid]

https://scontent.frba2-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.15752-9/102736248_710785769685171_2721683456504365056_n.jp g?_nc_cat=101&_nc_sid=b96e70&_nc_ohc=pRUDbZmgwmgAX_KIf7T&_nc_ht=scontent.frba2-2.fna&oh=a39802f36f4870c6503e45340887e273&oe=5F01F5BF

https://scontent.frba2-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.15752-9/101947598_397288457894951_1363175461009489920_n.jp g?_nc_cat=109&_nc_sid=b96e70&_nc_ohc=09oVYf-oMMkAX9Ldt4E&_nc_ht=scontent.frba2-2.fna&oh=05ee85f903ea406cca0032bf8e552c5e&oe=5EFE6EE2

https://scontent.frba2-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.15752-9/101880332_1357294274660246_6345593637564317696_n.j pg?_nc_cat=105&_nc_sid=b96e70&_nc_ohc=DwT3uIHAaQMAX-a3JqZ&_nc_ht=scontent.frba2-1.fna&oh=06fb8ddd030a0bf323598a580d04d199&oe=5F008219

Source : Facebook

[CommonSense]

Great news, I'm looking foward to seeing how they've handled it.

[Dean K]

Wow I waited for that so many time

[Leto]

Great news. I manage four kits, so I'm very excited to see what they have prepared for us.

[Kaspias]

I have no hope

[Luso]

this is for Family Tree DNA?

[walid]

I have no hope

Why?

[walid]

this is for Family Tree DNA?

Yes

[Luso]

Yes

Good, I've been waiting for an update for it for years...

[Kaspias]

Why?

There won't be any progress as long as they use modern samples for components formed thousands of years ago.

By the way, I can correct the news, I received the same e-mail from FTDNA.


Dear Group Project Administrators,

We are excited to announce the following updates that we will begin releasing today, June 5th, and in the coming weeks.

[Bosniensis]

I have no hope

It will take years to update :D

They might be right IT STARTS TODAY

1 client per day.

[Kaspias]

It will take years to update :D

They might be right IT STARTS TODAY

1 client per day.


Approximately 287,000 testers will display the update upon release next week.
The remainder of the database will be updated in waves.
Priority will be given to those who have most recently signed in to their kits.
Those who have not signed in for a year or more will be last to get the updated version of myOrigins.

[Bosniensis]

Approximately 287,000 testers will display the update upon release next week.
The remainder of the database will be updated in waves.
Priority will be given to those who have most recently signed in to their kits.
Those who have not signed in for a year or more will be last to get the updated version of myOrigins.


Is there an example how it looks like?

[Kaspias]

Is there an example how it looks like?

https://i0.wp.com/dna-explained.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/FTDNA-MyOrigins-2.png?resize=768%2C428&ssl=1
https://i0.wp.com/dna-explained.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/FTDNA-MyOrigins-3-pops.png?resize=768%2C415&ssl=1

[CommonSense]

Is there an example how it looks like?

We will get a Balkan category like on MyHeritage

[Luso]

https://i0.wp.com/dna-explained.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/FTDNA-MyOrigins-2.png?resize=768%2C428&ssl=1
https://i0.wp.com/dna-explained.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/FTDNA-MyOrigins-3-pops.png?resize=768%2C415&ssl=1

Jesus. I have a feeling results are still gonna be inaccurate at.

[Abdelnour]

Looks much more detailed.

[Kaspias]

Jesus. I have a feeling results are still gonna be inaccurate at.

The same tbh.

[Bosniensis]

We will get a Balkan category like on MyHeritage

They have separated Greeks, will be fun to see that part... especially considering Northern Greeks.

[Adamm]

https://i0.wp.com/dna-explained.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/FTDNA-MyOrigins-2.png?resize=768%2C428&ssl=1
https://i0.wp.com/dna-explained.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/FTDNA-MyOrigins-3-pops.png?resize=768%2C415&ssl=1

Wow this looks retarded and shit!

Mali and Morocco the same people?

[17571imre]

that German circle looks very big looks like its overlapping france, Denamark, South England and even the West of Poland if im not mistaken.

[walid]

Wow this looks retarded and shit!

Mali and Morocco the same people?

Yeah thats what i thought also , this is bullshit
and there is now 2 north african clusters

[Dean K]

Yeah thats what i thought also , this is bullshit
and there is now 2 north african clusters

One is Local North African. And the new is North African Jews.

[andre]

I hope that doesn’t confuse my Ashkenazi ancestry with anatolian, greek, south italian or others bullshits :)

[Nassbean]

Wow this looks retarded and shit!

Mali and Morocco the same people?

I think it's more about tuaregs

[Lucas]

I guess nobody got new results yet?

[Not a Cop]

Results of one of my grandfathers was updated (https://youtu.be/dQw4w9WgXcQ)

[Ion Basescul]

We will get a Balkan category like on MyHeritage

And a Hungary category from what I can see on the screenshot, which will screw the results for everyone in the region. Unless that's supposed to be Jewish.

[walid]

Results of one of my grandfathers was updated (https://youtu.be/dQw4w9WgXcQ)

Can you show us?

[Ion Basescul]

Can you show us?

Here (https://youtu.be/dQw4w9WgXcQ), he shared it with me.

[walid]

Here (https://youtu.be/dQw4w9WgXcQ), he shared it with me.

The results says 100% cringe then ��

[Hasien]

Does that mean there will be a new re-updated data? Therefore we would have to re-upload to Gedmatch as well?

[waam]

^ I don't think your data changes, just the way they calculate it...

Anyway I don't have very high hopes for this but still excited at the same time. I see they have a bunch of different populations for what other companies would lump together into West Asia/Caucasus/ICM (Iran, Turkey, Iraq, North and South Caucasus seem to be separated). Would be fun to see them mess it up (or nail it).

[Lucas]

Good that extremely broad Eastern Europe category will be divided to smaller clusters.

[Art23]

The jokes about getting results are lame. Next time I will give you -1.

[Jana]

It will be complete shit. Hungary as reference population lmao. Or Balkan. If they hired any of us ameteurs we would make million times better algorithm.
It makes me angry how stupid and incompetent they are. Fuck.

[Mr.G]

Anybody get updated yet?

[Luso]

Anybody get updated yet?

nope not yet, probably never Lol.

[Mr.G]

nope not yet, probably never Lol.

Well, I will probably be checking my account every 5 minutes, from now until never :p

[michal3141]

I wonder if I get my results updated. I've joined FTDNA by transfering my autosomal raw data from AncestryDNA.

[gixajo]

I wonder if I get my results updated. I've joined FTDNA by transfering my autosomal raw data from AncestryDNA.

Me too.

Edit:I transfered my raw data, but from Myheritage in my case.

[Leto]

No update for me yet.

[michal3141]

My results currently:

European
96%
East Europe
96%
Trace Results
Finland
<3%
Northeast Asia
<1%
North and Central America
<1%

BTW Finland not being in Europe I am pretty surprised ;)

It says:
Origins Version 2

[walid]

Me too.

Edit:I transfered my raw data, but from Myheritage in my case.

yes i think so

[Mr.G]

I wonder if I get my results updated. I've joined FTDNA by transfering my autosomal raw data from AncestryDNA.

Yes, transfers get the update too

[JamesBond007]

I have no hope

I've completely given on all DNA tests. Of course, some say I'm genetically related to the Scottish but others to the English, Irish, Dutch etc....instead I've resorted to common sense to know my identify.

I guess they are useful if you want to some historical anthropological matching to ancient populations, like you like to do ,but I'm tired of that man.

[gixajo]

My results currently:

European
96%
East Europe
96%
Trace Results
Finland
<3%
Northeast Asia
<1%
North and Central America
<1%

BTW Finland not being in Europe I am pretty surprised ;)

It says:
Origins Version 2

Mine is V2 too.

https://i.imgur.com/vRpdPUw.png

[gixajo]

yes i think so

Was it accurate for you?

You use to have very consistent estimations.

[Defcon2]

They haven't updated me yet.

[gixajo]

I've completely given on all DNA tests. Of course, some say I'm genetically related to the Scottish but others to the English, Irish, Dutch etc....instead I've resorted to common sense to know my identify.

I guess they are useful if you want to some historical anthropological matching to ancient populations, like you like to do ,but I'm tired of that man.

They are related populations, and you are from USA, unless you do a thorough genealogical research or those test and estimations improve, you will not get better answers.

I want only to know what is exactly my paternal haplogroup, and my curiosity about these issues will be satisfied.

[walid]

Was it accurate for you?

You use to have very consistent estimations.

You mean if my FTDNA results were accurate?

[Slavic Italian]

It will be complete shit. Hungary as reference population lmao. Or Balkan. If they hired any of us ameteurs we would make million times better algorithm.
It makes me angry how stupid and incompetent they are. Fuck.

I am sure you would Spears.

[Slavic Italian]

I've completely given on all DNA tests. Of course, some say I'm genetically related to the Scottish but others to the English, Irish, Dutch etc....instead I've resorted to common sense to know my identify.

I guess they are useful if you want to some historical anthropological matching to ancient populations, like you like to do ,but I'm tired of that man.

Me as well. I am going to change my handle to Sexy Dude.

[IrisSelene]

Aw.... I wonder when's 23andme and my heritage updating...

Enviado desde mi CLT-L09 mediante Tapatalk

[gixajo]

You mean if my FTDNA results were accurate?

Especifically for you.

[Vascontelo]

I am still waiting for the update. Do you want to bet the update's day? I mean, i really don't trust in FTDNA so my bet is that this update is not going to be ready this week.

[Turul Karom]

I unironically believe that the Hungarian members here (and friends) have put together better mapping and ancestry tools for Hungarians that we've all posted in various threads when looking at ancient and modern population influences in our DNA. I've even modeled Hungarian conqueror mtDNA from research papers. This FTDNA update is going to be painful if they are using MODERN HUNGARIANS as a reference of ancient ancestry from 1000+ years ago and not just as "what modern group do you cluster close to today". This is especially true if they are going to COMPLETELY NEGLECT our Central Asian/Turkic founder population.


Feiichy and Kaspias are 100% correct.

[Kaspias]

Haha!

Dear Group Project Administrators,

We are delaying the release of myOrigins 3.0. After discovering issues in the final stages of QA, we've made the difficult decision to postpone the release to avoid the risk of compromising the stability of our website as we work to address the issue.

When we have an expected launch date, we will let you know. We are working as quickly as possible to resolve all issues.

We apologize for any inconvenience and for the change in plans.
If you have any questions, please contact the FamilyTreeDNA Groups Team at groups@familytreedna.com.

Sincerely,
FamilyTreeDNA

[Luso]

I unironically believe that the Hungarian members here (and friends) have put together better mapping and ancestry tools for Hungarians that we've all posted in various threads when looking at ancient and modern population influences in our DNA. I've even modeled Hungarian conqueror mtDNA from research papers. This FTDNA update is going to be painful if they are using MODERN HUNGARIANS as a reference of ancient ancestry from 1000+ years ago and not just as "what modern group do you cluster close to today". This is especially true if they are going to COMPLETELY NEGLECT our Central Asian/Turkic founder population.


Feiichy and Kaspias are 100% correct.

I wouldn't doubt it.

[Mortimer]

Cool. I look forward. I didnt had any update so far.

[Luso]

Haha!

Dear Group Project Administrators,

We are delaying the release of myOrigins 3.0. After discovering issues in the final stages of QA, we've made the difficult decision to postpone the release to avoid the risk of compromising the stability of our website as we work to address the issue.

When we have an expected launch date, we will let you know. We are working as quickly as possible to resolve all issues.

We apologize for any inconvenience and for the change in plans.
If you have any questions, please contact the FamilyTreeDNA Groups Team at groups@familytreedna.com.

Sincerely,
FamilyTreeDNA

Lmao... so predictable.

[Lucas]

Haha!

Dear Group Project Administrators,

We are delaying the release of myOrigins 3.0. After discovering issues in the final stages of QA, we've made the difficult decision to postpone the release to avoid the risk of compromising the stability of our website as we work to address the issue.

When we have an expected launch date, we will let you know. We are working as quickly as possible to resolve all issues.

We apologize for any inconvenience and for the change in plans.
If you have any questions, please contact the FamilyTreeDNA Groups Team at groups@familytreedna.com.

Sincerely,
FamilyTreeDNA

Haha Why I'm not surprised at all:) It was expected since the begining, stupid fucks.

[walid]

How can i change the thread title

[Lucas]

How can i change the thread title

It's not your guilt.

[Ljubic]

I didnt even get the initial announcement mail while others get the fucking delay in message.

[Adamm]

Incompetent fucks, they have years to make this happen and they still fuck up.

[Slavic Italian]

I did not get any notice of any kind.

[Alenka]

Haha!

Dear Group Project Administrators,

We are delaying the release of myOrigins 3.0. After discovering issues in the final stages of QA, we've made the difficult decision to postpone the release to avoid the risk of compromising the stability of our website as we work to address the issue.

When we have an expected launch date, we will let you know. We are working as quickly as possible to resolve all issues.

We apologize for any inconvenience and for the change in plans.
If you have any questions, please contact the FamilyTreeDNA Groups Team at groups@familytreedna.com.

Sincerely,
FamilyTreeDNA


Lmao... so predictable.


Haha Why I'm not surprised at all:) It was expected since the begining, stupid fucks.


Incompetent fucks, they have years to make this happen and they still fuck up.
Maybe they saw this thread and got discouraged about updating by the comments of you bunch.
:picard1:
Perhaps it would've been better to wait and see what it's like before so harshly judging.
:shrug:
Just because it may not be perfect doesn't mean it wouldn't be an inprovement.

Hey Family Tree DNA, please come through with the update.
I'm very excited and curious to see the fresh spin in your interpretation of results.
:)

[Mr.G]

I think Alenka is on to something.. we blew it. We scared them off with our judginess! :)

[Leto]

Maybe they saw this thread and got discouraged about updating by the comments of you bunch.
:picard1:
Perhaps it would've been better to wait and see what it's like before so harshly judging.
:shrug:
Just because it may not be perfect doesn't mean it wouldn't be an inprovement.

Hey Family Tree DNA, please come through with the update.
I'm very excited and curious to see the fresh spin in your interpretation of results.
:)
Many people who commented in this thread didn't even buy the test, just a bunch of free(up)loaders.

[Pine]

Many people who commented in this thread didn't even buy the test, just a bunch of free(up)loaders.

The uploads aren't free.

[Turul Karom]

I think Alenka is on to something.. we blew it. We scared them off with our judginess! :)


It's well known that FTDNA higher-ups frequent the Apricity quite often for our nuanced opinions; they are especially fond of the "who's whiter?" threads.

[Annihilus]

So I logged into MyFTDNA to check for version 3 before reading here that it was postponed. I have a new highest match, it's Armenian lol

[Vascontelo]

I am having less and less matches every time. It's like less people are using this company and they prefer 23andme or another companies.

[Lucas]

I am having less and less matches every time. It's like less people are using this company and they prefer 23andme or another companies.

Impossible. Unless someone deleted his account but is very rare I guess. If someone just didn't logged for years it still be a match.

[Rocinante]

Many people who commented in this thread didn't even buy the test, just a bunch of free(up)loaders.

Where are the free upload option? I want it! Because i had to pay for it xD

[axel.aleman]

I don't receive the update yet

[Turul Karom]

I don't receive the update yet

You probably won't be getting it anytime soon. The company said that they have a few kinks to work out from the final quality assurance tests.

[Vascontelo]

Impossible. Unless someone deleted his account but is very rare I guess. If someone just didn't logged for years it still be a match.

Sorry, i wanted to say "new matches".

[Lucas]

Sorry, i wanted to say "new matches".

Oh yes. But in my case there are new matches still. I see also growing number of Polish matches at my top, comparing to what was three years go. Just Poles buy tests more frequently.

[Ljubic]

Fucc em bruh

[walid]

https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/facebook/000/028/007/Screen_Shot_2018-12-31_at_1.19.26_PM.jpg

[Leto]

Today is August, 1st. Where is the fucking update? FTDNA is a joke!

[Ljubic]

They think everyone forgot anyway

[Sofia]

Just chipping in to put a disclaimer that FTDNA is probably the worst DNA testing company that you can use.

I had the chance to buy 23AndMe for a friend of mine and it's better in every single way. They even give you better Y-DNA/mtDNA results and information than FTDNA, which charge 99 EUROS for Y-25 and even higher than that for ACTUALLY relevant Y-DNA marker count. The Autosomal results that FTDNA gives are absolutely unacceptable in 2020 and it's a sad story to look at. Their recent handling of myOrigins v3 is just another act in the FTDNA shitshow. The only redeeming quality is the group projects.

If I could turn back time I would never purchase anything from these dogshitters. I honestly feel duped by people and communities who were swearing by it last year. IDK maybe it was good 8 years ago...not now...

[Peloponnesian pride]

Just chipping in to put a disclaimer that FTDNA is probably the worst DNA testing company that you can use.

I had the chance to buy 23AndMe for a friend of mine and it's better in every single way. They even give you better Y-DNA/mtDNA results and information than FTDNA, which charge 99 EUROS for Y-25 and even higher than that for ACTUALLY relevant Y-DNA marker count. The Autosomal results that FTDNA gives are absolutely unacceptable in 2020 and it's a sad story to look at. Their recent handling of myOrigins v3 is just another act in the FTDNA shitshow. The only redeeming quality is the group projects.

If I could turn back time I would never purchase anything from these dogshitters. I honestly feel duped by people and communities who were swearing by it last year. IDK maybe it was good 8 years ago...not now...

Ελληνιδα?

[Sofia]

Ελληνιδα?

If you're asking me if I am Greek, I'm not.

[Peloponnesian pride]

If you're asking me if I am Greek, I'm not.

Yeah i asked you that,because your name is greek.It means wisdom.

[Slavic Italian]

Just chipping in to put a disclaimer that FTDNA is probably the worst DNA testing company that you can use.

I had the chance to buy 23AndMe for a friend of mine and it's better in every single way. They even give you better Y-DNA/mtDNA results and information than FTDNA, which charge 99 EUROS for Y-25 and even higher than that for ACTUALLY relevant Y-DNA marker count. The Autosomal results that FTDNA gives are absolutely unacceptable in 2020 and it's a sad story to look at. Their recent handling of myOrigins v3 is just another act in the FTDNA shitshow. The only redeeming quality is the group projects.

If I could turn back time I would never purchase anything from these dogshitters. I honestly feel duped by people and communities who were swearing by it last year. IDK maybe it was good 8 years ago...not now...

23 uses a V5 Chip these days. It's not better.

[Chris596]

Another question: When will the new Myheritage update take effect? It was also promised to come this year.

Sorry for off-topic btw

[Slavic Italian]

Another question: When will the new Myheritage update take effect? It was also promised to come this year.

Sorry for off-topic btw

I would not be surprised if it is sometime next year.

[Slavic Italian]

For those of you seeking your true origins. The only way to truly do that is via a Y Chromosome test. That is the only true way of learning your origins and that is a strength of FTDNA.

[vbnetkhio]

23 uses a V5 Chip these days. It's not better.

all companies except ancestryDna use a V5 chip now. and V5 doesn't have a too big effect on your results.

[Slavic Italian]

all companies except ancestryDna use a V5 chip now. and V5 doesn't have a too big effect on your results.

I've taken every test and yes it does.

[vbnetkhio]

I've taken every test and yes it does.

could you post your eurogenes k13 results with each of those raw datas, so we can see the effect? or is that too private

[Sofia]

I paid 99€ for Y-25 @ FTDNA and it was probably my 2nd worst money spent ever after that one time when I was 14 and I threw 50€ into a fake auction Bulgarian scam site.

Everything is total dogshit on this website and the people who are running it are absolute fuckers and I would love to talk about that but let's not include that, let's just include the "relevant", "true origin" stuff. For that amount of money I got PRESUMED positive R-M198, nothing more, nothing less, 2 motherfucking branches off BASAL R1a.

For 100$(including shipping) people on 23AndMe get at least 10x better ancestry results, ACTUALLY bigger matching database as FTDNA has the poorest and the smallest database of people, everyone who has done tests at multiple compaines will know this by heart because it's fucking obvious... But also at least like 5 branches further the Y-DNA tree and they don't even claim they are the "HaPlOgRoUp ExPerTs" that FTDNA thinks they are. And I could care less for 500$+ big Y-DNA tests. For all I know there are other compaines for that as well.

Even MyHeritage which has arguably worse genetic breakdown than FTDNA can fucking give you better Y-DNA prediction using the morley predictor for 59$ or whatever their discount is because the j**s at FTDNA do not allow Y-SNPs in their raw data so you can buy their DOGSHIT service.

I also find it funny that your problem with 23andme and other companies too is the V5 chip. So that is a big reason for you to skip 23andme but FTDNA with the technology from like 2007 and their genetic regions and categories breakdown that someone from the 18th century would have thought that are appropriate is a-okay?

I realize 23andme can be more expensive in certain countries and they aren't perfect too but yeah, everything else stays. If 23andme is very expensive, like it is in my country(100$ shipping), and that is the reason why you choose FTDNA, thats okay, just don't deny that FTDNA is bollocks.

[Sofia]

double post, cloudflare is dying

[walid]

I paid 99€ for Y-25 @ FTDNA and it was probably my 2nd worst money spent ever after that one time when I was 14 and I threw 50€ into a fake auction Bulgarian scam site.

Everything is total dogshit on this website and the people who are running it are absolute fuckers and I would love to talk about that but let's not include that, let's just include the "relevant", "true origin" stuff. For that amount of money I got PRESUMED positive R-M198, nothing more, nothing less, 2 motherfucking branches off BASAL R1a.

For 100$(including shipping) people on 23AndMe get at least 10x better ancestry results, ACTUALLY bigger matching database as FTDNA has the poorest and the smallest database of people, everyone who has done tests at multiple compaines will know this by heart because it's fucking obvious... But also at least like 5 branches further the Y-DNA tree and they don't even claim they are the "HaPlOgRoUp ExPerTs" that FTDNA thinks they are. And I could care less for 500$+ big Y-DNA tests. For all I know there are other compaines for that as well.

Even MyHeritage which has arguably worse genetic breakdown than FTDNA can fucking give you better Y-DNA prediction using the morley predictor for 59$ or whatever their discount is because the j**s at FTDNA do not allow Y-SNPs in their raw data so you can buy their DOGSHIT service.

I also find it funny that your problem with 23andme and other companies too is the V5 chip. So that is a big reason for you to skip 23andme but FTDNA with the technology from like 2007 and their genetic regions and categories breakdown that someone from the 18th century would have thought that are appropriate is a-okay?

I realize 23andme can be more expensive in certain countries and they aren't perfect too but yeah, everything else stays. If 23andme is very expensive, like it is in my country(100$ shipping), and that is the reason why you choose FTDNA, thats okay, just don't deny that FTDNA is bollocks.

I think that the best thing is doing a whole genome sequencing with dantelabs or nebule for example directly , i also regret testing autosomal + ydna12 with ftdna , it's a waste of money

[Sofia]

I think that the best thing is doing a whole genome sequencing with dantelabs or nebule for example directly , i also regret testing autosomal + ydna12 with ftdna , it's a waste of money

Absolutely. This relatively new service Nebula Genomics seems to be the best thing right now. Full sequencing of 100% of you DNA including full Y-DNA/mtDNA for 500$ currently. For reference BiG Y-DnA is 400$ :picard1::picard1::picard1:

But there are some dinosaurs and retards that swear by FTDNA for some reason even when presented with the cold hard truth. One look at Nebula will tell you what a 2020 new generation DNA service looks like. I feel sad for people living in the past. And more sad that fuckers like FTDNA still manage to scam people and make money off of them, me included.

[walid]

Absolutely. This relatively new service Nebula Genomics seems to be the best thing right now. Full sequencing of 100% of you DNA including full Y-DNA/mtDNA for 500$ currently. For reference BiG Y-DnA is 400$ :picard1::picard1::picard1:

But there are some dinosaurs and retards that swear by FTDNA for some reason even when presented with the cold hard truth. One look at Nebula will tell you what a 2020 new generation DNA service looks like. I feel sad for people living in the past. And more sad that fuckers like FTDNA still manage to scam people and make money off of them, me included.

i bought a Nebula kit this week for 299$ , seems a good deal

[Chris596]

FTDNA may be bad, but their ancestry report was much more accurate than what I got from Myheritage. And that is a fact I can tell you.

[Sofia]

FTDNA may be bad, but their ancestry report was much more accurate than what I got from Myheritage. And that is a fact I can tell you.

Well, it was the absolute opposite for me, I can tell you.

But this doesn't matter as both have bad ancestry reports. The fact of the matter is that every company has redeeming qualities, FTDNA has virtually NONE

[Leto]

Well, it was the absolute opposite for me, I can tell you.

But this doesn't matter as both have bad ancestry reports. The fact of the matter is that every company has redeeming qualities, FTDNA has virtually NONE
You got your raw data from them, right? That's the most important thing (raw data for Gedmatch).

[Slavic Italian]

I paid 99€ for Y-25 @ FTDNA and it was probably my 2nd worst money spent ever after that one time when I was 14 and I threw 50€ into a fake auction Bulgarian scam site.

Everything is total dogshit on this website and the people who are running it are absolute fuckers and I would love to talk about that but let's not include that, let's just include the "relevant", "true origin" stuff. For that amount of money I got PRESUMED positive R-M198, nothing more, nothing less, 2 motherfucking branches off BASAL R1a.

For 100$(including shipping) people on 23AndMe get at least 10x better ancestry results, ACTUALLY bigger matching database as FTDNA has the poorest and the smallest database of people, everyone who has done tests at multiple compaines will know this by heart because it's fucking obvious... But also at least like 5 branches further the Y-DNA tree and they don't even claim they are the "HaPlOgRoUp ExPerTs" that FTDNA thinks they are. And I could care less for 500$+ big Y-DNA tests. For all I know there are other compaines for that as well.

Even MyHeritage which has arguably worse genetic breakdown than FTDNA can fucking give you better Y-DNA prediction using the morley predictor for 59$ or whatever their discount is because the j**s at FTDNA do not allow Y-SNPs in their raw data so you can buy their DOGSHIT service.

I also find it funny that your problem with 23andme and other companies too is the V5 chip. So that is a big reason for you to skip 23andme but FTDNA with the technology from like 2007 and their genetic regions and categories breakdown that someone from the 18th century would have thought that are appropriate is a-okay?

I realize 23andme can be more expensive in certain countries and they aren't perfect too but yeah, everything else stays. If 23andme is very expensive, like it is in my country(100$ shipping), and that is the reason why you choose FTDNA, thats okay, just don't deny that FTDNA is bollocks.

Dumbass.

[Slavic Italian]

Absolutely. This relatively new service Nebula Genomics seems to be the best thing right now. Full sequencing of 100% of you DNA including full Y-DNA/mtDNA for 500$ currently. For reference BiG Y-DnA is 400$ :picard1::picard1::picard1:

But there are some dinosaurs and retards that swear by FTDNA for some reason even when presented with the cold hard truth. One look at Nebula will tell you what a 2020 new generation DNA service looks like. I feel sad for people living in the past. And more sad that fuckers like FTDNA still manage to scam people and make money off of them, me included.

Nebula sucks. Been there done that. Dumbass millennial.

[Alenka]

Nebula sucks. Been there done that. Dumbass millennial.
What's so bad about Nebula? Can you download the raw data and upload it to GEDmatch?

[Slavic Italian]

What's so bad about Nebula? Can you download the raw data and upload it to GEDmatch?

Let me say this. There is nothing good about it. The admin admitted to me they have very few references and what good is a huge raw data file when you have no references to match the info against? Right now they suck. Gedmatch? It's ok but it needs updated. I'm talking the entire format. Talk about a fossil.

[Slavic Italian]

Well, it was the absolute opposite for me, I can tell you.

But this doesn't matter as both have bad ancestry reports. The fact of the matter is that every company has redeeming qualities, FTDNA has virtually NONE

The V5 chip uses 200,000 SNPs less than the V3 chip did. You are a emotional and clueless millennial.

[Slavic Italian]

could you post your eurogenes k13 results with each of those raw datas, so we can see the effect? or is that too private

Gedmatch. LOL.

[Sofia]

I contemplated for awhile after reading your pathetic posts, but in the end I decided that you are way too retarded to deserve any kind of proper response. My post about ftdna is out of emotion for sure, but at least I am right about something, and you are obviously a massive loser.

[vbnetkhio]

Gedmatch. LOL.

what else do you use your raw data for, that the v5 chip has an effect on? i really wanna know.

[Slavic Italian]

what else do you use your raw data for, that the v5 chip has an effect on? i really wanna know.

200,000 less SNPs. You can figure it out.

[vbnetkhio]

200,000 less SNPs. You can figure it out.

i can't, sorry, i'm a little bit dumb. help me out.
and why does it even matter, 23andme v3 was available from 2010 to 2013 and then replaced with v4. there is no way to get it anymore.

[Ljubic]

Just convert your "Bad" Raw Data with Admixture Studio and youre good to go. It doesnt matter that much which company you buy your kit from if the only reason you buy it for are the Gedmatch admix tools.

[vbnetkhio]

Just convert your "Bad" Raw Data with Admixture Studio and youre good to go. It doesnt matter that much which company you buy your kit from if the only reason you buy it for are the Gedmatch admix tools.

do you mean dna kit studio? you'll just lose SNPs if you do that, it can't impute SNPs which aren't there. just upload the raw data as you got it from 23andme, it gives ok results. i don't understand all this panic about v5 data.

[Sofia]

I understand that everyone's trying to be edgy and I get that major companies cater to normies and gedmatch is awesome and scientific and true but in my opinion some of these companies do a really good job and are improving.

But I wanna bring up another topic. Very often on this forum I see people saying that X company is inaccurate, Y company gave me the most accurate results, Z service sucks and so on. Guy, let me just say it, guys...if you are so sure about your origin why the fuck are you buying DNA tests? How can you evaluate what's more accurate ? Most of the people on this forum are already biased about their ancestry and accept only something that fits their bias. It's sooo easy to bash on MyHeritage's random 3.42% Finnish and FTDNA's 13% Iberian as a Bulgarian but some companies (like 23andme in my opinion) and external services are maybe more accurate than your random ass belief and bias about where you come from and what you should be.

[Ljubic]

do you mean dna kit studio? you'll just lose SNPs if you do that, it can't impute SNPs which aren't there. just upload the raw data as you got it from 23andme, it gives ok results. i don't understand all this panic about v5 data.

Ill try to convert my 23andMe Data to Ancestry and compare it to my actual Ancestry Data later. The difference between V5 and V3 isnt that small, to me at least. Ill post both my results later. Thanks for the food for thought.

[vbnetkhio]

Ill try to convert my 23andMe Data to Ancestry and compare it to my actual Ancestry Data later. The difference between V5 and V3 isnt that small, to me at least. Ill post both my results later. Thanks for the food for thought.

if you convert 23andme v5 to v3 or ancestry, you will still have all the same snps, just in a different format. or if you use the "raw template" option, it will actually shave off the extra snps specific for v5, and won't add any new ones, so you'll actually end up with less SNPs.

only imputing with dna.land can give you more SNPs, but they currently don't allow downloads for some reason.

[Slavic Italian]

I understand that everyone's trying to be edgy and I get that major companies cater to normies and gedmatch is awesome and scientific and true but in my opinion some of these companies do a really good job and are improving.

But I wanna bring up another topic. Very often on this forum I see people saying that X company is inaccurate, Y company gave me the most accurate results, Z service sucks and so on. Guy, let me just say it, guys...if you are so sure about your origin why the fuck are you buying DNA tests? How can you evaluate what's more accurate ? Most of the people on this forum are already biased about their ancestry and accept only something that fits their bias. It's sooo easy to bash on MyHeritage's random 3.42% Finnish and FTDNA's 13% Iberian as a Bulgarian but some companies (like 23andme in my opinion) and external services are maybe more accurate than your random ass belief and bias about where you come from and what you should be.

I'll explain it this way. I tested Y-111 then did R1a backbone. I got quite a few matches which provided me with insights to my origins. I am talking specifics. It also provided specific variants I tested positive for and which nations they came from. This also exposed to me which DNA tests are crap. This is why I was calling you a dumbass. If you know what you are doing you learn a lot from FTDNA Y tests especially if you are mixed like me and want to learn your specific origins. I match with this haplogroup....R-BY27938. It's Russian. It along with two others confirm I have origins in Russia. A few DNA tests have failed to confirm it. 23&me I have over a dozen Russian matches and more Ukrainians with origins in Russia. Yet, they do not clarify where my Slavic origins are from. FTDNA Y testing has confirmed that even specific cities. It also showed me David Wesolowski was correct in his analysis and some of these American companies really suck.

[Leto]

Today is September 1st, the summer is gone and STILL NO UPDATE!

THEY GOTTA BE KIDDING!

:picard1:

[Chris596]

They are Americans, "Western Spies" basically.

Is there a separate website or something where they announce the updates and everything? I didn't find anything regarding the FTDNA or Myheritage update for instance, only a forum and another website, plus Reddit 3 months ago and that's it.

[Luso]

Today is September 1st, the summer is gone and STILL NO UPDATE!

THEY GOTTA BE KIDDING!

:picard1:

I won't be surprised if it comes out next year around this time. They are that slow.

[Leto]

I won't be surprised if it comes out next year around this time. They are that slow.
I think it is likely to come out before the big Christmas sale. But who know at this point...

[calxpal]

Lol It's been so long and they haven't updated..I'm still excited about it but I think there will definitely be a 23andme update before FTDNA :). I was looking forward to the new FTDNA chromosome painting but now I've almost forgot about it ;).

[axel.aleman]

I still waiting for my update

[Chris596]

Also, what about the Myheritage update? (I know this is off-topic) they are silent as well...

[Leto]

Also, what about the Myheritage update? (I know this is off-topic) they are silent as well...
Yes, this question is just as relevant. Both have not delivered yet.

[Kaspias]

Honestly, who cares what update they will come up with, both FTDNA and MH. What they do is just changing their dataset and replace population clusters with another. What is important from my perspective is changes in the sample size of 23andme which determines the efficiency of IBD they use. (region assigning) Any other update related to ancestry breakdown in any company will be useless unless they bring a new tool or method or something. 23andme's regions were revolutionary for DNA companies, we need developments like this, yet even 23andme couldn't manage to run IBD efficiently yet.



MH will have 90+ population groups? Wow! You can prepare 150+ population groups for yourself by using G25 basically, and you will be the same shit at the end of the day. Not to mention they couldn't even manage to come up with such a fundamental update and postponed it many times.

[Pine]

Also, what about the Myheritage update? (I know this is off-topic) they are silent as well...

MH said 2 updates are coming, one around winter holidays.

[Ion Basescul]

Honestly, who cares what update they will come up with, both FTDNA and MH. What they do is just changing their dataset and replace population clusters with another. What is important from my perspective is changes in the sample size of 23andme which determines the efficiency of IBD they use. (region assigning) Any other update related to ancestry breakdown in any company will be useless unless they bring a new tool or method or something. 23andme's regions were revolutionary for DNA companies, we need developments like this, yet even 23andme couldn't manage to run IBD efficiently yet.



MH will have 90+ population groups? Wow! You can prepare 150+ population groups for yourself by using G25 basically, and you will be the same shit at the end of the day. Not to mention they couldn't even manage to come up with such a fundamental update and postponed it many times.

MH will have both ethnicity estimates and regional assignments (genetic groups).

https://i.imgur.com/kCrxinK.png