E Y-DNA is Basal Eurasian

[Daos777]

The proof:

Starting with Iberomaurusian mtDNA + Similarities in phenotype between Paleolithic Europeans and Mechtoids of North Africa.

"U6 is a sister of european u5 and basically a cro magnon lineage. Basal u6 has been found in Romania and migrated more than 30.000 years ago into North Africa.

U6 is a non-African lineage and represents a back-migration to Africa. (Hodgson et al; 2014) Therefore, there is no reason to suppose a sub-Saharan origin of ancestral haplogroup U (Smith et al; 2013). "U6 traces the first detectable Paleolithic return to Africa of ancient Caucasoid lineages. It has been mostly found in Northwest Africa, with a global estimated age of 47,000 years reflecting an old human continuity in that rather isolated area." (Maca-Meyer et al ; 2001)"U6 is the sister of U5, the oldest haplogroup in Europe, up to 50,000 years. U5 and U6 have a common ancestor in the Near East from which these two branches diverged. - one populating the Northern Mediterranean coast, giving rise to U5 and the second colonizing the southern Mediterranean coast, giving rise to U6 in North Africa. U6 marks the signature of the return of modern man toward Africa around 39,000-52,000 years ago." (Rando et al 1998; Macaulay et al 1999; Maca-Meyer et al 2001; Maca-Meyer et al 2003) "The Iberomaurusian was initiated by an expansion of modern humans of ultimately Near Eastern, carrying mtDNA haplogroup U6, who had spread into Cyrenaïca ~35-45 ka and produced the Dabban industry. The link back to the Near East and the European Early Upper Palaeolithic (which likely has the same source) may explain the suggested skeletal similarities between the robust Iberomaurusian "Mechta-Afalou" burials and European Cro-Magnon remains, as well as the case for continuity of the bearers of the Iberomaurusian industry from Morocco with later northwest African populations suggested by the dental evidence Pereira et al 2010."

Lack of any sub-saharan African skulls in North Africa before Bantu expansion. African Americans carrying younger clades of E as compared to North Africa suggesting North to South Expansion, Kiffian skulls related to Mechta North Africans being found as far as Central Africa while still mostly Caucasoid.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Z3Jfja_9Ck

"Black” Africans carry much younger clades of E1b1a, more specific E1b1a7 and E1b1a8 which have been founded recently, same as the L found in ssafrica.

Y-chromosomal variation: Insights into the history of Niger-Congo groups

Similar to E1b1a8, the highest STR variance for E1b1a7a was found in the C.A.R. Pygmies (0.49); however, the Bantu speakers from West Zambia and the Burkina Faso Gur speakers also had high STR variances (0.47 and 0.43, respectively).

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The tMRCA estimates for haplogroups E1b1a7 and E1b1a8 were calculated by means of the ASD statistic for the major ethno-linguistic groups (Table 3). The highest tMRCA (~4,200 ya) for E1b1a7a was ascertained in the Yoruba from Nigeria, while the lowest (~2,000 ya) was in Nilo-Saharans. With regard to E1b1a8, the highest tMRCA (~ 5,000 ya) was found in Mande speakers from both Burkina Faso and Senegal, while the lowest (~3,400 ya) was in the Bantu."

So next time you see an E carrier you better recognize that we are your daddy.

[Coastal Elite]

https://youtu.be/iKKONgfNONU

[Daos777]

https://youtu.be/iKKONgfNONU

Those jungle booties is why E men came to Africa.

[Synapsid]

Those jungle booties is why E men came to Africa.

Current evidence shows that E probably came from ANA in taforalt

[Synapsid]

The proof:

Starting with Iberomaurusian mtDNA + Similarities in phenotype between Paleolithic Europeans and Mechtoids of North Africa.

"U6 is a sister of european u5 and basically a cro magnon lineage. Basal u6 has been found in Romania and migrated more than 30.000 years ago into North Africa.

U6 is a non-African lineage and represents a back-migration to Africa. (Hodgson et al; 2014) Therefore, there is no reason to suppose a sub-Saharan origin of ancestral haplogroup U (Smith et al; 2013). "U6 traces the first detectable Paleolithic return to Africa of ancient Caucasoid lineages. It has been mostly found in Northwest Africa, with a global estimated age of 47,000 years reflecting an old human continuity in that rather isolated area." (Maca-Meyer et al ; 2001)"U6 is the sister of U5, the oldest haplogroup in Europe, up to 50,000 years. U5 and U6 have a common ancestor in the Near East from which these two branches diverged. - one populating the Northern Mediterranean coast, giving rise to U5 and the second colonizing the southern Mediterranean coast, giving rise to U6 in North Africa. U6 marks the signature of the return of modern man toward Africa around 39,000-52,000 years ago." (Rando et al 1998; Macaulay et al 1999; Maca-Meyer et al 2001; Maca-Meyer et al 2003) "The Iberomaurusian was initiated by an expansion of modern humans of ultimately Near Eastern, carrying mtDNA haplogroup U6, who had spread into Cyrenaïca ~35-45 ka and produced the Dabban industry. The link back to the Near East and the European Early Upper Palaeolithic (which likely has the same source) may explain the suggested skeletal similarities between the robust Iberomaurusian "Mechta-Afalou" burials and European Cro-Magnon remains, as well as the case for continuity of the bearers of the Iberomaurusian industry from Morocco with later northwest African populations suggested by the dental evidence Pereira et al 2010."

Lack of any sub-saharan African skulls in North Africa before Bantu expansion. African Americans carrying younger clades of E as compared to North Africa suggesting North to South Expansion, Kiffian skulls related to Mechta North Africans being found as far as Central Africa while still mostly Caucasoid.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Z3Jfja_9Ck

"Black” Africans carry much younger clades of E1b1a, more specific E1b1a7 and E1b1a8 which have been founded recently, same as the L found in ssafrica.

Y-chromosomal variation: Insights into the history of Niger-Congo groups

Similar to E1b1a8, the highest STR variance for E1b1a7a was found in the C.A.R. Pygmies (0.49); however, the Bantu speakers from West Zambia and the Burkina Faso Gur speakers also had high STR variances (0.47 and 0.43, respectively).

[...]

The tMRCA estimates for haplogroups E1b1a7 and E1b1a8 were calculated by means of the ASD statistic for the major ethno-linguistic groups (Table 3). The highest tMRCA (~4,200 ya) for E1b1a7a was ascertained in the Yoruba from Nigeria, while the lowest (~2,000 ya) was in Nilo-Saharans. With regard to E1b1a8, the highest tMRCA (~ 5,000 ya) was found in Mande speakers from both Burkina Faso and Senegal, while the lowest (~3,400 ya) was in the Bantu."

So next time you see an E carrier you better recognize that we are your daddy.

The reason why U6 exist in Iberomarusian is because they are 55% Dzudzuana (paleolithic Caucasus), and U6 was found in Dzudzuana.

[Daos777]

The reason why U6 exist in Iberomarusian is because they are 55% Dzudzuana (paleolithic Caucasus), and U6 was found in Dzudzuana.

Yeah, but that’s not really saying anything specific as Dzudzuana like ancestry is found in many Paleolithic people in Anatolia, Levant, Europe, and Iran/Caucasus. Dzudzuana like ancestry just means Basal Eurasian component.


“Most of the Dzudzuana population's ancestry was deeply related to the post-glacial western European hunter-gatherers of the 'Villabruna cluster', but it also had ancestry from a lineage that had separated from the great majority of non-African populations before they separated from each other, proving that such 'Basal Eurasians' were present in West Eurasia twice as early as previously recorded. “

What is the other 45% of ANA?


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[Synapsid]

Yeah, but that’s not really saying anything specific as Dzudzuana like ancestry is found in many Paleolithic people in Anatolia, Levant, Europe, and Iran/Caucasus. Dzudzuana like ancestry just means Basal Eurasian component.


“Most of the Dzudzuana population's ancestry was deeply related to the post-glacial western European hunter-gatherers of the 'Villabruna cluster', but it also had ancestry from a lineage that had separated from the great majority of non-African populations before they separated from each other, proving that such 'Basal Eurasians' were present in West Eurasia twice as early as previously recorded. “

What is the other 45% of ANA?


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U6 does not come from basal females, its from the UHG/Villabruna-releated part of Dzudzuana. U5 is the dominant clade in WHG, and they lack basal, U6 is close to U5. And Taforalt is 55% Dzudzuana 45% ANA, ANA is ancient. Its deeper than basal but Eurasians are closer to it than to SSA

[Daos777]

U6 does not come from basal females, its from the UHG/Villabruna-releated part of Dzudzuana. U5 is the dominant clade in WHG, and they lack basal, U6 is close to U5. And Taforalt is 55% Dzudzuana 45% ANA, ANA is ancient. Its deeper than basal but Eurasians are closer to it than to SSA

So ANA is older than basal?

What mtDNA would basal eurasians carry?


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[Synapsid]

So ANA is older than basal?

What mtDNA would basal eurasians carry?


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We don't know yet. Some variant of L3 perhaps.

[Konstantinos]

It's very likely in my opinion, I remember Dienekes was first to propose such a thing long ago.

[Daos777]

We don't know yet. Some variant of L3 perhaps.

What about Y-DNA? CT? Because that’s usually regarded as Eurasian “Adam.” And it goes CT>DE>E. Early E would be one of the closer haplos to this clades of basal Adam. In your opinion is ANA a native African population or is it a back migration from Eurasia?

[Rocinante]

E is negro.

[Daos777]

E is negro.

Where are the younger clades that are found with negroid skulls then lol? Why is the oldest E found with Caucasoid Cro-Magnon like people? Why are there no negroid skulls in North Africa prior to Bantu expansion? Even earlier skeleton found in Egypt 30,000 years ago was cro-mag and Caucasoid. Sub Saharan Africans are a recent addition to north and east Africa. This is all just a fact based on physical evidence no larp like others here.

And you saying E is negroid is giving blacks credibility of Egyptians were black narrative and therefore they can take credit for Egypt.


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[Rocinante]

Where are the younger clades that are found with negroid skulls then lol? Why is the oldest E found with Caucasoid Cro-Magnon like people? Why are there no negroid skulls in North Africa prior to Bantu expansion? Even earlier skeleton found in Egypt 30,000 years ago was cro-mag and Caucasoid. Sub Saharan Africans are a recent addition to north and east Africa. This is all just a fact based on physical evidence no larp like others here.

And you saying E is negroid is giving blacks credibility of Egyptians were black narrative and therefore they can take credit for Egypt.


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Based on my ignorance, european cro-magnons were I, C1 (La Braña) and R1 (Samara HG & Villabruna 1), didn't know the existance of african E in EEMH.

[Rocinante]

By the way, before anyone gets triggered again xD i'm trolling with the Negro E thing, as always. I don't know where E come from, just that M78 is more frequent in Northeast Africa, Southeast Europe and the Levant, and M81 would be the major haplogroup in Northwest Africa

[Daos777]

Based on my ignorance, european cro-magnons were I, C1 (La Braña) and R1 (Samara HG & Villabruna 1), didn't know the existance of african E in EEMH.

The earliest european Cro-Mags are all C. I split from J around Iran/Caucasus and entered Europe later than C.

C comes from CF which comes from CT, you know what else comes from CT? DE. So in a way they are somewhat cousins or at least C carrying Cro-Mags are closer to E carriers than they are to I or R carriers haplos which came later.

Anyways, I’m not talking about specifically european cro-magnon. I’m talking about the common ancestor, basal eurasians. Who where obviously also cro-mag and not black. Proof:


“Nazlet Khater[1] is an archeological site located in Upper Egypt. Excavations at the Nazlet Khater 2 site (Boulder Hill) yielded the remains of two human skeletons. One of the skulls was that of a male subadult. The cranium was generally modern in form, but with very wide face, and evinced some archaic traits in the temple and mandible areas. Below the skull, the skeleton was robust but otherwise anatomically modern. Morphological analysis of the Nazlet Khater mandible indicates that the specimen was distinct from the examined Late Pleistocene and Holocene North African specimens.[2] The Nazlet Khater 2 skeleton possesses two plesiomorphic features in its mandible, which are not found among coeval anatomically modern humans. This suggests that the specimen's ancestors may have interbred with neighboring late archaic humans.[3] At Nazlet Khater 4 to the southeast, Upper Paleolithic axes, blades, burins, end scrapers and denticulates were also excavated. The site has been radiocarbon dated to between 30,360-35,100 years ago.[2] The similarities between NK2 and Upper Paleolithic European samples may indicate a close relationship between this Nile Valley specimen and European Upper Paleolithic modern humans.”

This 30,000 year old Egyptian skeleton resembled UP Europeans, he was not negroid. Negroids as I said are a recent addition to North Africa.


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[Daos777]

By the way, before anyone gets triggered again xD i'm trolling with the Negro E thing, as always. I don't know where E come from, just that M78 is more frequent in Northeast Africa, Southeast Europe and the Levant, and M81 would be the major haplogroup in Northwest Africa

E-M78 is ancient and native to North Africa. It’s the ANA Y-DNA. E-M81 came with Neolithic expansion and cattle herders who wiped out or outbred most of the E-M78.


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[Ion Basescul]

The proof:



Just take the n pass mate.

[Daos777]

Just take the n pass mate.

Lol ill still have the n-pass either way. Because my paternal ancestors clapped those thick African jungle booty cheeks.

[Hashoeva]

haplogroup E is of African origins thats a fact. I know that some Europeans on this forum are ashamed because they carry haplogroup E(frican). But its stupid and ridiculous to say that haplogroup E is Eurasian. Haplogroup E is ancestors to black-african, and afro-asiatic ( semitic, berber / hamitic, etc).

[Daos777]

Haplogroup E is ancestors to black-African, and afro-asiatic ( semitic, berber / hamitic, etc).

Nobody is ashamed of anything. It just isn’t true. What you’re saying is illogical given actual physical evidence.

I can’t believe I have to repeat this again. Oldest E is found among non-Subsaharan cromagnoid like Mechta-Afalou peoples. We have their physical remains we know what they looked like. As well as Even Natufians lacked a significant sub Saharan input.

As for the languages Semitic, Berber, Hamitic. What I’m talking about predates all of these languages. It’s as retarded as saying that R1b has something to do with Jewish language because a lot of Jews are R1b. We don’t know how these languages formed and their relation to each other in their so called Afro-asiatic classification seems suspect to me. Show me close relation between Arabic and Amazigh for example.

It’s just some members being as dumb as thinking “E found Africa? E iz originate theirs no other explanation.”

[Halgurd]

It’s just some members being as dumb as thinking “E found Africa? E iz originate theirs no other explanation.”

Lol exactly by that logic R1b is African too.

[Ion Basescul]

Lol ill still have the n-pass either way. Because my paternal ancestors clapped those thick African jungle booty cheeks.

E haplogroup is definitely high test.