View Full Version : Palestinian Turkmen Gedmatch result
Dodecadk12b:
Gedrosian: 11.55
Siberian: 2.98
Northwest_African: 4.66
Southeast_Asian: 0
Atlantic_Med: 8.47
North_European: 4.99
South_Asian 2.45
East_African 3.41
Southwest_Asian: 23.35
East_Asian: 2.05
Caucasian: 33.72
SSA: 2.38
Distance to: Palestinian_Turkmen
9.17287305 Syrians
9.25904423 Jordanians
9.59238761 Lebanese
11.89270365 Palestinian
13.80456446 Nusayri_Turkey
14.23771751 Turk_Southeast
14.56949553 Turkmen_Iraq
15.81633333 Turk_South
16.14452848 Turk_Central_West
16.24554400 Turk_Central_East
16.58103435 Turk_Anatolia
16.62023165 Kurd_Sorani
16.68747734 Uzbekistan_Jews
16.89458789 Azerbaijani
17.24079465 Egyptans
17.26232603 Iraq_Jews
17.30859902 Azerbaijani_Iran
17.37461366 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
17.62234661 Turk_Southwest
17.78427114 Azerbaijani_Turkey
17.87195009 Druze
17.89767303 Turk_West_BlackSea
17.92615408 Kurd_Kurmanji
18.67120243 Assyrian
18.91072183 Zaza
Target: Palestinian_Turkmen
Distance: 1.6159% / 1.61592939 | ADC: 0.25x
67.0 Jordanians
13.2 Turkmen_Iran
8.0 Yemenese
4.4 Turkmen_Uzbekistan
3.4 Yoruk
1.8 Balkan_Gypsy
1.8 Chuvash
0.4 Selkup
Target: Palestinian_Turkmen
Distance: 3.2853% / 3.28530742 | ADC: 0.5x
71.6 Jordanians
10.4 Turkmen_Uzbekistan
8.8 Turkmen_Iran
8.4 Syrians
0.8 Yoruk
Compared to Palestinian average:
Palestinian,6.81,0.00,5.41,0.10,10.91,0.30,0.60,5. 21,30.43,0.00,38.24,2.00
Gedrosian: 11.55 (+4,74)
Siberian: 2.98 (+2.98)
Northwest_African: 4.66 (-0.75)
Southeast_Asian: 0 (-0.10)
Atlantic_Med: 8.47 (-2.44)
North_European: 4.99 (+4.69)
South_Asian 2.45 (+1.85)
East_African 3.41 (-1.80)
Southwest_Asian: 23.35 (-7.08)
East_Asian: 2.05 (+2.05)
Caucasian: 33.72 (-4.52)
SSA: 2.38 (+0.38)
Bender1999
06-06-2020, 10:48 AM
Very SW-Asian shifted, still show Turkic input. Wherevdo you find those rare people xD.
Very SW-Asian shifted, still show Turkic input. Wherevdo you find those rare people xD.
Obviously he is. Anything other would have been very suprising
Bender1999
06-06-2020, 11:23 AM
Obviously he is. Anything other would have been very suprising
Are there Syrian turkmen results too? Also they could be interesting.
Palestinian,6.81,0.00,5.41,0.10,10.91,0.30,0.60,5. 21,30.43,0.00,38.24,2.00
Compared to Palestinian average:
Gedrosian: 11.55 (+4,74)
Siberian: 2.98 (+2.98)
Northwest_African: 4.66 (-0.75)
Southeast_Asian: 0 (+0.10)
Atlantic_Med: 8.47 (-2.44)
North_European: 4.99 (+4.69)
South_Asian 2.45 (+1.85)
East_African 3.41 (-1.80)
Southwest_Asian: 23.35 (-7.08)
East_Asian: 2.05 (+2.05)
Caucasian: 33.72 (-4.52)
SSA: 2.38 (+0.38)
Are there Syrian turkmen results too? Also they could be interesting.
Haven't seen any
Since when are there Turkmens in Palestine? Never heard of any Turkics in the Levant apart from those in Syria.
Since when are there Turkmens in Palestine? Never heard of any Turkics in the Levant apart from those in Syria.
Didn't heard of them too, but apparently a very small minority exists.
Since when are there Turkmens in Palestine? Never heard of any Turkics in the Levant apart from those in Syria.
Didn't heard of them too, but apparently a very small minority exists. Completely arabized by now of course.
Kaspias
06-06-2020, 12:57 PM
Why would one sent these people to Palestine which you don't have direct political control and the way is full of Arabs? It makes me sad when thinking under what conditions these people survived after the Ottoman retreat.
Kamal900
06-06-2020, 01:38 PM
Why would one sent these people to Palestine which you don't have direct political control and the way is full of Arabs? It makes me sad when thinking under what conditions these people survived after the Ottoman retreat.
:/
I didn't even know that we had Turkmen. I always though that they migrated to Syria and Iraq mostly.
Why would one sent these people to Palestine which you don't have direct political control and the way is full of Arabs? It makes me sad when thinking under what conditions these people survived after the Ottoman retreat.
They are (judging by the results above) just Muslim Middle Easterners with a bit of Mongoloid (5%). No big deal to me.
Kaspias
06-06-2020, 02:07 PM
They are (judging by the results above) just Muslim Middle Easterners with a bit of Mongoloid (5%). No big deal to me.
But they were not when they settled there. Considering children speak Turkish and have Turkish culture, they will be evaluated as Turk no matter what their genetic profile is.
itilvolga
06-06-2020, 02:11 PM
Since when are there Turkmens in Palestine? Never heard of any Turkics in the Levant apart from those in Syria.
They exist in other Levantine countries as well.
Israeli Turkmen are ethnic Turkish descendants who have had a long-established presence in the region. Migration of Turkish settlers to the Levant began in the 12th century, and continued throughout the Mamluk and Ottoman rule.
Jordanian Turks, are people of Turkish ancestry living in Jordan. These people have had a thriving presence in Jordan since the rule of the Ottoman Empire. Today, there is a minority of about 60,000 people in the country who are the descendants of the Ottoman-Turkish immigrants.
happycow
06-06-2020, 02:18 PM
Why would one sent these people to Palestine which you don't have direct political control and the way is full of Arabs? It makes me sad when thinking under what conditions these people survived after the Ottoman retreat.
Aww those poor wittle durks having to live next to a bunch of ayrabs. :( They should go back to durkey where they belong.
Palestinian,6.81,0.00,5.41,0.10,10.91,0.30,0.60,5. 21,30.43,0.00,38.24,2.00
Compared to Palestinian average:
Gedrosian: 11.55 (+4,74)
Siberian: 2.98 (+2.98)
Northwest_African: 4.66 (-0.75)
Southeast_Asian: 0 (+0.10)
Atlantic_Med: 8.47 (-2.44)
North_European: 4.99 (+4.69)
South_Asian 2.45 (+1.85)
East_African 3.41 (-1.80)
Southwest_Asian: 23.35 (-7.08)
East_Asian: 2.05 (+2.05)
Caucasian: 33.72 (-4.52)
SSA: 2.38 (+0.38)
Haven't seen any
They are significantly Turkmen shifted compared to Palestinian average as you note which is interesting and still significantly eastern shifted considering they are such a minority there which I’m sure has resulted in mixture with the local arabs. In Iraq where Turkmen communities are ofc much larger and in many areas surrounded by kurds the Turkmen admixture dilution is much less in many Iraqi Turkmen. Even my family members Such as my GF have significant Siberian and N European on these types of calculators
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 28.38
2 Gedrosia 27.69
3 Southwest_Asian 13.03
4 North_European 9.52
5 Atlantic_Med 6.9
6 Siberian 6.34
7 South_Asian 3.87
8 Southeast_Asian 1.97
9 East_Asian 1.03
10 Sub_Saharan 0.84
11 East_African 0.43
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Turkmens (Yunusbayev) 9.52
2 Iranians (Behar) 11.25
3 Iranian (Dodecad) 12.21
4 Kurd (Dodecad) 12.91
5 Kurds (Yunusbayev) 14.45
6 Tajiks (Yunusbayev) 18.46
7 Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) 19.27
8 Turks (Behar) 20.45
9 Turkish (Dodecad) 22.27
10 Kumyks (Yunusbayev) 22.36
11 Lebanese (Behar) 24.51
12 Lezgins (Behar) 24.92
13 Syrians (Behar) 25.03
14 Iranian_Jews (Behar) 25.06
15 Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) 25.6
16 Iraq_Jews (Behar) 25.77
17 Georgia_Jews (Behar) 25.8
18 Nogais (Yunusbayev) 25.96
19 Assyrian (Dodecad) 26.16
20 Jordanians (Behar) 27.11
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 87.9% Iranians (Behar) + 12.1% Selkup (Rasmussen) @ 5.41
2 84% Iranians (Behar) + 16% Chuvashs (Behar) @ 5.55
3 58.8% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) + 41.2% Iraq_Jews (Behar) @ 5.59
4 88.4% Iranians (Behar) + 11.6% Ket (Rasmussen) @ 5.76
5 58.2% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) + 41.8% Iranian_Jews (Behar) @ 5.97
6 51.2% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) + 48.8% Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) @ 6.18
7 58.3% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) + 41.7% Syrians (Behar) @ 6.37
8 57.8% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) + 42.2% Lebanese (Behar) @ 6.7
9 62.9% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) + 37.1% Druze (HGDP) @ 6.84
10 78.4% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) + 21.6% Syrians (Behar) @ 6.84
11 84.9% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) + 15.1% Bedouin (HGDP) @ 6.84
12 86.9% Iranians (Behar) + 13.1% Altai (Rasmussen) @ 6.88
13 57.5% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) + 42.5% Iranians (Behar) @ 6.9
14 78% Iranians (Behar) + 22% Uzbeks (Behar) @ 6.92
15 59.6% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) + 40.4% Assyrian (Dodecad) @ 6.96
16 67.4% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) + 32.6% Samaritians (Behar) @ 6.97
17 89.9% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) + 10.1% Saudis (Behar) @ 6.97
18 66% Iranians (Behar) + 34% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) @ 6.98
19 60.5% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) + 39.5% Jordanians (Behar) @ 6.99
20 88.7% Iranians (Behar) + 11.3% FIN30 (1000Genomes) @ 7.04
They are significantly Turkmen shifted compared to Palestinian average as you note which is interesting and still significantly eastern shifted considering they are such a minority there which I’m sure has resulted in mixture with the local arabs. In Iraq where Turkmen communities are ofc much larger and in many areas surrounded by kurds the Turkmen admixture dilution is much less in many Iraqi Turkmen. Even my family members Such as my GF have significant Siberian and N European on these types of calculators
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 28.38
2 Gedrosia 27.69
3 Southwest_Asian 13.03
4 North_European 9.52
5 Atlantic_Med 6.9
6 Siberian 6.34
7 South_Asian 3.87
8 Southeast_Asian 1.97
9 East_Asian 1.03
10 Sub_Saharan 0.84
11 East_African 0.43
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Turkmens (Yunusbayev) 9.52
2 Iranians (Behar) 11.25
3 Iranian (Dodecad) 12.21
4 Kurd (Dodecad) 12.91
5 Kurds (Yunusbayev) 14.45
6 Tajiks (Yunusbayev) 18.46
7 Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) 19.27
8 Turks (Behar) 20.45
9 Turkish (Dodecad) 22.27
10 Kumyks (Yunusbayev) 22.36
11 Lebanese (Behar) 24.51
12 Lezgins (Behar) 24.92
13 Syrians (Behar) 25.03
14 Iranian_Jews (Behar) 25.06
15 Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) 25.6
16 Iraq_Jews (Behar) 25.77
17 Georgia_Jews (Behar) 25.8
18 Nogais (Yunusbayev) 25.96
19 Assyrian (Dodecad) 26.16
20 Jordanians (Behar) 27.11
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 87.9% Iranians (Behar) + 12.1% Selkup (Rasmussen) @ 5.41
2 84% Iranians (Behar) + 16% Chuvashs (Behar) @ 5.55
3 58.8% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) + 41.2% Iraq_Jews (Behar) @ 5.59
4 88.4% Iranians (Behar) + 11.6% Ket (Rasmussen) @ 5.76
5 58.2% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) + 41.8% Iranian_Jews (Behar) @ 5.97
6 51.2% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) + 48.8% Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) @ 6.18
7 58.3% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) + 41.7% Syrians (Behar) @ 6.37
8 57.8% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) + 42.2% Lebanese (Behar) @ 6.7
9 62.9% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) + 37.1% Druze (HGDP) @ 6.84
10 78.4% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) + 21.6% Syrians (Behar) @ 6.84
11 84.9% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) + 15.1% Bedouin (HGDP) @ 6.84
12 86.9% Iranians (Behar) + 13.1% Altai (Rasmussen) @ 6.88
13 57.5% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) + 42.5% Iranians (Behar) @ 6.9
14 78% Iranians (Behar) + 22% Uzbeks (Behar) @ 6.92
15 59.6% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) + 40.4% Assyrian (Dodecad) @ 6.96
16 67.4% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) + 32.6% Samaritians (Behar) @ 6.97
17 89.9% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) + 10.1% Saudis (Behar) @ 6.97
18 66% Iranians (Behar) + 34% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) @ 6.98
19 60.5% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) + 39.5% Jordanians (Behar) @ 6.99
20 88.7% Iranians (Behar) + 11.3% FIN30 (1000Genomes) @ 7.04
Strong Turkic input for Iraqi Turkmens. (at least from what I have seen)
Strong Turkic input for Iraqi Turkmens. (at least from what I have seen)
Agreed but the ones typically seen don’t represent All Iraqi Turkmen same with Kurds although they’re probably not far from average depending the area
But they were not when they settled there. Considering children speak Turkish and have Turkish culture, they will be evaluated as Turk no matter what their genetic profile is.
So what. The Levant used to be under the Ottomans...
Kaspias
06-06-2020, 03:21 PM
So what. The Levant used to be under the Ottomans...
You don't understand my point.
Bender1999
06-06-2020, 04:20 PM
Also there are a lot of descendants of Turks in North africa. In my knowledge the most Turkomans of Levant region live in syrian golan height.
Fedora
06-08-2020, 01:57 PM
The guy posted is from a Turkish tribe called Saadlu which ruled modern day Armenia.~
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mausoleum_of_Kara_Koyunlu_emirs
Also the Golan heights use to have like 25-30 Turkmen villages.
Another one:
Gedrosian: 12.76
Siberian: 3.73
Northwest_African: 2.86
Southeast_Asian: 0
Atlantic_Med: 8.23
North_European: 3.26
South_Asian 1.71
East_African 3.09
Southwest_Asian: 23.46
East_Asian: 2.75
Caucasian: 36.78
SSA: 1.37
Distance to: Turkmen_Palestine2
7.69825305 Syrians
8.03232220 Lebanese
8.79523735 Jordanians
11.66920306 Palestinian
11.88437209 Nusayri_Turkey
12.83984034 Turkmen_Iraq
13.13148506 Turk_Southeast
13.69182968 Iraq_Jews
13.73783826 Uzbekistan_Jews
15.10039072 Turk_Central_East
15.13238580 Druze
15.18513747 Kurd_Sorani
15.18697797 Turk_South
15.21826863 Assyrian
15.52772359 Iranian_Jews
15.71908076 Turk_Central_West
15.76718745 Azerbaijani
15.98053503 Azerbaijani_Iran
16.09568886 Turk_Anatolia
16.22771395 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
16.31434951 Azerbaijani_Turkey
16.37339610 Kurd_Kurmanji
16.80044345 Turk_East
17.01958578 Zaza
17.07278829 Armenian_West
Target: Turkmen_Palestine2
Distance: 3.3046% / 3.30464462 | ADC: 0.5x
42.2 Syrians
33.4 Jordanians
16.2 Turk_Southeast
6.4 Turkmen_Iran
1.6 Tuva
0.2 Turkmen_Iraq
Target: Turkmen_Palestine2
Distance: 1.6572% / 1.65715615 | ADC: 0.25x
39.6 Jordanians
32.8 Syrians
12.8 Uzbekistan_Jews
10.0 Turkmen_Iran
4.4 Tuva
0.4 Iranian_Jews
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