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Mortimer
06-06-2020, 03:12 PM
Turkish or Iranian or Southasian?

TheForeigner
06-06-2020, 03:20 PM
Turkish or Iranian or Southasian?

I think originally they were Turkic Central Asians and their name is derived from Mongols. With time, they must have mixed heavily with Indians and started to look more South Asian.

Zoro
06-06-2020, 04:06 PM
The founders such as Babur (born 1483 in Uzbekistan) were directly descendants of Timur (Tamerlane) and probably looked like Uzbeks. Same with his son Humayun but Humayun’s son Akbar was half persian half Uzbek type. Akbar’s son Jahangir was 1/2 Indian and 1/4 Uzbek type 1/4 Persian. He would have blended in very well with Afghans where they ruled out of for a long time

After that Indian genes started to increase

KirillMazur
06-06-2020, 04:33 PM
The name "Great Mughals" appeared already under the British colonialists, neither the founder of the Empire, nor his descendants called themselves so. The term "mogul" was used by the population in India to refer to all Muslims in North India and Central Asia.
Appearance - typical R1a Caucasoids.

This is the founder of the Mughal empire - Akbar the Great (1556-1605), the son of Humayun and the grandson of the famous Babur.
https://i.imgur.com/gHHr480.jpg

Babur.
https://i.imgur.com/T0wT7jZ.jpg

A rare image of the Great Mogul, the Emperor of Hindustan - engraving by Francois Jollain, the Elder (1641-1704)
https://i.imgur.com/QCUmt5w.jpg

More engravings.
https://i.imgur.com/VU0uBkj.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/DCDU3Ql.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/Sg6MIww.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/00uJQSQ.jpg

As we see, in all the engravings neither the supreme ruler of Hindustan - the Great Mogul, nor his ministers, nor the Brahmins, nor the judges, nor even the executors of the sentence have anything in their appearance either Mongolian or Indian, or Arabic (Semitic). These are people of the white race.
The Great Mughal of the German engraver Johan Hyde.
https://i.imgur.com/upzIpPw.jpg

Aurangzeb or Alamgir I, the Great Mogul.
https://i.imgur.com/UI4dx7h.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/if0829H.jpg

Akbar the Great, grandson of the founder of the Mughal dynasty in India, Babur (I have already considered him above). Remove the turban, and you get a typical Russian Cossack.
https://i.imgur.com/zFuqNYD.jpg

And this is what the vizier of the Mughal Empire, Shuja ad-Daula Haidar (1732-1775) looked like. Agree, something similar to a wealthy gentleman from Little Russia.
https://i.imgur.com/Tl6YvxS.jpg

The last Great Mogul - Bahadur Shah II (1775-1862) was also white. Note that, judging by these images, the Mughal elite took the purity of blood seriously - the features of the white race were clearly preserved from the first to the last ruler.
https://i.imgur.com/b0EeSVV.jpg

lameduck
06-06-2020, 04:44 PM
they looked like mixture of central asian and indian caucaosoid from rajput clan , kinda like tiger sheroff or himalayan indians like viduyat jamwal

Smeagol
06-06-2020, 04:57 PM
Lol, the Mughals weren't white. Pictures posted above are mostly imagined portraits by Europeans who had never actually seen them in person. The sculptures are modern.

tipirneni
06-06-2020, 05:08 PM
https://images.financialexpress.com/2017/11/habeebuddin.jpg
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn%3AANd9GcRChmtNAkaMsIfydN-ErbGqeV68T9dS_7HuOV6ShnlUUoGIJwFj&usqp=CAU
The direct descendant of Mughal emperors looks like full Indian now after many generations of mixture with Indian queens.

Even their persian Nobles look like full born Indians now

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn%3AANd9GcRUivwE-PAgIaPvSEvUTMT7_si9SjtFNsqKfT8c5iJMBzLOXr5f&usqp=CAU
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn%3AANd9GcRvPAwhuFA6X3FTR9qeqlHr8gI2pHu PBwJL2ZYPvmDMieVVwJEu&usqp=CAU

Shows the amazing power of South Asian people to assimilate the foreign influences

Dr_Maul
06-06-2020, 05:12 PM
Originally they looked Uzbek, Uighur
A couple generations after, they look more Afghan
After that, they just get more and more indian

KirillMazur
06-06-2020, 05:21 PM
Lol, the Mughals weren't white. Pictures posted above are mostly imagined portraits by Europeans who had never actually seen them in person. The sculptures are modern.
Whatever the Democrats, Liberals, etc, say we have only 2 types of civilizers - R1a and R1b. All other civilizations appeared only under the influence of these two.
https://pp.userapi.com/c849532/v849532952/925a7/YEBj-3rKQag.jpg

Bender1999
06-06-2020, 05:27 PM
The name "Great Mughals" appeared already under the British colonialists, neither the founder of the Empire, nor his descendants called themselves so. The term "mogul" was used by the population in India to refer to all Muslims in North India and Central Asia.
Appearance - typical R1a Caucasoids.

This is the founder of the Mughal empire - Akbar the Great (1556-1605), the son of Humayun and the grandson of the famous Babur.
https://i.imgur.com/gHHr480.jpg

Babur.
https://i.imgur.com/T0wT7jZ.jpg

A rare image of the Great Mogul, the Emperor of Hindustan - engraving by Francois Jollain, the Elder (1641-1704)
https://i.imgur.com/QCUmt5w.jpg

More engravings.
https://i.imgur.com/VU0uBkj.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/DCDU3Ql.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/Sg6MIww.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/00uJQSQ.jpg

As we see, in all the engravings neither the supreme ruler of Hindustan - the Great Mogul, nor his ministers, nor the Brahmins, nor the judges, nor even the executors of the sentence have anything in their appearance either Mongolian or Indian, or Arabic (Semitic). These are people of the white race.
The Great Mughal of the German engraver Johan Hyde.
https://i.imgur.com/upzIpPw.jpg

Aurangzeb or Alamgir I, the Great Mogul.
https://i.imgur.com/UI4dx7h.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/if0829H.jpg

Akbar the Great, grandson of the founder of the Mughal dynasty in India, Babur (I have already considered him above). Remove the turban, and you get a typical Russian Cossack.
https://i.imgur.com/zFuqNYD.jpg

And this is what the vizier of the Mughal Empire, Shuja ad-Daula Haidar (1732-1775) looked like. Agree, something similar to a wealthy gentleman from Little Russia.
https://i.imgur.com/Tl6YvxS.jpg

The last Great Mogul - Bahadur Shah II (1775-1862) was also white. Note that, judging by these images, the Mughal elite took the purity of blood seriously - the features of the white race were clearly preserved from the first to the last ruler.
https://i.imgur.com/b0EeSVV.jpg


The second picture shows a really bad reconstructed bust. Also i doubt that the other pictures are realistic, except some.


First they looked like Turkmens/Tadjiks/Uzbeks then like Tadjiks/Iranians then like Indians.

Sora
06-06-2020, 08:04 PM
I guess they looked similar to today's Uyghurs & Uzbeks. Then they mixed with Indians. Even their descendants today looks very South Asian.

aklifal
06-06-2020, 08:06 PM
The name "Great Mughals" appeared already under the British colonialists, neither the founder of the Empire, nor his descendants called themselves so. The term "mogul" was used by the population in India to refer to all Muslims in North India and Central Asia.
Appearance - typical R1a Caucasoids.

This is the founder of the Mughal empire - Akbar the Great (1556-1605), the son of Humayun and the grandson of the famous Babur.
https://i.imgur.com/gHHr480.jpg

Babur.
https://i.imgur.com/T0wT7jZ.jpg

A rare image of the Great Mogul, the Emperor of Hindustan - engraving by Francois Jollain, the Elder (1641-1704)
https://i.imgur.com/QCUmt5w.jpg

More engravings.
https://i.imgur.com/VU0uBkj.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/DCDU3Ql.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/Sg6MIww.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/00uJQSQ.jpg

As we see, in all the engravings neither the supreme ruler of Hindustan - the Great Mogul, nor his ministers, nor the Brahmins, nor the judges, nor even the executors of the sentence have anything in their appearance either Mongolian or Indian, or Arabic (Semitic). These are people of the white race.
The Great Mughal of the German engraver Johan Hyde.
https://i.imgur.com/upzIpPw.jpg

Aurangzeb or Alamgir I, the Great Mogul.
https://i.imgur.com/UI4dx7h.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/if0829H.jpg

Akbar the Great, grandson of the founder of the Mughal dynasty in India, Babur (I have already considered him above). Remove the turban, and you get a typical Russian Cossack.
https://i.imgur.com/zFuqNYD.jpg

And this is what the vizier of the Mughal Empire, Shuja ad-Daula Haidar (1732-1775) looked like. Agree, something similar to a wealthy gentleman from Little Russia.
https://i.imgur.com/Tl6YvxS.jpg

The last Great Mogul - Bahadur Shah II (1775-1862) was also white. Note that, judging by these images, the Mughal elite took the purity of blood seriously - the features of the white race were clearly preserved from the first to the last ruler.
https://i.imgur.com/b0EeSVV.jpg

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