Are you closer to Jewish or Gypsies?

[gixajo]

Not many Gypsy average samples out of Iberian peninsula, sorry, so I put some Individual samples from Balkans Roma...:confused:

https://vahaduo.github.io/vahaduo/

SCALED


Jewish:Ethiopian_Jew,-0.2325787,0.1047688,-0.0335008,-0.0824188,0.0011285,-0.0398813,-0.0131997,-0.0005383,0.108091,-0.0688548,-0.0024087,-0.0126887,0.0177897,-0.0003442,0.0225293,-0.0118668,0.0095613,0.0013513,0.0050698,0.0022718, 0.0065717,0.0110462,-0.0041493,0.0030927,-0.0013773
Jewish:Georgian_Jew,0.0993513,0.1299879,-0.0591541,-0.060724,-0.0277854,-0.0134666,0.0002014,-0.0053734,-0.0210953,-0.0040351,0.0032246,-0.0019696,0.0064347,0.0008454,-0.001144,0.007463,0.0010803,-0.0032577,0.0030887,-0.0019116,0.0027631,0.0039216,0.000493,-0.0037524,0.0039344
Jewish:Iranian_Jew,0.092829,0.1321318,-0.0645294,-0.0642411,-0.0321084,-0.0145023,0.0006006,-0.0045128,-0.012067,-0.0026324,0.0063512,-0.002681,0.0113312,-4.6e-05,-0.0018849,0.0097084,-0.0058819,0.0028296,0.005838,-0.0116306,-4.17e-05,-0.0009341,-0.0038618,-0.0004687,0.0005054
Jewish:Iraqi_Jew,0.0891613,0.1404817,-0.0664988,-0.0757435,-0.023081,-0.020452,-0.0008617,-0.0081533,-0.0110443,-0.0013973,0.0038703,-0.0045458,0.0114718,0.0068125,-0.0076457,0.0080882,-0.004933,-0.0005913,0.0031425,-0.0114012,0.000395,-0.0037302,-0.0033483,-0.0038358,0.001996
Jewish:Italian_Jew,0.0949283,0.1456271,-0.0186674,-0.0564927,0.0112941,-0.0245423,-0.003995,-0.002792,0.0128851,0.0191349,0.0045143,0.00021,0.0 021557,-0.0028762,-0.0066097,-0.0012331,-0.0011995,-0.0010515,-0.0011187,-0.0035893,-0.0039059,-0.0015456,-0.000123,0.0023617,0.0028741
Jewish:Libyan_Jew,0.0678384,0.1454238,-0.0288876,-0.0684114,0.004493,-0.0244308,-0.0058282,-0.0046612,0.0199206,0.0201552,0.005391,-0.001049,0.0079088,-0.001514,-0.0005156,0.0023602,-0.0041986,-0.0013936,-0.0061842,-0.0026264,-0.0015972,-0.0079384,0.0079372,-0.0024582,0.0023708
Jewish:Moroccan_Jew,0.0782535,0.1429358,-0.017442,-0.0616122,0.0108482,-0.0191038,-0.0105755,-0.0017308,0.0162595,0.0236908,0.0079165,-0.0028472,0.0062435,-0.0051952,0.0050215,0.0032815,-0.0016625,-0.0044022,-0.0127897,-0.00544,-0.0016532,-0.008532,0.0094902,-0.0015662,0.0010778
Jewish:Mountain_Jew_Chechnya,0.08992,0.128972,-0.056945,-0.057171,-0.036314,-0.013945,-0.00517,-0.011769,-0.017794,0.000729,0.002923,-0.000899,0.011596,-0.003853,-0.002714,0.012729,-0.001304,0.005194,0.005656,-0.006628,-0.007237,0.004451,-0.007272,0.005543,0.007544
Jewish:Romaniote_Jew,0.0920339,0.1440601,-0.0258057,-0.0645539,0.0050117,-0.023068,-0.0058414,-0.0043184,0.009145,0.018536,0.0056139,0.0011133,0. 0019961,-0.0001964,-0.0068247,-0.0015723,0.0007264,-0.0024976,-0.0007363,-0.0005004,-0.0008734,0.0003886,0.0003699,0.0010844,0.0013341
Jewish:Sephardic_Jew,0.0909445,0.1435961,-0.0216466,-0.0576555,0.00437,-0.0204705,-0.004841,-0.0021229,0.0105943,0.0195903,0.0046282,0.0004946, 0.0006837,-0.0007294,-0.0051845,-0.0035535,-0.0060366,0.0007095,-0.0024133,-0.0057653,-0.0038057,-0.0059724,0.0015282,0.002892,0.0017364
Jewish:Syrian_Jew,0.0870745,0.142682,-0.0358265,-0.066538,-0.005847,-0.0220325,-0.0043475,-0.002423,0.0006135,0.008383,0.0064145,0.0004495,0. 0055,-0.0002065,-0.0001355,0.0007955,-0.003977,-0.002534,-0.0037705,-0.004815,0.001248,-0.003277,0.0030195,-0.001807,0.002335
Jewish:Tunisian_Jew,0.0705704,0.1462363,-0.0282301,-0.0737363,0.0034731,-0.0259767,-0.0077214,0.0003953,0.0204524,0.0212436,0.0057996,-0.0033186,0.0071571,0.000413,-0.0005236,-0.0029927,-0.0033343,-0.0013937,-0.0067159,-0.0022689,-0.0038147,-0.0082849,0.0036096,0.00136,0.0019329
Jewish:Yemenite_Jew,0.051383,0.1447854,-0.0632486,-0.114066,-0.0118263,-0.0466941,-0.0134963,-0.0088677,0.0489689,-0.006274,0.0113209,-0.0266121,0.0539851,0.0032439,0.0035287,0.0171607,-0.0245497,0.003475,0.0064106,0.0249583,0.012888,0. 0159867,-0.0070954,0.0046479,-0.0068941
Jewish:Ashkenazi_Belarussia,0.1019155,0.1339716,-0.0073393,-0.0395799,0.0107712,-0.0144595,-0.0010123,-0.0010294,0.0057267,0.0146208,0.0024485,-0.0003688,0.00231,-0.001461,-0.002944,0.0027944,0.0018154,-0.0003409,0.0014889,-0.0012602,-0.0038586,-0.0007705,0.0027399,0.0015665,-0.0002949
Jewish:Ashkenazi_Germany,0.0973188,0.1423773,-0.014406,-0.0499358,0.010925,-0.0187694,-0.001974,-0.0017538,0.0098579,0.0188432,0.0039622,-0.0011239,0.0025123,-0.0026699,-0.0050489,0.0030892,0.0022035,-0.0016977,-0.0007794,-0.0011255,-0.0033441,-0.0026957,0.0008751,0.0013857,0.0008143
Jewish:Ashkenazi_Lithuania,0.0998539,0.1327575,-0.0092224,-0.040375,0.0094843,-0.0141475,-0.0005555,-0.001175,0.0060613,0.0137009,0.0015499,-0.0018529,0.0025678,0.0006257,-0.0044417,0.0034595,0.0016001,0.0001612,0.0004455,-0.0031721,-0.0032555,-0.0033497,0.0029245,0.0024428,-0.001056
Jewish:Ashkenazi_Poland,0.1001169,0.1368425,-0.0073382,-0.0429994,0.0097966,-0.0154087,-0.0008812,-0.0008942,0.0081981,0.0142751,0.0011639,-0.0005932,0.0028802,0.0001662,-0.0041451,-0.001674,-0.0037648,3.18e-05,-0.0008065,-0.0040645,-0.0026776,-0.0022721,0.0016895,0.002169,0.0015267
Jewish:Ashkenazi_Russia,0.1011888,0.131511,-0.0064488,-0.0382755,0.0103711,-0.014335,-0.0019505,-0.0001847,0.0065447,0.0140506,0.0011205,0.0002997, 0.0021408,0.0003303,-0.0050352,-0.0002651,-0.0012125,-0.0005701,-0.0021367,-0.0031266,-0.0035687,-0.0029553,0.0006286,0.0045788,-0.0012214
Jewish:Ashkenazi_Ukraine,0.0994244,0.1351162,-0.005506,-0.0401166,0.0120483,-0.0142652,-0.0010928,0.0001154,0.007772,0.0129388,0.0008038,0 .0001125,0.0024156,0.0005229,-0.0028297,-0.0018297,-0.0043223,-1.9e-05,0.0012758,-0.0046772,-0.0031258,-0.0025904,0.0007702,0.0021028,0.0010059
Roma:Balkans,0.0910587,0.06364,-0.0588307,0.0249787,-0.0187723,0.013108,0.0003917,0.0025387,0.0167027,0 .0148823,0.0003787,-0.0003497,0.0009417,0.008762,-0.0105407,-0.0052153,0.008866,0.003125,0.0015083,0.0010007,-0.0020797,0.0001237,-0.0006573,-0.0040163,-0.0012773
Roma:Bilbao,0.0899203,0.0734564,-0.041609,0.0189852,-0.000205,0.0159897,-0.0002089,0.0022562,0.0200889,0.0222934,-0.0016779,0.0004662,-9.9e-05,0.0060402,-0.0074647,-0.0083236,-0.0005503,0.0002252,0.0002374,-6.93e-05,-0.0009982,0.0015112,0.0005751,-0.0017138,0.0002662
Roma:Granada,0.0835176,0.0731181,-0.0465742,0.0162711,-0.0063473,0.0122361,0.0011456,0.0055381,0.0210406, 0.0205242,-0.0004466,0.0006182,-0.0060392,0.0027181,-0.0074306,-0.0054694,0.0022652,-0.0032939,-0.0019012,0.0009066,-0.0017158,-0.0018236,-0.0014172,-0.0025908,0.0040864
Roma:Madrid,0.0935626,0.088554,-0.031829,0.0155686,0.004247,0.0076974,0.0055462,0. 0038308,0.0166482,0.0251852,0.003475,-0.0003896,-0.005976,-0.0011558,-0.0005156,-0.0018298,0.0033118,0.0001266,-0.0006788,0.0013508,0.0013226,0.0031902,0.0040916,-0.000988,0.0011974
Roma:Balkans:GS000014325,0.088782,0.05687,-0.073161,0.020349,-0.018157,0.014781,-0.003525,0.001385,0.018407,0.019317,0.001299,-0.001499,-0.000595,0.008395,-0.0095,-0.011403,0.013038,0.0019,-0.00088,0.007879,-0.000749,0.004081,-0.000493,-0.002892,0.001557
Roma:Balkans:GS000014352,0.087644,0.054839,-0.07203,0.026809,-0.026466,0.013666,-0.00094,0.004154,0.016771,0.017312,-0.002761,0.00015,0.002825,0.006193,-0.009093,-0.004243,0.003651,0.005068,0.000754,-0.002501,-0.001996,-0.002226,-0.001849,-0.001325,-0.003832
Roma:Balkans:GS000015870,0.09675,0.079211,-0.031301,0.027778,-0.011694,0.010877,0.00564,0.002077,0.01493,0.00801 8,0.002598,3e-04,0.000595,0.011698,-0.013029,0,0.009909,0.002407,0.004651,-0.002376,-0.003494,-0.001484,0.00037,-0.007832,-0.001557
Roma:Porto,0.0885546,0.076774,-0.0454806,0.0208658,-0.0057856,0.0162314,0.002914,0.0046612,0.0159528,0 .0229618,-0.002923,0.0030276,-0.007195,0.0036884,-0.0096634,-0.009573,0.0002606,-0.001495,2e-07,0.006678,-0.0017222,-0.0037344,0.0019966,0.001639,-0.0032572

[gixajo]

Target: gixajo_scaled
Distance: 8.9464% / 0.08946373
83.4 Jewish
16.6 Roma

Distance to: gixajo_scaled
0.09055250 Jewish:Ashkenazi_Ukraine
0.09128657 Jewish:Ashkenazi_Russia
0.09142106 Jewish:Ashkenazi_Belarussia
0.09356885 Jewish:Ashkenazi_Poland
0.09486127 Jewish:Ashkenazi_Lithuania
0.10026788 Jewish:Ashkenazi_Germany
0.10758526 Jewish:Italian_Jew
0.11309811 Jewish:Sephardic_Jew
0.11369837 Roma:Madrid
0.11471945 Jewish:Moroccan_Jew
0.11962938 Jewish:Romaniote_Jew
0.11962938 Jewish:Romaniote_Jew
0.13137733 Jewish:Libyan_Jew
0.13341273 Jewish:Tunisian_Jew
0.13344680 Roma:Balkans:GS000015870
0.13381197 Roma:Bilbao
0.13443846 Jewish:Syrian_Jew
0.13716710 Roma:Porto
0.13980167 Roma:Granada
0.15958124 Roma:Balkans
0.16186383 Jewish:Georgian_Jew
0.16532988 Jewish:Mountain_Jew_Chechnya
0.16832925 Jewish:Iranian_Jew
0.17178462 Jewish:Iraqi_Jew

[Peloponnesian pride]

looool

[Lucas]

Not many Gypsy average samples out of Iberian peninsula, sorry, so I put some Individual samples from Balkans Roma...:confused:
]

There are two Romanian samples which are in fact Roma in G25. Or were.

[Defcon2]

Target: Juan_scaled
Distance: 7.8899% / 0.07889949
74.6 Jewish
25.4 Roma

Distance to: Juan_scaled
0.08172275 Jewish:Ashkenazi_Ukraine
0.08253838 Jewish:Ashkenazi_Russia
0.08472813 Jewish:Ashkenazi_Belarussia
0.08486675 Jewish:Ashkenazi_Poland
0.08701262 Jewish:Ashkenazi_Lithuania
0.09222092 Jewish:Ashkenazi_Germany
0.09779030 Jewish:Italian_Jew
0.10088667 Roma:Madrid
0.10107408 Jewish:Sephardic_Jew
0.10272499 Jewish:Moroccan_Jew
0.10972940 Jewish:Romaniote_Jew
0.11795816 Jewish:Libyan_Jew
0.11852387 Roma:Bilbao
0.12004466 Jewish:Tunisian_Jew
0.12126021 Roma:Porto
0.12394999 Roma:Granada
0.12396881 Roma:Balkans:GS000015870
0.12483918 Jewish:Syrian_Jew
0.14675138 Roma:Balkans
0.15533740 Jewish:Georgian_Jew
0.15695637 Jewish:Mountain_Jew_Chechnya
0.15864419 Roma:Balkans:GS000014325
0.15981431 Jewish:Iranian_Jew
0.16193573 Roma:Balkans:GS000014352
0.16286859 Jewish:Iraqi_Jew

xD

[gixajo]

There are two Romanian samples which are in fact Roma in G25. Or were.

Which ones?

[gixajo]

Target: Juan_scaled


xD

Las bestias negras de todo nacionalista europeo!!!

[Adamm]

Distance to: Adam_scaled
0.11741031 Jewish:Libyan_Jew
0.11907944 Jewish:Tunisian_Jew
0.12133227 Jewish:Moroccan_Jew
0.14247840 Jewish:Sephardic_Jew
0.14393702 Jewish:Italian_Jew
0.14470743 Jewish:Romaniote_Jew
0.14634861 Jewish:Syrian_Jew
0.14778418 Jewish:Ashkenazi_Germany
0.15227014 Jewish:Yemenite_Jew
0.15250403 Jewish:Ashkenazi_Poland
0.15335007 Jewish:Ashkenazi_Ukraine
0.15460215 Jewish:Ashkenazi_Lithuania
0.15535050 Jewish:Ashkenazi_Russia
0.15625801 Jewish:Ashkenazi_Belarussia
0.17258518 Jewish:Iraqi_Jew
0.17972959 Jewish:Iranian_Jew
0.18079806 Jewish:Mountain_Jew_Chechnya
0.18363219 Jewish:Georgian_Jew
0.18476493 Roma:Madrid
0.18839852 Roma:Granada
0.19260979 Roma:Bilbao
0.19532951 Roma:Porto
0.20219694 Roma:Balkans:GS000015870
0.20835825 Roma:Balkans
0.21170412 Roma:Balkans:GS000014325

[mitalit]

Target: Xabier_scaled
Distance: 8.2723% / 0.08272315
77.0 Jewish
23.0 Roma

Lol, I'm not a Jew ... This calculator is wrong, dislike.

[Adamm]

Target: Xabier_scaled
Distance: 8.2723% / 0.08272315
77.0 Jewish
23.0 Roma

Lol, I'm not a Jew ... This calculator is wrong, dislike.

The purpose here is to see your distances.

[mitalit]

The purpose here is to see your distances.

was a joke haha
Distance to: Xabier_scaled
0.08492013 Jewish:Ashkenazi_Russia
0.08493811 Jewish:Ashkenazi_Belarussia
0.08504288 Jewish:Ashkenazi_Ukraine
0.08829458 Jewish:Ashkenazi_Poland
0.08837291 Jewish:Ashkenazi_Lithuania
0.09565977 Jewish:Ashkenazi_Germany
0.10409172 Jewish:Italian_Jew
0.10489749 Roma:Madrid
0.10930751 Jewish:Sephardic_Jew
0.11096467 Jewish:Moroccan_Jew
0.11549829 Jewish:Romaniote_Jew
0.12472623 Roma:Balkans:GS000015870
0.12591171 Roma:Bilbao
0.12799226 Roma:Porto
0.12805244 Jewish:Libyan_Jew
0.12923386 Jewish:Syrian_Jew
0.13015907 Jewish:Tunisian_Jew
0.13030492 Roma:Granada
0.15091736 Roma:Balkans
0.15372198 Jewish:Georgian_Jew
0.15733942 Jewish:Mountain_Jew_Chechnya
0.16212408 Jewish:Iranian_Jew
0.16367480 Roma:Balkans:GS000014325
0.16678029 Jewish:Iraqi_Jew
0.16773074 Roma:Balkans:GS000014352

[Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas]

Target: Viriato_scaled
Distance: 7.2550% / 0.07255005
87.2 Jewish
12.8 Roma


Distance to: Viriato_scaled
0.07334614 Jewish:Ashkenazi_Ukraine
0.07556842 Jewish:Ashkenazi_Russia
0.07680969 Jewish:Ashkenazi_Poland
0.07684208 Jewish:Ashkenazi_Belarussia
0.07949477 Jewish:Ashkenazi_Lithuania
0.08539416 Jewish:Ashkenazi_Germany
0.09156241 Jewish:Italian_Jew
0.09505849 Jewish:Sephardic_Jew
0.09666774 Jewish:Moroccan_Jew
0.10319759 Roma:Madrid
0.10391113 Jewish:Romaniote_Jew
0.11244913 Jewish:Libyan_Jew
0.11472219 Jewish:Tunisian_Jew
0.11709567 Jewish:Syrian_Jew
0.12172625 Roma:Bilbao
0.12321050 Roma:Balkans:GS000015870
0.12504872 Roma:Porto
0.12670300 Roma:Granada
0.14742447 Jewish:Georgian_Jew
0.14845585 Roma:Balkans
0.15076561 Jewish:Mountain_Jew_Chechnya
0.15258005 Jewish:Iranian_Jew
0.15538324 Jewish:Iraqi_Jew
0.16158733 Roma:Balkans:GS000014325
0.16424872 Roma:Balkans:GS000014352

[Nassbean]

Distance to: Nassbean_scaled
0.12057261 Jewish:Libyan_Jew
0.12260369 Jewish:Moroccan_Jew
0.12263642 Jewish:Tunisian_Jew
0.14326400 Jewish:Sephardic_Jew
0.14506420 Jewish:Italian_Jew
0.14668289 Jewish:Romaniote_Jew
0.14765688 Jewish:Ashkenazi_Germany
0.14984283 Jewish:Syrian_Jew
0.15246166 Jewish:Ashkenazi_Poland
0.15291436 Jewish:Ashkenazi_Ukraine
0.15387079 Jewish:Ashkenazi_Lithuania
0.15425074 Jewish:Ashkenazi_Russia
0.15527435 Jewish:Ashkenazi_Belarussia
0.16336021 Jewish:Yemenite_Jew
0.17555578 Roma:Madrid
0.17793906 Jewish:Iraqi_Jew
0.17966700 Roma:Granada
0.18220007 Jewish:Mountain_Jew_Chechnya
0.18279564 Jewish:Iranian_Jew
0.18414653 Roma:Bilbao
0.18535545 Roma:Porto
0.18643628 Jewish:Georgian_Jew
0.19589151 Roma:Balkans:GS000015870
0.20101521 Roma:Balkans
0.20401800 Roma:Balkans:GS000014325

[PT Tagus]

Target: Endovelicus_scaled
Distance: 6.9432% / 0.06943166
91.4 Jewish
8.6 Roma


Distance to: Endovelicus_scaled
0.06987151 Jewish:Ashkenazi_Ukraine
0.07186776 Jewish:Ashkenazi_Russia
0.07296135 Jewish:Ashkenazi_Belarussia
0.07301249 Jewish:Ashkenazi_Poland
0.07550189 Jewish:Ashkenazi_Lithuania
0.07988364 Jewish:Ashkenazi_Germany
0.08612562 Jewish:Italian_Jew
0.08824484 Jewish:Moroccan_Jew
0.08966937 Jewish:Sephardic_Jew
0.09692117 Jewish:Romaniote_Jew
0.10319345 Jewish:Libyan_Jew
0.10359955 Roma:Madrid
0.10589625 Jewish:Tunisian_Jew
0.11027550 Jewish:Syrian_Jew
0.12232379 Roma:Bilbao
0.12513823 Roma:Balkans:GS000015870
0.12569609 Roma:Porto
0.12696716 Roma:Granada
0.14215343 Jewish:Georgian_Jew
0.14370001 Jewish:Mountain_Jew_Chechnya
0.14682632 Jewish:Iranian_Jew
0.14907912 Roma:Balkans
0.14934205 Jewish:Iraqi_Jew
0.16141448 Roma:Balkans:GS000014325
0.16465436 Roma:Balkans:GS000014352

[gixajo]

Target: Xabier_scaled
Distance: 8.2723% / 0.08272315
77.0 Jewish
23.0 Roma

Lol, I'm not a Jew ... This calculator is wrong, dislike.

:jew::patpat:

[Gallop]

Target: Gallop_scaled
Distance: 8.5123% / 0.08512271
84.0 Jewish
16.0 Roma

Distance to: Gallop_scaled
0.08619323 Jewish:Ashkenazi_Ukraine
0.08750485 Jewish:Ashkenazi_Russia
0.08752891 Jewish:Ashkenazi_Belarussia
0.08927187 Jewish:Ashkenazi_Poland
0.09071765 Jewish:Ashkenazi_Lithuania
0.09626956 Jewish:Ashkenazi_Germany
0.10352598 Jewish:Italian_Jew
0.10761273 Jewish:Moroccan_Jew
0.10810049 Jewish:Sephardic_Jew
0.11060661 Roma:Madrid
0.11481382 Jewish:Romaniote_Jew
0.12395505 Jewish:Libyan_Jew
0.12648041 Jewish:Tunisian_Jew
0.12831619 Jewish:Syrian_Jew
0.13070126 Roma:Balkans:GS000015870
0.13101939 Roma:Bilbao
0.13388196 Roma:Porto
0.13561478 Roma:Granada
0.15667160 Roma:Balkans
0.15696308 Jewish:Georgian_Jew
0.16127398 Jewish:Mountain_Jew_Chechnya
0.16347357 Jewish:Iranian_Jew
0.16711324 Jewish:Iraqi_Jew
0.16957602 Roma:Balkans:GS000014325
0.17306255 Roma:Balkans:GS000014352
0.20968626 Jewish:Yemenite_Jew
0.38928501 Jewish:Ethiopian_Jew

Lo que no haría un padre...

[gixajo]

The bravest of the forum are here:fear::smokin01:

[Vojnik]

<tbody>
Target: Vojnik_scaled
Distance: 6.1369% / 0.06136929




86.4
Jewish





13.6
Roma

</tbody>


<tbody>
Distance to:
Vojnik_scaled


0.06284207
Jewish:Ashkenazi_Belarussia


0.06342340
Jewish:Ashkenazi_Russia


0.06374329
Jewish:Ashkenazi_Ukraine


0.06524622
Jewish:Ashkenazi_Lithuania


0.06698287
Jewish:Ashkenazi_Poland


0.07652737
Jewish:Ashkenazi_Germany


0.08634124
Jewish:Italian_Jew


0.09034498
Jewish:Sephardic_Jew


0.09595686
Jewish:Romaniote_Jew


0.09774020
Roma:Madrid


0.09941290
Jewish:Moroccan_Jew


0.10583092
Roma:Balkans:GS000015870


0.10678247
Jewish:Syrian_Jew


0.11345101
Jewish:Libyan_Jew


0.11534503
Roma:Bilbao


0.11581453
Jewish:Tunisian_Jew


0.11807635
Roma:Porto


0.12165006
Roma:Granada


0.12454872
Jewish:Georgian_Jew


0.12851518
Jewish:Mountain_Jew_Chechnya


0.13222616
Jewish:Iranian_Jew


0.13561796
Roma:Balkans


0.13693951
Jewish:Iraqi_Jew


0.15059129
Roma:Balkans:GS000014325


0.15313494
Roma:Balkans:GS000014352


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[Gründig]

far.

Distance: 10.3721% / 0.10372085
65.2 Jewish
34.8 Roma

[Vojnik]

Who would be closer to Roma in this calculator? I don't even think Mortimer will be.

[paradox]

Target: scaled
Distance: 4.3444% / 0.04344405
84.4 Jewish
15.6 Roma

Distance to: scaled
0.04572284 Jewish:Ashkenazi_Russia
0.04633874 Jewish:Ashkenazi_Belarussia
0.04697116 Jewish:Ashkenazi_Ukraine
0.04771180 Jewish:Ashkenazi_Lithuania
0.04947097 Jewish:Ashkenazi_Poland
0.06005867 Jewish:Ashkenazi_Germany
0.06967240 Jewish:Italian_Jew
0.07320925 Jewish:Sephardic_Jew
0.07872952 Jewish:Romaniote_Jew
0.08535088 Jewish:Moroccan_Jew
0.08685277 Roma:Madrid
0.08839159Jewish:Syrian_Jew
0.09482384 Roma:Balkans:GS000015870
0.09783958 Jewish:Libyan_Jew
0.09977333 Jewish:Tunisian_Jew
0.10372800 Roma:Bilbao
0.10477679 Jewish:Georgian_Jew
0.10677005 Roma:Porto
0.10850468 Roma:Granada
0.10867726
Jewish:Mountain_Jew_Chechnya
0.11256631 Jewish:Iranian_Jew
0.11672116 Jewish:Iraqi_Jew
0.12249809 Roma:Balkans
0.13684666 Roma:Balkans:GS000014325
0.13946437 Roma:Balkans:GS000014352


My father's

Target: Father_scaled
Distance: 6.8251% / 0.06825069
82.2 Jewish
17.8 Roma

Distance to: Father_scaled
0.07060032 Jewish:Ashkenazi_Ukraine
0.07105971 Jewish:Ashkenazi_Russia
0.07296557 Jewish:Ashkenazi_Belarussia
0.07406019 Jewish:Ashkenazi_Poland
0.07465699 Jewish:Ashkenazi_Lithuania
0.08675931 Jewish:Ashkenazi_Germany
0.09480734 Jewish:Italian_Jew
0.09798091 Jewish:Sephardic_Jew
0.10119869 Roma:Madrid
0.10574202 Jewish:Romaniote_Jew
0.10778286 Roma:Balkans:GS000015870
0.10864900 Jewish:Moroccan_Jew
0.11528814 Jewish:Syrian_Jew
0.11663006 Roma:Bilbao
0.12052701 Roma:Porto
0.12199592 Jewish:Libyan_Jew
0.12327862 Roma:Granada
0.12376965 Jewish:Tunisian_Jew
0.13330261 Jewish:Georgian_Jew
0.13626209 Jewish:Mountain_Jew_Chechnya
0.13803299 Roma:Balkans
0.14001599 Jewish:Iranian_Jew
0.14473757 Jewish:Iraqi_Jew
0.15384986 Roma:Balkans:GS000014325
0.15499655 Roma:Balkans:GS000014352

[gixajo]

Who would be closer to Roma in this calculator? I don't even think Mortimer will be.

There are not many south eastern and central Europe Roma samples, most of them are from Spain or Portugal.

[Grace O'Malley]

Slightly closer to Roma.

Target: Grace_scaled
Distance: 13.0567% / 0.13056731
51.2 Roma
48.8 Jewish

Distance to: Grace_scaled
0.13689741 Roma:Madrid
0.13710566 Jewish:Ashkenazi_Russia
0.13747224 Jewish:Ashkenazi_Ukraine
0.13779666 Jewish:Ashkenazi_Belarussia
0.14067591 Jewish:Ashkenazi_Lithuania
0.14136716 Jewish:Ashkenazi_Poland
0.14509953 Roma:Balkans:GS000015870
0.15204290 Jewish:Ashkenazi_Germany
0.15289178 Roma:Bilbao
0.15543563 Roma:Porto
0.16011121 Roma:Granada
0.16148829 Jewish:Italian_Jew
0.16523598 Jewish:Sephardic_Jew
0.16965949 Jewish:Moroccan_Jew
0.17191383 Jewish:Romaniote_Jew
0.17355052 Roma:Balkans
0.18049003 Jewish:Syrian_Jew
0.18581307 Jewish:Libyan_Jew
0.18854351 Jewish:Tunisian_Jew
0.18875600 Roma:Balkans:GS000014325
0.18928335 Roma:Balkans:GS000014352
0.19372584 Jewish:Georgian_Jew
0.19695063 Jewish:Mountain_Jew_Chechnya
0.20257823 Jewish:Iranian_Jew
0.21130871 Jewish:Iraqi_Jew

[Coastal Elite]

Target: DacoCeltic_scaled
Distance: 9.0318% / 0.09031828
65.8 Jewish
34.2 Roma

Distance to: DacoCeltic_scaled
0.09476879 Jewish:Ashkenazi_Russia
0.09557170 Jewish:Ashkenazi_Belarussia
0.09565114 Jewish:Ashkenazi_Ukraine
0.09831212 Jewish:Ashkenazi_Lithuania
0.09946115 Jewish:Ashkenazi_Poland
0.10508939 Roma:Madrid
0.11050463 Jewish:Ashkenazi_Germany
0.11458897 Roma:Balkans:GS000015870
0.12007179 Jewish:Italian_Jew
0.12266517 Roma:Bilbao
0.12371327 Jewish:Sephardic_Jew
0.12471154 Roma:Porto
0.12990154 Roma:Granada
0.13041762 Jewish:Romaniote_Jew
0.13156829 Jewish:Moroccan_Jew
0.14075641 Jewish:Syrian_Jew
0.14438123 Roma:Balkans
0.14715794 Jewish:Libyan_Jew
0.14958322 Jewish:Tunisian_Jew
0.15553749 Jewish:Georgian_Jew
0.15930339 Jewish:Mountain_Jew_Chechnya
0.15984104 Roma:Balkans:GS000014325
0.16127481 Roma:Balkans:GS000014352
0.16423688 Jewish:Iranian_Jew

[Gaditanian]

There are not many south eastern and central Europe Roma samples, most of them are from Spain or Portugal.

¿Conoces algún kit de gitanos andaluces?

Hay algunos estudios que dicen que los gitanos de andalucía son en su mayoría descendientes de moriscos y judíos sefardíes que aprovecharon la "similitud física" con los gitanos para camuflarse entre ellos y de este modo dejar de ser perseguidos por su condición de "conversos".

Los gitanos, al ser en los primeros siglos del XIV al XVII una minoría más bien marginal, parece que acogieron de buen agrado en sus comunidades a estos conversos.

Esto provoca una explosión demográfica de la comunidad gitana que incluso hace despertar el recelo de las autoridades.

Esto también explicaría porque los gitanos son más abundantes en el sur de España que en el norte, cuando debería ser al contrario teniendo en cuenta que entraron por el norte.


«El gitano nunca fue - ni es - hombre del campo. ¿Cómo, de pronto - y precisamente a los veinte o veinticinco años de ser expulsados los moriscos -, aparecen referencias de gitanos dedicados a las labores agrícolas? ¿Y cómo es que las leyes les obligan a ellas, conociendo el legislador su tradicional ineptitud para tal menester?» (Barrios, Manuel: Gitanos, moriscos y cante flamenco. Sevilla: Rodríguez Castillejo, S. A., 1989, p. 89)

Toda persona que no sea de su raza es gachó. El gachó es, a sus ojos, el extranjero, el hombre apegado a la tierra, el siervo, el campesino, el sedentario. (De Vaux)

Aumento de la población gitana en el primer tercio del siglo XVII:

A mediados del siglo XV, los gitanos forman un grupo reducido. ¿Cómo es que, a partir del primer tercio del siglo XVII, esta población gitana aumenta de forma tan espectacular? En las pragmáticas contra los gitanos se reiteran siempre fórmulas como

... por cuento estos que se dicen gitanos no lo son por origen ni naturaleza ..., que viven con nombre de gitanos ..., gitanos que hoy tienen ese nombre ... (9 de mayo de 1633)

... a los que se dicen gitanos ... los gitanos, o los que se reputan y llaman comúnmente con este nombre ... (1746)

Y en documentos eclesiales:

... somos informados que en este obispado hay muchos que se llaman gitanos, los cuales viven con mucha libertad ...

«Al ser ferozmente perseguidos, los moriscos han de acogerse a un recurso extremo que les libre del peligro cierto a perder la vida. Salvo casos que debieron de ser excepcionales, no pueden hacerse pasar por castellanos viejos, porque los delatan el acento arábigo y el color de su piel. Entonces deciden la única forma de pasar inadvertidos: unirse a los gitanos - sucesores de los que llegaron con la retaguardia de los ejércitos sarracenos -, en un reencuentro que viene a restablecer el hermanamiento de otros siglos.» (M. Barrios, o. cit., 94)

También explicaría porque son los gitanos los "herederos" del flamenco, cuando se supone que es de creación morisca.


los moriscos se unieron a los gitanos; pasando por gitanos podían "legalizar" su situación. Los que conocían perfectamente el castellano se hacían pasar por "cristianos viejos", pero siempre existía el peligro de que su "acento" los delatara. «¿Qué podían hacer los moriscos que permanecieron en España o volvieron a ella, sino unirse a las tribus gitanas, "hermanos de todos los perseguidos"?» (o. cit., 84)

Al inicio de la centuria pasada era opinión general en Andalucía que los gitanos eran moros o descendientes de moros así disfrazados para burlar los edictos de expulsión (1609-14) y las persecuciones de la inquisición (...) Modernamente, historiadores de la "cuestión morisca" e historiadores del XVI-XVII español consideran que no pocos moriscos debieron ser acogidos por las bandas de vagabundos y gitanos, sobre todo en las ciudades andaluzas. (cit. M. Barrios, o. cit., 86)

«Ya es bantante significativo que moriscos y gitanos compartan los nuevos apellidos castellanos, como lo es el hecho de que aquellos lugares y enclaves donde hubo una mayor población morisca, sean, precisamente, en los que se asentó el mayor número de gitanos: Albaicín, de Granada, Las Alpujarras, el barrio sevillano de Triana, Lebrija, Marchena, Utrera ... y Jerez de la Frontera.» (íbd., p. 87)

[JamesBond007]

The purpose here is to see your distances.

What ? the average F(st) distance to any one random global population is about 15 (0.15...) I think so I am not closely related to Jews or Gypsies :

Target: Kevin_scaled
Distance: 12.2977% / 0.12297671
55.8 Roma
44.2 Jewish



Distance to: Kevin_scaled
0.12824102 Roma:Madrid
0.13124985 Jewish:Ashkenazi_Russia
0.13126579 Jewish:Ashkenazi_Belarussia
0.13212359 Jewish:Ashkenazi_Ukraine
0.13387286 Jewish:Ashkenazi_Lithuania
0.13612032 Jewish:Ashkenazi_Poland
0.13683813 Roma:Balkans:GS000015870
0.14561550 Roma:Bilbao
0.14564103 Jewish:Ashkenazi_Germany
0.14770405 Roma:Porto
0.15188584 Roma:Granada
0.15576396 Jewish:Italian_Jew
0.15981911 Jewish:Sephardic_Jew
0.16372932 Jewish:Moroccan_Jew
0.16584629 Roma:Balkans
0.16624469 Jewish:Romaniote_Jew
0.17553026 Jewish:Syrian_Jew
0.17915871 Jewish:Libyan_Jew
0.18152861 Roma:Balkans:GS000014325
0.18162929 Roma:Balkans:GS000014352
0.18278563 Jewish:Tunisian_Jew
0.18853356 Jewish:Georgian_Jew
0.18993689 Jewish:Mountain_Jew_Chechnya
0.19701846 Jewish:Iranian_Jew
0.20599227 Jewish:Iraqi_Jew

[gixajo]

¿Conoces algún kit de gitanos andaluces?

Hay algunos estudios que dicen que los gitanos de andalucía son en su mayoría descendientes de moriscos y judíos sefardíes que aprovecharon la "similitud física" con los gitanos para camuflarse entre ellos y de este modo dejar de ser perseguidos por su condición de "conversos".

Los gitanos, al ser en los primeros siglos del XIV al XVII una minoría más bien marginal, parece que acogieron de buen agrado en sus comunidades a estos conversos.

Esto provoca una explosión demográfica de la comunidad gitana que incluso hace despertar el recelo de las autoridades.

Esto también explicaría porque los gitanos son más abundantes en el sur de España que en el norte, cuando debería ser al contrario teniendo en cuenta que entraron por el norte.



También explicaría porque son los gitanos los "herederos" del flamenco, cuando se supone que es de creación morisca.

Las muestras son las que son, no hay mucho más, salvo en los samples individuales de donde se sacaron las medias españolas. Fuera de España o Portugal, o no tienen interés en sacarles muestras, o simplemente existen pero aún no se han incorporado a los datasources aún.

Antes se creía que los gitanos eran Egipcios, y si me suena que se les relacionaba con moriscos, pero pensé que era una forma de explicar el aspecto diferente de los que están menos mezclados.

[Gallop]

Creo que el flamenco puede tener aportaciones gitanas y alguna pincelada que recuerde a lo morisco pero sin la base del folclore andaluz jamás habría existido ya que la música gitana de otros países es átona y arrítmica a diferencia del flamenco que tiene tono y ritmo por lo que podría servir para vislumbrar antiguos cánticos íberos más que centrarse en pequeñas aportaciones que por sí mismas no habrían podido crear el flamenco.

Poli saturado del tema morisco y otras minorías, sobre todo porque los españoles no lo tenemos en mente y cuando se utiliza en nuestro país en la poesía, letras de canciones e.t.c. es de forma retórica o poética.

No se habla de otra cosa en relación a nosotros de forma que al final acabamos hablando nosotros mismos y de forma forzada porque es algo que no vivimos y ni nos acordamos y como ya he dicho no tenemos en mente, no me extraña que tantos españoles acaben abandonando este tipo de foros.

[gixajo]

What ? the average F(st) distance to any one random global population is about 15 (0.15...) I think so I am not closely related to Jews or Gypsies :

Target: Kevin_scaled
Distance: 12.2977% / 0.12297671
55.8 Roma
44.2 Jewish



Distance to: Kevin_scaled
0.12824102 Roma:Madrid
0.13124985 Jewish:Ashkenazi_Russia
0.13126579 Jewish:Ashkenazi_Belarussia
0.13212359 Jewish:Ashkenazi_Ukraine
0.13387286 Jewish:Ashkenazi_Lithuania
0.13612032 Jewish:Ashkenazi_Poland
0.13683813 Roma:Balkans:GS000015870
0.14561550 Roma:Bilbao
0.14564103 Jewish:Ashkenazi_Germany
0.14770405 Roma:Porto
0.15188584 Roma:Granada
0.15576396 Jewish:Italian_Jew
0.15981911 Jewish:Sephardic_Jew
0.16372932 Jewish:Moroccan_Jew
0.16584629 Roma:Balkans
0.16624469 Jewish:Romaniote_Jew
0.17553026 Jewish:Syrian_Jew
0.17915871 Jewish:Libyan_Jew
0.18152861 Roma:Balkans:GS000014325
0.18162929 Roma:Balkans:GS000014352
0.18278563 Jewish:Tunisian_Jew
0.18853356 Jewish:Georgian_Jew
0.18993689 Jewish:Mountain_Jew_Chechnya
0.19701846 Jewish:Iranian_Jew
0.20599227 Jewish:Iraqi_Jew

You know perfectly that all this calculators we do are more for fun than any proof of anything, we are all aficionados.:D

[SUPREEEEEME]

Can't say I expected any different:

Distance to: SUPREEEEEME_scaled
0.02144095 Jewish:Ashkenazi_Ukraine
0.02236634 Jewish:Ashkenazi_Poland
0.02270358 Jewish:Ashkenazi_Russia
0.02649014 Jewish:Ashkenazi_Lithuania
0.02740881 Jewish:Ashkenazi_Belarussia
0.03484105 Jewish:Ashkenazi_Germany
0.04023946 Jewish:Sephardic_Jew
0.04176451 Jewish:Italian_Jew
0.05020086 Jewish:Romaniote_Jew
0.05046451 Jewish:Moroccan_Jew
0.05775409 Jewish:Syrian_Jew
0.06377446 Jewish:Libyan_Jew
0.06450572 Jewish:Tunisian_Jew
0.08249539 Roma:Madrid
0.08613157 Jewish:Georgian_Jew
0.08985767 Jewish:Mountain_Jew_Chechnya
0.09017787 Jewish:Iranian_Jew
0.09339377 Jewish:Iraqi_Jew
0.09903131 Roma:Bilbao
0.10094226 Roma:Granada
0.10104329 Roma:Balkans:GS000015870
0.10136922 Roma:Porto
0.11975173 Roma:Balkans
0.13086387 Roma:Balkans:GS000014325
0.13355844 Roma:Balkans:GS000014352

[Gaditanian]

la música gitana de otros países es átona y arrítmica a diferencia del flamenco que tiene tono y ritmo por lo que podría servir para vislumbrar antiguos cánticos íberos

Esto también recuerdo haberlo leído.

En mi opinión los gitanos andaluces son descendientes de moriscos que a su vez eran descendientes poblaciones hispano romanas y anteriormente íberas.

No existe nada parecido al flamenco en el mundo árabe ni lo que cantan los gitanos de otros países europeos me parece flamenco.

¿Si es una invención musulmana o árabe como es que no existe en el resto del mundo árabe?, es que ni siquiera entre las poblaciones más cercanas como Marruecos. Así pues es algo que nació en Iberia y dudo que fuera en los siglos XVIII-XIX como dicen los expertos en estudios flamenco.

Algo así, no nace de repente, sino que se va forjando a lo largo de muchos siglos. Otra cosa es que se le empezara a prestar atención en esos siglos, puede ser porque del flamenco que se practicaba en Al-Andalus no se tenía constancia en los Reinos Cristianos, y la memoria histórica que al final quedó en la Península Ibérica fue la de los Conquistadores Reinos del Norte.

[Abdelnour]

100% Jewish.

Target: Scaled
Distance: 2.0024% / 0.02002417
100.0 Jewish

Target: Scaled
Distance: 2.0390% / 0.02038954 | ADC: 0.25x
100.0 Jewish

Distance to: Scaled
0.03007431 Jewish:Syrian_Jew
0.03895729 Jewish:Iraqi_Jew
0.04182166 Jewish:Romaniote_Jew
0.04465083 Jewish:Iranian_Jew
0.04492217 Jewish:Georgian_Jew
0.04719473 Jewish:Libyan_Jew
0.04877412 Jewish:Tunisian_Jew
0.05043074 Jewish:Sephardic_Jew
0.05144265 Jewish:Mountain_Jew_Chechnya
0.05258960 Jewish:Italian_Jew
0.05495102 Jewish:Ashkenazi_Germany
0.05513813 Jewish:Moroccan_Jew
0.06305497 Jewish:Ashkenazi_Lithuania
0.06483100 Jewish:Ashkenazi_Poland
0.06517655 Jewish:Ashkenazi_Belarussia
0.06851128 Jewish:Ashkenazi_Ukraine
0.06861384 Jewish:Ashkenazi_Russia
0.10356519 Jewish:Yemenite_Jew
0.11796835 Roma:Madrid
0.12693071 Roma:Granada
0.13012303 Roma:Bilbao
0.13096898 Roma:Porto
0.13118564 Roma:Balkans:GS000015870
0.13761692 Roma:Balkans
0.14232625 Roma:Balkans:GS000014325

[Gallop]

Esto también recuerdo haberlo leído.

En mi opinión los gitanos andaluces son descendientes de moriscos que a su vez eran descendientes poblaciones hispano romanas y anteriormente íberas.

No existe nada parecido al flamenco en el mundo árabe ni lo que cantan los gitanos de otros países europeos me parece flamenco.

¿Si es una invención musulmana o árabe como es que no existe en el resto del mundo árabe?, es que ni siquiera entre las poblaciones más cercanas como Marruecos. Así pues es algo que nació en Iberia y dudo que fuera en los siglos XVIII-XIX como dicen los expertos en estudios flamenco.

Algo así, no nace de repente, sino que se va forjando a lo largo de muchos siglos. Otra cosa es que se le empezara a prestar atención en esos siglos, puede ser porque del flamenco que se practicaba en Al-Andalus no se tenía constancia en los Reinos Cristianos, y la memoria histórica que al final quedó en la Península Ibérica fue la de los Conquistadores Reinos del Norte.

No es que los gitanos andaluces en general desciendan de los moriscos o estos se hiciesen pasar por gitanos, creo más bien que se darían casos, el número se desconoce y puede tratarse de una leyenda al fin y mientras no se demuestre de otra forma como con la genética por ejemplo.

Puede ser una percepción mía pero cuando escucho cantar flamenco o alguno de sus palos por artistas castellanos que no tienen quizá el oído tan influenciado por las formas o giros gitanos o más andaluces influenciados también; aunque también lo hacen diferente a los gitanos, es cuando más puedo ver que se trata de cantos realmente nuestros y antiguos.

Como por ejemplo en este tema donde quizá por su origen no está influenciada por las formas de cantar más de Andalucía a su vez influenciada por las voces gitanas y la pincelada morisca de la que nadie habla sino a la que se le llama flamenco y punto pelota y sin embargo ella alcanza un nivel que por mucha técnica que se tenga no se podría alcanzar por lo que es algo que se lleva dentro para hacerlo como ella lo hace sin ser andaluza, lo que me lleva a pensar que la base son cánticos nuestros antiguos.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AzsmDzZj7Xw

[Chris596]

Closer to Jews obviously, although my Ashkenazi ancestry is pretty old and I have no South Asian admixture.

Distance to: ChrisFather
0.08221912 Jewish:Ashkenazi_Belarussia
0.08269491 Jewish:Ashkenazi_Russia
0.08412066 Jewish:Ashkenazi_Lithuania
0.08450027 Jewish:Ashkenazi_Ukraine
0.08706997 Jewish:Ashkenazi_Poland
0.09582205 Jewish:Ashkenazi_Germany
0.09877049 Roma:Madrid
0.10451010 Roma:Balkans:GS000015870
0.10617405 Jewish:Italian_Jew
0.10961882 Jewish:Sephardic_Jew
0.11297801 Jewish:Romaniote_Jew
0.11399247 Roma:Bilbao
0.11674860 Jewish:Moroccan_Jew
0.11683752 Roma:Porto
0.12047030 Roma:Granada
0.12286297 Jewish:Syrian_Jew
0.13027548 Jewish:Libyan_Jew
0.13278740 Jewish:Tunisian_Jew
0.13308921 Roma:Balkans
0.13500975 Jewish:Georgian_Jew
0.14285666 Jewish:Mountain_Jew_Chechnya
0.14609005 Jewish:Iranian_Jew
0.14643537 Roma:Balkans:GS000014325
0.15044116 Jewish:Iraqi_Jew
0.15140697 Roma:Balkans:GS000014352

Distance to: Chris_scaled
0.09067877 Jewish:Ashkenazi_Russia
0.09121320 Jewish:Ashkenazi_Belarussia
0.09191595 Jewish:Ashkenazi_Ukraine
0.09322491 Jewish:Ashkenazi_Lithuania
0.09545678 Jewish:Ashkenazi_Poland
0.10163532 Roma:Madrid
0.10584805 Roma:Balkans:GS000015870
0.10635451 Jewish:Ashkenazi_Germany
0.11674368 Jewish:Italian_Jew
0.11705905 Roma:Bilbao
0.12052451 Jewish:Sephardic_Jew
0.12057646 Roma:Porto
0.12467540 Roma:Granada
0.12596214 Jewish:Romaniote_Jew
0.12727527 Jewish:Moroccan_Jew
0.13573989 Jewish:Syrian_Jew
0.13769373 Roma:Balkans
0.14184810 Jewish:Libyan_Jew
0.14456447 Jewish:Tunisian_Jew
0.14949247 Jewish:Georgian_Jew
0.15313595 Roma:Balkans:GS000014325
0.15517265 Jewish:Mountain_Jew_Chechnya
0.15612752 Roma:Balkans:GS000014352
0.15926081 Jewish:Iranian_Jew
0.16493740 Jewish:Iraqi_Jew

[Kamal900]

Jews obviously..esp with Syrian and Iraqi Jews.

Distance to: Moody_scaled
0.03356278 Jewish:Syrian_Jew
0.04162767 Jewish:Iraqi_Jew
0.04203222 Jewish:Libyan_Jew
0.04511612 Jewish:Tunisian_Jew
0.04626932 Jewish:Iranian_Jew
0.04912160 Jewish:Romaniote_Jew
0.04997546 Jewish:Georgian_Jew
0.05169465 Jewish:Mountain_Jew_Chechnya
0.05334166 Jewish:Sephardic_Jew
0.05548952 Jewish:Moroccan_Jew
0.05912918 Jewish:Italian_Jew
0.06276252 Jewish:Ashkenazi_Germany
0.06857335 Jewish:Ashkenazi_Lithuania
0.06912790 Jewish:Ashkenazi_Poland
0.07161638 Jewish:Ashkenazi_Belarussia
0.07207096 Jewish:Ashkenazi_Ukraine
0.07250349 Jewish:Ashkenazi_Russia
0.09914068 Jewish:Yemenite_Jew
0.11208690 Roma:Madrid
0.11694751 Roma:Granada
0.12089475 Roma:Bilbao
0.12139184 Roma:Porto
0.12578539 Roma:Balkans:GS000015870
0.12867512 Roma:Balkans
0.13238090 Roma:Balkans:GS00001432

Target: Moody_scaled
Distance: 1.4044% / 0.01404440 | ADC: 0.25x
98.0 Jewish
2.0 Roma

[Videx]

What a thread xD

Distance to: Videx_scaled
0.11647126 Jewish:Ashkenazi_Russia
0.11696559 Jewish:Ashkenazi_Belarussia
0.11745711 Jewish:Ashkenazi_Ukraine
0.11900954 Jewish:Ashkenazi_Lithuania
0.12056016 Roma:Madrid
0.12131898 Jewish:Ashkenazi_Poland
0.12153754 Roma:Balkans:GS000015870
0.13270987 Jewish:Ashkenazi_Germany
0.13501479 Roma:Bilbao
0.13820599 Roma:Porto
0.14296419 Roma:Granada
0.14313902 Jewish:Italian_Jew
0.14683952 Jewish:Sephardic_Jew
0.15303254 Jewish:Romaniote_Jew
0.15366542 Roma:Balkans
0.15428108 Jewish:Moroccan_Jew
0.16160652 Jewish:Syrian_Jew
0.16898045 Jewish:Libyan_Jew
0.17029634 Roma:Balkans:GS000014325
0.17093424 Roma:Balkans:GS000014352
0.17155472 Jewish:Tunisian_Jew
0.17182108 Jewish:Georgian_Jew
0.17557426 Jewish:Mountain_Jew_Chechnya
0.18097892 Jewish:Iranian_Jew
0.18878482 Jewish:Iraqi_Jew

Target: Videx_scaled
Distance: 10.8101% / 0.10810094
54.8 Jewish
45.2 Roma

[Dunai]

Slightly closer to Roma.

Target: Grace_scaled
Distance: 13.0567% / 0.13056731
51.2 Roma
48.8 Jewish

Distance to: Grace_scaled
0.13689741 Roma:Madrid
0.13710566 Jewish:Ashkenazi_Russia
0.13747224 Jewish:Ashkenazi_Ukraine
0.13779666 Jewish:Ashkenazi_Belarussia
0.14067591 Jewish:Ashkenazi_Lithuania
0.14136716 Jewish:Ashkenazi_Poland
0.14509953 Roma:Balkans:GS000015870
0.15204290 Jewish:Ashkenazi_Germany
0.15289178 Roma:Bilbao
0.15543563 Roma:Porto
0.16011121 Roma:Granada
0.16148829 Jewish:Italian_Jew
0.16523598 Jewish:Sephardic_Jew
0.16965949 Jewish:Moroccan_Jew
0.17191383 Jewish:Romaniote_Jew
0.17355052 Roma:Balkans
0.18049003 Jewish:Syrian_Jew
0.18581307 Jewish:Libyan_Jew
0.18854351 Jewish:Tunisian_Jew
0.18875600 Roma:Balkans:GS000014325
0.18928335 Roma:Balkans:GS000014352
0.19372584 Jewish:Georgian_Jew
0.19695063 Jewish:Mountain_Jew_Chechnya
0.20257823 Jewish:Iranian_Jew
0.21130871 Jewish:Iraqi_Jew

It seems that the more Nordic you are the more Gypsy you tend to be. Hence Romas are true Nordics :thumb001:

Target: Dunai
Distance: 9.9285% / 0.09928481
51.8 Jewish
48.2 Roma

Unfortunately I slightly fail the Nordic test, since I'm not Roma enough.

[calxpal]

Distance to: cpalscaled
0.11218254 Jewish:Ashkenazi_Russia
0.11234200 Jewish:Ashkenazi_Belarussia
0.11383166 Jewish:Ashkenazi_Ukraine
0.11483863 Jewish:Ashkenazi_Lithuania
0.11734645 Jewish:Ashkenazi_Poland
0.11740941 Roma:Madrid
0.12447656 Roma:Balkans:GS000015870
0.12672417 Jewish:Ashkenazi_Germany
0.13496088 Roma:Bilbao
0.13731373 Roma:Porto
0.13735563 Jewish:Italian_Jew
0.14164439 Roma:Granada
0.14192128 Jewish:Sephardic_Jew
0.14582012 Jewish:Moroccan_Jew
0.14761930 Jewish:Romaniote_Jew
0.15512801 Roma:Balkans
0.15771152 Jewish:Syrian_Jew
0.16199667 Jewish:Libyan_Jew
0.16491204 Jewish:Tunisian_Jew
0.17057582 Roma:Balkans:GS000014325
0.17190437 Jewish:Georgian_Jew
0.17249674 Roma:Balkans:GS000014352
0.17508828 Jewish:Mountain_Jew_Chechnya
0.18103344 Jewish:Iranian_Jew
0.18875939 Jewish:Iraqi_Jew

Target: cpalscaled
Distance: 10.6579% / 0.10657887
62.4 Jewish
37.6 Roma

Hehe ;)

[someonenotyou]

Distance to: cpalscaled
0.11218254 Jewish:Ashkenazi_Russia
0.11234200 Jewish:Ashkenazi_Belarussia
0.11383166 Jewish:Ashkenazi_Ukraine
0.11483863 Jewish:Ashkenazi_Lithuania
0.11734645 Jewish:Ashkenazi_Poland
0.11740941 Roma:Madrid
0.12447656 Roma:Balkans:GS000015870
0.12672417 Jewish:Ashkenazi_Germany
0.13496088 Roma:Bilbao
0.13731373 Roma:Porto
0.13735563 Jewish:Italian_Jew
0.14164439 Roma:Granada
0.14192128 Jewish:Sephardic_Jew
0.14582012 Jewish:Moroccan_Jew
0.14761930 Jewish:Romaniote_Jew
0.15512801 Roma:Balkans
0.15771152 Jewish:Syrian_Jew
0.16199667 Jewish:Libyan_Jew
0.16491204 Jewish:Tunisian_Jew
0.17057582 Roma:Balkans:GS000014325
0.17190437 Jewish:Georgian_Jew
0.17249674 Roma:Balkans:GS000014352
0.17508828 Jewish:Mountain_Jew_Chechnya
0.18103344 Jewish:Iranian_Jew
0.18875939 Jewish:Iraqi_Jew

Target: cpalscaled
Distance: 10.6579% / 0.10657887
62.4 Jewish
37.6 Roma

Hehe ;)

Target:
Distance: 9.2071% / 0.09207070
62.6 Jewish
37.4 Roma
We are close.



Distance to:
0.09906111 Jewish:Ashkenazi_Russia
0.09957475 Jewish:Ashkenazi_Ukraine
0.10016669 Jewish:Ashkenazi_Belarussia
0.10221668 Jewish:Ashkenazi_Lithuania
0.10347158 Jewish:Ashkenazi_Poland
0.10620361 Roma:Madrid
0.11187910 Roma:Balkans:GS000015870
0.11512895 Jewish:Ashkenazi_Germany
0.12232384 Roma:Bilbao
0.12491476 Roma:Porto
0.12522524 Jewish:Italian_Jew
0.12811309 Jewish:Sephardic_Jew
0.12954450 Roma:Granada
0.13509701 Jewish:Moroccan_Jew
0.13548667 Jewish:Romaniote_Jew
0.14338819 Roma:Balkans
0.14403059 Jewish:Syrian_Jew
0.14993766 Jewish:Libyan_Jew
0.15250041 Jewish:Tunisian_Jew
0.15818111 Jewish:Georgian_Jew
0.15978745 Roma:Balkans:GS000014325
0.16057118 Roma:Balkans:GS000014352
0.16186629 Jewish:Mountain_Jew_Chechnya
0.16622430 Jewish:Iranian_Jew
0.17384079 Jewish:Iraqi_Jew

[happycow]

0.04307286 Jewish:Libyan_Jew
0.04510842 Jewish:Tunisian_Jew
0.04596528 Jewish:Syrian_Jew
0.05499765 Jewish:Iraqi_Jew
0.05673854 Jewish:Romaniote_Jew
0.06060019 Jewish:Moroccan_Jew
0.06179480 Jewish:Sephardic_Jew
0.06179549 Jewish:Iranian_Jew
0.06528524 Jewish:Mountain_Jew_Chechnya
0.06659964 Jewish:Italian_Jew
0.06676463 Jewish:Georgian_Jew
0.07104186 Jewish:Ashkenazi_Germany
0.07851959 Jewish:Ashkenazi_Lithuania
0.07884477 Jewish:Ashkenazi_Poland
0.08126880 Jewish:Ashkenazi_Belarussia
0.08141910 Jewish:Ashkenazi_Ukraine
0.08235681 Jewish:Ashkenazi_Russia
0.08672340 Jewish:Yemenite_Jew
0.12350503 Roma:Madrid
0.12704303 Roma:Granada
0.13153833 Roma:Bilbao
0.13189594 Roma:Porto
0.13602893 Roma:Balkans:GS000015870
0.13924602 Roma:Balkans
0.14247343 Roma:Balkans:GS000014325

Distance: 1.6353% / 0.01635311
99.0 Jewish
1.0 Roma

[Chaos One]

Do't have coords but probably would be closer to Moroccan Jew (and other Maghrebi Jews) 1st, Italian Jew than Iranian Jew after, as I saw in some runs with other calculators.

[celticdragongod]

Distance to: CDG_scaled
0.13175732 Roma:Madrid
0.13184922 Jewish:Ashkenazi_Russia
0.13199774 Jewish:Ashkenazi_Ukraine
0.13280157 Jewish:Ashkenazi_Belarussia
0.13553327 Jewish:Ashkenazi_Lithuania
0.13602412 Jewish:Ashkenazi_Poland
0.14074570 Roma:Balkans:GS000015870
0.14720514 Jewish:Ashkenazi_Germany
0.14763481 Roma:Bilbao
0.14954248 Roma:Porto
0.15521367 Roma:Granada
0.15641204 Jewish:Italian_Jew
0.15950751 Jewish:Sephardic_Jew
0.16465497 Jewish:Moroccan_Jew
0.16725543 Jewish:Romaniote_Jew
0.16955558 Roma:Balkans
0.17642187 Jewish:Syrian_Jew
0.18045437 Jewish:Libyan_Jew
0.18313528 Jewish:Tunisian_Jew
0.18505446 Roma:Balkans:GS000014325
0.18532219 Roma:Balkans:GS000014352
0.19151162 Jewish:Georgian_Jew
0.19442997 Jewish:Mountain_Jew_Chechnya
0.19952341 Jewish:Iranian_Jew
0.20815365 Jewish:Iraqi_Jew

Target: CDG_scaled
Distance: 12.4991% / 0.12499066 | ADC: 2x
52.2 Roma:Madrid
47.8 Jewish:Ashkenazi_Ukraine

Target: CDG_scaled
Distance: 12.4982% / 0.12498231 | ADC: 1x
50.8 Roma:Madrid
49.2 Jewish:Ashkenazi_Ukraine

Target: CDG_scaled
Distance: 12.4982% / 0.12498203 | ADC: 0.5x
50.6 Roma:Madrid
49.4 Jewish:Ashkenazi_Ukraine

Target: CDG_scaled
Distance: 12.4982% / 0.12498197 | ADC: 0.25x
50.4 Roma:Madrid
49.6 Jewish:Ashkenazi_Ukraine

Target: CDG_scaled
Distance: 12.4982% / 0.12498197
50.4 Roma:Madrid
49.6 Jewish:Ashkenazi_Ukraine

[celticdragongod]

It seems that the more Nordic you are the more Gypsy you tend to be. Hence Romas are true Nordics :thumb001:

Target: Dunai
Distance: 9.9285% / 0.09928481
51.8 Jewish
48.2 Roma

Unfortunately I slightly fail the Nordic test, since I'm not Roma enough.

It seems that the Roma of Madrid are the most "Nordic". Other Roma seem to be less "Nordic" than the Ashkenazi of Eastern Europe.

[Mortimer]

Distance to: Svetozar_scaled
0.03808758 Roma:Balkans:GS000015870
0.03905867 Roma:Madrid
0.04975848 Roma:Bilbao
0.05259094 Roma:Porto
0.05527211 Roma:Granada
0.06432377 Roma:Balkans
0.07989080 Jewish:Ashkenazi_Russia
0.08020253 Roma:Balkans:GS000014325
0.08049705 Jewish:Ashkenazi_Lithuania
0.08118245 Jewish:Ashkenazi_Belarussia
0.08173783 Roma:Balkans:GS000014352
0.08426294 Jewish:Ashkenazi_Ukraine
0.08718046 Jewish:Ashkenazi_Poland
0.09504844 Jewish:Ashkenazi_Germany
0.10491299 Jewish:Italian_Jew
0.10507839 Jewish:Sephardic_Jew
0.10942300 Jewish:Romaniote_Jew
0.11259917 Jewish:Moroccan_Jew
0.11388607 Jewish:Syrian_Jew
0.11525189 Jewish:Georgian_Jew
0.11728175 Jewish:Mountain_Jew_Chechnya
0.12147300 Jewish:Libyan_Jew
0.12255041 Jewish:Iranian_Jew
0.12567082 Jewish:Tunisian_Jew
0.13286616 Jewish:Iraqi_Jew

Target: Svetozar_scaled
Distance: 2.9317% / 0.02931673
78.6 Roma
21.4 Jewish

[rothaer]

Target: rothaer_scaled
Distance: 12.6225% / 0.12622483
54.2 Jewish
45.8 Roma

What distance has to be surpassed to be safe for deportation (80 years ago)? 5.0%?

Distance to: rothaer_scaled
0.13418536 Jewish:Ashkenazi_Russia
0.13452052 Jewish:Ashkenazi_Ukraine
0.13462598 Roma:Madrid
0.13498904 Jewish:Ashkenazi_Belarussia
0.13723258 Jewish:Ashkenazi_Lithuania
0.13767666 Roma:Balkans:GS000015870
0.13849290 Jewish:Ashkenazi_Poland
0.14917523 Roma:Bilbao
0.14956673 Jewish:Ashkenazi_Germany
0.15251013 Roma:Porto
0.15676974 Roma:Granada
0.15951727 Jewish:Italian_Jew
0.16338875 Jewish:Sephardic_Jew
0.16776017 Jewish:Moroccan_Jew
0.16938731 Roma:Balkans
0.17015751 Jewish:Romaniote_Jew
0.17891711 Jewish:Syrian_Jew
0.18316350 Jewish:Libyan_Jew
0.18588920 Roma:Balkans:GS000014325
0.18610625 Jewish:Tunisian_Jew
0.18632787 Roma:Balkans:GS000014352
0.19286902 Jewish:Georgian_Jew
0.19671290 Jewish:Mountain_Jew_Chechnya
0.20127837 Jewish:Iranian_Jew
0.20900618 Jewish:Iraqi_Jew

[Vishap]

Distance to: Vishap_scaled
0.03849724 Jewish:Georgian_Jew
0.04018884 Jewish:Mountain_Jew_Chechnya
0.04744288 Jewish:Iranian_Jew
0.06261788 Jewish:Iraqi_Jew
0.07255276 Jewish:Syrian_Jew
0.08270643 Jewish:Ashkenazi_Lithuania
0.08496710 Jewish:Ashkenazi_Belarussia
0.08563229 Jewish:Ashkenazi_Russia
0.08637412 Jewish:Romaniote_Jew
0.08726130 Jewish:Sephardic_Jew
0.08731447 Jewish:Ashkenazi_Poland
0.08822381 Jewish:Ashkenazi_Ukraine
0.08864784 Jewish:Ashkenazi_Germany
0.09239967 Jewish:Italian_Jew
0.09797599 Jewish:Libyan_Jew
0.09857945 Roma:Madrid
0.09964834 Jewish:Moroccan_Jew
0.10005330 Roma:Balkans:GS000015870
0.10023064 Jewish:Tunisian_Jew
0.10033306 Roma:Granada
0.10168675 Roma:Balkans
0.10243497 Roma:Porto
0.10405053 Roma:Bilbao
0.10732750 Roma:Balkans:GS000014325
0.10789928 Roma:Balkans:GS000014352

Target: Vishap_scaled
Distance: 2.7886% / 0.02788635
80.6 Jewish
19.4 Roma

[rothaer]

Slightly closer to Roma.

Target: Grace_scaled
Distance: 13.0567% / 0.13056731
51.2 Roma
48.8 Jewish

Distance most safe for deportation in this thread! ;-)

[JamesBond007]

Target: Kevin_scaled
Distance: 12.2977% / 0.12297671
55.8 Roma
44.2 Jewish

Distance to: Kevin_scaled
0.12824102 Roma:Madrid
0.13124985 Jewish:Ashkenazi_Russia
0.13126579 Jewish:Ashkenazi_Belarussia
0.13212359 Jewish:Ashkenazi_Ukraine
0.13387286 Jewish:Ashkenazi_Lithuania
0.13612032 Jewish:Ashkenazi_Poland
0.13683813 Roma:Balkans:GS000015870
0.14561550 Roma:Bilbao
0.14564103 Jewish:Ashkenazi_Germany
0.14770405 Roma:Porto
0.15188584 Roma:Granada
0.15576396 Jewish:Italian_Jew
0.15981911 Jewish:Sephardic_Jew
0.16372932 Jewish:Moroccan_Jew
0.16584629 Roma:Balkans
0.16624469 Jewish:Romaniote_Jew
0.17553026 Jewish:Syrian_Jew
0.17915871 Jewish:Libyan_Jew
0.18152861 Roma:Balkans:GS000014325
0.18162929 Roma:Balkans:GS000014352
0.18278563 Jewish:Tunisian_Jew
0.18853356 Jewish:Georgian_Jew
0.18993689 Jewish:Mountain_Jew_Chechnya
0.19701846 Jewish:Iranian_Jew
0.20599227 Jewish:Iraqi_Jew

[Damião de Góis]

Target: Gil_Vicente
Distance: 7.5123% / 0.07512345
80.8 Jewish
19.2 Roma

Distance to: Gil_Vicente
0.07685171 Jewish:Ashkenazi_Ukraine
0.07878975 Jewish:Ashkenazi_Russia
0.07979138 Jewish:Ashkenazi_Belarussia
0.08049252 Jewish:Ashkenazi_Poland
0.08255558 Jewish:Ashkenazi_Lithuania
0.08871860 Jewish:Ashkenazi_Germany
0.09517479 Jewish:Italian_Jew
0.09893512 Jewish:Sephardic_Jew
0.10053931 Jewish:Moroccan_Jew
0.10130295 Roma:Madrid
0.10748039 Jewish:Romaniote_Jew
0.11610688 Jewish:Libyan_Jew
0.11887782 Jewish:Tunisian_Jew
0.11971698 Jewish:Syrian_Jew
0.12096956 Roma:Bilbao
0.12198376 Roma:Balkans:GS000015870
0.12449517 Roma:Porto
0.12589937 Roma:Granada
0.14738340 Roma:Balkans
0.14798858 Jewish:Georgian_Jew
0.14963604 Jewish:Mountain_Jew_Chechnya
0.15319772 Jewish:Iranian_Jew
0.15691248 Jewish:Iraqi_Jew
0.16068050 Roma:Balkans:GS000014325
0.16315287 Roma:Balkans:GS000014352

[RyoHazuki]

Target: Ryo_scaled(English+French)
Distance: 11.7120% / 0.11711964
60.2 Jewish:Ashkenazi_Ukraine
39.8 Roma:Madrid


Distance to: Ryo_scaled(English+French)
0.12183095 Jewish:Ashkenazi_Ukraine
0.12261342 Jewish:Ashkenazi_Russia
0.12458828 Jewish:Ashkenazi_Belarussia
0.12605360 Jewish:Ashkenazi_Poland
0.12696193 Jewish:Ashkenazi_Lithuania
0.12758893 Roma:Madrid
0.13794674 Jewish:Ashkenazi_Germany
0.13833529 Roma:Balkans:GS000015870
0.14257378 Roma:Bilbao
0.14518036 Roma:Porto
0.14584761 Jewish:Italian_Jew
0.14819537 Jewish:Sephardic_Jew
0.15036354 Roma:Granada
0.15422677 Jewish:Moroccan_Jew
0.15690988 Jewish:Romaniote_Jew
0.16598794 Jewish:Syrian_Jew
0.16616326 Roma:Balkans
0.16868092 Jewish:Libyan_Jew
0.17098871 Jewish:Tunisian_Jew
0.18114987 Roma:Balkans:GS000014352
0.18174236 Roma:Balkans:GS000014325
0.18432715 Jewish:Georgian_Jew
0.18613275 Jewish:Mountain_Jew_Chechnya
0.19015909 Jewish:Iranian_Jew
0.19805756 Jewish:Iraqi_Jew


Are Balkan/Hungarian gypsies more South Asian?

[Erronkari]

Target: Fran_scaled
Distance: 9.2734% / 0.09273448
67.6 Jewish
32.4 Roma

-------------------------

Distance to: Fran_scaled
0.09650835 Jewish:Ashkenazi_Belarussia
0.09697041 Jewish:Ashkenazi_Russia
0.09822140 Jewish:Ashkenazi_Ukraine
0.09973202 Jewish:Ashkenazi_Lithuania
0.10088067 Jewish:Ashkenazi_Poland
0.10617610 Jewish:Ashkenazi_Germany
0.10809870 Roma:Madrid
0.11448923 Jewish:Italian_Jew
0.11964406 Jewish:Moroccan_Jew
0.11984184 Jewish:Sephardic_Jew
0.12455735 Jewish:Romaniote_Jew
0.12769368 Roma:Bilbao
0.12781307 Roma:Balkans:GS000015870
0.13156190 Roma:Porto
0.13294647 Roma:Granada
0.13698201 Jewish:Libyan_Jew
0.13897696 Jewish:Syrian_Jew
0.14020398 Jewish:Tunisian_Jew
0.15154926 Roma:Balkans
0.16142081 Jewish:Georgian_Jew
0.16304379 Jewish:Mountain_Jew_Chechnya
0.16337024 Roma:Balkans:GS000014325
0.16741278 Roma:Balkans:GS000014352
0.16920841 Jewish:Iranian_Jew
0.17425934 Jewish:Iraqi_Jew

So....


https://youtu.be/uSTOcyevIOE :D

[Luso]

Target: Luso_scaled
Distance: 7.7225% / 0.07722481
84.6 Jewish
15.4 Roma

Distance to: Luso_scaled
0.07829154 Jewish:Ashkenazi_Ukraine
0.08012920 Jewish:Ashkenazi_Russia
0.08143554 Jewish:Ashkenazi_Poland
0.08209564 Jewish:Ashkenazi_Belarussia
0.08433937 Jewish:Ashkenazi_Lithuania
0.08966609 Jewish:Ashkenazi_Germany
0.09518024 Jewish:Italian_Jew
0.09847725 Jewish:Sephardic_Jew
0.09898078 Jewish:Moroccan_Jew
0.10509812 Roma:Madrid
0.10705757 Jewish:Romaniote_Jew
0.11416638 Jewish:Libyan_Jew
0.11591399 Jewish:Tunisian_Jew
0.12086854 Jewish:Syrian_Jew
0.12359839 Roma:Bilbao
0.12546009 Roma:Balkans:GS000015870
0.12684864 Roma:Porto
0.12822259 Roma:Granada
0.15037728 Roma:Balkans
0.15281745 Jewish:Georgian_Jew
0.15552794 Jewish:Mountain_Jew_Chechnya
0.15732118 Jewish:Iranian_Jew
0.16012597 Jewish:Iraqi_Jew
0.16309874 Roma:Balkans:GS000014325
0.16628310 Roma:Balkans:GS000014352

[InfamousAngel99]

Distance: 11.4076% / 0.11407646
55.4 Jewish
44.6 Roma

Very distant results, as expected. I kind of knew I would be closer to Jewish people based on my roots, but interesting nonetheless.