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chociprasa
06-11-2020, 11:46 PM
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/82/Dror_Feiler_2.jpg/1200px-Dror_Feiler_2.jpg
https://images.hdsydsvenskan.se/980x588/85tVVi_z4TdDVZUo-0SXPK5jz0Q.jpg
https://www.svenskmusik.org/images/jpg/dror.jpg
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/zYdb-nYM5-U/maxresdefault.jpg

His wife:
https://resources.mynewsdesk.com/image/upload/t_open_graph_image/hcm1h07zrvhehh9eous3.jpg
https://feministisktperspektiv.se/site_media/bilder/Feiler.jpg
https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-3Q05_qPA0AI/UWbQBgycReI/AAAAAAAAAwU/_-mGoBR-tZM/s1600/Tegen2_9_w.jpg
https://cdn-az.allevents.in/banners/a24ef0d862e1513276d3bba2c73277d2-rimg-w720-h479-gmir.jpg

Their son:
https://www.svtstatic.se/image/square/992/26208426/1585421181?quality=70&format=auto
https://www.dagensarena.se/files/2012/05/tigranfeiler_D.jpg
https://www.svtstatic.se/image/wide/480/6643774/1455991104?quality=70&format=auto
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/ZQPtREBUyTA/hqdefault.jpg
https://www.svtstatic.se/image/wide/992/24414829/1573423850?quality=70&format=auto
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ELAP5R1XkAA3H95.jpg

Tooting Carmen
06-11-2020, 11:56 PM
Faelids

Immanenz
06-11-2020, 11:58 PM
father Alpine-Dinaric+ Aurignacoid (might be Nordid or Atlantid) he is half Swedish, he looks like that he can pass in most Europe
mother Borreby/Baltid
son Alpine- Neo Danubian with Atlantid range

chociprasa
06-12-2020, 12:11 AM
father Alpine-Dinaric+ Aurignacoid (might be Nordid or Atlantid) he is half Swedish, he looks like that he can pass in most Europe
mother Borreby/Baltid
son Alpine- Neo Danubian with Atlantid range

The father is fully Israeli/Jewish as much as I can find. Where did you get the information that he's half-Swedish?
His mother:

Today, at the age of 80, Pnina Feiler is a very determined woman, full of energy and highly intelligent. She has a healthy sense of humor and a colorful style of speech. Between cigarettes, she spits saliva. She was born Pnina Neidorf in Poland in 1923 in Lodz.
I can't find any information on his father, but he might have been a Romanian Jew, after a quick search.

Immanenz
06-12-2020, 12:20 AM
The father is fully Israeli/Jewish as much as I can find. Where did you get the information that he's half-Swedish?
His mother:

I can't find any information on his father, but he might have been a Romanian Jew, after a quick search.

Feiler is a German/Austrian (common here) name,the way he looks he prop. has European admix since he would pass in Centraleuro easily. I read on wiki swedish-israeli and therefor assumed it, but it seems rather his family has German Jewish background.
https://www.geni.com/people/Elieser-Feiler/6000000008389677308
https://www.geni.com/people/Pnina-Feiler/3855132

chociprasa
06-12-2020, 12:23 AM
Feiler is a German/Austrian (common here) name,the way he looks he prop. has European admix since he would pass in Centraleuro easily. I read on wiki swedish-israeli and therefor assumed it, but it seems rather his family has German Jewish background.
https://www.geni.com/people/Elieser-Feiler/6000000008389677308
https://www.geni.com/people/Pnina-Feiler/3855132

Feiler is more likely a Yiddish name, even if it may sound German. Many Eastern European Jews have names in Yiddish, including this guy (I think).

Immanenz
06-12-2020, 12:25 AM
Feiler is more likely a Yiddish name, even if it may sound German. Many Eastern European Jews have names in Yiddish, including this guy (I think).

so all Austrians who have the name Feiler also have a Yiddish name? I told you Feiler is a common name here. I propably know better about that. A Yiddish name would be Zipkiyah or Najdorf (the name of her mother), they are not Austrian/Germna names.

chociprasa
06-12-2020, 12:32 AM
so all Austrians who have the name Feiler also have a Yiddish name? I told you Feiler is a common name here. I propably know better about that. A Yiddish name would be Zipkiyah or Najdorf (the name of her mother), they are not Austrian/Germna names.

No, but Feiler is a Yiddish surname too (even if it's not too common). Just like there are other German surnames that are common Yiddish surnames too. He doesn't have to be of Austrian/German descent to have that as his surname. Take a look at this Wikipedia category:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Yiddish-language_surnames
And you'll notice that many German language surnames and Yiddish language surnames overlap. This is probably the case for him too, especially since he doesn't really strike me as looking Austrian/German.

Immanenz
06-12-2020, 12:40 AM
No, but Feiler is a Yiddish surname too (even if it's not too common). Just like there are other German surnames that are common Yiddish surnames too. He doesn't have to be of Austrian/German descent to have that as his surname. Take a look at this Wikipedia category:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Yiddish-language_surnames
And you'll notice that many German language surnames and Yiddish language surnames overlap. This is probably the case for him too, especially since he doesn't really strike me as looking Austrian/German.

Man, i can seperate a German name from a Yiddish name, alright? Stein, Berman, Goldschmidt are jewish names. One of his ancestors may chose it on puropose who knows? It would be nice to know his genetic background of course. He does not look extremly typical- but can pass in Centraleuro, yes.

he is Assyroid/Armenoid because you classify by ancestry. His son maybe Armenoid it too ? I told you arleady you are a biased classifier.

chociprasa
06-12-2020, 12:57 AM
Man, i can seperate an German name from a Yiddish name, alright? Stein, Berman, Goldschmidt are jewish names. One of his ancestors may chose it on puropose who knows? It would be nice to know his genetic background of course. He does not look extremly typical- but can pass in Centraleuro, yes.

he is Assyroid/Armenoid because you classify by ancestry. His son maybe Armenoid it too ? I told you arleady you are a biased classifier.

How am I being biased, exactly? You claimed that he was Aurignacoid (he has literally zero Aurignacoid traits, I'm not sure where you see them), and I would've still classify him as a (nearly) typical Armenoid, even if he wasn't Jewish or Israeli, and I would've classified him as Armenoid even if he was from a region where you'd confuse his phenotype for a similar one (the Balkans), because of his facial features. I made this thread because I thought that his son looked a bit different from him and his wife.

And as I said, German language and Yiddish language names can overlap. A Jew can have a name that is more common among Germans than it is among Yiddish-speaking Jews, or Jews descended from Yiddish-speaking people, but that doesn't leave out the (likely) possibility that it is a name that have been used by Yiddish-speaking people in the past, especially if we know that he's an Ashkenazi Jew from Israel. But if his surname is of German/Austrian origin, then fine, I'll shut up about it, but I'm just presenting the likely origin of his surname, if we know about his ancestry.

Immanenz
06-12-2020, 01:13 AM
How am I being biased, exactly? You claimed that he was Aurignacoid (he has literally zero Aurignacoid traits, I'm not sure where you see them), and I would've still classify him as a (nearly) typical Armenoid, even if he wasn't Jewish or Israeli, and I would've classified him as Armenoid even if he was from a region where you'd confuse his phenotype for a similar one (the Balkans), because of his facial features. I made this thread because I thought that his son looked a bit different from him and his wife.


i said Aurignacoid judged by the lenght of the face/head compared to Alpine /Dinarics, he is slightly high headed- this is obv. the sign for Dinaric/Alpine. Aurigncoid would be also a Cappadocian Med or East Med type which is also typical for people in the Levant btw so not everybody from this region is Armenoid per se. True Armenoids dont have that kind of straight noses like this, this is typical for Dinaric types. Armenoid noses are way more prominent

aherne
06-12-2020, 04:19 AM
Guy has Central European look (no Semitic influences visible). Woman is CM. Child is subnordid...

Bmack
11-20-2020, 09:59 PM
tigran looks like danny mcbride, north atlantid alpine, father borreby dinaric, mother faelid.