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Hapanuwa
06-14-2020, 12:57 PM
So I purchased Global25 and he sent me the following model:

Target: Hapanuwa_scaled
Distance: 3.2934% / 0.03293367
38.8 Anatolia_Epipaleolithic
16.6 Caucasus_Mesolithic
16.4 Caspian_steppe_Eneolithic
10.0 IRN_Ganj_Dareh_N
10.0 Levant_Natufian
8.2 Devils_Gate_Cave

Could someone help me analyze this? Is this a normal/common result to my ethnic group?

Much appreciations
Kaspias
06-14-2020, 01:11 PM
So I purchased Global25 and he sent me the following model:

Target: Hapanuwa_scaled
Distance: 3.2934% / 0.03293367
38.8 Anatolia_Epipaleolithic
16.6 Caucasus_Mesolithic
16.4 Caspian_steppe_Eneolithic
10.0 IRN_Ganj_Dareh_N
10.0 Levant_Natufian
8.2 Devils_Gate_Cave

Could someone help me analyze this? Is this a normal/common result to my ethnic group?

Much appreciations

Target: Hapanuwa_scaled
Distance: 3.2934% / 0.03293367
38.8 Anatolia_Epipaleolithic = Native
16.6 Caucasus_Mesolithic = Partly Native, partly Turkic
16.4 Caspian_steppe_Eneolithic = Turkic
10.0 IRN_Ganj_Dareh_N = Iranic primarily, but comes from Turkic ancestor
10.0 Levant_Natufian = Native
8.2 Devils_Gate_Cave = Turkic

Conclusion: 55-60% Native, 40-45% Conqueror Turkic(+Iranic). = 55-60% Native, 10% Iranic, 30-35% Oghuz
Hapanuwa
06-14-2020, 01:23 PM
Target: Hapanuwa_scaled
Distance: 3.2934% / 0.03293367
38.8 Anatolia_Epipaleolithic = Native
16.6 Caucasus_Mesolithic = Partly Native, partly Turkic
16.4 Caspian_steppe_Eneolithic = Turkic
10.0 IRN_Ganj_Dareh_N = Iranic primarily, but comes from Turkic ancestor
10.0 Levant_Natufian = Native
8.2 Devils_Gate_Cave = Turkic

Conclusion: 55-60% Native, 40-45% Conqueror Turkic(+Iranic). = 55-60% Native, 10% Iranic, 30-35% Oghuz

Thank you kardeşim. Sensiz ne yapardık :D
Pretty decent Turkic conqueror percentage, almost half half
Kyp
06-14-2020, 01:25 PM
Nice results! Looks fairly normal I would imagine. Maybe a bit more Turkic than average.

Does anyone know what the Caspian_Steppe sample is like?
Chris596
06-14-2020, 01:30 PM
Nice results! I was thinking about getting a G25 model too. I also know this is not exactly the right thread for this, but can someone help me? (how can I do it?) A reputation comment or a PM would be much appreciated :)
Kaspias
06-14-2020, 01:44 PM
Thank you kardeşim. Sensiz ne yapardık :D
Pretty decent Turkic conqueror percentage, almost half half

You're welcome! This is mine on same model if you want to compare:

Target: Kaspias_scaled
Distance: 2.6608% / 0.02660776
36.4 Anatolia_Epipaleolithic
26.0 Pontic_steppe_Eneolithic
15.8 Caspian_steppe_Eneolithic
9.6 Ganj_Dareh_N
7.6 Devils_Gate_Cave
4.6 Levant_Natufian
0.0 Caucasus_Mesolithic

SS


Anatolia_Epipaleolithic,0.113823,0.166547,0.029793 ,-0.082688,0.070782,-0.04016,-0.005875,0.001846,0.04745,0.079637,0.006008,0.0091 42,-0.021407,-0.009358,-0.042073,-0.003713,0.0442,-0.002787,0.008045,-0.001251,-0.013851,0.003339,-0.003451,-0.009278,-0.005628
Caucasus_Mesolithic,0.091058,0.102568,-0.083344,-0.00323,-0.08617,0.020638,0.024911,-0.001846,-0.128236,-0.074717,-0.006333,0.023979,-0.054856,0.004404,0.026601,-0.03275,0.02386,-0.013429,-0.022249,0.034767,0.033815,-0.007048,0.006532,-0.025787,-0.002036
Caspian_steppe_Eneolithic,0.1143925,0.075657,0.016 2165,0.1157965,-0.0543175,0.0496425,0.000705,-0.0083075,-0.0735265,-0.083829,0.007145,0.0016485,-0.003568,-0.025047,0.0313515,0.0027185,-0.0123865,-0.0033575,-0.0021995,0.006753,-0.006613,0.0029675,0.009798,0.006145,-0.002874
Ganj_Dareh_N,0.0430252,0.0664158,-0.1550722,0.0047158,-0.122669,0.0235384,0.017109,-0.0011998,-0.082546,-0.0544158,-0.0028258,-0.0016186,0.0044896,-0.0062756,0.0316498,0.0561384,-0.0054242,0.0068664,0.0136508,-0.0334162,0.00856,-0.028836,-0.0110678,-0.039331,0.0222254
Devils_Gate_Cave,0.0162197,-0.4440402,0.0722185,-0.0511148,-0.0373912,-0.0395328,0.0034075,0.0084802,0.0064935,0.019408,-0.048595,-0.004833,-0.0030848,0.0086702,-0.0096025,-0.0133915,-0.0007825,0.0089,0.0174408,0.0100362,0.008828,-0.027729,-0.0174702,-0.00244,-0.0145795
Levant_Natufian,0.020488,0.1431895,-0.0377125,-0.1387295,0.030775,-0.079484,-0.025616,-0.0175375,0.114329,0.002005,0.0332085,-0.0222555,0.076486,0.002133,0.0153365,0.009016,-0.0154505,-0.001014,-0.02206,0.040832,0.001497,0.0001235,-0.003636,-0.0044585,0.006287
Pontic_steppe_Eneolithic,0.127482,0.11577,0.047894 ,0.070737,0.010771,0.026216,0.00376,0.008077,-0.017385,-0.030069,-0.008282,0.005845,0.005798,-0.029038,0.013436,0.005834,-0.005215,-0.003801,-0.006034,0.002126,-0.010981,0.004081,0.000616,0.017713,-0.003952
Kaspias
06-14-2020, 01:47 PM
Nice results! Looks fairly normal I would imagine. Maybe a bit more Turkic than average.

Does anyone know what the Caspian_Steppe sample is like?


Distance to: Caspian_steppe_Eneolithic
0.12238285 Tajik_Rushan
0.12575874 Darginian
0.12700644 Tajik_Shugnan
0.13130830 Kubachinian
0.13313810 Kaitag
0.13364788 Avar
0.13391764 Lak
0.13441802 Tajik_Yagnobi
0.13522174 Tajik_Ishkashim
0.14069208 Tabasaran
0.15198961 Kalash
0.15507255 Tajik
0.15567758 Komi
0.15707074 Jatt_Pathak
0.15811887 Ror
0.15920956 Chechen
0.15984526 Kho_Singanali
0.16016550 Mordovian
0.16207353 Besermyan
0.16247964 Tatar_Mishar
0.16355136 Russian_Kostroma
0.16468773 Tatar_Kazan
0.16566467 Uthmankhel
0.16614513 Karelian
0.16641110 Finnish_East



Nice results! I was thinking about getting a G25 model too. I also know this is not exactly the right thread for this, but can someone help me? (how can I do it?) A reputation comment or a PM would be much appreciated :)

You should wait until July 1, Davidski is not doing it currently because of corona outbreak. This is the store: http://eurogenes.blogspot.com/2017/10/genetic-ancestry-online-store-to-be.html
Kyp
06-14-2020, 01:55 PM
[QUOTE=Kaspias;6750731]
Distance to: Caspian_steppe_Eneolithic
0.12238285 Tajik_Rushan
0.12575874 Darginian
0.12700644 Tajik_Shugnan
0.13130830 Kubachinian
0.13313810 Kaitag
0.13364788 Avar
0.13391764 Lak
0.13441802 Tajik_Yagnobi
0.13522174 Tajik_Ishkashim
0.14069208 Tabasaran
0.15198961 Kalash
0.15507255 Tajik
0.15567758 Komi
0.15707074 Jatt_Pathak
0.15811887 Ror
0.15920956 Chechen
0.15984526 Kho_Singanali
0.16016550 Mordovian
0.16207353 Besermyan
0.16247964 Tatar_Mishar
0.16355136 Russian_Kostroma
0.16468773 Tatar_Kazan
0.16566467 Uthmankhel
0.16614513 Karelian
0.16641110 Finnish_East


Thanks!

Target: Kyp_scaled
Distance: 3.4623% / 0.03462311
55.6 GERMAN/AUSTRIAN
16.2 Ganj_Dareh_N
10.2 Anatolia_Epipaleolithic
8.6 Caucasus_Mesolithic
4.8 Levant_Natufian
4.6 Devils_Gate_Cave
Impaler
06-14-2020, 01:56 PM
You're welcome! This is mine on same model if you want to compare:

Target: Kaspias_scaled
Distance: 2.6608% / 0.02660776
36.4 Anatolia_Epipaleolithic
26.0 Pontic_steppe_Eneolithic
15.8 Caspian_steppe_Eneolithic
9.6 Ganj_Dareh_N
7.6 Devils_Gate_Cave
4.6 Levant_Natufian
0.0 Caucasus_Mesolithic



Target: Impaler_scaled
Distance: 2.9238% / 0.02923804
49.0 Pontic_steppe_Eneolithic
32.2 Anatolia_Epipaleolithic
14.0 Ganj_Dareh_N
2.6 Levant_Natufian
2.2 Devils_Gate_Cave
0.0 Caspian_steppe_Eneolithic
0.0 Caucasus_Mesolithic
Hapanuwa
06-14-2020, 01:57 PM
You're welcome! This is mine on same model if you want to compare:

Target: Kaspias_scaled
Distance: 2.6608% / 0.02660776
36.4 Anatolia_Epipaleolithic
26.0 Pontic_steppe_Eneolithic
15.8 Caspian_steppe_Eneolithic
9.6 Ganj_Dareh_N
7.6 Devils_Gate_Cave
4.6 Levant_Natufian
0.0 Caucasus_Mesolithic


Wow, we got pretty close results on some these.

Hapanuwa - Kaspias
38.8 - 36.4 Anatolia_epi
16.4 - 15.8 Caspian_steppe
10 - 9.6 IRN_Ganj
8.2 - 7.6 Devils_gate

Thank you for sharing
Hapanuwa
06-14-2020, 02:00 PM
Target: Impaler_scaled
Distance: 2.9238% / 0.02923804
49.0 Pontic_steppe_Eneolithic
32.2 Anatolia_Epipaleolithic
14.0 Ganj_Dareh_N
2.6 Levant_Natufian
2.2 Devils_Gate_Cave
0.0 Caspian_steppe_Eneolithic
0.0 Caucasus_Mesolithic

How come that you got such high percentage of Ganj_Dareh_N when you're Romanian? Even higher than me and my country is next to Iran
Kaspias
06-14-2020, 02:10 PM
Target: Impaler_scaled
Distance: 2.9238% / 0.02923804
49.0 Pontic_steppe_Eneolithic
32.2 Anatolia_Epipaleolithic
14.0 Ganj_Dareh_N
2.6 Levant_Natufian
2.2 Devils_Gate_Cave
0.0 Caspian_steppe_Eneolithic
0.0 Caucasus_Mesolithic

Our Europid components were not that different in Gedmatch calculators, but you got double more Pontic steppe here than me. And some of my Euro admixtures absorbed among Eastern Steppe which indicates the Turkic(Uralic) origin for them. It is not possible to detect such a thing on GM calculators, that's why ancient models are better.
Ercüment Çizer
06-14-2020, 02:13 PM
Ne kadar ödedin?

Ben de yaptirsam mi..
Hapanuwa
06-14-2020, 02:31 PM
Ne kadar ödedin?

Ben de yaptirsam mi..

12 dollars. Bana yararlı geldi ama Lira'yla kıyaslarsak pahalı olabilir.
Ercüment Çizer
06-14-2020, 03:38 PM
12 dollars. Bana yararlı geldi ama Lira'yla kıyaslarsak pahalı olabilir.

Bendeki dogu asya Kaspias'tan fazla senden biraz az. Sizin sonuçlardan yola çikip tahmin yapabiliyorum yani

Baska ne gibi faideleri var? Gerçekten faideliyse paypal'a para aktarip siparis edebilirim..

Btw, maasi €'ya aliyorum :)
Hapanuwa
06-15-2020, 02:10 PM
Bendeki dogu asya Kaspias'tan fazla senden biraz az. Sizin sonuçlardan yola çikip tahmin yapabiliyorum yani

Baska ne gibi faideleri var? Gerçekten faideliyse paypal'a para aktarip siparis edebilirim..

Btw, maasi €'ya aliyorum :)

Davidski calculatorların faydası hem gedmatch'den daha çok sample sayısı olması hem de sample yakınlığı daha iyi göstermesi bana göre. Bence modelleme de gedmatch'den daha iyi çünkü dörtten fazla etnisite görebilirsin.

Ayrıca eski (ancient) sampleleri kullanarak da modelleyebilirsin. Mesela ben geç Osmanlı dönemi'nden bir Türk'e (Anatolia_IA) yakın çıktım.

Fakat davidski calculator uzmanı değilim, Kaspias gibi üyeler sana daha iyi anlatabilir. İnşallah bozuk Türkçem rağmen yazdıklarımı anlamışındır :)