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Chris596
06-14-2020, 10:20 PM
This is a huge LOL The members were right about us?

Can someone explain this to us? How significant is this?

https://i.imgur.com/okPcuT4.png

https://i.imgur.com/iVmR4wQ.png

Full resolution, large red bar on the 19th chromosome (and on many more as well):

https://i.imgur.com/if5ciHW.png

Largest segment = 7.6 cM
Estimated number of generations to MRCA = 7.4

70.549 Pct SNPs are full identical

Chris596
06-14-2020, 10:36 PM
Bump

I also have more overlaps with her than most people with whom I share between 10-16 cM of DNA on GEDmatch. Very interesting

Edit: I know that this is probably not too significant, but over 70.000 of our SNPs are identical, meanwhile most people with whom our shared DNA segments are longer, often only 40-50 thousand SNPs are the same, so this must mean something, or?

TheMaestro
06-14-2020, 10:54 PM
I said her when you appeared first time on this forum that you two look very much alike.

Ercüment Çizer
06-14-2020, 10:58 PM
@chris
You look like a good guy (phenotype and autosomal-wise) but your y-dna is trash. get rid of it.

gixajo
06-14-2020, 10:59 PM
Bump

I also have more overlaps with her than most people with whom I share between 10-16 cM of DNA on GEDmatch. Very interesting

Edit: I know that this is probably not too significant, but over 70.000 of our SNPs are identical, meanwhile most people with whom our shared DNA segments are longer, often only 40-50 thousand SNPs are the same, so this must mean something, or?

I have the gedmatch kit numbers of several relatives I will compare my kit with the son of my father cousin and I will tell you how much we share.

Chris596
06-14-2020, 11:00 PM
I said her when you appeared first time on this forum that you two look very much alike.

Okay but honestly I couldn't believe it haha. This is just insane. Any comments are welcome and I'm interested in the opinion of every other member as well :rotfl

gixajo
06-14-2020, 11:02 PM
According to MyHeritage I share 7,5% (529,5‎ cM),21 segments and greater shared segment is 69,4‎ cM, with my father cousin.

I will post what gedmatch says about what we share.

Kaspias
06-14-2020, 11:02 PM
This is not something significant, you probably changed default value to 0.1 or 1. Did you?

Chris596
06-14-2020, 11:04 PM
@chris
You look like a good guy (phenotype and autosomal-wise) but your y-dna is trash. get rid of it.

Okay, thanks lol :joker000: With my new data MorleyDNA said that my Y-DNA is M3 but other members said that it's impossible.

Chris596
06-14-2020, 11:07 PM
This is not something significant, you probably changed default value to 0.1 or 1. Did you?

Nope, I didn't change anything, I left all of the settings at default. I will do more comparisons and post them here.

Kaspias
06-14-2020, 11:09 PM
Nope, I didn't change anything, I left all of the settings at default. I will do more comparisons and post them here.

Can you copy all text like this:

Largest segment = 131.7 cM

Total Half-Match segments (HIR) = 3150.2 cM (87.837 Pct)
Estimated number of generations to MRCA = 1.1

46 shared segments found for this comparison.

Chris596
06-14-2020, 11:14 PM
Can you copy all text like this:

Largest segment = 131.7 cM

Total Half-Match segments (HIR) = 3150.2 cM (87.837 Pct)
Estimated number of generations to MRCA = 1.1

46 shared segments found for this comparison.

Sure

Largest segment = 7.6 cM

Total Half-Match segments (HIR) = 7.6 cM (0.213 Pct)
Estimated number of generations to MRCA = 7.4

1 shared segments found for this comparison.

Based on this, I think we had a common ancestor sometimes around 7 generations ago?

gixajo
06-14-2020, 11:16 PM
Largest segment = 57.2 cM

Total Half-Match segments (HIR) = 513.9 cM (14.329 Pct)
Estimated number of generations to MRCA = 2.4

22 shared segments found for this comparison.

198005 SNPs used for this comparison.

53.772 Pct SNPs are full identical

Don´t take into account number of identical segments.

https://i.imgur.com/p3Flcqd.png

https://i.imgur.com/pG76o9U.png

Kaspias
06-14-2020, 11:18 PM
Sure

Largest segment = 7.6 cM

Total Half-Match segments (HIR) = 7.6 cM (0.213 Pct)
Estimated number of generations to MRCA = 7.4

1 shared segments found for this comparison.

Based on this, I think we had a common ancestor sometimes around 7 generations ago?

Yeah, this is not significant at all. If I recall correctly I'm also relative with TA members Ford, Bakha, and Kayra in the same degree.

7-10 generations ago, but reliability could be low.

gixajo
06-14-2020, 11:20 PM
And see this:


Estimated number of generations to MRCA = 2.4

And IrisSelene and you:


Estimated number of generations to MRCA = 7.4

So you have a common ancestor 7-8 generations ago (200 years aprox.)

Congratulations, you are -posible-relatives.

Edit: i add "possible relatives" Kaspias is right

gixajo
06-14-2020, 11:24 PM
Yeah, this is not significant at all. If I recall correctly I'm also relative with TA members Ford, Bakha, and Kayra in the same degree.

7-10 generations ago, but reliability could be low.

As far as I know , ajudging my relatives and me, till 4 generations far away is quite accurate .

Beyond that number I can't comment.

Kaspias
06-14-2020, 11:32 PM
As far as I know , ajudging my relatives and me, till 4 generations far away is quite accurate .

Beyond that number I can't comment.

My father shows up as 1.37 :D

Probably about FTDNA's new chip though.

Chris596
06-14-2020, 11:34 PM
So interesting, thanks for every comment, more members are welcomed to stop by and express their views/opinion on this result.

gixajo
06-14-2020, 11:35 PM
This is what I share with the daughter of my father cousin in Gedmacht:


Largest segment = 42.5 cM

Total Half-Match segments (HIR) = 162.0 cM (4.516 Pct)
Estimated number of generations to MRCA = 3.2

8 shared segments found for this comparison.

198318 SNPs used for this comparison.

52.028 Pct SNPs are full identical

And with the other son:


Largest segment = 57.2 cM

Total Half-Match segments (HIR) = 252.9 cM (7.051 Pct)
Estimated number of generations to MRCA = 2.9

12 shared segments found for this comparison.

198247 SNPs used for this comparison.

52.401 Pct SNPs are full identical

Iris Selene and you both did your test saliva with 23andme?

gixajo
06-14-2020, 11:43 PM
My father shows up as 1.37 :D

Probably about FTDNA's new chip though.

My father and me:


Total Half-Match segments (HIR) = 3567.4 cM (99.472 Pct)
Estimated number of generations to MRCA = 1.0

43 shared segments found for this comparison.

472339 SNPs used for this comparison.

78.005 Pct SNPs are full identical

Maybe your actual father is your uncle...;)

(It´s a joke, there is some margin of error)

Chris596
06-14-2020, 11:46 PM
This is what I share with the daughter of my father cousin in Gedmacht:



And with the other son:



Iris Selene and you both did your test saliva with 23andme?

I think she did 23andme, while I did Myheritage (I wanted to do 23andme but in the end I couldn't do it, it's a long story, I have a separate thread about it). I have 23andme data but it was converted from my Myheritage data. For this reason I used my original Myheritage data.

Kaspias
06-14-2020, 11:50 PM
My father and me:



Maybe your actual father is your uncle...;)

(It´s a joke, there is some margin of error)

:rolleyes:

https://i.ibb.co/Fx4H49R/aas.png

gixajo
06-15-2020, 12:01 AM
:rolleyes:

https://i.ibb.co/Fx4H49R/aas.png


That image could be falsified...:rolleyes:

Kaspias
06-15-2020, 12:04 AM
That image could be falsified...:rolleyes:

busted

Chris596
06-15-2020, 12:13 AM
These are our results when I set the minimum cM to be 4 cM and the minimum segment treshold size to 100 SNPs

I did it after this tutorial and he said it's especially useful to do this if we are not closely related and our identical SNP's are below 100.000.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7J2TGtcOYMs&feature=youtu.be

Now the largest segment is 9.6 cM (???)

Largest segment = 9.6 cM

Total Half-Match segments (HIR) = 124.4 cM (3.468 Pct)

24 shared segments found for this comparison.


https://i.imgur.com/gmNVWlb.png

https://i.imgur.com/AbSjMrK.png

https://i.imgur.com/nUGCZv2.png

Most of these smaller matches are blue (significant).

Chris596
06-15-2020, 01:14 AM
After some additional modifications, inspired by the tutorial:

Minimum segment threshold size to be included in total = 100 SNPs
Minimum segment cM to be included in total = 5.0 cM
Mismatch-bunching Limit = 3 SNPs

Largest segment = 16.2 cM

Total Half-Match segments (HIR) = 638.0 cM (17.790 Pct)
Estimated number of generations to MRCA = 2.2

90 shared segments found for this comparison.

There are 8 chromosomes that show significant relation, at least a quarter of them is blue and some purple parts are present as well.

Morena
06-15-2020, 02:49 AM
This makes me want to find my TA cousins. :D

Trouble
06-15-2020, 05:30 AM
This makes me want to find my TA cousins. :D

Lets all post our gedmatch numbers and crosscheck them

Mortimer
06-15-2020, 06:07 AM
You two look related a bit

Kyp
06-15-2020, 06:14 AM
Not significant, but you guys do look like each other

Chris596
06-15-2020, 10:05 AM
Bump again

Maintenance
06-15-2020, 10:08 AM
Not much at all.

Im closer to IncelSlayer by 2-3 generations :P

Chris596
06-15-2020, 10:17 AM
Not much at all.

Im closer to IncelSlayer by 2-3 generations :P

Woah :D Alright, that's interesting. I think this can be explained because we both have some ancestry from Romania (so we are closer to each other as a whole).

This is not particularly significant, of course, I mean for some reason I have quite a lot of Russian matches, on GEDmatch my top 5th match is Russian (full russian name, russian email). It says 277008 of our SNPs are full identical :eusa_eh: Estimated number of generations to MRCA = 2.5 (I had some distant Rusyn ancestors, maybe this is the reason for it?)

On FTDNA in my top matches there are 16 Russians with whom I match more than 50 cM (at least).