Classify Serbian actress

[MobyD]

https://m.media-amazon.com/images/M/MV5BYTFlZDE5ZjktOTU1YS00NzAzLThkZjAtZDQ0ZDdmMmFjNz g4XkEyXkFqcGdeQXVyNjI0ODMxNDc@._V1_.jpg
https://www.biografija.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/jelisaveta-orasanin-642x336.jpg
https://www.alo.rs/resources/images/0000/127/858/jelisaveta%20foto%20rajko01%20Blic%20Rajko%20Risti c_1000x0.jpg
https://mir-s3-cdn-cf.behance.net/project_modules/fs/f9856320183469.562e70ad62c72.JPG
https://glossy.espreso.rs/data/images/2017/07/29/20/180787_jelisaveta_ff.jpg
https://www.magazinbalkan.eu/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/jelisaveta-990x619.jpg

[Pɪᴇᴛʀᴏ Cʜᴀʀᴅᴏɴɴᴇ]

Dinarid, of course.

[Immanenz]

Dinarid, of course.

With that narrow face and head lenght/ protruding occiput??
She is Atlanto with minor Dinarid influences

[Pɪᴇᴛʀᴏ Cʜᴀʀᴅᴏɴɴᴇ]

With that narrow face and head lenght/ protruding occiput??
She is Atlanto with minor Dinarid influences

Please, don't crucify me. It's my first day on the job!

[Joso]

With that narrow face and head lenght/ protruding occiput??
She is Atlanto with minor Dinarid influences

Many dinarid examples seen to be rather narrow headed.
It was mostly the coon's examples that seemed to have been broad headed but examples from other anthropologists were not that much.
Many were not totally planoccipital, also.
https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-r_iibXxcx1Q/WfIV6UhDYfI/AAAAAAAABiI/QCnCv9P4aJYPlZF51D_zVCVz6AHgXV56ACLcBGAs/s1600/dinarico.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/Nl5Chpu.jpg

[Immanenz]

Many dinarid examples seen to be rather narrow headed.
It was mostly the coon's examples that seemed to have been broad headed but examples from other anthropologists were not that much.
https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-r_iibXxcx1Q/WfIV6UhDYfI/AAAAAAAABiI/QCnCv9P4aJYPlZF51D_zVCVz6AHgXV56ACLcBGAs/s1600/dinarico.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/Nl5Chpu.jpg

I wrote narrow faced, but the point was her head lenght/ protruding occiput.

[Mr.G]

Dinarid + minor Med

[Terminator98]

Dinaro-Med. She is quite atypical for Serbian female. Also, she is considered as very ugly (to be more precise, she is among ugliest Serbian actresses). :D

[Pɪᴇᴛʀᴏ Cʜᴀʀᴅᴏɴɴᴇ]

I wrote narrow faced, but the point was her head lenght/ protruding occiput.

You're wrong anyhow. She's predominantly Dinarid, not minor.

[Immanenz]

You're wrong anyhow. She's predominantly Dinarid, not minor.

And whats your argument, latino? She is clearly doli- meso

[Incal]

Dinaro-Med. She is quite atypical for Serbian female. Also, she is considered as very ugly (to be more precise, she is among ugliest Serbian actresses). :D

Really? I find her cute.

[Pɪᴇᴛʀᴏ Cʜᴀʀᴅᴏɴɴᴇ]

And whats your argument, latino? She is clearly doli- meso

I'm not Latino. I'm a proud American citizen.

Mr. G and Terminator98 are better at classifying people than us, and they classified her as Dinarid first, therefore she is not minor Dinarid as you originally claimed.

You're wrong. Get it?

[Mixdguy17]

Really? I find her cute.

Agree, I also find her cute.

[Immanenz]

I'm not Latino. I'm a proud American citizen.

Mr. G and Terminator98 are better at classifying people than us, and they classified her as Dinarid first, therefore she is not minor Dinarid as you originally claimed.

You're wrong. Get it?


lol, they classified her by soft issue/ length of nose etc. also Terminator classified her as DinaroMed
occiput and head length is essential when it comes to Dinaric
http://www.albanianphotography.net/coon/
https://www.theapricity.com/snpa/troeplate39.htm
fig. 5 is described as prime Dinaric example. The epicentrum of Dinaric is Albania, where flat occiput, brachy heads are very characterstic for the population.

[Pɪᴇᴛʀᴏ Cʜᴀʀᴅᴏɴɴᴇ]

lol, they classified her by soft issue/ length of nose etc. also Terminator classified her as DinaroMed
occiput and head length is essential when it comes to Dinaric
http://www.albanianphotography.net/coon/
https://www.theapricity.com/snpa/troeplate39.htm
fig. 5 is described as prime Dinaric example. The epicentrum of Dinaric is Albania, where flat occiput, brachy heads are very characterstic for the population.

Wait for the other classifications.

[Terminator98]

DinaroMed = Dinarized Mediterranean.

[Ford]

Dinaricized Atlanto-Med

[Immanenz]

Wait for the other classifications.

i m not waiting for a popular opinion contest. i m looking at her head shape. there are many people classifying with bias, if she would be from England, people would throw in Keltic/ Atlantid, in Spain she would be in fact AtlantoBaskid- which would be more accurate than Dinarid

[Daos777]

Dinaro-Med

You can see she isn’t full Dinarid because she’s not brachy.


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[CommonSense]

Clearly Dinaro-Med


Agree, I also find her cute.

She aint really attractive to me, but Teodosić who's a well-off basketball player chose to marry her of all women, so there has to be something there.

[Mr.G]

I do suspect she is Dinaric dominant (soft tissues, facial profile, face dominant - being key elements). I see the Med represented by, from my impression of (this photo set), a non Brachy skull.

However, regarding a woman with her hair in a ponytail like OP, I have seen that the hair can puff out the bottom and give the impression of a longer head than the reality. But her forehead does not seem broad.

Now all that said, it probably would take me about 3 sips of a beer to switch camps to the Atlanto Med + Dinaric club haha.

[Immanenz]

I do suspect she is Dinaric dominant (soft tissues, facial profile, face dominant - being key elements). I see the Med represented by, from my impression of (this photo set), a non Brachy skull.

However, regarding a woman with her hair in a ponytail like OP, I have seen that the hair can puff out the bottom and give the impression of a longer head than the reality. But her forehead does not seem broad.

Now all that said, it probably would take me about 3 sips of a beer to switch camps to the Atlanto Med + Dinaric club haha.

i agree that with women its not always easy to say because of hair/ make up etc. however the strong AtlantoMed is for me is evident in her case despite some Dianric input.


Nr. 3 (Person from Poland/Ukraine border) is an excellent Dinarid example, where i cant neither see any Alpine nor Med input.
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[Daos777]

i agree that with women its not always easy to say because of hair/ make up etc. however the strong AtlantoMed is for me is evident in her case despite some Dianric input.


Nr. 3 (Person from Poland/Ukraine border) is an excellent Dinarid example, where i cant neither see any Alpine nor Med input.
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Isn’t that guy Norid? Due to lighter pigmentation?


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[Ercüment Çizer]

Many balkan slavs look like this. Not my type..

[Immanenz]

Isn’t that guy Norid? Due to lighter pigmentation?


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For Coon propably yes, because he saw Norid as a depigmented Dinarid, which actually just proof my point that metrics matter most when it comes to Dinarid.
However his Norid term does not seem plausible to me, others used it as a intermediate between Dinarid and Nordid, which seems more accurat to me and corresponds also more to what people see as Norid.

[zeybek]

Dinarid

[Davy Jones's Locker]

Dinaric-Mediterranean.

[Pɪᴇᴛʀᴏ Cʜᴀʀᴅᴏɴɴᴇ]

Easy.

[Immanenz]

Easy.

as i said, its not a populariy contest, arguments count the most.
people are not consistent in their classification, as this Belgium DJ got classified as "Atlantid" by some here even though she looks more southern even than that the Serbian woman.
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?321663-Classify-Amelie-Lens-Belgian-techno-DJ-and-producer
most users said DinaroMed, which is fine to me, Zeybek doesnt count because he classified even a Finnish dolicepahlic woman as Dinarid lol

[Joso]

I wrote narrow faced, but the point was her head lenght/ protruding occiput.

Dinarids have narrow and receding maxila, this is where they get their long face and convex profile from. It is only their zigomatic bones that are wide.
Most modern people don't have good cheekbone definition because of bad habits like mouthbreathening and bad masticatory habits.
But the actress do have good zigomatic definition.
She only have narrower and more long skull but overall looks very dinarid, her skull also doesn't look that much long to me, the hair seen to be obscuring it, the angle also doesn't help.
She looks almost just like female version of this Coon's example:
https://www.theapricity.com/snpa/bilder/troe393.jpg
Like this one a little bit too:
https://www.theapricity.com/snpa/bilder/troe371.jpg
She even have the characteristical dinarid nasolabial fold, which is not very visible in the OP photos but in this one, it is more:
https://assets.mubicdn.net/images/cast_member/489512/image-original.jpg?1570501628

[Joso]

I do suspect she is Dinaric dominant (soft tissues, facial profile, face dominant - being key elements). I see the Med represented by, from my impression of (this photo set), a non Brachy skull.

However, regarding a woman with her hair in a ponytail like OP, I have seen that the hair can puff out the bottom and give the impression of a longer head than the reality. But her forehead does not seem broad.

Now all that said, it probably would take me about 3 sips of a beer to switch camps to the Atlanto Med + Dinaric club haha.

Very good, Agree.
Even because dinarids and pontids/atlanto-meds don't look that much different from each other, so it is a bit difficulty to differ indeed.
Difference is mostly in cephalic index.
Agree about hair on women and make-up as well.

[Joso]

BTW.
She looks very good.
Rate: 9,5/10

[Immanenz]

Very good, Agree.
Even because dinarids and pontids/atlanto-meds don't look that much different from each other, so it is a bit difficulty to differ indeed.
Difference is mostly in cephalic index.
Agree about hair on women and make-up as well.

while i agree with many points you mentioned before, this is also a point that is true and this is why i dont see her as Dinarid, but DinaroMed.
True Taurid like types developed in Iran Neolithic/ Caucasus Hunter Gatherer, thats why you ll have the best examples of Taurid like type in the Caucasus/ Iran/ Kurdish/ Levant area.
How Dinarid types in Europe developed is more complexe as it could be linked to the CHG Bell Beaker expansion intermixing with Neolithic folks, or partially prior by mixing of Anatholic Farmer with WHG, which she might be an example of.