Post both your updated Vahaduo K13 and K15 single pop results :

[JamesBond007]

So, I used to criticize Eurogenes because K13 said I was 'Irish' and K15 said I was English but now they both agree I am English which makes more sense than G25 modern averaged scaled sheet which has me as Dutch :

I'm either paleo-atlantid or north-atlantid :



England = 25% Keltic Nordic (derived from pre-Roman invaders), 15% Anglo-Saxon (post-Roman Germanic invaders, most common in the southeast, especially East Anglia), 15% Brünn {indigenous Paleolithic inhabitants}, 15% North-Atlantid and 10% Palaeo-Atlantid (blend of Mesolithic Atlanto-Mediterranean invaders with both earlier and later arrivals; most common in the Midlands and northwest), 8% Hallstatt Nordic (of Viking and Norman derivation), 5% Trønder (of Norwegian Viking derivation; most common in the northeast), 3% Borreby and 2% Fälish (both of Viking and Norman derivation; associated with the landed gentry; source of the "John Bull" type), 2% Noric (from Bronze-Age invaders) = 100% Nordish (73% central and 27% periphery types)


Eurogenes Vahaduo K15 updated

Distance to: Kevin
2.37520525 English_Midlands
2.65992481 Welsh
2.70270235 English_North
2.81662919 England
2.88652040 Dutch
3.75050663 Scotland
4.22808467 Southwest_English
4.31929392 Southeast_English
4.41881206 North_Dutch
4.97456531 West_Scottish
5.04011905 Irish
5.14975728 Orcadian
6.15706911 North_German
6.45000775 Danish
6.96861536 Belgium
7.17009065 Norway
7.67802709 Norwegian
7.84291400 Swedish
8.16741697 South_Dutch
8.65738991 West_Norwegian
8.84203596 North_Swedish
9.11516319 West_German
10.44853578 German_Bavarian
12.13928746 North_Swedish
13.10412912 French


Vahaduo Eurogenes K13 updated


Distance to: Kevin
3.56908952 English_Midlands
3.88243480 Irish
4.00098738 Welsh
4.15497292 English
4.17688879 Scottish
4.28316472 English_North
4.42910826 Orcadian
4.84246838 West_Scottish
5.40641286 Southwest_English
5.71061293 North-Dutch
6.30891433 Southeast_English
7.10757343 Norwegian
7.15918990 North_German
7.45373061 Danish
7.54085539 German_West
9.63037382 South_Dutch
9.90812798 Swedish
10.87818919 West_German
14.78477934 Swiss_German
15.67330214 French
16.46001215 Austrian
16.52131653 North-Swedish
16.73895755 East_German
17.58087029 Swiss_French
19.14959791 German_east


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FkF_XpA5P48

[Halgurd]

I’d say overall k13 is more accurate. Who needs g25 when you have a perfectly working calculator like this.

K13

Distance to: Halgurd
3.86155409 Kurdish
4.91391901 Kurd_Sorani
5.12812831 Kurd_Iran
5.14094349 Kurd_Kurmanji_Turkey
5.31680355 Talysh
5.61853184 Zaza
6.44654946 Iranian
6.45146495 Lor_Iran
6.78301555 Azerbaijani_Iran
6.83339593 Turkmen_Iraq
6.89409893 Azeri
7.96743999 Azerbaijani_Turkey
8.52567886 Turk_East
9.17221892 Turk_South_East
9.26525229 Armenian_East
10.88272484 Iran_Centraleast
11.76587013 Georgian_Jewish
12.20090980 Armenian_West
12.53008380 Turk_Meskhetian
12.77817671 Turkish_mixed
13.30272904 Turk_East_Black_Sea
13.55033210 Greek_Caucasus
13.88559325 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
14.23899575 Laz
14.28572364 Turk_Central_East

K15

Distance to: Halgurd
5.76537943 Kurd
7.49423779 Azerbaijani
8.56206751 Iranian_Lur
8.78473676 Iranian_Persian
9.34193770 Armenian_East
9.59787476 Iranian_Mazandarani
10.60144330 Turkish_East
11.33802452 Georgian_Jew
11.57818639 Armenian_West
12.71048386 Turkish_Kayseri
12.73055773 Turkish_Anatolia
13.42002981 Greek_Trabzon
13.63459570 Turkish_Adana
14.08645094 Assyrian
14.64919793 Azeri_Dagestan
15.18420890 Turkish_Trabzon
15.19191890 Turk_Meskhetian
16.12951952 Georgian_Laz
18.47964827 Kurdish_Jew
19.71134699 Turkish_Aydin
20.05243127 Turkmen
20.24217874 Iranian_Jew
20.51013164 Lebanese_Muslim
21.52184007 Iranian_Bandari
21.53173472 Syrian

[J. Ketch]

So, I used to criticize Eurogenes because K13 said I was 'Irish' and K15 said I was English but now they both agree I am English which makes more sense than G25 modern averaged scaled sheet which has me as Dutch :

I'm either paleo-atlantid or north-atlantid :



England = 25% Keltic Nordic (derived from pre-Roman invaders), 15% Anglo-Saxon (post-Roman Germanic invaders, most common in the southeast, especially East Anglia), 15% Brünn {indigenous Paleolithic inhabitants}, 15% North-Atlantid and 10% Palaeo-Atlantid (blend of Mesolithic Atlanto-Mediterranean invaders with both earlier and later arrivals; most common in the Midlands and northwest), 8% Hallstatt Nordic (of Viking and Norman derivation), 5% Trønder (of Norwegian Viking derivation; most common in the northeast), 3% Borreby and 2% Fälish (both of Viking and Norman derivation; associated with the landed gentry; source of the "John Bull" type), 2% Noric (from Bronze-Age invaders) = 100% Nordish (73% central and 27% periphery types)


Eurogenes Vahaduo K15 updated

Distance to: Kevin
2.37520525 English_Midlands
2.65992481 Welsh
2.70270235 English_North
2.81662919 England
2.88652040 Dutch
3.75050663 Scotland
4.22808467 Southwest_English
4.31929392 Southeast_English
4.41881206 North_Dutch
4.97456531 West_Scottish
5.04011905 Irish
5.14975728 Orcadian
6.15706911 North_German
6.45000775 Danish
6.96861536 Belgium
7.17009065 Norway
7.67802709 Norwegian
7.84291400 Swedish
8.16741697 South_Dutch
8.65738991 West_Norwegian
8.84203596 North_Swedish
9.11516319 West_German
10.44853578 German_Bavarian
12.13928746 North_Swedish
13.10412912 French


Vahaduo Eurogenes K13 updated


Distance to: Kevin
3.56908952 English_Midlands
3.88243480 Irish
4.00098738 Welsh
4.15497292 English
4.17688879 Scottish
4.28316472 English_North
4.42910826 Orcadian
4.84246838 West_Scottish
5.40641286 Southwest_English
5.71061293 North-Dutch
6.30891433 Southeast_English
7.10757343 Norwegian
7.15918990 North_German
7.45373061 Danish
7.54085539 German_West
9.63037382 South_Dutch
9.90812798 Swedish
10.87818919 West_German
14.78477934 Swiss_German
15.67330214 French
16.46001215 Austrian
16.52131653 North-Swedish
16.73895755 East_German
17.58087029 Swiss_French
19.14959791 German_east


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FkF_XpA5P48
I made that English Midlands average from 10 local kits. Ideally I'd like to get 20 for it, as well as for English_North. Also make averages for Leinster, Connacht and Munster.

And you're not Paleo-Atlantid. Just Atlantid.

[Chris596]

Vahaduo Eurogenes K13 Updated

2.77447292 Serb_Croatia_Kordun&Banija
2.99006689 Romania_Moldavia_North
3.05632132 Serb_Serbia_West&Central
3.13663833 Serb_Serbia_Vojvodina
3.22116439 Bosniak
3.23549069 Serb
3.25511905 Serb_Serbia
3.32863335 Serb_Croatia
3.62229982 Bosniak_Sarajevo
3.62474827 Romania_Maramures
3.63550547 Serb_B&H
3.64406367 Serb_B&H_Krajina
3.76528883 Serb_Croatia_Lika&Dalmatia
3.81714553 Serb_B&H_Northeast&Central
3.87178254 Romania_Moldavia_average
3.92103303 Moldova_Centre
3.95246758 Croat_Croatia_Dalmatia
4.08115180 Croat_B&H_West_Bosnia
4.24228712 Croat_B&H_Herzegovina
4.29129351 Croat_B&H
4.47843793 Hungarian_Csango
4.50558542 Serb_Herzegovina
4.54726291 Moldova_average
4.69229155 Croat_Croatia_Istria&Kvarner
4.69476304 Romania_Crisana

My results are made up of pretty much just Balkanic populations, my top 150 results are all below 20 and it's just East European Slavic and Turkish, Turkic nations (so very accurate in my opinion)

Vahaduo Eurogenes K15 Updated

4.94220599 Bosniak
5.27331964 Romania_Ne
6.39380189 Bosnian
7.21506194 Serbian_Bosnia
7.36702111 Romania_Sw
7.56411925 Romania_Nw
7.62556719 Szekely
7.78319343 Romanian
8.34528609 South_Serbian
8.81896241 Macedonian
9.10900653 Moldavian
9.12005482 Croatian
9.22196291 Romania_South
9.29368603 Serbian
9.39607777 Montenegrin
9.57222022 Bulgarian
9.91072457 Slovenian
11.35310090 Austrian
11.54062823 Romania_Se
11.83394693 Hungarian
11.84613861 Kaykavian_Croatian
11.97117110 Croat_Bosnia
12.56752561 Gagauz
13.13003427 Macedonian_2
13.72896573 Czech

[Blemoir]

K13

7.53572160 Liguria
7.64598587 Emilia
8.16102935 Tuscany
8.39603478 Tuscan
8.74559889 Lombardy
9.01099883 Piedmont
9.25058377 Romagna
9.54490964 Veneto
9.84275876 Friuli-VG
9.94757759 Umbria
10.28076359 FrenchCorsica
10.73653110 Marche
10.82878109 Lazio
11.06901531 Swiss_Italian
11.27385914 Swiss-Italian
11.53712703 Trentino
13.06709608 Portuguese
13.18496871 Greek_Central-Macedonia
13.29271981 Spanish_Extremadura
13.78430629 Vlach_Central-Macedonia
13.84603553 Albanian_north_Albania
13.88568327 Albanian_Macedonia
13.91486256 West_Sicilian
13.97239779 Albanian_Kosovo
13.97924533 Albanian_south_Albania

K15

8.06817823 Italy_Liguria
8.66331923 Italy_Tuscany
9.02034367 Tuscan
9.12939209 Italy_Emiliaromagna
9.57933192 Italy_Lombardy
10.33307795 Italy_Veneto
10.49851418 Italy_Friuli
11.03661180 France_Corsica
11.20780978 Italy_Piedmont
11.42604919 Italy_Marche
11.51736949 Italy_Lazio
12.15694863 Spanish_Extremadura
12.47476252 Spanish_Murcia
12.75557525 Portuguese
12.89837974 Italy_Trentino
13.29925186 West_Sicilian
13.62606326 Albanian-Kosovo
13.85402469 Albanian-Macedonia
13.95559744 Spanish_Andalucia
14.16325881 Albanian-South
14.21744351 Spanish_Galicia
14.26654829 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon
14.40125843 Kosovo_Albanian
14.64649105 Spanish_Cataluna
14.82820960 Albanian-North

[Gründig]

K15
Distance to: G
3.70199946 German_Bavarian
5.07261274 South_Dutch
6.90554125 Belgium
7.79351012 North_German
7.79404260 Austria-Tyrol
8.23745713 Austria-Burgenland
8.75599794 French
8.88010698 West_German
9.41241202 East_German
9.81033129 Southwest_English
10.37706124 Southeast_English
10.62625522 England
10.66115847 Dutch
10.73942736 English_North
11.07022583 English_Midlands
11.52571473 Welsh
11.54575247 North_Dutch
11.60542115 Italy_Aostavalley
11.62628488 Irish
11.91464645 Austrian
12.61438068 West_Scottish
12.61570450 Scotland
13.71497721 Hungarian
13.83536411 Danish
14.02068829 Kaykavian_Croatian

K13
Distance to: G
3.66582869 West_German
4.93688161 Swiss_German
5.00747441 South_Dutch
5.28513008 German_West
6.58058508 Austrian
7.86701341 Swiss_French
8.75086281 East_German
8.98581660 North_German
9.82529898 French
10.27693534 Danish
10.37204898 English_North
10.41382255 English
10.78989805 Southeast_English
10.96655370 English_Midlands
11.65640039 Hungarian_Transdanubia
12.26534549 Orcadian
12.45971910 North-Dutch
12.49933449 Hungarian_Budapest
12.56593013 Croat_Croatia_Gorski_Kotar
12.73086800 AostaValley
12.79985937 Southwest_English
12.88727279 Welsh
12.99079289 Swedish
13.29010158 German_east
13.35322433 Irish

[Ion Basescul]

<tbody>
Distance to:
IonBasescul_23andme+LivingDNA


3.19762900
Hungarian_Csango


3.80711177
Serb_B&H_Northeast&Central


3.83867165
Bosniak


3.86701435
Serb_B&H


3.87171362
Hungarian_Transylvania


3.90599539
Bulgarian_Dupnitsa


3.96426295
Hungarian_Szekely


4.05217423
Bosniak_Sarajevo


4.06057878
Serb_B&H_Krajina


4.08931535
Croat_B&H_West_Bosnia


4.17964113
Serb_Serbia_West&Central


4.18390965
Croat_Croatia_Dalmatia


4.20414082
Serb_Croatia_Kordun&Banija


4.47792363
Serb_Serbia_Vojvodina


4.49958887
Serb


4.53342034
Serb_Croatia


4.54619621
Romania_Maramures


4.57853688
Romania_Moldavia_North


4.59415934
Croat_B&H


4.80762935
Moldova_North


4.84764891
Serb_Serbia


4.90211179
Serb_Croatia_Lika&Dalmatia


5.05399842
Croat_B&H_Herzegovina


5.14678540
Romania_Moldavia_average


5.24420633
Croat_Croatia_Lika-Senj

</tbody>


<tbody>
Distance to:
IonBasescul_brother_MyHeritage


5.37452472
Bosniak_Sarajevo


5.70785424
Moldova_Centre


5.73422183
Moldova_North


5.76028645
Croat_B&H_West_Bosnia


5.94440073
Croat_B&H_Herzegovina


6.03741667
Bosniak


6.14699927
Romania_Moldavia_North


6.20797874
Serb_Croatia_Kordun&Banija


6.31818803
Serb_B&H_Krajina


6.34094630
Serb_Serbia_West&Central


6.35848252
Serb_B&H_Northeast&Central


6.48927577
Romania_Maramures


6.50612788
Croat_B&H


6.51420755
Croat_Croatia_Dalmatia


6.69105373
Serb_B&H


6.77267303
Moldova_average


6.97524910
Serb


6.98406042
Serb_Croatia


7.07349277
Serb_Serbia


7.11413074
Hungarian_Csango


7.19744399
Bosniak_Bosnia_NE&Central


7.33464382
Romania_Moldavia_average


7.38562117
Serb_Serbia_Vojvodina


7.45707047
Croat_Croatia_Lika-Senj


7.51348787
Croat_Croatia_Istria&Kvarner

</tbody>


<tbody>
Distance to:
IonBasescul_dad_MyHeritage


4.93850180
Moldova_North


5.09970587
Croat_B&H_West_Bosnia


5.23359940
Bosniak_Sarajevo


5.81316609
Bosniak


5.84220849
Croat_B&H


5.85626161
Croat_Croatia_Dalmatia


5.90809614
Serb_B&H_Northeast&Central


5.92460969
Croat_Croatia_Slavonia


5.95138639
Croat_B&H_Herzegovina


6.05209485
Hungarian_Transylvania


6.10351538
Serb_Croatia_Kordun&Banija


6.11495963
Hungarian_Csango


6.29980158
Bosniak_Bosnia_NE&Central


6.30215043
Croat


6.37525686
Serb_B&H


6.49438989
Croat_Croatia


6.50986943
Croat_Croatia_Lika-Senj


6.54362285
Serb_B&H_Krajina


6.55726315
Serb_Serbia_West&Central


6.58344368
Hungarian_Szekely


6.61845148
Romania_Moldavia_North


6.98924889
Croat_B&H_Bosnia


7.00306362
Bulgarian_Dupnitsa


7.05762000
Serb_Croatia


7.10104922
Serb_Serbia_Vojvodina

</tbody>


<tbody>
Distance to:
IonBasescul_mom_MyHeritage


5.33507263
Moldova_North


5.42625101
Croat_B&H_Herzegovina


5.70160504
Bosniak_Bosnia_NE&Central


5.79529487
Bosniak_Sarajevo


6.25439046
Croat_B&H_West_Bosnia


6.49678382
Croat_B&H


6.75053331
Bosniak


6.83921048
Serb_B&H_Northeast&Central


6.92196504
Croat_Croatia_Dalmatia


7.01856823
Serb_Croatia_Kordun&Banija


7.05067373
Croat_Croatia_Istria&Kvarner


7.09270047
Romania_Maramures


7.17453831
Croat_Croatia_Lika-Senj


7.19788163
Moldova_Centre


7.45120796
Serb_Serbia_West&Central


7.46808543
Serb_B&H


7.76884161
Croat


7.89217334
Serb_B&H_Krajina


7.94353825
Serb_Croatia


7.99834983
Croat_Croatia_Slavonia


8.07935022
Croat_Croatia


8.13494929
Croat_B&H_Bosnia


8.28671226
Serb


8.31266504
Serb_Serbia


8.38738934
Romania_Moldavia_North



</tbody>

[Brás Garcia de Mascarenhas]

K13


Distance to: Viriato
3.23292437 Portuguese
3.93624186 Spanish_Extremadura
4.88668599 Spanish_Galicia
5.04575069 Spanish_Murcia
5.26206233 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon
5.60081244 Swiss-Italian
5.65020354 Spanish_Andalucia
5.68664224 Spanish_Cataluna
6.00774500 Spanish_Valencia
6.37721726 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha
6.80600470 Piedmont
7.19443535 Swiss_Italian
7.46456295 AostaValley
8.11696988 Spanish_Cantabria
8.20635729 Lombardy
8.46095148 Trentino
8.49180193 Veneto
9.89720162 Spanish_Aragon
10.18237202 Liguria
10.28382225 Southwest_French
10.42528177 Friuli-VG
11.19542317 Emilia
11.36765587 French
12.18064038 Swiss_French
12.72202028 Tuscany

K15


Distance to: Viriato
3.72943695 Portuguese
4.64945158 Spanish_Extremadura
5.30538406 Spanish_Murcia
5.95713857 Spanish_Galicia
6.04763590 Spanish_Cataluna
6.43324180 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon
6.74649539 Italy_Piedmont
7.71746720 Spanish_Andalucia
8.04015547 Spanish_Valencia
8.14915333 France-South
8.32299826 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha
8.65254876 Italy_Lombardy
8.65502744 Spanish_Cantabria
9.11709932 Italy_Veneto
9.77480435 Italy_Trentino
10.17882606 Italy_Aostavalley
10.27766997 Italy_Liguria
10.44439563 Spanish_Aragon
10.48922304 Italy_Friuli
10.99508072 Southwest_French
12.61143529 Italy_Tuscany
12.83151589 French
13.13081871 Italy_Emiliaromagna
14.26128325 Austria-Tyrol
15.03297708 Tuscan

[Dr_Maul]

K15

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Iranian 4.57
2 Kurdish 5.27
3 Azeri 7.89
4 Georgian_Jewish 11.56
5 Turkish 11.93
6 Armenian 12.13
7 Assyrian 12.67
8 Iranian_Jewish 14.02
9 Turkmen 16
10 Kurdish_Jewish 16.06
11 Lebanese_Muslim 18.18
12 Kumyk 18.93
13 Syrian 19.09
14 Makrani 20.49
15 Cyprian 22.05
16 Lezgin 23.01
17 Adygei 23.04
18 Georgian 23.09
19 Lebanese_Christian 23.35
20 Lebanese_Druze 23.5

K13
# Population (source) Distance
1 Iranian 4.04
2 Kurdish 5.36
3 Azeri 7.51
4 Georgian_Jewish 11.2
5 Armenian 11.62
6 Turkish 12.58
7 Assyrian 13.59
8 Iranian_Jewish 15.2
9 Kumyk 15.55
10 Kurdish_Jewish 16.16
11 Georgian 17.06
12 Turkmen 17.22
13 Adygei 17.69
14 Abhkasian 18.12
15 Balkar 19.5
16 Ossetian 20.13
17 Lebanese_Muslim 20.25
18 Kabardin 20.29
19 North_Ossetian 20.32
20 Syrian 20.84

[Kyp]

Father:
K13:

Distance to: Father_k13
5.11747985 Azerbaijani_Turkey
5.77252111 Azerbaijani_Iran
6.14121324 Azeri
8.14106258 Talysh
8.17735287 Turk_East
8.38862325 Kurd_Kurmanji_Turkey
8.52766088 Zaza
8.55701467 Turk_South_East
9.12859792 Kurd_Sorani
9.57488381 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
9.81257866 Kurdish
10.02913755 Turk_Central_East
10.12006423 Turkish_mixed
10.13047383 Lor_Iran
10.27372863 Iranian
10.37165368 Kurd_Iran
10.38467140 Turkmen_Iraq
10.90130726 Turk_Anatolia
10.90635136 Turk_South
11.31431836 Iran_Centraleast
12.45664080 Turk_Central_West
12.67154687 Turkmen
13.60760449 Kumyk
13.74723245 Armenian_East
14.35754854 Turk_North_West

K15:

Distance to: Father15
7.35138082 Azerbaijani
9.76744593 Iranian_Persian
10.66624583 Turkish_Kayseri
10.69580292 Iranian_Lur
11.00562129 Turkish_Anatolia
11.99211408 Turkmen
12.03469983 Turkish_Adana
12.17793907 Iranian_Mazandarani
13.40443210 Kurd
13.65325602 Turkish_Aydin
13.93853651 Azeri_Dagestan
14.94150595 Turkish_East
15.09519791 Armenian_East
15.74479597 Turkish_Balikesir
16.11475721 Armenian_West
16.77208395 Georgian_Jew
16.88710751 Iranian_Bandari
17.45507376 Greek_Trabzon
19.02999737 Turk_Meskhetian
19.11405504 Assyrian
20.04760834 Turkish_Trabzon
20.41432830 Georgian_Laz
21.90533497 Afghan_Uzbeki
21.97295838 Afghan_Tadjik
22.57679118 Lebanese_Muslim
Mother:
K13:

Distance to: Mother13
5.20588129 German_West
5.99438904 West_German
6.14463994 South_Dutch
6.33061608 Austrian
7.10468859 East_German
7.35611310 Swiss_German
8.19727394 North_German
8.74442680 Danish
9.44261616 English_North
9.57995303 English
10.14405737 Swiss_French
10.17086525 English_Midlands
10.26641612 Southeast_English
10.98442079 Swedish
11.24321573 Orcadian
11.27713616 German_east
11.38771268 North-Dutch
11.53743039 French
11.76141148 Welsh
11.92561356 Hungarian_Transdanubia
12.00084164 Southwest_English
12.17318775 Norwegian
12.34763945 Irish
12.54586385 Hungarian_Budapest
12.65812782 Croat_Croatia_Gorski_Kotar
K15:

Distance to: Mother15
5.64333235 German_Bavarian
6.27780216 South_Dutch
6.52205489 North_German
6.82636799 Austria-Burgenland
6.95627055 East_German
8.14143108 Belgium
9.04780084 West_German
9.97098791 Southwest_English
9.99414328 Dutch
10.07683978 English_North
10.10708168 Austria-Tyrol
10.25261918 North_Dutch
10.26522284 Southeast_English
10.45768139 England
10.78555052 English_Midlands
10.82850405 French
10.97329030 Irish
10.98931299 Austrian
11.43613571 Czech
11.86719849 Hungarian
12.03392288 Danish
12.03786526 West_Scottish
12.06218886 Swedish
12.11340167 North_Swedish
12.14992181 Scotland

[Coastal Elite]

Eurogenes K13 updated

Distance to: DacoCeltic_scaled
4.92461166 Swiss_German
5.55372848 Swiss_French
5.94655362 West_German
7.29870536 French
7.66045691 South_Dutch
8.19735323 AostaValley
10.34178901 German_West
11.93291666 Austrian
12.42264867 Trentino
12.56745002 Friuli-VG
13.00593711 Swiss-Italian
13.60425669 Swiss_Italian
13.64607270 Southeast_English
14.14187753 North_German
14.16175483 English
14.20691381 Veneto
14.22238377 Spanish_Cataluna
14.35247714 English_North
14.40170476 English_Midlands
14.70344858 East_German
14.99103065 Piedmont
15.18204707 Hungarian_Transdanubia
15.21182764 Portuguese
15.26668132 Hungarian_Szekely
15.62553679 Southwest_English

Eurogenes K15 updated

Distance to: Daco
5.87577229 German_Bavarian
6.15732085 Austria-Tyrol
8.47151698 French
8.56407029 Italy_Aostavalley
8.57219342 South_Dutch
8.90731160 Belgium
9.38492408 West_German
10.34191472 Austria-Burgenland
10.99064147 Italy_Trentino
12.00307461 Italy_Piedmont
12.38181328 North_German
12.56442995 Italy_Veneto
12.76083853 Italy_Friuli
12.77948649 Szekely
12.87117322 France-South
13.21796505 East_German
13.31060855 Austrian
13.44093375 Southwest_English
13.88539160 Southeast_English
14.47978246 Hungarian
14.56319333 Dutch
14.57657024 Serbian
14.63668678 English_North
14.71791765 Spanish_Cataluna
14.74371731 England

[Chris596]

Btw how common is it for someone that on Eurogenes K13 the distance for the first 150 populations is below 20? (literally). Most people already get results above 10-15 distance after the first 7-8 populations as I see.

[Kyp]

Btw how common is it for someone that on Eurogenes K13 the distance for the first 150 populations is below 20? (literally). Most people already get results above 10-15 distance after the first 7-8 results as I see.

It's just because there are a ton of samples for Balkan area added. A lot more than for any other area.

[gixajo]

K13

Target: gixajo
Distance: 1.5808% / 1.58081268
67.8 French_Basque
9.0 Saudi
8.0 Cossacks_Kuban
6.8 Sardinian
6.2 Latvian
1.4 Somali
0.4 Papuan
0.4 Sakilli


Distance to: gixajo
4.47476256 Spanish_Cantabria
4.94969696 Southwest_French
6.53212064 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha
6.91217766 Spanish_Galicia
7.33265982 Spanish_Aragon
7.38237089 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon
8.40199976 Spanish_Cataluna
8.42181097 Spanish_Extremadura
8.92045402 Portuguese
8.98541596 Spanish_Andalucia
9.14169022 Spanish_Valencia
9.27604981 Spanish_Murcia
12.41451570 AostaValley
13.17520778 French
13.64840650 Swiss-Italian
15.04626864 Swiss_Italian
15.54981029 Piedmont
15.58537776 French_Basque
16.26816831 Swiss_French
16.30778342 Trentino
16.98894346 Lombardy
17.36129027 Veneto
17.72955724 Swiss_German
18.92868194 Friuli-VG
18.97834029 South_Dutch

K15

Target: gixajo
Distance: 3.4839% / 3.48389449
41.6 French_Basque
35.4 Spanish_Galicia
7.8 Ukrainian_Lviv
6.8 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon
6.2 Sardinian
1.4 Somali
0.4 North_Ossetian
0.4 Papuan


Distance to: gixajo
4.33181255 Spanish_Cantabria
4.90172419 Southwest_French
6.25872990 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon
6.43763155 Spanish_Aragon
6.44364804 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha
7.62068238 Spanish_Valencia
7.75565600 Spanish_Cataluna
8.21763956 Spanish_Andalucia
8.31696459 Spanish_Extremadura
8.74255112 Spanish_Murcia
8.99834429 Portuguese
9.45528424 France-South
9.87673023 Spanish_Galicia
12.68365484 Italy_Piedmont
14.02670311 Italy_Aostavalley
14.81813416 French
14.94477835 French_Basque
15.85601779 Italy_Trentino
16.63125070 Italy_Lombardy
16.63299131 Italy_Veneto
17.15039650 Italy_Friuli
17.94237442 Italy_Liguria
18.17595390 Austria-Tyrol
18.75963752 German_Bavarian
19.16963223 South_Dutch

[Kaspias]

Eurogenes K13

https://i.ibb.co/Br96mt6/Kaspias-horz.jpg

Eurogenes K15

https://i.ibb.co/YN2XX0B/Kaspiask15-horz.jpg

[Epirus DNA]

The Vahaduo calculators are really not accurate for Greeks. These K13/K15 Vadahuo give me some weird results that are very different from my family history as well as GedMatch etc. I am definitely not 40% Croatian / Bosniak LOL I have never seen this before. This is new for me on the updated calc.

K13 Vahaduo / Eurogenes + GedMatch

https://i.imgur.com/LsYpuev.png

https://i.imgur.com/dKK0fYH.png

https://i.imgur.com/GDE4UWI.png

K15 Vahaduo / Eurogenes + GedMatch

https://i.imgur.com/Mb0ny5B.png

https://i.imgur.com/BVi41pe.png

https://i.imgur.com/vr249Vo.png

[Thracian]

K13


Distance to: Thracian_23andMe
4.66840444 Turk_Stara-Zagora
5.73613982 Turk_Targovishte
6.00818608 Turk_Kavala
6.41832533 Turk_Alexandroupoli
6.44848044 Macedonian_Southeast
6.75689278 Turk_Kardzhali-East
6.87028384 Turk_Kazanlik
7.05139702 Turk_Xanthi
7.42994616 Turk_Burgas
7.44307060 Turk_Komotini

Distance to: Thracian_FTDNA
5.98195620 Turk_Stara-Zagora
6.38141834 Turk_Kardzhali-West
7.03752087 Turk_Edirne
7.07247481 Macedonian_Southeast
7.56331277 Turk_Kavala
7.77345483 Turk_Kardzhali-East
7.84771304 Pomak_Drama
8.06550680 Turk_Kardzhali-Mountaineer
8.06794274 Turk_Komotini
8.19360116 Turk_Drama

K15


Distance to: Thracian_23andMe
8.43422854 GR_Macedonia
8.46123513 Bulgarian_Thracian
9.64608211 Gagauz
10.74161592 GR_Peloponese
11.18378290 Bulgarian
11.63833321 Greek
11.91861383 Kosovo_Albanian
12.15750797 Macedonian_2
12.16527435 Greek_Thessaly
12.60790228 Romania_South

Distance to: Thracian_FTDNA
8.96673854 Gagauz
9.47038073 GR_Macedonia
9.47244425 Greek_Thessaly
10.90520518 Macedonian_2
11.16944493 Romania_South
11.22357842 GR_Peloponese
11.32010159 Albanian-North
11.46948560 Bulgarian
11.83003757 Kosovo_Albanian
12.15722008 Albanian-South

[Thracian]

double...

[Graham]

I made that English Midlands average from 10 local kits. Ideally I'd like to get 20 for it, as well as for English_North. Also make averages for Leinster, Connacht and Munster.

And you're not Paleo-Atlantid. Just Atlantid.

How'd you do that? looking through gedmatch matches? Wanted to create a Cumbrian average. :) Good work btw, would have taking a bit of time to do.

[17571imre]

Distance to:
mh
4.27019420 Hungarian_Szekely
5.09763481 Hungarian_Transylvania
5.29526203 Bulgarian_Dupnitsa
6.03942878 Romania_Crisana
6.24605125 Hungarian_Csango
6.81147561 Serb_Serbia_Vojvodina
6.90941387 Serb_B&H
6.94551876 Hungarian_Transdanubia
7.04879422 Croat_B&H_Bosnia
7.18329312 Serb_Croatia_Lika&Dalmatia
7.28828512 Serb_B&H_Krajina
7.39373383 Serb_Croatia
7.39839848 Serb_B&H_Northeast&Central
7.41390448 Hungarian
7.41393957 Croat_Croatia_Dalmatia
7.43150725 Serb
7.51917549 Croat_Croatia_Gorski_Kotar
7.58832880 Hungarian_Budapest
7.61372445 Croat_Croatia
7.61544483 Croat
7.73338218 Bosniak
7.77400798 Serb_Serbia_West&Central
7.77957582 Serb_Croatia_Kordun&Banija
7.81579810 Croat_Croatia_Lika-Senj
7.94294026 Serb_Serbia

Distance to:
mh
7.07067889 Hungarian
7.09283265 Szekely
7.11080076 Croat_Bosnia
7.24836533 Serbian
7.54840380 Austria-Burgenland
7.92615922 Austria-Tyrol
8.51328374 Slovenian
8.65650988 Montenegrin
8.85602620 South_Serbian
9.02227902 Serbian_Bosnia
9.29686506 Romania_Nw
9.30476760 Austrian
9.70695538 Bosnian
9.98079155 Italy_Trentino
10.08263358 Romania_Se
10.10778908 East_German
10.22590827 Romania_Sw
10.28030642 Romania_Ne
10.54018026 Bosniak
10.59030689 Kaykavian_Croatian
11.02212774 Romanian
11.04300231 Czech
11.24687068 German_Bavarian
11.41395637 Moldavian
11.45800157 Italy_Friuli

[J. Ketch]

How'd you do that? looking through gedmatch matches? Wanted to create a Cumbrian average. :) Good work btw, would have taking a bit of time to do.
Thanks, yes that's it. It is tiresome and time consuming, there's not many people with gedcoms that are purely from one British/Irish region, 4/5 are American. Once I can be bothered getting 20+ for both the North and Midlands I could split them into the smaller regions.

[PT Tagus]

K13


Distance to: Endovelicus
5.96894463 Spanish_Murcia
6.67463108 Spanish_Extremadura
7.00974322 Portuguese
7.45450870 Spanish_Valencia
7.79339464 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon
7.84293950 Spanish_Andalucia
8.01607136 Spanish_Cataluna
8.58325113 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha
8.91410119 Spanish_Galicia
9.91764085 Swiss-Italian
9.94840691 Swiss_Italian
10.41205551 Spanish_Aragon
10.97413322 Piedmont
11.03929798 Spanish_Cantabria
11.16180093 Lombardy
11.51819430 AostaValley
12.47203271 Veneto
12.53422515 Liguria
13.07117439 Trentino
13.60987142 Emilia
13.77735824 Friuli-VG
13.84677219 Southwest_French
13.88573009 French
15.09064280 Tuscany
16.44999392 Tuscan


K15


Distance to: Endovelicus
8.31677221 Portuguese
8.41678086 Italy_Lombardy
8.68691545 Spanish_Murcia
8.81015323 Italy_Piedmont
8.84253357 Spanish_Extremadura
9.13251882 Spanish_Galicia
9.61383898 Spanish_Cataluna
9.77872691 Italy_Aostavalley
9.82670850 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon
10.03808249 France-South
10.86859237 Italy_Veneto
11.31099907 Italy_Liguria
12.06557914 Italy_Trentino
12.50999201 Spanish_Valencia
12.84296695 French
12.93770072 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha
13.01444966 Spanish_Andalucia
13.02469193 Italy_Friuli
13.28668130 Italy_Tuscany
13.60573409 Italy_Emiliaromagna
13.76259060 Spanish_Cantabria
14.41774601 Spanish_Aragon
15.64522930 Austria-Tyrol
16.01574850 Tuscan
16.28978207 France_Corsica

[Chris596]

Eurogenes K13

Eurogenes K15



Some of my Turk/Turkish results on K13:

8.60879783 Turk_N-Macedonia
9.97280803 Turk_Razgrad
12.21296852 Turk_Dobrich
12.90852044 Turk_Drama
14.44913492 Turk_Kavala
14.46248596 Turk_Sliven-Alevi
14.89648616 Turk_Kardzhali-West
14.91499246 Turk_Stara-Zagora
15.68290471 Turk_Targovishte
15.75310128 Turk_Kardzhali-East
16.51886195 Turk_Thessaloniki
16.61123114 Turk_Kazanlik
17.10834299 Turk_Xanthi
17.17791897 Turk_Alexandroupoli
18.39921737 Turk_Kardzhali-Mountaineer
19.49573543 Turk_Komotini
19.54809454 Turk_Kardzhali-Alevi
20.05869388 Turk_Kardzhali-South-Plain

:)
etc. etc. - these are all left out because of my so close Balkan results which don't even reach distance 5 xd

[oszkar07]

K13
Distance to: Oszkar
3.72317069 Austrian
4.00468476 East_German
6.94743838 German_east
7.24774164 Hungarian_Transdanubia
7.88518682 Hungarian_Budapest
7.99675559 Croat_Croatia_Gorski_Kotar
8.01659529 Croat_Croatia_Zagorje
8.14288647 Czech
8.76476859 Hungarian_Northern
8.77407931 Hungarian
9.40887347 Croat_Croatia_Central
9.68033052 Slovenian
9.87765876 Slovak
10.10673542 Hungarian_Alfold
10.11881910 German_West
10.71997201 West_German
10.81012026 Swiss_German
11.34722874 North_German
11.39041264 Croat_Croatia
11.58932699 South_Dutch
11.69656787 Danish
11.72511834 Croat_Croatia_Slavonia
11.82216985 Croat
11.89489425 Hungarian_Transylvania
12.07142494 Sorb_Lusatia
12.09803715 Hungarian_Szekely
12.55726085 Swedish
12.73396246 Croat_B&H_Bosnia
13.11866609 Croat_Croatia_Lika-Senj
13.26481813 Swiss_French
13.69373579 Moldova_North
13.72289692 North-Swedish
13.86021284 South_Polish
13.96531619 Hungarian_Csango
13.98615387 Bulgarian_Dupnitsa
14.00978943 Croat_B&H_West_Bosnia
14.02118041 Bosniak_Bosnia_NE&Central
14.08795940 Croat_B&H
14.11689059 Croat_Croatia_Dalmatia
14.38329587 Serb_B&H_Northeast&Central
14.46252398 Croat_Croatia_Istria&Kvarner
14.53469298 English_North
14.68554051 Serb_B&H
14.89497902 English
15.09196806 Bosniak
15.24642253 Norwegian
15.25711965 North-Dutch
15.44145719 Southeast_English
15.45320040 Bosniak_Sarajevo
15.58036906 Serb_Serbia_Vojvodina
15.65292305 Croat_B&H_Herzegovina
15.66743438 Serb_Croatia_Kordun&Banija
15.67908798 Ukrainian_Lviv
15.84453849 English_Midlands
15.93585266 Romania_Crisana
16.02976606 Serb_B&H_Krajina
16.05962017 French
16.07854471 Orcadian
16.08246250 Serb_Croatia
16.22049938 Serb_Croatia_Lika&Dalmatia
16.24209654 Southwest_Finnish
16.42734610 Serb_Serbia_West&Central
16.51855321 Serb
16.73171539 Ukrainian
16.90292874 Romania_Maramures
17.15703354 Serb_Serbia
17.19915986 Polish
17.38788371 Irish
17.69550508 Southwest_English
17.90621401 Welsh
17.94982173 Romania_Moldavia_North
18.14608773 Romania_Moldavia_average
18.19430680 Cossacks_Kuban
18.26681691 Scottish
18.26956212 West_Scottish
18.46119444 Serb_Herzegovina
18.46162236 Romania_Moldavia_South
18.58092301 Bulgarian_Pleven
18.89914019 AostaValley
18.93638297 Montenegrin
19.13335830 Romania_Transylvania
19.19548384 Serb_Serbia_South&East
19.27841280 Moldova_average
19.31365579 Moldova_Centre
19.45531547 Bosniak_Sandzak
19.88851930 Romanian_Oltenia
19.91571490 Trentino
20.29257500 Bulgarian_Southwest
20.39106422 Friuli-VG
20.86003301 Macedonian
20.94996897 Russian_Smolensk
21.06896058 Southwest_Russian
21.13881264 Romanian_Wallachia
21.30674541 Belorussian
21.43535631 Bulgarian_Sofia
21.44843118 Finnish
21.51889170 Macedonian_Northwest
21.52817921 Estonian_Polish
21.58831628 Ukrainian_Belgorod
21.65402272 Swiss-Italian


K15
Distance to: Oszkar
6.87427087 East_German
6.88224527 Austrian
8.59164711 Austria-Burgenland
8.91605294 Kaykavian_Croatian
9.15397728 Czech
9.87696816 German_Bavarian
10.50876301 South_Dutch
10.61092362 North_German
10.93467174 Slovenian
11.15747731 Hungarian
12.04159873 Southwest_Finnish
12.44520791 Austria-Tyrol
12.61873607 Aland_Sweden
12.86237148 Sorb_Lusatia
13.02908957 Szekely
13.23820411 Slovak
13.40729652 Croatian
13.45271720 Belgium
14.73541991 French
14.75814351 West_German
14.90377469 Southeast_English
14.96598142 Dutch
15.12921346 Southwest_English
15.16603442 North_Swedish
15.19106316 Serbian
15.22010184 North_Dutch
15.29343650 England
15.35767520 Croat_Bosnia
15.36494061 South_Polish
15.39503167 Irish
15.43795323 English_North
15.50531844 North_Swedish
15.84412825 Finnish
16.01202048 English_Midlands
16.05960052 Serbian_Bosnia
16.08661245 Swedish
16.14846432 Polish
16.23223028 West_Scottish
16.42597942 Bosniak
16.52105626 Scotland
16.53297916 Welsh
16.62838537 Danish
16.65452491 Norway
16.69127105 Bosnian
16.73877534 Moldavian
16.76725678 Romania_Ne
17.22790469 Norwegian
17.31041016 Ukrainian_Lviv
17.44536328 Romania_Nw
17.61899827 Ukrainian

[Rgvgjhvv]

My results within a distance of 10. Greek-Italian-Jew results, like usual.

K13

Distance to: Markos
6.30301515 Central_Greek
6.39222966 Ashkenazi
6.99567009 East_Sicilian
7.45387148 Greek_Andros_Island
7.48801709 Apulia
7.64473675 Campania
7.71571124 Molise
7.80052242 GR_Peloponese
8.08631560 Greek_Eastern-Thrace
8.18286014 Abruzzo
8.46242282 Malta
8.64659471 Sicily
8.77211491 Calabria
8.87357312 Turk_Crete
8.98032293 Basilicata
9.40701866 Greek_Macedonia_Thrace
9.65690944 Greek_Thessaly

K15

Distance to: Markos
5.12013672 Greek_Crete
5.60528322 Italy_Apulia
5.72740779 Central_Greek
6.63895323 Italy_Campania
7.03487029 Italy_Abruzzo
7.16599173 GR_Peloponese
7.35277499 East_Sicilian
7.55322448 Italy_West_Sicily
7.60372935 Italy_Calabria
7.64769246 Italy_East_Sicily
7.85383983 Greek
7.90728778 Italy_Central_Sicily
8.88095153 Ashkenazi
9.41416368 GR_Macedonia
9.68370280 West_Sicilian

[Epirus DNA]

The Vahaduo calculators are really not accurate for Greeks. These K13/K15 Vadahuo give me some weird results that are very different from my family history as well as GedMatch etc. I am definitely not 40% Croatian / Bosniak LOL I have never seen this before. This is new for me on the updated calc.

Thanks for the tip, Kyp Snow! This makes much more sense and I think is pretty accurate. Still weird that Albanian Montenegro is the top distance to K13. It solved the Croat/Bosnia for K15.

Here is my results at 0.5x


K13 Eurogenes Vahaduo

Target: Epirus DNA
Distance: 1.1407% / 1.14073618 | ADC: 0.5x
36.8 Greek_Western-Macedonia
33.0 GR_Macedonia
15.6 GR_Peloponese
7.4 Greek_Western-Thrace
7.2 Greek_Eastern-Thrace

Distance to: Epirus DNA
3.43059762 Albanian_Montenegro
3.54024481 GR_Macedonia
3.72787473 GR_Peloponese
3.81950259 Greek_Thessaly
3.82102081 Turk_Thessaloniki
4.00082491 Greek_Western-Macedonia
4.27627174 Albanian_central_Albania
4.33038105 Greek_Thessaloniki
4.45806012 Albanian
4.52035397 Albanian_Albania
4.52994481 Greek_Eastern-Thrace
4.59853237 Torbeshi_North-Macedonia-East
4.73353904 Bulgarian_Thrace
4.82451712 Kosovo_Albanian
5.00384852 Vlach_Central-Macedonia
5.02502736 Albanian_south_Albania
5.08484021 Greek_Eastern-Macedonia
5.10322447 Turk_Alexandroupoli
5.13383872 Greek_Peloponnese
5.43737069 Greek_Central-Macedonia
5.50382594 Albanian_Kosovo
5.68760934 Albanian_north_Albania
5.70450699 Turk_Kazanlik
5.71925694 Torbeshi_North-Macedonia-Central
6.07953123 Greek_Northern-Thrace


K15 Eurogenes Vahaduo

Target: Epirus DNA
Distance: 3.3765% / 3.37650835 | ADC: 0.5x
73.6 Greek_Thessaly
13.6 GR_Macedonia
11.6 Gagauz
1.2 Tabassaran

Distance to: Epirus DNA
4.11899260 Greek_Thessaly
5.29449819 GR_Macedonia
5.51155151 Albanian-North
6.20755185 Albanian-South
7.05540219 Gagauz
7.26550669 GR_Peloponese
7.37673369 Macedonian_2
7.56193097 Albanian-Kosovo
8.21007917 Greek
8.32111237 Kosovo_Albanian
8.71295587 Albanian-Macedonia
9.88097161 Bulgarian
10.02722295 Central_Greek
10.50198553 Ashkenazi
10.54740726 Romania_South
10.69529803 Italy_Abruzzo
11.16275504 Bulgarian_Thracian
11.23808757 Macedonian
11.33361372 Italy_Apulia
11.34129622 Italy_Lazio
11.34847126 Italy_Marche
11.55605902 East_Sicilian
12.01581458 Greek_Crete
12.31006499 Romania_Se
12.52152147 Romanian

[Damião de Góis]

k13 updated


Distance to: Damião_de_Góis
2.63556446 Portuguese
3.54823900 Spanish_Extremadura
4.00403546 Spanish_Cataluna
4.01922878 Spanish_Murcia
4.23276505 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon
4.58912846 Spanish_Galicia
4.79649872 Spanish_Valencia
5.33152886 Spanish_Andalucia
5.59234298 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha
6.31288365 Swiss-Italian
7.00690374 AostaValley
7.24648880 Spanish_Cantabria
7.58702181 Swiss_Italian
8.08747798 Piedmont
8.81118607 Spanish_Aragon
9.39987766 Lombardy
9.40178175 Trentino
9.64332412 Veneto
9.72881288 Southwest_French
10.44419456 French
11.34684538 Friuli-VG
11.40169724 Liguria
12.20345853 Swiss_French
12.48046874 Emilia
14.08068180 Tuscany



K15 updated


Distance to: Damião_de_Góis
3.41880096 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon
3.91909428 Spanish_Murcia
3.98327754 Spanish_Cataluna
4.11186089 Spanish_Extremadura
4.83165603 Portuguese
5.53451895 Spanish_Valencia
5.87590844 Spanish_Andalucia
5.89671943 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha
6.23272011 Italy_Piedmont
6.95762172 France-South
7.12887789 Spanish_Cantabria
7.20704516 Spanish_Galicia
8.11212672 Spanish_Aragon
8.93935121 Southwest_French
9.43856451 Italy_Aostavalley
10.16731036 Italy_Lombardy
10.27387463 Italy_Veneto
10.42708972 Italy_Trentino
10.97698501 Italy_Friuli
11.38105004 Italy_Liguria
11.93220851 French
13.77575406 Austria-Tyrol
13.85366017 Italy_Tuscany
14.58402551 Italy_Emiliaromagna
15.64349386 German_Bavarian

[**JC**]

K15 Updated

Distance to: JC
5.59424704 Southwest_English
5.59620407 English_North
5.67065252 English_Midlands
6.19960483 England
6.20983897 Dutch
6.76513858 Welsh
6.99718515 North_Dutch
7.00491256 Southeast_English
7.37812984 South_Dutch
7.52301801 North_German
7.69714882 Belgium
7.85590860 Irish
7.97750588 Scotland
8.48670725 West_Scottish
8.50259372 Danish
8.72190919 West_German
8.72837327 Norway
8.96824398 Swedish
9.07180247 Norwegian
9.21647981 North_Swedish
9.37952024 German_Bavarian
9.50125781 Orcadian
10.84206161 West_Norwegian
11.51585429 French
11.69413956 East_German

Target: JC
Distance: 2.8553% / 2.85530772 | ADC: 0.25x
72.6 English_Midlands
13.6 Southwest_English
9.2 Lithuanian
3.8 Sardinian
0.6 Southwest_French
0.2 Karitiana


K13 updated

Distance to: JC
4.55707143 English
4.57731362 English_North
4.98243916 English_Midlands
5.21576457 German_West
5.48154175 Southeast_English
5.82644832 Orcadian
5.96010067 Danish
6.29703105 Welsh
6.38197462 Southwest_English
6.55949693 South_Dutch
6.64198013 North_German
6.92117042 Irish
6.97330625 North-Dutch
7.75477917 West_Scottish
7.86534805 Scottish
8.04965217 West_German
8.21831491 Norwegian
8.52602487 Swedish
11.16217721 Swiss_German
12.39484167 Austrian
12.43017297 East_German
12.65381761 French
14.20414376 Swiss_French
15.36445248 German_east
15.60553748 North-Swedish

Target: JC
Distance: 1.3653% / 1.36527001 | ADC: 0.25x
39.2 Welsh
19.0 Swedish
17.6 East_German
15.2 English_North
8.6 Southwest_French
0.4 Mayan

[Graham]

K13

https://i.ibb.co/80Sbrzj/image.png

K15

https://i.ibb.co/TkyZw35/image.png

[JamesBond007]

I’d say overall k13 is more accurate. Who needs g25 when you have a perfectly working calculator like this.



Right, G25 tends to throw in some Norwegian and Dutch stuff at me rather than British isles within the top results and that can't be right.

[JamesBond007]

...



Thanks, Graham ! I guess I'm not Scottish sorry for any confusion !

[Leto]

K13

[IMG]https://i.ibb.co/80Sbrzj/image.png

K15

[IMG]https://i.ibb.co/TkyZw35/image.png
You're so Western, your whiteness is shining through these results! :D

Can you please share your Dodecad K12b components?

[Leto]

https://i.ibb.co/LvS72SZ/image.png
Excuse me but I said components. No oracle needed.

[J. Ketch]

K13

Distance to: Creoda
2.31613903 West_Scottish
3.05762980 Irish
3.12019230 Scottish
3.17458659 Orcadian
3.71848087 North-Dutch
4.77682949 English_North
4.87370496 English
5.02555470 English_Midlands
5.04546331 Southwest_English
5.25994297 Southeast_English
5.53094929 Norwegian
6.72308709 Welsh
7.24511560 Danish
8.06740355 North_German
8.87363511 Swedish
9.76641695 German_West
11.79990254 South_Dutch
13.19798469 West_German
16.76869405 North-Swedish
17.32742624 Swiss_German
17.67723960 French
19.01615103 Austrian
19.09527952 East_German
20.66949443 Swiss_French
21.08048624 German_east

Target: Creoda
Distance: 2.0248% / 2.02478631
74.6 West_Scottish
22.4 North-Dutch
3.0 Norwegian

K15

Distance to: Creoda
4.74016877 West_Scottish
5.33497891 Scotland
5.56342520 Irish
5.65424619 England
5.78186821 Southeast_English
6.14153890 Welsh
6.30982567 Orcadian
6.96991392 English_Midlands
7.14110636 Southwest_English
7.15485150 Dutch
7.38597996 English_North
7.92010101 North_Dutch
9.44473398 North_German
9.51192410 Danish
10.54729823 Belgium
10.64175268 Norway
11.14629086 Swedish
11.17606371 Norwegian
11.30107517 West_Norwegian
11.57665755 South_Dutch
11.79518970 North_Swedish
14.23212563 German_Bavarian
14.33209336 West_German
15.12494628 North_Swedish
16.30059201 French

Target: Creoda
Distance: 4.2246% / 4.22457780
61.2 West_Scottish
31.0 Scotland
6.8 French_Basque
1.0 Mari

[Grace O'Malley]

K15

Target: Grace
Distance: 2.7629% / 2.76288358
52.8 Irish
25.8 West_Scottish
18.8 Danish
2.2 Chechen
0.2 Estonian
0.2 Karitiana

Distance to: Grace
3.43841533 Irish
3.56359369 West_Scottish
4.18270248 North_Dutch
4.85860062 Scotland
4.98057226 Dutch
5.13658447 England
5.30019811 English_North
5.38257373 Welsh
5.48894343 Orcadian
5.68003521 Southeast_English
5.89959321 North_German
5.98392012 Danish
6.01364282 English_Midlands
7.47078309 Southwest_English
7.89285753 Swedish
7.95506757 Norway
8.40683056 Norwegian
8.72043004 West_Norwegian
9.69024767 North_Swedish
9.74426498 Belgium
11.19828558 South_Dutch
12.49219356 West_German
12.66127166 North_Swedish
13.07521319 German_Bavarian
15.38981481 Aland_Swede

K13

Target: Grace
Distance: 1.7339% / 1.73387774
50.8 Norwegian
47.2 Scottish
2.0 Tabassaran

Distance to: Grace
3.13561796 North-Dutch
3.36795190 Irish
3.82745346 Norwegian
3.93558128 Scottish
4.10454626 West_Scottish
4.15441933 Orcadian
4.69176939 English_North
5.07089736 English
5.43862115 English_Midlands
5.93609299 North_German
5.96929644 Danish
6.82215508 Southeast_English
6.87663435 Southwest_English
6.94936688 Welsh
7.66868959 Swedish
8.38923715 German_West
11.47678091 South_Dutch
12.51677275 West_German
14.64530300 North-Swedish
16.64330196 Swiss_German
17.25885859 Austrian
17.37054115 East_German
17.99318204 French
19.05357447 German_east
19.96832993 Swiss_French

[Graham]

Excuse me but I said components. No oracle needed.

If a knew what you mean, I'd post it lol.

[Graham]

North East Scotland to Fife somehow shows up as more Anglo on the papers, but has a lack of Invasion in it's history with a more Pictish history and archaeology. I'd like to see an average of those folk on the oracle. Might be worth having a look to see if I can find any folk.

Argyll is what West Scottish is on the Oracle and they have a more common history with Ulster.

[Leto]

If a knew what you mean, I'd post it lol.
Dodecad K12b. You are one of the oldest TA members, I didn't expect you to misunderstand me.

[J. Ketch]

K15 updated PCA, including Peterski's French regional averages

https://i.postimg.cc/t44qStwx/K15-june-20.png

NW Euro magnified

https://i.postimg.cc/yx9NX1JY/K15-june-20nw.png

[Kaspias]

Some of my Turk/Turkish results on K13:

8.60879783 Turk_N-Macedonia
9.97280803 Turk_Razgrad
12.21296852 Turk_Dobrich
12.90852044 Turk_Drama
14.44913492 Turk_Kavala
14.46248596 Turk_Sliven-Alevi
14.89648616 Turk_Kardzhali-West
14.91499246 Turk_Stara-Zagora
15.68290471 Turk_Targovishte
15.75310128 Turk_Kardzhali-East
16.51886195 Turk_Thessaloniki
16.61123114 Turk_Kazanlik
17.10834299 Turk_Xanthi
17.17791897 Turk_Alexandroupoli
18.39921737 Turk_Kardzhali-Mountaineer
19.49573543 Turk_Komotini
19.54809454 Turk_Kardzhali-Alevi
20.05869388 Turk_Kardzhali-South-Plain

:)
etc. etc. - these are all left out because of my so close Balkan results which don't even reach distance 5 xd

I checked my distance for Hungarians and wanted to compare with Anatolian Turks:

16.65142655 Hungarian_Csango
18.12757270 Hungarian_Szekely
18.73865586 Hungarian_Transylvania
19.88900701 Turk_North_West
22.29033502 Hungarian_Alfold
22.77882445 Hungarian
23.56584653 Hungarian_Budapest
23.68891513 Turk_Central_West
23.74520192 Hungarian_Transdanubia
24.15758887 Turk_Anatolia
24.65010953 Turk_South
25.60184604 Hungarian_Northern
26.41131954 Turk_Central_East
28.18037970 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
28.42844174 Turkish_mixed

[InfamousAngel99]

Me (AncestryDNA Kit):
K13
3.24829186 German_West
3.64856136 South_Dutch
4.39482650 West_German
6.43194372 English
6.52433905 English_North
6.58772343 Southeast_English
6.86557354 North_German
7.01253877 English_Midlands
7.27879111 Danish
7.53684284 Swiss_German
8.30855583 Orcadian
8.63187118 Southwest_English
8.91573889 North-Dutch
9.09575725 Welsh
9.56209705 Austrian
9.56987983 Irish
10.15651023 Scottish
10.19302212 French
10.29223494 Swedish
10.31756754 West_Scottish
10.44940668 Norwegian
10.48611463 East_German
10.69729405 Swiss_French
14.22449296 AostaValley
14.39536036 German_east

K15
4.14453858 German_West
4.79136724 Danish
5.00214954 North_German
6.98138238 Swedish
7.03560943 English_North
7.12252764 South_Dutch
7.34002044 West_German
7.40123638 English
7.92890913 North-Dutch
8.05975806 Southeast_English
8.35229908 English_Midlands
8.45258540 East_German
8.48410867 Orcadian
8.50882483 Norwegian
8.55987734 Austrian
9.93457598 Irish
10.32322624 Southwest_English
10.33593731 Swiss_German
10.79079237 Welsh
10.80374935 West_Scottish
10.84734530 Scottish
11.27286122 German_east
12.52560577 North-Swedish
13.64649039 Swiss_French
13.87605491 French

My Dad
K13
4.11139879 South_Dutch
5.10774901 English_Midlands
5.11031310 Southeast_English
5.35000000 English
5.72411565 West_German
5.75348590 German_West
5.87254630 English_North
5.96912054 Southwest_English
6.54223204 Welsh
7.32622003 Orcadian
7.92181166 Scottish
8.00364917 Irish
8.37951073 West_Scottish
8.76681812 North_German
8.99828317 French
9.08522977 North-Dutch
9.13968271 Swiss_German
9.45823451 Danish
11.35412260 Norwegian
11.78459588 Swiss_French
12.76358492 Swedish
13.44714096 AostaValley
14.01499554 Austrian
15.26426546 East_German
16.85545609 Spanish_Cataluna

K15
3.46092473 Belgium
3.93506036 Southwest_English
5.04578042 South_Dutch
5.21291665 Southeast_English
5.75228650 England
6.47210939 Welsh
6.51849676 English_Midlands
7.00195687 English_North
7.19365693 German_Bavarian
7.28296643 Dutch
7.69138479 Irish
8.03183043 Scotland
8.09837021 French
8.21389676 West_Scottish
8.50809614 North_German
8.55046198 West_German
8.87966216 Orcadian
9.06031456 North_Dutch
11.79782183 Danish
11.96314758 Italy_Aostavalley
12.13797347 Austria-Tyrol
12.79521786 Norway
13.06954093 Norwegian
13.33521278 Swedish
13.48931058 France-South

My Mom
K13
4.14453858 German_West
4.79136724 Danish
5.00214954 North_German
6.98138238 Swedish
7.03560943 English_North
7.12252764 South_Dutch
7.34002044 West_German
7.40123638 English
7.92890913 North-Dutch
8.05975806 Southeast_English
8.35229908 English_Midlands
8.45258540 East_German
8.48410867 Orcadian
8.50882483 Norwegian
8.55987734 Austrian
9.93457598 Irish
10.32322624 Southwest_English
10.33593731 Swiss_German
10.79079237 Welsh
10.80374935 West_Scottish
10.84734530 Scottish
11.27286122 German_east
12.52560577 North-Swedish
13.64649039 Swiss_French
13.87605491 French

K15
5.70796811 South_Dutch
5.80250808 North_German
7.42593428 Southeast_English
7.57645036 Belgium
7.59353014 German_Bavarian
7.60585958 Southwest_English
7.67230083 England
7.69751908 Dutch
8.14805498 English_North
8.40074997 English_Midlands
8.60060463 Irish
8.66897341 North_Dutch
8.70990815 Scotland
8.88068691 Welsh
9.02284323 West_Scottish
9.93472697 Austria-Burgenland
9.96808908 North_Swedish
9.98722184 East_German
10.01324123 West_German
10.37060268 Danish
10.57532505 Swedish
10.59035410 Norway
11.14479699 Norwegian
11.26156295 Orcadian
11.58770038 French

[Graham]

Looking through people in Wales, Ireland & Scotland these folk jumped out from Donegal/Mayo. There must be folk who are in the into the 60s with North Atlantic.

https://i.ibb.co/grBnfJW/image.pnghttps://i.ibb.co/TbJPgZV/image.png

[Leto]

Looking through people in Wales, Ireland & Scotland these folk jumped out from Donegal/Mayo. There must be folk who are in the into the 60s with North Atlantic.

Please share your Dodecad K12b components.

[Rafael Passoni]

K13:

Distance to: Rafael
3.72603006 IT_Liguria
3.85334919 IT_Emilia
3.99923743 IT_Tuscan
4.77634798 France_Corsica
5.33069414 IT_Lombardy
6.31372315 IT_Romagna
6.47993827 Italian
6.64428326 IT_Umbria
7.38589873 IT_Lazio
7.55567998 IT_Piedmont
7.71029831 IT_Marche
8.20597953 IT_Veneto
9.54091715 France_Provence
10.34835736 IT_Friuli-VG
10.67187425 Swiss-Italian2
10.84294702 Swiss_Italian
11.31504750 IT_Trentino
11.99291874 Greek_Western-Thrace
12.67664782 Spanish_Extremadura
13.21610381 Portuguese
13.30163148 Torbesh_average
13.32591460 Albanian_Tosk
13.41165165 Spanish_Andalucia
13.41910951 Albanian
13.61026084 Albanian_Gheg

K15:
Distance to: Rafael
4.47253843 Italy_Tuscany
4.64706359 Italy_Liguria
5.68950789 Italy_Emiliaromagna
5.77760331 Tuscan
6.58379070 France_Corsica
6.89282961 Italy_Lombardy
8.16096195 Italy_Marche
8.72697542 Italy_Lazio
9.26107985 Italy_Veneto
9.40456272 French_Provence
9.69445718 Italy_Piedmont
9.95268306 Italy_Friuli
12.00265387 Italy_Trentino
12.03036575 Albanian-Kosovo
12.45533219 Spanish_Extremadura
12.83328095 Albanian-North
12.88180414 Kosovo_Albanian
12.90677342 Portuguese
12.99931537 Albanian-South
13.01275528 Spanish_Murcia
13.18601911 Albanian-Macedonia
13.20182563 Spanish_Andalucia
13.37114804 West_Sicilian
14.03454310 Spanish_Galicia
14.10696636 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon

[alexmegas777]

K13
Distance to: alexmegas(Romanian)
7.31598934 IT_Friuli-VG
8.24618093 IT_Trentino
8.39999405 Montenegrin
8.46743172 Romania_Crisana
8.60075578 Bosniak_Sandzak
8.84246006 IT_Veneto
8.84975706 Swiss_French
9.09315677 Romania_Transylvania
9.33323095 Romania_Oltenia
9.78777809 Bulgaria_Southwestern
9.80760929 Romania_Moldavia_South
9.94209736 Romania_average
10.12111654 Romania_Banat
10.17529852 France_Provence
10.27574328 IT_Piedmont
10.29870866 Székely
10.30234925 Hungarian_Transylvania
10.44129302 Romania_Wallachia
10.62978833 Romania_Dobruja
10.66086769 Romania_Maramures
10.74152224 Bulgaria_Northeastern
10.89201542 Romania_Muntenia
10.90917962 Serb_south
10.91970238 Moldova_South
10.92299355 Macednia_north
K15
Distance to: alexmegas(Romanian)
9.80170903 Italy_Friuli
10.44214418 Szekely
10.74044692 Romanian
11.15203569 Italy_Trentino
11.29095656 South_Serbian
11.48750190 Romania_Sw
12.01921192 Macedonian
12.10631653 Romania_South
12.14616812 Italy_Veneto
12.14697082 Serbian
12.29918779 Montenegrin
12.32249569 Italy_Piedmont
12.40909568 Kosovo_Albanian
12.83118467 Austria-Tyrol
12.97784266 Romania_Ne
13.09772881 Bulgarian
13.15978723 French_Provence
13.49469525 Austrian
13.68071270 Albanian-Kosovo
13.86352408 Macedonian_2
13.92841341 Bosniak
13.96067692 Albanian-Macedonia
13.99812130 Italy_Liguria
14.04939145 Romania_Nw
14.63712230 Bosnian

[Geni_kameni]

K15
Distance to: GeniKameni
5.59193169 North_EastBalkans:Romania_Sw
5.64236652 North_EastBalkans:Romania_South
5.66193430 South_EastBalkans:Bulgarian
5.75870876 Albania_NorthGreek_&_Macedonia:Macedonian
5.79687847 North_EastBalkans:Romania_Se
6.41867079 South_WestBalkans:Montenegrin
6.86767792 North_EastBalkans:Gagauz
7.32858104 Central_Balkans:South_Serbian
7.48958610 Albania_NorthGreek_&_Macedonia:Macedonian_2
7.58429957 North_EastBalkans:Romania_Nw
9.12898680 North_EastBalkans:Romania_Ne
9.26607806 North_WestBalkans:Bosnian
9.72504499 Central_Balkans:Serbian
9.86037018 North_WestBalkans:Bosniak
10.34890815 Albania_NorthGreek_&_Macedonia:Albanian-Kosovo
11.79729206 Albania_NorthGreek_&_Macedonia:Albanian-North
12.00568615 Albania_NorthGreek_&_Macedonia:Albanian-Macedonia
12.09382487 Albania_NorthGreek_&_Macedonia:Greek_Thessaly
12.28244863 Albania_NorthGreek_&_Macedonia:GR_Macedonia
12.41940820 North_EastBalkans:Moldavian
13.55099996 Albania_NorthGreek_&_Macedonia:Albanian-South
13.69629147 South_EastBalkans:Bulgarian_Thracian
14.31293471 North_WestBalkans:Italy_Friuli
15.00853466 Peloponese_&_CentralGreek:GR_Peloponese
15.16846070 East_CentralEurope:Hungarian

[Eagle-i]

***

[Geni_kameni]

Distance to: GeniKameni
0.01173371 Romanian_Wallachia_simulated
0.01174618 Romanian_Dobruja_simulated
0.01198245 Romanian_Muntenia_simulated
0.01312908 Moldovan_South_simulated
0.01351151 Bulgarian_Southwestern_simulated
0.01377272 Bulgarian_simulated
0.01458229 Bulgarian_Northcentral_simulated
0.01528321 Serb_South_simulated
0.01624795 Romanian_South-Moldavia_simulated
0.01631295 Romanian_simulated
0.01645199 Serb_simulated
0.01681886 Bulgarian_Southcentral_simulated
0.01681923 North_Macedonian_North_simulated
0.01693287 Romanian_Transylvania_simulated
0.01802889 Bulgarian_Northwestern_simulated
0.01804181 Romanian_Crisana_simulated
0.01807691 Romanian_Banat_simulated
0.01849292 Serb_Central_simulated
0.01885970 Pomak_Bulgaria_simulated
0.02012787 Romanian_Maramures_simulated
0.02096633 North_Macedonian_East_simulated
0.02100181 Serb_Croatia_simulated
0.02103455 Bosniak_Southeast_simulated
0.02165987 Romanian_Oltenia_simulated
0.02179293 Serb_Montenegro_simulated

[Geni_kameni]

i got them wrong
K13
Distance to: GeniKameni
11.03580989 Bosniak_Sandžak
11.38916590 Romanian_Centre
11.57754724 Romanian
11.66353720 Montenegrin
11.77987691 Romanian_South
12.29298580 Bulgarian_Western
12.51133886 Csángó-Ceangău
12.68535376 Serb
12.72409132 Hungarian_Transylvania
12.93167429 Bulgarian_Central
12.97966486 North_Macedonian
13.20912185 Bulgarian_Eastern
13.57526059 Romanian_North
13.74962909 Pomak_Bulgaria
13.88714874 Austrian_Tyrol
13.93160077 Moldovan_Central
14.13591879 Gagauz_Moldova
14.41638651 Croat_Southern
14.51650096 Bosniak
14.60188686 Swiss_French
14.62034199 Moldovan_South
14.72028787 Austrian_Lower_Austria
14.81382800 Turkish_Deliorman
15.26597196 Croat
15.40301918 Pomak_Greece

Target: GeniKameni
Distance: 202.1160% / 2.02115952
29.6 Lemko_Poland
26.4 Georgian_Imereti
25.0 Basque_France
10.0 Latvian
5.4 Lithuanian_Žemaitija
3.6 Sardinian

K15
Distance to: GeniKameni
5.59193169 Romania_Sw
5.64236652 Romania_South
5.66193430 Bulgarian
5.75940969 Macedonian
5.79687847 Romania_Se
6.41426535 Montenegrin
6.86767792 Gagauz
7.32858104 South_Serbian
7.47760657 Romanian
7.48958610 Macedonian_2
7.58429957 Romania_Nw
9.12898680 Romania_Ne
9.25964902 Bosnian
9.36497030 Serbian_Bosnia
9.72504499 Serbian
9.86037018 Bosniak
10.34890815 Albanian-Kosovo
11.49072670 Kosovo_Albanian
11.79729206 Albanian-North
11.98344587 Szekely
12.00568615 Albanian-Macedonia
12.09382487 Greek_Thessaly
12.21182368 Croat_Bosnia
12.28239797 Greek_Macedonia
12.41940820 Moldavian

Target: GeniKameni
Distance: 334.7424% / 3.34742443
46.6 Croat_Bosnia
20.4 Cypriot
15.6 Latvian
13.0 Albanian-North
4.4 Sardinian