My DNA results Moroccan Arab

[Roose]

Hello all, I got my DNA results yesterday and wanted to hear your thoughts about my results. I am Moroccan Arab on both sides, my father's side is from a city called Meknes, and my mother's side is from an Arab village, close to a city called Safi. My both families are descendants from Arab tribes who settled in the Maghreb.

My ancestry composition:
https://i.ibb.co/vcHZSsc/anc1.jpg

https://i.ibb.co/ZKpGF9J/anc2.jpg

My maternal haplogroup is H1:
https://i.ibb.co/Hn0LPLm/anc3.jpg

But I uploaded my DNA file to a website to see if I belong to any haplogroup subclades and I belong to maternal haplogroup H1v:
https://i.ibb.co/4tpN0QS/anc4.jpg

[Elias.99]

Upload to GEDmatch and do dodecadk12b

[gixajo]

Nice results, congratulations.

[Synapsid]

Nice results, congratulations.

She's not really Arab

[Rocinante]

Nice! Have you tried gedmatch?

[Gaditanian]

She's not really Arab

Is called Pan-Arabism

Northafricans thinking that they are arabs.

[Rocinante]

Is called Pan-Arabism

Northafricans thinking that they are arabs.

Bro, when are you going to get your G25 coords?

[Nassbean]

She's not really Arab

In our culture if your paternal tribe is arab then you're arab (genetic tests are recent and are meaningless in our cultural context)

[Bender1999]

In our culture if your paternal tribe is arab then you're arab (genetic tests are recent and are meaningless in our cultural context)

I know many morrocan arabs with partially or heavily mixed berber ancestry but many say arabian heritage is more important so they dont really care about the berber part of their origin.

[Nassbean]

I know many morrocan arabs with partially or heavily mixed berber ancestry but many say arabian heritage is more important so they dont really care about the berber part of their origin.

that's false there is no moroccan with more arab admixture. They just don't know what they are talking about.

[Bender1999]

that's false there is no moroccan with more arab admixture. They just don't know what they are talking about.

Really? The morrocan arabs who say that dont like to be described as berber. Also those ones with berber ancestors. Are there gebetic differences between berbers and arabs?

[Kyp]

Really? The morrocan arabs who say that dont like to be described as berber. Also those ones with berber ancestors. Are there gebetic differences between berbers and arabs?

Well Turks don't want to be called Anatolians either etc...
Arab = means arab speaking, otherwise whole arab world is not arab except a few groups.
But I agree that most of North african DNA is native


On topic: congrats. Upload to Gedmatch for another view on the results

[Nassbean]

Really? The morrocan arabs who say that dont like to be described as berber. Also those ones with berber ancestors. Are there gebetic differences between berbers and arabs?

many studies showed that there is no ethnic arabs in Morocco (and I've yet to see a moroccan scoring more than 30% arab admixture let alone 50 or 60) here an example :


North African populations are also ethnically complex, and it is common to differentiate between Arab and Berber (Amazigh) groups based on cultural practices, such as language. Although historically and sociologically this consideration is assumed, no genetic differences have been reported between Arabs and Berbers when analyzing individual genetic markers (Bosch et al. 1997,, 2001; Plaza et al. 2003; Arredi et al. 2004; Coudray et al. 2009; Fadhlaoui-Zid et al. 2011b; Fadhlaoui-Zid et al. 2013; Bekada et al. 2015).However, the present analysis of additional Berber samples reinforces the idea of no strong genetic distinction between Arabs and most Berber groups.

https://academic.oup.com/mbe/article/34/2/318/2680801#58231020

so from a genetic point of view north africans are all the same (imazighen/berbers) distinct from middle easterners such as gulf arabs or levantines. But culturally if a moroccan wants to identify as an arab he has all the rights to do so

[Bender1999]

many studies showed that there is no ethnic arabs in Morocco (and I've yet to see a moroccan scoring more than 30% arab admixture let alone 50 or 60) here an example :



https://academic.oup.com/mbe/article/34/2/318/2680801#58231020

so from a genetic point of view north africans are all the same (imazighen/berbers) distinct from middle easterners such as gulf arabs or levantines. But culturally if a moroccan wants to identify as an arab he has all the rights to do so

Ah ok, i thought arabs have visible arab genetic input. A new information for me, thanks.

[dark-mysterio]

Ah ok, i thought arabs have visible arab genetic input. A new information for me, thanks.

yes according to study posted by nassbean (im not an expert at all concerning dna test study) although when it's come to non-dna thing like history some historian say otherwise

[gixajo]

She's not really Arab

I know it, she is a Moroccan with more Arab admixture than usually have Northafricans. A Moroccan-Arab called herself.

[gixajo]

many studies showed that there is no ethnic arabs in Morocco (and I've yet to see a moroccan scoring more than 30% arab admixture let alone 50 or 60) here an example :



https://academic.oup.com/mbe/article/34/2/318/2680801#58231020

so from a genetic point of view north africans are all the same (imazighen/berbers) distinct from middle easterners such as gulf arabs or levantines. But culturally if a moroccan wants to identify as an arab he has all the rights to do so

Among Moroccans in TA this girl is who most score in Arabian till now?

[Nassbean]

Among Moroccans in TA this girl is who most score in Arabian till now?

Yes

[dark-mysterio]

bump

[walid]

In our culture if your paternal tribe is arab then you're arab (genetic tests are recent and are meaningless in our cultural context)

yes but actually there is many guys who start describe themselves as berbers even they are from "arab" tribe after doing dna test and thats a good thing

[Roose]

Upload to GEDmatch and do dodecadk12b

Here is my dodecad k12b results:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Southwest_Asian 26.71
2 Northwest_African 26.42
3 Atlantic_Med 14.03
4 Caucasus 11.89
5 Sub_Saharan 10.49
6 East_African 7.68
7 Gedrosia 1.31
8 South_Asian 0.73
9 North_European 0.55
10 Southeast_Asian 0.19

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Algerian (Dodecad) 15.04
2 Moroccans (Behar) 21.6
3 Egyptans (Behar) 24.01
4 Moroccan (Dodecad) 24.45
5 Yemenese (Behar) 29.31
6 Bedouin (HGDP) 32.78
7 Palestinian (HGDP) 32.89
8 Morocco_Jews (Behar) 32.92
9 Jordanians (Behar) 33.02
10 Syrians (Behar) 36.41
11 Lebanese (Behar) 36.69
12 Sephardic_Jews (Behar) 37.2
13 Ashkenazi (Dodecad) 39.76
14 Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) 40.54
15 Sicilian (Dodecad) 40.65
16 S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) 41.3
17 Samaritians (Behar) 41.8
18 Yemen_Jews (Behar) 42
19 Druze (HGDP) 43.07
20 C_Italian (Dodecad) 44.26

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 57.8% Moroccans (Behar) + 42.2% Yemenese (Behar) @ 4.67
2 54.9% Moroccan (Dodecad) + 45.1% Yemenese (Behar) @ 6.96
3 68.2% Algerian (Dodecad) + 31.8% Yemenese (Behar) @ 7.13
4 78.6% Algerian (Dodecad) + 21.4% Saudis (Behar) @ 7.17
5 61.1% Moroccans (Behar) + 38.9% Bedouin (HGDP) @ 7.33
6 67.4% Moroccans (Behar) + 32.6% Yemen_Jews (Behar) @ 8.3
7 76.8% Algerian (Dodecad) + 23.2% Yemen_Jews (Behar) @ 8.47
8 53.1% Moroccans (Behar) + 46.9% Egyptans (Behar) @ 8.51
9 72% Algerian (Dodecad) + 28% Bedouin (HGDP) @ 8.71
10 71% Moroccans (Behar) + 29% Saudis (Behar) @ 9
11 65.6% Algerian (Dodecad) + 34.4% Egyptans (Behar) @ 9.68
12 62.2% Moroccans (Behar) + 37.8% Palestinian (HGDP) @ 10.43
13 58.4% Moroccan (Dodecad) + 41.6% Bedouin (HGDP) @ 10.43
14 50.6% Egyptans (Behar) + 49.4% Moroccan (Dodecad) @ 10.8
15 62.6% Moroccans (Behar) + 37.4% Jordanians (Behar) @ 11.03
16 65.2% Moroccans (Behar) + 34.8% Syrians (Behar) @ 11.14
17 65.1% Moroccan (Dodecad) + 34.9% Yemen_Jews (Behar) @ 11.23
18 68.8% Moroccan (Dodecad) + 31.2% Saudis (Behar) @ 11.33
19 76% Algerian (Dodecad) + 24% Palestinian (HGDP) @ 11.45
20 76.9% Algerian (Dodecad) + 23.1% Jordanians (Behar) @ 11.83



Nice! Have you tried gedmatch?

Thanks, yes I uploaded it today.

[Nassbean]

Here is my dodecad k12b results:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Southwest_Asian 26.71
2 Northwest_African 26.42
3 Atlantic_Med 14.03
4 Caucasus 11.89
5 Sub_Saharan 10.49
6 East_African 7.68
7 Gedrosia 1.31
8 South_Asian 0.73
9 North_European 0.55
10 Southeast_Asian 0.19

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Algerian (Dodecad) 15.04
2 Moroccans (Behar) 21.6
3 Egyptans (Behar) 24.01
4 Moroccan (Dodecad) 24.45
5 Yemenese (Behar) 29.31
6 Bedouin (HGDP) 32.78
7 Palestinian (HGDP) 32.89
8 Morocco_Jews (Behar) 32.92
9 Jordanians (Behar) 33.02
10 Syrians (Behar) 36.41
11 Lebanese (Behar) 36.69
12 Sephardic_Jews (Behar) 37.2
13 Ashkenazi (Dodecad) 39.76
14 Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) 40.54
15 Sicilian (Dodecad) 40.65
16 S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) 41.3
17 Samaritians (Behar) 41.8
18 Yemen_Jews (Behar) 42
19 Druze (HGDP) 43.07
20 C_Italian (Dodecad) 44.26

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 57.8% Moroccans (Behar) + 42.2% Yemenese (Behar) @ 4.67
2 54.9% Moroccan (Dodecad) + 45.1% Yemenese (Behar) @ 6.96
3 68.2% Algerian (Dodecad) + 31.8% Yemenese (Behar) @ 7.13
4 78.6% Algerian (Dodecad) + 21.4% Saudis (Behar) @ 7.17
5 61.1% Moroccans (Behar) + 38.9% Bedouin (HGDP) @ 7.33
6 67.4% Moroccans (Behar) + 32.6% Yemen_Jews (Behar) @ 8.3
7 76.8% Algerian (Dodecad) + 23.2% Yemen_Jews (Behar) @ 8.47
8 53.1% Moroccans (Behar) + 46.9% Egyptans (Behar) @ 8.51
9 72% Algerian (Dodecad) + 28% Bedouin (HGDP) @ 8.71
10 71% Moroccans (Behar) + 29% Saudis (Behar) @ 9
11 65.6% Algerian (Dodecad) + 34.4% Egyptans (Behar) @ 9.68
12 62.2% Moroccans (Behar) + 37.8% Palestinian (HGDP) @ 10.43
13 58.4% Moroccan (Dodecad) + 41.6% Bedouin (HGDP) @ 10.43
14 50.6% Egyptans (Behar) + 49.4% Moroccan (Dodecad) @ 10.8
15 62.6% Moroccans (Behar) + 37.4% Jordanians (Behar) @ 11.03
16 65.2% Moroccans (Behar) + 34.8% Syrians (Behar) @ 11.14
17 65.1% Moroccan (Dodecad) + 34.9% Yemen_Jews (Behar) @ 11.23
18 68.8% Moroccan (Dodecad) + 31.2% Saudis (Behar) @ 11.33
19 76% Algerian (Dodecad) + 24% Palestinian (HGDP) @ 11.45
20 76.9% Algerian (Dodecad) + 23.1% Jordanians (Behar) @ 11.83




Thanks, yes I uploaded it today.

can you show your K15, K13 and K36 pls

[Roose]

can you show your K15, K13 and K36 pls

I guess you mean eurogenes because i found those k- descriptions only there...

eurogenes k13:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 28.06
2 Red_Sea 26.4
3 West_Med 14.96
4 Sub-Saharan 14.12
5 Northeast_African 8.9
6 North_Atlantic 7.56

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Algerian 13.13
2 Tunisian 13.44
3 Mozabite_Berber 13.67
4 Moroccan 14.45
5 Egyptian 17.57
6 Bedouin 21.69
7 Libyan_Jewish 25.74
8 Saudi 26.07
9 Tunisian_Jewish 26.69
10 Jordanian 26.73
11 Palestinian 27.06
12 Algerian_Jewish 27.86
13 Syrian 28.7
14 Sephardic_Jewish 28.87
15 Yemenite_Jewish 29.18
16 Italian_Jewish 30.03
17 Ashkenazi 30.48
18 Samaritan 30.86
19 East_Sicilian 31.07
20 Lebanese_Muslim 31.67

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 71.3% Mozabite_Berber + 28.7% Saudi @ 9.55
2 74.8% Algerian + 25.2% Saudi @ 10.37
3 76.7% Mozabite_Berber + 23.3% Yemenite_Jewish @ 10.93
4 71.8% Moroccan + 28.2% Saudi @ 11.1
5 75.8% Tunisian + 24.2% Saudi @ 11.15
6 81.3% Algerian + 18.7% Yemenite_Jewish @ 11.61
7 65.4% Mozabite_Berber + 34.6% Egyptian @ 11.83
8 72.8% Mozabite_Berber + 27.2% Bedouin @ 11.88
9 77% Moroccan + 23% Yemenite_Jewish @ 12.07
10 71.8% Algerian + 28.2% Egyptian @ 12.15
11 78.4% Algerian + 21.6% Bedouin @ 12.16
12 95.9% Algerian + 4.1% Yoruban @ 12.42
13 95.6% Algerian + 4.4% Mandenka @ 12.43
14 83.8% Tunisian + 16.2% Yemenite_Jewish @ 12.43
15 95.7% Algerian + 4.3% Bantu_S.W. @ 12.51
16 63% Moroccan + 37% Egyptian @ 12.51
17 95.7% Algerian + 4.3% Bantu_S.E. @ 12.52
18 90% Tunisian + 10% Ethiopian_Amhara @ 12.54
19 95.7% Algerian + 4.3% Biaka_Pygmy @ 12.59
20 95.5% Algerian + 4.5% Bantu_N.E. @ 12.62


eurogenes k15:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Red_Sea 26.56
2 East_Med 24.95
3 West_Med 14.39
4 Sub-Saharan 13.53
5 Northeast_African 10.35
6 Atlantic 10.21

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Tunisian 12.97
2 Algerian 13.59
3 Mozabite_Berber 13.9
4 Moroccan 14.56
5 Egyptian 19.4
6 Bedouin 23.26
7 Libyan_Jewish 27.26
8 Tunisian_Jewish 27.42
9 Jordanian 27.75
10 Algerian_Jewish 27.82
11 Saudi 28.24
12 Sephardic_Jewish 28.64
13 Palestinian 28.95
14 Italian_Jewish 29.51
15 Ashkenazi 29.93
16 Syrian 30.06
17 East_Sicilian 31.01
18 West_Sicilian 31.11
19 Samaritan 32.19
20 South_Italian 32.41

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 72.9% Mozabite_Berber + 27.1% Saudi @ 9.83
2 80.4% Tunisian + 19.6% Saudi @ 11.34
3 79.2% Mozabite_Berber + 20.8% Yemenite_Jewish @ 11.37
4 78.1% Algerian + 21.9% Saudi @ 11.51
5 74.5% Moroccan + 25.5% Saudi @ 11.58
6 73.7% Mozabite_Berber + 26.3% Bedouin @ 11.93
7 68.9% Mozabite_Berber + 31.1% Egyptian @ 12.1
8 89.2% Tunisian + 10.8% Yemenite_Jewish @ 12.45
9 92.6% Tunisian + 7.4% Ethiopian_Amhara @ 12.46
10 96.6% Tunisian + 3.4% Mandenka @ 12.49
11 96.8% Tunisian + 3.2% Yoruban @ 12.49
12 92.7% Tunisian + 7.3% Ethiopian_Tigray @ 12.51
13 96.5% Tunisian + 3.5% Bantu_S.W. @ 12.52
14 96.5% Tunisian + 3.5% Bantu_S.E. @ 12.52
15 96.4% Tunisian + 3.6% Biaka_Pygmy @ 12.53
16 96.1% Tunisian + 3.9% Bantu_N.E. @ 12.55
17 96.2% Tunisian + 3.8% Luhya @ 12.56
18 96.2% Tunisian + 3.8% Mbuti_Pygmy @ 12.59
19 94.7% Tunisian + 5.3% Somali @ 12.59
20 85.8% Algerian + 14.2% Yemenite_Jewish @ 12.65


eurogenes k36:

Population
Amerindian -
Arabian 19.94 Pct
Armenian -
Basque 3.70 Pct
Central_African -
Central_Euro -
East_African -
East_Asian -
East_Balkan -
East_Central_Asian -
East_Central_Euro -
East_Med 3.17 Pct
Eastern_Euro -
Fennoscandian -
French -
Iberian 1.06 Pct
Indo-Chinese -
Italian 6.42 Pct
Malayan -
Near_Eastern 12.74 Pct
North_African 27.65 Pct
North_Atlantic -
North_Caucasian -
North_Sea -
Northeast_African 13.91 Pct
Oceanian -
Omotic -
Pygmy -
Siberian -
South_Asian -
South_Central_Asian -
South_Chinese -
Volga-Ural -
West_African 8.12 Pct
West_Caucasian -
West_Med 3.29 Pct

[Leto]

Here is my dodecad k12b results:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Southwest_Asian 26.71
2 Northwest_African 26.42
3 Atlantic_Med 14.03
4 Caucasus 11.89
5 Sub_Saharan 10.49
6 East_African 7.68
7 Gedrosia 1.31
8 South_Asian 0.73
9 North_European 0.55
10 Southeast_Asian 0.19

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Algerian (Dodecad) 15.04
2 Moroccans (Behar) 21.6
3 Egyptans (Behar) 24.01
4 Moroccan (Dodecad) 24.45
5 Yemenese (Behar) 29.31
6 Bedouin (HGDP) 32.78
7 Palestinian (HGDP) 32.89
8 Morocco_Jews (Behar) 32.92
9 Jordanians (Behar) 33.02
10 Syrians (Behar) 36.41
11 Lebanese (Behar) 36.69
12 Sephardic_Jews (Behar) 37.2
13 Ashkenazi (Dodecad) 39.76
14 Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) 40.54
15 Sicilian (Dodecad) 40.65
16 S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) 41.3
17 Samaritians (Behar) 41.8
18 Yemen_Jews (Behar) 42
19 Druze (HGDP) 43.07
20 C_Italian (Dodecad) 44.26

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 57.8% Moroccans (Behar) + 42.2% Yemenese (Behar) @ 4.67
2 54.9% Moroccan (Dodecad) + 45.1% Yemenese (Behar) @ 6.96
3 68.2% Algerian (Dodecad) + 31.8% Yemenese (Behar) @ 7.13
4 78.6% Algerian (Dodecad) + 21.4% Saudis (Behar) @ 7.17
5 61.1% Moroccans (Behar) + 38.9% Bedouin (HGDP) @ 7.33
6 67.4% Moroccans (Behar) + 32.6% Yemen_Jews (Behar) @ 8.3
7 76.8% Algerian (Dodecad) + 23.2% Yemen_Jews (Behar) @ 8.47
8 53.1% Moroccans (Behar) + 46.9% Egyptans (Behar) @ 8.51
9 72% Algerian (Dodecad) + 28% Bedouin (HGDP) @ 8.71
10 71% Moroccans (Behar) + 29% Saudis (Behar) @ 9
11 65.6% Algerian (Dodecad) + 34.4% Egyptans (Behar) @ 9.68
12 62.2% Moroccans (Behar) + 37.8% Palestinian (HGDP) @ 10.43
13 58.4% Moroccan (Dodecad) + 41.6% Bedouin (HGDP) @ 10.43
14 50.6% Egyptans (Behar) + 49.4% Moroccan (Dodecad) @ 10.8
15 62.6% Moroccans (Behar) + 37.4% Jordanians (Behar) @ 11.03
16 65.2% Moroccans (Behar) + 34.8% Syrians (Behar) @ 11.14
17 65.1% Moroccan (Dodecad) + 34.9% Yemen_Jews (Behar) @ 11.23
18 68.8% Moroccan (Dodecad) + 31.2% Saudis (Behar) @ 11.33
19 76% Algerian (Dodecad) + 24% Palestinian (HGDP) @ 11.45
20 76.9% Algerian (Dodecad) + 23.1% Jordanians (Behar) @ 11.83

You do seem to have a lot of Arabian blood

Target: Roose
Distance: 2.5520% / 2.55196674 | ADC: 0.25x
55.4 Algerian
16.0 Saudis
14.2 Moroccans
9.0 Yemenese
4.2 LWK30
1.2 Ethiopians

No idea what LWK stands for.

[Daos777]

Do a lot of North Africans score around 8 percent North Atlantic?

[Roose]

She's not really Arab


Is called Pan-Arabism

Northafricans thinking that they are arabs.

My family can trace back ancestry to the Arabian Peninsula including Yemen. Its also in our family traditions. Why would I make it up.. I know I have some Berber ancestry as well. People mixed with each other. But nobody in my family speaks a Berber language. They only speak Arabic. And we were raised as Arabs, in culture, all, etc. Thats what I all know.

[Synapsid]

My family can trace back ancestry to the Arabian Peninsula including Yemen. Its also in our family traditions. Why would I make it up.. I know I have some Berber ancestry as well. People mixed with each other. But nobody in my family speaks a Berber language. They only speak Arabic. And we were raised as Arabs, in culture, all, etc. Thats what I all know.

But genetically, you are overwhelmingly Amazigh although you have Arab blood. You even have H1v as your mtDNA marker, which is from Iberian EEF/Farmers who settle in NW Africa during the Neolithic. Much of your ancestors would have lived as cathegenians, Numidians, Mauretanians (where the word moors come from), Romano-Berbers than as a Himiyarite, Sabeans, South Arabian.

[gixajo]

Do a lot of North Africans score around 8 percent North Atlantic?

Well, Morocco western coast is North Atlantic ocean...

[Daos777]

Well, Morocco western coast is North Atlantic ocean...

Lol thought it was North Pacific Ocean wtf


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[MsSPF]

Never seen a North African with a high score like that for Arabian. Interesting.
Are you sure you don’t have recent middle eastern ancestors ?
Are you from a specific family lineage (chorfa etc...) ?

I am myself for from an Arabic speaking tribe and I’m 100% Berber.
My tribe is known to be an Arabized Berber tribe though.

[gixajo]

Never seen a North African with a high score like that for Arabian. Interesting.
Are you sure you don’t have recent middle eastern ancestors ?
Are you from a specific family lineage (chorfa etc...) ?

I am myself for from an Arabic speaking tribe and I’m 100% Berber.
My tribe is known to be an Arabized Berber tribe though.

Did you post any ethnic estimation results?

[MsSPF]

Did you post any ethnic estimation results?


Did you post any ethnic estimation results?

Yes but it changed a lot. I used to have more European before.

98% North African (Located my region perfectly)
0,5% Broadly Arab, Egyptian and Levantine
0.7% Spanish and Portuguese
0.2% Unknown

So pure lol

[gixajo]

Yes but it changed a lot. I used to have more European before.

98% North African (Located my region perfectly)
0,5% Broadly Arab, Egyptian and Levantine
0.7% Spanish and Portuguese
0.2% Unknown

So pure lol

Strange results, which company are from, 23andme?

[MsSPF]

Strange results, which company are from, 23andme?

23andme yes, don’t know how accurate it is but the region in Algeria was on point

[Adamm]

She is an Arab without any doubt, if she would test her father he would probably be J1. The fact she still has around 10% peninsular DNA tells a lot because autosomal DNA can be outbred within a few generations. Arabs entered 1000 year ago in N Africa with the hilalian invasion, famous Arab tribes settled in Morocco and that's heavily documented. She is an Arab because she has Arab heritage and Arab ancestors even though she's majority - berber- autosomal DNA. She should test the paternal haplogroup of her father, it will reveal more information. Arab men married with local women trough this last 1000 year so it's not weird she doesn't score 100% peninsular DNA. Can you also name the tribes of your parents

[Nassbean]

Do a lot of North Africans score around 8 percent North Atlantic?

I think so I scored around 19%

[Nassbean]

I guess you mean eurogenes because i found those k- descriptions only there...

eurogenes k13:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 28.06
2 Red_Sea 26.4
3 West_Med 14.96
4 Sub-Saharan 14.12
5 Northeast_African 8.9
6 North_Atlantic 7.56

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Algerian 13.13
2 Tunisian 13.44
3 Mozabite_Berber 13.67
4 Moroccan 14.45
5 Egyptian 17.57
6 Bedouin 21.69
7 Libyan_Jewish 25.74
8 Saudi 26.07
9 Tunisian_Jewish 26.69
10 Jordanian 26.73
11 Palestinian 27.06
12 Algerian_Jewish 27.86



Yes you really have a lot of arab admixture from which part of morocco are you from ?

[Nassbean]

But genetically, you are overwhelmingly Amazigh although you have Arab blood. You even have H1v as your mtDNA marker, which is from Iberian EEF/Farmers who settle in NW Africa during the Neolithic. Much of your ancestors would have lived as cathegenians, Numidians, Mauretanians (where the word moors come from), Romano-Berbers than as a Himiyarite, Sabeans, South Arabian.

she has a lot of arab admixture compared to the average moroccan It's the first time I see a moroccan with such results on gedmatch

[Elias.99]

Yep you're def Arab Moroccan I thought they were pretty rare but you score very high

[happycow]

I guess you mean eurogenes because i found those k- descriptions only there...

eurogenes k13:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 East_Med 28.06
2 Red_Sea 26.4
3 West_Med 14.96
4 Sub-Saharan 14.12
5 Northeast_African 8.9
6 North_Atlantic 7.56

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Algerian 13.13
2 Tunisian 13.44
3 Mozabite_Berber 13.67
4 Moroccan 14.45
5 Egyptian 17.57
6 Bedouin 21.69
7 Libyan_Jewish 25.74
8 Saudi 26.07
9 Tunisian_Jewish 26.69
10 Jordanian 26.73
11 Palestinian 27.06
12 Algerian_Jewish 27.86
13 Syrian 28.7
14 Sephardic_Jewish 28.87
15 Yemenite_Jewish 29.18
16 Italian_Jewish 30.03
17 Ashkenazi 30.48
18 Samaritan 30.86
19 East_Sicilian 31.07
20 Lebanese_Muslim 31.67

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 71.3% Mozabite_Berber + 28.7% Saudi @ 9.55
2 74.8% Algerian + 25.2% Saudi @ 10.37
3 76.7% Mozabite_Berber + 23.3% Yemenite_Jewish @ 10.93
4 71.8% Moroccan + 28.2% Saudi @ 11.1
5 75.8% Tunisian + 24.2% Saudi @ 11.15
6 81.3% Algerian + 18.7% Yemenite_Jewish @ 11.61
7 65.4% Mozabite_Berber + 34.6% Egyptian @ 11.83
8 72.8% Mozabite_Berber + 27.2% Bedouin @ 11.88
9 77% Moroccan + 23% Yemenite_Jewish @ 12.07
10 71.8% Algerian + 28.2% Egyptian @ 12.15
11 78.4% Algerian + 21.6% Bedouin @ 12.16
12 95.9% Algerian + 4.1% Yoruban @ 12.42
13 95.6% Algerian + 4.4% Mandenka @ 12.43
14 83.8% Tunisian + 16.2% Yemenite_Jewish @ 12.43
15 95.7% Algerian + 4.3% Bantu_S.W. @ 12.51
16 63% Moroccan + 37% Egyptian @ 12.51
17 95.7% Algerian + 4.3% Bantu_S.E. @ 12.52
18 90% Tunisian + 10% Ethiopian_Amhara @ 12.54
19 95.7% Algerian + 4.3% Biaka_Pygmy @ 12.59
20 95.5% Algerian + 4.5% Bantu_N.E. @ 12.62


eurogenes k15:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Red_Sea 26.56
2 East_Med 24.95
3 West_Med 14.39
4 Sub-Saharan 13.53
5 Northeast_African 10.35
6 Atlantic 10.21

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Tunisian 12.97
2 Algerian 13.59
3 Mozabite_Berber 13.9
4 Moroccan 14.56
5 Egyptian 19.4
6 Bedouin 23.26
7 Libyan_Jewish 27.26
8 Tunisian_Jewish 27.42
9 Jordanian 27.75
10 Algerian_Jewish 27.82
11 Saudi 28.24
12 Sephardic_Jewish 28.64
13 Palestinian 28.95
14 Italian_Jewish 29.51
15 Ashkenazi 29.93
16 Syrian 30.06
17 East_Sicilian 31.01
18 West_Sicilian 31.11
19 Samaritan 32.19
20 South_Italian 32.41

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 72.9% Mozabite_Berber + 27.1% Saudi @ 9.83
2 80.4% Tunisian + 19.6% Saudi @ 11.34
3 79.2% Mozabite_Berber + 20.8% Yemenite_Jewish @ 11.37
4 78.1% Algerian + 21.9% Saudi @ 11.51
5 74.5% Moroccan + 25.5% Saudi @ 11.58
6 73.7% Mozabite_Berber + 26.3% Bedouin @ 11.93
7 68.9% Mozabite_Berber + 31.1% Egyptian @ 12.1
8 89.2% Tunisian + 10.8% Yemenite_Jewish @ 12.45
9 92.6% Tunisian + 7.4% Ethiopian_Amhara @ 12.46
10 96.6% Tunisian + 3.4% Mandenka @ 12.49
11 96.8% Tunisian + 3.2% Yoruban @ 12.49
12 92.7% Tunisian + 7.3% Ethiopian_Tigray @ 12.51
13 96.5% Tunisian + 3.5% Bantu_S.W. @ 12.52
14 96.5% Tunisian + 3.5% Bantu_S.E. @ 12.52
15 96.4% Tunisian + 3.6% Biaka_Pygmy @ 12.53
16 96.1% Tunisian + 3.9% Bantu_N.E. @ 12.55
17 96.2% Tunisian + 3.8% Luhya @ 12.56
18 96.2% Tunisian + 3.8% Mbuti_Pygmy @ 12.59
19 94.7% Tunisian + 5.3% Somali @ 12.59
20 85.8% Algerian + 14.2% Yemenite_Jewish @ 12.65


eurogenes k36:

Population
Amerindian -
Arabian 19.94 Pct
Armenian -
Basque 3.70 Pct
Central_African -
Central_Euro -
East_African -
East_Asian -
East_Balkan -
East_Central_Asian -
East_Central_Euro -
East_Med 3.17 Pct
Eastern_Euro -
Fennoscandian -
French -
Iberian 1.06 Pct
Indo-Chinese -
Italian 6.42 Pct
Malayan -
Near_Eastern 12.74 Pct
North_African 27.65 Pct
North_Atlantic -
North_Caucasian -
North_Sea -
Northeast_African 13.91 Pct
Oceanian -
Omotic -
Pygmy -
Siberian -
South_Asian -
South_Central_Asian -
South_Chinese -
Volga-Ural -
West_African 8.12 Pct
West_Caucasian -
West_Med 3.29 Pct

Dat red sea! :cool:

[Gaditanian]

Bro, when are you going to get your G25 coords?

I am waiting for Davidski because I have read that until July he does not accept orders. I have seen that admixture studio in the pro version, offers Nmonte for only $ 5 but I do not know if will help to me to do the G25 or not. what do you think?

[Sora]

Nice results :o

I see a North African with that high Arab admixture for the first time

[Rocinante]

I am waiting for Davidski because I have read that until July he does not accept orders. I have seen that admixture studio in the pro version, offers Nmonte for only $ 5 but I do not know if will help to me to do the G25 or not. what do you think?

I think G25 is the best tool to modeling ancestry right now, Lukasz tools are good too, but G25 is a no-end fun and interesting tool. If you get your G25, i will give my models to you personally, because i want to see of what are you made.

[Gaditanian]

My family can trace back ancestry to the Arabian Peninsula including Yemen. Its also in our family traditions. Why would I make it up.. I know I have some Berber ancestry as well. People mixed with each other. But nobody in my family speaks a Berber language. They only speak Arabic. And we were raised as Arabs, in culture, all, etc. Thats what I all know.

I don't mean to dash your hopes, but you still thinking that you are arab with some berber even when you are watching with the tests that you are a berber with some arab and minor iberian.

In k36 I have near of 20 of Italian like you have of arab, but I don't consider my self italian, but Iberian with some Italian heritage.

My language comes from latins italians, my culture, my law, my architecture.. but even despite all, I see myself as iberian.

Of course you're free to think what you want due the legacy of the arabs tribes that arrived to Morocco in the last centuries and I understand that you would like to be proud of them but DNA is DNA

[Hashoeva]

congratulations on your results. the most closest and best fit in the ancestry calculators you posted so far is 42% yemeni arab and 58% Moroccan. your arab ancestry is most likely yemeni. you really have a lot of real arabian ancestry. very interesting. you can call yourself an arab for sure. because genetically the moroccan itself is not pure berber or something. north -africans are already mixed with other middle-eastern people like levantines / phoenicians, etc. besides, berbers belong to the same afro-asiatic language speakers like semitic people and racialy berbers are like the semitic people.