Classify girl from Northeast European countryside

[Ymyyakhtakh]

https://i.imgur.com/XV9ujY9.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/N1iJJaV.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/pMY2uK6.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/BmCNiIW.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/2HIi7Zp.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/Rr9wLI7.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/kPh2RGN.jpg

From northern Bashkortostan (further north than Copenhagen). Born 1993, photos from 2012-2013.

Rugevit told me that Bashkortostan is not Northeast Europe. But even the yearly average temperature in the capital of Bashkortostan is colder than in the capital of any Nordic country (based on temperature data listed by Wikipedia, generally from 1981-2010):

(yearly average temperature;city)
-3.1;Naryan-Mar (Nenets Autonomous Okrug)
-2.3;Kárášjohka (Sápmi)
1.3;Syktyvkar (Komi Republic)
1.7;Kudymkar (Komi-Permyak Okrug)
3.0;Izhevsk (Udmurtia)
3.1;Petrozavodsk (Republic of Karelia)
3.2;Yoshkar-Ola (Mari El)
3.8;Ufa (Bashkortostan)
4.3;Cheboksary (Chuvashia)
4.6;Kazan (Tatarstan)
4.7;Reykjavik
5.3;Saransk (Mordovia)
5.7;Mariehamn (Åland Islands)
5.8;Moscow
5.9;Helsinki
5.9;Tallinn
6.1;Riga
6.7;Vilnius
6.8;Oslo
6.8;Tórshavn (Faroe Islands)
7.6;Stockholm
9.1;Copenhagen
9.3;Edinburgh

[Immanenz]

Uralid-Ladogan range

[Finnish Swede]

Russian?

[Chris596]

Uralid mainly. She looks like one of my cousins but I don't think I'm allowed to post pictures here about her..

[Sora]

Uralid

[Skye]

I agree with Uralid. I'm guessing she's Finnish and or Sami?

[Ouistreham]

Sami and/or Komi

[Chris596]

I agree with Uralid. I'm guessing she's Finnish and or Sami?

She's from Bashkortostan, south of the Ural Mountains.

[Chris596]

Russian?

I don't think ethnic Russian can look like her, unless they have other ethnic backgrounds as well.

I saw a video where some Russian military representative said that Russia is the largest ,,white country" along with Belorussia, if they exclude other ethnic minorities. Russians consider themselves ,,white", and Slavic of course.

[Ymyyakhtakh]

She's from Bashkortostan, south of the Ural Mountains.

Actually the girl in this thread is from north of Ufa (west of the border between Central Urals and Southern Urals):

https://cdn.britannica.com/73/373-004-99BC97B9/Ural-Mountains.jpg

I think she looks like an unmixed Bashkir. She could pass as Mansi or Khanty but not as Komi, Saami, or Russian. Therefore I agree with Uralid proper / Obid.

[Salty Ears]

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Rugevit told me that Bashkortostan is not Northeast Europe. But even the yearly average temperature in the capital of Bashkortostan is colder than in the capital of any Nordic country (based on temperature data listed by Wikipedia, generally from 1981-2010):


Bashkortorstan is deep continental Russia and middle of Eurasia, it is continental climate with cold winters there, so they have lower average temperature than nordic countries situated on the more warm atlantic waters. There steppe begins with another climate and history than northern borealic forest Russia.

[Gonzalort]

blonde chinese hahaha

[Ymyyakhtakh]

Bashkortorstan is deep continental Russia and middle of Eurasia, it is continental climate with cold winters there, so they have lower average temperature than nordic countries situated on the more warm atlantic waters. There steppe begins with another climate and history than northern borealic forest Russia.

At least the range of habitat of the spruce extends to Bashkortostan:

https://d3i71xaburhd42.cloudfront.net/37492d14d2aba0a61bdb3757f59262a6e8cd612b/8-Figure1-1.png
https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1853/44483165601_6d94866c7c_b.jpg

This is the town of Bashkortostan where the girl in this thread is from (https://zizis.livejournal.com/321107.html). Look at all those gorgeous spruces:

https://imgprx.livejournal.net/84fa943add66e6406023b43df1d6626b5dc70386/v6hogQmeOm8NqT2sz28G1qJ49GJG6USWgcg6Lvn4GvD3U2uqz_ Rz9HnDKMUl8PwMrbUmKF17Xxx54Yo1MYJFjs2hQ0XzJ83G7Udn rqrjhaI

Other views. If there's spruces, it looks like the north:

https://i.imgur.com/L8aUEmB.jpghttps://sun9-39.userapi.com/c630430/v630430146/12b31/bZbv6z0thOc.jpg

[Finnish Swede]

I don't think ethnic Russian can look like her, unless they have other ethnic backgrounds as well.

Well .... I opposite though:

1.) North East .... now incl. Finland and Russia mainly .... not anymore 3 Baltic countries.
2.) 5. photo from top (and some others as well) showed she is not from Finland. And even as I would have
included 3. Baltic countries, my (best) guess would have been same.

[Lemminkäinen]

I don't exactly understand what is the idea to show obvious Asian tundra phenotypes in a context of Scandinavia. Even in Bashkortostan people are not homogeneous. She doesn't look Saami, she has a typical Asian tundra looks while Saamis have a very distinct Fennoscandian tundra looks. I have seen in Finland people showing similar features in a lesser degree and every time I wonder who they are, because I can easily spot the Finnish own peculiarity (https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?324954-Type-Miss-Kuopio-Milla-Romppanen&p=6743566&viewfull=1#post6743566).

[Ymyyakhtakh]

I tried searching for this girl's photos on Yandex's reverse image search (https://yandex.ru/images/search?source=collections&url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FpMY2uK6.jpg&rpt=imagelike), I found this 70s B-movie actress (Lynn Lowrie), who looks ultra-Uralische. Uralische people look like more highly evolved versions of whites who exist on an alternate timeline.

https://i.imgur.com/ij2LDOv.jpg

[Ymyyakhtakh]

I don't exactly understand what is the idea to show obvious Asian tundra phenotypes in a context of Scandinavia. Even in Bashkortostan people are not homogeneous. She doesn't look Saami, she has a typical Asian tundra looks while Saamis have a very distinct Fennoscandian tundra looks. I have seen in Finland people showing similar features in a lesser degree and every time I wonder who they are, because I can easily spot the Finnish own peculiarity (https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?324954-Type-Miss-Kuopio-Milla-Romppanen&p=6743566&viewfull=1#post6743566).

It's more like a transcontinental taiga / temperate forest / forest-steppe phenotype. She looks like Bashkir or Mansi or Khanty. Unless you use a liberal definition of taiga, Bashkirs mostly live in temperate forest zone or forest-steppe zone, and there's a lot more Bashkirs than there are Khanty or Mansi.

There isn't that much tundra even in Siberia, and few indigenous Siberians live in tundra. Buryats and Tuvans alone make up about half of the indigenous Siberian population (~650k + ~250k out of ~1.8m), and they live in a fairly small area north of Mongolia more than 1,000 km away from the tundra.

If you exclude Siberian mestizos, the only part of "Asian tundra" where there's native people who look like this is basically Yamalo-Nenets Autonomous Okrug. But even they would be rare, because Nenetses who look like this are probably mixed, and the Khanty of Yamalo-Nenets AO mostly live in the taiga.

There's also Bashkirs who look like the Finno-Permic peoples of the Volga-Ural region, or who look like exaggerated versions of Finns, like this one:

https://i.imgur.com/Rpgnjlm.jpg

[Lemminkäinen]

It's more like a transcontinental taiga / temperate forest / forest-steppe phenotype. She looks like Bashkir or Mansi or Khanty. Unless you use a liberal definition of taiga, Bashkirs mostly live in temperate forest zone or forest-steppe zone, and there's a lot more Bashkirs than there are Khanty or Mansi.

There isn't that much tundra even in Siberia, and few indigenous Siberians live in tundra. Buryats and Tuvans alone make up about half of the indigenous Siberian population (~650k + ~250k out of ~1.8m), and they live in a fairly small area north of Mongolia more than 1,000 km away from the tundra.

If you exclude Siberian mestizos, the only part of "Asian tundra" where there's native people who look like this is basically Yamalo-Nenets Autonomous Okrug. But even they would be rare, because Nenetses who look like this are probably mixed, and the Khanty of Yamalo-Nenets AO mostly live in the taiga.

There's also Bashkirs who look like the Finno-Permic peoples of the Volga-Ural region, or who look like exaggerated versions of Finns, like this one:

https://i.imgur.com/Rpgnjlm.jpg

I wonder what exactly is Finnish in her. Small eyes or blond hair? Is she a real blonde. Freckles are not common in Finland. I have seen a few her kind in North Karelia, as a borderline case near White Sea.

[Finnish Swede]

I wonder what exactly is Finnish in her. Small eyes or blond hair? Is she a real blonde. Freckles are not common in Finland. I have seen a few her kind in North Karelia, as a borderline case near White Sea.

Also clothes, hairstyles, environment /nature vs. infra .... behind of photos ... tells their own language.

[Finnish Swede]

I wonder what exactly is Finnish in her. Small eyes or blond hair? Is she a real blonde. Freckles are not common in Finland. I have seen a few her kind in North Karelia, as a borderline case near White Sea.


Do you think these women opposite could fit much better into Finland? If yes (looking ''Finnish'') .... I wonder could they fit anywhere else (as having ''Finnic looks'')?

https://i.ibb.co/c1tk01M/Photo-1-kopio.jpg

https://i.ibb.co/CvVkbW5/Photo-2-kopio.jpg

https://i.ibb.co/34RBWnr/Photo-3-kopio.jpg

https://i.ibb.co/dPfHh1x/Photo-4-kopio.jpg

https://i.ibb.co/WvT7hJL/Photo-5-kopio.jpg

https://i.ibb.co/8gRPJQR/Photo-6-kopio.jpg

https://i.ibb.co/61NdgRp/Photo-7-kopio.jpg

https://i.ibb.co/LYxNd8F/Photo-9-kopio.jpg

https://i.ibb.co/XpJpYFg/Photo-10-kopio.jpg

https://i.ibb.co/D9pS4jr/Photo-11-kopio.jpg

[Östsvensk]

I tried searching for this girl's photos on Yandex's reverse image search (https://yandex.ru/images/search?source=collections&url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FpMY2uK6.jpg&rpt=imagelike), I found this 70s B-movie actress (Lynn Lowrie), who looks ultra-Uralische. Uralische people look like more highly evolved versions of whites who exist on an alternate timeline.

https://i.imgur.com/ij2LDOv.jpg

Most Europeans have a small minority of individuals with Mongoloid-like traits according to Coon.


...we may dismiss the theory that the Anatolian Turks are in any sense mongoloid. It may be possible to find individuals with some recognizable mongoloid features, but no more frequently than in most European countries. - The Races of Europe, 1939, ch: The Osmanli Turks

Strictly speaking, a concave nose is not a West Eurasian (Caucasoid) trait according to Coon, but the result of a contact and mixture with East Eurasians.


Otherwise the Lapp face takes a position midway, in many respects, between whites and mongoloids. The bizygomatic diameter, of 140 mm., or thereabouts, is in the white range; it is narrow in proportion to the vault, but it seems wide in relationship to jaw-and forehead. The malars, while not notable for lateral jut, project forward prominently. The nose is on the whole low and flattish; with a straight or concave bridge, low root, and a peculiar snubbed or pointed, up-turned tip. This prominence of the tip is retained characteristically in mixture. On the whole the nose is mesorrhine, and is in this respect not unlike those of many of the Finnish and Slavic peoples in eastern Europe. The eyes are widely separated, set in low orbits, and overhung in some instances with median or external folds, rarely with the mongoloid epicanthus. - The Races of Europe, 1939, ch: The Lapps

[Chris596]

Strictly speaking, a concave nose is not a West Eurasian (Caucasoid) trait according to Coon, but the result of a contact and mixture with East Eurasians.


I didn't know this. So basically thousands of years ago everyone even in Europe had crooked and hook noses? No offense, but I find it unusual because we don't have it in my family.

[Jana]

Ugly.

[Immanenz]

Most Europeans have a small minority of individuals with Mongoloid-like traits according to Coon.


...we may dismiss the theory that the Anatolian Turks are in any sense mongoloid. It may be possible to find individuals with some recognizable mongoloid features, but no more frequently than in most European countries. - The Races of Europe, 1939, ch: The Osmanli Turks

Strictly speaking, a concave nose is not a West Eurasian (Caucasoid) trait according to Coon, but the result of a contact and mixture with East Eurasians.





So this French Alpine is also half Mongolid right?
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there are a few Alpine types in the NW and Centraleuro with concave noses, not very common but they exist. I dont think everything can be explained with Mongolid admix.
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?325959-Classify-an-Italian-cycling-team-from-Verona-(Veneto)
also example Nr. 7 from Veneto- fully North italian

[Jana]

Concave noses have absolutely nothing to do with mongoloids. My nose is naturally concave as is of millions of Europeans.
And alpinids have concave nose as a rule.

[Östsvensk]

I didn't know this. So basically thousands of years ago everyone even in Europe had crooked and hook noses? No offense, but I find it unusual because we don't have it in my family.

Well, that is what Coon is saying there, but Borreby can have a concave nose too, and he is saying in the same book that they have no Mongoloid admixture.

Neither the Lapps nor the Ladogan derivatives are or have ever been fully mongoloid, but they have evolved a certain distance in a mongoloid direction. There is nothing specifically mongoloid about the Brünn or Borreby type, the unreduced Upper Paleolithic survivors.

[Jana]

SSA have concave noses wide cheekbones too and whatever features anthrotards assign to mongoloids. It's just nonsense. Most if not all facial features can be find among all races.

[Lemminkäinen]

Do you think these women opposite could fit much better into Finland? If yes (looking ''Finnish'') .... I wonder could they fit anywhere else (as having ''Finnic looks'')?

https://i.ibb.co/c1tk01M/Photo-1-kopio.jpg

https://i.ibb.co/CvVkbW5/Photo-2-kopio.jpg

https://i.ibb.co/34RBWnr/Photo-3-kopio.jpg

https://i.ibb.co/dPfHh1x/Photo-4-kopio.jpg

https://i.ibb.co/WvT7hJL/Photo-5-kopio.jpg

https://i.ibb.co/8gRPJQR/Photo-6-kopio.jpg

https://i.ibb.co/61NdgRp/Photo-7-kopio.jpg

https://i.ibb.co/LYxNd8F/Photo-9-kopio.jpg

https://i.ibb.co/XpJpYFg/Photo-10-kopio.jpg

https://i.ibb.co/D9pS4jr/Photo-11-kopio.jpg

Yeah, but knowing the public opinion (I'm not a public enemy) I try to avoid race war :)

[NPKTO]

Baltid & Uralid I guess. Some of those extreme Northern European phenotypes give me pseudo-Mongoloid vibes.

[Östsvensk]

SSA have concave noses wide cheekbones too and whatever features anthrotards assign to mongoloids. It's just nonsense. Most if not all facial features can be find among all races.

Well, that's kind of what I quoted from the book said...


...we may dismiss the theory that the Anatolian Turks are in any sense mongoloid. It may be possible to find individuals with some recognizable mongoloid features, but no more frequently than in most European countries. - The Races of Europe, 1939, ch: The Osmanli Turks

I also believe that he meant the more upturned kind of concave nose. Many Europeans have a slight concavity, but the nose is still straight in profile. Snub noses (Tim Robbins, River Phoenix) are quite rare in Western Europeans and Europeans outside of the northeast overall.

[Jana]

Well, that's kind of what I quoted from the book said...


...we may dismiss the theory that the Anatolian Turks are in any sense mongoloid. It may be possible to find individuals with some recognizable mongoloid features, but no more frequently than in most European countries. - The Races of Europe, 1939, ch: The Osmanli Turks

I also believe that he meant the more upturned kind of concave nose. Many Europeans have a slight concavity, but the nose is still straight in profile. Snub noses (Tim Robbins, River Phoenix) are quite rare in Western Europeans and Europeans outside of the northeast overall.

Coon is outdated. Anatolian Turks have significant mongoloid admixture. Snub noses aren't rare in Croatia or Hungary which are pretty far south. It's much more common than people say.
My nose was real snub one (I mean curved) before the break and I see such noses in people like French for example quite often.

[Östsvensk]

Coon is outdated. Anatolian Turks have significant mongoloid admixture. Snub noses aren't rare in Croatia or Hungary which are pretty far south. It's much more common than people say.
My nose was real snub one (I mean curved) before the break and I see such noses in people like French for example quite often.

I have a snub nose as well. I have always found it to be rare among Swedes and presumably other NW Europeans to have one but if you say so, I'll take you word for it.

[Ymyyakhtakh]

Baltid & Uralid I guess. Some of those extreme Northern European phenotypes give me pseudo-Mongoloid vibes.

Nothing pseudo bout it. Bashkirs are about 30-50% Mongoloid, and I think the girl in this thread looks around that range: more mong than Mari (~30%) but less mong than Khanty (~60%).

This is what mixes between Northern Europeans and North Asians look like. It's just such a rare combination outside Russia (and Finland and Sápmi) that even Finns don't know what it looks like, or that many of us ourselves look the same way.

https://i.ibb.co/LkvbYp1/yunusbayev-turkic-admixture.png


Do you think these women opposite could fit much better into Finland? If yes (looking ''Finnish'') .... I wonder could they fit anywhere else (as having ''Finnic looks'')?

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Finns are supposed to be more redneck people. These post lifestyle blogger type ladies have a demeanor and attitude that is foreign to Finland.

Also average Finns look less Finnish than someone who looks exaggeratedly Finnish, in the same way that average Jews look less Jewish than the happy merchant.

I didn't even say the actress I posted looked Finnish, but that she looked Uralische. Finns don't even have the highest number of Uralische/NEUP people per capita, but for example Maris and Khanty rank higher. Uralische means something like my and Laag's (RIP) phenotypic ideal which is characteristic of the ancient population of the Northeast European boreal zone, or something like an idealized version of Coon's Ladogan type. (It's also intentionally misspelled "Uralische" instead of "Uralisch", because that was the form popularized by Laag (PBUH).)

[Immanenz]

I have a snub nose as well. I have always found it to be rare among Swedes and presumably other NW Europeans to have one but if you say so, I'll take you word for it.

I dont think its that uncommon in Sweden or in other parts of Scandinavia, but i know its nothing very common either.

[Ülev]

we do need more Komid women, girls and milfs, unban Laag!

[Immanenz]

Finns are supposed to be more redneck people. These post lifestyle blogger type ladies have a demeanor and attitude that is foreign to Finland.

Also average Finns look less Finnish than someone who looks exaggeratedly Finnish, in the same way that average Jews look less Jewish than the happy merchant.



Thats an interesting take.

Do you think this woman has Ladogan influences?

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[Daos777]

North Pontid with Down syndrome


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[Voskos]

Paleoturkish+paleolithic European.

[Ymyyakhtakh]

This is one reason why I think the range of the Uralid proper (Obid) type should extend to Bashkiria (Between Lake Baikal and the Baltic Sea: genomic history of the gateway to Europe (https://bmcgenet.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12863-017-0578-3)):


Additionally, we observed excessive IBD sharing between Khanty and Bashkir, a group of Turkic speakers from Southern Urals region. While adding some weight to the "Finno-Ugric" origin of Bashkir, our studies highlighted that the Bashkir genepool lacks the main "core", being a multi-layered amalgamation of Turkic, Ugric, Finnish and Indo-European contributions, which points at intricacy of genetic interface between Turkic and Uralic populations. [...]

Bashkir and Tatar are major Turkic groups in the region. Although both ethnic groups live in the same region and their languages are mutually intelligible, we surprisingly detected only a limited amount of ancient IBD blocks shared between them, and their overall IBD sharing pattern is different: Tatar share moderate amount of IBD (3.55–7.35 cM per pair) with all neighbouring populations, while Bashkir share most of their ancient blocks (on average 8.62 cM per pair) with Khanty, a group of Uralic speakers from Western Siberia. We speculate that this disparity between cultural and genetic affinities of Tatar and Bashkir can be attributed to a phenomenon of cultural dominance: the population ancestral to Bashkir adopted the Turkic language during Turkic expansion from the east (language replacement event).

Even though typical Bashkirs don't necessarily look Uralid, I think both Uralid proper (Obid) and sub-Uralid (Volgid) are still common minor types among Bashkirs.

There's about 30 times more Bashkirs than Khanty and Mansi combined. Bashkirs have a much stronger Ugric genetic substrate than Hungarians. Therefore the majority of people with a fairly large Ugric genetic component might today be Bashkirs.


Do you think this woman has Ladogan influences?

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Not really. Looks too NWE and semi-wog.

[Ymyyakhtakh]

Here's a morph of Bashkirs I have posted on this forum. They're mostly within the range of sub-Uralid (Mari-like) to Uralid (Khanty-like). (All are old photos of random people I found through the VKontakte API.)

https://i.imgur.com/s4Qspz0.jpg

In comparison, here's morphs of Finns cherry-picked by me (many of who look sub-Uralid) versus the Finns posted by Finnish Swede on page 2. The morph of the photos posted by Finnish Swede looks more Germanic. It has more prominent eyelids, lower palpebral fissure inclination, narrower root of the nose, higher nasal bridge, and a narrower nose.

https://i.imgur.com/LnVz1cD.jpg

Or here's a morph of non-cherrypicked Bashkirs. I searched Google images for "bashkir girl" and I selected the 10 first photos that were fairly high-quality and morphable (even though for example one of the photos was of a redhead who was posted on this forum because of an atypical look):

https://i.imgur.com/jb1Xw3Q.jpg

There are both Bashkirs who look sub-Uralid and Finns who look sub-Uralid, so with my cherrypicking skills, I can create a Bashkir morph that looks like a Finnish morph. However typical Finns and typical Bashkirs both look more southern and more like typical Caucasoids. Finns have strong Germanic southern impurity in the same way that Bashkirs have strong Central Asian southern impurity.

[Chris596]

North Pontid with Down syndrome


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https://i.imgur.com/mZDySwS.jpg

[Immanenz]

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The "Germanic" morph is actually Baltic, but it is more closer to the average Finnish face and to the woman described as typical Finnish looking. (Not sure how accurate this describtion of course is)


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https://www.quora.com/What-is-the-typical-face-of-Finnish-women

[Sacrificed Ram]

https://i.imgur.com/XV9ujY9.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/N1iJJaV.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/pMY2uK6.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/BmCNiIW.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/2HIi7Zp.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/Rr9wLI7.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/kPh2RGN.jpg

From northern Bashkortostan (further north than Copenhagen). Born 1993, photos from 2012-2013.

Rugevit told me that Bashkortostan is not Northeast Europe. But even the yearly average temperature in the capital of Bashkortostan is colder than in the capital of any Nordic country (based on temperature data listed by Wikipedia, generally from 1981-2010):

(yearly average temperature;city)
-3.1;Naryan-Mar (Nenets Autonomous Okrug)
-2.3;Kárášjohka (Sápmi)
1.3;Syktyvkar (Komi Republic)
1.7;Kudymkar (Komi-Permyak Okrug)
3.0;Izhevsk (Udmurtia)
3.1;Petrozavodsk (Republic of Karelia)
3.2;Yoshkar-Ola (Mari El)
3.8;Ufa (Bashkortostan)
4.3;Cheboksary (Chuvashia)
4.6;Kazan (Tatarstan)
4.7;Reykjavik
5.3;Saransk (Mordovia)
5.7;Mariehamn (Åland Islands)
5.8;Moscow
5.9;Helsinki
5.9;Tallinn
6.1;Riga
6.7;Vilnius
6.8;Oslo
6.8;Tórshavn (Faroe Islands)
7.6;Stockholm
9.1;Copenhagen
9.3;Edinburgh

She looks lovely, she reminds me the sister of my girlfriend, a little girl that calls me "father".

Uralo-Ladogan-Neodanubian range.

[Finnish Swede]

Yeah, but knowing the public opinion (I'm not a public enemy) I try to avoid race war :)
Race war? Public opinion (in TA)? Between Finns and Europeans/whites or between Finns and Mongoloids/yellow people :)?



Finns are supposed to be more redneck people. These post lifestyle blogger type ladies have a demeanor and attitude that is foreign to Finland.
Those were not bloggers. Finns rednecks? You should first clarify what redneck means to you. Civilized (knowledges), law-abiding, silent, introvert but also hard - harsh - unyeilding then needed ... perhaps so.



Also average Finns look less Finnish than someone who looks exaggeratedly Finnish. Finns looks exactly as Finnish will and should look.




I didn't even say the actress I posted looked Finnish, but that she looked Uralische. Exactly. She does not even look typical Sami (but if I really would need to put her somewhere in Nordic countries ... then among of them). But over all photos elimated that option pretty well.




Finns don't even have the highest number of Uralische/NEUP people per capita,
Good for them, I guess. You know the best 2 ways to insult Finns? Calling them either mongoloids/asians or Russians.

[HelloGuys]

Russian? Lol idk xd

[HelloGuys]

https://i.imgur.com/mZDySwS.jpg

I have seen some memes about her, but I don't understand, why this girl is usually hated/Bullied? Xdd

[Chris596]

I have seen some memes about her, but I don't understand, why this girl is usually hated/Bullied? Xdd

Well, it's a long story to explain. But some people say she doesn't deserve this much media attention, some people say she also has some sort of illness (I don't know).

BTW I used her picture because they say she's also ,,mongoloid looking" (as the picture suggests). I think this is a normal Scandinavian look, nothing outstanding imo.

[Lemminkäinen]

Finnish-Swede


Race war? Public opinion (in TA)? Between Finns and Europeans/whites or between Finns and Mongoloids/yellow people ?

I see that some people are not aware of the Finnish looks and deny to accept the reality. Some people know the reality, but cherish their uralic utopia, not that it would bother me on anthro forums, but I have seen that also people who should feel responsibility of the civilization of people have lost the reality and repeat lies like parrots.

[Finnish Swede]

Finnish-Swede



I see that some people are not aware of the Finnish looks and deny to accept the reality. Some people know the reality, but cherish their uralic utopia, not that it would bother me on anthro forums, but I have seen that also people who should feel responsibility of the civilization of people have lost the reality and repeat lies like parrots.

Näitkö kun O Mäenpää esitti Japanilaista? Millaista kommenttia nuo synnyttäisi TA.ssa? :)

[Lemminkäinen]

Here's a morph of Bashkirs I have posted on this forum. They're mostly within the range of sub-Uralid (Mari-like) to Uralid (Khanty-like). (All are old photos of random people I found through the VKontakte API.)

https://i.imgur.com/s4Qspz0.jpg

In comparison, here's morphs of Finns cherry-picked by me (many of who look sub-Uralid) versus the Finns posted by Finnish Swede on page 2. The morph of the photos posted by Finnish Swede looks more Germanic. It has more prominent eyelids, lower palpebral fissure inclination, narrower root of the nose, higher nasal bridge, and a narrower nose.

https://i.imgur.com/LnVz1cD.jpg

Or here's a morph of non-cherrypicked Bashkirs. I searched Google images for "bashkir girl" and I selected the 10 first photos that were fairly high-quality and morphable (even though for example one of the photos was of a redhead who was posted on this forum because of an atypical look):

https://i.imgur.com/jb1Xw3Q.jpg

There are both Bashkirs who look sub-Uralid and Finns who look sub-Uralid, so with my cherrypicking skills, I can create a Bashkir morph that looks like a Finnish morph. However typical Finns and typical Bashkirs both look more southern and more like typical Caucasoids. Finns have strong Germanic southern impurity in the same way that Bashkirs have strong Central Asian southern impurity.

Obviously you don't like Finns as they are in reality. People can be "Uralic" or "Germanic" looking. Both definitions are only ideas made in your or my mind. I don't understand why you write about impurity. Of course you can have your beauty concept, but it is only your idea. Everyone has different conceptions, but none of these ideas represents purity or impurity. What we see is only a moment in continuously changing world. You can't prove that your impression about pure Uralic people existed 2000 years ago. We don't know whether they even spoke Uralic language.

[Immanenz]

Obviously you don't like Finns as they are in reality. People can be "Uralic" or "Germanic" looking. Both definitions are only ideas made in your or my mind. I don't understand why you write about impurity. Of course you can have your beauty concept, but it is only your idea. Everyone has different conceptions, but none of these ideas represents purity or impurity. What we see is only a moment in continuously changing reality. You can't prove that your impression about pure Uralic people existed 2000 years ago. We don't know whether they even spoke Uralic language.

"Uralids" are the contrary of pure- they are a mix of depigmeted Cromagnons and Mongolid- they are Mestizos if you want. "Sub-Uralids" are even less pure, Laag was always angry when i told him they can pass in eastuero and Romenia- but thats a fact.

[Lemminkäinen]

Näitkö kun O Mäenpää esitti Japanilaista? Millaista kommenttia nuo synnyttäisi TA.ssa? :)

En. Rotuhygienia-asioissa on meilläkin ongelmia. Mutta en ymmärrä tätä patsaiden kaatamistakaan. Kaikkien henkilöhistoriasta löytyy sanottavaa.

[Duffmannn]

KOMI

[Lemminkäinen]

"Uralids" are the contrary of pure- they are a mix of depigmeted Cromagnons and Mongolid- they are Mestizos if you want. "Sub-Uralids" are even less pure, Laag was always angry when i told him they can pass in eastuero and Romenia- but thats a fact.

Anyway, ymmkhykk and Laag create narratives about pure Uralics. Of course they have right to do it, but syill after all morphs the historical context is thin. I put it simply: outside linguistic hypotheses and evidences we have nothing.

[Finnish Swede]

En. Rotuhygienia-asioissa on meilläkin ongelmia. Mutta en ymmärrä tätä patsaiden kaatamistakaan. Kaikkien henkilöhistoriasta löytyy sanottavaa.

Rotuhygienia? Puhutko nyt ''vieraslajeista''?

https://31.media.tumblr.com/2be501f9af2a3aebc38522b22bf31b96/tumblr_n20emkH2eK1qdny4ho2_250.gif

[Ymyyakhtakh]

Finns looks exactly as Finnish will and should look.

It's not up to you to decide. After the Spurdo-Khan Uralische revolution of 2025, if your palpebral fissure inclination is not at least 7°, you're gonna get your ovaries snipped.


Näitkö kun O Mäenpää esitti Japanilaista? Millaista kommenttia nuo synnyttäisi TA.ssa? :)

How do you know about all these obscure TV shows from 2004 if you're 21... They used eyeliner to make her medial canthi seem more downward-pointing (common weeb trick). I think she looks pretty Uralische even without the yellowface and would recieve Laag's seal of approval.

https://i.imgur.com/6Uogddk.jpg

The shape of the upper eyelid curve is another way in which Mongoloids are phenotypically superior to Caucasoids (https://lookstheory.wordpress.com/2016/09/12/what-makes-a-persons-eyes-attractive/):

https://i.imgur.com/9HnYmvM.jpg

Compared to domesticated animals, wild animals also have more Mongoloid-like eye shape, with more sweeping upper eyelid shape and more downward-pointing medial canthi:

https://i.imgur.com/npD28o2.jpg

[Finnish Swede]

It's not up to you to decide. After the Spurdo-Khan Uralische revolution of 2025, if your palpebral fissure inclination is not at least 7°, you're gonna get your ovaries snipped.
LOL. Are you serious? Never gonna happen! Uralische people lost the game as they let immigrants (slavics) steal their lands (in Russia). Karelians lost their changes for independence country early 20th century ... and one kind of last option would had been at WWII time with Finns.




How do you know about all these obscure TV shows from 2004 if you're 21... They used eyeliner to make her medial canthi seem more downward-pointing (common weeb trick). I think she looks pretty Uralische even without the yellowface and would recieve Laag's seal of approval.



Actually, no idea when the tv-show was originally made.

I have seen spots of it plus Andy McCoy and Mika Salo have mentioned about it (2 Finns who should be someway familiar with Japan & Japaneses). She did fine job, much better than Sean Connery (007) in one old Bond film :). Her looks (among of Finns) & skills (as a actor) helped on that.

[Dominator]

She Mari

[Salty Ears]

LOL. Are you serious? Never gonna happen! Uralische people lost the game as they let immigrants (slavics) steal their lands (in Russia).

Uralische: People from the West want to force us to work for them and to pay big taxes, people from the East robbing our settlements and fucking our daughters. We dont have serious millitary estate, can you help us?

Slavic invaders: Yes, but we will STEAL your land Muahahaha. But you'll get new agricultural technologies.

Uralische: hm.... Oookay

It is funny to read about stealing lands by slavs, while finno-ugric people were in the roots of the Rus' state. Karelians became the allies and vassals of Novgorodians to stop the expansion of Sweden on their lands. Big portion of first russian towns were established on the teritorry of modern Vologda region populated by F-U people, later Vologdians became main power that worked for control of North-East Europe (Russian North). Situation is very easy, you can steal the thing that have some value but if it is just frozen piece of shit and nobody defend it, you just take it.

[Ülev]

(...)
Slavic invaders: Yes, but we will STEAL your land Muahahaha. But you'll get new agricultural technologies.

(...)

didn't know that you are such a great joker :D

[Salty Ears]

At least the range of habitat of the spruce extends to Bashkortostan:

https://d3i71xaburhd42.cloudfront.net/37492d14d2aba0a61bdb3757f59262a6e8cd612b/8-Figure1-1.png
https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1853/44483165601_6d94866c7c_b.jpg

This is the town of Bashkortostan where the girl in this thread is from (https://zizis.livejournal.com/321107.html). Look at all those gorgeous spruces:

https://imgprx.livejournal.net/84fa943add66e6406023b43df1d6626b5dc70386/v6hogQmeOm8NqT2sz28G1qJ49GJG6USWgcg6Lvn4GvD3U2uqz_ Rz9HnDKMUl8PwMrbUmKF17Xxx54Yo1MYJFjs2hQ0XzJ83G7Udn rqrjhaI

Other views. If there's spruces, it looks like the north:

https://i.imgur.com/L8aUEmB.jpghttps://sun9-39.userapi.com/c630430/v630430146/12b31/bZbv6z0thOc.jpg

I understand your logic, but it is mountain territory different from the rest of the territory of Bashkortostan. So Alpes is European North too? I reached Northern Bashkortostan for 4,5 hours by car but get aclimatisation shock and allergic reaction on local plants like after 2 hour flight to North Caucausus.

https://ic.pics.livejournal.com/lipskayaina/67437796/104505/104505_original.jpg

Typical Ufa region landscape

[Salty Ears]

didn't know that you are such a great joker :D

you trying to comment things that you dont know about

[Roy]

Depigmented Mongoloid.

[Ymyyakhtakh]

So Alpes is European North too?

Southern Urals is different, because it's part of the contiguous Northern European and West Siberian taiga zone (= Uralic domain).

The map below says that there are bears even near Ufa. Yet there aren't even bears in the core North Germanic area of Denmark and Southern Sweden.

https://img.allzip.org/g/151/orig/19544641.gif
https://i.imgur.com/8n579qB.jpg

The town where the girl in this thread is from is not really even in the Urals, because it's at an elevation of about 250m. But it's basically close to the southernmost point of the European taiga region at such a low elevation. However actually you're right, and it's atypical for Bashkortostan.

Apart from the Urals, the border between Bashkortostan and Perm Krai follows the border of the taiga, just like how the border between Mari El and Udmurtia in the north and Chuvashia and Tatarstan in the south also follows the border of the taiga.