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Egyptian
06-22-2020, 12:39 PM
Egypt is already building new duabi called Almeen city and new capital but what about New Mansoura city? المنصورة الجديدة

https://www.albawabhnews.com/upload/photo/news/272/5/600x338o/350.jpg?q=1

https://www.propertyfinder.eg/blog/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/4.jpg

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Real photos of the begining of the construction

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https://static.mubasher.info/File.Story_Image/e809cf17cf11c8bdeaef95c2a90d8627/640.jpg

https://www.mansora2day.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/images-13.jpg

https://www.albawabhnews.com/upload/photo/news/294/3/600x338o/204.jpg?q=1

https://mediaaws.almasryalyoum.com/news/large/2019/03/14/906533_0.jpeg

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Egyptian
06-22-2020, 12:40 PM
What the city will look like

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/proxy/rwbC-ThhOY58uqeeoRqqGf3WDShhWmCMTJrgebtxE-ys-b57Yqb617BQEbbLGic809kD8FU-JQXNG1vFL5vGYcboJ36Ichmm9YoNb4ozOW2UlEtLXMOF-xzmxWLIcmeqOSqar8VIlOJjHb8nZuPumK7CFm757o65au0dvXG P2Eu1ApwY

Adamm
06-22-2020, 12:44 PM
Egypt has a lot of problems which will not attract foreign investors:

- Hugh class differences within the society (it's not comfortable walking as a foreigners in Cairo because poor ppl will tend to annoy you all the time)
- Terrorism (Egyptian Army is stil fighting ISIS in Sinai desert and ISIS claims terrorist attacks in the country every now and then)
- Sectarianism (Egypt is not a homogeneous country with a homogeneous elite -like in Dubai-) I forsee big sectarian problems between Christians and muslims in the future.
- Authoritarianism (Sisi doesn't like freedom of speech, freedom of criticizing)
- Libyan war (Egypt at a point in going to enter Libya for their interests)
- Ethiopian war (Egypt probably will go to war with Ethiopia for their interests)

Egyptian
06-22-2020, 01:39 PM
Egypt has a lot of problems which will not attract foreign investors:

- Hugh class differences within the society (it's not comfortable walking as a foreigners in Cairo because poor ppl will tend to annoy you all the time)
- Terrorism (Egyptian Army is stil fighting ISIS in Sinai desert and ISIS claims terrorist attacks in the country every now and then)
- Sectarianism (Egypt is not a homogeneous country with a homogeneous elite -like in Dubai-) I forsee big sectarian problems between Christians and muslims in the future.
- Authoritarianism (Sisi doesn't like freedom of speech, freedom of criticizing)
- Libyan war (Egypt at a point in going to enter Libya for their interests)
- Ethiopian war (Egypt probably will go to war with Ethiopia for their interests)

We have billions of problems but what does that has to do with the subject here? We already have investors from Gulf countries we don't wanna any other investors who only invest in millions while arabs invest in billions : )

Egyptian
06-22-2020, 01:41 PM
Egypt will contain the most 3 advanced cities in the mediterranean ( the new capital, Almeen and new mansoura).

gixajo
06-22-2020, 01:55 PM
When the city is finished, post here photos and we will can comment.:thumb001:

Egyptian
06-22-2020, 01:57 PM
When the city is finished, post here photos and we will can comment.:thumb001:

Comment about what? when its finished , I'll probably move to one of those cities and not waste time here.

Voskos
06-22-2020, 02:09 PM
Cool.

Adamm
06-22-2020, 02:10 PM
Comment about what? when its finished , I'll probably move to one of those cities and not waste time here.

Have you already bought land/real estate in these new cities?

Egyptian
06-22-2020, 02:14 PM
Have you already bought land/real estate in these new cities?

Yeah with 0 downpayment and 3 years installment.

gixajo
06-22-2020, 02:39 PM
Comment about what? when its finished , I'll probably move to one of those cities and not waste time here.

Fantastic.

I don´t need to move anywhere, I am fine where I am.

Comments about something real, not about infographics and computer generated images.

And comments about life in a finished new city, and how it works in reality. How the services work, traffic, pollution, people jobs, creation of suburbs near the original projected city etc...

I remember similar projects of new big cities, in other places and countries, and not all of them work well once finished.

But optimism in the futur that new projects give to the people, has always an stimulating effect.

Spaniard 2.0
06-22-2020, 02:44 PM
nothing to do with dubai, it looks like any project of a normal medium-sized city

Egyptian
06-22-2020, 02:58 PM
nothing to do with dubai, it looks like any project of a normal medium-sized city

That's the city that looks like Dubai.

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?325981-New-Dubai-in-the-Mediterranean

gixajo
06-22-2020, 02:59 PM
nothing to do with dubai, it looks like any project of a normal medium-sized city

It remember me the new built Salburua borrough in Vitoria or any Spanish new urbanization project, with an oriental touch in it´s style, but residential neighborhoods are similar anywhere in the world.

But I supose that the project includes emblematic buildings to give the new city a more distinguishable and unique aspect that gives it a differentiated character. The financial center, or the official and public buildings will have a more different style.

But if they are only concerned with constructing buildings and do not provide the city with efficient services and jobs for its inhabitants, in a short time its appearance will be the same as the city of Cairo, but with a more orderly layout on the map.

Spaniard 2.0
06-22-2020, 03:06 PM
It remember me the new built Salburua borrough in Vitoria or any Spanish new urbanization project, with an oriental touch in it´s style, but residential neighborhoods are similar anywhere in the world.

But I supose that the project includes emblematic buildings to give the new city a more distinguishable and unique aspect that gives it a differentiated character. The financial center, or the official and public buildings will have a more different style.

But if they are only concerned with constructing buildings and do not provide the city with efficient services and jobs for its inhabitants, in a short time its appearance will be the same as the city of Cairo, but with a more orderly layout on the map.

Like Salburua haha, I think Bilbao is doing quite well with Zorrozaurre but only time will tell.

gixajo
06-22-2020, 03:25 PM
Like Salburua haha, I think Bilbao is doing quite well with Zorrozaurre but only time will tell.

Salburua o Zabalgana but in a greater scale. :rolleyes:

I prefer 100 times Salburua, Zabalgana "está en el culo del mundo".

(Un barrio dormitorio con servicios, simple,y estéticamente vulgar y poco homogéneo, pero eficiente.)

Zorrozaurre has a lot of interesting things, they could do there a beautiful thing.

But those are new residential areas inside or around consolidated cities, but those cities in the middle of nowhere...

Egyptian
06-22-2020, 05:33 PM
Fantastic.

I don´t need to move anywhere, I am fine where I am.

Comments about something real, not about infographics and computer generated images.

And comments about life in a finished new city, and how it works in reality. How the services work, traffic, pollution, people jobs, creation of suburbs near the original projected city etc...

I remember similar projects of new big cities, in other places and countries, and not all of them work well once finished.

But optimism in the futur that new projects give to the people, has always an stimulating effect.

Could be , could be.

who knows, but we sure hope these cities will be full of people ... and it's a must that we go to these new cities, why? because already 100 million of people living in less than 9% percent of Egypt.

Spaniard 2.0
06-22-2020, 07:38 PM
Salburua o Zabalgana but in a greater scale. :rolleyes:

I prefer 100 times Salburua, Zabalgana "está en el culo del mundo".

(Un barrio dormitorio con servicios, simple,y estéticamente vulgar y poco homogéneo, pero eficiente.)

Zorrozaurre has a lot of interesting things, they could do there a beautiful thing.

But those are new residential areas inside or around consolidated cities, but those cities in the middle of nowhere...

Estéticamente no es vulgar es hasta innovador y para algunos seguro que bonito y yo también prefiero los barrios dormitorio (para vivir), pero creo que se pueden hacer ciudades dormitorio mucho mas bonitas y sin que parezcan ciudades postapocalipticas.
Locales cerrados, edificios que envejecen mal, avenidas enormes (que hay que mantener o sino quedan aun peor)... Aunque supongo que es marca España.

gixajo
06-22-2020, 08:44 PM
Estéticamente no es vulgar es hasta innovador y para algunos seguro que bonito y yo también prefiero los barrios dormitorio (para vivir), pero creo que se pueden hacer ciudades dormitorio mucho mas bonitas y sin que parezcan ciudades postapocalipticas.
Locales cerrados, edificios que envejecen mal, avenidas enormes (que hay que mantener o sino quedan aun peor)... Aunque supongo que es marca España.

En los 70, 80 y principios de los 90, esos comercios de barrio funcionaban, pero hoy en día, la gente va a centros comerciales, pero parece que las constructoras siguen con la inercia de llenar los bajos de locales comerciales que nunca llegan a usarse para nada. Ahora parece que empiezan a aprender.

No sé si es marca España, en cualquier barrio periférico de ciudades grandes Europeas se ven cosas similares, salvo en zonas donde se tiende más a vivir en viviendas unifamiliares, que tienen también desventajas. Mira como son los suburbios de París o Moscú.

Yo no digo que prefiero barrios dormitorio, yo prefiero el centro de la ciudad, solo digo que prefiero Salburua a Zabalgana en el caso de barrios de nueva construcción de Vitoria.No me gusta conducir, y menos por zonas urbanas, y vivir en esos barrios te obliga a ello.

Zorrozaurre no tiene mala pinta, ni está del todo mal comunicado, tampoco está tan lejor de Deusto, no?

Bornoz
06-22-2020, 08:50 PM
Well, that's not how it works. Telling you as a civil engineer.

Spaniard 2.0
06-22-2020, 08:56 PM
En los 70, 80 y principios de los 90, esos comercios de barrio funcionaban, pero hoy en día, la gente va a centros comerciales, pero parece que las constructoras siguen con la inercia de llenar los bajos de locales comerciales que nunca llegan a usarse para nada. Ahora parece que empiezan a aprender.

No sé si es marca España, en cualquier barrio periférico de ciudades grandes Europeas se ven cosas similares, salvo en zonas donde se tiende más a vivir en viviendas unifamiliares, que tienen también desventajas. Mira como son los suburbios de París o Moscú.

Yo no digo que prefiero barrios dormitorio, yo prefiero el centro de la ciudad, solo digo que prefiero Salburua a Zabalgana en el caso de barrios de nueva construcción de Vitoria.No me gusta conducir, y menos por zonas urbanas, y vivir en esos barrios te obliga a ello.

Zorrozaurre no tiene mala pinta, ni está del todo mal comunicado, tampoco está tan lejor de Deusto, no?

Van a hacer un puente con san ignacio, pero si, no esta lejos de deusto (El centro de Bilbao tampoco es muy grande)

Bravado
01-30-2021, 06:50 AM
Looking good. :thumb001: