Would this English woman look typical among East Meds?

[MobyD]

As far as I know she is 100% English descent. Her name is Lucy Mecklenburgh and she's from East London if that means anything...
https://keyassets-p2.timeincuk.net/wp/prod/wp-content/uploads/sites/30/2018/04/Lucy-Mecklenburgh.jpg
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn%3AANd9GcS34hLtELnVC7-rySCmOcFJoQGEu79TxqOw3is2ppE9fmy0mivP&usqp=CAU
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/83/4b/69/834b693bd7e7bb76dc383485ee8df530.jpg
https://www.hellomagazine.com/imagenes/profiles/lucy-mecklenburgh/6045-lucy-mecklenburgh.jpg
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/03/21/article-2586582-1C7A807500000578-338_634x809.jpg
https://www.echo-news.co.uk/resources/images/2599522/
https://www.newsshopper.co.uk/resources/images/2135351.jpg
https://i2-prod.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/incoming/article17834297.ece/ALTERNATES/s615/1_Mum-to-be-Lucy-Mecklenburgh-gives-fans-a-tour-of-her-super-organised-nursery.jpg

[Immanenz]

Compare to various East Med varieties (East Alpine, Armenoid, Iranid from Iran and East Med/Cappadocid from Tukrey from troe plate. Also search croud photos of Iran etc. if there is still doubt.

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Op is AlpineMed for the record. Just proofs that make up/tan can fool some Americans into oblivion.

[Jaffar Ahmed Mohamad]

If English people look like that how were they able to tell english apart from indians (when they occupied india) ???!!!

[Sacrificed Ram]

Pass, pass even as mulatta.

[MobyD]

Compare to various East Med varieties (East Alpine, Armenoid, Iranid from Iran and East Med/Cappadocid from Tukrey from troe plate. Also search croud photos of Iran etc. if there is still doubt.

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Op is AlpineMed for the record. Just proofs that make up/tan can fool some Americans into oblivion.

Still looks off for the UK....her sister is completely Northern/Central Euro in phenotype.
https://i2-prod.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article3207305.ece/ALTERNATES/s1200c/Lucy-Mecklenburgh-models-with-her-younger-sister-Lydia.jpg
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/3e/50/6b/3e506b57adbf1afda22727d176a4e5e6.jpg

[Immanenz]

Still looks off for the UK....her sister is completely Northern/Central Euro in phenotype.
https://i2-prod.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article3207305.ece/ALTERNATES/s1200c/Lucy-Mecklenburgh-models-with-her-younger-sister-Lydia.jpg
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/3e/50/6b/3e506b57adbf1afda22727d176a4e5e6.jpg

Lol, dont you see that she is basically a more Med- ish version of her.
If her sister would be as tanned you ll propably place her in Libanon/ Syria.

[MobyD]

Lol, dont you see that she is basically a more Med- ish version of her.
If her sister would be as tanned you ll propably place her in Libanon/ Syria.

Idk I guess....genetics are unpredictable.

[Lioncourt]

Only on the first picture maybe, on the rest she looks typical dark Brit to me.

[Davystayn]

You may have seen this but on wikipedia entries it never gives ethnic background for UK celebrities as it does for American. Ethnic background for joe public isnt something that people want to discuss or be seen to be discussing, especially if it is 4th or 5th i migrant background.

Her sister looks very different, which indicates mixed ancestry in the past popping up, being from east London especially the area which has seen immigration for hundreds of years. East London, and Essex (where many east Londoners have moved to in the last 20 years) is a lot more mixed than anywhere else.

Could pass in east med I guess

[Davystayn]

Has a similar look to Michelle Keegan, from Coronation Street, who has Gibraltan and southern Italian ancestry

[Benyzero]

Only her pigmentation is med

[Voskos]

That's more of a Mexican face.

[Arap Cumali]

he would pass as Turkish or Greek or Cypriot in east med. not arab.

[Immanenz]

Has a similar look to Michelle Keegan, from Coronation Street, who has Gibraltan and southern Italian ancestry

No not really- they look not much alike.
Op has like her sister a rather negativ canthal tilt, while Keegann has on contrary a positive one, and slightly slented eyes. Tan is very similar of course.

Woman are not good parameters espcially because they use heavy make up and tan etc

I chose models to portray Iranian look in contrast (however models are imo not great indicators) Nr. 2 can pass in Southeuro, others are too Eastern
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[Davystayn]

I guess colouring is only similar yes. Melanie Sykes is another example from Manchester, her mother is Anglo Indian

[Sebastianus Rex]

No, looks a dark Brit.

[Immanenz]

well, Melanie Sykes def. has some Central /South east Asian influence, certainly a foreigner in most of Europe
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[Davystayn]

Suzi Perry is an example of a native dark Brit, this lady looks she has other ancestry probably from way back, her surname isn't brit either

[Immanenz]

Suzi Perry is an example of a native dark Brit, this lady looks she has other ancestry probably from way back, her surname isn't brit either

she does not look off for North/Centraleuro in a broader sense but i found her ex husband Nick Knowles to have an Armenoid influenced pheno

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[Davystayn]

I never knew they were married! Yes he does look a bit in that photo, just had a look and he is from Southall, so another Londoner.

Suzi Perry is from Shropshire originally, one of the border counties with Wales

[Avicenna]

She was born in Havering which is north London ( tottenham area, so not typical east London /barking /essex. Even so , she could possibly have recent Greek or Turkish Cypriot ancestry since the majority AFAIK reside in those areas. Does not look fully ethnic English .

[Latinus]

If I saw her in Brazil without being aware of her origins, I would think she is a regular Brazilian female.

She blend in better among us than with a group of British tourists, her people.

[Gonzalort]

She would pass some much better in south italy than in england

[Mixdguy17]

I am sorry but to me that she looks dark brit is bullshit, she passes muchhhh better in the south of Europe than she does in England.

[MobyD]

Bump

[Latinus]

I am sorry but to me that she looks dark brit is bullshit, she passes muchhhh better in the south of Europe than she does in England.

Yeah, I don't think she looks dark Brit, but a Med region type. If OP said she is Italian, for example, no one would claim she looks dark Brit.

[MobyD]

I am sorry but to me that she looks dark brit is bullshit, she passes muchhhh better in the south of Europe than she does in England.

People are biased when they know the person’s ethnicity or nationality.

[Mixdguy17]

People are biased when they know the person’s ethnicity or nationality.

Exactly I was just about to add this. Just shows how revealing your origin or nationality, incredibly diminishes your chances of getting a just classification.

[Mixdguy17]

Yeah, I don't think she looks dark Brit, but a Med region type. If OP said she is Italian, for example, no one would claim she looks dark Brit.

Exactly, I think she could even pass as Iberian.

[MobyD]

Exactly I was just about to add this. Just shows how revealing your origin or nationality, incredibly affects your chances of getting a just classification.

Even if I don’t post their ethnicity or nationality, anyone can click open the picture to read their name in URL-address.

[Tooting Carmen]

She was born in Havering which is north London ( tottenham area, so not typical east London /barking /essex. Even so , she could possibly have recent Greek or Turkish Cypriot ancestry since the majority AFAIK reside in those areas. Does not look fully ethnic English .

Yeah actually, I have to say that quite a few reality TV stars in particular do have odd and exotic phenotypes. Not sure why though.

[Luso]

maybe an unpopular opinion... but she looks like her "uber north west European" sister just with darker features that are associated with southern Europe.

Look one example:
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/3e/50/6b/3e506b57adbf1afda22727d176a4e5e6.jpg

That is literally all. The people putting her in the mixed category probs don't understand that genetics don't always = pheno and this is a great example. Yes... there can be dark brits.

[Mixdguy17]

maybe an unpopular opinion... but she looks like her "uber north west European" sister just with darker features that are associated with southern Europe.

Look one example:
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/3e/50/6b/3e506b57adbf1afda22727d176a4e5e6.jpg

That is literally all. The people putting her in the mixed category probs don't understand that genetics don't always = pheno and this is a great example.

I completely agree with u. It's so bizarre though, in this pic u can clearly see the Similarities in them as in facial feature and structure, but for some reason I think she looks south european in most pics and the sis could pass in all of South/ North Western Europe.

[Luso]

I completely agree with u. It's so bizarre though, in this pic u can clearly see the Similarities in them as in facial feature and structure, but for some reason I think she looks south european in most pics and the sis could pass in all of South/ North Western Europe.

Yeah pigmentation +hair color/eye color can rlly give the impression that they are from different parts of Europe. All of this despite having the same ancestry and similar structured faces. It is very interesting.

[MobyD]

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[Ellethwyn]

With her tan i guess she'd pass:P, but she looks British to me.


https://cdn.onebauer.media/one/media/5ea0/5d34/090a/6356/2e9c/4c3e/lucy-mecklenburgh-house.jpg

https://www.hellomagazine.com/imagenes/fashion/celebrity-style/20210708117058/lucy-mecklenburgh-new-look-summer-edit/0-566-754/lucy-meck-rose-t.jpg

[Richmondbread]

As far as I know she is 100% English descent. Her name is Lucy Mecklenburgh and she's from East London if that means anything...
https://keyassets-p2.timeincuk.net/wp/prod/wp-content/uploads/sites/30/2018/04/Lucy-Mecklenburgh.jpg
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn%3AANd9GcS34hLtELnVC7-rySCmOcFJoQGEu79TxqOw3is2ppE9fmy0mivP&usqp=CAU
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/83/4b/69/834b693bd7e7bb76dc383485ee8df530.jpg
https://www.hellomagazine.com/imagenes/profiles/lucy-mecklenburgh/6045-lucy-mecklenburgh.jpg
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/03/21/article-2586582-1C7A807500000578-338_634x809.jpg
https://www.echo-news.co.uk/resources/images/2599522/
https://www.newsshopper.co.uk/resources/images/2135351.jpg
https://i2-prod.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/incoming/article17834297.ece/ALTERNATES/s615/1_Mum-to-be-Lucy-Mecklenburgh-gives-fans-a-tour-of-her-super-organised-nursery.jpg


She looks Dark British, which is a lot like Dark Irish -possibly influenced by Spanish invaders, or just Darker hair. But her skin is not as fair as most. In short, she looks Welsh.
Edit: She probably also has some Greek in her. There are quite a few Greeks in the UK.

[NSXD60]

East Indian ancestry could be hidden in unsophisticated pre web days, but nowadays we feel incredulous when looking at their photos that anyone could have believed that a swarthy Boris Karloff (William Henry Pratt) was unmixed.

[Grace O'Malley]

Mecklenburg isn't a British surname. There is no detailed information about her background so it is anyone's guess about whether she is fully English or not.

[NSXD60]

Sounds pseudo Jewish but nothing more than that.

[hurtuv]

You may have seen this but on wikipedia entries it never gives ethnic background for UK celebrities as it does for American. Ethnic background for joe public isnt something that people want to discuss or be seen to be discussing, especially if it is 4th or 5th i migrant background.

Her sister looks very different, which indicates mixed ancestry in the past popping up, being from east London especially the area which has seen immigration for hundreds of years. East London, and Essex (where many east Londoners have moved to in the last 20 years) is a lot more mixed than anywhere else.

Could pass in east med I guess


Mecklenburg isn't a British surname. There is no detailed information about her background so it is anyone's guess about whether she is fully English or not.

Can you (or anyone else interested) post examples of what would be the utmost darkest/most tanned Brits, that are either confirmed to be 100% British or, if that is not known, you wouldn't doubt that they could probably be so?

[♥ Lily ♥]

she's from East London if that means anything...


East London is a very ethnically diverse and mixed place. There's lots of Turkish, Cypriot, Jewish, Arab, Asian, Caribbean, and many other mixtures of people live there.

https://www.ethnicity-facts-figures.service.gov.uk/uk-population-by-ethnicity/national-and-regional-populations/regional-ethnic-diversity/latest

[Grace O'Malley]

Can you (or anyone else interested) post examples of what would be the utmost darkest/most tanned Brits, that are either confirmed to be 100% British or, if that is not known, you wouldn't doubt that they could probably be so?

I'll leave that to British people. Someone who lives there will know people that fit the bill. :)

[Tooting Carmen]

Dark Brits usually look like these: https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?354415-Would-you-call-these-four-Englishmen-swarthy

Like I said in the thread, people darker than them are either just very atypical or (quite likely) mixed/non-native to varying degrees.