Activist: “Take Down ALL Images of Jesus: all murals and stained glass”

[The Lawspeaker]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CWZ6FPNNlLY

On Sunday's Youtube Livestream, I explained how activists would not stop at statues of Junípero Serra, but would soon call for the destructing and desecration of all religious images, but especially those of the cross and of Christ. Well, it happened faster than I expected. Monday, June 23, 2020, leader @ShaunnKing called for a new wave of iconoclasm that will include not only statues but also murals and stained glass. Will bishops resist or stand by as they storm churches, cathedrals, and museums with rocks, bricks, ropes, and spray paint?

[frankhammer]

A Black Lives Matter activist in the US has called for all statues of Jesus depicting him as a "white European" to be taken down, claiming that they are an expression of "white supremacy".

Shaun King took to Twitter to call for the radical action, writing: "Yes, I think the statues of the white European they claim is Jesus should also come down. They are a form of white supremacy. Always have been."

"In the Bible, when the family of Jesus wanted to hide, and blend in, guess where they went?" King asked.

"EGYPT! Not Denmark. Tear them down."

Statues across the US and the world have been targetted since the Black Lives Matter movement was fired up again by the killing of George Floyd.

Originally it was Confederate statues that were toppled, but the list has been expanded to include Union soldiers and other historical figures.

King doubled down on his initial statement in a series of tweets.

"Yes. All murals and stained glass windows of white Jesus, and his European mother, and their white friends should also come down," he said.

"They are a gross form of white supremacy. Created as tools of oppression. Racist propaganda. They should all come down."

King also stated: "If your religion requires Jesus to be a blonde-haired blue-eyed Jesus, then your religion is not Christianity, but white supremacy.


"Christian whiteness, not white Christianity, has been the primary religion of this country for hundreds of years."
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King faced a huge backlash for the comments.

"There is a long beautiful history of people depicting Jesus looking familiar to their place and culture," one person tweeted.

Another person said: "Taking down statues of slavers or war criminals and placing them in museums is one thing. Painting over murals and taking down stained glass windows is entirely another thing. You know who else tore down images they didn't agree with? The Taliban."

King said he received death threats after his comments, writing: "Received about 20 death threats in the past 12 hours since I said that statues of white European Jesus are a tool of oppression for white supremacy and should be taken down."

He later returned to Twitter to reveal his history in the Church and saying that "Christian whiteness has ALWAYS been dangerous".

I am a practicing Christian.

I am an ordained minister and was a Senior Pastor for many years.

If my critiques of the white supremacy within the Christian world bother you to the point of wanting to kill me, you are the problem.

Christian whiteness has ALWAYS been dangerous.
— Shaun King (@shaunking) June 23, 2020

[Davystayn]

Is this a joke, jesus a white supremacist? Ffs

Which religious leader owned slaves? Jesus, the buddha?

[Rocinante]

Is this a joke, jesus a white supremacist? Ffs

Which religious leader owned slaves? Jesus, the buddha?

All i know is that Jesus was R1b, this is a true fact. Jesus was white.

[renaissance12]

Jesus was caucasian ...he was born in the craddle of civilization.....

[renaissance12]

Before the arabic invasion palestinians were 100% caucasian

[Ülev]

Częstochowa is safe
Black Madonna of Częstochowa (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Madonna_of_Cz%C4%99stochowa)

[Rocinante]

If his father was God his Y-DNA is supposed to be different from all of us. But his mother was human so you would have to look at his mtDNA (?)

Jesus was R1b, period.

[InfamousAngel99]

Obsessed..
XD

Don't bother. Your logic will not break through his need to associate his haplogroup with Jesus, lmao.

[Rocinante]

Don't bother. Your logic will not break through his need to associate his haplogroup with Jesus, lmao.

I´m kidding, best regards and nice avatar.

PD: Givec stop giving me thumbs down randomly.

[InfamousAngel99]

I´m kidding, best regards and nice avatar.

PD: Givec stop giving me thumbs down randomly.

You never know on this platform, lol. Thank you, and you as well.

[brian321]

In the first pic he looks like if he were R1b-Z2103, in the second pic... E-V13.

He was probably j2 not r1 lol

[Rocinante]

He was probably j2 not r1 lol

Being honest... J1 suits better.

...But still, my heart tells me that he is R1b.

[Sebastianus Rex]

Oh boy...:picard2:

Actually good, becomes ever more evident their complete lunacy, they are repelling christians and moderates with their blatant racism.

[Kamal900]

:picard2:

First, they wanted to destroy the pyramids of Giza, and now they want to erase images of Jesus Christ? Just fucking lol. I guess these idiots don't get that Jesus was a Jew, but he may or may not have looked like a white person though like Bashar for example, so there's that. I mean, if Blacks in the US wanted to revert back to Voodoo or Joo-joo of Africa then they're more than welcome to do that. It would be Liberia 2.0 in the US.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZRuSS0iiFyo

[The Lawspeaker]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IXfYp0Br4vw

[alnortedelsur]

The only thing left for these bunch of lunatic idiots from BLM is to call directly for white genocide.

They deserve to be legally proscrit for being clearly Marxist, anti American, for domestic terrorism, vandalism, arson, for being anti-white, anti patriotic, and for sedition.

[Loki]

I am a practicing Christian.

I am an ordained minister and was a Senior Pastor for many years.

If my critiques of the white supremacy within the Christian world bother you to the point of wanting to kill me, you are the problem.

Christian whiteness has ALWAYS been dangerous.
— Shaun King (@shaunking) June 23, 2020

What the....if he's a Christian, my name is Michael Jackson. And he's fully, 100% possessed of the devil. His god's name is Satan. And this guy has technically broken laws with his hate speech incitement to crime publically. He should be arrested and given no bail.

[alnortedelsur]

He was probably j2 not r1 lol

He probably had same or similar haplogroup as mine xD

[koinovskiduckling]

More proof that this is a communist agenda. Christianity and communism cannot go together.

[Morena]

Nah tbh... I wouldn't mind this cause Jesus obv did not look like the western propaganda look he is associated with today- blue eyes, blonde hair. It is pretty retarded people actually think he looked like a North Western European.

He probs looked like this:

https://imageproxy.themaven.net//https%3A%2F%2Fwww.history.com%2F.image%2FMTYyMjczM TA2Njc1NzA1NjEy%2Fjesus-his-life_promo_ikj_ep6_10262018_jsm_1198.jpg

people say he looks like this from studies, which I'd say seem scientifically accurate in terms of physical features and appearances of his home region:

https://www.newstatesman.com/sites/default/files/styles/cropped_article_image/public/blogs_2015/12/jesus_reconstruction.jpg?itok=mexuJvBj

Study (https://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/forensic-facial-expert-reconstructs-jesus-christs-face-using-ancient-skulls-a6772926.html)
Don't fall for that exagerated nonsense. First of all, that was taken from one skull primarily. I remember the original study years ago. You know how diverse phenotypes can be within a region.

Second, the idea that Jesus is usually portrayed as some blond haired Nordic type is an absolute exagerration. We actually get our depiction of Jesus from the Byzantines, from this image in particular:
https://mybyzantine.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/christ-icon_1960143f.jpg Look at the most famous pictures and images of Jesus throughout the ages and you'll see him portrayed as a brunette with brown eyes.

More proof that this is a communist agenda. Christianity and communism cannot go together.
Because they both (the hatred and the communism) stem from the same rotten branch.

[The Lawspeaker]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E7M3ZOGuCZQ

[Mixdguy17]

Before the arabic invasion palestinians were 100% caucasian

Could u elaborate on this? I would love to learn more of this.

[Luso]

In my Grandma's house that was the image she had of him as well, almost all pictures were the northern depiction, I wonder why that happens but oh well. When I picture I picture him just like ChildofMud showed him as.

Yep. The most common depictions are of this:

https://mybyzantine.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/christ-icon_1960143f.jpg

and this:


https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn%3AANd9GcR_UHxaeElhF9JY6LxMCgp8MkyWalF IVEmZIA&usqp=CAU

I'd say the 1st one is the most accurate by far if we are talking logically and scientifically.

[Mixdguy17]

Yep. The most common depictions are of this:

https://mybyzantine.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/christ-icon_1960143f.jpg

and this:


https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn%3AANd9GcR_UHxaeElhF9JY6LxMCgp8MkyWalF IVEmZIA&usqp=CAU

I'd say the 1st one is the most accurate by far if we are talking logically and scientifically.

I agree, it would be no surprise if he really did look like the first picture, its not a bad educated guess.

[Teutone]

Nah tbh... I wouldn't mind this cause Jesus obv did not look like the western propaganda look he is associated with today- blue eyes, blonde hair. It is pretty retarded people actually think he looked like a North Western European.

He probs looked like this:

https://imageproxy.themaven.net//https%3A%2F%2Fwww.history.com%2F.image%2FMTYyMjczM TA2Njc1NzA1NjEy%2Fjesus-his-life_promo_ikj_ep6_10262018_jsm_1198.jpg

people say he looks like this from studies, which I'd say seem scientifically accurate in terms of physical features and appearances of his home region:

https://www.newstatesman.com/sites/default/files/styles/cropped_article_image/public/blogs_2015/12/jesus_reconstruction.jpg?itok=mexuJvBj

Study (https://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/forensic-facial-expert-reconstructs-jesus-christs-face-using-ancient-skulls-a6772926.html)

You are such a bastard I cant believe it.

Take down any public image of Jesus or support it you are a enemy.

I hope people that try this die painfully.

Man this forum is filled with some Euro cucks that moved to the US thinking they are cosmopolitan.

[Smeagol]

people say he looks like this from studies, which I'd say seem scientifically accurate in terms of physical features and appearances of his home region:

https://www.newstatesman.com/sites/default/files/styles/cropped_article_image/public/blogs_2015/12/jesus_reconstruction.jpg?itok=mexuJvBj

First of all, no, this guy is too old to be Jesus. Second, this is how ancient Middle Easterners depicted Jesus:
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4a/Spas_vsederzhitel_sinay.jpg

Looks like a Mediterranean white person to me.

[Luso]

First of all, no, this guy is too old to be Jesus. Second, this is how ancient Middle Easterners depicted Jesus:
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4a/Spas_vsederzhitel_sinay.jpg

Looks like a Mediterranean white person to me.

I agree, he probably did look something like that.

[Dr_Maul]

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Maronite Christians are probably a good modern day example of what he looked like, although he may have been slightly lighter than them. I'd say he looked like a modern day Greek but slightly darker and more levantine

[Creoda]

I agree with you he probably looked east med oriented... but like I said here in America... and now in EU many have made the depiction of Jesus as follows:

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn%3AANd9GcR_UHxaeElhF9JY6LxMCgp8MkyWalF IVEmZIA&usqp=CAU


THIS is literally what people think he looked like. Why do I think this phenotypical change happens? Well North West euros probably generated this themselves, just like how African-americans and africans love to say Jesus was black lmao. Both wrong. He probably had olive skin, brown/black hair, and brown eyes-- the most common features of his place of origin. However, in the smallest chance he did look like an outlier in his population... idk what to say... it is possible, useless for me to debate anyway it is like a 1% of 99% chance.
The first realistic depictions of Jesus as light haired and very Euro looking, and the basic depiction we still recognise, came from Italian renaissance art in the 14th and 15th centuries, not from Northern Europeans.

Masaccio
https://i.pinimg.com/736x/3a/78/a6/3a78a661c74bb65f8ff18e3dc90d38c6--pictures-of-jesus-the-renaissance.jpg
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a1/Masaccio_011.jpg

Ghirlandaio
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/bd/b3/75/bdb37520c02df8ca7990552f2f8424a0.jpg

Bergognone
https://www.scross.co.za/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/christ-risen_Bergognone1.jpg

Giotto
https://i0.wp.com/www.wga.hu/art/g/giotto/padova/3christ/chris212.jpg

Piero della Francesca
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b0/Baptism-christ.jpg

Mantegna
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a1/Kristus_som_den_lidende_frelser.jpg

Florentine mosaic, c.1300
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b8/Florentinischer_Meister_um_1300_001.jpg

Leonardo
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/5c/Leonardo_da_Vinci%2C_Salvator_Mundi%2C_c.1500%2C_o il_on_walnut%2C_45.4_%C3%97_65.6_cm.jpg

[Luso]

The first realistic depictions of Jesus as light haired and very Euro looking, and the basic depiction we still recognise, came from Italian renaissance art in the 14th and 15th centuries, not from Northern Europeans.


Italians always loved the lighter phenotypes, I mean germanics kings were meta to them :thumb001:

[Luso]

You are such a bastard I cant believe it.

Take down any public image of Jesus or support it you are a enemy.

I hope people that try this die painfully.

Man this forum is filled with some Euro cucks that moved to the US thinking they are cosmopolitan.


Haha, calm down man. I don't think they should take them down but this rlly isn't that deep... I understand different cultures and peoples depict Jesus differently. At first, the Italians made him North West looking and many people still do, on the other hand other people see him as dark hair, dark eyes, and euro caucasian looking (most accurate depiction) then Africans make him black, etc etc. it's perception no one truly knows what he looked like for 100% certainty.

[Mixdguy17]

First of all, no, this guy is too old to be Jesus. Second, this is how ancient Middle Easterners depicted Jesus:
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4a/Spas_vsederzhitel_sinay.jpg

Looks like a Mediterranean white person to me.

I think this is a good representation imo. Do u know the name of that piece?

[Smeagol]

I think this is a good representation imo. Do u know the name of that piece?

It's the oldest known Christ Pantocrator Icon.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christ_Pantocrator_(Sinai)

[Teutone]

Haha, calm down man. I don't think they should take them down but this rlly isn't that deep... I understand different cultures and peoples depict Jesus differently. At first, the Italians made him North West looking and many people still do, on the other hand other people see him as dark hair, dark eyes, and euro caucasian looking (most accurate depiction) then Africans make him black, etc etc. it's perception no one truly knows what he looked like for 100% certainty.

The catholic church allows Koreans to display him as Korean, why?

Cause that helps to rely with him and his phenotype is no important topic to ANY christian.

I dont think Jesus was blonde ofc not, God knew his son had to be born in Israel at that specific time and his gospel spread around the world.

What Shaun King wants is to tear down the images of our lord and it still sounds to me in ur first post, that you support it.

[AmeriCanadian]

Figures. I finally find Jesus but past the time when it was okay to be Christian. Always late to every party, I am. Eyeroll! Back to praying to God to save us from Marxist tripe and the CCP.

[pompandy]

Could u elaborate on this? I would love to learn more of this.

Modern palestinians have like 10% of Subsaharan blood, also their have liek 40% of Arabian or North African blood
Palestinian

Sidon_BA,82.8
BedouinB,9.6
Ethiopia_4500BP,7.6

From a study: Near Eastern populations, correspondingly, the Southwest Asian/Caucasian component rises to ∼50% and the Arabian/North African cluster decreases to ∼20–30%, even in Palestinians (similar to the Samaritans and some of the Druze), highlighting their primarily indigenous origin, with the most extreme values for the Druze, carrying the Southwest Asian/Caucasian component at ∼80%

[pompandy]

Maronite Christians are probably a good modern day example of what he looked like, although he may have been slightly lighter than them. I'd say he looked like a modern day Greek but slightly darker and more levantine

I don't think that he was darker than average of modern Greeks, Jesus was a ENF/CHG, I think his CHG(peaks in Georgians) would make him at least in pair with them, also he and his people were mountain people that would make them "light", Israeli Arab Christians overlap genetically with Cypriots, so I would say he was most likely like a Cypriot
https://www.cfa.com.cy/images/NewsImages/MA_04615.jpg

[Loki]

Modern palestinians have like 10% of Subsaharan blood, also their have liek 40% of Arabian or North African blood
Palestinian

Sidon_BA,82.8
BedouinB,9.6
Ethiopia_4500BP,7.6

From a study: Near Eastern populations, correspondingly, the Southwest Asian/Caucasian component rises to ∼50% and the Arabian/North African cluster decreases to ∼20–30%, even in Palestinians (similar to the Samaritans and some of the Druze), highlighting their primarily indigenous origin, with the most extreme values for the Druze, carrying the Southwest Asian/Caucasian component at ∼80%

Just remember modern Palestinians are not genetically identical to people who lived there 2,000 years ago. Subsaharan blood likely introgressed over the years, and would have been much less 2000 years ago, if not absent.

[pompandy]

Just remember modern Palestinians are not genetically identical to people who lived there 2,000 years ago. Subsaharan blood likely introgressed over the years, and would have been much less 2000 years ago, if not absent.

Yeah, also a study from this year found that Central Levantines were from 14% to even someones being mostly Greek/Anatolian DNA, like in the V Century before Jesus. So Western Central Levant(Galilee) was not only lesser Subsaharan and without Arab blood like modern Palestinians but They also had a "lot" of Southeast European/Anatolian ancestry. Basically they were indistinguishable from modern Cypriots and also close to Anatolians and some Greek Islanders.

[RodGol]

Another crazy and evil anarchist who hates christianity.

[NSXD60]

Commies want you to worship them, not religion, no competitors allowed.

[Loki]

.. and here we find BLM/Antifa's ultimate and real goal: uprooting Christianity along with the Christian people, who are traditionally European and white. This is clearly an agenda forged in hell, orchestrated by the devil himself. We are told in the Bible that in the last days these things would happen. Fortunately we also know who has the final victory.. and it isn't them :)