MyHeritage Top Population Matches and G25, Gedmatch etc

[Grace O'Malley]

MyHeritage Top Population Matches and my G25 and Gedmatch does correlate. Which is interesting. I'm wondering if this is true for others on here?

Here's MyHeritage top matches as of today.

https://i.imgur.com/dlCGyK2.png

I've cut out the US because I wanted to show my European Top Matches. It does tie in to my G25 results and Gedmatch. Of course all the countries I'm closest to are neighbouring populations so it makes sense and also these countries have all had history with each other. I've looked at some of these matches just for example the Norwegians are actually Norwegians and not Irish immigrants. You have to do this just to make sure they aren't immigrants because MyHeritage matches on where they live not their ethnicity. My top Norwegian matches are for example Isaksen, Moe, Hauge and Møller; Danes are Neilsen, Hansen, Engelsted and Kristensen etc. Swedes are Samuelsson, Kvick, Norin and Kristiansson and French are Louis, Lienard, Clergeot and Rysenbry. So you have to check the surnames and you can also check their trees if they are available. Some of these matches would be old but it is still interesting getting these populations.

I'm posting G25 here but could also post Gedmatch results. This is using full modern averaged population sheet.

Target: Grace_scaled
Distance: 1.6927% / 0.01692718
50.2 Irish
45.6 Icelandic
2.6 Swedish
1.0 Adygei
0.6 Cossack_Kuban

Closest Populations.

Distance to: Grace_scaled
0.01875615 Irish
0.01914452 Icelandic
0.01963632 Scottish
0.01980300 Orcadian
0.02206228 English
0.02219810 Welsh
0.02336456 Norwegian
0.02454052 English_Cornwall
0.02458960 Dutch
0.02493577 Shetlandic
0.02530066 Danish
0.02678893 Swedish
0.02758167 French_Brittany
0.03333011 German
0.03777837 Afrikaner
0.04070340 Belgian
0.04111373 French_Seine-Maritime
0.04124589 French_Pas-de-Calais
0.04377645 German_East
0.04383614 French_Nord
0.04754192 Austrian
0.04759052 French_Alsace
0.04761548 French_Paris
0.04816810 Czech
0.05029695 Swiss_German

Using the Modern single population data sheet this is my result.

Target: Grace_scaled
Distance: 0.6708% / 0.00670784
46.0 Irish
29.8 Dutch
12.8 Norwegian
9.6 Swedish
1.8 Basque_Spanish

So it all lines up really. My results might be more straight forward as I'm of only one ethnicity but I wonder how this stacks up for others?

[Grace O'Malley]

If people don't have G25 they can use these handy calculators.

http://vahaduo.genetics.ovh/

This is my Eurogenes K13 for example. Updated version.

Target: Grace
Distance: 1.7339% / 1.73387774
50.8 Norwegian
47.2 Scottish
2.0 Tabassaran

Distance to: Grace
3.13561796 North-Dutch
3.36795190 Irish
3.82745346 Norwegian
3.93558128 Scottish
4.10454626 West_Scottish
4.15441933 Orcadian
4.69176939 English_North
5.07089736 English
5.43862115 English_Midlands
5.93609299 North_German
5.96929644 Danish
6.82215508 Southeast_English
6.87663435 Southwest_English
6.94936688 Welsh
7.66868959 Swedish
8.38923715 German_West
11.47678091 South_Dutch
12.51677275 West_German
14.64530300 North-Swedish
16.64330196 Swiss_German
17.25885859 Austrian
17.37054115 East_German
17.99318204 French
19.05357447 German_east
19.96832993 Swiss_French

Eurogenes K15 also updated version.

Target: Grace
Distance: 2.7629% / 2.76288358
52.8 Irish
25.8 West_Scottish
18.8 Danish
2.2 Chechen
0.2 Estonian
0.2 Karitiana

Distance to: Grace
3.43841533 Irish
3.56359369 West_Scottish
4.18270248 North_Dutch
4.85860062 Scotland
4.98057226 Dutch
5.13658447 England
5.30019811 English_North
5.38257373 Welsh
5.48894343 Orcadian
5.68003521 Southeast_English
5.89959321 North_German
5.98392012 Danish
6.01364282 English_Midlands
7.47078309 Southwest_English
7.89285753 Swedish
7.95506757 Norway
8.40683056 Norwegian
8.72043004 West_Norwegian
9.69024767 North_Swedish
9.74426498 Belgium
11.19828558 South_Dutch
12.49219356 West_German
12.66127166 North_Swedish
13.07521319 German_Bavarian
15.38981481 Aland_Sweden

It all seems pretty consistent to me.

[J. Ketch]

Sort of...

MyHeritage


Irish, Scottish, and Welsh
80.6%
Scandinavian
19.4%

Country Number of matches
USA 3,803
Great Britain 1,107
Australia 390
Ireland 235
Canada 159
New Zealand 143
Norway 70
Netherlands 51
Germany 48
France 46
Sweden 44
Denmark 26
South Africa 23
Switzerland 13
Spain 11
Finland 11
Austria 9
Belgium 5


G25


Target: Creoda_scaled
Distance: 1.7022% / 0.01702151
77.8 Orcadian
13.4 Icelandic
8.6 English_Cornwall
0.2 Luo

Distance to: Creoda_scaled
0.01721798 Orcadian
0.01847653 Scottish
0.01967844 Irish
0.02087370 English
0.02090097 English_Cornwall
0.02218451 Icelandic
0.02279147 Welsh
0.02385523 Shetlandic
0.02385536 Dutch
0.02661904 Danish
0.02685711 French_Brittany
0.02758923 Norwegian
0.03035571 Swedish
0.03378111 German
0.03515967 Afrikaner
0.03846818 Belgian
0.04137301 French_Seine-Maritime
0.04150325 German_East
0.04256961 French_Nord
0.04289187 French_Pas-de-Calais
0.04510575 French_Paris
0.04544095 French_Alsace
0.04773904 Austrian
0.04789676 Swiss_German
0.05116708 Czech


K13 updated


Target: Creoda
Distance: 2.0267% / 2.02671602 | ADC: 0.25x
74.8 West_Scottish
25.2 North-Dutch

Distance to: Creoda
2.31613903 West_Scottish
3.05762980 Irish
3.12019230 Scottish
3.17458659 Orcadian
3.71848087 North-Dutch
4.77682949 English_North
4.87370496 English
5.02555470 English_Midlands
5.04546331 Southwest_English
5.25994297 Southeast_English
5.53094929 Norwegian
6.72308709 Welsh
7.24511560 Danish
8.06740355 North_German
8.87363511 Swedish
9.76641695 German_West
11.79990254 South_Dutch
13.19798469 West_German
16.76869405 North-Swedish
17.32742624 Swiss_German
17.67723960 French
19.01615103 Austrian
19.09527952 East_German
20.66949443 Swiss_French
21.08048624 German_east

[Grace O'Malley]

Sort of...

MyHeritage


Irish, Scottish, and Welsh
80.6%
Scandinavian
19.4%

Country Number of matches
USA 3,803
Great Britain 1,107
Australia 390
Ireland 235
Canada 159
New Zealand 143
Norway 70
Netherlands 51
Germany 48
France 46
Sweden 44
Denmark 26
South Africa 23
Switzerland 13
Spain 11
Finland 11
Austria 9
Belgium 5


G25


Target: Creoda_scaled
Distance: 1.7022% / 0.01702151
77.8 Orcadian
13.4 Icelandic
8.6 English_Cornwall
0.2 Luo

Distance to: Creoda_scaled
0.01721798 Orcadian
0.01847653 Scottish
0.01967844 Irish
0.02087370 English
0.02090097 English_Cornwall
0.02218451 Icelandic
0.02279147 Welsh
0.02385523 Shetlandic
0.02385536 Dutch
0.02661904 Danish
0.02685711 French_Brittany
0.02758923 Norwegian
0.03035571 Swedish
0.03378111 German
0.03515967 Afrikaner
0.03846818 Belgian
0.04137301 French_Seine-Maritime
0.04150325 German_East
0.04256961 French_Nord
0.04289187 French_Pas-de-Calais
0.04510575 French_Paris
0.04544095 French_Alsace
0.04773904 Austrian
0.04789676 Swiss_German
0.05116708 Czech


K13 updated


Target: Creoda
Distance: 2.0267% / 2.02671602 | ADC: 0.25x
74.8 West_Scottish
25.2 North-Dutch

Distance to: Creoda
2.31613903 West_Scottish
3.05762980 Irish
3.12019230 Scottish
3.17458659 Orcadian
3.71848087 North-Dutch
4.77682949 English_North
4.87370496 English
5.02555470 English_Midlands
5.04546331 Southwest_English
5.25994297 Southeast_English
5.53094929 Norwegian
6.72308709 Welsh
7.24511560 Danish
8.06740355 North_German
8.87363511 Swedish
9.76641695 German_West
11.79990254 South_Dutch
13.19798469 West_German
16.76869405 North-Swedish
17.32742624 Swiss_German
17.67723960 French
19.01615103 Austrian
19.09527952 East_German
20.66949443 Swiss_French
21.08048624 German_east


I think it is consistent. I have a good understanding of my genetics and also Ireland and Britain in general. Your results are obviously of a person with long ancestry in that part of the world like myself.

[J. Ketch]

Mother's:

My Heritage


Scandinavian
45.9%
Irish, Scottish, and Welsh
45.6%
East European
7.3%
West Asian
1.2%


USA 4,157
Great Britain 1,574
Australia 369
Canada 216
New Zealand 197
Netherlands 104
Germany 97
Norway 93
France 88
Ireland 86
Sweden 81
Denmark 37
Spain 21
Finland 13
Belgium 12
Switzerland 12
South Africa 11
Austria 8
Italy 6


G25


Target: CreodaMum_scaled
Distance: 1.5412% / 0.01541249
46.0 Welsh
36.0 Norwegian
6.4 Slovakian
6.4 Spanish_Soria
2.8 Cossack_Kuban
2.4 Darginian

Target: CreodaMum_scaled
Distance: 1.5617% / 0.01561731 | ADC: 0.25x
56.2 Welsh
31.0 Norwegian
7.2 Slovakian
3.0 Spanish_Soria
1.4 Cossack_Kuban
1.2 Darginian

Distance to: CreodaMum_scaled
0.01886201 Welsh
0.02002575 Dutch
0.02105966 Scottish
0.02114182 English
0.02167288 Orcadian
0.02183018 Norwegian
0.02203865 Irish
0.02218829 Shetlandic
0.02288413 French_Brittany
0.02406696 English_Cornwall
0.02451632 German
0.02504237 Icelandic
0.02747338 Swedish
0.02817213 Danish
0.02953259 Afrikaner
0.03180125 Belgian
0.03353733 French_Pas-de-Calais
0.03544758 French_Seine-Maritime
0.03566017 French_Nord
0.03765100 Austrian
0.03848379 French_Paris
0.03877706 French_Alsace
0.03968895 German_East
0.04066228 Swiss_German
0.04332311 Czech


K13 updated


Target: CreodaMum
Distance: 1.2117% / 1.21166205 | ADC: 0.25x
67.4 English_Midlands
31.6 North_German
1.0 Kalash

Distance to: CreodaMum
2.16907815 English_North
2.55197962 English
2.84984210 English_Midlands
3.86297813 Orcadian
4.19584318 North-Dutch
4.28864781 Irish
4.42314368 Southeast_English
4.48811765 North_German
4.87687400 German_West
4.89385329 Scottish
5.14634822 Danish
5.31528927 West_Scottish
5.45214637 Southwest_English
5.58122746 Welsh
6.17797702 Norwegian
7.49685934 South_Dutch
8.12184708 Swedish
8.61499855 West_German
12.73592949 Swiss_German
14.01233028 Austrian
14.18824866 French
14.36254504 East_German
15.50458964 North-Swedish
15.85376296 Swiss_French
17.08486757 German_east

[J. Ketch]

Less consistent for my father

MyHeritage


Irish, Scottish, and Welsh
100%

USA 5,917
Great Britain 1,288
Ireland 655
Australia 574
Canada 304
New Zealand 202
Norway 97
Germany 79
Netherlands 73
Sweden 64
France 57
South Africa 35
Denmark 32
Spain 15
Switzerland 15
Finland 14
Austria 9
Belgium 8
Poland 5


G25

Target: CreodaDad_scaled
Distance: 2.1930% / 0.02193012
61.0 Orcadian
33.6 Icelandic
3.8 Lithuanian_PZ
1.4 Spanish_Pais_Vasco
0.2 Biaka

Target: CreodaDad_scaled
Distance: 2.2042% / 0.02204163 | ADC: 0.25x
64.8 Orcadian
33.2 Icelandic
2.0 Lithuanian_PZ

Distance to: CreodaDad_scaled
0.02309102 Orcadian
0.02408025 Icelandic
0.02433498 Scottish
0.02571521 Irish
0.02731585 English_Cornwall
0.02732138 English
0.02777504 Danish
0.02929440 Welsh
0.02977876 Shetlandic
0.03036280 Dutch
0.03200460 Norwegian
0.03236241 Swedish
0.03381089 French_Brittany
0.03827258 German
0.04038099 Afrikaner
0.04068452 German_East
0.04507231 Belgian
0.04534435 French_Seine-Maritime
0.04829674 French_Nord
0.04995815 French_Pas-de-Calais
0.05045440 Czech
0.05095683 French_Alsace
0.05112569 Austrian
0.05237664 French_Paris
0.05365251 Swiss_German

K13 updated


Target: CreodaDad
Distance: 2.8306% / 2.83061020
41.6 North-Dutch
32.6 West_Scottish
25.8 Norwegian

Distance to: CreodaDad
3.05722096 North-Dutch
4.15204769 Norwegian
4.24338308 Orcadian
4.34893090 West_Scottish
4.57659262 Irish
5.07071001 Scottish
5.49601674 English_North
5.92480379 English
6.17399385 Danish
6.30933435 Southeast_English
6.46283993 English_Midlands
6.96304531 Southwest_English
7.07838258 Swedish
7.33145961 North_German
8.57466034 Welsh
9.90538238 German_West
12.49791183 South_Dutch
13.67133863 West_German
14.95741956 North-Swedish
17.82479172 Swiss_German
18.31733605 East_German
18.49207127 Austrian
18.75358366 French
19.86180757 German_east
21.34172205 Swiss_French

K15 updated


Target: CreodaDad
Distance: 2.5785% / 2.57848214
84.2 West_Scottish
15.0 Aland_Sweden
0.8 French_Basque

Distance to: CreodaDad
3.47889350 West_Scottish
4.07015970 Irish
4.39600955 Scotland
5.19309156 England
5.30323486 North_Dutch
5.52201050 Dutch
5.53650612 Southeast_English
5.85234996 Welsh
5.92828812 English_North
6.07638050 Orcadian
6.27966560 English_Midlands
6.45900921 Danish
6.93729774 North_German
7.33559132 Southwest_English
7.79955127 Norway
7.88182086 Swedish
8.39184723 Norwegian
8.71631803 North_Swedish
8.99247463 West_Norwegian
10.42032629 Belgium
11.28809550 South_Dutch
12.01959650 North_Swedish
13.37866959 West_German
13.65449743 German_Bavarian
13.95304626 Aland_Sweden

[Grace O'Malley]

Less consistent for my father

MyHeritage


Irish, Scottish, and Welsh
100%

USA 5,917
Great Britain 1,288
Ireland 655
Australia 574
Canada 304
New Zealand 202
Norway 97
Germany 79
Netherlands 73
Sweden 64
France 57
South Africa 35
Denmark 32
Spain 15
Switzerland 15
Finland 14
Austria 9
Belgium 8
Poland 5


G25

Target: CreodaDad_scaled
Distance: 2.1930% / 0.02193012
61.0 Orcadian
33.6 Icelandic
3.8 Lithuanian_PZ
1.4 Spanish_Pais_Vasco
0.2 Biaka

Target: CreodaDad_scaled
Distance: 2.2042% / 0.02204163 | ADC: 0.25x
64.8 Orcadian
33.2 Icelandic
2.0 Lithuanian_PZ

Distance to: CreodaDad_scaled
0.02309102 Orcadian
0.02408025 Icelandic
0.02433498 Scottish
0.02571521 Irish
0.02731585 English_Cornwall
0.02732138 English
0.02777504 Danish
0.02929440 Welsh
0.02977876 Shetlandic
0.03036280 Dutch
0.03200460 Norwegian
0.03236241 Swedish
0.03381089 French_Brittany
0.03827258 German
0.04038099 Afrikaner
0.04068452 German_East
0.04507231 Belgian
0.04534435 French_Seine-Maritime
0.04829674 French_Nord
0.04995815 French_Pas-de-Calais
0.05045440 Czech
0.05095683 French_Alsace
0.05112569 Austrian
0.05237664 French_Paris
0.05365251 Swiss_German

K13 updated


Target: CreodaDad
Distance: 2.8306% / 2.83061020
41.6 North-Dutch
32.6 West_Scottish
25.8 Norwegian

Distance to: CreodaDad
3.05722096 North-Dutch
4.15204769 Norwegian
4.24338308 Orcadian
4.34893090 West_Scottish
4.57659262 Irish
5.07071001 Scottish
5.49601674 English_North
5.92480379 English
6.17399385 Danish
6.30933435 Southeast_English
6.46283993 English_Midlands
6.96304531 Southwest_English
7.07838258 Swedish
7.33145961 North_German
8.57466034 Welsh
9.90538238 German_West
12.49791183 South_Dutch
13.67133863 West_German
14.95741956 North-Swedish
17.82479172 Swiss_German
18.31733605 East_German
18.49207127 Austrian
18.75358366 French
19.86180757 German_east
21.34172205 Swiss_French

K15 updated


Target: CreodaDad
Distance: 2.5785% / 2.57848214
84.2 West_Scottish
15.0 Aland_Sweden
0.8 French_Basque

Distance to: CreodaDad
3.47889350 West_Scottish
4.07015970 Irish
4.39600955 Scotland
5.19309156 England
5.30323486 North_Dutch
5.52201050 Dutch
5.53650612 Southeast_English
5.85234996 Welsh
5.92828812 English_North
6.07638050 Orcadian
6.27966560 English_Midlands
6.45900921 Danish
6.93729774 North_German
7.33559132 Southwest_English
7.79955127 Norway
7.88182086 Swedish
8.39184723 Norwegian
8.71631803 North_Swedish
8.99247463 West_Norwegian
10.42032629 Belgium
11.28809550 South_Dutch
12.01959650 North_Swedish
13.37866959 West_German
13.65449743 German_Bavarian
13.95304626 Aland_Sweden

It looks fairly consistent to me. Interesting on K13 that he also got North Dutch as no 1 like myself. From what I can see Irish will get Irish or something close like Scottish and a Scandinavian country. A lot of this is due to maintaining a slightly higher Bell Beaker level. English have some slightly more Southern pull which I'm hoping some genetic study one day can elaborate on. I'm wondering if it is some more Belgae input or Northern French i.e. Gauls in the past as Southern England is much closer to that part of the world. The same phenomenon is seen in the South Dutch. I'm sure you have some pretty good theories on that?

[J. Ketch]

It looks fairly consistent to me. Interesting on K13 that he also got North Dutch as no 1 like myself. From what I can see Irish will get Irish or something close like Scottish and a Scandinavian country. A lot of this is due to maintaining a slightly higher Bell Beaker level. English have some slightly more Southern pull which I'm hoping some genetic study one day can elaborate on. I'm wondering if it is some more Belgae input or Northern French i.e. Gauls in the past as Southern England is much closer to that part of the world. The same phenomenon is seen in the South Dutch. I'm sure you have some pretty good theories on that?
Sure, I think Southern England was very much Belgic, as was elaborated by Caesar. The main capital of the Kingdom of Wessex was Winchester, formerly Venta Belgarum. Southern Netherlands was Belgae territory as well.

XII.—The interior portion of Britain is inhabited by those of whom they say that it is handed down by tradition that they were born in the island itself: the maritime portion by those who had passed over from the country of the Belgae for the purpose of plunder and making war; almost all of whom are called by the names of those states from which being sprung they went thither, and having waged war, continued there and began to cultivate the lands. The number of the people is countless, and their buildings exceedingly numerous, for the most part very like those of the Gauls: the number of cattle is great. They use either brass or iron rings, determined at a certain weight, as their money. Tin is produced in the midland regions; in the maritime, iron; but the quantity of it is small: they employ brass, which is imported. There, as in Gaul, is timber of every description, except beech and fir. They do not regard it lawful to eat the hare, and the cock, and the goose; they, however, breed them for amusement and pleasure. The climate is more temperate than in Gaul, the colds being less severe.

XIV.—The most civilised of all these nations are they who inhabit Kent, which is entirely a maritime district, nor do they differ much from the Gallic customs. Most of the inland inhabitants do not sow corn, but live on milk and flesh, and are clad with skins.
The divide between the more Celtic/Gallic South and the more Beaker/native North/interior (plus Hibernia) is all there.

[J. Ketch]

I'm sure you've heard the theory as well about the Fir Bolg in Irish mythology being related to the Belgae. Could be coincidence, could be valid.

[Kyp]

South German (wit one Northern French ancestor):

USA
1.507
Germany
439
Great Britain
175
France
100
Netherlands
88
Sweden
85
Canada
62
Australia
55
Norway
54
Denmark
51
Austria
37
Switzerland
36
New Zealand
25
Czech Rep
22
Hungary
22
Ireland
19
Spain
12
Belgium
12
Poland
10
Finnland
10


No g25 unfortunately:

5.64333235 German_Bavarian
6.27780216 South_Dutch
6.52205489 North_German
6.82636799 Austria-Burgenland
6.95627055 East_German
8.14143108 Belgium
9.04780084 West_German
9.97098791 Southwest_English
9.99414328 Dutch
10.07683978 English_North
10.10708168 Austria-Tyrol
10.25261918 North_Dutch
10.26522284 Southeast_English
10.45768139 England
10.78555052 English_Midlands
10.82850405 French
10.97329030 Irish
10.98931299 Austrian
11.43613571 Czech
11.86719849 Hungarian
12.03392288 Danish
12.03786526 West_Scottish
12.06218886 Swedish
12.11340167 North_Swedish
12.14992181 Scotland


Distance to: Mother13
5.20588129 German_West
5.99438904 West_German
6.14463994 South_Dutch
6.33061608 Austrian
7.10468859 East_German
7.35611310 Swiss_German
8.19727394 North_German
8.74442680 Danish
9.44261616 English_North
9.57995303 English
10.14405737 Swiss_French
10.17086525 English_Midlands
10.26641612 Southeast_English
10.98442079 Swedish
11.24321573 Orcadian
11.27713616 German_east
11.38771268 North-Dutch
11.53743039 French
11.76141148 Welsh
11.92561356 Hungarian_Transdanubia
12.00084164 Southwest_English
12.17318775 Norwegian
12.34763945 Irish
12.54586385 Hungarian_Budapest
12.65812782 Croat_Croatia_Gorski_Kotar

I think there are a lot more UK people that tested than Dutch for example which causes some discrepencies.

[RyoHazuki]

Since so many white Americans (who are British and Irish) test, the populations are very tilted in their favor.

MyHeritage


Irish, Scottish, and Welsh
41.9%
Scandinavian
39.4%
Balkan
7.6%
Iberian
2.7%
Italian
1.0%
North African
6.1%
Nigerian
1.3%

Country Number of matches
USA
4,578
Great Britain
721
Australia
253
Canada
203
Ireland
117
Germany
104
New Zealand
104
Norway
83
France
76
Netherlands
73
Sweden
52
Denmark
34
Switzerland
26
Finland
22
Iceland
11
Belgium
10
Spain
9

G25


AVERAGE
Target: Ryo_scaled
Distance: 2.5853% / 0.02585286
52.4 Orcadian
33.6 English_Cornwall
9.2 Spanish_Asturias
1.8 Yemenite_Jew
1.6 German_East
0.4 Finnish
0.4 Ju_hoan_North
0.4 Sengwer
0.2 Ethiopian_Agaw

0.02938344 English_Cornwall
0.03018375 English
0.03070766 Orcadian
0.03171045 Scottish
0.03328919 Welsh
0.03391020 Dutch
0.03474354 French_Brittany
0.03498638 Irish
0.03537730 Afrikaner
0.03590789 Danish
0.03816967 Belgian
0.03836167 Shetlandic
0.03889071 German
0.03900142 Icelandic
0.03975137 French_Nord
0.04142096 French_Alsace
0.04271912 French_Seine-Maritime
0.04335415 Swiss_German
0.04360312 French_Paris
0.04424640 Swedish
0.04443804 Norwegian
0.04492454 French_Pas-de-Calais
0.04620065 German_East
0.04896195 Austrian
0.05087806 French_Occitanie


SINGLE
Target: Ryo_scaled
Distance: 1.2503% / 0.01250346
29.8 English
23.2 German
11.8 Dutch
8.2 English_Cornwall
7.8 Swedish
5.4 Belgian
5.2 Irish
4.4 Swiss_German
1.8 Spanish_Peri-Barcelona
1.6 Yemenite_Jew
0.4 Ju_hoan_North
0.4 Somali

0.02271212 English:England7
0.02291382 Afrikaner:AFR086
0.02294806 English:HG02215
0.02307623 English_Cornwall:HG00239
0.02387019 English_Cornwall:HG00252
0.02392240 Welsh:WalesBK33
0.02423326 German:German78
0.02469316 Orcadian:HGDP00798
0.02501703 French_Nord:N_22
0.02530712 Orcadian:HGDP00794
0.02589493 English:HG01789
0.02636242 Welsh:WalesDR84
0.02670334 Afrikaner:AFR035
0.02680616 Welsh:WalesBK54
0.02710688 German:German68
0.02719350 Orcadian:HGDP00796
0.02731851 Irish:Irish28
0.02740363 Scottish:Scottish21
0.02753344 Welsh:WalesL42
0.02844032 English_Cornwall:HG00261
0.02852403 Orcadian:HGDP00799
0.02919751 English_Cornwall:HG00253
0.02936654 Scottish:Scottish19
0.02949521 French_Brittany:Rennes_B_78
0.02950183 Afrikaner:AFR022

K13


Target: Ryo
Distance: 3.2952% / 3.29515175
84.4 West_Scottish
4.4 Spanish_Aragon
3.4 French_Basque
3.2 Moroccan_Jew
2.0 Southeast_English
1.6 Yemenite_Jewish
0.6 Ethiopian_Wolayta
0.4 Ethiopian_Ari_cultivator

4.70237174 Southeast_English
4.93260580 Southwest_English
5.76226518 English_Midlands
5.93808892 English
6.05247883 Scottish
6.10727435 West_Scottish
6.21905941 Orcadian
6.33000790 English_North
6.85022627 Irish
7.48521209 Welsh
8.12773031 North-Dutch
8.78212958 South_Dutch
9.20420556 German_West
10.10323216 North_German
10.11117204 Danish
10.27584060 West_German
10.61839442 Norwegian
12.80155850 French
12.86071926 Swedish
13.94329229 Swiss_German
16.99918527 Swiss_French
17.87650973 AostaValley
18.51589857 Austrian
19.51944159 East_German
19.85867065 Spanish_Cataluna

[gixajo]

ALL my parents and my coincidences by country.

Me


País Número de coincidencias
Estados Unidos
186
España
149
Francia
82
Gran Bretaña
15
Suecia
13
Brasil
12
Alemania
10
Suiza
10
México
10
Chile
8
Portugal
7
Canadá
7
Holanda
6
Australia
6
Dinamarca
6
Colombia
5
Noruega
4
Bélgica
3
Argentina
3
Luxemburgo
2
Italia
2
Bahrein
1
Nueva Zelanda
1
Guatemala
1
Puerto Rico
1
Martinica
1
Hungría
1
Austria
1
Filipinas
1
República Checa
1
Rusia
1
Marruecos
1
Costa Rica
1

My Father.


País Número de coincidencias
Estados Unidos
182
España
113
Francia
102
Gran Bretaña
18
Brasil
13
México
13
Alemania
10
Suecia
10
Suiza
8
Noruega
8
Canadá
6
Holanda
4
Portugal
4
Australia
4
Bélgica
4
Nueva Zelanda
4
Finlandia
3
Colombia
3
Puerto Rico
3
Italia
3
Chile
3
Emiratos Árabes Unidos
1
Dinamarca
1
Austria
1
Ucrania
1
Groenlandia
1
Luxemburgo
1
Israel
1
Irlanda
1
Argentina
1

My mother.


País Número de coincidencias
Estados Unidos
344
España
189
Francia
125
Gran Bretaña
40
Alemania
24
Holanda
18
Brasil
16
Dinamarca
15
Australia
13
Noruega
13
Suecia
13
México
12
Canadá
12
Chile
11
Nueva Zelanda
7
Suiza
7
Bélgica
7
Portugal
7
Colombia
6
Austria
4
Argentina
4
Irlanda
4
Uruguay
2
Venezuela
2
Finlandia
2
Emiratos Árabes Unidos
2
Italia
2
Panamá
1
Kenya
1
República Checa
1
Bahrein
1
Martinica
1
Perú
1
Guadalupe
1

[RyoHazuki]

ALL my parents and my coincidences by country.

Me



My Father.



My mother.

Notice you have countries not even exceeding 200 people

[Chris596]

How can I see this list? I see the countries but I don't have a list like this one.

[gixajo]

Notice you have countries not even exceeding 200 people

yeah, Could we guess the only that get so many coincidences are those from Anglo countries, because till now you have made more tests than any others?

[gixajo]

How can I see this list? I see the countries but I don't have a list like this one.

Go to "Overview" and go down the page, you will see the list soon at the right.

[gixajo]

Strange, my hungarian coincidence is actually Hungarian,

https://i.imgur.com/QOWdgHt.png

Edit:better an screen capture, the text is confusing.

Re-edit: i delete this too: "we have in common some from my little Northwestern Europe related component..."

[Chris596]

Okay, here's mine :) Some of my results are misleading because most of my matches are obviously not Germanic or Anglo-Saxon people. Most of my closest matches from the USA, Canada, UK, Germany, Australia etc. are either South Slavs, Romanians or Albanians, or Russians with also Central Asian roots, etc.

USA 528
Germany 181
Great Britain 74
France 71
Sweden 70
Canada 61
Hungary 57
Romania 43
Finland 35
Switzerland 34
Ukraine 33
Russia 30
Poland 30
Austria 24
Netherlands 23
Australia 22
Norway 21
Denmark 20
Belgium 17
Czech Republic 16
Israel 13
Greece 13
Italy 11
Latvia 9
Slovakia 8
Ireland 8
Brazil 7
Croatia 6
Spain 5
Slovenia 4
Chile 3
Lithuania 3
Turkey 3
United Arab Emirates 3
New Zealand 3
North Macedonia 2
Belarus 2
Luxembourg 2
Albania 1
Monaco 1
Serbian 1 (the irony)
Hong Kong 1
Armenia 1
Bulgaria 1
Cyprus 1
Thailand 1
Japan 1
Montenegro 1
Estonia 1

In total I have 2,028 DNA matches right now.

Eurogenes K13

Target: Chris
Distance: 1.6962% / 1.69618767 | ADC: 0.25x
46.0 Serb_Croatia_Kordun&Banija
35.4 Romania_Moldavia_North
14.0 Croat_Croatia_Slavonia
3.2 Turk_Kardzhali-Alevi
0.8 She
0.4 Ukrainian_Belgorod
0.2 Bulgarian_Ruse

PuntDNAL K12 Modern (I also like this one)

Target: Chris
Distance: 1.1967% / 1.19671300 | ADC: 0.25x
31.6 Croatian
26.4 German_South
16.6 Belgian
13.8 Albanian
6.8 Nogai
2.8 Italian_Bergamo
1.0 Altaian
1.0 Yakut

https://i.imgur.com/qBqtOJv.png

[gixajo]

Okay, here's mine :) Some of my results are misleading because most of my matches are obviously not Germanic or Anglo-Saxon people. Most of my closest matches from the USA, Canada, UK, Germany, Australia etc. are either South Slavs, Romanians or Albanians, or Russians with also Central Asian roots, etc.

USA 528
Germany 181
Great Britain 74
France 71
Sweden 70
Canada 61
Hungary 57
Romania 43
Finland 35
Switzerland 34
Ukraine 33
Russia 30
Poland 30
Austria 24
Netherlands 23
Australia 22
Norway 21
Denmark 20
Belgium 17
Czech Republic 16
Israel 13
Greece 13
Italy 11
Latvia 9
Slovakia 8
Ireland 8
Brazil 7
Croatia 6
Spain 5
Slovenia 4
Chile 3
Lithuania 3
Turkey 3
United Arab Emirates 3
New Zealand 3
North Macedonia 2
Belarus 2
Luxembourg 2
Albania 1
Monaco 1
Serbian 1 (the irony)
Hong Kong 1
Armenia 1
Bulgaria 1
Cyprus 1
Thailand 1
Japan 1
Montenegro 1
Estonia 1

In total I have 2,028 DNA matches right now.

Eurogenes K13

Target: Chris
Distance: 1.6962% / 1.69618767 | ADC: 0.25x
46.0 Serb_Croatia_Kordun&Banija
35.4 Romania_Moldavia_North
14.0 Croat_Croatia_Slavonia
3.2 Turk_Kardzhali-Alevi
0.8 She
0.4 Ukrainian_Belgorod
0.2 Bulgarian_Ruse

PuntDNAL K12 Modern (I also like this one)

Target: Chris
Distance: 1.1967% / 1.19671300 | ADC: 0.25x
31.6 Croatian
26.4 German_South
16.6 Belgian
13.8 Albanian
6.8 Nogai
2.8 Italian_Bergamo
1.0 Altaian
1.0 Yakut

Please, see your Spanish coincidences, i am curious about them...

Imagine that one of those coincidences is...:eek:

[Chris596]

Please, see your Spanish coincidences, i am curious about them...

Imagine that one of those coincidences is...:eek:

:) apparently 4 of them have Spanish surnames and names! One is German / Germanic I suppose.

My top match: Shared DNA 0.3% (19.4‎ cM); 3rd cousin - distant cousin? It is uncertain whether this DNA Match is a distant relative, or is not related to you at all. This is based on the low size and number of shared DNA segments.

[gixajo]

:) apparently 4 of them have Spanish surnames and names! One is German / Germanic I suppose.

My top match: Shared DNA 0.3% (19.4‎ cM); 3rd cousin - distant cousin? It is uncertain whether this DNA Match is a distant relative, or is not related to you at all. This is based on the low size and number of shared DNA segments.

I was not thinking in me, but in your "distant cousin" irisSelene, that sent her saliva test from Spain.;)

i will see my mother´s and my father´s Irish coincidences surnames, probably they are Spaniards that are living there, or mixed people Spanish/irish.

[Chris596]

I was not thinking in me, but in your "distant cousin" irisSelene, that sent her saliva test from Spain.;)

i will see my mother´s and my father´s Irish coincidences surnames, probably they are Spaniards that are living there, or mixed people Spanish/irish.

Ohh haha :D With her I share even less DNA, maybe this is why she's not there? Btw my Turkish matches all have Turkish names, my match from Hong Kong has a Chinese surname too (Qin), it makes sense I guess.

[gixajo]

1 Spaniards, 1 Spaniard/Middle Eastern adn 1 Irish/Spaniard ( Philips 66.6% irish 33.4 Iberian) and 1 Irish/Irish (Lynch 99.2% Irish )

[gixajo]

Ohh haha :D With her I share even less DNA, maybe this is why she's not there? Btw my Turkish matches all have Turkish names, my match from Hong Kong has a Chinese surname too (Qin), it makes sense I guess.

All of our middle eastern coincidences are SouthAmericans or Spanish 100%,and 1 50% Spanish and 50% Middle Eastern. Even the Israeli coincidence is more than 90% Iberian, my mother has one coincidence in Kenya who is...French.

[Chris596]

WTF - I just compared my shared ancestry with one of my Turkish matches:

Greek and South Italian (Me: 0%) (My match: 62.6%).


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNIeQDP37Nc

[gixajo]

All of them have a maximun coincidence of 0.3 %,this is a very low confidence relation...

With 5 generation distance my mother have 1.7% coincidence with another woman and with the same woman, +1 generation distance to me... 0.7%.

This relation is true, because I find our common ancestor in my tree.

[Chris596]

One of my Russian match: Mongolian (Me: 0% according to Myheritage but I get this result on other sites), My match: 0.5%

????

So Myheritage is really lying sometimes. Our shared ancestry is not even from the Balkans or East Europe...

I want answers lol

[JamesBond007]

MyHeritage Top Population Matches and my G25 and Gedmatch does correlate. Which is interesting. I'm wondering if this is true for others on here?

Here's MyHeritage top matches as of today.

I've cut out the US because I wanted to show my European Top Matches. It does tie in to my G25 results and Gedmatch. Of course all the countries I'm closest to are neighbouring populations so it makes sense and also these countries have all had history with each other. I've looked at some of these matches just for example the Norwegians are actually Norwegians and not Irish immigrants. You have to do this just to make sure they aren't immigrants because MyHeritage matches on where they live not their ethnicity. My top Norwegian matches are for example Isaksen, Moe, Hauge and Møller; Danes are Neilsen, Hansen, Engelsted and Kristensen etc. Swedes are Samuelsson, Kvick, Norin and Kristiansson and French are Louis, Lienard, Clergeot and Rysenbry. So you have to check the surnames and you can also check their trees if they are available. Some of these matches would be old but it is still interesting getting these populations.

I'm posting G25 here but could also post Gedmatch results. This is using full modern averaged population sheet.

Target: Grace_scaled
Distance: 1.6927% / 0.01692718
50.2 Irish
45.6 Icelandic
2.6 Swedish
1.0 Adygei
0.6 Cossack_Kuban

Closest Populations.

Distance to: Grace_scaled
0.01875615 Irish
0.01914452 Icelandic
0.01963632 Scottish
0.01980300 Orcadian
0.02206228 English
0.02219810 Welsh
0.02336456 Norwegian
0.02454052 English_Cornwall
0.02458960 Dutch
0.02493577 Shetlandic
0.02530066 Danish
0.02678893 Swedish
0.02758167 French_Brittany
0.03333011 German
0.03777837 Afrikaner
0.04070340 Belgian
0.04111373 French_Seine-Maritime
0.04124589 French_Pas-de-Calais
0.04377645 German_East
0.04383614 French_Nord
0.04754192 Austrian
0.04759052 French_Alsace
0.04761548 French_Paris
0.04816810 Czech
0.05029695 Swiss_German

Using the Modern single population data sheet this is my result.

Target: Grace_scaled
Distance: 0.6708% / 0.00670784
46.0 Irish
29.8 Dutch
12.8 Norwegian
9.6 Swedish
1.8 Basque_Spanish

So it all lines up really. My results might be more straight forward as I'm of only one ethnicity but I wonder how this stacks up for others?

Well, maybe the 'Irish' are one ethnicity but countries such as England and France were not as isolated. Someone who is a mix of English, Irish, and German, like myself , can come out English more or less thanks to the smelting of Saxon and Celt in middle England. Anyway, I don't think it makes sense to do the whole breakdown with this so much as it does to compare the myheritage list to single populations. Anyway, what do you mean by southern shifted for the 'English' ? My number one G25 population is Dutch but my second is Norwegian and I get midlands English with K13 and K15 so I think Southern England is even more Southern shifted than Northern England and the midlands of England. So in my case Eurogenes K13 and Eurogenes K15 correlate more with myheritage results than G25. Anyway, geez , you making work on this one, eh ? I am getting to work here :P :

American is not an ethnicity so my highest match is Britain even Australian is more of an ethnicity than 'American' , nowadays, so it is Britain for me. I think Dutch and British can easily be confused by these kind of calculators since those populations are so closely related :

https://i.postimg.cc/1zjhwGfd/kevin.png

G25 :

0.02865262 Dutch
0.02966312 Norwegian
0.03097093 Welsh

Dutch and Spanish mean the Southern Shift you were talking about here ?

Target: Kevin_scaled
Distance: 2.3973% / 0.02397250 | ADC: 0.25x
72.6 Norwegian
14.4 Spanish_Soria
11.6 Dutch
1.4 Tajik_Shugnan

Grace I'm not taking these number one populations from Eurogenes K13 and K15 from my signature because it's pain in the ass to do the whole thing over again :


Vahaduo Eurogenes K15 :
Distance to: Kevin
2.37520525 English_Midlands

Vahaduo Eurogenes K13:
Distance to: Kevin
3.56908952 English_Midlands

[Chris596]

One of my Russian match: Mongolian (Me: 0% according to Myheritage but I get this result on other sites), My match: 0.5%

????

So Myheritage is really lying sometimes. Our shared ancestry is not even from the Balkans or East Europe...

I want answers lol

Can someone explain this to me? For real.

[Kyp]

Can someone explain this to me? For real.

How do you know that you share Mongolian DNA with him? It's probably just on the Slavic part. Also 0.5% is not much.

[Grace O'Malley]

I was not thinking in me, but in your "distant cousin" irisSelene, that sent her saliva test from Spain.;)

i will see my mother´s and my father´s Irish coincidences surnames, probably they are Spaniards that are living there, or mixed people Spanish/irish.

Yes it's important to look at the surnames because as I've said earlier your MyHeritage matches might be just based in those countries and not necessarily natives.

For example I have 20 matches in Spain but they are all ex-pats.

These are the surnames - Sullivan, Pearson, Witherow, Herring, Conroy, Macaskie, Yates, Bourne, Hayers, Ruth, One just has S with no surname, Eklund, Brooks, Kell, Costello, O'Hara, Cronyn, Carnell, Griffin, Levine

So not a Spanish surname among them.

Finland I have 19 and these are the surnames - Cunningham (non-Finnish), Santamäki, Eloranta, Kotanen-McMann (looking at their tree Finnish with some Irish), Kairavuo, Koivuniemi, Pahlman, Sandi (no surname but they have English and Irish names in their tree), Valtere, Nesbitt (Irish or British), Liljedal, Korpela, Horrox (non-Finnish), Stevenson (mixed British-Finnish), Vallius, Kääriä, Nevala-Virtanen, Poussu, Honkanen

The people with Finnish surnames appear fully Finnish looking at their trees.

So it can be a bit hit and miss. With Spain no native matches.

[Grace O'Malley]

Just looking at Switzerland I have 18 matches so I'm looking at where I don't have a large amount because I don't want to have to copy lots of names.

Surnames are Vocking, Cameron (obviously not Swiss), Spinnier, Kainz, Picci, Makwana, Nilsson, Halliday (obs Brit or Irish), McGregor, Quigley, Warner, Illi, Alizedah-Gruber, Dibsdale (3 of these obviously related), Loukili, Prinz

So some of these obviously not native.

[Chris596]

How do you know that you share Mongolian DNA with him? It's probably just on the Slavic part. Also 0.5% is not much.

There is a thing on the Myheritage website. For example, at every match that I have, it says from which region our shared ancestry comes from (So far I got Greek, South Italian and Mongolian as an ancestry but Myheritage says I don't have ancestry from these regions). Anyway, I think it detects a tiny percent but they didn't show it in my ancestry report? Literally on every other website it says that I have Balkan, South European, Northeast European, West, Central and East Asian ancestry. Except for Myheritage. Anyway it's weird.

They detect it but they don't show it?? I have some matches like this one

Here's the pic:

https://i.imgur.com/DWBx3aF.png

Pure Slavs don't have real Mongolian ancestry anyway.

[Grace O'Malley]

You can also check your matches ethnicity breakdown and see how they compare with you.

This is the first one I've checked and it is my first Norwegian match. What is odd is that we don't share any similar ethnicity. So odd isn't it?

https://i.imgur.com/lyQVWPS.png

And the next one I looked at the same.

https://i.imgur.com/OBqsBLk.png

How do they match me when we have different ethnicity breakdowns and what I match them on is Irish, Scottish and Welsh for me and yet it is labelled Scandinavian on their breakdown?

Can someone explain this? I've got an idea it could be due to smoothing but if anyone can explain it more thoroughly that would help us all?

One more I checked. Same situation.

https://i.imgur.com/fSvOGeS.png

[Kyp]

There is a thing on the Myheritage website. For example, at every match that I have, it says from which region our shared ancestry comes from (So far I got Greek, South Italian and Mongolian as an ancestry but Myheritage says I don't have ancestry from these regions). Anyway, I think it detects a tiny percent but they didn't show it in my ancestry report? Literally on every other website it says that I have Balkan, South European, Northeast European, West, Central and East Asian ancestry. Except for Myheritage. Anyway it's weird.

They detect it but they don't show it?? I have some matches like this one

Here's the pic:

https://i.imgur.com/DWBx3aF.png

Pure Slavs don't have real Mongolian ancestry anyway.

It could be if you don't share any ethnicity with him that it just picks it randomly. Coul be wrong though and maybe you are right.
Actually I asked the same question yesterday in this thread:

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?326515-Myheritage-user-question

[Chris596]

Again, this is one of my other Russian match:

https://i.imgur.com/Oz7kL8Q.png