G25 Balkan calculator attempt (based in ancient components)

[gixajo]

It´s my first Balkan calculator, surely I have made many mistakes, but to learn, you have to fail, and it is better to fail playing.:)

As always I say to you to be forgiving with me, and as always, you will not pay any attention to me.

Please,post at least one result with original sources( preferably two: ADD DIST COL:NO and 0.25X), don´t add or remove any source at least in this first posted result.

And please post the complete distance list.


SCALED

https://vahaduo.github.io/vahaduo/


Slavic:A,0.129758,0.116786,0.070899,0.060078,0.041 238,0.018965,0.009165,0.011307,0.001432,-0.017859,0.000487,-0.008093,0.014271,0.023809,-0.014658,-0.005834,0.00013,-0.002154,0.000628,-0.001251,-0.007986,-0.005812,0.012695,-0.010724,-0.005868
Slavic:B,0.133742,0.12948,0.073727,0.057494,0.0373 915,0.029144,0.0094,0.007269,0.004295,-0.018224,-0.001543,-0.006369,0.0102575,0.017753,-0.0138435,0.0007295,0.0002605,0.0034205,0.0055305, 0.001313,0,-0.002782,0.010846,-0.0069285,0.001736
Balkanic,0.1238396,0.1409554,0.0564928,0.0200906,0 .0395148,0.0080878,0.001128,0.0070612,0.0097354,0. 01108,-0.000195,-6e-05,0.0003566,0.001101,-0.007899,0.0036592,0.0052936,0.0019004,0.0029916,-0.0010502,-0.0036936,0.0001238,0.0003204,-0.0064104,-0.0055082
Germanic,0.1223596,0.1303939,0.061169,0.048773,0.0 39792,0.0199408,0.010975,0.0052151,0.0013295,-0.0024966,-0.003735,0.001109,-0.0091576,-0.0038398,0.0161643,-0.0008352,-0.0133511,0.0032684,0.0041354,0.0040271,0.0060019, 0.0037342,-0.0007273,0.011146,-0.0004429
Turkic:A,0.08992,0.060932,-0.009428,-0.032946,-0.022158,-0.013945,0.003055,0.006,-0.020861,-0.004009,-0.003573,0.000749,0.012636,0.002615,-0.001357,-0.001724,0.006519,0.006208,0.004148,-0.002001,-0.004617,0.001978,-0.002835,0.00012,-0.002036
Turkic:B,0.079107,-0.0741335,0.01829,-0.0075905,-0.043085,-0.0133865,0.0029375,0.000808,-0.010124,-0.012119,-0.00885,-0.0063695,-0.0057235,-0.0088075,0.0052255,0,0.007758,0.000887,-0.0018855,-0.000375,-0.0089845,-0.0004325,-0.0096135,-0.001747,0.0003595
Italic,0.125205,0.138112,0.030547,-0.010982,0.023081,-0.011713,0.002115,-0.001846,0.006954,0.021139,0.008119,0.005845,-0.011596,-0.000826,-0.007465,-0.01432,-0.011604,0.005194,0.002765,-0.00988,-0.009733,0.001607,-0.002465,0.003976,-0.005508
Levantine,0.0758823,0.147929,-0.0599623,-0.11402,-0.0056417,-0.0476903,-0.0108887,-0.013307,0.0336783,0.0075323,0.0157517,-0.0196823,0.041526,-0.0008717,-0.0031217,0.0228937,0.0018253,0.0010137,-0.0030583,0.0170917,0.0050743,0.011706,-0.0038617,0.0042577,-0.0071053

bildur naz :picard1:

[Dlav]

What is the components tho? I mean why they hidden?

[17571imre]

Target: mh_scaled
Distance: 1.5610% / 0.01561045
46.2 Balkanic
23.8 Eslavic
15.2 Italic
9.2 Germanic
3.4 Turkic
2.2 Levantine

Target: mh_scaled
Distance: 1.6167% / 0.01616746 | ADC: 0.25x
61.8 Balkanic
16.0 Eslavic
10.8 Italic
7.0 Germanic
4.4 Turkic

Distance to:
mh_scaled
0.02258198 Balkanic
0.05056315 Germanic
0.05910145 Eslavic:B
0.05972071 Italic
0.06341402 Eslavic:A
0.13524977 Turkic:A
0.20830949 Levantine
0.23640920 Turkic:B

[Coastal Elite]

Target: DacoCeltic_scaled
Distance: 2.3599% / 0.02359864
45.4 Germanic
29.4 Italic
21.6 Balkanic
3.6 Turkic:A

Target: DacoCeltic_scaled
Distance: 2.3700% / 0.02369987 | ADC: 0.25x
44.2 Germanic
29.8 Italic
24.0 Balkanic
2.0 Turkic:A

Distance to: DacoCeltic_scaled
0.03754565 Balkanic
0.04631012 Germanic
0.05642478 Italic
0.07331422 Eslavic:B
0.07984934 Eslavic:A
0.13427432 Turkic:A
0.21094113 Levantine
0.23426846 Turkic:B

[Dr_Maul]

Target: Dr.Maul_fromGedmatch
Distance: 6.6305% / 0.06630540
76.6 Turkic
23.4 Levantine

Over 75% Turkic... I have a sudden need to ride a horse for some reason

[Luke35]

Target: MrG_scaled
Distance: 1.8430% / 0.01843043
48.6 Germanic
24.6 Balkanic
10.2 Eslavic
9.4 Italic
7.2 Turkic

Target: MrG_scaled
Distance: 1.8707% / 0.01870654 | ADC: 0.25x
51.0 Germanic
33.8 Balkanic
6.4 Turkic
4.6 Italic
4.2 Eslavic

Distance to: MrG_scaled
0.03488542 Germanic
0.03602750 Balkanic
0.05856692 Eslavic:B
0.06481513 Eslavic:A
0.06840922 Italic
0.13744098 Turkic:A
0.21783459 Levantine
0.23223657 Turkic:B

[Luke35]

With just Germanic and Balkan in the Source.

Target: MrG_scaled
Distance: 2.2498% / 0.02249838
50.6 Germanic
48.2 Balkanic
1.2 Eslavic

Target: MrG_scaled
Distance: 2.2510% / 0.02251045 | ADC: 0.25x
51.4 Germanic
48.6 Balkanic

[Luso]

Target: Luso_fromGedmatch
Distance: 4.1637% / 0.04163656
38.6 Balkanic
35.6 Italic
16.0 Germanic
9.8 Levantine

[paradox]

Target: scaled
Distance: 2.6738% / 0.02673837
39.2 Italic
25.2 Eslavic
18.8 Levantine
10.4 Turkic
6.4 Balkanic

Target: scaled
Distance: 2.7653% / 0.02765341 | ADC: 0.25x
42.2 Italic
19.4 Balkanic
14.0 Levantine
12.4 Eslavic
12.0 Turkic

Distanceto:scaled
0.04634655 Italic
0.06550159 Balkanic
0.09876681 Germanic
0.10179477 Turkic:A
0.10836089 Eslavic:B
0.11034163 Eslavic:A
0.15894229 Levantine
0.22819584 Turkic:B


My father's

Target: Father_scaled
Distance: 2.1594% / 0.02159382
52.6 Italic
35.8 Eslavic
8.6 Levantine
3.0 Turkic

Target: Father_scaled
Distance: 2.2215% / 0.02221529 | ADC: 0.25x
60.4 Italic
31.6 Eslavic
5.2 Levantine
2.8 Turkic

Distanceto:Father_scaled
0.04077339 Italic
0.04698922 Balkanic
0.07543269 Germanic
0.08396197 Eslavic:B
0.08628389 Eslavic:A
0.11872849 Turkic:A
0.18517266 Levantine
0.23319251 Turkic:B

[Impaler]

Target: Impaler_scaled
Distance: 3.0494% / 0.03049367
36.0 Turkic
24.0 Balkanic
18.0 Germanic
9.2 Italic
6.4 Eslavic
6.4 Levantine

[Vojnik]

<tbody>
Distance to:
Vojnik_scaled


0.04275722
Italic


0.04657387
Balkanic


0.08359182
Germanic


0.09271881
Eslavic:B


0.09628375
Eslavic:A


0.11718904
Turkic:A


0.17524380
Levantine


0.23747177
Turkic:B

</tbody>


Target: Vojnik_scaled
Distance: 2.4575% / 0.02457466

32.2 Balkanic
32.2 Italic
19.0 Eslavic
13.6 Levantine
3.0 Turkic


<tbody>
Target: Vojnik_scaled
Distance: 2.5375% / 0.02537510 | ADC: 0.25x




48.2
Balkanic





31.8
Italic





9.4
Levantine





6.2
Eslavic





4.4
Turkic

</tbody>

[Vojnik]

Whats the source of the Balkanic sample for example?

[gixajo]

Target: gixajo_scaled
Distance: 4.4627% / 0.04462704
49.8 Balkanic
36.6 Italic
10.0 Germanic
3.6 Levantine

Target: gixajo_scaled
Distance: 4.4848% / 0.04484831 | ADC: 0.25x
54.8 Balkanic
41.6 Italic
3.0 Germanic
0.6 Levantine

Distance to: gixajo_scaled
0.05180903 Balkanic
0.05660143 Italic
0.07737419 Germanic
0.10768258 Eslavic:B
0.11189307 Eslavic:A
0.15155132 Turkic:A
0.19570306 Levantine
0.25474547 Turkic:B

[Kaspias]

Target: Kaspias_scaled
Distance: 2.5311% / 0.02531072
54.8 Turkic
39.0 Balkanic
6.2 Levantine

[gixajo]

What is the components tho? I mean why they hidden?

They are hidden, because there are people who instead of doing the calculators, just criticize the components that give them results that they do not like.

No calculator gives results that everyone likes, and if people avoid making calculators, because they will not like their results, there is no way of knowing how each component works when interacting with the other sources.

I do not care exactly who gives more Turkish or Levantine, I just want to see how the references work, but since here people use the results only to project the image of themselves that they want to project to others, it is difficult for everyone comply with the rules that the OP proposes.

The components are these:


Slavic:RUS_Sunghir_MA,0.129758,0.116786,0.070899,0 .060078,0.041238,0.018965,0.009165,0.011307,0.0014 32,-0.017859,0.000487,-0.008093,0.014271,0.023809,-0.014658,-0.005834,0.00013,-0.002154,0.000628,-0.001251,-0.007986,-0.005812,0.012695,-0.010724,-0.005868
Slavic:HUN_Avar_Szolad,0.133742,0.12948,0.073727,0 .057494,0.0373915,0.029144,0.0094,0.007269,0.00429 5,-0.018224,-0.001543,-0.006369,0.0102575,0.017753,-0.0138435,0.0007295,0.0002605,0.0034205,0.0055305, 0.001313,0,-0.002782,0.010846,-0.0069285,0.001736
Balkanic:Scythian_HUN,0.1238396,0.1409554,0.056492 8,0.0200906,0.0395148,0.0080878,0.001128,0.0070612 ,0.0097354,0.01108,-0.000195,-6e-05,0.0003566,0.001101,-0.007899,0.0036592,0.0052936,0.0019004,0.0029916,-0.0010502,-0.0036936,0.0001238,0.0003204,-0.0064104,-0.0055082
Germanic:DEU_MA,0.1223596,0.1303939,0.061169,0.048 773,0.039792,0.0199408,0.010975,0.0052151,0.001329 5,-0.0024966,-0.003735,0.001109,-0.0091576,-0.0038398,0.0161643,-0.0008352,-0.0133511,0.0032684,0.0041354,0.0040271,0.0060019, 0.0037342,-0.0007273,0.011146,-0.0004429
Turkic:TUR_IA,0.08992,0.060932,-0.009428,-0.032946,-0.022158,-0.013945,0.003055,0.006,-0.020861,-0.004009,-0.003573,0.000749,0.012636,0.002615,-0.001357,-0.001724,0.006519,0.006208,0.004148,-0.002001,-0.004617,0.001978,-0.002835,0.00012,-0.002036
Turkic:TUR_Ottoman,0.079107,-0.0741335,0.01829,-0.0075905,-0.043085,-0.0133865,0.0029375,0.000808,-0.010124,-0.012119,-0.00885,-0.0063695,-0.0057235,-0.0088075,0.0052255,0,0.007758,0.000887,-0.0018855,-0.000375,-0.0089845,-0.0004325,-0.0096135,-0.001747,0.0003595
Italic:ITA_Proto-Villanovan,0.125205,0.138112,0.030547,-0.010982,0.023081,-0.011713,0.002115,-0.001846,0.006954,0.021139,0.008119,0.005845,-0.011596,-0.000826,-0.007465,-0.01432,-0.011604,0.005194,0.002765,-0.00988,-0.009733,0.001607,-0.002465,0.003976,-0.005508
Levantine:Levant_JOR_EBA,0.0758823,0.147929,-0.0599623,-0.11402,-0.0056417,-0.0476903,-0.0108887,-0.013307,0.0336783,0.0075323,0.0157517,-0.0196823,0.041526,-0.0008717,-0.0031217,0.0228937,0.0018253,0.0010137,-0.0030583,0.0170917,0.0050743,0.011706,-0.0038617,0.0042577,-0.0071053

[gixajo]

How do I choose samples?

I took samples from different countries from modern averages pop datasheet and I run them in ancient averages, then I choose more usual references with less distances for every group of samples.

I am not any expert in Balkans (nor from any other European region), this calculator and the method I used to make the sourvces only pretend to be a first step to know more, I don´t pretend it to be a good calculator.

[gixajo]

Double.

[Vojnik]

Whats the source of the Balkanic sample for example?

[Defcon2]

Target: Juan_scaled
Distance: 5.2699% / 0.05269912
66.8 Italic
17.0 Balkanic
13.2 Germanic
3.0 Levantine

[Pedro Ruben]

Target: Pedro_scaled
Distance: 4.6920% / 0.04692041
34.4 Germanic
30.0 Italic
20.0 Balkanic
15.6 Levantine

[gixajo]

Whats the source of the Balkanic sample for example?

I already postd original sources in the post #15.

[Grace O'Malley]

I thought I would end up like this with the samples posted.

Target: Grace_scaled
Distance: 3.0489% / 0.03048875
100.0 Germanic

Anyway gixajo you are one of my favourite posters on here. So thank you for all your calculators. :hug2:

[JohnnyP]

What sample is under Turkic reference?

[gixajo]

Scythian_HUN :D

No Eslavic here lol

The distance is kinda higher

Target: Hulu
Distance: 3.8107% / 0.03810733
49.8 Italic
26.4 Balkanic
22.4 Levantine
1.4 Turkic


Gixajo can you pronounce S without E in front? The hispanics here have a hard time with it too, Escreen instead of Screen for example lol

I already have said how I have chosen references, if you don´t like them, you are free to post a calculator with your chosen references, but in a new tread, thanks.

Can´t you tell me I have written something wrongly in a different way? I will correct it now.

The distance is high because samples are taken from Ancient Averages, and they are few references in sources.

You can thank me, for having made a calculator for the people of the Balkans, without having much to do myself with that area of ​​Europe.:)

[Gallop]

Target: Gallop_scaled
Distance: 4.8755% / 0.04875461
46.8 Balkanic
31.8 Italic
14.0 Germanic
7.4 Levantine


Distance to: Gallop_scaled
0.05699108 Balkanic
0.05958917 Italic
0.08151249 Germanic
0.11169719 Eslavic:B
0.11555479 Eslavic:A
0.14457166 Turkic:A
0.19166764 Levantine
0.24661416 Turkic:B

[Ylla]

Target: Valentina_scaled
Distance: 3.7816% / 0.03781552
64.8 Italic
22.2 Balkanic
13.0 Levantine

[gixajo]

Relax man. Every time you respond it's like we're in a war or something. I understand the point of the thread or I wouldn't have run the calc . He asked you a question and you didn't respond directly, so I did, I did find it strange to have Scythian HUN represent Balkan but that's your choice. For the S it is humorous to me personally as it's common here as I said. And last, I think it's a weak calculator but I appreciate the effort that's why I participated on the thread, I don't have to thank you as this is for our mutual curiosity, I could have done without it.

Thanks for participating.:)

Which is the question I didn´t answer directly?

[gixajo]

source of the Balkanic sample

You need glasses.;)

See the #15 post, please.

[Jana]

Target: Feiichy_scaled
Distance: 3.0623% / 0.03062313
54.4 Balkanic
37.6 Slavic
8.0 Turkic

Target: Feiichy_scaled
Distance: 3.0738% / 0.03073834 | ADC: 0.25x
58.4 Balkanic
35.4 Slavic
6.2 Turkic

Target: Stears_scaled
Distance: 1.4592% / 0.01459233

47.6 Slavic
21.8 Germanic
18.8 Turkic
6.0 Italic
5.0 Balkanic
0.8 Levantine

Target: Stears_scaled
Distance: 1.4960% / 0.01496012 | ADC: 0.25x

42.2 Slavic
22.2 Germanic
18.6 Turkic
15.8 Balkanic
1.2 Italic

[gixajo]

See post wasn't a direct answer. You could have actually responded the question: Scythian HUN. That's what polite people do. And no, I don't need glasses.

I have already answered it too, read the thread from the beginning. You start in a bad way from the first post, and you are becoming more and more annoying with every post. i thought maybe I was to sensitive and that i could have been wrong but every answer from you is more and more insolent, so I think that i was right from the beginning.

I don´t know what is your problem, but I am not interested in arguing with you, if you had read the first thread it should have been clear to you..:)

Sorry, but just today, I have no patience to put up with you.:D

[gixajo]

@Hulu has deleted all his posts in this thread.:picard1:

Relax @Hulu.:thumb001:

It´s a pitty, I have finally found the patience to anwer him more directly, and being as "polite" as him.


As always I say to you to be forgiving with me, and as always, you will not pay any attention to me.


I took samples from different countries from modern averages pop datasheet and I run them in ancient averages, then I choose more usual references with less distances for every group of samples.


I am not any expert in Balkans (nor from any other European region), this calculator and the method I used to make the sources only pretend to be a first step to know more, I don´t pretend it to be a good calculator.


They are hidden, because there are people who instead of doing the calculators, just criticize the components that give them results that they do not like.


No calculator gives results that everyone likes, and if people avoid making calculators, because they will not like their results, there is no way of knowing how each component works when interacting with the other sources.


I add: if you don´t check them.


I do not care exactly who gives more Turkish or Levantine, I just want to see how the references work, but since here people use the results only to project the image of themselves that they want to project to others, it is difficult for everyone comply with the rules that the OP proposes.



Slavic:RUS_Sunghir_MA,0.129758,0.116786,0.070899,0 .060078,0.041238,0.018965,0.009165,0.011307,0.0014 32,-0.017859,0.000487,-0.008093,0.014271,0.023809,-0.014658,-0.005834,0.00013,-0.002154,0.000628,-0.001251,-0.007986,-0.005812,0.012695,-0.010724,-0.005868
Slavic:HUN_Avar_Szolad,0.133742,0.12948,0.073727,0 .057494,0.0373915,0.029144,0.0094,0.007269,0.00429 5,-0.018224,-0.001543,-0.006369,0.0102575,0.017753,-0.0138435,0.0007295,0.0002605,0.0034205,0.0055305, 0.001313,0,-0.002782,0.010846,-0.0069285,0.001736
Balkanic:Scythian_HUN,0.1238396,0.1409554,0.056492 8,0.0200906,0.0395148,0.0080878,0.001128,0.0070612 ,0.0097354,0.01108,-0.000195,-6e-05,0.0003566,0.001101,-0.007899,0.0036592,0.0052936,0.0019004,0.0029916,-0.0010502,-0.0036936,0.0001238,0.0003204,-0.0064104,-0.0055082
Germanic:DEU_MA,0.1223596,0.1303939,0.061169,0.048 773,0.039792,0.0199408,0.010975,0.0052151,0.001329 5,-0.0024966,-0.003735,0.001109,-0.0091576,-0.0038398,0.0161643,-0.0008352,-0.0133511,0.0032684,0.0041354,0.0040271,0.0060019, 0.0037342,-0.0007273,0.011146,-0.0004429
Turkic:TUR_IA,0.08992,0.060932,-0.009428,-0.032946,-0.022158,-0.013945,0.003055,0.006,-0.020861,-0.004009,-0.003573,0.000749,0.012636,0.002615,-0.001357,-0.001724,0.006519,0.006208,0.004148,-0.002001,-0.004617,0.001978,-0.002835,0.00012,-0.002036
Turkic:TUR_Ottoman,0.079107,-0.0741335,0.01829,-0.0075905,-0.043085,-0.0133865,0.0029375,0.000808,-0.010124,-0.012119,-0.00885,-0.0063695,-0.0057235,-0.0088075,0.0052255,0,0.007758,0.000887,-0.0018855,-0.000375,-0.0089845,-0.0004325,-0.0096135,-0.001747,0.0003595
Italic:ITA_Proto-Villanovan,0.125205,0.138112,0.030547,-0.010982,0.023081,-0.011713,0.002115,-0.001846,0.006954,0.021139,0.008119,0.005845,-0.011596,-0.000826,-0.007465,-0.01432,-0.011604,0.005194,0.002765,-0.00988,-0.009733,0.001607,-0.002465,0.003976,-0.005508
Levantine:Levant_JOR_EBA,0.0758823,0.147929,-0.0599623,-0.11402,-0.0056417,-0.0476903,-0.0108887,-0.013307,0.0336783,0.0075323,0.0157517,-0.0196823,0.041526,-0.0008717,-0.0031217,0.0228937,0.0018253,0.0010137,-0.0030583,0.0170917,0.0050743,0.011706,-0.0038617,0.0042577,-0.0071053

[gixajo]

I deleted because they took away attention from your thread. And there was no point arguing anymore, just different cultures I guess. I will delete this as well ;)

Is not a matter of different cultures.

[RyoHazuki]

Distance: 2.8458% / 0.02845777
85.4 Germanic
14.6 Italic

[RyoHazuki]

I recommend maybe a Baltic population?

[gixajo]

I recommend maybe a Baltic population?

Of course, and if @Hulu wants to offer me a different alternative for my awful Balkanic sample, I am always open to new suggestions, but if possible, a new one, and from ancient population datasheet.

Which reference do you think would be good from ancient populations datasheet and that is not usually used representing Baltic?

[RyoHazuki]

Of course, and if @Hulu wants to offer me a different alternative for my awful Balkanic sample, I am always open to new suggestions, but if possible, a new one, and from ancient population datasheet.

Which reference do you think would be good from ancient populations datasheet and that is not usually used representing Baltic?

I'm not sure, is Iron Age Baltic usually used?

[gixajo]

I'm not sure, is Iron Age Baltic usually used?

I don´t know, I did not choose the references by the name they have, if not because of their proximity to modern populations, I suppose that's why Hulu was laughing so much at my Balkan from Hungarian Scythians.

This one?


Baltic:EST_IA,0.12881,0.1064613,0.093903,0.0930778 ,0.0434952,0.0322583,0.0097137,0.0131533,0.0019773 ,-0.036356,0.0054128,-0.0121143,0.0222,0.0148862,-0.0057682,0.0081983,0.010474,-0.0006547,0.003289,0.011193,0.0060727,-0.00237,0.0028553,-0.0118087,-0.0021555

[Hulu]

I don´t know, I did not choose the references by the name they have, if not because of their proximity to modern populations, I suppose that's why Hulu was laughing so much at my Balkan from Hungarian Scythians.

This one?


Baltic:EST_IA,0.12881,0.1064613,0.093903,0.0930778 ,0.0434952,0.0322583,0.0097137,0.0131533,0.0019773 ,-0.036356,0.0054128,-0.0121143,0.0222,0.0148862,-0.0057682,0.0081983,0.010474,-0.0006547,0.003289,0.011193,0.0060727,-0.00237,0.0028553,-0.0118087,-0.0021555

lol. Given that Albanians lack Scythian, how can that be the ancient component for Balkan? That clearly came with Slavs who settled there after the 6th century.

p.s. I'd gladly suggest something but I am not familiar with the ancient samples and what else can you pick.

[gixajo]

For example, to choose a baltic sample I do this:

Run some modern nations from the area in ancient populations and see closest samples:

Distance to: Lithuanian_VA
0.02235777 KAZ_Golden_Horde_Euro
0.03208173 Baltic_EST_MA
0.03264681 HUN_Avar_Szolad
0.03284131 RUS_Sunghir_MA
0.03776399 Baltic_EST_IA

Distance to: Latvian
0.02702540 Baltic_EST_MA
0.02886930 Baltic_LTU_BA
0.02967001 RUS_Ingria_IA
0.03216440 Baltic_EST_IA
0.03235596 KAZ_Golden_Horde_Euro

Distance to: Estonian
0.02706677 Baltic_EST_MA
0.02843465 Baltic_EST_IA
0.03591167 RUS_Ingria_IA
0.03628348 KAZ_Golden_Horde_Euro
0.03764248 Baltic_LTU_BA

Distance to: Lithuanian_RA
0.02336749 KAZ_Golden_Horde_Euro
0.03172422 Baltic_EST_MA
0.03601888 RUS_Ingria_IA
0.03749295 RUS_Sunghir_MA
0.03796118 Baltic_EST_IA

And then choose.

In this case I would choose Baltic_EST_MA.


Baltic_EST_MA,0.129379,0.118817,0.0886237,0.091516 7,0.046778,0.0363487,0.013474,0.0148457,0.0040223,-0.0346857,-0.0089853,-0.0133377,0.0173437,0.02624,-0.003031,0.0135683,0.0149073,-0.0040963,0.0007963,-8.33e-05,0.0007073,0.001319,0.00493,0.0008433,-0.0006783

I am only trying to find for new paths, it seems that there are people who are bothered by it or can´t understand it and guess I am an idiot or an ignorant, and surely I am, even both things.;)

I am an stupid ignorant who try to innovate in what little he can.

[RyoHazuki]

I don´t know, I did not choose the references by the name they have, if not because of their proximity to modern populations, I suppose that's why Hulu was laughing so much at my Balkan from Hungarian Scythians.

This one?


Baltic:EST_IA,0.12881,0.1064613,0.093903,0.0930778 ,0.0434952,0.0322583,0.0097137,0.0131533,0.0019773 ,-0.036356,0.0054128,-0.0121143,0.0222,0.0148862,-0.0057682,0.0081983,0.010474,-0.0006547,0.003289,0.011193,0.0060727,-0.00237,0.0028553,-0.0118087,-0.0021555

Yeah I'd try it

[gixajo]

lol. Given that Albanians lack Scythian, how can that be the ancient component for Balkan? That clearly came with Slavs who settled there after the 6th century.

p.s. I'd gladly suggest something but I am not familiar with the ancient samples and what else can you pick.

Don't be afraid, you can propose another Balkan reference if you want, I don't know the ancient references well either, that's why I used the method I posted before, to fill that gap. You can imitate it, choose a sample that you think is suitable and we test it.

I knew beforehand that this calculator was easily criticized, that is not what can bother me, what bothers me are the forms of your first post. Your joke seemed in bad taste, considering that you and I do not know each other at all and that the environment does not favor that we understand well the intention of things like the ones you said.

[Kenshiro]

Target: Kenshiro_scaled
Distance: 3.2922% / 0.03292239
65.6 Italic
12.0 Levantine
11.8 Turkic:A
10.6 Balkanic

[djipon]

Target: djipon_scaled
Distance: 2.8700% / 0.02869955
42.6 Italic
31.8 Slavic
10.2 Levantine
9.6 Turkic
3.4 Germanic
2.4 Balkanic

[celticdragongod]

Distance to: CDG_scaled
0.02427956 Germanic
0.05952105 Balkanic
0.06508457 Slavic:B
0.07478766 Slavic:A
0.09143966 Italic
0.16517264 Turkic:A
0.24374081 Levantine
0.24900873 Turkic:B

Target: CDG_scaled
Distance: 2.4237% / 0.02423731
98.4 Germanic
1.6 Italic

[celticdragongod]

They are hidden, because there are people who instead of doing the calculators, just criticize the components that give them results that they do not like.

No calculator gives results that everyone likes, and if people avoid making calculators, because they will not like their results, there is no way of knowing how each component works when interacting with the other sources.

I do not care exactly who gives more Turkish or Levantine, I just want to see how the references work, but since here people use the results only to project the image of themselves that they want to project to others, it is difficult for everyone comply with the rules that the OP proposes.

The components are these:


Slavic:RUS_Sunghir_MA,0.129758,0.116786,0.070899,0 .060078,0.041238,0.018965,0.009165,0.011307,0.0014 32,-0.017859,0.000487,-0.008093,0.014271,0.023809,-0.014658,-0.005834,0.00013,-0.002154,0.000628,-0.001251,-0.007986,-0.005812,0.012695,-0.010724,-0.005868
Slavic:HUN_Avar_Szolad,0.133742,0.12948,0.073727,0 .057494,0.0373915,0.029144,0.0094,0.007269,0.00429 5,-0.018224,-0.001543,-0.006369,0.0102575,0.017753,-0.0138435,0.0007295,0.0002605,0.0034205,0.0055305, 0.001313,0,-0.002782,0.010846,-0.0069285,0.001736
Balkanic:Scythian_HUN,0.1238396,0.1409554,0.056492 8,0.0200906,0.0395148,0.0080878,0.001128,0.0070612 ,0.0097354,0.01108,-0.000195,-6e-05,0.0003566,0.001101,-0.007899,0.0036592,0.0052936,0.0019004,0.0029916,-0.0010502,-0.0036936,0.0001238,0.0003204,-0.0064104,-0.0055082
Germanic:DEU_MA,0.1223596,0.1303939,0.061169,0.048 773,0.039792,0.0199408,0.010975,0.0052151,0.001329 5,-0.0024966,-0.003735,0.001109,-0.0091576,-0.0038398,0.0161643,-0.0008352,-0.0133511,0.0032684,0.0041354,0.0040271,0.0060019, 0.0037342,-0.0007273,0.011146,-0.0004429
Turkic:TUR_IA,0.08992,0.060932,-0.009428,-0.032946,-0.022158,-0.013945,0.003055,0.006,-0.020861,-0.004009,-0.003573,0.000749,0.012636,0.002615,-0.001357,-0.001724,0.006519,0.006208,0.004148,-0.002001,-0.004617,0.001978,-0.002835,0.00012,-0.002036
Turkic:TUR_Ottoman,0.079107,-0.0741335,0.01829,-0.0075905,-0.043085,-0.0133865,0.0029375,0.000808,-0.010124,-0.012119,-0.00885,-0.0063695,-0.0057235,-0.0088075,0.0052255,0,0.007758,0.000887,-0.0018855,-0.000375,-0.0089845,-0.0004325,-0.0096135,-0.001747,0.0003595
Italic:ITA_Proto-Villanovan,0.125205,0.138112,0.030547,-0.010982,0.023081,-0.011713,0.002115,-0.001846,0.006954,0.021139,0.008119,0.005845,-0.011596,-0.000826,-0.007465,-0.01432,-0.011604,0.005194,0.002765,-0.00988,-0.009733,0.001607,-0.002465,0.003976,-0.005508
Levantine:Levant_JOR_EBA,0.0758823,0.147929,-0.0599623,-0.11402,-0.0056417,-0.0476903,-0.0108887,-0.013307,0.0336783,0.0075323,0.0157517,-0.0196823,0.041526,-0.0008717,-0.0031217,0.0228937,0.0018253,0.0010137,-0.0030583,0.0170917,0.0050743,0.011706,-0.0038617,0.0042577,-0.0071053

Distance to: CDG_scaled
0.02427956 Germanic:DEU_MA
0.05952105 Balkanic:Scythian_HUN
0.06508457 Slavic:HUN_Avar_Szolad
0.07478766 Slavic:RUS_Sunghir_MA
0.09143966 Italic:ITA_Proto-Villanovan
0.16517264 Turkic:TUR_IA
0.24374081 Levantine:Levant_JOR_EBA
0.24900873 Turkic:TUR_Ottoman

Target: CDG_scaled
Distance: 2.4237% / 0.02423731
98.4 Germanic:DEU_MA
1.6 Italic:ITA_Proto-Villanovan

[JerryS.]

I don't know what to make of it. What comprises Balkan with this one?

Target: JerryS_scaled
Distance: 2.6896% / 0.02689558
80.4 Germanic
15.6 Balkanic
2.0 Italic
2.0 Levantine

[cass]

Target: cass
Distance: 1.3161% / 0.01316064
61.0 Slavic
33.8 Germanic
5.2 Balkanic

Target: cass
Distance: 1.3219% / 0.01321919 | ADC: 0.25x
62.6 Slavic
33.4 Germanic
4.0 Balkanic

[Dušan]

Target: Dušan_scaled
Distance: 2.3032% / 0.02303202
52.4 Slavic
47.4 Italic
0.2 Levantine

[Dušan]

I don't know what to make of it. What comprises Balkan with this one?


:confused:


Distance to: Balkanic:Scythian_HUN
0.02589369 Austrian
0.02932214 French_Alsace
0.02958097 Montenegrin
0.03042547 Croatian
0.03093745 Serbian
0.03150500 Slovenian
0.03213569 German_Erlangen
0.03248661 Hungarian
0.03256459 French_Nord
0.03294116 Bosnian

[cass]

I don't know what to make of it. What comprises Balkan with this one?

Target: JerryS_scaled
Distance: 2.6896% / 0.02689558
80.4 Germanic
15.6 Balkanic
2.0 Italic
2.0 Levantine

IMO simplification of the model

Target: Spanish_Castile_and_Leon_Soria_(Castilian)
Distance: 5.3374% / 0.05337394
82.0 Balkanic
15.8 Italic
2.2 Levantine

[Beowulf]

Iberian added:

Target: Beowulf_Scaled
Distance: 1.5455% / 0.01545482
63.4 Iberian
18.0 Germanic
16.8 Balkanic
1.8 Turkic

[alexmegas777]

Distance to: alexmegas_scaled
0.03984249 Balkanic
0.04429126 Italic
0.07462274 Germanic
0.08459238 Slavic:B
0.08701556 Slavic:A
0.12482639 Turkic:A
0.18708113 Levantine
0.23756357 Turkic:B

Target: alexmegas_scaled
Distance: 2.6047% / 0.02604723
38.8 Italic
31.4 Balkanic
21.0 Slavic
8.2 Levantine
0.6 Turkic

[noricum]

Target: G25noricum_scaled
Distance: 2.2147% / 0.02214691
52.2 Slavic
27.0 Italic
20.8 Germanic

[Lemurian]

Target: Lemurian_scaled
Distance: 2.5109% / 0.02510861
45.6 Italic
23.0 Slavic
15.6 Balkanic
9.8 Turkic
6.0 Levantine

This one's kinda iffy... lot of people getting high distance too.