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Celto-Germanic
07-07-2020, 12:37 PM
What is the rarest european phenotype? Is it tydal?

Seya
07-07-2020, 12:48 PM
the finnic ones and the brunn, keltic types

IrisSelene
07-07-2020, 12:55 PM
maybe lappid and paleo sardianian

anaise
07-07-2020, 12:56 PM
Ladogan, Strandid, Tydal, Lapid.

Samnium
07-07-2020, 12:59 PM
maybe lappid and paleo sardianian

Lappid yes, it's the first phenotype I thought seeing this thread.

Voskos
07-07-2020, 01:00 PM
Caucasoid. Can only be found in Sardinia in its pure form.

IrisSelene
07-07-2020, 01:03 PM
Lappid yes, it's the first phenotype I thought seeing this thread.

i think i easily mistake lappid for a mix of other phenotypes lol i thought my grandma looked a bit lappid and others classified her as alpinid

They're definitely one of the least common

Immanenz
07-07-2020, 01:06 PM
Caucasoid. Can only be found in Sardinia in its pure form.

If you believe Europeans should be only basal- shifted Farmers, but thats not compatible with reality

Voskos
07-07-2020, 01:12 PM
If you believe Europeans should be only basal- shifted Farmers, but thats not compatible with reality

If Basal-shifted farmers (who weren't that basal-shifted in the first place) were there before, then they're the oldest Europeans after pure WHGs.

Immanenz
07-07-2020, 01:20 PM
If Basal-shifted farmers (who weren't that basal-shifted in the first place) were there before, then they're the oldest Europeans after pure WHGs.

Caucasoid does not mean oldest Euroepan however.

Celto-Germanic
07-07-2020, 01:20 PM
Brunn is rare?

Yamnaya
07-07-2020, 01:23 PM
For me the hungarian magyar, like chris

Immanenz
07-07-2020, 01:24 PM
Brunn is rare?

In pure form it is- like any Cm type. Faelid/Borreby are way more common, they are however admixed Cm-types. Its pretty over-used on anthrofroums imo.

Seya
07-07-2020, 01:26 PM
Brunn is rare?

in rare outside UK/Irland. and non-existent outside NW. it's def one of the rarest phenotype because it's isolated

Ülev
07-07-2020, 01:29 PM
Sundqvistoid

Benim
07-07-2020, 01:32 PM
Pure hallstatt forms imo, many of them are mixed with CM resulting in tronder,faelids etc...
Brünns are common in NW in their pure forms more than hallstatt I think.

Immanenz
07-07-2020, 01:42 PM
Pure hallstatt forms imo, many of them are mixed with CM resulting in tronder,faelids etc...


i agree on the Hallstatt type-actually thats one thing that came also to my mind. On one side they are either Keltic/North Atlantid shifted or have visible Cm admix therefor Troender or any other Nordo-Cm variant, or resemble more Corded in some metrical aspects. In Continentaleurope they have a slight Alpine/Dinaric admix

Norb
07-07-2020, 01:57 PM
'Pure unmixed' Hallstatt Nordic in my view, even rarer than Corded

IrisSelene
07-07-2020, 01:57 PM
For me the hungarian magyar, like chris

That's not that rare, it's alfold, and it's quite common at least in the hungarians and romanians from my area. My own family is full of that type of look...

Östsvensk
07-07-2020, 02:03 PM
Nordids.


Nowhere, however, are the pronounced (»pure») Nordic types more than a good few, the majority of the North European population surely showing mostly Nordic characters, but together with them some that are un-Nordic.

- The Racial Characters of the Swedish Nation, Herman Lundborg, p. 38

Terminator98
07-07-2020, 02:06 PM
Hallstatt and Gracile Med.

Daco Celtic
07-07-2020, 02:13 PM
https://i.imgur.com/rXhlDq7.gif

Immanenz
07-07-2020, 02:16 PM
Uralische

travv
08-15-2020, 08:16 AM
Those that exist on the geographical periphery of Europe. Brunn, Paleo-Atlantid in NW Europe, Uralid/Sub-Uralid in NE Europe. Pure Nordid type also can be rare everywhere in Europe.

Chris596
08-15-2020, 08:47 AM
Those that exist on the geographical periphery of Europe. Brunn, Paleo-Atlantid in NW Europe, Uralid/Sub-Uralid in NE Europe. Pure Nordid type also can be rare everywhere in Europe.

I agree with you. There are some similar types in my family but unfortunately I can't share pictures about them.

aherne
08-15-2020, 11:40 AM
Most Europeans can pass as any other European ethnicity (due to shared WHG/EHG+NF+Aryan ancestry). Rarest phenotypes are found among Northern Europeans: Uralic and its Scandinavian equivalent. Anyone that belongs to these phenotypes is unpassable in Southern Europe..

Tooting Carmen
08-15-2020, 11:43 AM
Most Europeans can pass as any other European ethnicity (due to shared WHG/EHG+NF+Aryan ancestry). Rarest phenotypes are found among Northern Europeans: Uralic and its Scandinavian equivalent. Anyone that belongs to these phenotypes is unpassable in Southern Europe..

I am not sure. If anything far Southern Europe has more phenotypes that are rare if not non-existent further North than the other way round: Gracile Meds, Berids, South Meds, East Meds, occasional Armenoids.

Universe
08-15-2020, 11:45 AM
Any peripherally european types: exotic southern italians(such as Paul Malignaggi), blond mongols from northern and eastern europe (such as Mika Hakkinen) etc.

Rocinante
08-15-2020, 11:48 AM
Any peripherally european types: exotic southern italians(such as Paul Malignaggi), blond mongols from northern and eastern europe (such as Mika Hakkinen) etc.

Us sicilians have european and MENA blood, we might look strange but some of us could pass in other european places, but i admit that most of us could pass in Syria or Lebanon. I am proud of it.

Universe
08-15-2020, 11:49 AM
Us sicilians have european and MENA blood, we might look strange but some of us could pass in other european places, but i admit that most of us could pass in Syria or Lebanon. I am proud of it.

People are obsessed with sicilians but as far as I know Calabrians are more MENA shifted genetically (despite geography)

Gota_type_
08-15-2020, 11:54 AM
Those that look native European with the less amount of indo-european. So, very dark but still native:

Caveman from tiny villages of the mountains of central Spain:
http://5www.ecestaticos.com/imagestatic/clipping/57d/32d/e91/57d32de91b81e319abef30dcd8355f5f.jpg
https://0www.ecestaticos.com/imagestatic/clipping/c0f/95c/307/c0f95c3074479263b797c8c9ec4b2b4e/javier-hidalgo-rompe-con-cipriani-tras-los-escandalos-de-impagos-al-personal-de-ibiza.jpg
He married a germanic Spaniard, so his unique genes are thrown away:
https://s03.s3c.es/imag/_v0/665x400/6/0/2/hidalgo-mujer-665-2.jpg

La Braña II (he is also from the same place as La Braña ancient individual):
http://cadenaser00.epimg.net/ser/imagenes/2015/12/25/gente/1451058202_231024_1451058346_noticia_normal.jpg

His ancestor (from the same province) from 8000 years ago:
http://listverse.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/la-brana.jpg
Both are very dark, same face structure, even same nose and lips. Robust types.

Rocinante
08-15-2020, 11:56 AM
People are obsessed with sicilians but as far as I know Calabrians are more MENA shifted genetically (despite geography)

Calabrians are my bros.

Faklon
08-15-2020, 11:56 AM
True hypsicranic dolicocephalic dinarized leptomesoprosopic mesomorphic tall nobilid Corded/Yamnaya type with true tremendous cranial capacity and a true 9 inch non-promiscuous penis.

All Europeans are mixed with neolithic, paleolithic and other types of shudras.

chociprasa
08-15-2020, 11:58 AM
Strandid, Fenno-Nordid, Carpathid, North Lappid, Proto-Nordid, Pre-Slavic, Balkan Borreby

Roy
08-15-2020, 11:58 AM
Lappid
South Med
Strandid
Baskid

Nurzat
08-15-2020, 11:59 AM
Faelid is rare. all Cro-Mag types (even in slightly reduced form) are rather rare. East Nordid is rare as well

Tooting Carmen
08-15-2020, 11:59 AM
Those that look native European with the less amount of indo-european. So, very dark but still native:

Caveman from tiny villages of the mountains of central Spain:
http://5www.ecestaticos.com/imagestatic/clipping/57d/32d/e91/57d32de91b81e319abef30dcd8355f5f.jpg
https://0www.ecestaticos.com/imagestatic/clipping/c0f/95c/307/c0f95c3074479263b797c8c9ec4b2b4e/javier-hidalgo-rompe-con-cipriani-tras-los-escandalos-de-impagos-al-personal-de-ibiza.jpg
He married a germanic Spaniard, so his unique genes are thrown away:
https://s03.s3c.es/imag/_v0/665x400/6/0/2/hidalgo-mujer-665-2.jpg

La Braña II (he is also from the same place as La Braña ancient individual):
http://cadenaser00.epimg.net/ser/imagenes/2015/12/25/gente/1451058202_231024_1451058346_noticia_normal.jpg

His ancestor (from the same province) from 8000 years ago:
http://listverse.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/la-brana.jpg
Both are very dark, same face structure, even same nose and lips. Robust types.

The first one looks like a darker version of Nick Cave, the second one a darker version of Ricky Martin.

chociprasa
08-15-2020, 12:03 PM
Faelid is rare. all Cro-Mag types (even in slightly reduced form) are rather rare. East Nordid is rare as well

Faelids are still pretty common in Germany and the Netherlands even if they’re outnumbered by Alpines today

Gota_type_
08-15-2020, 12:07 PM
Strandid, Fenno-Nordid, Carpathid, North Lappid, Proto-Nordid, Pre-Slavic, Balkan Borreby

This man was classified as "proto-nordid", and he is Spanish (Pablo Fernández):

https://static2.elnortedecastilla.es/www/multimedia/201905/30/media/cortadas/podemos1-kvaH-U8040355943295H-624x385@Leonoticias.jpg

Gota_type_
08-15-2020, 12:10 PM
Other rare phenotypes are "very pure" basque looking:

https://e00-elmundo.uecdn.es/assets/multimedia/imagenes/2016/05/08/14626982014589.jpg

https://cdn.20m.es/img2/recortes/2012/08/10/72642-419-367.jpg

axel.aleman
08-15-2020, 12:13 PM
Berid maybe, common in Canary Islanders only

travv
08-15-2020, 12:14 PM
Most Europeans can pass as any other European ethnicity (due to shared WHG/EHG+NF+Aryan ancestry). Rarest phenotypes are found among Northern Europeans: Uralic and its Scandinavian equivalent. Anyone that belongs to these phenotypes is unpassable in Southern Europe..

Scandinavian equivalent of Uralic type is Paleo-Atlantid. I mean real Paleo-Atlantid not his fake version from SE or WA.

Faklon
08-15-2020, 12:17 PM
This man was classified as "proto-nordid", and he is Spanish (Pablo Fernández):

https://static2.elnortedecastilla.es/www/multimedia/201905/30/media/cortadas/podemos1-kvaH-U8040355943295H-624x385@Leonoticias.jpg

Wrongly so,

This alpinoid skullmogs him.

https://static1.leonoticias.com/www/multimedia/201807/12/media/cortadas/ICAL397763-keuC-U603245607419WG-624x385@Leonoticias.jpg

Compare to

https://biographyz.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/Clancy-Brown-with-his-wife-Jeanne-Johnson.jpg


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i44xM9jkloI

Terminator98
08-15-2020, 12:24 PM
Balkan Borreby

Borreby is not that rare in my country even though its usually in mixed form. Also, "Balkan Borreby" has nothing to do with entire peninsula, its limited to Dinaric Alps and countries which are part of them.

Roy
08-15-2020, 12:25 PM
Don't forget Baskid. It is restricted to SW France + Spain and even among Basques it is not super common.

Gota_type_
08-15-2020, 01:18 PM
Don't forget Baskid. It is restricted to SW France + Spain and even among Basques it is not super common.

Yes. But there is not just a 1 baskid look. There are several and some of them look very pure or very "aryan". Like the woman I posted before or this man from Navarra: Iñaki Ochoa de Olza:

http://www.waydn.com/wp-content/uploads/inaki-ochoa-de-olza.jpg
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_6-ikBMKdZ0c/ScORV3iIMtI/AAAAAAAAAbI/egnfUrP7OEM/w1200-h630-p-k-no-nu/Ochoa+y+Colibasanu.jpg
http://www.puravidatheridge.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/12_09_20.jpg
http://img.irtve.es/imagenes/filo-montanero-inaki-ochoa-sigue-inconsciente-annapurna/1211403653270.jpg



He is 100% baske (by surnames) and he does not look like the typical baske like Joseba Beloki for example:
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/va_Z_7biSoA/maxresdefault.jpg
https://static01.diariodenavarra.es/uploads/imagenes/8col/2012/08/24/_bel0001_762f8764.jpg

aherne
08-15-2020, 01:41 PM
Scandinavian equivalent of Uralic type is Paleo-Atlantid. I mean real Paleo-Atlantid not his fake version from SE or WA.

No... it's that super blonde pig nosed type (I don't remember its name) that heavily dominates in Scandinavian countries (common in England, too, but in minority)

Immanenz
08-15-2020, 01:43 PM
Yes. But there is not just a 1 baskid look. There are several and some of them look very pure or very "aryan". Like the woman I posted before or this man from Navarra: Iñaki Ochoa de Olza:

http://www.waydn.com/wp-content/uploads/inaki-ochoa-de-olza.jpg
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_6-ikBMKdZ0c/ScORV3iIMtI/AAAAAAAAAbI/egnfUrP7OEM/w1200-h630-p-k-no-nu/Ochoa+y+Colibasanu.jpg
http://www.puravidatheridge.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/12_09_20.jpg
http://img.irtve.es/imagenes/filo-montanero-inaki-ochoa-sigue-inconsciente-annapurna/1211403653270.jpg



this guy might have a continental Celtic look

Gota_type_
08-15-2020, 01:54 PM
this guy might have a continental Celtic look

The man reminds me of some kind of Ozti (the ancient man from the Alps). He also died in the mountains, in a 8000 mountain in Nepal.


No... it's that super blonde pig nosed type (I don't remember its name) that heavily dominates in Scandinavian countries (common in England, too, but in minority)

You probably meant Brunn like this example, although this is from Spain:
https://i.ibb.co/fC8c08v/Josep-Gumbau2.jpg
http://static.goal.com/350100/350179_heroa.jpg

travv
08-15-2020, 02:10 PM
No... it's that super blonde pig nosed type (I don't remember its name) that heavily dominates in Scandinavian countries (common in England, too, but in minority)

I know what you're talking about. Could be East Baltid as well.

Anyway real Paleo-Atlantid is close to East Baltid than to WA Paleo-Atlantid

https://i.imgur.com/fE73ACE.png

All Northern Upper Paleolithic types from NW Europe to far NE Europe are indeed very rare in continental Europe.

Immanenz
08-15-2020, 02:20 PM
No... it's that super blonde pig nosed type (I don't remember its name) that heavily dominates in Scandinavian countries (common in England, too, but in minority)

Borreby- Baltid propably ?

Roy
08-15-2020, 04:34 PM
Yes. But there is not just a 1 baskid look. There are several and some of them look very pure or very "aryan". Like the woman I posted before or this man from Navarra: Iñaki Ochoa de Olza:


This woman is hardcore Basque looking, do you agree? I consider he a good example of Baskid too.

And is it just me ... or are her eyes bit odd?

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/fe/6d/1a/fe6d1ac13c0529ac2acd83dedba9516e.jpg

Norb
08-15-2020, 05:46 PM
No... it's that super blonde pig nosed type (I don't remember its name) that heavily dominates in Scandinavian countries (common in England, too, but in minority)

pignoseoid maybe?

Gota_type_
08-15-2020, 06:35 PM
This woman is hardcore Basque looking, do you agree? I consider he a good example of Baskid too.

And is it just me ... or are her eyes bit odd?

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/fe/6d/1a/fe6d1ac13c0529ac2acd83dedba9516e.jpg

Well, she has a basque vibe but I don´t even think she is native from here. She even look a bit castiza, like if she was from Argentina or something.

Roy
08-15-2020, 08:18 PM
Well, she has a basque vibe but I don´t even think she is native from here. She even look a bit castiza, like if she was from Argentina or something.

She has a typical Basque name & surname. I think she's likely 100% European.

Immanenz
08-15-2020, 08:48 PM
She has a typical Basque name & surname. I think she's likely 100% European.

Yes, she has just very positive csnthal tilt

Norb
08-15-2020, 08:51 PM
Borreby- Baltid propably ?

in England?

Roy
08-15-2020, 09:08 PM
Yes, she has just very positive csnthal tilt

That Basque woman is a propagator of the Basque language & culture.

https://www.euskalkultura.eus/english/photo-gallery/brazil/izaskun-kortazar-2

She's clearly not a Mestiza, albeit there are some very white looking Mexicans with even up to 30% of Amerindian.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IIWD8_OUjvM

Gota_type_
08-15-2020, 09:19 PM
That Basque woman is a propagator of the Basque language & culture.

https://www.euskalkultura.eus/english/photo-gallery/brazil/izaskun-kortazar-2

She's clearly not a Mestiza, albeit there are some very white looking Mexicans with even up to 30% of Amerindian.
video]

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Boj9SscDc3c/VScGuJfUr-I/AAAAAAAABlI/gnCcJTllWWE/s1600/Picture-Izaskun.jpg
I see that she is born here but she does not look basque. In fact, she can pass as part non-White (like castiza or something like that). It is the eyes área and some other minor things that makes her not look normal basque. In any case, we don´t know the real ancestry (maybe her mother or grandmother went to America and married to a mexican and then came back to Europe and she is partially admixed).

The normal basque looks more like Joseba Beloki that I posted earlier.

Luso
08-15-2020, 09:55 PM
Whatever phenotype i am is the rarest in Europe

https://i.imgur.com/yNCpe6d.jpg

Defcon2
08-15-2020, 09:57 PM
Redheads.

TheMaestro
08-15-2020, 10:09 PM
Note - Dinarid types are invincible since they've been exposed to promaja for centuries and still survived.

Roy
08-19-2020, 05:57 PM
Yes, she has just very positive csnthal tilt

I agree on her eyes, otherwise there is mongoloid fold.

In this picture she looks very European. Lol, at Mestiza guesses.

https://www.euskalkultura.eus/fitxategiak/irudiak/galeriak//2015izaskunkortazarbrasilen01.jpg

Arūnas
09-25-2021, 08:35 PM
Those that exist on the geographical periphery of Europe. Brunn, Paleo-Atlantid in NW Europe, Uralid/Sub-Uralid in NE Europe. Pure Nordid type also can be rare everywhere in Europe.

are you sure?