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grecoroman
07-07-2020, 08:07 PM
https://i.postimg.cc/0QNqH3wb/11.png

brian321
07-07-2020, 08:11 PM
Looks more iranian but you should do an iraqi one

eatensemn
07-07-2020, 08:32 PM
Iran+(ib influence maybe?)

zodzod_
07-07-2020, 08:49 PM
Looks more Paki than Iranian IMO. Would be mistaken as Pakistani in UK and Gypsy in Greece.

Avicenna
07-08-2020, 03:28 PM
Doesn't look afghan at all bro . I can send you some footballers and cricket players to create a afghan morph it you want.

tipirneni
07-08-2020, 03:30 PM
Looks Irani+some kind of Arab
Not like Afghan variety which is more of Tadjik kind. Some Pakistani have this look.

Zoro
07-08-2020, 03:37 PM
Looks Kurdish, Iranian, Afghan

Zoro
07-08-2020, 03:40 PM
Looks Irani+some kind of Arab
Not like Afghan variety which is more of Tadjik kind. Some Pakistani have this look.

Can look paki but i think pakis and especially indians look much more like the kurdish singer i posted here https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?327274-Classify-Kurdish-(Iran)-singer-Amin-Gholamyari

Avicenna
07-08-2020, 03:43 PM
Looks Kurdish, Iranian, Afghan

He looks more like a southern iranian who can pass in South Asia . Haven't seen afghans that look like him, or atleast far from typical .

Zoro
07-08-2020, 03:46 PM
He looks more like a southern iranian who can pass in South Asia . Haven't seen afghans that look like him, or atleast far from typical .

Maybe i’m thinking pashtun in Pakistan?

Kyp
07-08-2020, 03:51 PM
Indo-Iranid

Bender1999
07-08-2020, 03:56 PM
What do you mean with Afghan morph? Afghans are diverse, i would not say that is atypical or rare among Afghans, but not the typical look. Regardless of their ethnicity, Afghans can be Turanid, Iranonordid, iranopamirid, turanopamirid, indoiranid etc. Many of them have east iranic appearence, they have their own look.

brian321
07-08-2020, 04:19 PM
What do you mean with Afghan morph? Afghans are diverse, i would not say that is atypical or rare among Afghans, but not the typical look. Regardless of their ethnicity, Afghans can be Turanid, Iranonordid, iranopamirid, turanopamirid, indoiranid etc. Many of them have east iranic appearence, they have their own look.

Classic bender post- doesnt make sense and just derailing the thread

Bender1999
07-08-2020, 04:25 PM
Classic bender post- doesnt make sense and just derailing the thread

You are still since last month here and already know what kind of posts i send here? Diyarbakirli, i am still wondering why you and your fake account didnt deleted yet.

Avicenna
07-08-2020, 04:32 PM
Maybe iím thinking pashtun in Pakistan?

Mingle can confirm but these fellas are your stereotypical Pakistani pashtuns and they look nothing like OP morph

https://i.imgur.com/oelKvp9.jpg

brian321
07-08-2020, 04:32 PM
You are still since last month here and already know what kind of posts i send here? Diyarbakirli, i am still wondering why you and your fake account didnt deleted yet.

Buddy i already posted a picture of my face with a sticky note with your name and arap on it

Bender1999
07-08-2020, 04:35 PM
Mingle can confirm but these fellas are your stereotypical Pakistani pashtuns and they look nothing like OP morph

https://i.imgur.com/oelKvp9.jpg

Yes i think they are representing more the afghan type.

Avicenna
07-08-2020, 04:40 PM
Yes i think they are representing more the afghan type.

Stereotypical afghans

https://i.imgur.com/YvIhMz5.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/TnoWHwh.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/pzbuF2c.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/5C7uTVy.jpg

Bender1999
07-08-2020, 04:43 PM
Stereotypical afghans

https://i.imgur.com/YvIhMz5.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/TnoWHwh.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/pzbuF2c.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/5C7uTVy.jpg

Yes maybe sometimes more tanned, but generally yes agree.

Avicenna
07-08-2020, 04:47 PM
Yes maybe sometimes more tanned, but generally yes agree.

Summer time can get really hot in Alot of parts and very sunny I agree

Bender1999
07-08-2020, 04:50 PM
Summer time can get really hot in Alot of parts and very sunny I agree

Yes i must admit, after chilling outside in the summer i become tanned, in the winter i am „whiter“. I think climate plays sonetimes a role.

Avicenna
07-08-2020, 04:56 PM
Yes i must admit, after chilling outside in the summer i become tanned, in the winter i am „whiter“. I think climate plays sonetimes a role.

Generally speaking afghanistan has very beautiful adaptable weather ,except the deep south regions where it's almost desert climate. Has 4 seasons in a year with cold snowy winters , mild chilly spring and hot summers . Imo poverty plays a massive part . Over here in England , eastern european and even English builders are super tanned / reddish brown / brown due to spending so much time outside . Afghans in Afghanistan spend most of their lives outdoors believe it or not lol.

Bender1999
07-08-2020, 05:11 PM
Generally speaking afghanistan has very beautiful adaptable weather ,except the deep south regions where it's almost desert climate. Has 4 seasons in a year with cold snowy winters , mild chilly spring and hot summers . Imo poverty plays a massive part . Over here in England , eastern european and even English builders are super tanned / reddish brown / brown due to spending so much time outside . Afghans in Afghanistan spend most of their lives outdoors believe it or not lol.

Sadly i once read that Afghanistan had a lot of forests, but after sovjet army withdrawed they cut off a lot of threes. Because if that many think that afghanistan is like Middle East(and also there are many climate zones)

But yes the same with Turks( we are very familiar culturally), we like more spending time outside with family or friends. Especially during the summer, also i dont like just staying at home. And beeing „tanned“ naturally dont means anything, Afghans(especially the Tadjiks) have more european admix than many west asian iranics.

Avicenna
07-08-2020, 06:19 PM
Sadly i once read that Afghanistan had a lot of forests, but after sovjet army withdrawed they cut off a lot of threes. Because if that many think that afghanistan is like Middle East(and also there are many climate zones)

But yes the same with Turks( we are very familiar culturally), we like more spending time outside with family or friends. Especially during the summer, also i dont like just staying at home. And beeing „tanned“ naturally dont means anything, Afghans(especially the Tadjiks) have more european admix than many west asian iranics.

Not sure about Soviets burning forests but with all the warfare going on for more than a lifetime I wouldn't be surprised . Afghans don't have any European admix rather it's steppe admixture which is shared with europeans , that certainly pulls us Alot closer to Europeans than where we are situated . Also, pashtuns from eastern Afghanistan have quite high steppe admixture too .

Bender1999
07-08-2020, 07:52 PM
Not sure about Soviets burning forests but with all the warfare going on for more than a lifetime I wouldn't be surprised . Afghans don't have any European admix rather it's steppe admixture which is shared with europeans , that certainly pulls us Alot closer to Europeans than where we are situated . Also, pashtuns from eastern Afghanistan have quite high steppe admixture too .

Yes i meant IEs genetic input.

Asif
07-08-2020, 08:10 PM
Indo Iranid

zodzod_
07-08-2020, 08:11 PM
Stereotypical afghans

https://i.imgur.com/YvIhMz5.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/TnoWHwh.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/pzbuF2c.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/5C7uTVy.jpg

A few could pass in Greece. Afghans are Indo-Europeans after all. A number of them wouldn't even look out of place in all of Southern Balkans ( Albania, Macedonia, Bulgaria, etc etc)

zodzod_
07-08-2020, 08:13 PM
Not sure about Soviets burning forests but with all the warfare going on for more than a lifetime I wouldn't be surprised . Afghans don't have any European admix rather it's steppe admixture which is shared with europeans , that certainly pulls us Alot closer to Europeans than where we are situated . Also, pashtuns from eastern Afghanistan have quite high steppe admixture too .

Some wise guys over at another forum told me that the Iranics already had asiatic admixture before migrating to the Iranic plateau. Sounds kinda bs since it was taboo for people to mix with those outside their tribe.

Out of curiosity what percentage of Afghans would you say have blonde hair? (Excluding children)?

Avicenna
07-08-2020, 09:43 PM
Some wise guys over at another forum told me that the Iranics already had asiatic admixture before migrating to the Iranic plateau. Sounds kinda bs since it was taboo for people to mix with those outside their tribe.

Out of curiosity what percentage of Afghans would you say have blonde hair? (Excluding children)?

Depends what you decide as "blonde " , however it's not common at all imo . Light brown hair is a different story though . Reddish brown hair is much more common too.

I can only find this study done on afghans ( pashtuns tajiks and nuristanis )

The Afghans and Pathans, like the Persians, are usually brunet, and at the same time show a persistent minority of blondism, which in this case reflects Nordic admixture. They are heavy-bearded, and possess heavy body hair. Their facial features show a maximum of bony relief, and, on the whole, their facial skeletons seem much heavier and much more strongly marked than those of the more delicate Arabian Mediterraneans. They possess, in common with the Arabian Mediterranean group, a sharpness in definition of feature which stands in contrast to the coarser lineaments of the average Mesopotamian countenance.

In respect to the Dardic group, we have a certain amount of published and unpublished information which will be useful here.25

The Kafirs of the Kati tribe, who live in the easternmost section of Kafiristan, are taller and larger-headed than the Pathans, but still essentially dolichocephalic and leptorrhine.26 They seem also to possess a high ratio of blondism. Like the Pathans, their commonest skin color is a medium brunet white, von Luschan #9, but in hair and eye color they seem to be lighter than the Pushtu-speaking peoples. Thirty-four per cent have mixed or light eyes, as opposed to 20 per cent of Pushtus. Their hair color, according to Stein, is blond or light brown in 28 per cent of the group.27"

"The Tajiks of both countries are pale skinned hirsute europiform pamirians with 10% light hair(blonde) and 15% light eyes (blue)"

zodzod_
07-08-2020, 10:18 PM
Depends what you decide as "blonde " , however it's not common at all imo . Light brown hair is a different story though . Reddish brown hair is much more common too.

I can only find this study done on afghans ( pashtuns tajiks and nuristanis )

The Afghans and Pathans, like the Persians, are usually brunet, and at the same time show a persistent minority of blondism, which in this case reflects Nordic admixture. They are heavy-bearded, and possess heavy body hair. Their facial features show a maximum of bony relief, and, on the whole, their facial skeletons seem much heavier and much more strongly marked than those of the more delicate Arabian Mediterraneans. They possess, in common with the Arabian Mediterranean group, a sharpness in definition of feature which stands in contrast to the coarser lineaments of the average Mesopotamian countenance.

In respect to the Dardic group, we have a certain amount of published and unpublished information which will be useful here.25

The Kafirs of the Kati tribe, who live in the easternmost section of Kafiristan, are taller and larger-headed than the Pathans, but still essentially dolichocephalic and leptorrhine.26 They seem also to possess a high ratio of blondism. Like the Pathans, their commonest skin color is a medium brunet white, von Luschan #9, but in hair and eye color they seem to be lighter than the Pushtu-speaking peoples. Thirty-four per cent have mixed or light eyes, as opposed to 20 per cent of Pushtus. Their hair color, according to Stein, is blond or light brown in 28 per cent of the group.27"

"The Tajiks of both countries are pale skinned hirsute europiform pamirians with 10% light hair(blonde) and 15% light eyes (blue)"

Thanks for the reply. I once visited an Iranian restaurant and was intrigued to see a man working there (later discovered was Afghan) was blonde.

Last question bro, do the Persians also have a similar level of blondism as the Tajiks in your opinion? (10%)? I think only 3% of them have a 'nordic blonde' hair colour (a yellowish colour that everyone considers blonde).

Avicenna
07-09-2020, 12:30 AM
Thanks for the reply. I once visited an Iranian restaurant and was intrigued to see a man working there (later discovered was Afghan) was blonde.

Last question bro, do the Persians also have a similar level of blondism as the Tajiks in your opinion? (10%)? I think only 3% of them have a 'nordic blonde' hair colour (a yellowish colour that everyone considers blonde).

No much less imo . I think someone posted a table where it showed the frequency of blonde hair , Persians have it less than tajiks ( especially rural tajiks , mountainous tajiks and pamiris ). 10% blonde rate is quite high imo let alone 28% .