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Ion Basescul
07-12-2020, 10:19 PM
v1 was getting too big, so I've decided to open a new iteration of this thread.

Eurogenes K13 results:
Blue - Republic of Moldova
Yellow - Moldavia in Romania

Results, averaged by location
https://i.imgur.com/KTcMHfz.png

PCA plot

So after tinkering with the settings for a while, I've stopped on this PCA format, which I will use for all of my current and new samples moving forward.

Here's how it works:



Up = Increase in: Baltic, North Atlantic
Right = Increase in: South Asian, Siberian, East Asian, Amerindian
Down-Right = Increase in: West Asian, Red Sea
Left + Down-Left = Increase in: East Med, West Med




Dot Colours:



Red = Unmixed Romanians/Moldovans from Romania's Moldavia
Blue = Unmixed Romanians/Moldovans from R. Moldova
Green = Unmixed Ethnic Minorities from either country
Black = People of mixed heritage from either country
Gold = Ivano-Frankivsk (Highlander) Ukrainians




Border Colours:



Red = Unmixed Romanians/Moldovans from Romania's Moldavia
Blue = Unmixed Romanians/Moldovans from R. Moldova
Green = All people from R. Moldova
Black = All people from Romania's Moldavia
Gold = Ivano-Frankivs Ukrainians and a mixed Ukrainian/Romanian from Chernivtsi




Label codes correspond to abbreviations for district/county:​



Romania (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Counties_of_Romania)
R. Moldova 1 (https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/46/MD_vehicle_region_codes.svg/800px-MD_vehicle_region_codes.svg.png) and 2
(https://ro.wikipedia.org/wiki/Organizarea_administrativ-teritorial%C4%83_a_Republicii_Moldova)


Samples surrounded by a white circle are my family, 12=dad, CH_1/2Ukr=mom, 49=brother, 48=me, 17=ZmeyGorynych

https://i.imgur.com/H03qISE.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/APfhLpt.jpg

ixulescu
07-12-2020, 10:36 PM
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07-12-2020, 10:36 PM
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07-12-2020, 10:37 PM
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Hi IB,

That PCA from the previous thread was interesting:
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?318490-Moldovan-Romanian-GEDmatch-Resuts&p=6789954&viewfull=1#post6789954

Can you do another PCA with ethnic Romanians from the 3 historic provinces + RM? (4 groups on the PCA)

Ion Basescul
07-12-2020, 10:48 PM
Regional model for people from R. Moldova



Moldova_North,25.89,33.33,14.92,8.89,11.43,1.48,0. 65,0.56,1.47,0.35,0.61,0.17,0.26
Moldova_Centre,22.58,29.72,15.61,10.69,15.31,2.00, 0.75,0.75,1.11,0.67,0.51,0.09,0.20
Moldova_South,21.75,24.97,18.02,11.37,18.29,2.55,0 .45,0.42,1.15,0.50,0.32,0.08,0.14


Gagauz,19.35,23.14,17.99,12.57,21.48,2.90,0.52,0.2 5,0.69,0.40,0.64,0.06,0.00


Ukrainian,27.77,43.57,12.05,6.12,5.68,0.16,1.09,0. 91,1.41,0.78,0.28,0.11,0.07
Ukrainian_Lviv,27.35,41.85,11.96,7.10,5.29,1.79,1. 20,0.39,1.36,0.82,0.75,0.00,0.13


Romania_Dobruja-Tatar,12.70,25.39,7.77,11.38,5.82,2.15,2.09,10.20, 20.74,0.91,0.52,0,0.33
Crimean_Tatar,13.17,20.04,7.55,16.36,8.88,1.83,3.2 3,10.25,16.40,1.28,0.47,0.27,0.21


Roma_Unmixed_Moldova,10.85,8.12,13.85,16.55,18.75, 2.37,25.19,1.34,1.65,0.21,0.52,0.58,0
Jewish_Unmixed_Moldova,15.78,6.59,17.02,11.43,37.7 9,7.65,0.00,0.46,0.95,0.00,0.69,1.66,0.00


RU_Pinega,24.715,51.9425,5.045,2.815,0.3925,0.58,1 .58,0.2425,9.9575,1.9575,0.265,0.305,0.225
Russian_Smolensk,28.16,48.47,8.74,5.82,3.83,1.69,1 .38,0.17,0.85,0.43,0.38,0.06,0.01




<tbody>
Distance to:
IonBasescul_23andme+LivingDNA


4.43678938
Moldova_Centre


4.80762935
Moldova_North


8.87733631
Moldova_South


13.18159702
Gagauz


15.51877895
Ukrainian_Lviv


16.99801753
Ukrainian


22.78776645
Russian_Smolensk


24.75758470
Crimean_Tatar


26.00568015
Romania_Dobruja-Tatar


29.61376591
RU_Pinega


35.82082355
Jewish_Unmixed_Moldova


36.68006816
Roma_Unmixed_Moldova

</tbody>


<tbody>
Distance to:
IonBasescul_brother_MyHeritage


4.76840644
Moldova_Centre


5.73422183
Moldova_North


10.01796886
Moldova_South


13.68600380
Gagauz


14.79371150
Ukrainian_Lviv


16.44105228
Ukrainian


21.79302411
Russian_Smolensk


24.15013043
Crimean_Tatar


25.56711169
Romania_Dobruja-Tatar


28.62175888
RU_Pinega


36.20297225
Roma_Unmixed_Moldova


37.16128362
Jewish_Unmixed_Moldova

</tbody>


<tbody>
Distance to:
IonBasescul_dad_MyHeritage


4.93850180
Moldova_North


6.15936685
Moldova_Centre


11.28169314
Moldova_South


13.90689757
Ukrainian_Lviv


15.19900655
Gagauz


15.46755637
Ukrainian


20.95422630
Russian_Smolensk


25.28580827
Crimean_Tatar


26.64727191
Romania_Dobruja-Tatar


27.96492412
RU_Pinega


36.81284151
Roma_Unmixed_Moldova


38.14028448
Jewish_Unmixed_Moldova

</tbody>


<tbody>
Distance to:
IonBasescul_mom_MyHeritage


5.33507263
Moldova_North


6.61517951
Moldova_Centre


12.40934325
Ukrainian_Lviv


12.41558698
Moldova_South


13.68845864
Ukrainian


15.97574411
Gagauz


19.10492083
Russian_Smolensk


26.10057435
RU_Pinega


26.19883776
Crimean_Tatar


26.51100715
Romania_Dobruja-Tatar


38.90043059
Roma_Unmixed_Moldova


39.57889715
Jewish_Unmixed_Moldova



</tbody>



Target: IonBasescul_23andme+LivingDNA
Distance: 2.0041% / 2.00410937 | ADC: 0.25x
69.0 Moldova_North
24.2 Moldova_South
6.8 Crimean_Tatar
0.0 Moldova_Centre
0.0 Gagauz
0.0 Ukrainian
0.0 Ukrainian_Lviv
0.0 Romania_Dobruja-Tatar
0.0 Roma_Unmixed_Moldova
0.0 Jewish_Unmixed_Moldova
0.0 RU_Pinega
0.0 Russian_Smolensk

Target: IonBasescul_23andme+LivingDNA
Distance: 2.8334% / 2.83338536 | ADC: 0.25x
69.4 Moldova_North
30.6 Moldova_South

Target: IonBasescul_23andme+LivingDNA
Distance: 3.8416% / 3.84162689 | ADC: 0.25x
85.6 Moldova_Centre
12.2 Ukrainian_Lviv
2.2 Moldova_South

--------------------------


Target: IonBasescul_brother_MyHeritage
Distance: 2.9784% / 2.97835041 | ADC: 0.25x
66.8 Moldova_Centre
13.4 Ukrainian_Lviv
11.8 Moldova_North
8.0 Crimean_Tatar
0.0 Moldova_South
0.0 Gagauz
0.0 Ukrainian
0.0 Romania_Dobruja-Tatar
0.0 Roma_Unmixed_Moldova
0.0 Jewish_Unmixed_Moldova
0.0 RU_Pinega
0.0 Russian_Smolensk



Target: IonBasescul_brother_MyHeritage
Distance: 3.7714% / 3.77138263 | ADC: 0.25x
84.4 Moldova_Centre
15.6 Ukrainian_Lviv

--------------------------

Target: IonBasescul_dad_MyHeritage
Distance: 3.5964% / 3.59639271 | ADC: 0.25x
86.0 Moldova_North
5.4 Crimean_Tatar
4.4 Moldova_Centre
4.2 Roma_Unmixed_Moldova
0.0 Moldova_South
0.0 Gagauz
0.0 Ukrainian
0.0 Ukrainian_Lviv
0.0 Romania_Dobruja-Tatar
0.0 Jewish_Unmixed_Moldova
0.0 RU_Pinega
0.0 Russian_Smolensk


Target: IonBasescul_dad_MyHeritage
Distance: 4.3905% / 4.39047723 | ADC: 0.25x
66.6 Moldova_North
33.4 Moldova_Centre

--------------------------

Target: IonBasescul_mom_MyHeritage
Distance: 3.4244% / 3.42444197 | ADC: 0.25x
66.8 Moldova_Centre
29.4 Ukrainian
3.8 Crimean_Tatar
0.0 Moldova_North
0.0 Moldova_South
0.0 Gagauz
0.0 Ukrainian_Lviv
0.0 Romania_Dobruja-Tatar
0.0 Roma_Unmixed_Moldova
0.0 Jewish_Unmixed_Moldova
0.0 RU_Pinega
0.0 Russian_Smolensk

Target: IonBasescul_mom_MyHeritage
Distance: 4.2132% / 4.21324677 | ADC: 0.25x
51.4 Moldova_South
25.4 Ukrainian
23.2 Ukrainian_Lviv

Ion Basescul
07-12-2020, 10:51 PM
Hi IB,

That PCA from the previous thread was interesting:
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?318490-Moldovan-Romanian-GEDmatch-Resuts&p=6789954&viewfull=1#post6789954

Can you do another PCA with ethnic Romanians from the 3 historic provinces + RM? (4 groups on the PCA)

Hi, at some point I will. I have 131 samples from Transylvania and 176 from Wallachia as of today, so I am definitely not ignoring those regions.

Ion Basescul
07-12-2020, 11:19 PM
Regional model for people from Moldavia in Romania



Romania_Moldavia_North,24.73,29.80,14.95,9.49,15.2 5,1.63,0.81,0.53,1.32,0.62,0.56,0.17,0.15
Romania_Moldavia_South,23.84,26.94,17.37,9.96,16.3 8,1.78,0.63,0.53,1.13,0.71,0.48,0.09,0.15


Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk,26.18,38.44,13.89,5.43,1 1.20,1.12,1.13,0.20,1.35,0.50,0.20,0.16,0.21
Ukrainian_Lviv,27.35,41.85,11.96,7.10,5.29,1.79,1. 20,0.39,1.36,0.82,0.75,0.00,0.13
Ukrainian_Romania,28.41,35.25,13.07,4.72,13.08,1.8 6,2.00,0.25,0.92,0.00,0.47,0.00,0.00


Romania_Dobruja-Tatar,12.70,25.39,7.77,11.38,5.82,2.15,2.09,10.20, 20.74,0.91,0.52,0,0.33
Crimean_Tatar,13.17,20.04,7.55,16.36,8.88,1.83,3.2 3,10.25,16.40,1.28,0.47,0.27,0.21


Roma_Unmixed_Moldova,10.85,8.12,13.85,16.55,18.75, 2.37,25.19,1.34,1.65,0.21,0.52,0.58,0
Jewish_Unmixed_Romania,16.70,7.80,17.96,11.23,35.7 9,6.25,1.06,0.55,0.92,0.27,0.79,0.54,0.17




<tbody>
Distance to:
Nurzat_1/2Vaslui_1/2Ukrainian


4.85455456
Romania_Moldavia_North


6.95719052
Romania_Moldavia_South


9.34632013
Ukrainian_Romania


14.08626636
Ukrainian_Lviv


15.52573348
Ukrainian


26.35406989
Crimean_Tatar


27.49823994
Romania_Dobruja-Tatar


35.27873155
Jewish_Unmixed_Romania


37.38228992
Roma_Unmixed_Moldova

</tbody>

Target: Nurzat_1/2Vaslui_1/2Ukrainian
Distance: 3.0694% / 3.06936117 | ADC: 0.25x
67.6 Romania_Moldavia_South
30.0 Ukrainian_Lviv
2.4 Crimean_Tatar
0.0 Romania_Moldavia_North
0.0 Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk
0.0 Ukrainian_Romania
0.0 Romania_Dobruja-Tatar
0.0 Roma_Unmixed_Moldova
0.0 Jewish_Unmixed_Romania

Target: Nurzat_1/2Vaslui_1/2Ukrainian
Distance: 4.1419% / 4.14191400 | ADC: 0.25x
56.6 Romania_Moldavia_South
38.6 Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk
4.8 Crimean_Tatar


Target: Nurzat_1/2Vaslui_1/2Ukrainian
Distance: 4.9438% / 4.94375030 | ADC: 0.25x
55.2 Romania_Moldavia_South
39.0 Ukrainian_Romania
5.8 Crimean_Tatar

-----------------------------


<tbody>
Distance to:
WeirdLookingFellow_GF_1/2Vaslui_1/2Galati


2.95961146
Romania_Moldavia_South


6.11662489
Romania_Moldavia_North


10.94240833
Csango_Romania


13.87762588
Ukrainian_Romania


21.66270297
Ukrainian_Lviv


22.81176889
Ukrainian


27.03003145
Crimean_Tatar


27.46165873
Jewish_Unmixed_Romania


29.37910822
Romania_Dobruja-Tatar


34.72625232
Roma_Unmixed_Moldova

</tbody>

Target: WeirdLookingFellow_GF_1/2Vaslui_1/2Galati
Distance: 2.6924% / 2.69244551 | ADC: 0.25x
96.4 Romania_Moldavia_South
3.6 Jewish_Unmixed_Romania
0.0 Romania_Moldavia_North
0.0 Ukrainian
0.0 Ukrainian_Lviv
0.0 Ukrainian_Romania
0.0 Romania_Dobruja-Tatar
0.0 Crimean_Tatar
0.0 Roma_Unmixed_Moldova
0.0 Csango_Romania

andre
07-13-2020, 06:38 AM
Distance to: Andre
3.97863042 Romania_Moldavia_South
4.92443905 Romania_Moldavia_North
5.58656704 Hungarian_Csango
11.41496824 Ukrainian_Romania
14.01162018 Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk
20.36039047 Ukrainian_Lviv
26.89547546 Crimean_Tatar
27.60262125 Jewish_Unmixed_Romania
28.79982292 Romania_Dobruja-Tatar
34.81215305 Roma_Unmixed_Moldova


Target: Andre
Distance: 2.9620% / 2.96204111 | ADC: 0.5x
56.2 Romania_Moldavia_South
31.8 Hungarian_Csango
6.8 Romania_Moldavia_North
5.2 Jewish_Unmixed_Romania

Ion Basescul
07-13-2020, 07:16 AM
Distance to: Andre
3.97863042 Romania_Moldavia_South
4.92443905 Romania_Moldavia_North
5.58656704 Hungarian_Csango
11.41496824 Ukrainian_Romania
14.01162018 Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk
20.36039047 Ukrainian_Lviv
26.89547546 Crimean_Tatar
27.60262125 Jewish_Unmixed_Romania
28.79982292 Romania_Dobruja-Tatar
34.81215305 Roma_Unmixed_Moldova


Target: Andre
Distance: 2.9620% / 2.96204111 | ADC: 0.5x
56.2 Romania_Moldavia_South
31.8 Hungarian_Csango
6.8 Romania_Moldavia_North
5.2 Jewish_Unmixed_Romania

I recommend running the model at 0.25x with all references once. Then to have a second run at 0.25x with only those references that are relevant for your ancestry. In your case those would be Romania Moldavia South, Romania Transylvania, Csango and Jewish.

Aspirin
07-13-2020, 08:34 AM
Acela din Fălești nu trebuia să-l pui la Fălești, luīnd īn calcul că doar parțial e din raion, plus partea locală e dubioasă, fiind originar dintr-un sat ucrainean la origine.

Ion Basescul
07-13-2020, 09:02 AM
Acela din Fălești nu trebuia să-l pui la Fălești, luīnd īn calcul că doar parțial e din raion, plus partea locală e dubioasă, fiind originar dintr-un sat ucrainean la origine.

Nu lua tare in serios, de exemplu mostra din Rezina tot e dubioasa, considerand cat North Atlantic are. Cand voi avea un reprezentativ curat din Falesti (wink wink), persoana ceea va fi scoasa de acolo si inclusa in categoria Chisinau. Cei care-s amestecaturi din mai multe raioane, eu ii adaug la Chisinau.

Aspirin
07-13-2020, 09:15 AM
Nu lua tare in serios, de exemplu mostra din Rezina tot e dubioasa, considerand cat North Atlantic are. Cand voi avea un reprezentativ curat din Falesti (wink wink), persoana ceea va fi scoasa de acolo si inclusa in categoria Chisinau. Cei care-s amestecaturi din mai multe raioane, eu ii adaug la Chisinau.

O parte e originară din Băcioi, līngă Chișinău, așa că n-are sens să-l pui la Fălești. Ai post două rezultate 23andme din Fălești, măcar știi ce familii au?

Ion Basescul
07-13-2020, 09:20 AM
O parte e originară din Băcioi, līngă Chișinău, așa că n-are sens să-l pui la Fălești. Ai post două rezultate 23andme din Fălești, măcar știi ce familii au?

Lasa-l ca placeholder, nu-i incurca nimanui. Poti sa inchizi ochii daca te deranjeaza.
Si normal ca stiu, si inca ti-am aratat toate familiile de pe 23andme.

Aspirin
07-13-2020, 09:30 AM
Si normal ca stiu, si inca ti-am aratat toate familiile de pe 23andme.

Chiar că, am uitat. M-am uitat acum și unul din ei precis are origini ucrainești. Familia lui e slavă la origine și se găsește numai īn satul Ciolacul Nou, care tot e ucrainean la origine, alături se află Ciolacul Vechi care e moldovenesc, și Pokrovka, un sat mic de ucraineni, un prieten de al meu are origini de acolo, ți-am spus despre el.

Ion Basescul
07-13-2020, 09:50 AM
Chiar că, am uitat. M-am uitat acum și unul din ei precis are origini ucrainești. Familia lui e slavă la origine și se găsește numai īn satul Ciolacul Nou, care tot e ucrainean la origine, alături se află Ciolacul Vechi care e moldovenesc, și Pokrovka, un sat mic de ucraineni, un prieten de al meu are origini de acolo, ți-am spus despre el.

Nu-i neaparat sa fie slav daca are familie slava. Am si eu rude cu familii care par slave, dar de fapt is moldoveni. Poate ca pe linie paterna s-a mostenit familia si persoana-i de fapt 1/4 sau 1/8 ucraineana, ceea e practic irelevant genetic, in contextul moldovenilor. Cu 40% East Euro nu pare sa fie complet sau macar pe 1/2 ucraineana.

Aspirin
07-13-2020, 09:57 AM
Nu-i neaparat sa fie slav daca are familie slava. Am si eu rude cu familii care par slave, dar de fapt is moldoveni. Poate ca pe linie paterna s-a mostenit familia si persoana-i de fapt 1/4 sau 1/8 ucraineana, ceea e practic irelevant genetic, in contextul moldovenilor. Cu 40% East Euro nu pare sa fie complet sau macar pe 1/2 ucraineana.

Īn cazul dat nu cred, la mine īn raion īs 4 hotspot-uri de colonii ucrainești, Ciolacul Nou, Pokrovka și Făgădau formīnd unul din ele. Ciolacul Vechi e īncloțit din doup părți de Ciolacul Nou și Pokrovka și se vede că s-au mixat, jumătate din familii īs ucrainești la origine, așa și īn celelalte două ucrainești se găsesc familii moldovenești, plus mai trebuie de adăugat că aceștia nu-s ucraineni tipici, da īs coloniști din Bucovina de Nord și Pocuția. Eu doar mă īmpart cu informația de la fața locului că știu destul de bine tabloul etnic al raionului. Īnsă poți să ai dreptate parțial dacă această persoană e din oraș, sau dacă are origini din Ciolacul Vechi sau alte sate moldovenești īnvecinate.

Ion Basescul
07-13-2020, 10:00 AM
Īn cazul dat nu cred, la mine īn raion īs 4 hotspot-uri de colonii ucrainești, Ciolacul Nou, Pokrovka și Făgădau fărmīnd unul din ele. Ciolacul Vechi e īncloțit din doup părți de Ciolacul Nou și Pokrovka și se vede că s-au mixat, jumătate din familii īs ucrainești la origine, așa și īn celelalte două ucrainești se găsesc familii moldovenești, plus mai trebuie de adăugat că aceștia nu-s ucraineni tipici, da īs coloniști din Bucovina de Nord și Pocuția. Eu doar mă īmpart cu informația de la fața locului că știu destul de bine tabloul etnic al raionului. Īnsă poți să ai dreptate parțial dacă această persoană e din oraș, sau dacă are origini din Ciolacul Vechi sau alte sate moldovenești īnvecinate.

Da, totul e posibil, vezi ca persoana data a listat doar o familie si la originea celor 4 bunei a ales "Falesti District". Deci poate ca pe 1/4 e ucraineana, dar pe 3/4 nu stim ce e. Plus la asta, persoana data e o femeie, deci familia ar putea sa-i apartina sotului, daca-i maritata.

Aspirin
07-13-2020, 10:04 AM
Da, totul e posibil, vezi ca persoana data a listat doar o familie si la originea celor 4 bunei a ales "Falesti District". Deci poate ca pe 1/4 e ucraineana, dar pe 3/4 nu stim ce e. Plus la asta, persoana data e o femeie, deci familia ar putea sa-i apartina sotului, daca-i maritata.

Poate să fie, iaca la aceea că poate să fie familia soțului nu m-am gīndit. Ceva similar cu un rezultat dat de tine din Ivano Frankivsk, unde persoana avea familie spaniolă sau italiană, după care mi-am dat seama că e măritată īn America, că am găsit prin google destul de repede locul ei de naștere și familia reală.

Ion Basescul
07-13-2020, 10:15 AM
Poate să fie, iaca la aceea că poate să fie familia soțului nu m-am gīndit. Ceva similar cu un rezultat dat de tine din Ivano Frankivsk, unde persoana avea familie spaniolă sau italiană, după care mi-am dat seama că e măritată īn America, că am găsit prin google destul de repede locul ei de naștere și familia reală.

A, Tomasciuc, nu unii oameni prefera sa-si ascunda identitatea, dar se poate de gasit dupa email.

Ion Basescul
07-13-2020, 09:21 PM
1/4 Hincesti, 1/4 Edinet and 1/2 Russian from Izmail, Ukraine

Admix Results (sorted):


<tbody>
#
Population
Percent


1
Baltic
37.75


2
North_Atlantic
24.12


3
East_Med
14.93


4
West_Med
12.57


5
West_Asian
3.55


6
Amerindian
3.17


7
Red_Sea
2.29


8
South_Asian
0.71


9
Siberian
0.48


10
East_Asian
0.43

</tbody>

Single Population Sharing:


<tbody>
#
Population (source)
Distance


1
Croatian
7.57


2
Moldavian
8.48


3
Ukrainian_Lviv
10.39


4
Hungarian
10.75


5
Ukrainian
10.82


6
South_Polish
11.27


7
Serbian
11.82


8
Southwest_Russian
12.81


9
Polish
13.55


10
Ukrainian_Belgorod
13.73


11
Romanian
14.65


12
Estonian_Polish
14.65


13
Russian_Smolensk
14.81


14
East_German
15.15


15
Belorussian
15.28


16
Austrian
15.38


17
Bulgarian
15.98


18
Kargopol_Russian
17.17


19
Erzya
18.52


20
Southwest_Finnish
19.32

</tbody>

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:


<tbody>
#

Primary Population (source)
Secondary Population (source)
Distance


1

69.3%
Estonian_Polish
+
30.7%
Ashkenazi
@
4.04


2

73.6%
Estonian_Polish
+
26.4%
Italian_Jewish
@
4.11


3

62.2%
Lithuanian
+
37.8%
Ashkenazi
@
4.16


4

67.1%
Lithuanian
+
32.9%
Italian_Jewish
@
4.21


5

73.6%
Estonian_Polish
+
26.4%
Algerian_Jewish
@
4.26


6

67.1%
Lithuanian
+
32.9%
Algerian_Jewish
@
4.4


7

68.4%
Belorussian
+
31.6%
Ashkenazi
@
4.46


8

72.8%
Belorussian
+
27.2%
Algerian_Jewish
@
4.52


9

72.9%
Belorussian
+
27.1%
Italian_Jewish
@
4.62


10

75.2%
Estonian_Polish
+
24.8%
Tunisian_Jewish
@
4.64


11

75.3%
Estonian_Polish
+
24.7%
Libyan_Jewish
@
4.68


12

74%
Estonian_Polish
+
26%
Sephardic_Jewish
@
4.69


13

62.9%
Estonian_Polish
+
37.1%
Greek_Thessaly
@
4.88


14

67.4%
Lithuanian
+
32.6%
Sephardic_Jewish
@
4.94


15

69.4%
Russian_Smolensk
+
30.6%
Ashkenazi
@
4.95


16

61.9%
Belorussian
+
38.1%
Greek_Thessaly
@
4.99


17

85.6%
Ukrainian
+
14.4%
Yemenite_Jewish
@
5


18

68.9%
Lithuanian
+
31.1%
Tunisian_Jewish
@
5.01


19

71.7%
Estonian_Polish
+
28.3%
South_Italian
@
5.02


20

62.5%
Estonian
+
37.5%
Ashkenazi
@
5.04

</tbody>


Horrible fit



Target: Mixed
Distance: 7.0836% / 7.08356937 | ADC: 0.25x
49.6 Moldova_Centre
34.6 Southwest_Russian
11.0 Ukrainian
4.8 Gagauz
0.0 Moldova_North
0.0 Moldova_South
0.0 Bulgarian
0.0 Ukrainian_Lviv
0.0 Romania_Dobruja-Tatar
0.0 Crimean_Tatar
0.0 Roma_Unmixed_Moldova
0.0 RU_Pinega
0.0 Russian_Smolensk
0.0 Kargopol_Russian

Looks better with Jews added in, probably due to the high East Med for a halfie, but they don't have any Jewish hints in the family tree, nor do I see any Jewish matches at 10+ cM.

Target: Mixed
Distance: 5.5429% / 5.54288268 | ADC: 0.25x
58.2 Ukrainian
21.2 Southwest_Russian
20.6 Jewish_Unmixed_Moldova
0.0 Moldova_North
0.0 Moldova_Centre
0.0 Moldova_South
0.0 Gagauz
0.0 Bulgarian
0.0 Ukrainian_Lviv
0.0 Romania_Dobruja-Tatar
0.0 Crimean_Tatar
0.0 Roma_Unmixed_Moldova
0.0 RU_Pinega
0.0 Russian_Smolensk
0.0 Kargopol_Russian

Ion Basescul
07-13-2020, 10:44 PM
Soroca Jew
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N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan

</tbody>
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18.03
9.27
18.63
10.26
34.22
4.58
0
2.06
0
0
0.70
2.25
0

</tbody>
</google-sheets-html-origin>
Chisinau Jew
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N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan

</tbody>
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12.70
12.29
18.18
11.81
36.58
6.51
0.11
1.53
0.15
0
0
0.14
0

</tbody>
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Aspirin
07-14-2020, 07:34 AM
1/4 Hincesti, 1/4 Edinet and 1/2 Russian from Izmail, Ukraine

Nostoiașii Băsarabeț

Ion Basescul
07-14-2020, 01:29 PM
3/4 Moldovan Ukrainian, 1/4 Poltava oblast Ukraine Ukrainian
The Ukrainian side from Moldova comes from 2/4 Danu village, 1/4 Malinovscoe. The line from Danu village migrated to Moldova from from Chernivtsi oblast in Ukraine, at the beginning of the 19th century.

<tbody>
#
Population
Percent


1
Baltic
39.14


2
North_Atlantic
25.5


3
West_Med
13.68


4
West_Asian
10.09


5
East_Med
7.49


6
Siberian
1.75


7
East_Asian
0.75


8
Red_Sea
0.57


9
Oceanian
0.39


10
Sub-Saharan
0.3


11
South_Asian
0.24


12
Northeast_African
0.1

</tbody>

Single Population Sharing:


<tbody>
#
Population (source)
Distance


1
Croatian
4.54


2
Ukrainian_Lviv
4.94


3
Moldavian
6


4
Ukrainian
6.1


5
South_Polish
6.62


6
Ukrainian_Belgorod
9.25


7
Southwest_Russian
9.28


8
Polish
9.46


9
Hungarian
9.67


10
Russian_Smolensk
10.97


11
Estonian_Polish
11.78


12
Belorussian
12.61


13
East_German
12.69


14
Serbian
12.98


15
Kargopol_Russian
13.18


16
Austrian
13.49


17
Erzya
14.72


18
Romanian
16.28


19
Estonian
16.38


20
Southwest_Finnish
16.39

</tbody>

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:


<tbody>
#

Primary Population (source)
Secondary Population (source)
Distance


1

90.2%
Ukrainian
+
9.8%
Georgian
@
2.26


2

90.2%
Ukrainian
+
9.8%
Armenian
@
2.27


3

90.6%
Ukrainian
+
9.4%
Abhkasian
@
2.29


4

61.8%
Moldavian
+
38.2%
Ukrainian_Belgorod
@
2.31


5

88.6%
Ukrainian
+
11.4%
Turkish
@
2.4


6

50.5%
Moldavian
+
49.5%
Ukrainian
@
2.44


7

74.9%
Moldavian
+
25.1%
Lithuanian
@
2.46


8

88.6%
Ukrainian
+
11.4%
Balkar
@
2.47


9

89.4%
Ukrainian
+
10.6%
Ossetian
@
2.48


10

66.2%
Moldavian
+
33.8%
Russian_Smolensk
@
2.49


11

62.2%
Moldavian
+
37.8%
Southwest_Russian
@
2.56


12

90.3%
Ukrainian
+
9.7%
Georgian_Jewish
@
2.58


13

88.9%
Ukrainian
+
11.1%
Adygei
@
2.58


14

56.3%
Ukrainian_Lviv
+
43.7%
Moldavian
@
2.59


15

92.6%
Ukrainian_Lviv
+
7.4%
Armenian
@
2.63


16

88.3%
Ukrainian
+
11.7%
Kabardin
@
2.63


17

79.7%
Croatian
+
20.3%
Erzya
@
2.64


18

88.2%
Ukrainian
+
11.8%
Kumyk
@
2.65


19

92.9%
Ukrainian_Lviv
+
7.1%
Abhkasian
@
2.65


20

89.2%
Ukrainian
+
10.8%
North_Ossetian
@
2.67


</tbody>


<tbody>
Distance to:
3/4MDUkr_1/4PoltavaUA


5.57114889
Ukrainian_Lviv


6.19121151
Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk


6.94096535
Ukrainian


7.32785780
Moldova_North


12.41481776
Russian_Smolensk


12.87198897
Moldova_Centre


18.88596569
Moldova_South


20.38859930
RU_Pinega


22.83558845
Gagauz


29.13727853
Romania_Dobruja-Tatar


30.21163352
Crimean_Tatar


44.40600185
Roma_Unmixed_Moldova


46.24439209
Jewish_Unmixed_Moldova


</tbody>


Target: 3/4MDUkr_1/4PoltavaUA
Distance: 2.9412% / 2.94115666 | ADC: 0.25x
56.0 Ukrainian_Lviv
22.2 Moldova_North
10.2 Moldova_Centre
9.6 Ukrainian
2.0 Crimean_Tatar
0.0 Moldova_South
0.0 Gagauz
0.0 Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk
0.0 Romania_Dobruja-Tatar
0.0 Roma_Unmixed_Moldova
0.0 Jewish_Unmixed_Moldova
0.0 RU_Pinega
0.0 Russian_Smolensk



Target: 3/4MDUkr_1/4PoltavaUA
Distance: 2.8850% / 2.88500993 | ADC: 0.25x
64.2 Ukrainian_Lviv
24.8 Moldova_Centre
9.4 Ukrainian
1.6 Crimean_Tatar
0.0 Moldova_South
0.0 Gagauz
0.0 Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk
0.0 Romania_Dobruja-Tatar
0.0 Roma_Unmixed_Moldova
0.0 Jewish_Unmixed_Moldova
0.0 RU_Pinega
0.0 Russian_Smolensk

Ion Basescul
07-14-2020, 09:22 PM
I'm starting to believe that Transnistrian Russians, at least those who haven't come to the region recently, are only cultural Russian, but genetically anything from Moldovan/Romanian to a mix of nations.

'Member that Transnistrian Russian from Bender/Tighina that someone's donated to me in the old thread and who looked far from being unmixed Russian?

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N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan

</tbody>
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<tbody>
19.49
39.49
12.12
12.18
8.25
0
3.82
1.27
0.87
0.89
1.11
0.51
0

</tbody>
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Now I talked to another person, who was also raised Russophone and Russian, in this case Tiraspol, but genetically could pass as a Moldovan from the North.
Luckily, in this case I also have the surname, which is of Moldovan/Romanian origin. So who knows how mixed they are, but at least paternally they should be Moldovan/Romanian.


<tbody>
#
Population
Percent


1
Baltic
33.01


2
North_Atlantic
28.21


3
West_Med
13.51


4
East_Med
9.41


5
West_Asian
8.62


6
South_Asian
2.53


7
Siberian
2.33


8
Red_Sea
1.69


9
Northeast_African
0.44


10
Sub-Saharan
0.25

</tbody>

Single Population Sharing:


<tbody>
#
Population (source)
Distance


1
Croatian
4.11


2
Moldavian
4.36


3
Hungarian
4.76


4
Serbian
8.19


5
Austrian
8.93


6
East_German
9.04


7
Ukrainian_Lviv
9.08


8
South_Polish
9.46


9
Ukrainian
10.52


10
Romanian
12.01


11
Polish
13.12


12
Southwest_Russian
14.1


13
Ukrainian_Belgorod
14.39


14
Bulgarian
14.53


15
Russian_Smolensk
15.45


16
Estonian_Polish
16.06


17
West_German
16.34


18
Belorussian
16.58


19
Southwest_Finnish
17.15


20
Kargopol_Russian
17.36

</tbody>

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:


<tbody>
#

Primary Population (source)
Secondary Population (source)
Distance


1

84.9%
Moldavian
+
15.1%
Danish
@
2.3


2

82.6%
Moldavian
+
17.4%
North_Swedish
@
2.31


3

84.2%
Moldavian
+
15.8%
Swedish
@
2.32


4

83.1%
Moldavian
+
16.9%
North_German
@
2.34


5

85.6%
Moldavian
+
14.4%
Norwegian
@
2.37


6

53%
Moldavian
+
47%
Hungarian
@
2.38


7

85.4%
Moldavian
+
14.6%
North_Dutch
@
2.45


8

70.7%
Moldavian
+
29.3%
East_German
@
2.45


9

86.3%
Moldavian
+
13.7%
Orcadian
@
2.49


10

87.3%
Moldavian
+
12.7%
West_Scottish
@
2.53


11

87%
Moldavian
+
13%
Irish
@
2.58


12

70.9%
Moldavian
+
29.1%
Austrian
@
2.59


13

86.4%
Moldavian
+
13.6%
Southeast_English
@
2.67


14

87.5%
Moldavian
+
12.5%
Southwest_English
@
2.72


15

84.1%
Moldavian
+
15.9%
South_Dutch
@
2.87


16

69.1%
Serbian
+
30.9%
Kargopol_Russian
@
2.9


17

83.4%
Moldavian
+
16.6%
West_German
@
2.97


18

76%
South_Polish
+
24%
Italian_Abruzzo
@
2.98


19

53%
Serbian
+
47%
Ukrainian_Lviv
@
3.01


20

72.9%
Serbian
+
27.1%
East_Finnish
@
3.02


</tbody>


<tbody>
Distance to:
Tiraspol


4.10188981
Moldova_North


9.60079684
Moldova_Centre


10.24145009
Ukrainian_Lviv


11.87092246
Ukrainian


14.84112866
Moldova_South


17.45899482
Russian_Smolensk


19.13915097
Gagauz


24.93225183
RU_Pinega


28.20566255
Crimean_Tatar


28.22675327
Romania_Dobruja-Tatar


39.84608387
Roma_Unmixed_Moldova


41.52381726
Jewish_Unmixed_Moldova


</tbody>

Target: Tiraspol
Distance: 3.5123% / 3.51227425 | ADC: 0.25x
78.0 Moldova_North
19.2 Ukrainian_Lviv
2.8 Roma_Unmixed_Moldova
0.0 Moldova_Centre
0.0 Moldova_South
0.0 Gagauz
0.0 Ukrainian
0.0 Romania_Dobruja-Tatar
0.0 Crimean_Tatar
0.0 Jewish_Unmixed_Moldova
0.0 RU_Pinega
0.0 Russian_Smolensk

If I were to remove Moldova_North, assuming that the local Moldovan profile in Tiraspol is more similar to Centre and South
Target: Tiraspol
Distance: 4.4574% / 4.45741077 | ADC: 0.25x
59.0 Ukrainian_Lviv
21.8 Moldova_South
16.0 Moldova_Centre
3.2 Roma_Unmixed_Moldova
0.0 Gagauz
0.0 Ukrainian
0.0 Romania_Dobruja-Tatar
0.0 Crimean_Tatar
0.0 Jewish_Unmixed_Moldova
0.0 RU_Pinega
0.0 Russian_Smolensk




I will count her in my spreadsheet as unmixed Moldovan from Transnistria, just because we don't have anyone else from there. But given that she was raised Russophone and to identify as Russian, she is very likely to be of mixed origin. She is more Northern-shifted than that Bender/Tighina Russian. But she is definitely not of unmixed Russian origin.

Ion Basescul
07-26-2020, 07:05 PM
Latest update
(+samples from
1) Soldanesti, Cotiujenii Mari
2) or. Nisporeni
3) Ialoveni, Bardar
4) 5 Jews
5) 3 Ukrainians
6) 1 Roma
7) Transnistrian from above)

https://i.imgur.com/Ypw1bhF.png

Ion Basescul
07-26-2020, 07:38 PM
Family's distance to the averages from R. Moldova

https://i.imgur.com/n8EExFE.png
https://i.imgur.com/ZfbLvRJ.png
https://i.imgur.com/vDZhzqE.png
https://i.imgur.com/97jpGpA.png

Aspirin
07-26-2020, 07:50 PM
People from Central and North areas still are very homogenous compared to the South after so many samples posted here. I don't think something will change in the future when more and more results will be posted.

Ion Basescul
07-26-2020, 07:50 PM
Family's distance to all samples from 1) Moldavia region, 2) R. Moldova

1)
https://i.imgur.com/mNpt5F2.png

2)
https://i.imgur.com/2zNMVS6.png

Ion Basescul
07-26-2020, 08:03 PM
People from Central and North areas still are very homogenous compared to the South after so many samples posted here. I don't think something will change in the future when more and more results will be posted.

I think the guys in the South are so too, to the same extent of similarity within the group as those in the Centre and North. There are outliers in every region.

The obvious outliers in the South are Moldova_76_StefanVoda and Moldova_79_StefanVoda, but the rest are pretty close to each other.

https://i.imgur.com/c3dYi1b.png

Ion Basescul
07-27-2020, 09:30 PM
From Edinet, family surname seems pretty Moldovan/Romanian to me and the person is Romanophone, but apparently it is the 2nd most popular in Chernivtsi oblast (https://forebears.io/ukraine/chernivtsi-oblast#surnames)

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 31.35
2 North_Atlantic 24.08
3 West_Med 16.41
4 West_Asian 11.3
5 East_Med 10.19
6 Red_Sea 2.94
7 Siberian 2.35
8 Oceanian 1.04
9 Amerindian 0.23
10 Northeast_African 0.12


Single Population Sharing:


# Population (source) Distance
1 Moldavian 3.56
2 Croatian 6.71
3 Serbian 6.94
4 Hungarian 9.05
5 Romanian 9.32
6 Bulgarian 11.21
7 Ukrainian_Lviv 12.06
8 Austrian 12.56
9 East_German 13.31
10 South_Polish 13.54
11 Ukrainian 13.73
12 Polish 16.78
13 Southwest_Russian 16.96
14 Ukrainian_Belgorod 17.07
15 Russian_Smolensk 18.66
16 Tatar 18.92
17 West_German 19.06
18 Estonian_Polish 19.37
19 Greek_Thessaly 19.67
20 Belorussian 20.13


Mixed Mode Population Sharing:


# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 92.4% Moldavian + 7.6% Italian_Abruzzo @ 2.87
2 92.8% Moldavian + 7.2% Central_Greek @ 2.91
3 93.9% Moldavian + 6.1% South_Italian @ 2.94
4 95.5% Moldavian + 4.5% Ossetian @ 2.94
5 93.2% Moldavian + 6.8% East_Sicilian @ 2.94
6 92.3% Moldavian + 7.7% Tuscan @ 2.95
7 94.9% Moldavian + 5.1% Turkish @ 2.96
8 93.3% Moldavian + 6.7% West_Sicilian @ 2.97
9 96% Moldavian + 4% Georgian @ 2.98
10 95.2% Moldavian + 4.8% Balkar @ 2.98
11 95.8% Moldavian + 4.2% Sardinian @ 2.99
12 96.3% Moldavian + 3.7% Abhkasian @ 3.01
13 96% Moldavian + 4% Armenian @ 3.01
14 95% Moldavian + 5% Sephardic_Jewish @ 3.01
15 95.2% Moldavian + 4.8% Kabardin @ 3.02
16 92.1% Moldavian + 7.9% North_Italian @ 3.02
17 95.7% Moldavian + 4.3% North_Ossetian @ 3.04
18 91.3% Moldavian + 8.7% Greek_Thessaly @ 3.04
19 82.7% Moldavian + 17.3% Romanian @ 3.04
20 95.7% Moldavian + 4.3% Cyprian @ 3.04



<tbody>
Distance to:
Edinet_ind


4.54684506
Moldova_North


6.01622805
Moldova_Centre


10.14687144
Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk


10.81313091
Moldova_South


13.66578209
Ukrainian_Lviv


14.61045858
Moldova_Gagauz


14.82105597
Moldova_Bulgarian


15.51257232
Ukrainian


21.10153549
Russian_Smolensk


25.85319129
Crimean_Tatar


26.58682568
Romania_Dobruja-Tatar


28.12956330
RU_Pinega


35.36152429
Moldova_Jewish


36.26067705
Moldova_Roma


</tbody>


Target: Edinet_ind
Distance: 3.6308% / 3.63082942 | ADC: 0.25x
83.0 Moldova_North
11.6 Moldova_South
5.4 Crimean_Tatar
0.0 Moldova_Centre
0.0 Moldova_Jewish
0.0 Moldova_Roma
0.0 Romania_Dobruja-Tatar
0.0 Ukrainian
0.0 Ukrainian_Lviv
0.0 Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk
0.0 RU_Pinega
0.0 Russian_Smolensk


<tbody>
Distance to:
Edinet_ind


3.51909079
Moldova_Straseni


4.48138371
Moldova_Glodeni


5.17064793
Moldova_Orhei


5.22603100
Moldova_Ocnita


5.27437200
Moldova_Calarasi


5.63093243
Romania_Moldavia_Suceava


5.69109831
Moldova_Balti


6.00970881
Moldova_Eurogenes


6.28161603
Romania_Moldavia_Botosani


6.31243218
Moldova_Ialoveni


6.56342898
Romania_Moldavia_Csango


6.58572699
Romania_Moldavia_Vaslui


6.58924123
Moldova_Chisinau


6.72878146
Moldova_Transnistria


6.93850128
Moldova_1/2Moldovan_1/2EastSlavic


7.12275228
Romania_Moldavia_Neamt


7.37913952
Moldova_Cimislia


7.57624577
Romania_Moldavia_Iasi


7.69922074
Moldova_Soldanesti


7.75187074
Romania_Moldavia_Bacau


8.06176780
Moldova_Ungheni


8.24074026
Moldova_Falesti


8.34991617
Moldova_Hincesti


8.47509292
Moldova_Nisporeni


8.51269053
Moldova_Edinet

</tbody>


Target: Edinet_ind
Distance: 2.2352% / 2.23515499 | ADC: 0.25x
55.2 Moldova_Straseni
39.0 Moldova_Glodeni
5.8 Moldova_Transnistria

Ion Basescul
07-27-2020, 09:40 PM
From Briceni, which makes them the second person from there, after my mom's maternal side



# Population Percent
1 Baltic 32.68
2 North_Atlantic 25.05
3 East_Med 13.32
4 West_Asian 12.66
5 West_Med 12.58
6 East_Asian 1.33
7 Siberian 0.85
8 Amerindian 0.7
9 Sub-Saharan 0.35
10 Northeast_African 0.23
11 Red_Sea 0.16
12 South_Asian 0.1


Single Population Sharing:


# Population (source) Distance
1 Moldavian 4.73
2 Croatian 6.86
3 Serbian 7.26
4 Hungarian 8.45
5 Romanian 9.6
6 Bulgarian 11.3
7 Ukrainian_Lviv 12.07
8 South_Polish 12.67
9 Austrian 12.89
10 Ukrainian 13.21
11 East_German 13.69
12 Ukrainian_Belgorod 15.58
13 Southwest_Russian 15.73
14 Polish 16.23
15 Russian_Smolensk 17.9
16 Estonian_Polish 18.65
17 Belorussian 19.13
18 Tatar 19.34
19 West_German 19.43
20 Kargopol_Russian 19.91


Mixed Mode Population Sharing:


# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 78.5% South_Polish + 21.5% Armenian @ 2.64
2 62.8% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 37.2% Italian_Abruzzo @ 2.67
3 62.6% Romanian + 37.4% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 2.83
4 74.8% South_Polish + 25.2% Turkish @ 2.9
5 78.5% South_Polish + 21.5% Assyrian @ 2.91
6 78.4% South_Polish + 21.6% Georgian_Jewish @ 3.09
7 58.4% Bulgarian + 41.6% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 3.11
8 85.2% Croatian + 14.8% Kumyk @ 3.15
9 88.9% Croatian + 11.1% Abhkasian @ 3.17
10 86.5% Croatian + 13.5% Azeri @ 3.17
11 87.7% Croatian + 12.3% Kurdish @ 3.17
12 88.1% Croatian + 11.9% Armenian @ 3.2
13 88.5% Croatian + 11.5% Georgian @ 3.27
14 88.1% Croatian + 11.9% Georgian_Jewish @ 3.32
15 85.9% Croatian + 14.1% Turkish @ 3.34
16 86.6% Croatian + 13.4% Adygei @ 3.37
17 86.1% Croatian + 13.9% Lezgin @ 3.43
18 79.4% South_Polish + 20.6% Kurdish_Jewish @ 3.44
19 86.5% Croatian + 13.5% Balkar @ 3.44
20 88.3% Croatian + 11.7% Assyrian @ 3.44



<tbody>
Distance to:
Briceni_ind


5.28367296
Moldova_North


6.03320810
Moldova_Centre


9.82607755
Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk


11.54358696
Moldova_South


13.81472403
Ukrainian_Lviv


14.79913849
Moldova_Gagauz


15.13473819
Ukrainian


15.88298146
Moldova_Bulgarian


20.40279883
Russian_Smolensk


26.34656904
Crimean_Tatar


27.73568279
Romania_Dobruja-Tatar


27.93108360
RU_Pinega


34.94860798
Moldova_Jewish


36.51686049
Moldova_Roma


</tbody>


Target: Briceni_ind
Distance: 4.3497% / 4.34971474 | ADC: 0.25x
51.6 Moldova_Centre
36.4 Moldova_North
9.8 Ukrainian
2.2 Crimean_Tatar
0.0 Moldova_South
0.0 Moldova_Jewish
0.0 Moldova_Roma
0.0 Romania_Dobruja-Tatar
0.0 Ukrainian_Lviv
0.0 Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk
0.0 RU_Pinega

Closest to my dad

<tbody>
Distance to:
Briceni_ind


3.73274698
Moldova_Orhei


4.95162600
Moldova_Balti


5.18075284
Moldova_Ialoveni


5.19748016
Romania_Moldavia_Suceava


5.35366230
Romania_Moldavia_Botosani


5.60364167
Moldova_Eurogenes


5.84782866
Moldova_Edinet


5.89392908
Moldova_Calarasi


6.08366666
Moldova_Straseni


6.38070529
Moldova_Glodeni


6.40254637
Moldova_Soldanesti


6.52168690
Moldova_Nisporeni


6.59229095
Moldova_Chisinau


6.75849096
Moldova_Ocnita


6.78079641
Romania_Moldavia_Neamt


6.98537043
Moldova_Floresti


7.02432915
Moldova_1/2Moldovan_1/2EastSlavic


7.07400170
Moldova_Rezina


7.09074044
Romania_Moldavia_Vaslui


7.16397934
Romania_Moldavia_Csango


7.16447486
Moldova_Cimislia


7.41687940
Romania_Moldavia_Iasi


7.43762731
Moldova_Transnistria


7.79615931
Moldova_Ungheni


8.39916663
Moldova_Falesti


</tbody>


Target: Briceni_ind
Distance: 2.2182% / 2.21817472 | ADC: 0.25x
63.8 Moldova_Orhei
28.4 Moldova_Floresti
5.4 Moldova_Ungheni
2.4 Moldova_Glodeni

Ion Basescul
07-27-2020, 09:48 PM
Distance (top 25) against all samples from Moldavia region


<tbody>
Distance to:
Edinet_ind


3.87247983
Romania_Moldavia_mixed_1_1/2Vaslui_1/2Ukrainian


3.92572286
Moldova_27_Straseni


4.09246869
Moldova_56_Chisinau_IonBasescul_brother


4.37627696
Moldova_69_Eurogenes


4.39629389
Moldova_68_Eurogenes


4.48138371
Moldova_8_Glodeni


4.52476519
Moldova_4_Ocnita


4.61093266
Moldova_1_Ocnita


4.66412907
Moldova_19_1/2Ungheni_1/2Straseni


4.68249933
Moldova_30_Balti


4.78501829
Moldova_25_Straseni


4.82840553
Moldova_55_Chisinau_IonBasescul


4.87279181
Moldova_15_Eurogenes


4.91411233
Moldova_mixed_54_1/2Ukrainian_1/2Moldovan


5.08908636
Moldova_11_Balti


5.16303205
Moldova_62_Ialoveni


5.17064793
Moldova_16_Orhei_IonBasescul_dad


5.27437200
Moldova_24_Calarasi


5.32570183
Moldova_39_Balti


5.69570013
Moldova_mixed_7_1/2Cahul_1/2BriceniUkrainian_IonBasescul_mom


6.11571746
Moldova_23_1/2Telenesti_1/2Ialoveni


6.43073091
Moldova_29_Balti


6.44660376
Moldova_32_Balti


6.47971450
Moldova_mixed_15_1/2Moldovan_1/2Ukrainian


6.48057868
Ukraine_unmixed1_Cernauti_Romanian

</tbody>


<tbody>
Distance to:
Briceni_ind


3.73274698
Moldova_16_Orhei_IonBasescul_dad


3.85990933
Moldova_19_1/2Ungheni_1/2Straseni


4.38525940
Moldova_62_Ialoveni


4.40144295
Moldova_56_Chisinau_IonBasescul_brother


4.80431056
Moldova_68_Eurogenes


4.83874984
Moldova_33_Balti


4.99141263
Moldova_50_Balti


5.04791046
Moldova_69_Eurogenes


5.09834287
Romania_Moldavia_mixed_1_1/2Vaslui_1/2Ukrainian


5.48120425
Moldova_23_1/2Telenesti_1/2Ialoveni


5.62930724
Moldova_55_Chisinau_IonBasescul


5.64311970
Moldova_mixed_7_1/2Cahul_1/2BriceniUkrainian_IonBasescul_mom


5.65129189
Moldova_mixed_54_1/2Ukrainian_1/2Moldovan


5.67485683
Moldova_38_Balti


5.67761394
Moldova_36_Balti


5.73284397
Moldova_15_Eurogenes


5.89392908
Moldova_24_Calarasi


5.95977349
Moldova_27_Straseni


5.97292223
Moldova_49_Balti


6.14689352
Moldova_34_Balti


6.38070529
Moldova_8_Glodeni


6.38817658
Moldova_60_Ialoveni


6.40254637
Moldova_12_Soldanesti


6.49766112
Moldova_7_Edinet


6.50935481
Moldova_53_Balti


</tbody>

Ion Basescul
08-06-2020, 02:45 PM
3/4 Hincesti, 1/4 Soldanesti (will count as Hincesti in my list)


# Population Percent
1 Baltic 29.55
2 North_Atlantic 23.31
3 West_Med 17.84
4 East_Med 16.55
5 West_Asian 7.3
6 South_Asian 1.96
7 Red_Sea 1.29
8 East_Asian 0.8
9 Amerindian 0.79
10 Oceanian 0.35
11 Siberian 0.24


Single Population Sharing:


# Population (source) Distance
1 Serbian 5.12
2 Romanian 6.14
3 Bulgarian 7.33
4 Moldavian 7.36
5 Croatian 9.61
6 Hungarian 10.89
7 Austrian 14.39
8 Greek_Thessaly 15.35
9 East_German 15.47
10 Ukrainian_Lviv 15.94
11 South_Polish 16.77
12 Ukrainian 16.94
13 North_Italian 18.93
14 West_German 19.8
15 Tuscan 20
16 Polish 20.15
17 Southwest_Russian 20.19
18 Ukrainian_Belgorod 20.61
19 French 20.77
20 South_Dutch 21.23


Mixed Mode Population Sharing:


# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 52.5% Greek_Thessaly + 47.5% Ukrainian @ 2.35
2 59.5% Greek_Thessaly + 40.5% Estonian_Polish @ 2.85
3 62.2% Croatian + 37.8% Greek_Thessaly @ 2.86
4 57% Greek_Thessaly + 43% Polish @ 2.87
5 77.5% Croatian + 22.5% Algerian_Jewish @ 2.89
6 64.5% Greek_Thessaly + 35.5% Lithuanian @ 2.96
7 61.5% Ukrainian + 38.5% South_Italian @ 2.96
8 57.9% Ukrainian + 42.1% West_Sicilian @ 2.96
9 65.4% Ukrainian + 34.6% Algerian_Jewish @ 2.97
10 72.9% Croatian + 27.1% Ashkenazi @ 3
11 52.3% Greek_Thessaly + 47.7% South_Polish @ 3.08
12 77.7% Croatian + 22.3% Italian_Jewish @ 3.11
13 51% Greek_Thessaly + 49% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 3.12
14 65.5% Ukrainian + 34.5% Italian_Jewish @ 3.12
15 64.2% Greek_Thessaly + 35.8% Estonian @ 3.13
16 60.3% Greek_Thessaly + 39.7% Belorussian @ 3.16
17 59.3% Greek_Thessaly + 40.7% Russian_Smolensk @ 3.2
18 58.6% Ukrainian + 41.4% East_Sicilian @ 3.23
19 71.8% Bulgarian + 28.2% Ukrainian @ 3.33
20 58% Bulgarian + 42% Croatian @ 3.35


<tbody>
Distance to:
3/4Hincesti_1/4Soldanesti


4.62386202
Moldova_Centre


6.92720001
Moldova_South


7.86728034
Moldova_North


10.69020580
Moldova_South_Gagauz


11.72506290
Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk


11.96853374
Moldova_Bulgarian


17.44825779
Moldova_Ukrainian


18.20553487
Ukrainian_Lviv


19.31222929
Ukrainian


25.09357089
Russian_Smolensk


28.15635630
Crimean_Tatar


29.53947528
Romania_Dobruja-Tatar


30.03505119
Moldova_Jewish


32.32944759
Russian_Pinega


33.72896381
Moldova_Roma

</tbody>

Target: 3/4Hincesti_1/4Soldanesti
Distance: 3.1049% / 3.10485864 | ADC: 0.25x
65.4 Moldova_South
34.6 Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk
0.0 Moldova_Centre
0.0 Moldova_North
0.0 Moldova_South_Gagauz
0.0 Moldova_Jewish
0.0 Moldova_Roma
0.0 Moldova_Ukrainian
0.0 Moldova_Bulgarian
0.0 Romania_Dobruja-Tatar
0.0 Crimean_Tatar
0.0 Ukrainian
0.0 Ukrainian_Lviv
0.0 Russian_Pinega
0.0 Russian_Smolensk

-Ukrainians, Russians, Moldova_South
Target: 3/4Hincesti_1/4Soldanesti
Distance: 4.2834% / 4.28336610 | ADC: 0.25x
65.8 Moldova_Centre
27.6 Moldova_North
6.6 Moldova_Jewish
0.0 Moldova_Roma
0.0 Moldova_Ukrainian
0.0 Moldova_Bulgarian
0.0 Romania_Dobruja-Tatar
0.0 Crimean_Tatar





<tbody>
Distance to:
3/4Hincesti_1/4Soldanesti


4.64711739
Moldova_Eurogenes


4.65528732
Moldova_Causeni


4.87877034
Moldova_Chisinau


4.91470243
Moldova_Nisporeni


5.13255297
Moldova_Ialoveni


5.39092756
Moldova_Balti


5.39486793
Moldova_Ungheni


5.74049649
Moldova_Calarasi


5.78927457
Moldova_Straseni


5.84130122
Moldova_Cimislia


5.87975340
Moldova_Soldanesti


5.96457040
Moldova_Ocnita


7.03042673
Moldova_Cahul


7.11886929
Moldova_Falesti


7.30320478
Moldova_Hincesti


8.36013158
Moldova_StefanVoda


9.07155444
Moldova_Orhei


9.11813577
Moldova_Edinet


9.23851178
Moldova_Briceni


10.38773796
Moldova_Cantemir


10.42263402
Moldova_Glodeni


10.67465222
Moldova_Transnistria


10.76658720
Moldova_Rezina


10.93140888
Moldova_1/2Moldovan_1/2EastSlavic


10.98789789
Moldova_Floresti

</tbody>


Target: 3/4Hincesti_1/4Soldanesti
Distance: 2.3702% / 2.37018435 | ADC: 0.25x
37.0 Moldova_Causeni
23.8 Moldova_Falesti
12.0 Moldova_Hincesti
8.8 Moldova_Ocnita
8.8 Moldova_Soldanesti
8.4 Moldova_Cantemir
1.2 Moldova_Roma

Ion Basescul
08-06-2020, 02:50 PM
3/4 Hincesti, 1/4 Soldanesti (will count as Hincesti in my list)


Distance (top 25) against all samples from Moldavia region.


<tbody>
Distance to:
3/4Hincesti_1/4Soldanesti


2.62034349
Romania_Moldavia_54_Galati


2.78194177
Romania_Moldavia_31_Neamt


4.16710931
Romania_Moldavia_34_Vaslui


4.27121762
Romania_Moldavia_3_Botosani


4.30477642
Moldova_3_Ocnita


4.33019630
Moldova_34_Balti


4.50819254
Moldova_45_Balti


4.57886449
Romania_Moldavia_21_Iasi


4.62366738
Romania_Moldavia_44_Bacau


4.65528732
Moldova_66_Causeni


4.79529978
Moldova_61_Ialoveni


4.91470243
Moldova_22_Nisporeni


4.99523773
Romania_Moldavia_25_Iasi


5.03941465
Moldova_26_Straseni


5.05288037
Romania_Moldavia_38_1/2Vaslui_1/2Galati


5.15619045
Moldova_31_Balti


5.17791464
Moldova_36_Balti


5.18612572
Romania_Moldavia_11_Botosani


5.26531101
Romania_Moldavia_51_Galati


5.49745396
Moldova_mixed_18_1/2Moldovan_1/2Bulgarian


5.50666868
Moldova_42_Balti


5.53297388
Romania_Moldavia_9_Botosani


5.64322603
Romania_Moldavia_26_Iasi


5.64322603
Romania_Moldavia_40_Bacau


5.64428915
Moldova_62_Ialoveni

</tbody>

Dunai
08-15-2020, 12:41 PM
I received recently a Romanian average from Ion Basescul, and was curious to run it through K13 Updated, letting only national aggregates (unfortunately Greeks, Torbeshi, Vlachs and Pomaks don't have one yet, that's why they appear so often):

Target: Romanian
Distance: 0.7417% / 0.74167430 | ADC: 0.5x
56.0 Macedonian
26.4 Montenegrin
16.2 Moldovan
1.4 Crimean_Tatar

Distance to: Romanian
2.03322404 Montenegrin
2.12839776 Macedonian
3.90952683 Bulgarian
4.56164444 Serb
4.92221495 Moldovan
5.67039681 Pomak_Nevrokopi
5.91614740 Pomak_Plovdiv
6.60110597 Gagauz
6.83674630 Bosniak
7.50023333 Pomak_Kavala
7.72308229 Vlach_North-Macedonia-Highlander
7.99859363 Vlach_North-Macedonia
8.43979858 Pomak_Central-Macedonia
8.67779926 Pomak_Drama
9.13902074 Greek_Northern-Thrace
9.32796334 Torbeshi
10.16675568 Kosovo_Albanian
10.43984674 Greek_Western-Macedonia
10.51322500 Croat
10.59580106 Greek_Thessaloniki
10.97196427 Greek_Central-Macedonia
11.32749752 Pomak_Komotini
11.45961169 Albanian
12.89486720 Greek_Eastern-Macedonia
12.90627754 Hungarian

vbnetkhio
08-15-2020, 12:48 PM
I received recently a Romanian average from Ion Basescul, and was curious to run it through K13 Updated, letting only national aggregates (unfortunately Greeks, Torbeshi and Pomaks don't have one yet):

Target: Romanian
Distance: 0.7417% / 0.74167430 | ADC: 0.5x
56.0 Macedonian
26.4 Montenegrin
16.2 Moldovan
1.4 Crimean_Tatar

Distance to: Romanian
2.03322404 Montenegrin
2.12839776 Macedonian
3.90952683 Bulgarian
4.56164444 Serb
4.92221495 Moldovan
6.60110597 Gagauz
6.83674630 Bosniak
7.99859363 Vlach
8.43979858 Pomak
9.13902074 Greek_Northern-Thrace
9.32796334 Torbeshi
10.16675568 Kosovo_Albanian
10.43984674 Greek_Western-Macedonia
10.51322500 Croat
10.59580106 Greek_Thessaloniki
10.97196427 Greek_Central-Macedonia
11.45961169 Albanian
12.89486720 Greek_Eastern-Macedonia
12.90627754 Hungarian
12.93523354 GR_Macedonia
13.49921528 Slovenian
13.74609035 Greek_Thessaly

here you go.
Torbesh,21.55,17.67,22.34,10.48,23.69,2.25,0.00,0. 51,0.48,0.79,0.25,0.00,0.00
Vlach,22.79,20.37,18.82,11.31,21.00,3.85,0.00,0.17 ,0.49,0.51,0.40,0.07,0.00
Pomak,18.95,24.66,16.75,13.16,20.92,2.53,0.41,0.84 ,0.71,0.38,0.35,0.05,0.06

Greeks are too diverse for a single average, i would add Central Greek, Pontic Greek and Cypriot to the model.

Ion Basescul
08-15-2020, 12:57 PM
I received recently a Romanian average from Ion Basescul, and was curious to run it through K13 Updated, letting only national aggregates (unfortunately Greeks, Torbeshi, Vlachs and Pomaks don't have one yet, that's why they appear so often):

Target: Romanian
Distance: 0.7417% / 0.74167430 | ADC: 0.5x
56.0 Macedonian
26.4 Montenegrin
16.2 Moldovan
1.4 Crimean_Tatar

Distance to: Romanian
2.03322404 Montenegrin
2.12839776 Macedonian
3.90952683 Bulgarian
4.56164444 Serb
4.92221495 Moldovan
5.67039681 Pomak_Nevrokopi
5.91614740 Pomak_Plovdiv
6.60110597 Gagauz
6.83674630 Bosniak
7.50023333 Pomak_Kavala
7.72308229 Vlach_North-Macedonia-Highlander
7.99859363 Vlach_North-Macedonia
8.43979858 Pomak_Central-Macedonia
8.67779926 Pomak_Drama
9.13902074 Greek_Northern-Thrace
9.32796334 Torbeshi
10.16675568 Kosovo_Albanian
10.43984674 Greek_Western-Macedonia
10.51322500 Croat
10.59580106 Greek_Thessaloniki
10.97196427 Greek_Central-Macedonia
11.32749752 Pomak_Komotini
11.45961169 Albanian
12.89486720 Greek_Eastern-Macedonia
12.90627754 Hungarian

Just adding some details for those who are not aware. This average was made by taking all my county averages that you see posted in my threads. Then those county averages were weighted against the population distribution in Romania. Then the weighted coordinates were summed, providing the following best average for Romanians from Romania as of yet:

Romania_Weighted_Average,23.10,26.01,17.24,10.49,1 7.62,1.93,0.73,0.68,1.15,0.49,0.35,0.13,0.09

https://i.imgur.com/i04MMpe.png

vbnetkhio
08-15-2020, 01:08 PM
Just adding some details for those who are not aware. This average was made by taking all my county averages that you see posted in my threads. Then those county averages were weighted against the population distribution in Romania. Then the weighted coordinates were summed, providing the following best average for Romanians from Romania as of yet:

Romania_Weighted_Average,23.10,26.01,17.24,10.49,1 7.62,1.93,0.73,0.68,1.15,0.49,0.35,0.13,0.09

https://i.imgur.com/i04MMpe.png

does municipul Buchuresti inlcude the city of Buchurest or just the area around it?

Dunai
08-15-2020, 01:24 PM
here you go.
Torbesh,21.55,17.67,22.34,10.48,23.69,2.25,0.00,0. 51,0.48,0.79,0.25,0.00,0.00
Vlach,22.79,20.37,18.82,11.31,21.00,3.85,0.00,0.17 ,0.49,0.51,0.40,0.07,0.00
Pomak,18.95,24.66,16.75,13.16,20.92,2.53,0.41,0.84 ,0.71,0.38,0.35,0.05,0.06

Greeks are too diverse for a single average, i would add Central Greek, Pontic Greek and Cypriot to the model.

I believe these aggregates should also be added to Vahaduo, good job. When it comes to Greeks, I believe Central Greek may refer to simply as Greek, since that's the entire country of Greece. Almost every country has national aggregates, even if there are regional differences to some extent.

vbnetkhio
08-15-2020, 01:26 PM
I believe these aggregates should also be added to Vahaduo, good job. When it comes to Greeks, I believe Central Greek may refer to simply as Greek, since that's the entire country of Greece. Almost every country has national aggregates, even if there are regional differences to some extent.

central Greeks are from the Athens region.

Dunai
08-15-2020, 01:28 PM
central Greeks are from the Athens region.

Didn't knew that. And do you think there shouldn't be any Greek aggregate that collects all regions of Greece? I noticed the same is with Russians, Germans, Dutch, Spanish, Italians, that they don't have a national aggregate, only regional ones.

vbnetkhio
08-15-2020, 01:52 PM
Didn't knew that. And do you think there shouldn't be any Greek aggregate that collects all regions of Greece? I noticed the same is with Russians, Germans, Dutch, Spanish, Italians, that they don't have a national aggregate, only regional ones.

those averages probably wouldn't be very useful for modelling purposes.
it would still be interesting to see them. but they would need to be carefully weighted by population size.

also, a 100 years old or more census would have to be used if possible. because, for example, it makes no sense to multiyply the average of the natives of Athens region by 3 million, just because 3 million people from all over Greece live there now.

Ion Basescul
08-15-2020, 01:56 PM
does municipul Buchuresti inlcude the city of Buchurest or just the area around it?

That's only the city, but the surrounding area is called Ilfov. You can also see it in the list.

Dunai
08-15-2020, 02:24 PM
those averages probably wouldn't be very useful for modelling purposes.
it would still be interesting to see them. but they would need to be carefully weighted by population size.

also, a 100 years old or more census would have to be used if possible. because, for example, it makes no sense to multiyply the average of the natives of Athens region by 3 million, just because 3 million people from all over Greece live there now.

I don't think it is so illogical to have national aggregates, since all current European countries are nation-states and not region-states. Of course the minorities of a given country shouldn't be calculated into the national aggregate, but honestly, to most people in the real world, they speak of Spanish, Greeks, Germans, Italians, Russians, and very rarely they make the distinction of referring to Thessalians, Westphalians, Apulians, Novgorodians, etc. Me personally, I do like to see what an average Spanish, Polish, Turkish, Irish, Greek or anyone else looks like genetically.

vbnetkhio
08-15-2020, 02:33 PM
I don't think it is so illogical to have national aggregates, since all current European countries are nation-states and not region-states. Of course the minorities of a given country shouldn't be calculated into the national aggregate, but honestly, to most people in the real world, they speak of Spanish, Greeks, Germans, Italians, Russians, and very rarely they make the distinction of referring to Thessalians, Westphalians, Apulians, Novgorodians, etc. Me personally, I do like to see what an average Spanish, Polish, Turkish, Irish, Greek or anyone else looks like genetically.

all that is true, i just meant those averages aren't very useful for somebody searching for his ancestry, because his Greek ancestry could be from Pontic Greeks, who are genetically very different from the average Greeks, and other similar situations.

Dunai
08-15-2020, 02:45 PM
all that is true, i just meant those averages aren't very useful for somebody searching for his ancestry, because his Greek ancestry could be from Pontic Greeks, who are genetically very different from the average Greeks, and other similar situations.

My point wasn't to exclude the already established regional aggregates, but to add also national ones. For example I like to run customized calculators by focusing only on the larger picture, like nations, and on such occasions I do exclude regions from the Source, which sometimes show way too bloated and repetitive results. Like for example rather than having 7 Hungarian regions in my top 10 distances, I would rather have one that represents the aggregate of Hungarians. Of course other times I do enjoy the quirks of all the small regional break-downs, but I would rather have the option to choose.

vbnetkhio
08-15-2020, 02:53 PM
My point wasn't to exclude the already established regional aggregates, but to add also national ones. For example I like to run customized calculators by focusing only on the larger picture, like nations, and on such occasions I do exclude regions from the Source, which sometimes show way too bloated and repetitive results. Like for example rather than having 7 Hungarian regions in my top 10 distances, I would rather have one that represents the aggregate of Hungarians. Of course other times I do enjoy the quirks of all the small regional break-downs, but I would rather have the option to choose.

a simplified spreadsheet, i get it.

Leto
08-15-2020, 02:53 PM
National average do make sense but largely in the case of more homogeneous nations. However splitting hairs isn't good in my opinion. For example having 5-6 different Balkan Turk averages or something like that is completely unnecessary. Especially if they're based on 2-3 samples each.

Dunai
08-15-2020, 03:18 PM
National average do make sense but largely in the case of more homogeneous nations. However splitting hairs isn't good in my opinion. For example having 5-6 different Balkan Turk averages or something like that is completely unnecessary. Especially if they're based on 2-3 samples each.

I agree with this. I do agree that if there are historical reasons for certain regions of a given nation were more isolated from the rest of the other regions, then their result shouldn't be included into the national average. As an example, I didn't include Eastern Hungarian (Transylvanian, Székely, Csįngó) samples into the Hungarian aggregate, since they lived more isolated from other Hungarian regions of the Carpathian Basin, and they do have slight different results compared to other Hungarian regions, which historically went through internal migration, and have mixed more with each other.

Ion Basescul
08-17-2020, 09:09 PM
Hi IB,

That PCA from the previous thread was interesting:
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?318490-Moldovan-Romanian-GEDmatch-Resuts&p=6789954&viewfull=1#post6789954

Can you do another PCA with ethnic Romanians from the 3 historic provinces + RM? (4 groups on the PCA)

Here you go, only unmixed ethnic Romanians/Moldovans (422 samples):

Left = North Atlantic (Northwestern) shift
Right = no idea
Up = Baltic (Northeastern) shift
Down = Med (Southern) shift


https://i.imgur.com/iFiZKeZ.png?1

Ion Basescul
08-17-2020, 09:27 PM
Here you go, only unmixed ethnic Romanians/Moldovans (422 samples):

Left = North Atlantic (Northwestern) shift
Right = no idea
Up = Baltic (Northeastern) shift
Down = Med (Southern) shift


https://i.imgur.com/iFiZKeZ.png?1

+ minorities, but without Jews and Roma, because then the rest will be too close together to understand the graph

https://i.imgur.com/tTzmrC1.png

Ion Basescul
08-17-2020, 09:54 PM
+ minorities, but without Jews and Roma, because then the rest will be too close together to understand the graph

https://i.imgur.com/tTzmrC1.png

Same PCA, but limited to the region of Moldavia

https://i.imgur.com/s4ceEIN.png

Ion Basescul
08-17-2020, 10:27 PM
Top 50 distances, all family + other users from Moldova - Zmey Gorynych, Daos and his dad

https://i.imgur.com/cw4Hq0V.png

https://i.imgur.com/xyWttsL.png

https://i.imgur.com/W9DRFb4.png

Dad is the only reference for Orhei, hence the distance of 0
https://i.imgur.com/m0YUe15.png

https://i.imgur.com/VGX86ms.png

https://i.imgur.com/McoIRRG.png

https://i.imgur.com/T8zarE2.png

Ion Basescul
08-17-2020, 10:43 PM
Top 50 distances, all family + other users from Moldova - Zmey Gorynych, Daos and his dad



Jó estét kķvįnok, it looks like I should work at the Hungarian embassy in Moldova.


<tbody>
Distance to:
Ion_Basescul_23andme+LivingDNA


3.22308858
Romania_Moldavia_Csango


4.91383760
Romania_Transylvania_Szekler


5.67508590
Romania_Transylvania_Hungarian

</tbody>


<tbody>
Distance to:
Ion_Basescul_brother_MyHeritage


7.37862453
Romania_Moldavia_Csango


7.74595378
Romania_Transylvania_Hungarian


8.96302404
Romania_Transylvania_Szekler

</tbody>


<tbody>
Distance to:
Ion_Basescul_mother_MyHeritage


7.81368671
Romania_Transylvania_Hungarian


8.70105741
Romania_Moldavia_Csango


10.02184115
Romania_Transylvania_Szekler

</tbody>


<tbody>
Distance to:
Ion_Basescul_father_MyHeritage


5.91799797
Romania_Transylvania_Hungarian


6.04860314
Romania_Moldavia_Csango


7.17375076
Romania_Transylvania_Szekler

</tbody>


<tbody>
Distance to:
Zmey_Gorynych_1/2Telenesti_1/2Ialoveni


7.51664154
Romania_Transylvania_Hungarian


7.89787313
Romania_Moldavia_Csango


9.06112024
Romania_Transylvania_Szekler

</tbody>


<tbody>
Distance to:
Daos_3/4Slavic_1/4Drochia


9.03240832
Romania_Transylvania_Hungarian


11.70947907
Romania_Moldavia_Csango


12.20018033
Romania_Transylvania_Szekler

</tbody>


<tbody>
Distance to:
Daos_dad_1/2Slavic_1/2Drochia


10.01790896
Romania_Transylvania_Hungarian


12.43022124
Romania_Moldavia_Csango


13.32729905
Romania_Transylvania_Szekler

</tbody>

andre
08-17-2020, 11:12 PM
Jó estét kķvįnok, it looks like I should work at the Hungarian embassy in Moldova.


<tbody>
Distance to:
Ion_Basescul_23andme+LivingDNA


3.22308858
Romania_Moldavia_Csango


4.91383760
Romania_Transylvania_Szekler


5.67508590
Romania_Transylvania_Hungarian

</tbody>


<tbody>
Distance to:
Ion_Basescul_brother_MyHeritage


7.37862453
Romania_Moldavia_Csango


7.74595378
Romania_Transylvania_Hungarian


8.96302404
Romania_Transylvania_Szekler

</tbody>


<tbody>
Distance to:
Ion_Basescul_mother_MyHeritage


7.81368671
Romania_Transylvania_Hungarian


8.70105741
Romania_Moldavia_Csango


10.02184115
Romania_Transylvania_Szekler

</tbody>


<tbody>
Distance to:
Ion_Basescul_father_MyHeritage


5.91799797
Romania_Transylvania_Hungarian


6.04860314
Romania_Moldavia_Csango


7.17375076
Romania_Transylvania_Szekler

</tbody>


<tbody>
Distance to:
Zmey_Gorynych_1/2Telenesti_1/2Ialoveni


7.51664154
Romania_Transylvania_Hungarian


7.89787313
Romania_Moldavia_Csango


9.06112024
Romania_Transylvania_Szekler

</tbody>


<tbody>
Distance to:
Daos_3/4Slavic_1/4Drochia


9.03240832
Romania_Transylvania_Hungarian


11.70947907
Romania_Moldavia_Csango


12.20018033
Romania_Transylvania_Szekler

</tbody>


<tbody>
Distance to:
Daos_dad_1/2Slavic_1/2Drochia


10.01790896
Romania_Transylvania_Hungarian


12.43022124
Romania_Moldavia_Csango


13.32729905
Romania_Transylvania_Szekler

</tbody>

Ahahahhaahhahha

Leto
08-21-2020, 08:33 PM
The last name is literally "Moldovan" (Christine Moldovan)

Eurogenes K13 Oracle results:

Kit RA4927426

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 25.03
2 North_Atlantic 24.67
3 East_Med 17.48
4 West_Med 16.77
5 West_Asian 7.82
6 South_Asian 2.06
7 Oceanian 1.57
8 Amerindian 1.5
9 Siberian 1.16
10 Red_Sea 1.08
11 Sub-Saharan 0.36
12 East_Asian 0.31
13 Northeast_African 0.21

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Romanian 4.09
2 Serbian 4.82
3 Bulgarian 5.77
4 Moldavian 10.06
5 Hungarian 11.71
6 Croatian 12.53
7 Greek_Thessaly 12.81
8 Austrian 14.56
9 North_Italian 15.9
10 East_German 16.21
11 Tuscan 16.64
12 West_German 18.12
13 French 18.56
14 Italian_Abruzzo 18.91
15 Ukrainian_Lviv 18.91
16 South_Polish 19.51
17 South_Dutch 19.74
18 Portuguese 19.82
19 West_Sicilian 19.91
20 Central_Greek 19.94

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 68.2% Greek_Thessaly + 31.8% Southwest_Finnish @ 2.84
2 50.2% West_Sicilian + 49.8% Ukrainian @ 2.87
3 60.1% West_Sicilian + 39.9% Estonian @ 3.04
4 70.1% Greek_Thessaly + 29.9% Finnish @ 3.2
5 61.9% Croatian + 38.1% West_Sicilian @ 3.2
6 51.3% Ukrainian_Lviv + 48.7% West_Sicilian @ 3.22
7 70.5% Greek_Thessaly + 29.5% Estonian @ 3.24
8 52.4% Hungarian + 47.6% Greek_Thessaly @ 3.27
9 50.5% South_Polish + 49.5% West_Sicilian @ 3.27
10 56.4% West_Sicilian + 43.6% Estonian_Polish @ 3.31
11 60.9% West_Sicilian + 39.1% Lithuanian @ 3.32
12 55.5% South_Italian + 44.5% Estonian @ 3.34
13 53.8% West_Sicilian + 46.2% Polish @ 3.37
14 58.6% Tuscan + 41.4% Southwest_Russian @ 3.41
15 70.4% Croatian + 29.6% Italian_Jewish @ 3.43
16 63.4% Tuscan + 36.6% Erzya @ 3.44
17 54% West_Sicilian + 46% Southwest_Russian @ 3.45
18 56% West_Sicilian + 44% Russian_Smolensk @ 3.48
19 60.9% Greek_Thessaly + 39.1% South_Polish @ 3.49
20 67.5% Moldavian + 32.5% West_Sicilian @ 3.5


Eurogenes EUtest V2 K15 Oracle results:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Atlantic 16.78
2 North_Sea 16.65
3 East_Med 13.91
4 Baltic 13.17
5 West_Med 12.85
6 Eastern_Euro 12.23
7 West_Asian 7.76
8 South_Asian 1.6
9 Oceanian 1.45
10 Red_Sea 1.2
11 Amerindian 1.14
12 Siberian 0.45
13 Southeast_Asian 0.4
14 Sub-Saharan 0.25
15 Northeast_African 0.17

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Serbian 4.31
2 Romanian 5.29
3 Bulgarian 6.91
4 Moldavian 10.07
5 Austrian 10.71
6 Hungarian 11.24
7 Croatian 11.49
8 Greek_Thessaly 12.4
9 Greek 13.17
10 North_Italian 13.8
11 Tuscan 14.27
12 East_German 14.6
13 French 16.16
14 Italian_Abruzzo 16.63
15 Spanish_Galicia 16.86
16 Portuguese 16.99
17 South_Dutch 17.11
18 Spanish_Cataluna 17.39
19 West_German 17.54
20 Ukrainian_Lviv 17.64

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 86.6% Serbian + 13.4% West_Sicilian @ 3.37
2 82.7% Serbian + 17.3% Greek @ 3.38
3 62.1% Greek + 37.9% Southwest_Finnish @ 3.38
4 62.2% Tuscan + 37.8% Kargopol_Russian @ 3.39
5 90.8% Serbian + 9.2% Algerian_Jewish @ 3.42
6 90.8% Serbian + 9.2% Italian_Jewish @ 3.5
7 89.6% Serbian + 10.4% South_Italian @ 3.53
8 91.4% Serbian + 8.6% Sephardic_Jewish @ 3.58
9 88.1% Serbian + 11.9% Central_Greek @ 3.58
10 83.3% Serbian + 16.7% Greek_Thessaly @ 3.59
11 92.6% Serbian + 7.4% Tunisian_Jewish @ 3.6
12 88.8% Serbian + 11.2% East_Sicilian @ 3.61
13 85.5% Serbian + 14.5% Tuscan @ 3.61
14 88.2% Serbian + 11.8% Ashkenazi @ 3.62
15 87.5% Serbian + 12.5% Italian_Abruzzo @ 3.62
16 64.4% Tuscan + 35.6% Erzya @ 3.63
17 93.2% Serbian + 6.8% Cyprian @ 3.63
18 92.9% Serbian + 7.1% Libyan_Jewish @ 3.64
19 94.3% Serbian + 5.7% Sardinian @ 3.69
20 97.8% Serbian + 2.2% NAN_Melanesian @ 3.7

Ion Basescul
08-21-2020, 08:37 PM
The last name is literally "Moldovan"



If the last name is Moldovan, then it's very likely that she's not from the region of Moldavia. Probably Transylvania, but I'll have to ask to be sure.

ixulescu
08-21-2020, 08:59 PM
Here you go, only unmixed ethnic Romanians/Moldovans (422 samples):

Left = North Atlantic (Northwestern) shift
Right = no idea
Up = Baltic (Northeastern) shift
Down = Med (Southern) shift


https://i.imgur.com/iFiZKeZ.png?1

Interesting, nice work!

Some comments to the PCA:

1. It's interesting how RM occupies a larger space than Romania, probably because of the recent East Slavic admixture.

2. Botosani, Suceava and Tulcea get into the RM area for obvious reasons, though I did expect Vaslui to be there as well.

3. Timis is close to Bucharest - this one is wild, although we knew that Banat is pretty dark - it's not that surprising considering that it was populated with Olteni and Serbs in the 18th century.

4. you can rotate the PCA 45 degrees clockwise so that we can align the cardinal directions better.

Ion Basescul
08-29-2020, 10:58 PM
First results from Telenesti (Republic of Moldova) and I got two of them at once. Nice

https://i.imgur.com/9DOx1Ch.jpg

I think this one is almost identical to mine.


<tbody>
North_Atlantic
25.38 Pct


Baltic
29.74 Pct


West_Med
14.85 Pct


West_Asian
10.34 Pct


East_Med
12.30 Pct


Red_Sea
2.85 Pct


South_Asian
1.14 Pct


East_Asian
0.60 Pct


Siberian
1.35 Pct


Amerindian
0.91 Pct


Oceanian
0.45 Pct


Northeast_African
-


Sub-Saharan
0.10 Pct

</tbody>


<tbody>
North_Atlantic
23.95 Pct


Baltic
32.71 Pct


West_Med
13.95 Pct


West_Asian
12.72 Pct


East_Med
11.65 Pct


Red_Sea
1.60 Pct


South_Asian
0.21 Pct


East_Asian
0.25 Pct


Siberian
2.85 Pct


Amerindian
-


Oceanian
-


Northeast_African
-


Sub-Saharan
0.10 Pct

</tbody>

Ion Basescul
08-29-2020, 11:10 PM
# Population Percent
1 Baltic 29.74
2 North_Atlantic 25.38
3 West_Med 14.85
4 East_Med 12.3
5 West_Asian 10.34
6 Red_Sea 2.85
7 Siberian 1.35
8 South_Asian 1.14
9 Amerindian 0.91
10 East_Asian 0.6
11 Oceanian 0.45
12 Sub-Saharan 0.1


Single Population Sharing:


# Population (source) Distance
1 Moldavian 4.09
2 Serbian 4.3
3 Croatian 6.9
4 Romanian 7.25
5 Hungarian 7.53
6 Bulgarian 9.58
7 Austrian 11.36
8 East_German 12.5
9 Ukrainian_Lviv 13.02
10 South_Polish 13.97
11 Ukrainian 14.57
12 West_German 17.42
13 Polish 17.46
14 Southwest_Russian 17.79
15 Ukrainian_Belgorod 17.93
16 Greek_Thessaly 18.09
17 South_Dutch 18.9
18 Russian_Smolensk 19.51
19 French 19.61
20 Tatar 19.9


Mixed Mode Population Sharing:


# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 64.8% Ukrainian_Lviv + 35.2% Italian_Abruzzo @ 1.12
2 51.5% Moldavian + 48.5% Serbian @ 1.67
3 86.6% Moldavian + 13.4% Italian_Abruzzo @ 1.74
4 64.7% Romanian + 35.3% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 1.75
5 65.7% Moldavian + 34.3% Romanian @ 1.84
6 85.8% Moldavian + 14.2% Tuscan @ 1.85
7 87.7% Moldavian + 12.3% West_Sicilian @ 2
8 62.3% Ukrainian + 37.7% Italian_Abruzzo @ 2.02
9 69.4% Ukrainian_Lviv + 30.6% South_Italian @ 2.02
10 90.7% Moldavian + 9.3% Sephardic_Jewish @ 2.06
11 78.4% Croatian + 21.6% Italian_Abruzzo @ 2.12
12 66.5% Ukrainian_Lviv + 33.5% West_Sicilian @ 2.2
13 89.5% Moldavian + 10.5% South_Italian @ 2.22
14 51.4% Croatian + 48.6% Romanian @ 2.23
15 91% Moldavian + 9% Italian_Jewish @ 2.24
16 88.4% Moldavian + 11.6% East_Sicilian @ 2.24
17 85.7% Moldavian + 14.3% North_Italian @ 2.25
18 65.9% Ukrainian_Lviv + 34.1% Central_Greek @ 2.25
19 71.6% Romanian + 28.4% Polish @ 2.27
20 91.7% Moldavian + 8.3% Tunisian_Jewish @ 2.28


<tbody>
Distance to:
Moldova_Telenesti_1


4.30571713
Moldova_North


4.31678121
Moldova_Centre


9.15156817
Moldova_South


10.29519305
Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk


12.94660959
Moldova_Bulgarian


13.42686114
Moldova_South_Gagauz


14.82542411
Ukrainian_Lviv


14.87218881
Moldova_Ukrainian


16.54844101
Ukrainian


22.13887531
Russian_Smolensk


25.87772594
Crimean_Tatar


27.24859079
Romania_Dobruja-Tatar


29.47454718
Russian_Pinega


33.24506881
Moldova_Jewish


34.66162864
Moldova_Roma

</tbody>


Target: Moldova_Telenesti_1
Distance: 1.6154% / 1.61536037 | ADC: 0.25x
77.6 Moldova_North
20.4 Moldova_Bulgarian
1.6 Crimean_Tatar
0.4 Moldova_Roma

-Bulgarian
Target: Moldova_Telenesti_1
Distance: 2.2084% / 2.20839460 | ADC: 0.25x
75.0 Moldova_North
21.0 Moldova_South
2.2 Moldova_Roma
1.8 Crimean_Tatar

-Moldova_South, Gagauz
Target: Moldova_Telenesti_1
Distance: 2.5055% / 2.50553275 | ADC: 0.25x
59.0 Moldova_North
37.2 Moldova_Centre
2.6 Moldova_Roma
1.2 Crimean_Tatar


<tbody>
Distance to:
Moldova_Telenesti_1


2.21522008
Moldova_Straseni


2.22409532
Moldova_Calarasi


3.50257048
Moldova_Balti


4.20316547
Moldova_Orhei


4.44967415
Moldova_Ocnita


4.63688473
Moldova_Chisinau


4.83390112
Moldova_Ialoveni


4.88221261
Moldova_Eurogenes


5.25709045
Moldova_Nisporeni


5.45809491
Moldova_Briceni


6.13617959
Moldova_Transnistria


6.24622286
Moldova_Edinet


6.30446667
Moldova_Cimislia


6.57488403
Moldova_Ungheni


6.90773480
Moldova_Soldanesti


7.03299367
Moldova_Glodeni


7.18874120
Moldova_Falesti


7.32117477
Moldova_Causeni


7.67328482
Moldova_Rezina


7.77305603
Moldova_1/2Moldovan_1/2EastSlavic


8.38401455
Moldova_Hincesti


8.91208169
Moldova_Cahul


9.69128474
Moldova_Floresti


10.61748087
Moldova_StefanVoda


12.81860367
Moldova_Cantemir

</tbody>

Ion Basescul
08-29-2020, 11:12 PM
# Population Percent
1 Baltic 32.71
2 North_Atlantic 23.95
3 West_Med 13.95
4 West_Asian 12.72
5 East_Med 11.65
6 Siberian 2.85
7 Red_Sea 1.6
8 East_Asian 0.25
9 South_Asian 0.21
10 Sub-Saharan 0.1


Single Population Sharing:


# Population (source) Distance
1 Moldavian 3.79
2 Croatian 6.8
3 Serbian 7.66
4 Hungarian 9.11
5 Romanian 9.88
6 Bulgarian 11.62
7 Ukrainian_Lviv 11.63
8 South_Polish 12.81
9 Ukrainian 13.06
10 Austrian 13.33
11 East_German 14.01
12 Ukrainian_Belgorod 15.63
13 Southwest_Russian 15.64
14 Polish 16.23
15 Tatar 17.62
16 Russian_Smolensk 17.77
17 Estonian_Polish 18.52
18 Kargopol_Russian 19.13
19 Belorussian 19.16
20 West_German 20.03


Mixed Mode Population Sharing:


# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 93.3% Moldavian + 6.7% North_Ossetian @ 2.5
2 92.8% Moldavian + 7.2% Kabardin @ 2.54
3 92.9% Moldavian + 7.1% Lezgin @ 2.56
4 93.1% Moldavian + 6.9% Balkar @ 2.56
5 93.3% Moldavian + 6.7% Adygei @ 2.57
6 93.8% Moldavian + 6.2% Ossetian @ 2.61
7 92.8% Moldavian + 7.2% Kumyk @ 2.63
8 93% Moldavian + 7% Chechen @ 2.63
9 94.7% Moldavian + 5.3% Abhkasian @ 2.65
10 94.5% Moldavian + 5.5% Georgian @ 2.66
11 93% Moldavian + 7% Tabassaran @ 2.67
12 92.2% Moldavian + 7.8% Nogay @ 2.7
13 85.9% Croatian + 14.1% Balkar @ 2.73
14 85.4% Croatian + 14.6% Kabardin @ 2.83
15 86.6% Croatian + 13.4% North_Ossetian @ 2.86
16 94.6% Moldavian + 5.4% Kurdish @ 2.88
17 85.1% Croatian + 14.9% Kumyk @ 2.89
18 94.1% Moldavian + 5.9% Azeri @ 2.91
19 93.9% Moldavian + 6.1% Turkmen @ 2.92
20 67.9% Romanian + 32.1% Erzya @ 2.92



<tbody>
Distance to:
Moldova_Telenesti_2


4.75013684
Moldova_North


5.96199631
Moldova_Centre


9.73719672
Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk


11.46577516
Moldova_South


13.16738395
Moldova_Ukrainian


13.25086412
Ukrainian_Lviv


14.87951276
Ukrainian


15.25623807
Moldova_South_Gagauz


15.76581428
Moldova_Bulgarian


20.19238966
Russian_Smolensk


25.16624525
Crimean_Tatar


26.04159557
Romania_Dobruja-Tatar


27.05657464
Russian_Pinega


35.53284396
Moldova_Jewish


36.27924062
Moldova_Roma

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Target: Moldova_Telenesti_2
Distance: 3.3945% / 3.39449557 | ADC: 0.25x
55.2 Moldova_North
31.0 Moldova_Centre
7.4 Crimean_Tatar
3.6 Ukrainian_Lviv
2.8 Russian_Smolensk


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Distance to:
Moldova_Telenesti_2


3.49911417
Moldova_Orhei


3.57187626
Moldova_Edinet


3.70645383
Moldova_Briceni


4.14342853
Moldova_Glodeni


4.76959118
Moldova_Straseni


5.18644387
Moldova_Balti


5.45477772
Moldova_Ialoveni


5.70429663
Moldova_Eurogenes


5.79113115
Moldova_Calarasi


6.29007154
Moldova_1/2Moldovan_1/2EastSlavic


6.39179943
Moldova_Chisinau


6.55312139
Moldova_Ocnita


6.61752975
Moldova_Cimislia


6.76582589
Moldova_Soldanesti


6.79693313
Moldova_Transnistria


7.85607408
Moldova_Rezina


7.94930815
Moldova_Ungheni


7.96523697
Moldova_Nisporeni


8.19826811
Moldova_Falesti


8.78633029
Moldova_Floresti


9.71236840
Moldova_Hincesti


10.20917235
Moldova_Causeni


11.85353956
Moldova_Cahul


12.68830564
Moldova_StefanVoda


13.16738395
Moldova_Ukrainian

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Aspirin
08-29-2020, 11:30 PM
# Population Percent
1 Baltic 32.71
2 North_Atlantic 23.95
3 West_Med 13.95
4 West_Asian 12.72
5 East_Med 11.65
6 Siberian 2.85
7 Red_Sea 1.6
8 East_Asian 0.25
9 South_Asian 0.21
10 Sub-Saharan 0.1


Single Population Sharing:


# Population (source) Distance
1 Moldavian 3.79
2 Croatian 6.8
3 Serbian 7.66
4 Hungarian 9.11
5 Romanian 9.88
6 Bulgarian 11.62
7 Ukrainian_Lviv 11.63
8 South_Polish 12.81
9 Ukrainian 13.06
10 Austrian 13.33
11 East_German 14.01
12 Ukrainian_Belgorod 15.63
13 Southwest_Russian 15.64
14 Polish 16.23
15 Tatar 17.62
16 Russian_Smolensk 17.77
17 Estonian_Polish 18.52
18 Kargopol_Russian 19.13
19 Belorussian 19.16
20 West_German 20.03


Mixed Mode Population Sharing:


# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 93.3% Moldavian + 6.7% North_Ossetian @ 2.5
2 92.8% Moldavian + 7.2% Kabardin @ 2.54
3 92.9% Moldavian + 7.1% Lezgin @ 2.56
4 93.1% Moldavian + 6.9% Balkar @ 2.56
5 93.3% Moldavian + 6.7% Adygei @ 2.57
6 93.8% Moldavian + 6.2% Ossetian @ 2.61
7 92.8% Moldavian + 7.2% Kumyk @ 2.63
8 93% Moldavian + 7% Chechen @ 2.63
9 94.7% Moldavian + 5.3% Abhkasian @ 2.65
10 94.5% Moldavian + 5.5% Georgian @ 2.66
11 93% Moldavian + 7% Tabassaran @ 2.67
12 92.2% Moldavian + 7.8% Nogay @ 2.7
13 85.9% Croatian + 14.1% Balkar @ 2.73
14 85.4% Croatian + 14.6% Kabardin @ 2.83
15 86.6% Croatian + 13.4% North_Ossetian @ 2.86
16 94.6% Moldavian + 5.4% Kurdish @ 2.88
17 85.1% Croatian + 14.9% Kumyk @ 2.89
18 94.1% Moldavian + 5.9% Azeri @ 2.91
19 93.9% Moldavian + 6.1% Turkmen @ 2.92
20 67.9% Romanian + 32.1% Erzya @ 2.92



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Distance to:
Moldova_Telenesti_2


4.75013684
Moldova_North


5.96199631
Moldova_Centre


9.73719672
Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk


11.46577516
Moldova_South


13.16738395
Moldova_Ukrainian


13.25086412
Ukrainian_Lviv


14.87951276
Ukrainian


15.25623807
Moldova_South_Gagauz


15.76581428
Moldova_Bulgarian


20.19238966
Russian_Smolensk


25.16624525
Crimean_Tatar


26.04159557
Romania_Dobruja-Tatar


27.05657464
Russian_Pinega


35.53284396
Moldova_Jewish


36.27924062
Moldova_Roma

</tbody>


Target: Moldova_Telenesti_2
Distance: 3.3945% / 3.39449557 | ADC: 0.25x
55.2 Moldova_North
31.0 Moldova_Centre
7.4 Crimean_Tatar
3.6 Ukrainian_Lviv
2.8 Russian_Smolensk


<tbody>
Distance to:
Moldova_Telenesti_2


3.49911417
Moldova_Orhei


3.57187626
Moldova_Edinet


3.70645383
Moldova_Briceni


4.14342853
Moldova_Glodeni


4.76959118
Moldova_Straseni


5.18644387
Moldova_Balti


5.45477772
Moldova_Ialoveni


5.70429663
Moldova_Eurogenes


5.79113115
Moldova_Calarasi


6.29007154
Moldova_1/2Moldovan_1/2EastSlavic


6.39179943
Moldova_Chisinau


6.55312139
Moldova_Ocnita


6.61752975
Moldova_Cimislia


6.76582589
Moldova_Soldanesti


6.79693313
Moldova_Transnistria


7.85607408
Moldova_Rezina


7.94930815
Moldova_Ungheni


7.96523697
Moldova_Nisporeni


8.19826811
Moldova_Falesti


8.78633029
Moldova_Floresti


9.71236840
Moldova_Hincesti


10.20917235
Moldova_Causeni


11.85353956
Moldova_Cahul


12.68830564
Moldova_StefanVoda


13.16738395
Moldova_Ukrainian

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This one is very northern, I don't see Greek Thessaly in his Oracle. Zmey, half of his ancestry is from Teleneşti too, and he is northern too for Central region.

Ion Basescul
08-30-2020, 12:07 AM
Zmey, half of his ancestry is from Teleneşti too, and he is northern too for Central region.

Kind of, but if I am used as a baseline for the Central region then Zmey pulls more towards the Centre, probably because he is only half from Telenesti. Zmey's Southern ancestry is higher than mine for example and so is his Northern, whereas I pull East towards the horses and archers.
Compared to the samples from Telenesti, he is a bit more Med-ish than them, finds himself between them for Northern ancestry and scores less East Asian/Siberian.

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F. Name
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
Total Med + W.Asian


Zmey
14.38
9.99
13.86
3.05
41.28

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Ion
15.04
9.99
12.91
1.53
39.47

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Telenesti_1
14.85
10.34
12.30
2.85
40.34


Telenesti_2
13.95
12.72
11.65
1.60
39.92

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F. Name
N_Atlantic
Baltic
Total N_Atlantic+Baltic


Zmey
22.18
33.94
56.12

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Ion
25.42
29.37
54.79

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Telenesti_1
25.38
29.74
55.12


Telenesti_2
23.95
32.71
56.66

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F. Name
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Total E_Asian+Siberian


Zmey
1.21
0
0.91
2.12

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Ion
1.84
2.84
0
4.68

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Telenesti_1
0.60
1.35
0.91
2.86


Telenesti_2
0.25
2.85
0
3.10

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The most Northern sample that we have is from the Central region btw. This person was born in Rezina, but with parents originally from the neighbouring Ribnita region in Transnistria (Plopi (https://ro.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plopi,_St%C3%AEnga_Nistrului) and Vasilievca (https://ro.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comuna_Sovietscoe,_St%C3%AEnga_Nistrului)).

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 34.84
2 North_Atlantic 28.97
3 West_Med 12.39
4 East_Med 12.05
5 West_Asian 7.67
6 Siberian 1.37
7 Red_Sea 0.73
8 Northeast_African 0.71
9 Oceanian 0.51
10 South_Asian 0.44
11 Sub-Saharan 0.34


Single Population Sharing:


# Population (source) Distance
1 Croatian 3.92
2 Hungarian 4.59
3 Moldavian 5.48
4 South_Polish 8.43
5 Serbian 8.49
6 Ukrainian_Lviv 8.8
7 Austrian 9.4
8 East_German 9.5
9 Ukrainian 9.75
10 Polish 12.27
11 Romanian 12.53
12 Southwest_Russian 12.96
13 Ukrainian_Belgorod 13.41
14 Russian_Smolensk 14.55
15 Bulgarian 14.81
16 Estonian_Polish 15.01
17 Belorussian 15.28
18 Southwest_Finnish 16.56
19 West_German 16.96
20 Kargopol_Russian 17.23


Mixed Mode Population Sharing:


# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 82.6% South_Polish + 17.4% Italian_Jewish @ 1.57
2 82.7% South_Polish + 17.3% Sephardic_Jewish @ 1.69
3 69.4% Serbian + 30.6% Estonian @ 1.83
4 78% South_Polish + 22% Italian_Abruzzo @ 1.83
5 78.8% South_Polish + 21.2% West_Sicilian @ 1.84
6 50.2% South_Polish + 49.8% Serbian @ 1.86
7 79.7% South_Polish + 20.3% Ashkenazi @ 1.89
8 80.8% South_Polish + 19.2% South_Italian @ 1.92
9 83.9% South_Polish + 16.1% Tunisian_Jewish @ 1.93
10 64.7% Serbian + 35.3% Belorussian @ 1.95
11 79.4% South_Polish + 20.6% East_Sicilian @ 2.02
12 82.9% South_Polish + 17.1% Algerian_Jewish @ 2.03
13 60.2% South_Polish + 39.8% Romanian @ 2.03
14 60.3% Romanian + 39.7% Estonian @ 2.09
15 84% South_Polish + 16% Libyan_Jewish @ 2.09
16 78.8% South_Polish + 21.2% Central_Greek @ 2.14
17 70.8% Serbian + 29.2% Lithuanian @ 2.2
18 74.2% South_Polish + 25.8% Greek_Thessaly @ 2.21
19 60.9% Estonian + 39.1% Italian_Abruzzo @ 2.23
20 64.5% Serbian + 35.5% Estonian_Polish @ 2.31

Aspirin
08-30-2020, 12:47 PM
Kind of, but if I am used as a baseline for the Central region then Zmey pulls more towards the Centre, probably because he is only half from Telenesti. Zmey's Southern ancestry is higher than mine for example and so is his Northern, whereas I pull East towards the horses and archers.
Compared to the samples from Telenesti, he is a bit more Med-ish than them, finds himself between them for Northern ancestry and scores less East Asian/Siberian.

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F. Name
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
Total Med + W.Asian


Zmey
14.38
9.99
13.86
3.05
41.28

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Ion
15.04
9.99
12.91
1.53
39.47

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Telenesti_1
14.85
10.34
12.30
2.85
40.34


Telenesti_2
13.95
12.72
11.65
1.60
39.92

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F. Name
N_Atlantic
Baltic
Total N_Atlantic+Baltic


Zmey
22.18
33.94
56.12

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Ion
25.42
29.37
54.79

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Telenesti_1
25.38
29.74
55.12


Telenesti_2
23.95
32.71
56.66

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F. Name
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Total E_Asian+Siberian


Zmey
1.21
0
0.91
2.12

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Ion
1.84
2.84
0
4.68

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Telenesti_1
0.60
1.35
0.91
2.86


Telenesti_2
0.25
2.85
0
3.10

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The most Northern sample that we have is from the Central region btw. This person was born in Rezina, but with parents originally from the neighbouring Ribnita region in Transnistria (Plopi (https://ro.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plopi,_St%C3%AEnga_Nistrului) and Vasilievca (https://ro.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comuna_Sovietscoe,_St%C3%AEnga_Nistrului)).


Well, you are 1/4 Ukrainian, this is the reason why your Southern ancestry is lower than him, he is not. Plus you have very unique background.

The person from Rezina clearly have recent Slavic admixture, with such high North Atlantic, his origins confirm that.

Ion Basescul
08-30-2020, 12:57 PM
The person from Rezina clearly have recent Slavic admixture, with such high North Atlantic, his origins confirm that.

I suspect that too, but I will leave the sample for now, until I get something better from there.
Actually, I've also found yesterday that her 1/2 Vasilievca side is not even from there. Her mom (I don't have her maiden surname) lived there, but she was born in Шершенці. And according to Wikipedia, it is 96% Ukrainian.

Aspirin
08-30-2020, 01:37 PM
I suspect that too, but I will leave the sample for now, until I get something better from there.
Actually, I've also found yesterday that her 1/2 Vasilievca side is not even from there. Her mom (I don't have her maiden surname) lived there, but she was born in Шершенці. And according to Wikipedia, it is 96% Ukrainian.

How about these two from Telenești, do you know something about their background?

Ion Basescul
08-30-2020, 03:25 PM
I suspect that too, but I will leave the sample for now, until I get something better from there.
Actually, I've also found yesterday that her 1/2 Vasilievca side is not even from there. Her mom (I don't have her maiden surname) lived there, but she was born in Шершенці. And according to Wikipedia, it is 96% Ukrainian.

If we assume that she's mixed then these are the next top 5 Northern-most samples. I am also including those who are half unmixed from the North and half Slavic, because this way it's easier to see where the upper and lower admixture boundaries could be in unmixed people from there.
It seems like lower 60s% for the sum of N_Atlantic+Baltic is the most that someone of unmixed heritage should expect to score. The sum of Med and West Asian components starts at about 33%.

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F. Name
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
Total Med+W.Asian


Ocnita
14.65
5.86
12.83
0
33.34

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Tiraspol
13.51
8.62
9.41
1.69
33.23

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Balti_1
14.36
5.12
13.53
2.10
35.85

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Floresti
9.74
8.78
16.00
1.82
34.52

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Balti_2
15.49
6.59
13.52
1.22
36.82

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1/2Drochia_1/2Polish
12.60
7.73
8.94
2.67
31.94

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Balti_10/16Ukrainian
11.95
9.09
9.72
2.43
33.19

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2/4Riscani_Ukr._1/4Poltava_Ukr.
13.68
10.09
7.49
0.57
31.83

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1/2Ribnita_1/2Ukrainian
14.39
5.74
9.35
2.31
31.79

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1_2Balti_1/2Russian
11.97
10.18
6.87
1.90
30.92

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F. Name
N_Atlantic
Baltic
Total N_Atlantic+Baltic


Ocnita
27.82
33.86
61.68

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Tiraspol
28.21
33.01
61.22

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Balti_1
28.97
31.72
60.69

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Floresti
24.07
36.26
60.33

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Balti_2
28.04
32.24
60.28

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1/2Drochia_1/2Polish
22.11
39.39
61.50


Balti_10/16Ukrainian
27.18
36.15
63.33

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2/4Riscani_Ukr._1/4Poltava_Ukr.
25.50
39.14
64.64


1/2Ribnita_1/2Ukrainian
26.60
36.87
63.47


1_2Balti_1/2Russian
24.71
38.41
63.12

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F. Name
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Total E_Asian+Siberian


Ocnita
1.14
0.51
1.49
3.14

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Tiraspol
0
2.33
0
2.33

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Balti_1
1.39
1.35
0
2.74

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Floresti
2.47
0.19
0.54
3.20

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Balti_2
0
2.23
0.42
2.65

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1/2Drochia_1/2Polish
0.58
0.76
1.18
2.52

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Balti_10/16Ukrainian
0
2.06
0
2.06

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2/4Riscani_Ukr._1/4Poltava_Ukr.
0.75
1.75
0
2.50


1/2Ribnita_1/2Ukrainian
0.60
1.58
0
2.18


1_2Balti_1/2Russian
0.25
4.56
0.14
4.95



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How about these two from Telenești, do you know something about their background?

Not much else apart from them having parents from there. Telenesti_2 is my DNA relative and Telenesti_1 is their relative.

Leto
08-30-2020, 03:33 PM
1_2Balti_1/2Russian
Can you share the full results? Both K13 and Dodecad (do me a fucking favor;))

Ion Basescul
08-30-2020, 03:38 PM
Can you share the full results? Both K13 and Dodecad (do me a fucking favor;))

Here you go:



# Population Percent
1 Baltic 38.41
2 North_Atlantic 24.71
3 West_Med 11.97
4 West_Asian 10.18
5 East_Med 6.87
6 Siberian 4.56
7 Red_Sea 1.9
8 Oceanian 0.49
9 Sub-Saharan 0.31
10 East_Asian 0.25
11 Amerindian 0.14
12 South_Asian 0.11
13 Northeast_African 0.11


Single Population Sharing:


# Population (source) Distance
1 Ukrainian_Lviv 6
2 Croatian 6.57
3 Moldavian 6.95
4 Ukrainian 7.5
5 South_Polish 8.01
6 Southwest_Russian 9.54
7 Ukrainian_Belgorod 9.77
8 Hungarian 10.47
9 Polish 10.53
10 Russian_Smolensk 11.57
11 Kargopol_Russian 12.11
12 Estonian_Polish 12.27
13 Belorussian 13.07
14 Erzya 13.51
15 Serbian 13.61
16 East_German 13.82
17 Austrian 14.47
18 Tatar 14.91
19 Southwest_Finnish 16.12
20 Finnish 16.26


Mixed Mode Population Sharing:


# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 86.8% Ukrainian_Lviv + 13.2% Nogay @ 2.7
2 78.2% Croatian + 21.8% Chuvash @ 2.74
3 67.6% Moldavian + 32.4% Erzya @ 2.91
4 50.2% Erzya + 49.8% Serbian @ 3
5 65.2% Moldavian + 34.8% Kargopol_Russian @ 3
6 88.3% Ukrainian_Lviv + 11.7% Afghan_Turkmen @ 3.05
7 69.3% Erzya + 30.7% North_Italian @ 3.21
8 58.5% Kargopol_Russian + 41.5% Romanian @ 3.22
9 83.8% Ukrainian + 16.2% Nogay @ 3.23
10 82.9% Croatian + 17.1% Mari @ 3.24
11 74% Kargopol_Russian + 26% Italian_Abruzzo @ 3.35
12 72.8% Moldavian + 27.2% East_Finnish @ 3.35
13 89.5% Ukrainian_Lviv + 10.5% Balkar @ 3.36
14 72.1% Croatian + 27.9% Tatar @ 3.39
15 89.2% Ukrainian_Lviv + 10.8% Kabardin @ 3.43
16 61.1% Kargopol_Russian + 38.9% Bulgarian @ 3.44
17 53.1% Kargopol_Russian + 46.9% Serbian @ 3.45
18 89.6% Ukrainian_Lviv + 10.4% Turkmen @ 3.47
19 90.1% Ukrainian_Lviv + 9.9% North_Ossetian @ 3.52
20 90.5% Ukrainian_Lviv + 9.5% Ossetian @ 3.56



# Population Percent
1 North_European 48.17
2 Atlantic_Med 23.07
3 Caucasus 14.84
4 Gedrosia 6.14
5 Siberian 3.44
6 Southwest_Asian 3.41
7 East_Asian 0.93


Single Population Sharing:


# Population (source) Distance
1 Hungarians (Behar) 5.26
2 German (Dodecad) 11.13
3 Ukranians (Yunusbayev) 15.59
4 Polish (Dodecad) 15.6
5 Mixed_Slav (Dodecad) 16.96
6 Romanians (Behar) 17.27
7 Swedish (Dodecad) 17.63
8 Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) 17.75
9 Dutch (Dodecad) 18.48
10 Mordovians (Yunusbayev) 18.94
11 Bulgarian (Dodecad) 18.98
12 Norwegian (Dodecad) 19.32
13 Russian (Dodecad) 19.46
14 Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) 19.47
15 Russian_B (Behar) 20.23
16 Russian (HGDP) 20.34
17 Belorussian (Behar) 20.4
18 CEU30 (1000Genomes) 21.18
19 English (Dodecad) 21.4
20 Kent (1000Genomes) 21.48


Mixed Mode Population Sharing:


# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 60.8% Mordovians (Yunusbayev) + 39.2% N_Italian (Dodecad) @ 2.31
2 83.8% Hungarians (Behar) + 16.2% Chuvashs (Behar) @ 2.31
3 63% Mordovians (Yunusbayev) + 37% North_Italian (HGDP) @ 2.5
4 59.1% Russian (HGDP) + 40.9% N_Italian (Dodecad) @ 2.87
5 51% FIN30 (1000Genomes) + 49% O_Italian (Dodecad) @ 3.14
6 94.5% Hungarians (Behar) + 5.5% Selkup (Rasmussen) @ 3.2
7 94.9% Hungarians (Behar) + 5.1% Ket (Rasmussen) @ 3.32
8 50.5% O_Italian (Dodecad) + 49.5% Finnish (Dodecad) @ 3.4
9 64.8% Mordovians (Yunusbayev) + 35.2% Baleares (1000Genomes) @ 3.45
10 61.4% Russian (HGDP) + 38.6% North_Italian (HGDP) @ 3.5
11 62.1% Russian (HGDP) + 37.9% TSI30 (Metspalu) @ 3.61
12 94.6% Hungarians (Behar) + 5.4% Altai (Rasmussen) @ 3.67
13 95.4% Hungarians (Behar) + 4.6% Tuva (Rasmussen) @ 3.75
14 96% Hungarians (Behar) + 4% Dolgan (Rasmussen) @ 3.77
15 67.9% Mordovians (Yunusbayev) + 32.1% Andalucia (1000Genomes) @ 3.78
16 96.5% Hungarians (Behar) + 3.5% Evenk (Rasmussen) @ 3.79
17 96.3% Hungarians (Behar) + 3.7% Yakut (HGDP) @ 3.79
18 96.4% Hungarians (Behar) + 3.6% Yukagir (Rasmussen) @ 3.83
19 92.7% Hungarians (Behar) + 7.3% Uzbeks (Behar) @ 3.85
20 97% Hungarians (Behar) + 3% Nganassan (Rasmussen) @ 3.88

Leto
08-30-2020, 03:51 PM
Here you go:

Thanks. That's quite a bit of Mongoloid - over 4%. Anything is know about his Russian ancestry? It must have come over there from afar.

Dodecad:
MoldoRus,6.14,3.44,0,0,23.07,48.17,0,0,3.41,0.93,1 4.84,0

Distance to: MoldoRus
5.40399852 Slovak
5.44716440 Hungarians
7.22284570 Slovenian
7.93039091 PL_GreaterPoland
8.08119422 Ukrainian
8.33279665 Croat
8.72328493 Bosnian
8.74047482 Sorb_Lusatia
9.20004348 R.Moldova_Centre+North
9.77199059 Rus_Smolensk

Target: MoldoRus
Distance: 2.2792% / 2.27917142 | ADC: 0.5x
49.8 Hungarians
30.6 Slovak
17.4 Tatar_Kazan
2.2 Ukrainian

Target: MoldoRus
Distance: 1.1048% / 1.10478350 | ADC: 0.25x
41.0 Hungarians
40.2 Slovak
8.4 Chuvash
6.8 Tatar_Kazan
3.2 Tabasaran
0.4 Saudis

Eurogenes:
MoldoRus,24.71,38.41,11.97,10.18,6.87,1.9,0.11,0.2 5,4.56,0.14,0.49,0.11,0.31

Distance to: MoldoRus
6.54372982 Ukrainian_Lviv
7.67348031 Bosniak_Bosnia_NE&Central
7.70332396 Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk
8.27863515 Moldova_North
8.29172479 Ukrainian
8.61499700 Slovak
8.64037615 Croat_Slavonia
8.89130474 South_Polish
9.48371235 Hungarian_Northern
9.62331977 Croat

Target: MoldoRus
Distance: 2.6451% / 2.64513217 | ADC: 0.5x
54.4 Ukrainian_Lviv
28.6 Moldova_North
16.6 Tatar
0.4 Bulgarian_Ruse

Target: MoldoRus
Distance: 2.0073% / 2.00729304 | ADC: 0.25x
59.4 Ukrainian_Lviv
18.0 Tatar
9.6 Bulgarian_Ruse
8.0 Moldova_North
4.2 Croat_Slavonia
0.8 North_Ossetian

Ion Basescul
08-30-2020, 03:54 PM
Thanks. That's quite a bit of Mongoloid - over 4%. Anything is know about his Russian ancestry? It must have come over there from afar.


Nope, I suppose it's just Northern Russian. The neighbourhood that I grew up in received mostly migrants from Saint Petersburg in Soviet times and there quite a couple of Siberian/East Asian hints in faces. His admixture could be related or from somewhere else in the country.

Leto
08-30-2020, 03:59 PM
Nope, I suppose it's just Northern Russian. The neighbourhood that I grew up in received mostly migrants from Saint Petersburg in Soviet times and there quite a couple of Siberian/East Asian hints in faces. His admixture could be related or from somewhere else in the country.
Um, if you mean Leningrad oblast, they are Northwest Russians (long-time residents). That type of Russians actually look whiter than average, blonder and more Finnish-like. Don't know why they would migrate to Moldova from the second-largest city of Russia. Sure neighboring Ukrainians would look more similar to Moldovans than them.

Ion Basescul
08-30-2020, 04:00 PM
From Vrancea (Romania's Moldavia)

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 27.43
2 North_Atlantic 24.37
3 West_Med 14.81
4 East_Med 14.49
5 West_Asian 10.05
6 Red_Sea 3.2
7 South_Asian 2.96
8 Siberian 0.96
9 Amerindian 0.79
10 Oceanian 0.51
11 East_Asian 0.37
12 Sub-Saharan 0.06


Single Population Sharing:


# Population (source) Distance
1 Serbian 3.82
2 Romanian 5.21
3 Moldavian 6.82
4 Bulgarian 7.47
5 Hungarian 9.64
6 Croatian 9.66
7 Austrian 13.07
8 East_German 14.51
9 Greek_Thessaly 15.41
10 Ukrainian_Lviv 15.77
11 South_Polish 16.67
12 Ukrainian 17.28
13 West_German 18.07
14 North_Italian 18.94
15 French 19.51
16 South_Dutch 19.61
17 Tuscan 19.84
18 Polish 20.16
19 Southwest_Russian 20.29
20 Ukrainian_Belgorod 20.47


Mixed Mode Population Sharing:


# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 92.8% Serbian + 7.2% MA-1 @ 1.76
2 95% Serbian + 5% Kshatriya @ 2.12
3 93.9% Serbian + 6.1% Pathan @ 2.13
4 95% Serbian + 5% Gujarati @ 2.15
5 94.7% Serbian + 5.3% Brahmin_UP @ 2.16
6 94% Serbian + 6% Burusho @ 2.17
7 95.5% Serbian + 4.5% Kanjar @ 2.17
8 94.1% Serbian + 5.9% Punjabi_Jat @ 2.18
9 95.4% Serbian + 4.6% Dharkar @ 2.19
10 95.8% Serbian + 4.2% North_Kannadi @ 2.2
11 95.1% Serbian + 4.9% Bangladeshi @ 2.21
12 57.6% Ukrainian_Lviv + 42.4% Italian_Abruzzo @ 2.24
13 95.8% Serbian + 4.2% Dusadh @ 2.25
14 95.8% Serbian + 4.2% Velamas @ 2.25
15 95.8% Serbian + 4.2% Kurumba @ 2.25
16 95.6% Serbian + 4.4% Uttar_Pradesh @ 2.26
17 95.8% Serbian + 4.2% Kol @ 2.26
18 96% Serbian + 4% Piramalai @ 2.26
19 96.1% Serbian + 3.9% Chamar @ 2.28
20 94.8% Serbian + 5.2% Sindhi @ 2.3


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Distance to:
Vrancea_ind


3.72687537
Romania_Moldova_Nord


4.23566996
Romania_Moldova_Csango


4.26357831
Romania_Moldova_Sud


4.77035638
Romania_Maramures


5.06848103
Romania_Crisana


5.20433473
Romania_Transilvania


5.78822154
Romania_Transilvania_Szekely


5.81740203
Romania_Transilvania_Hungarian


5.85281983
Romania_Oltenia


6.54508976
Romania_Banat


6.89567981
Romania_Muntenia


7.19720779
Romania_Dobrogea


8.54732122
Bulgarian


11.56619644
Aromanian_North-Macedonia-Highlander


11.63663182
Aromanian_North-Macedonia


12.86839928
Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk


16.90102955
Aromanian_Central-Macedonia


17.98864364
Ukrainian_Lviv


25.34448263
Crimean_Tatar


27.50770801
Romania_Dobruja_Tatar


30.37712462
Romania_Jewish


31.46442753
Romania_Roma

</tbody>


Target: Vrancea_ind
Distance: 2.0924% / 2.09235315 | ADC: 0.25x
86.8 Romania_Moldova_Nord
7.4 Romania_Roma
4.4 Aromanian_North-Macedonia
1.4 Ukrainian_Lviv

-Aromanians
Target: Vrancea_ind
Distance: 2.1783% / 2.17834066 | ADC: 0.25x
86.0 Romania_Moldova_Nord
7.8 Romania_Roma
3.2 Romania_Crisana
3.0 Romania_Moldova_Sud

The Vrancea reference has only 1 individual, so it's far from being representative.

<tbody>
Distance to:
Vrancea_ind


3.11139840
Romania_Moldavia_Iasi


3.41087965
Romania_Moldavia_Neamt


4.15202360
Romania_Moldavia_Vaslui


4.31478852
Romania_Moldavia_Botosani


4.44364715
Romania_Moldavia_Bacau


5.24716114
Romania_Moldavia_Suceava


5.57403803
Romania_Moldavia_Vrancea


6.12188696
Romania_Moldavia_Galati


</tbody>

Ion Basescul
08-30-2020, 04:02 PM
Um, if you mean Leningrad oblast, they are Northwest Russians (long-time residents). That type of Russians actually look whiter than average, blonder and more Finnish-like. Don't know why they would migrate to Moldova from the second-largest city of Russia. Sure neighboring Ukrainians would look more similar to Moldovans than them.

Yep, blonder, whiter than average, but with Mong features. Obviously only a fraction of them were like that, but it was obvious compared to the general population.

Leto
08-30-2020, 04:05 PM
Yep, blonder, whiter than average, but with Mong features. Obviously only a fraction of them were like that, but it was obvious compared to the general population.
You think 5-10% East Eurasia can be phenotypically noticeable?

Aspirin
08-30-2020, 04:08 PM
You think 5-10% East Eurasia can be phenotypically noticeable?

If is Turkic, most likely, if is Finno-Ugric, not very much.

Leto
08-30-2020, 04:10 PM
If is Turkic, most likely, if is Finno-Ugric, not very much.
Strange logic. Those are linguistic terms. In us it (East Eurasian) is not "Turkic" most of the time (unless recent ancestry from the last 100 years or so) but it's noticeable sometimes, though without both photos and DNA results it's a rather pointless discussion. Chris also thought he should be Asian.

WeirdLookingFellow
08-30-2020, 04:14 PM
From Vrancea (Romania's Moldavia)

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 27.43
2 North_Atlantic 24.37
3 West_Med 14.81
4 East_Med 14.49
5 West_Asian 10.05
6 Red_Sea 3.2
7 South_Asian 2.96
8 Siberian 0.96
9 Amerindian 0.79
10 Oceanian 0.51
11 East_Asian 0.37
12 Sub-Saharan 0.06


Single Population Sharing:


# Population (source) Distance
1 Serbian 3.82
2 Romanian 5.21
3 Moldavian 6.82
4 Bulgarian 7.47
5 Hungarian 9.64
6 Croatian 9.66
7 Austrian 13.07
8 East_German 14.51
9 Greek_Thessaly 15.41
10 Ukrainian_Lviv 15.77
11 South_Polish 16.67
12 Ukrainian 17.28
13 West_German 18.07
14 North_Italian 18.94
15 French 19.51
16 South_Dutch 19.61
17 Tuscan 19.84
18 Polish 20.16
19 Southwest_Russian 20.29
20 Ukrainian_Belgorod 20.47


Mixed Mode Population Sharing:


# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 92.8% Serbian + 7.2% MA-1 @ 1.76
2 95% Serbian + 5% Kshatriya @ 2.12
3 93.9% Serbian + 6.1% Pathan @ 2.13
4 95% Serbian + 5% Gujarati @ 2.15
5 94.7% Serbian + 5.3% Brahmin_UP @ 2.16
6 94% Serbian + 6% Burusho @ 2.17
7 95.5% Serbian + 4.5% Kanjar @ 2.17
8 94.1% Serbian + 5.9% Punjabi_Jat @ 2.18
9 95.4% Serbian + 4.6% Dharkar @ 2.19
10 95.8% Serbian + 4.2% North_Kannadi @ 2.2
11 95.1% Serbian + 4.9% Bangladeshi @ 2.21
12 57.6% Ukrainian_Lviv + 42.4% Italian_Abruzzo @ 2.24
13 95.8% Serbian + 4.2% Dusadh @ 2.25
14 95.8% Serbian + 4.2% Velamas @ 2.25
15 95.8% Serbian + 4.2% Kurumba @ 2.25
16 95.6% Serbian + 4.4% Uttar_Pradesh @ 2.26
17 95.8% Serbian + 4.2% Kol @ 2.26
18 96% Serbian + 4% Piramalai @ 2.26
19 96.1% Serbian + 3.9% Chamar @ 2.28
20 94.8% Serbian + 5.2% Sindhi @ 2.3


<tbody>
Distance to:
Vrancea_ind


3.72687537
Romania_Moldova_Nord


4.23566996
Romania_Moldova_Csango


4.26357831
Romania_Moldova_Sud


4.77035638
Romania_Maramures


5.06848103
Romania_Crisana


5.20433473
Romania_Transilvania


5.78822154
Romania_Transilvania_Szekely


5.81740203
Romania_Transilvania_Hungarian


5.85281983
Romania_Oltenia


6.54508976
Romania_Banat


6.89567981
Romania_Muntenia


7.19720779
Romania_Dobrogea


8.54732122
Bulgarian


11.56619644
Aromanian_North-Macedonia-Highlander


11.63663182
Aromanian_North-Macedonia


12.86839928
Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk


16.90102955
Aromanian_Central-Macedonia


17.98864364
Ukrainian_Lviv


25.34448263
Crimean_Tatar


27.50770801
Romania_Dobruja_Tatar


30.37712462
Romania_Jewish


31.46442753
Romania_Roma

</tbody>


Target: Vrancea_ind
Distance: 2.0924% / 2.09235315 | ADC: 0.25x
86.8 Romania_Moldova_Nord
7.4 Romania_Roma
4.4 Aromanian_North-Macedonia
1.4 Ukrainian_Lviv


At almost 3% South Asian would you categorize him/her as part Roma and put him/her in a "just a bit of diversity" bin ?

Leto
08-30-2020, 04:16 PM
At almost 3% South Asian would you categorize him/her as part Roma and put him/her in a "just a bit of diversity" bin ?
You'd need HarappaWorld or Dodecad for that. K13's SA is a more mixed component.

Ion Basescul
08-30-2020, 04:19 PM
You think 5-10% East Eurasia can be phenotypically noticeable?

Can we not, I know you are insecure, but let's leave this discussion. It will manifest in some, but probably not in most.

Leto
08-30-2020, 04:21 PM
Can we not, I know you are insecure, but let's leave this discussion. It will manifest in some, but probably not in most.
Lol. Actually I agree with your last part. And I personally don't show it whatsoever, I can send you my photo. Just an interesting subject. Though we are indeed attacked sometimes as Mongols (therefore subhuman in some way), so it makes me a bit uncomfortable.

Ion Basescul
08-30-2020, 04:22 PM
At almost 3% South Asian would you categorize him/her as part Roma and put him/her in a "just a bit of diversity" bin ?

No, for Roma I put them in mixed after it surpasses 4%. This person is between 1/8 and more distant, so not that relevant.

Ion Basescul
08-30-2020, 04:23 PM
Lol. Actually I agree with your last part. And I personally don't show it whatsoever, I can send you my photo. Just an interesting subject. Though we are indeed attacked sometimes as Mongols (therefore subhuman in some way), so it makes me a bit uncomfortable.

There's nothing uncomfortable about being related to the most advanced people in the world.

Leto
08-30-2020, 04:28 PM
There's nothing uncomfortable about being related to the most advanced people in the world.
Ok. Sent you a rep comment (a bit too controversial) and also sending you my photo.

Aspirin
08-30-2020, 04:35 PM
Strange logic. Those are linguistic terms. In us it (East Eurasian) is not "Turkic" most of the time (unless recent ancestry from the last 100 years or so) but it's noticeable sometimes, though without both photos and DNA results it's a rather pointless discussion. Chris also thought he should be Asian.

Turkic admixture is recent in some Europeans, 600-1500 years, and can affect very much the look of some European populations. Finno-Ugric one is more balanced, because the Mongoloid component is old, from Paleolithic. Slavs who assimilated Finno-Ugric populations show such traits, but are not so screaming, plus they are not swarthy. Turkic admixture most of time produce swarthy wogish look.

WeirdLookingFellow
08-30-2020, 04:38 PM
Turkic admixture most of time produce very swarthy wogish look.

Can confirm, am example.

Ion Basescul
08-30-2020, 04:44 PM
From Vrancea (Romania's Moldavia)

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 27.43
2 North_Atlantic 24.37
3 West_Med 14.81
4 East_Med 14.49
5 West_Asian 10.05
6 Red_Sea 3.2
7 South_Asian 2.96
8 Siberian 0.96
9 Amerindian 0.79
10 Oceanian 0.51
11 East_Asian 0.37
12 Sub-Saharan 0.06



That one was from Bacau, my bad. The one below him was from Vrancea, whose results I am also going to post.

While I am still at Bacau samples, here's another one, but without GEDmatch, since it's a donated kit.

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N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan


24.24
27.89
14.20
9.72
16.82
3.08
0
1.03
1.49
0.28
0.76
0
0.48

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<tbody>
Distance to:
Bacau_ind


3.15428280
Romania_Moldova_Nord


3.76953578
Romania_Moldova_Sud


4.24709312
Romania_Crisana


4.45412169
Romania_Transilvania


4.81651326
Romania_Maramures


4.83485263
Romania_Moldova_Csango


5.20941455
Romania_Oltenia


5.58862237
Romania_Banat


5.97488912
Romania_Muntenia


6.18553959
Romania_Dobrogea


6.48234334
Romania_Transilvania_Szekely


6.99467516
Romania_Transilvania_Hungarian


7.30157517
Bulgarian


10.47111264
Aromanian_North-Macedonia-Highlander


11.13796660
Aromanian_North-Macedonia


13.09344111
Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk


16.10390325
Aromanian_Central-Macedonia


18.79684548
Ukrainian_Lviv


25.61376388
Crimean_Tatar


27.65652726
Romania_Dobruja_Tatar


29.13511284
Romania_Jewish


33.57124216
Romania_Roma


</tbody>


Target: Bacau_ind
Distance: 1.8033% / 1.80329849 | ADC: 0.25x
89.4 Romania_Moldova_Nord
5.6 Romania_Jewish
3.6 Aromanian_North-Macedonia-Highlander
1.4 Crimean_Tatar

-Aromanian, Jewish
Target: Bacau_ind
Distance: 2.2190% / 2.21899967 | ADC: 0.25x
68.8 Romania_Moldova_Nord
25.2 Romania_Muntenia
4.8 Romania_Crisana
1.2 Crimean_Tatar




<tbody>
Distance to:
Bacau_ind


1.75014285
Romania_Moldavia_Neamt


2.51362288
Romania_Moldavia_Iasi


3.36370332
Romania_Moldavia_Botosani


3.79357351
Romania_Moldavia_Vaslui


4.02471117
Romania_Moldavia_Bacau


5.35673408
Romania_Moldavia_Suceava


5.57847649
Romania_Moldavia_Galati


5.61996441
Romania_Moldavia_Vrancea


</tbody>

Ion Basescul
08-30-2020, 04:45 PM
Can confirm, am example.

Yours is below average though.

WeirdLookingFellow
08-30-2020, 04:47 PM
Yours is below average though.

Results may be but the tan isn't.

Aspirin
08-30-2020, 04:47 PM
Yours is below average though.

He mean his look.

Ion Basescul
08-30-2020, 04:50 PM
The one below him was from Vrancea, whose results I am also going to post.


Vrancea (Romania's Moldavia)

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N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan


23.92
23.07
20.63
9.31
15.68
1.32
2.74
1.52
0.53
1.01
0
0.15
0.13

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<tbody>
Distance to:
Vrancea_ind


4.76904603
Romania_Oltenia


5.10830696
Romania_Transilvania


5.73163153
Romania_Moldova_Sud


6.28672411
Romania_Dobrogea


6.37169522
Romania_Banat


6.62083832
Romania_Muntenia


6.94615001
Bulgarian


7.13450769
Romania_Crisana


7.57097748
Aromanian_North-Macedonia


8.45184004
Romania_Maramures


8.96977146
Aromanian_North-Macedonia-Highlander


9.17158111
Romania_Moldova_Nord


9.35592860
Romania_Moldova_Csango


9.66438753
Romania_Transilvania_Szekely


10.04522747
Romania_Transilvania_Hungarian


12.05801393
Aromanian_Central-Macedonia


18.09006357
Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk


23.61435580
Ukrainian_Lviv


26.84505355
Crimean_Tatar


27.01988897
Romania_Jewish


29.72197335
Romania_Dobruja_Tatar


30.36788929
Romania_Roma

</tbody>



Target: Vrancea_ind
Distance: 4.0314% / 4.03143361 | ADC: 0.25x
30.6 Aromanian_North-Macedonia
29.0 Romania_Transilvania
20.4 Romania_Transilvania_Hungarian
15.4 Romania_Oltenia
4.4 Romania_Roma
0.2 Aromanian_Central-Macedonia

-Aromanian, Hungarian
Target: Vrancea_ind
Distance: 4.4326% / 4.43256924 | ADC: 0.25x
87.2 Romania_Oltenia
7.8 Romania_Crisana
5.0 Romania_Roma

-Oltenia, Crisana, Transilvania
Target: Vrancea_ind
Distance: 5.0167% / 5.01665884 | ADC: 0.25x
90.2 Romania_Moldova_Sud
7.2 Romania_Roma
2.6 Romania_Dobrogea






<tbody>
Distance to:
Vrancea_ind


4.22814380
Romania_Moldavia_Galati


6.29470412
Romania_Moldavia_Bacau


6.81926682
Romania_Moldavia_Vrancea


7.35243497
Romania_Moldavia_Iasi


7.64440972
Romania_Moldavia_Vaslui


8.25953994
Romania_Moldavia_Neamt


9.70001546
Romania_Moldavia_Botosani


10.90740116
Romania_Moldavia_Suceava

</tbody>

Leto
08-30-2020, 04:52 PM
Turkic admixture is recent in some Europeans, 600-1500 years, and can affect very much the look of some European populations. Finno-Ugric one is more balanced, because the Mongoloid component is old, from Paleolithic. Slavs who assimilated Finno-Ugric populations show such traits, but are not so screaming, plus they are not swarthy. Turkic admixture most of time produce swarthy wogish look.
Well, Volga Tatars can be very light, can be like you (pretty common), can be slightly darker as well. But I think their EE is not entirely from the Volga Bulgars. Some other Turkics are mixed with dark Caucasoids.

Ion Basescul
08-30-2020, 04:54 PM
Results may be but the tan isn't.

Lucky bastard

https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/001/569/458/f2e.png

Ion Basescul
08-30-2020, 05:03 PM
Last one for today comes from Iasi (Romania's Moldavia).



# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 24.97
2 Baltic 24.41
3 West_Med 19.71
4 East_Med 13.32
5 West_Asian 10.78
6 Red_Sea 3.16
7 East_Asian 2.38
8 Siberian 0.77
9 Amerindian 0.5


Single Population Sharing:


# Population (source) Distance
1 Romanian 5.31
2 Serbian 5.66
3 Bulgarian 7.1
4 Moldavian 9.99
5 Hungarian 12.17
6 Croatian 12.58
7 Greek_Thessaly 13.88
8 Austrian 13.95
9 North_Italian 15.2
10 East_German 15.71
11 Tuscan 16.83
12 French 17.59
13 West_German 17.64
14 Ukrainian_Lviv 18.89
15 South_Dutch 18.9
16 Portuguese 18.91
17 Spanish_Galicia 18.98
18 Italian_Abruzzo 19.18
19 South_Polish 19.76
20 Spanish_Extremadura 19.94


Mixed Mode Population Sharing:


# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 63.9% Moldavian + 36.1% Tuscan @ 3.69
2 61.5% Moldavian + 38.5% North_Italian @ 3.82
3 90.6% Serbian + 9.4% Sardinian @ 4.13
4 69.1% Moldavian + 30.9% West_Sicilian @ 4.4
5 92.3% Romanian + 7.7% French_Basque @ 4.44
6 88.3% Romanian + 11.7% Southwest_French @ 4.45
7 61.4% Croatian + 38.6% Italian_Abruzzo @ 4.53
8 67.7% Moldavian + 32.3% Italian_Abruzzo @ 4.54
9 58% Croatian + 42% Tuscan @ 4.56
10 63.1% Croatian + 36.9% West_Sicilian @ 4.56
11 89.1% Romanian + 10.9% Spanish_Cantabria @ 4.6
12 53.1% Tuscan + 46.9% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 4.6
13 87.9% Romanian + 12.1% Spanish_Galicia @ 4.66
14 52.2% Ukrainian_Lviv + 47.8% West_Sicilian @ 4.74
15 90.3% Romanian + 9.7% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 4.77
16 86.6% Romanian + 13.4% East_German @ 4.78
17 91.5% Romanian + 8.5% Spanish_Aragon @ 4.79
18 74.1% Bulgarian + 25.9% East_German @ 4.8
19 89.9% Romanian + 10.1% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 4.8
20 50.4% Ukrainian_Lviv + 49.6% Italian_Abruzzo @ 4.81



<tbody>
Distance to:
Iasi_ind


5.39272658
Romania_Oltenia


5.41737021
Romania_Moldova_Sud


5.52317843
Romania_Transilvania


6.80265389
Romania_Crisana


7.11145555
Romania_Banat


7.30035616
Romania_Dobrogea


7.66951759
Romania_Maramures


7.79336898
Romania_Muntenia


7.96314446
Romania_Transilvania_Szekely


8.01300193
Romania_Moldova_Nord


8.15536020
Bulgarian


8.18860763
Romania_Transilvania_Hungarian


8.19161156
Romania_Moldova_Csango


8.79176888
Aromanian_North-Macedonia


10.55625407
Aromanian_North-Macedonia-Highlander


14.30375475
Aromanian_Central-Macedonia


16.61117997
Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk


21.35908940
Ukrainian_Lviv


26.00835250
Crimean_Tatar


28.57579045
Romania_Dobruja_Tatar


29.45320865
Romania_Jewish


33.17838152
Romania_Roma

</tbody>




Target: Iasi_ind
Distance: 3.6989% / 3.69891125 | ADC: 0.25x
51.6 Romania_Transilvania_Hungarian
47.0 Aromanian_North-Macedonia
1.4 Crimean_Tatar

-Aromanian, Hungarian
Target: Iasi_ind
Distance: 5.0791% / 5.07905817 | ADC: 0.25x
92.0 Romania_Oltenia
5.8 Ukrainian_Lviv
2.2 Crimean_Tatar

-Oltenia, Crisana, Transilvania
Target: Iasi_ind
Distance: 5.3636% / 5.36358634 | ADC: 0.25x
98.0 Romania_Moldova_Sud
2.0 Crimean_Tatar






<tbody>
Distance to:
Iasi_ind


5.59722253
Romania_Moldavia_Galati


5.93177882
Romania_Moldavia_Bacau


6.24691124
Romania_Moldavia_Vaslui


6.73087661
Romania_Moldavia_Vrancea


6.92288957
Romania_Moldavia_Iasi


6.99456217
Romania_Moldavia_Neamt


8.53392055
Romania_Moldavia_Botosani


9.40059041
Romania_Moldavia_Suceava


</tbody>

Aspirin
08-30-2020, 06:43 PM
Last one for today comes from Iasi (Romania's Moldavia).

From the city?

Aspirin
08-30-2020, 06:49 PM
Well, Volga Tatars can be very light, can be like you (pretty common), can be slightly darker as well. But I think their EE is not entirely from the Volga Bulgars. Some other Turkics are mixed with dark Caucasoids.

Volga Tatars live in the area surounded by many Finno-Ugric populations, plus exist other Turkic populations in that region like Chuvash and Bashkir who have way more dark types than any Finno-Ugric population from the Volga region.

Leto
08-30-2020, 07:05 PM
Volga Tatars live in the area surounded by many Finno-Ugric populations, plus exist other Turkic populations in that region like Chuvash and Bashkir who have way more dark types than any Finno-Ugric population from the Volga region.
Not sure about Chuvash being darker than the others. They're very similar to Mari people for example. Bashkirs are more Eastern both genetically and geographically (Yuzhnoye Priuralye), so it's no surprise.
Let's not derail the thread any further, I admit I was the one who started.

Aspirin
08-30-2020, 07:22 PM
Not sure about Chuvash being darker than the others. They're very similar to Mari people for example. Bashkirs are more Eastern both genetically and geographically (Yuzhnoye Priuralye), so it's no surprise.
Let's not derail the thread any further, I admit I was the one who started.

Well, I was 6 years ago in that region, so I managed to see some local people.

Ion Basescul
08-30-2020, 10:28 PM
From the city?

Could be, I only know the county and nothing more specific for this one.

Aspirin
08-31-2020, 08:57 AM
7 East_Asian 2.38
8 Siberian 0.77



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AMndPTS0KLY

Ion Basescul
08-31-2020, 11:42 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AMndPTS0KLY

There's also some Amerindian on top that you forgot to quote.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WgD57y4Tkng

Ion Basescul
08-31-2020, 12:28 PM
Romanian from Botosani, grandparent of another one from Suceava that I've posted in the past.


# Population Percent
1 Baltic 40
2 North_Atlantic 18.23
3 West_Med 15.66
4 East_Med 10.78
5 West_Asian 8.32
6 South_Asian 2.34
7 Amerindian 1.93
8 Siberian 1
9 Oceanian 0.99
10 East_Asian 0.76


Single Population Sharing:


# Population (source) Distance
1 Moldavian 8.28
2 Croatian 9.02
3 Ukrainian_Lviv 10.27
4 Ukrainian 10.76
5 Southwest_Russian 12.34
6 Ukrainian_Belgorod 12.63
7 South_Polish 12.69
8 Polish 14.39
9 Russian_Smolensk 14.72
10 Serbian 14.74
11 Hungarian 14.8
12 Estonian_Polish 14.95
13 Kargopol_Russian 15.72
14 Erzya 15.93
15 Belorussian 16.23
16 Romanian 16.54
17 Bulgarian 17.22
18 East_German 18.65
19 Austrian 19.2
20 Tatar 19.39


Mixed Mode Population Sharing:


# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 52.2% Erzya + 47.8% Bulgarian @ 6.15
2 62.6% Erzya + 37.4% Greek_Thessaly @ 6.24
3 74.3% Moldavian + 25.7% Erzya @ 6.59
4 84.2% Ukrainian + 15.8% Cyprian @ 6.7
5 70.3% Southwest_Russian + 29.7% Greek_Thessaly @ 6.77
6 68.6% Erzya + 31.4% Central_Greek @ 6.81
7 86.1% Ukrainian + 13.9% Lebanese_Christian @ 6.83
8 85.8% Ukrainian + 14.2% Samaritan @ 6.84
9 71.2% Lithuanian + 28.8% Cyprian @ 6.86
10 81.4% Southwest_Russian + 18.6% Cyprian @ 6.88
11 69.7% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 30.3% Greek_Thessaly @ 6.89
12 85.6% Ukrainian + 14.4% Assyrian @ 6.9
13 52.8% Kargopol_Russian + 47.2% Bulgarian @ 6.92
14 82.1% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 17.9% Sardinian @ 6.92
15 51.1% Erzya + 48.9% Romanian @ 6.92
16 75.5% Southwest_Russian + 24.5% Central_Greek @ 6.92
17 60.7% Southwest_Russian + 39.3% Bulgarian @ 6.93
18 71.5% Erzya + 28.5% South_Italian @ 6.94
19 85.6% Ukrainian + 14.4% Georgian_Jewish @ 6.96
20 77.2% Estonian_Polish + 22.8% Cyprian @ 6.97

They have comparable levels of N_Atlantic+Baltic, meaning that the rest of the 3gp had a similar genetic profile:
https://i.imgur.com/olmb2BD.png

Jana
09-01-2020, 04:01 PM
Romanian from Botosani, grandparent of another one from Suceava that I've posted in the past.


# Population Percent
1 Baltic 40
2 North_Atlantic 18.23
3 West_Med 15.66
4 East_Med 10.78
5 West_Asian 8.32
6 South_Asian 2.34
7 Amerindian 1.93
8 Siberian 1
9 Oceanian 0.99
10 East_Asian 0.76


Single Population Sharing:


# Population (source) Distance
1 Moldavian 8.28
2 Croatian 9.02
3 Ukrainian_Lviv 10.27
4 Ukrainian 10.76
5 Southwest_Russian 12.34
6 Ukrainian_Belgorod 12.63
7 South_Polish 12.69
8 Polish 14.39
9 Russian_Smolensk 14.72
10 Serbian 14.74
11 Hungarian 14.8
12 Estonian_Polish 14.95
13 Kargopol_Russian 15.72
14 Erzya 15.93
15 Belorussian 16.23
16 Romanian 16.54
17 Bulgarian 17.22
18 East_German 18.65
19 Austrian 19.2
20 Tatar 19.39


Mixed Mode Population Sharing:


# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 52.2% Erzya + 47.8% Bulgarian @ 6.15
2 62.6% Erzya + 37.4% Greek_Thessaly @ 6.24
3 74.3% Moldavian + 25.7% Erzya @ 6.59
4 84.2% Ukrainian + 15.8% Cyprian @ 6.7
5 70.3% Southwest_Russian + 29.7% Greek_Thessaly @ 6.77
6 68.6% Erzya + 31.4% Central_Greek @ 6.81
7 86.1% Ukrainian + 13.9% Lebanese_Christian @ 6.83
8 85.8% Ukrainian + 14.2% Samaritan @ 6.84
9 71.2% Lithuanian + 28.8% Cyprian @ 6.86
10 81.4% Southwest_Russian + 18.6% Cyprian @ 6.88
11 69.7% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 30.3% Greek_Thessaly @ 6.89
12 85.6% Ukrainian + 14.4% Assyrian @ 6.9
13 52.8% Kargopol_Russian + 47.2% Bulgarian @ 6.92
14 82.1% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 17.9% Sardinian @ 6.92
15 51.1% Erzya + 48.9% Romanian @ 6.92
16 75.5% Southwest_Russian + 24.5% Central_Greek @ 6.92
17 60.7% Southwest_Russian + 39.3% Bulgarian @ 6.93
18 71.5% Erzya + 28.5% South_Italian @ 6.94
19 85.6% Ukrainian + 14.4% Georgian_Jewish @ 6.96
20 77.2% Estonian_Polish + 22.8% Cyprian @ 6.97

They have comparable levels of N_Atlantic+Baltic, meaning that the rest of the 3gp had a similar genetic profile:
https://i.imgur.com/olmb2BD.png

Very much Slavic. This region seem very northern.

Jana
09-01-2020, 04:04 PM
...

Will you do the test someday? 23andme V5 not worth it, Myheritage is now half price and if you decide to test I recommend them.

Ion Basescul
09-01-2020, 04:30 PM
Very much Slavic. This region seem very northern.

They have foreign ancestry (Rusyn and Polish) from the late 18th century, but that's too distant to be considered mixed. But yeah, Botosani and Suceava are the Northern-most. They must have assimilated a lot of Ukrainian/Rusyns in the past.

Aspirin
09-01-2020, 08:06 PM
Very much Slavic. This region seem very northern.

Seems to have recent Slavic admixture, for Botoșani, and in general for both Romanian Moldova and Republic he is totally atypical with such high Baltic score.

Aspirin
09-01-2020, 08:10 PM
Will you do the test someday? 23andme V5 not worth it, Myheritage is now half price and if you decide to test I recommend them.

Not now, but I want to test my parents too, not only me.

Leto
09-01-2020, 08:22 PM
Not now, but I want to test my parents too, not only me.
You've been talking about it for about a year. Since early 2020 at least ;)

WeirdLookingFellow
09-01-2020, 08:23 PM
They have foreign ancestry (Rusyn and Polish) from the late 18th century, but that's too distant to be considered mixed. But yeah, Botosani and Suceava are the Northern-most. They must have assimilated a lot of Ukrainian/Rusyns in the past.

Rusyn ancestry can go back as early as 15th century. Also 40% Baltic now that's something, new record I guess.

WeirdLookingFellow
09-01-2020, 08:24 PM
You've been talking about it for about a year. Since early 2020 at least ;)

Finances have been difficult since Russians stopped buying Moldovan wine.

Ion Basescul
09-01-2020, 08:24 PM
Seems to have recent Slavic admixture, for Botoșani, and in general for both Romanian Moldova and Republic he is totally atypical with such high Baltic score.

Both you and Stearsolina should take both N_Atlantic and Baltic into account, considering that Ukrainians score about 25% NA and 45% Baltic on average. So having 40% Baltic and 18% North Atlantic (below the average for Moldova and Romania) indicates that the components were not distributed in a balanced manner. This is a 23andme v5 result, so only 58k SNPs for Eurogenes K13.

Ion Basescul
09-01-2020, 08:27 PM
You've been talking about it for about a year. Since early 2020 at least ;)


Finances have been difficult since Russians stopped buying Moldovan wine.

You guys shouldn't bully and peer pressure. If I only worked in Moldova, getting a genetic test would be one of my last priorities.

WeirdLookingFellow
09-01-2020, 08:30 PM
You guys shouldn't bully and peer pressure. If I only worked in Moldova, getting a genetic test would be one of my last priorities.

I know and I respect his decision, I make a Romanian salary and I'm not asking my entire family to swab their cheeks. Tho I should to figure out who has Kraut blood.

It's still funny tho.

Aspirin
09-01-2020, 08:39 PM
You've been talking about it for about a year. Since early 2020 at least ;)

I need money now, and even if I will test only myself, I will not be satisfied. I want to test both parents too, since they both are full ethnic Moldavians from rural area, but from two neighboring district.

Leto
09-01-2020, 08:49 PM
I need money now, and even if I will test only myself, I will not be satisfied. I want to test both parents too, since they both are full ethnic Moldavians from rural area, but from two neighboring district.
Are there any results from your districts?

Ion Basescul
09-01-2020, 08:51 PM
I know and I respect his decision, I make a Romanian salary and I'm not asking my entire family to swab their cheeks. Tho I should to figure out who has Kraut blood.

It's still funny tho.Probably the side from Suceava, if I were yo guess.

Sent from my Redmi 4X using Tapatalk

Leto
09-01-2020, 09:02 PM
@Ion Basescul, you have these two, don't you?

Population
North_Atlantic 28.01 Pct
Baltic 33.71 Pct
West_Med 12.74 Pct
West_Asian 9.95 Pct
East_Med 10.04 Pct
Red_Sea 1.66 Pct
South_Asian -
East_Asian 1.26 Pct
Siberian 2.01 Pct
Amerindian 0.51 Pct
Oceanian 0.11 Pct
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Croatian 4
2 Moldavian 4.15
3 Hungarian 5.07
4 Serbian 8.17
5 Ukrainian_Lviv 8.85
6 South_Polish 9.24
7 Austrian 9.57
8 East_German 9.87
9 Ukrainian 10.24
10 Romanian 11.96
11 Polish 12.94
12 Southwest_Russian 13.56
13 Ukrainian_Belgorod 13.68
14 Bulgarian 14.31
15 Russian_Smolensk 15.13
16 Estonian_Polish 15.85
17 Belorussian 16.28
18 West_German 17.03
19 Kargopol_Russian 17.29
20 Southwest_Finnish 17.32

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 84.1% Moldavian + 15.9% North_Swedish @ 2.4
2 57% Moldavian + 43% Hungarian @ 2.46
3 85.8% Moldavian + 14.2% Swedish @ 2.51
4 76.2% South_Polish + 23.8% Italian_Abruzzo @ 2.53
5 87.1% Moldavian + 12.9% Norwegian @ 2.54
6 56.8% South_Polish + 43.2% Romanian @ 2.59
7 85.2% Moldavian + 14.8% North_German @ 2.64
8 52.2% Serbian + 47.8% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 2.64
9 62.5% Romanian + 37.5% Estonian @ 2.65
10 92.1% Croatian + 7.9% Nogay @ 2.68
11 62.1% Romanian + 37.9% Finnish @ 2.68
12 87.1% Moldavian + 12.9% Danish @ 2.7
13 87.3% Moldavian + 12.7% North_Dutch @ 2.71
14 68.9% Serbian + 31.1% Kargopol_Russian @ 2.74
15 63.5% Serbian + 36.5% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 2.76
16 53.4% Serbian + 46.6% South_Polish @ 2.77
17 77.1% South_Polish + 22.9% Central_Greek @ 2.78
18 79.5% South_Polish + 20.5% South_Italian @ 2.85
19 71.7% Serbian + 28.3% Estonian @ 2.86
20 56.2% Serbian + 43.8% Ukrainian @ 2.88


Population
North_Atlantic 25.50 Pct
Baltic 39.14 Pct
West_Med 13.68 Pct
West_Asian 10.09 Pct
East_Med 7.49 Pct
Red_Sea 0.57 Pct
South_Asian 0.24 Pct
East_Asian 0.75 Pct
Siberian 1.75 Pct
Amerindian -
Oceanian 0.39 Pct
Northeast_African 0.10 Pct
Sub-Saharan 0.30 Pct

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Croatian 4.54
2 Ukrainian_Lviv 4.94
3 Moldavian 6
4 Ukrainian 6.1
5 South_Polish 6.62
6 Ukrainian_Belgorod 9.25
7 Southwest_Russian 9.28
8 Polish 9.46
9 Hungarian 9.67
10 Russian_Smolensk 10.97
11 Estonian_Polish 11.78
12 Belorussian 12.61
13 East_German 12.69
14 Serbian 12.98
15 Kargopol_Russian 13.18
16 Austrian 13.49
17 Erzya 14.72
18 Romanian 16.28
19 Estonian 16.38
20 Southwest_Finnish 16.39

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 90.2% Ukrainian + 9.8% Georgian @ 2.26
2 90.2% Ukrainian + 9.8% Armenian @ 2.27
3 90.6% Ukrainian + 9.4% Abhkasian @ 2.29
4 61.8% Moldavian + 38.2% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 2.31
5 88.6% Ukrainian + 11.4% Turkish @ 2.4
6 50.5% Moldavian + 49.5% Ukrainian @ 2.44
7 74.9% Moldavian + 25.1% Lithuanian @ 2.46
8 88.6% Ukrainian + 11.4% Balkar @ 2.47
9 89.4% Ukrainian + 10.6% Ossetian @ 2.48
10 66.2% Moldavian + 33.8% Russian_Smolensk @ 2.49
11 62.2% Moldavian + 37.8% Southwest_Russian @ 2.56
12 90.3% Ukrainian + 9.7% Georgian_Jewish @ 2.58
13 88.9% Ukrainian + 11.1% Adygei @ 2.58
14 56.3% Ukrainian_Lviv + 43.7% Moldavian @ 2.59
15 92.6% Ukrainian_Lviv + 7.4% Armenian @ 2.63
16 88.3% Ukrainian + 11.7% Kabardin @ 2.63
17 79.7% Croatian + 20.3% Erzya @ 2.64
18 88.2% Ukrainian + 11.8% Kumyk @ 2.65
19 92.9% Ukrainian_Lviv + 7.1% Abhkasian @ 2.65
20 89.2% Ukrainian + 10.8% North_Ossetian @ 2.67

I found them in an txt file from 2017-18, for some damn reason I listed them as being from Moldova.

Aspirin
09-01-2020, 09:04 PM
Are there any results from your districts?

Only these ones from my district, Fălești, Central-North region. But only 23andme results.


https://i.imgur.com/XhwSrtO.png
https://i.imgur.com/91vwQ0A.png


Plus this one with half ancestry from here: https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?318490-Moldovan-Romanian-GEDmatch-Resuts&p=6777411&viewfull=1#post6777411

Jana
09-01-2020, 09:26 PM
Both you and Stearsolina should take both N_Atlantic and Baltic into account, considering that Ukrainians score about 25% NA and 45% Baltic on average. So having 40% Baltic and 18% North Atlantic (below the average for Moldova and Romania) indicates that the components were not distributed in a balanced manner. This is a 23andme v5 result, so only 58k SNPs for Eurogenes K13.

Right.I didn't even notice low NA, it's unusualy low. Might be problem with V5 data.
Knez 01 also had same problem high Baltic and very low NA (lowest overall), and it was bit more balanced after conversion to V3.

Ion Basescul
09-01-2020, 09:26 PM
@Ion Basescul, you have these two, don't you?

Population
North_Atlantic 28.01 Pct
Baltic 33.71 Pct
West_Med 12.74 Pct
West_Asian 9.95 Pct
East_Med 10.04 Pct
Red_Sea 1.66 Pct
South_Asian -
East_Asian 1.26 Pct
Siberian 2.01 Pct
Amerindian 0.51 Pct
Oceanian 0.11 Pct
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Croatian 4
2 Moldavian 4.15
3 Hungarian 5.07
4 Serbian 8.17
5 Ukrainian_Lviv 8.85
6 South_Polish 9.24
7 Austrian 9.57
8 East_German 9.87
9 Ukrainian 10.24
10 Romanian 11.96
11 Polish 12.94
12 Southwest_Russian 13.56
13 Ukrainian_Belgorod 13.68
14 Bulgarian 14.31
15 Russian_Smolensk 15.13
16 Estonian_Polish 15.85
17 Belorussian 16.28
18 West_German 17.03
19 Kargopol_Russian 17.29
20 Southwest_Finnish 17.32

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 84.1% Moldavian + 15.9% North_Swedish @ 2.4
2 57% Moldavian + 43% Hungarian @ 2.46
3 85.8% Moldavian + 14.2% Swedish @ 2.51
4 76.2% South_Polish + 23.8% Italian_Abruzzo @ 2.53
5 87.1% Moldavian + 12.9% Norwegian @ 2.54
6 56.8% South_Polish + 43.2% Romanian @ 2.59
7 85.2% Moldavian + 14.8% North_German @ 2.64
8 52.2% Serbian + 47.8% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 2.64
9 62.5% Romanian + 37.5% Estonian @ 2.65
10 92.1% Croatian + 7.9% Nogay @ 2.68
11 62.1% Romanian + 37.9% Finnish @ 2.68
12 87.1% Moldavian + 12.9% Danish @ 2.7
13 87.3% Moldavian + 12.7% North_Dutch @ 2.71
14 68.9% Serbian + 31.1% Kargopol_Russian @ 2.74
15 63.5% Serbian + 36.5% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 2.76
16 53.4% Serbian + 46.6% South_Polish @ 2.77
17 77.1% South_Polish + 22.9% Central_Greek @ 2.78
18 79.5% South_Polish + 20.5% South_Italian @ 2.85
19 71.7% Serbian + 28.3% Estonian @ 2.86
20 56.2% Serbian + 43.8% Ukrainian @ 2.88


Population
North_Atlantic 25.50 Pct
Baltic 39.14 Pct
West_Med 13.68 Pct
West_Asian 10.09 Pct
East_Med 7.49 Pct
Red_Sea 0.57 Pct
South_Asian 0.24 Pct
East_Asian 0.75 Pct
Siberian 1.75 Pct
Amerindian -
Oceanian 0.39 Pct
Northeast_African 0.10 Pct
Sub-Saharan 0.30 Pct

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Croatian 4.54
2 Ukrainian_Lviv 4.94
3 Moldavian 6
4 Ukrainian 6.1
5 South_Polish 6.62
6 Ukrainian_Belgorod 9.25
7 Southwest_Russian 9.28
8 Polish 9.46
9 Hungarian 9.67
10 Russian_Smolensk 10.97
11 Estonian_Polish 11.78
12 Belorussian 12.61
13 East_German 12.69
14 Serbian 12.98
15 Kargopol_Russian 13.18
16 Austrian 13.49
17 Erzya 14.72
18 Romanian 16.28
19 Estonian 16.38
20 Southwest_Finnish 16.39

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 90.2% Ukrainian + 9.8% Georgian @ 2.26
2 90.2% Ukrainian + 9.8% Armenian @ 2.27
3 90.6% Ukrainian + 9.4% Abhkasian @ 2.29
4 61.8% Moldavian + 38.2% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 2.31
5 88.6% Ukrainian + 11.4% Turkish @ 2.4
6 50.5% Moldavian + 49.5% Ukrainian @ 2.44
7 74.9% Moldavian + 25.1% Lithuanian @ 2.46
8 88.6% Ukrainian + 11.4% Balkar @ 2.47
9 89.4% Ukrainian + 10.6% Ossetian @ 2.48
10 66.2% Moldavian + 33.8% Russian_Smolensk @ 2.49
11 62.2% Moldavian + 37.8% Southwest_Russian @ 2.56
12 90.3% Ukrainian + 9.7% Georgian_Jewish @ 2.58
13 88.9% Ukrainian + 11.1% Adygei @ 2.58
14 56.3% Ukrainian_Lviv + 43.7% Moldavian @ 2.59
15 92.6% Ukrainian_Lviv + 7.4% Armenian @ 2.63
16 88.3% Ukrainian + 11.7% Kabardin @ 2.63
17 79.7% Croatian + 20.3% Erzya @ 2.64
18 88.2% Ukrainian + 11.8% Kumyk @ 2.65
19 92.9% Ukrainian_Lviv + 7.1% Abhkasian @ 2.65
20 89.2% Ukrainian + 10.8% North_Ossetian @ 2.67

I found them in an txt file from 2017-18, for some damn reason I listed them as being from Moldova.

I am not sure I have the first one, need to check closer (send GEDmatch if you have and I'll ask them), but the second one is a 3/4 Moldovan Ukrainian from Riscani district and 1/4 from Poltava Ukraine.

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?327651-Moldovan-Romanian-GEDmatch-Results-v2&p=6797716&viewfull=1#post6797716

Ion Basescul
09-01-2020, 09:30 PM
Right.I didn't even notice low NA, it's unusualy low. Might be problem with V5 data.
Knez 01 also had same problem high Baltic and very low NA (lowest overall), and it was bit more balanced after conversion to V3.

The nephew doesn't have this problem and the sum of those components is basically the same. That's because he tested with the old Ancestry test.



I also had the same problem with the kits of my family when compared to mine and that got resolved after imputation.

Lucas
09-01-2020, 09:34 PM
First results from Telenesti (Republic of Moldova) and I got two of them at once. Nice

https://i.imgur.com/9DOx1Ch.jpg

I think this one is almost identical to mine.


Is Guta from this area?:)

Ion Basescul
09-01-2020, 09:39 PM
Is Guta from this area?:)

No, he is from Hunedoara county, so Southwest Transylvania. That's just a reaction gif for when you count something.

Lucas
09-01-2020, 09:41 PM
No, he is from Hunedoara county, so Southwest Transylvania. That's just a reaction gif for when you count something.

I guessed but wanted to be sure:)

Aspirin
09-01-2020, 09:48 PM
Is Guta from this area?:)

Shit like this in RM don't exist.

Leto
09-01-2020, 09:51 PM
Only these ones from my district, Fălești, Central-North region. But only 23andme results.


https://i.imgur.com/XhwSrtO.png
https://i.imgur.com/91vwQ0A.png


Plus this one with half ancestry from here: https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?318490-Moldovan-Romanian-GEDmatch-Resuts&p=6777411&viewfull=1#post6777411
I see. You're almost certainly not going to be like Gagauz or Wallachians if you are like them, I think.

Aspirin
09-01-2020, 10:07 PM
I see. You're almost certainly not going to be like Gagauz or Wallachians if you are like them, I think.

Well, my father side is from here, and looks quite Slavic. And I am interested to see father results because of look, since I don't know about any recent Slavic ancestry from his side.

Ion Basescul
09-02-2020, 01:44 PM
I've got an interesting sample from Vaslui with 4gp from there.

It's preemptive to jump to conclusions, but some of you guys might want to prepare that apology speech for IncelSlayer (Vaslui is just above Galati).

Maybe Nurzat can tell us more about the profile in Vaslui. Are there Romanian villages that assimilated minorities in the past?

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Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan


25.62
37.17
12.89
6.15
13.09
2.67
0
1.15
0
1.00
0
0
0.25

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Distance to:
Vaslui_ind


3.70656175
Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk


4.03798217
Bosniak_Bosnia_NE&Central


5.13194895
Croat_Slavonia


5.45812239
Croat_Istria_&_Kvarner


5.86291736
Moldova_North


5.93504844
Croat_Croatia_Lika-Senj


5.93578133
Croat


6.05978547
Croat_B&H_Herzegovina


6.11496525
Croat_Croatia


6.22355204
Croat_B&H


6.32101258
Croat_B&H_Bosnia


6.52469923
Hungarian_Alfold


6.90902309
Croat_B&H_West_Bosnia


6.91737445
Bosniak_Sarajevo


7.10858636
Croat_Croatia_Dalmatia


7.37154665
Serb_B&H_Bosnia_proper


7.42233117
Hungarian_Northern


7.61747007
Slovak


7.61794592
Bosniak


7.77280516
Hungarian


7.88051394
Slovenian


8.26912329
Croat_Croatia_Zagorje


8.53021688
Serb_B&H


8.55643033
Croat_Croatia_Gorski_Kotar


8.67187984
Hungarian_Budapest

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<tbody>
Distance to:
Vaslui_ind


3.70656175
Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk


5.86291736
Republica_Moldova_Nord


8.22964155
Republica_Moldova_Ukrainian


8.91645670
Romania_Moldova_Csango


8.93457889
Romania_Moldova_Nord


8.94940221
Romania_Maramures


9.52551734
Romania_Transilvania_Hungarian


9.63086704
Ukrainian_Lviv


10.02325296
Republica_Moldova_Centru


10.34011646
Romania_Transilvania_Szekely


10.93241053
Romania_Crisana


12.50659026
Romania_Moldova_Sud


13.65454503
Romania_Transilvania


14.71615779
Romania_Banat


14.83793786
Romania_Oltenia


15.71195087
Republica_Moldova_Sud


16.06601071
Romania_Dobrogea


16.14385642
Romania_Muntenia


17.20852696
Bulgarian


19.39632439
Republica_Moldova_Sud_Gagauz


20.46946995
Aromanian_North-Macedonia-Highlander


20.69447028
Republica_Moldova_Bulgarian


21.17033538
Aromanian_North-Macedonia


26.13684947
Aromanian_Central-Macedonia


30.48095307
Romania_Dobruja_Tatar


31.01943745
Crimean_Tatar


39.05849459
Romania_Jewish


40.75691966
Romania_Roma



</tbody>


:033102st:
Target: Vaslui_ind
Distance: 2.7228% / 2.72276805 | ADC: 0.25x
82.2 Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk
9.0 Republica_Moldova_Ukrainian
5.6 Aromanian_North-Macedonia-Highlander
3.2 Romania_Jewish


<tbody>
Distance to:
Vaslui_ind


4.59823879
Romania_Moldavia_Ukrainian


4.76195338
Moldova_Falesti


4.96501762
Moldova_1/2Moldovan_1/2EastSlavic


5.40576544
Moldova_Rezina


5.59710640
Moldova_Floresti


6.71645740
Moldova_Soldanesti


6.89422947
Moldova_Ocnita


7.03893458
Moldova_Balti


7.18047352
Romania_Moldavia_Suceava


7.54748302
Moldova_Edinet


7.70374584
Moldova_Transnistria


8.22964155
Moldova_Ukrainian


8.38045345
Moldova_Briceni


8.49676409
Moldova_Ialoveni


8.51711219
Moldova_Eurogenes


8.59051221
Romania_Moldavia_Botosani


8.92118826
Romania_Moldavia_Csango


8.92249965
Moldova_Nisporeni


9.17205539
Moldova_Glodeni


9.58496740
Moldova_Straseni


9.68546333
Moldova_Orhei


10.11729707
Moldova_Chisinau


10.17171569
Moldova_Calarasi


10.97702601
Romania_Moldavia_Iasi


11.06753812
Romania_Moldavia_Vaslui

</tbody>

Aspirin
09-02-2020, 06:19 PM
I've got an interesting sample from Vaslui with 4gp from there.

It's preemptive to jump to conclusions, but some of you guys might want to prepare that apology speech for IncelSlayer (Vaslui is just above Galati).

Maybe Nurzat can tell us more about the profile in Vaslui. Are there Romanian villages that assimilated minorities in the past?


The only minorities in region hypothetically can be Csangos, but they don't live here, and are not so northern. Maybe some Ukrainians from the north came here, and assimilated.

WeirdLookingFellow
09-02-2020, 06:23 PM
I've got an interesting sample from Vaslui with 4gp from there.

It's preemptive to jump to conclusions, but some of you guys might want to prepare that apology speech for IncelSlayer (Vaslui is just above Galati).

Maybe Nurzat can tell us more about the profile in Vaslui. Are there Romanian villages that assimilated minorities in the past?



Unless we're talking about heavy inbreeding of Rusyn boyars from the 13th century, then this man might just be mixed with a Russian that came from over the Prut or something.

Edit: Or Lipovan.

Aspirin
09-02-2020, 06:25 PM
Rusyn boyars from the 13th century

???

Leto
09-02-2020, 06:29 PM
Rusyn = Russian (russki) if we're talking about the 13th century.

WeirdLookingFellow
09-02-2020, 06:35 PM
???

https://ro.qwe.wiki/wiki/Brodnici

Aspirin
09-02-2020, 06:53 PM
https://ro.qwe.wiki/wiki/Brodnici



au fost un trib de origine incertă.

Aspirin
09-02-2020, 06:57 PM
Rusyn = Russian (russki) if we're talking about the 13th century.

Yes, but in that area they didn't live, especially in that times (13th century).

WeirdLookingFellow
09-02-2020, 06:58 PM
The joke was that he might be Ploskynya's successor.

Or maybe even Mazepa's, but he was buried in Galați, a bit too south.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ivan_Mazepa

Ion Basescul
09-02-2020, 07:15 PM
Unless we're talking about heavy inbreeding of Rusyn boyars from the 13th century, then this man might just be mixed with a Russian that came from over the Prut or something.

Edit: Or Lipovan.

But all 4gp are only Romanian, so this can't be a case of recent admixture. In situations like this, I think that we are looking at people whose cultural and ethnic identity got replaced. That's why I was wondering if there were some Slavic settlements in Vaslui.

WeirdLookingFellow
09-02-2020, 07:18 PM
But all 4gp are only Romanian, so this can't be a case of recent admixture. In situations like this, I think that we are looking at people whose cultural and ethnic identity got replaced. That's why I was wondering if there were some Slavic settlements in Vaslui.

Are they all from Vaslui the city or from villages ? Do they have non-peculiar last names? Maybe they moved around from N. Bukovina and are adamant that they have no Ukrainian admixture.

Ion Basescul
09-02-2020, 07:20 PM
Are they all from Vaslui the city or from villages ? Do they have non-peculiar last names? Maybe they moved around from N. Bukovina and are adamant that they have no Ukrainian admixture.

From Vaslui, the rest is not specified.

WeirdLookingFellow
09-02-2020, 07:28 PM
Maybe lost Lipovans, some of them, especially the urban ones lost their identities if there weren't enough of them around.

Or maybe he is a true Yamnaya descendant, who knows.

Ion Basescul
09-02-2020, 08:14 PM
Maybe lost Lipovans, some of them, especially the urban ones lost their identities if there weren't enough of them around.

Or maybe he is a true Yamnaya descendant, who knows.

Yamnaya were very far from that genetic profile.

Anyway, here's another result.

Neamt (Romania's Moldavia)

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N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan


23.95
24.80
18.46
11.96
15.86
1.51
0
0
1.28
0.66
1.02
0.50
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Distance to:
Neamt_ind


2.80158883
Romanian_Oltenia


2.88549822
Montenegrin


3.09711156
Romania_Transylvania


3.20908087
Bosniak_Sandzak


3.36275185
Romania_Moldavia_South


3.49586899
Romanian_Wallachia


3.67484694
Moldova_South


3.81449866
Macedonian_Northwest


3.97107109
Macedonian


4.32839462
Romania_Banat


4.36802015
Bulgarian_Gabrovo


4.49815518
Romania_Dobruja


4.54314869
Bulgarian_Stara-Zagora


4.69789314
Romania_Muntenia


4.86556266
Serb_Serbia_South&East


5.05931814
Bulgarian


5.06493830
Bulgarian_North-Rhodope


5.14940773
Romania_Moldavia_average


5.18407176
Bulgarian_Central


5.47311611
Serb_Croatia_Dalmatia


5.54442062
Serb_B&H_Herzegovina


5.62998224
Serb_Serbia


5.68729285
Serb


5.70181550
Serb_Croatia_Kordun&Banija


5.71421036
Serb_Croatia


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<tbody>
Distance to:
Neamt_ind


2.80158883
Romania_Oltenia


3.09711156
Romania_Transilvania


3.36275185
Romania_Moldova_Sud


4.32839462
Romania_Banat


4.49815518
Romania_Dobrogea


4.69789314
Romania_Muntenia


5.05931814
Bulgarian


6.20295897
Romania_Crisana


6.74677701
Romania_Moldova_Nord


7.01768480
Romania_Maramures


7.65853772
Aromanian_North-Macedonia


7.96177744
Romania_Moldova_Csango


8.33377317
Romania_Transilvania_Szekely


8.55084206
Aromanian_North-Macedonia-Highlander


8.75532217
Romania_Transilvania_Hungarian


12.92794647
Aromanian_Central-Macedonia


16.69118031
Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk


21.95220490
Ukrainian_Lviv


25.90310020
Crimean_Tatar


27.63709645
Romania_Jewish


28.81849059
Romania_Dobruja_Tatar


32.15274794
Romania_Roma

</tbody>

Target: Neamt_ind
Distance: 2.5265% / 2.52654648 | ADC: 0.25x
56.2 Romania_Oltenia
24.8 Romania_Moldova_Sud
10.8 Aromanian_North-Macedonia
6.8 Romania_Transilvania_Hungarian
1.4 Crimean_Tatar

-Aromanian
Target: Neamt_ind
Distance: 2.6250% / 2.62501486 | ADC: 0.25x
87.4 Romania_Oltenia
5.8 Romania_Moldova_Sud
5.0 Romania_Transilvania_Hungarian
1.8 Crimean_Tatar

-Oltenia
Target: Neamt_ind
Distance: 3.0018% / 3.00176507 | ADC: 0.25x
96.6 Romania_Transilvania
2.2 Crimean_Tatar
1.2 Romania_Dobrogea


<tbody>
Distance to:
Neamt_ind


3.52926338
Romania_Moldavia_Galati


4.05770871
Romania_Moldavia_Bacau


4.65204256
Romania_Moldavia_Vrancea


4.85994856
Romania_Moldavia_Vaslui


5.17437919
Romania_Moldavia_Iasi


5.26965843
Romania_Moldavia_Neamt


7.11218672
Romania_Moldavia_Botosani


7.73653023
Romania_Moldavia_3/4Romanian_1/4Roma


8.71159572
Romania_Moldavia_Csango


8.77339729
Romania_Moldavia_Suceava


14.95308998
Romania_Moldavia_Ukrainian


27.63709645
Romania_Moldavia_Jewish


</tbody>

Ion Basescul
09-05-2020, 11:08 AM
From Straseni (R. Moldova)

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N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan


23.59
30.86
16.86
8.76
11.85
2.12
2.03
0.81
0.86
2.26
0
0
0

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<tbody>
Distance to:
Straseni_ind


3.76245930
Serb_B&H


3.78727994
Bosniak_Sarajevo


3.80260437
Serb_B&H_Bosnia_proper


3.91292729
Bosniak


3.98370431
Serb_B&H_Krajina


4.13365456
Croat_B&H_West_Bosnia


4.15808850
Romania_Maramures


4.18104054
Croat_B&H_Herzegovina


4.19450831
Croat_Croatia_Dalmatia


4.43793871
Croat_B&H


4.44795459
Moldova_average


4.56337594
Serb_Serbia_West&Central


4.71307755
Moldova_North


4.82050827
Romania_Moldavia_North


4.82509067
Serb


4.84007231
Serb_Serbia_Vojvodina


4.86765857
Serb_Croatia_Kordun&Banija


4.91262659
Moldova_Centre


4.94827243
Hungarian_Csango


4.97492714
Serb_Serbia


4.99811965
Serb_Croatia


5.01454883
Serb_Croatia_Lika


5.03423281
Croat_Croatia_Lika-Senj


5.26452277
Romania_Moldavia_average


5.69590204
Croat_B&H_Bosnia

</tbody>


<tbody>
Distance to:
Straseni_ind


4.71307755
Moldova_North


4.91262659
Moldova_Centre


9.49348724
Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk


9.68775000
Moldova_South


13.89998921
Moldova_South_Gagauz


14.09347367
Moldova_Bulgarian


14.43765563
Moldova_Ukrainian


14.44278713
Ukrainian_Lviv


15.95351372
Ukrainian


21.78094351
Russian_Smolensk


26.68957474
Crimean_Tatar


27.56735751
Romania_Dobruja-Tatar


28.94676202
Russian_Pinega


33.98357103
Moldova_Jewish


34.66827368
Moldova_Roma

</tbody>

Target: Straseni_ind
Distance: 3.1854% / 3.18540554 | ADC: 0.25x
69.6 Moldova_North
18.6 Moldova_Centre
8.2 Moldova_South
3.6 Moldova_Roma


<tbody>
Distance to:
Straseni_ind


3.25768323
Moldova_Straseni


3.52347839
Moldova_Ocnita


4.38405064
Moldova_Balti


4.59516050
Moldova_Eurogenes


4.65182760
Moldova_Calarasi


5.03588125
Moldova_Ialoveni


5.43111407
Moldova_Chisinau


5.88905765
Moldova_Edinet


5.99729106
Moldova_Orhei


6.26064693
Moldova_Soldanesti


6.45141070
Moldova_Glodeni


6.59690079
Moldova_Nisporeni


6.61573125
Moldova_Falesti


6.86526037
Moldova_Cimislia


7.18187301
Moldova_Briceni


7.19570705
Moldova_Transnistria


7.19919440
Moldova_Ungheni


7.22506747
Moldova_Hincesti


7.35735686
Moldova_1/2Moldovan_1/2EastSlavic


7.92656925
Moldova_Causeni


8.79531694
Moldova_Rezina


9.44174242
Moldova_Cahul


10.37766351
Moldova_Floresti


11.13115448
Moldova_StefanVoda


13.58244823
Moldova_Cantemir


</tbody>

Ion Basescul
09-05-2020, 11:29 AM
Second sample from Hincesti (R. Moldova)

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N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan


23.31
29.55
17.84
7.30
16.55
1.29
1.96
0.80
0.24
0.79
0.35
0
0

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The first one was a bit different and this shows why it's important to have at least a couple of samples for each district, in order to understand the average profile.

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N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan


18.71
29.10
18.39
10.79
14.63
4.48
0
0.85
0
2.02
0.74
0.25
0

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Distance to:
Hincesti_ind


2.57641223
Romania_Maramures


2.96454044
Serb_Serbia


2.99668150
Serb_Serbia_Vojvodina


3.14017515
Serb


3.24709101
Serb_Serbia_West&Central


3.40876811
Serb_Croatia_Lika


3.49310750
Serb_B&H_Herzegovina


3.51656082
Bulgarian_Pleven


3.53659441
Serb_Serbia_South&East


3.80445791
Romania_Crisana


3.82776697
Romania_Moldavia_average


3.86150230
Serb_Croatia


3.96634593
Serb_B&H


4.07073703
Serb_Croatia_Kordun&Banija


4.10530145
Moldova_average


4.12035193
Serb_B&H_Krajina


4.16488895
Romania_Moldavia_South


4.35561706
Serb_Croatia_Dalmatia


4.40595052
Bosniak


4.44059681
Romania_Moldavia_North


4.49323937
Bulgarian_Sofia


4.62386202
Moldova_Centre


4.79335999
Romania_Transylvania


4.87989754
Serb_B&H_Bosnia_proper


4.90183639
Bosniak_Sandzak

</tbody>


<tbody>
Distance to:
Hincesti_ind


4.62386202
Moldova_Centre


6.92720001
Moldova_South


7.86728034
Moldova_North


10.69020580
Moldova_South_Gagauz


11.72506290
Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk


11.96853374
Moldova_Bulgarian


17.44825779
Moldova_Ukrainian


18.20553487
Ukrainian_Lviv


19.31222929
Ukrainian


25.09357089
Russian_Smolensk


28.15635630
Crimean_Tatar


29.53947528
Romania_Dobruja-Tatar


30.03505119
Moldova_Jewish


32.32944759
Russian_Pinega


33.72896381
Moldova_Roma

</tbody>

Target: Hincesti_ind
Distance: 3.1049% / 3.10485864 | ADC: 0.25x
65.4 Moldova_South
34.6 Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk

-Ukrainian Ivano Frankivsk
Target: Hincesti_ind
Distance: 4.0009% / 4.00093632 | ADC: 0.25x
57.6 Moldova_South
24.8 Moldova_North
8.8 Moldova_Centre
8.8 Moldova_Ukrainian


<tbody>
Distance to:
Hincesti_ind


4.64711739
Moldova_Eurogenes


4.65528732
Moldova_Causeni


4.87877034
Moldova_Chisinau


4.91470243
Moldova_Nisporeni


5.13255297
Moldova_Ialoveni


5.39092756
Moldova_Balti


5.39486793
Moldova_Ungheni


5.54689102
Moldova_Straseni


5.74049649
Moldova_Calarasi


5.84130122
Moldova_Cimislia


5.87975340
Moldova_Soldanesti


5.96457040
Moldova_Ocnita


7.03042673
Moldova_Cahul


7.11886929
Moldova_Falesti


7.30320478
Moldova_Hincesti


8.36013158
Moldova_StefanVoda


9.07155444
Moldova_Orhei


9.11813577
Moldova_Edinet


9.23851178
Moldova_Briceni


10.38773796
Moldova_Cantemir


10.42263402
Moldova_Glodeni


10.67465222
Moldova_Transnistria


10.76658720
Moldova_Rezina


10.93140888
Moldova_1/2Moldovan_1/2EastSlavic


10.98789789
Moldova_Floresti

</tbody>

Ion Basescul
09-05-2020, 11:36 AM
First sample from Anenii Noi (R. Moldova)

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N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan


22.19
35.55
15.80
5.01
14.63
1.08
2.73
0
1.21
0.49
0.57
0
0.75

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Distance to:
AneniiNoi_ind


5.63331164
Croat_B&H_Herzegovina


6.25745156
Croat_Istria_&_Kvarner


6.26082263
Bosniak_Bosnia_NE&Central


6.31915522
Bosniak_Sarajevo


6.55263306
Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk


6.61027987
Croat_B&H


6.85975218
Croat_Croatia_Lika-Senj


6.91849695
Romania_Maramures


7.03547440
Serb_B&H_Bosnia_proper


7.06009915
Moldova_North


7.09122697
Bosniak


7.10530788
Croat_B&H_Bosnia


7.13539067
Croat_Croatia_Dalmatia


7.46073723
Serb_B&H


7.55008609
Croat_B&H_West_Bosnia


7.94428096
Serb_B&H_Krajina


7.95468415
Moldova_average


8.03873746
Croat_Slavonia


8.07092312
Serb_Serbia_Vojvodina


8.08574054
Romania_Moldavia_North


8.19687135
Croat


8.24591414
Serb_Serbia_West&Central


8.41058856
Serb_Croatia_Lika


8.41106414
Serb


8.42013064
Serb_Serbia

</tbody>


<tbody>
Distance to:
AneniiNoi_ind


6.55263306
Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk


7.06009915
Moldova_North


8.51984742
Moldova_Centre


11.97296120
Moldova_Ukrainian


13.27441901
Ukrainian_Lviv


13.37475233
Moldova_South


13.99645312
Ukrainian


16.73482596
Moldova_South_Gagauz


18.72322355
Moldova_Bulgarian


19.30417053
Russian_Smolensk


26.05857692
Russian_Pinega


29.38248288
Romania_Dobruja-Tatar


29.82411273
Crimean_Tatar


35.79046800
Moldova_Jewish


37.15319502
Moldova_Roma

</tbody>

Target: AneniiNoi_ind
Distance: 3.7530% / 3.75297351 | ADC: 0.25x
82.0 Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk
10.6 Moldova_South_Gagauz
3.8 Moldova_Jewish
3.6 Moldova_Roma

-Ukrainians
Target: AneniiNoi_ind
Distance: 6.0907% / 6.09067109 | ADC: 0.25x
69.0 Moldova_Centre
12.8 Moldova_North
9.8 Russian_Smolensk
8.4 Russian_Pinega




<tbody>
Distance to:
AneniiNoi_ind


3.84764863
Moldova_Falesti


4.61044466
Moldova_Soldanesti


6.51137466
Moldova_Balti


6.87608900
Moldova_Ocnita


6.88684253
Moldova_Eurogenes


6.98263561
Moldova_Ialoveni


7.28567087
Moldova_1/2Moldovan_1/2EastSlavic


7.50862837
Moldova_Edinet


8.16848211
Moldova_Straseni


8.47480973
Moldova_Nisporeni


8.48063087
Moldova_Chisinau


8.50577451
Moldova_Hincesti


8.53001758
Moldova_Floresti


8.83972285
Moldova_Rezina


9.29142077
Moldova_Cimislia


9.29143692
Moldova_Glodeni


9.53371386
Moldova_Transnistria


9.55177470
Moldova_Calarasi


9.86241350
Moldova_Briceni


10.07950396
Moldova_Orhei


10.49649942
Moldova_Ungheni


11.05910485
Moldova_Causeni


11.97296120
Moldova_Ukrainian


13.90538745
Moldova_Cahul


14.52982106
Moldova_StefanVoda


</tbody>

Aspirin
09-05-2020, 11:39 AM
The first one was a bit different and this shows why it's important to have at least a couple of samples for each district, in order to understand the average profile.


Because near Hīncești district exist some Bulgarian villages, wich can influence the results. In the past in that area even existed some German villages.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/ro/e/e4/Bugeac-1930.png

Ion Basescul
09-05-2020, 11:55 AM
Because near Hīncești district exist some Bulgarian villages, wich can influence the results. In the past in that area even existed some German villages.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/ro/e/e4/Bugeac-1930.png

Yes, but even without minorities, there will be varities within the locality.
We have the luxury of having those 10 samples from Caplani in Stefan Voda, a village that is supposedly fully Moldovan/Romanian.
And among them there is diversity, both Southern, Northern and even Western (last sample) compared to others.

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N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan


21.01
25.42
16.62
11.92
18.51
4.11
0.58
0
0
0
0.50
0.51
0.82


18.42
25.95
16.17
15.44
17.84
3.82
0.56
0.56
0
1.25
0
0
0


18.27
19.97
19.01
15.32
19.44
4.68
0.12
1.50
0.68
0.54
0
0
0.48


19.84
23.81
19.67
11.16
19.93
3.16
0
0.00
1.21
0.29
0.52
0
0.40


22.08
23.50
19.95
9.57
19.50
3.24
0
1.74
0.34
0
0.08
0
0


16.91
24.06
20.61
12.07
23.58
0
0.52
0
1.03
0
0.29
0.45
0.50


20.23
23.81
21.69
7.85
19.98
3.35
0
0
2.91
0
0.19
0
0


21.08
28.93
14.78
9.89
19.66
4.48
0.57
0.61
0
0
0
0
0


21.23
24.68
15.16
12.29
20.35
3.67
0
0
2.38
0
0.25
0
0


26.39
24.34
17.44
13.21
12.41
4.18
0
0.31
0.71
0
0.89
0
0.12

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Nurzat
09-05-2020, 12:05 PM
I've got an interesting sample from Vaslui with 4gp from there.

It's preemptive to jump to conclusions, but some of you guys might want to prepare that apology speech for IncelSlayer (Vaslui is just above Galati).

Maybe Nurzat can tell us more about the profile in Vaslui. Are there Romanian villages that assimilated minorities in the past?


Dumasca village at the border with Iași county today was founded by Lipovans around 1740.

some other Lipovans settled in Vaslui town around 1880.

then, the 20% Catholic population of Huși must descend partially from the initial founders of the town, Hussites that then got back to Catholicism, maybe because of the settlement of catholic Csangos later on in the town.

Ion Basescul
09-12-2020, 11:13 PM
Iasi (Romania's Moldavia)

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N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan


23.48
28.95
17.21
10.44
13.88
3.45
0
1.27
1.19
0
0.14
0
0

</tbody>
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Compared to others from Iasi

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N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan


19.78
25.27
16.76
13.97
13.46
3.11
3.80
1.10
0.58
1.21
0.28
0.67
0


28.67
29.30
14.20
10.23
14.22
0
0.12
1.51
0
0.75
0.79
0.21
0


20.77
30.57
15.51
11.77
12.12
3.48
2.53
0
1.45
0.35
1.46
0
0


21.55
33.35
16.78
7.05
17.78
0.86
0
1.07
0.11
0.76
0
0
0.69


25.87
26.84
16.97
10.82
15.72
1.10
0.45
0.17
0.89
0
0.85
0
0.32


23.47
21.46
16.35
9.42
19.46
4.83
0.78
1.14
2.38
0
0.52
0
0.19


27.56
28.87
11.97
7.40
17.56
0
2.72
0
2.26
0.96
0.20
0.42
0.08


24.97
24.41
19.71
10.78
13.32
3.16
0
2.38
0.77
0.50
0
0
0

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<tbody>
Distance to:
Iasi_ind


3.04368198
Serb_B&H_Krajina


3.07037457
Moldova_average


3.10580102
Moldova_Centre


3.34049398
Romania_Moldavia_average


3.36775890
Serb


3.40252847
Serb_B&H


3.40556897
Serb_Serbia_West&Central


3.47692393
Serb_Serbia


3.52408853
Serb_Croatia_Kordun&Banija


3.56687538
Romania_Maramures


3.65328619
Serb_Croatia


3.87902049
Serb_Serbia_Vojvodina


3.88110809
Romania_Moldavia_South


3.91371946
Romania_Moldavia_North


3.96010101
Serb_Croatia_Lika


4.14833702
Bosniak_Sandzak


4.16087731
Serb_B&H_Herzegovina


4.17922242
Bosniak


4.53575793
Serb_Croatia_Dalmatia


4.58553159
Serb_B&H_Bosnia_proper


4.60030434
Serb_Serbia_South&East


4.83633911
Bosniak_Sarajevo


5.01990040
Croat_Croatia_Dalmatia


5.08064956
Romania_Transylvania


5.08222392
Croat_B&H_West_Bosnia


</tbody>


<tbody>
Distance to:
Iasi_ind


3.56687538
Romania_Maramures


3.88110809
Romania_Moldova_Sud


3.92355706
Romania_Moldova_Nord


5.08064956
Romania_Transilvania


5.23117578
Romania_Crisana


5.25379863
Romania_Moldova_Csango


5.89476039
Romania_Oltenia


6.00678783
Romania_Banat


6.26193791
Romania_Transilvania_Hungarian


6.57652793
Romania_Transilvania_Szekely


7.16850752
Romania_Dobrogea


7.58770716
Romania_Muntenia


8.50477513
Bulgarian


11.54888306
Aromanian_North-Macedonia


11.90292401
Aromanian_North-Macedonia-Highlander


12.20059835
Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk


17.08654734
Aromanian_Central-Macedonia


17.31916280
Ukrainian_Lviv


25.80605162
Crimean_Tatar


27.43956450
Romania_Dobruja_Tatar


31.38305912
Romania_Jewish


34.29013998
Romania_Roma

</tbody>

Target: Iasi_ind
Distance: 2.1777% / 2.17769198 | ADC: 0.25x
42.4 Romania_Maramures
25.4 Romania_Moldova_Sud
17.0 Aromanian_North-Macedonia
12.2 Ukrainian_Lviv
3.0 Crimean_Tatar

-Aromanian, Ukrainian
Target: Iasi_ind
Distance: 2.7853% / 2.78529637 | ADC: 0.25x
57.8 Romania_Maramures
32.6 Romania_Moldova_Sud
5.6 Romania_Transilvania_Hungarian
4.0 Crimean_Tatar


<tbody>
Distance to:
Iasi_ind


2.89858586
Romania_Moldavia_Iasi


3.66167994
Romania_Moldavia_Bacau


3.66360478
Romania_Moldavia_Neamt


3.93339548
Romania_Moldavia_Vaslui


4.64663319
Romania_Moldavia_Botosani


5.26114056
Romania_Moldavia_Suceava


5.83204938
Romania_Moldavia_Csango


5.99908326
Romania_Moldavia_Galati


6.63965361
Romania_Moldavia_Vrancea


8.92038116
Romania_Moldavia_3/4Romanian_1/4Roma


11.05636468
Romania_Moldavia_Ukrainian


31.38305912
Romania_Moldavia_Jewish


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Ion Basescul
09-12-2020, 11:18 PM
Iasi (Romania's Moldavia)

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West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan


22.25
28.36
18.26
9.25
15.17
2.56
0.39
2.70
0
0.92
0.09
0
0

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Compared to others from Iasi

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Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan


19.78
25.27
16.76
13.97
13.46
3.11
3.80
1.10
0.58
1.21
0.28
0.67
0


28.67
29.30
14.20
10.23
14.22
0
0.12
1.51
0
0.75
0.79
0.21
0


20.77
30.57
15.51
11.77
12.12
3.48
2.53
0
1.45
0.35
1.46
0
0


21.55
33.35
16.78
7.05
17.78
0.86
0
1.07
0.11
0.76
0
0
0.69


25.87
26.84
16.97
10.82
15.72
1.10
0.45
0.17
0.89
0
0.85
0
0.32


23.47
21.46
16.35
9.42
19.46
4.83
0.78
1.14
2.38
0
0.52
0
0.19


27.56
28.87
11.97
7.40
17.56
0
2.72
0
2.26
0.96
0.20
0.42
0.08


24.97
24.41
19.71
10.78
13.32
3.16
0
2.38
0.77
0.50
0
0
0


23.48
28.95
17.21
10.44
13.88
3.45
0
1.27
1.19
0
0.14
0
0

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Distance to:
Iasi_ind


3.76608550
Romania_Moldova_Sud


3.92866390
Romania_Maramures


4.48066959
Romania_Transilvania


4.99594836
Romania_Banat


5.15792594
Romania_Crisana


5.20458452
Romania_Moldova_Nord


5.20632308
Romania_Oltenia


6.16807101
Romania_Dobrogea


6.58838372
Romania_Moldova_Csango


6.87068410
Romania_Muntenia


7.48939250
Bulgarian


8.01638469
Romania_Transilvania_Hungarian


8.10913255
Romania_Transilvania_Szekely


10.66252784
Aromanian_North-Macedonia


10.81590496
Aromanian_North-Macedonia-Highlander


13.32116361
Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk


15.79298895
Aromanian_Central-Macedonia


18.94239161
Ukrainian_Lviv


26.29526764
Crimean_Tatar


28.13845234
Romania_Dobruja_Tatar


30.05790745
Romania_Jewish


33.59412597
Romania_Roma

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Target: Iasi_ind
Distance: 2.7869% / 2.78686732 | ADC: 0.25x
72.8 Romania_Maramures
12.6 Aromanian_North-Macedonia
12.6 Romania_Banat
2.0 Crimean_Tatar

-Aromanian
Target: Iasi_ind
Distance: 2.9516% / 2.95160413 | ADC: 0.25x
62.2 Romania_Maramures
32.0 Romania_Banat
4.4 Romania_Oltenia
1.4 Crimean_Tatar


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Distance to:
Iasi_ind


3.38719648
Romania_Moldavia_Iasi


3.40471732
Romania_Moldavia_Bacau


4.71440346
Romania_Moldavia_Neamt


4.83263903
Romania_Moldavia_Galati


5.44209518
Romania_Moldavia_Vaslui


5.85480999
Romania_Moldavia_Botosani


5.97397690
Romania_Moldavia_Vrancea


6.76029585
Romania_Moldavia_Suceava


7.21512301
Romania_Moldavia_Csango


7.90808447
Romania_Moldavia_3/4Romanian_1/4Roma


12.17228820
Romania_Moldavia_Ukrainian


30.05790745
Romania_Moldavia_Jewish

</tbody>

Ion Basescul
09-12-2020, 11:27 PM
Suceava (Romania's Moldavia)

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Baltic
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West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan


24.37
39.23
10.88
6.70
13.46
1.45
0
0
2.62
0.51
0.79
0
0

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N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan


28.74
31.61
13.1
9.18
12.47
0.66
0.78
0
0.86
0.19
0.79
1.61
0


26.88
29.15
13.73
8.13
14.66
2.27
2.06
0
2.15
0.88
0.10
0
0


26.90
27.46
17.28
9.68
14.68
0
0
0
2.21
1.16
0.35
0
0.29


30.06
26.76
16.04
8.87
14.56
1.54
0
1.00
0.58
0
0.60
0
0


25.53
34.27
13.61
7.30
10.70
2.19
1.74
0
2.96
1.22
0.47
0
0


23.46
34.89
15.09
7.43
11.82
3.66
0
0
0.39
2.00
0.65
0.60
0


24.18
33.34
12.99
8.44
13.91
1.23
1.31
1.19
1.84
0.89
0.67
0
0


24.99
32.68
13.35
7.67
16.04
1.42
0.95
0
0.78
1.26
0.87
0
0


29.03
34.47
13.15
6.10
12.78
1.79
0.78
1.02
0.87
0
0
0
0


21.99
33.52
14.77
11.31
11.99
2.49
0.5
1.04
2.23
0
0.16
0
0


23.64
28.74
16.52
6.63
20.14
1.10
0
1.05
0.10
0.66
1.42
0
0


23.25
30.39
14.82
11.44
15.45
0
0.23
0.28
2.95
0
0
1.16
0

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Distance to:
Suceava_ind


4.81013513
Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk


6.26799011
Bosniak_Bosnia_NE&Central


7.62152872
Croat_Slavonia


8.03573270
Moldova_North


8.43115057
Croat_Istria_&_Kvarner


8.46226920
Croat_B&H_Herzegovina


8.81170245
Croat


8.86982525
Croat_Croatia_Lika-Senj


8.96199755
Croat_B&H


8.96454126
Croat_Croatia


9.14384492
Hungarian_Alfold


9.23134876
Croat_B&H_Bosnia


9.27837285
Bosniak_Sarajevo


9.28179713
Slovak


9.29705330
Hungarian_Northern


9.33970021
Ukrainian_Lviv


9.61118099
Croat_B&H_West_Bosnia


9.82931330
Croat_Croatia_Dalmatia


9.90574076
Ukrainian


10.05355161
Serb_B&H_Bosnia_proper


10.22060174
Bosniak


10.27641474
South_Polish


10.33324247
Hungarian


10.46787944
Slovenian


10.58223039
Croat_Croatia_Zagorje


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<tbody>
Distance to:
Suceava_ind


4.81013513
Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk


9.33970021
Ukrainian_Lviv


10.94888579
Romania_Moldova_Nord


11.17307478
Romania_Moldova_Csango


11.35462901
Romania_Maramures


12.01271686
Romania_Transilvania_Hungarian


12.71429828
Romania_Transilvania_Szekely


13.51070687
Romania_Crisana


14.68920011
Romania_Moldova_Sud


15.83348982
Romania_Transilvania


16.54920844
Romania_Banat


17.06476487
Romania_Oltenia


17.88935717
Romania_Muntenia


17.90724155
Romania_Dobrogea


19.06379291
Bulgarian


22.54030168
Aromanian_North-Macedonia-Highlander


23.49745731
Aromanian_North-Macedonia


28.29693800
Aromanian_Central-Macedonia


29.24470721
Romania_Dobruja_Tatar


30.42067553
Crimean_Tatar


40.54237536
Romania_Jewish


41.54043452
Romania_Roma

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:rolleyes:
Target: Suceava_ind
Distance: 4.5031% / 4.50306910 | ADC: 0.25x
95.2 Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk
4.0 Romania_Dobruja_Tatar
0.8 Romania_Jewish


<tbody>
Distance to:
Suceava_ind


6.96462490
Romania_Moldavia_Ukrainian


8.34839506
Romania_Moldavia_Suceava


9.33123786
Romania_Moldavia_Botosani


11.45216137
Romania_Moldavia_Csango


13.13935310
Romania_Moldavia_Vaslui


13.54124440
Romania_Moldavia_Iasi


13.95631040
Romania_Moldavia_Neamt


14.42551559
Romania_Moldavia_Bacau


16.92515288
Romania_Moldavia_Galati


17.78665230
Romania_Moldavia_3/4Romanian_1/4Roma


18.37329040
Romania_Moldavia_Vrancea


40.54237536
Romania_Moldavia_Jewish

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Leto
09-12-2020, 11:31 PM
Suceava (Romania's Moldavia)

Is she not half Lipovan?

Ion Basescul
09-13-2020, 12:05 AM
Is she not half Lipovan?

Whom are you referring to? I haven't posted this one before and it's not a lady. Verified ethnic Romanian in any case

Ion Basescul
09-13-2020, 12:09 AM
Iasi

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Baltic
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West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan


25.57
32.02
16.18
8.64
11.89
1.89
0.18
1.76
0
0.61
0
0.52
0.75

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Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan


19.78
25.27
16.76
13.97
13.46
3.11
3.80
1.10
0.58
1.21
0.28
0.67
0


28.67
29.30
14.20
10.23
14.22
0
0.12
1.51
0
0.75
0.79
0.21
0


20.77
30.57
15.51
11.77
12.12
3.48
2.53
0
1.45
0.35
1.46
0
0


21.55
33.35
16.78
7.05
17.78
0.86
0
1.07
0.11
0.76
0
0
0.69


25.87
26.84
16.97
10.82
15.72
1.10
0.45
0.17
0.89
0
0.85
0
0.32


23.47
21.46
16.35
9.42
19.46
4.83
0.78
1.14
2.38
0
0.52
0
0.19


27.56
28.87
11.97
7.40
17.56
0
2.72
0
2.26
0.96
0.20
0.42
0.08


24.97
24.41
19.71
10.78
13.32
3.16
0
2.38
0.77
0.50
0
0
0


23.48
28.95
17.21
10.44
13.88
3.45
0
1.27
1.19
0
0.14
0
0


22.25
28.36
18.26
9.25
15.17
2.56
0.39
2.70
0
0.92
0.09
0
0

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Distance to:
Iasi_ind


2.28901726
Croat_B&H_West_Bosnia


2.70732340
Croat_B&H


2.72690301
Croat_Croatia_Dalmatia


2.75664651
Serb_B&H_Bosnia_proper


2.89665324
Croat_Croatia_Lika-Senj


2.91073874
Moldova_North


3.15057138
Bosniak


3.25987730
Croat_B&H_Herzegovina


3.30337040
Bosniak_Sarajevo


3.60227706
Serb_B&H


3.67547276
Croat_Istria_&_Kvarner


3.76212706
Croat_B&H_Bosnia


3.92187455
Croat


4.23392253
Croat_Slavonia


4.25915485
Croat_Croatia


4.27179119
Serb_B&H_Krajina


4.28405182
Hungarian_Csango


4.47319796
Bosniak_Bosnia_NE&Central


4.53045252
Romania_Maramures


4.79257759
Serb_Serbia_Vojvodina


4.83269076
Serb_Serbia_West&Central


4.83294941
Serb_Croatia_Lika


4.86468910
Serb_Croatia_Kordun&Banija


4.86569625
Romania_Moldavia_North


4.91512970
Serb_Croatia

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Distance to:
Iasi_ind


4.53045252
Romania_Maramures


4.81377583
Romania_Transilvania_Hungarian


4.87918026
Romania_Moldova_Csango


4.91071278
Romania_Moldova_Nord


5.77732566
Romania_Transilvania_Szekely


6.56939875
Romania_Crisana


7.47713849
Romania_Moldova_Sud


7.98984355
Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk


8.70615874
Romania_Transilvania


9.76972876
Romania_Oltenia


10.26339612
Romania_Banat


11.52377976
Romania_Dobrogea


11.74948935
Romania_Muntenia


12.71965408
Bulgarian


13.02211964
Ukrainian_Lviv


16.07102050
Aromanian_North-Macedonia


16.26637636
Aromanian_North-Macedonia-Highlander


21.43261767
Aromanian_Central-Macedonia


28.13869045
Crimean_Tatar


28.81975885
Romania_Dobruja_Tatar


35.63064411
Romania_Jewish


37.22986033
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Target: Iasi_ind
Distance: 2.3798% / 2.37982728 | ADC: 0.25x
57.8 Romania_Maramures
24.8 Romania_Transilvania_Hungarian
17.4 Ukrainian_Lviv

-Hungarian
Target: Iasi_ind
Distance: 2.4775% / 2.47746439 | ADC: 0.25x
54.2 Romania_Maramures
24.0 Ukrainian_Lviv
15.2 Romania_Crisana
6.6 Romania_Moldova_Sud


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Distance to:
Iasi_ind


3.73112584
Romania_Moldavia_Suceava


4.30567068
Romania_Moldavia_Csango


4.48205310
Romania_Moldavia_Botosani


5.60014286
Romania_Moldavia_Iasi


6.01956809
Romania_Moldavia_Vaslui


7.26765437
Romania_Moldavia_Ukrainian


7.27112096
Romania_Moldavia_Neamt


7.46382610
Romania_Moldavia_Bacau


9.73724807
Romania_Moldavia_Galati


10.64172918
Romania_Moldavia_Vrancea


11.76834738
Romania_Moldavia_3/4Romanian_1/4Roma


35.63064411
Romania_Moldavia_Jewish

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Leto
09-13-2020, 12:20 AM
Whom are you referring to? I haven't posted this one before and it's not a lady. Verified ethnic Romanian in any case
The 39 percent Baltic person.

Ion Basescul
09-13-2020, 12:47 AM
The 39 percent Baltic person.

And how did you determine that this is a lady and half Lipovan at that? Lipovans mostly live in Tulcea county and certainly not in Suceava. In the past some stopped along the Prut river according to their Wiki page.
But Suceava is 200km away in the mountains.
Ukrainian ancestry is more likely in this case, but we are talking about distant one that got assimilated into the local profile of the community, since I know that all the 4gp for him are ethnic Romanians from Vatra Dornei.

Leto
09-13-2020, 08:07 AM
And how did you determine that this is a lady and half Lipovan at that? Lipovans mostly live in Tulcea county and certainly not in Suceava. In the past some stopped along the Prut river according to their Wiki page.
But Suceava is 200km away in the mountains.
Ukrainian ancestry is more likely in this case, but we are talking about distant one that got assimilated into the local profile of the community, since I know that all the 4gp for him are ethnic Romanians from Vatra Dornei.
I wasn't clear. I asked if that person was half Lipovan. And I was thinking maybe that girl from Reddit had finally shared her Gedmatch with you.

WeirdLookingFellow
09-13-2020, 08:32 AM
And how did you determine that this is a lady and half Lipovan at that? Lipovans mostly live in Tulcea county and certainly not in Suceava. In the past some stopped along the Prut river according to their Wiki page.
But Suceava is 200km away in the mountains.
Ukrainian ancestry is more likely in this case, but we are talking about distant one that got assimilated into the local profile of the community, since I know that all the 4gp for him are ethnic Romanians from Vatra Dornei.

Yes they do live in Suceava, I literally know a Lipovan girl from near Radauti.

They have communities near Radauti, there's also a Lipoveni village :

https://ro.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lipoveni,_Suceava

https://ro.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clim%C4%83u%C8%9Bi,_Suceava

http://www.cjsuceava.ro/index.php/ro/etnii-din-judetul-suceava/comunitatea-rusilor-lipoveni-din-romania-filiala-suceava

Aspirin
09-13-2020, 09:11 AM
Is she not half Lipovan?

Lipovans are tiny minority, this person just have more old Rusyn ancestry.

Leto
09-13-2020, 09:15 AM
Lipovans are tiny minority, this person just have more old Rusyn ancestry.
30,000 according to Wikipedia. For obvious reasons I'm very interested in seeing at least a couple of them.

Yes, the Eternal XoXoL laughs in the background everytime a Romanian with 35-39% Baltic appears :swl

Ion Basescul
09-13-2020, 09:18 AM
I wasn't clear. I asked if that person was half Lipovan. And I was thinking maybe that girl from Reddit had finally shared her Gedmatch with you.Ah, not that I know of, at least not at grandparents level. I wouldn't be surprised if their ancestors are partially assimilated Ukrainians for example who lost their former identity.

That girl from Reddit is likely not from Moldavia. Lipovans are more of a Danube delta phenomenon.

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Ion Basescul
09-13-2020, 09:22 AM
Yes they do live in Suceava, I literally know a Lipovan girl from near Radauti.

They have communities near Radauti, there's also a Lipoveni village :

https://ro.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lipoveni,_Suceava

https://ro.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clim%C4%83u%C8%9Bi,_Suceava

http://www.cjsuceava.ro/index.php/ro/etnii-din-judetul-suceava/comunitatea-rusilor-lipoveni-din-romania-filiala-suceavaWell, yes, there will be tiny communities, just like there is one random one in Soroca if I'm not mistaken, that I found the other day, but the overwhelming majority live closer to the delta. So in this case, assimilated Ukrainians are more probable.

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Aspirin
09-13-2020, 09:25 AM
30,000 according to Wikipedia. For obvious reasons I'm very interested in seeing at least a couple of them.

Yes, the Eternal XoXoL laughs in the background everytime a Romanian with 35-39% Baltic appears :swl

Most of them live in Danube delta region (Tulcea county), in Suceava their community is very tiny, plus they hardly mix.

WeirdLookingFellow
09-13-2020, 09:28 AM
Most of them live in Danube delta region (Tulcea county), in Suceava their community is very tiny, plus they hardly mix.

The ones in Tulcea did not mix a lot (though bear in mind Lipovans stretched till south of Constanta, the fewer they were the more they mixed), but the ones in North-Central Moldova definitely did. There are definitely still pure Russian Lipovans still in North-Central parts, I'm not saying they disappeared.

Aspirin
09-13-2020, 09:34 AM
...

Why in your ancestry is written Ukrainian?

WeirdLookingFellow
09-13-2020, 09:41 AM
Why in your ancestry is written Ukrainian?

Cause that's what I know that I have from my mom's side, should probably add Tatar and replace Ukr with German though, maybe after I test her and my grandparents.

Ion Basescul
09-13-2020, 09:45 AM
Cause that's what I know that I have from my mom's side, should probably add Tatar and replace Ukr with German though, maybe after I test her and my grandparents.I thought that you might have German ancestry, but right now it looks less likely, since I found more verified results in non-Transylvanian regions who have more Atlantic than Baltic. The fellow user with 4gp from Galati, alexmegas, has like 30% Atlantic and 20% Baltic. It's probably Eurogenes being Eurogenes.

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WeirdLookingFellow
09-13-2020, 09:46 AM
I thought that you might have German ancestry, but right now it looks less likely, since I found more verified results in non-Transylvanian regions who have more Atlantic than Baltic. The fellow user with 4gp from Galati, alexmegas, has like 30% Atlantic and 20% Baltic. It's probably Eurogenes being Eurogenes.

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Testing the parents could probably show whether it's actual heightened NA or Eurogenes.

Ion Basescul
09-13-2020, 09:56 AM
Testing the parents could probably show whether it's actual heightened NA or Eurogenes.Yep, it should add some clarity.
But I think your best bet to understand that are your DNA relatives (both on MyHeritage and GEDmatch). What's the sum of shared segments that you have in common with people of Germanic and Ukrainian ancestry?

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Ion Basescul
09-13-2020, 12:32 PM
I thought to have a run only against academic samples (Stefan Voda and Balti) + old Eurogenes with all of my kits.

That includes:
1) my merged 23andme+LivingDNA kit
2) my imputed kit on DNA LAND, which I don't use because it's identical
3) my family's imputed kits on DNA LAND that I always use due to making sense in the context of my results; my results were generated with 2.5x more SNPs, so they are the most accurate of the bunch and the benchmark against which to orientate
4) my family's original kits, which I don't usually use, because of what was mentioned in 3

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Name
N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan


Ion_Basescul_23andme+LivingDNA
25.42
29.37
15.04
9.99
12.91
1.53
0.69
1.84
2.84
0
0.37
0
0


Ion Basescul_23andme+LivingDNA_DNALAND-imputed
25.25
29.82
14.67
10.28
12.78
1.20
0.46
2.37
2.52
0
0.27
0.05
0.32


Ion_Basescul_brother_MyHeritage_DNALAND-imputed
22.66
31.41
14.52
12.99
11.97
1.64
1.35
0.93
2.18
0
0.22
0.13
0


Ion_Basescul_brother_MyHeritage_original
20.94
32.81
16.13
11.69
12.21
0.97
2.06
1.03
1.08
0.54
0.54
0
0


Ion_Basescul_mom_MyHeritage_DNALAND-imputed
21.57
34.87
15.27
11.01
11.72
1.02
0.74
2.03
1.44
0.21
0.13
0
0


Ion_Basescul_mom_MyHeritage_original
19.44
37.30
15.60
10.04
13.19
0.47
0.95
1.49
0.28
0.41
0.82
0
0


Ion_Basescul_dad_MyHeritage_DNALAND-imputed
25.29
31.05
13.37
12.25
11.53
0.22
1.90
0
2.14
0.95
0.07
0.92
0.30


Ion_Basescul_dad_MyHeritage_original
24.14
32.44
14.55
11.75
12.15
0
1.62
0
1.54
0.96
0
0.33
0.51

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Top 10


<tbody>
Distance to:
Ion_Basescul_23andme+LivingDNA


3.45421482
Moldova_34_Balti


3.70537448
Moldova_35_Balti


3.81998691
Moldova_91_Eurogenes


3.82870735
Moldova_41_Balti


3.95075942
Moldova_90_Eurogenes


4.03814314
Moldova_55_Balti


4.42827280
Moldova_38_Balti


4.56146906
Moldova_36_Balti


4.60545329
Moldova_44_Balti


5.08034448
Moldova_53_Balti

</tbody>


<tbody>
Distance to:
IonBasescul_23andme+LivingDNA_DNALand-imputed


3.75374480
Moldova_91_Eurogenes


3.78959101
Moldova_90_Eurogenes


3.81152201
Moldova_35_Balti


3.97234188
Moldova_34_Balti


4.37384270
Moldova_38_Balti


4.43185063
Moldova_41_Balti


4.45029213
Moldova_55_Balti


4.61691455
Moldova_36_Balti


4.99824969
Moldova_15_Eurogenes


5.13088686
Moldova_32_Balti

</tbody>


<tbody>
Distance to:
Ion_Basescul_brother_MyHeritage_DNALAND-imputed


3.78056874
Moldova_91_Eurogenes


3.85215524
Moldova_90_Eurogenes


5.86798091
Moldova_41_Balti


6.00815279
Moldova_52_Balti


6.07051892
Moldova_35_Balti


6.20557814
Moldova_15_Eurogenes


6.43480380
Moldova_40_Balti


6.48989985
Moldova_36_Balti


6.58144361
Moldova_44_Balti


6.70091785
Moldova_33_Balti

</tbody>


<tbody>
Distance to:
Ion_Basescul_brother_MyHeritage_original


3.99726156
Moldova_90_Eurogenes


4.09798731
Moldova_91_Eurogenes


5.53502484
Moldova_40_Balti


5.78602627
Moldova_33_Balti


5.81061959
Moldova_45_Balti


6.01611170
Moldova_31_Balti


6.42305223
Moldova_36_Balti


6.47753039
Moldova_15_Eurogenes


6.52288280
Moldova_47_Balti


6.87893887
Moldova_mixed_12_Eurogenes_1/2Moldovan_1/2Ukrainian

</tbody>


<tbody>
Distance to:
Ion_Basescul_mom_MyHeritage_DNALAND-imputed


3.98743025
Moldova_40_Balti


4.50377619
Moldova_90_Eurogenes


4.69851040
Moldova_45_Balti


4.89379199
Moldova_91_Eurogenes


5.25722360
Moldova_66_Chisinau


5.46116288
Moldova_31_Balti


5.54819791
Moldova_15_Eurogenes


5.85076918
Moldova_mixed_12_Eurogenes_1/2Moldovan_1/2Ukrainian


6.25704403
Moldova_33_Balti


6.60913005
Moldova_51_Balti

</tbody>


<tbody>
Distance to:
Ion_Basescul_mom_MyHeritage_original


4.88528402
Moldova_40_Balti


5.02362419
Moldova_45_Balti


6.69257798
Moldova_66_Chisinau


6.89836212
Moldova_33_Balti


7.21009015
Moldova_90_Eurogenes


7.29758864
Moldova_48_Balti


7.54249959
Moldova_31_Balti


7.57860145
Moldova_91_Eurogenes


7.60349262
Moldova_56_Balti


8.02385194
Moldova_51_Balti

</tbody>


<tbody>
Distance to:
Ion_Basescul_dad_MyHeritage_DNALAND-imputed


4.45938337
Moldova_35_Balti


4.48095972
Moldova_91_Eurogenes


4.56720921
Moldova_90_Eurogenes


4.74514489
Moldova_52_Balti


5.52004529
Moldova_34_Balti


5.66210208
Moldova_32_Balti


5.69595470
Moldova_15_Eurogenes


5.74258653
Moldova_41_Balti


5.78949911
Moldova_55_Balti


6.05784615
Moldova_37_Balti

</tbody>


<tbody>
Distance to:
Ion_Basescul_dad_MyHeritage_original


3.29903016
Moldova_90_Eurogenes


3.33646520
Moldova_91_Eurogenes


4.78240525
Moldova_40_Balti


4.86875754
Moldova_52_Balti


4.95619814
Moldova_15_Eurogenes


5.07971456
Moldova_35_Balti


5.13551361
Moldova_36_Balti


5.25695729
Moldova_32_Balti


5.55846202
Moldova_37_Balti


5.82835311
Moldova_38_Balti

</tbody>

Ion Basescul
09-13-2020, 12:43 PM
I thought to have a run only against academic samples (Stefan Voda and Balti) + old Eurogenes with all of my kits.


For curiosity's sake, users from Romania's Moldavia run against the same samples


<tbody>
Distance to:
WeirdLookingFellow


7.92989281
Moldova_55_Balti


7.93121680
Moldova_38_Balti


8.17335916
Moldova_69_Balti


8.28926414
Moldova_54_Balti


8.32904556
Moldova_36_Balti


8.44169414
Moldova_102_StefanVoda


8.49914113
Moldova_44_Balti


8.57614132
Moldova_34_Balti


9.24467414
Moldova_41_Balti


9.44543276
Moldova_49_Balti

</tbody>


<tbody>
Distance to:
andre


3.45826546
Moldova_105_StefanVoda


5.07223816
Moldova_30_Balti


5.22029693
Moldova_33_Balti


5.32152234
Moldova_39_Balti


5.45945052
Moldova_56_Balti


5.74927822
Moldova_89_Eurogenes


6.21766033
Moldova_92_Eurogenes


6.36461311
Moldova_46_Balti


6.55856692
Moldova_36_Balti


6.66236445
Moldova_54_Balti

</tbody>


<tbody>
Distance to:
alexmegas777


7.03090321
Moldova_107_StefanVoda


9.45977801
Moldova_41_Balti


10.23799785
Moldova_34_Balti


10.40730513
Moldova_44_Balti


10.46230376
Moldova_102_StefanVoda


10.59796679
Moldova_50_Balti


11.19010277
Moldova_55_Balti


11.81711894
Moldova_53_Balti


11.86569003
Moldova_38_Balti


12.18587707
Moldova_98_StefanVoda

</tbody>

Ion Basescul
09-13-2020, 01:04 PM
I thought to have a run only against academic samples (Stefan Voda and Balti) + old Eurogenes with all of my kits.



Forgot this former Apricity dude from R. Moldova


<tbody>
Distance to:
Zmey_Gorynych


3.50548142
Moldova_90_Eurogenes


4.06248692
Moldova_91_Eurogenes


4.28879937
Moldova_33_Balti


4.40454311
Moldova_51_Balti


5.00407834
Moldova_40_Balti


5.33406974
Moldova_15_Eurogenes


5.76415649
Moldova_56_Balti


6.00575557
Moldova_36_Balti


6.08956484
Moldova_46_Balti


6.15838453
Moldova_37_Balti


</tbody>

Ion Basescul
09-13-2020, 08:44 PM
Suceava (Romania's Moldavia)

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N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan


24.60
32.75
14.70
8.38
10.93
2.70
2.02
0
1.75
1.72
0.25
0.20
0

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Compared to others from Suceava

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N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan


28.74
31.61
13.10
9.18
12.47
0.66
0.78
0
0.86
0.19
0.79
1.61
0


26.88
29.15
13.73
8.13
14.66
2.27
2.06
0
2.15
0.88
0.10
0
0


26.90
27.46
17.28
9.68
14.68
0
0
0
2.21
1.16
0.35
0
0.29


30.06
26.76
16.04
8.87
14.56
1.54
0
1.00
0.58
0
0.60
0
0


25.53
34.27
13.61
7.30
10.70
2.19
1.74
0
2.96
1.22
0.47
0
0


23.46
34.89
15.09
7.43
11.82
3.66
0
0
0.39
2.00
0.65
0.60
0


24.18
33.34
12.99
8.44
13.91
1.23
1.31
1.19
1.84
0.89
0.67
0
0


24.99
32.68
13.35
7.67
16.04
1.42
0.95
0
0.78
1.26
0.87
0
0


29.03
34.47
13.15
6.10
12.78
1.79
0.78
1.02
0.87
0
0
0
0


21.99
33.52
14.77
11.31
11.99
2.49
0.5
1.04
2.23
0
0.16
0
0


23.64
28.74
16.52
6.63
20.14
1.10
0
1.05
0.10
0.66
1.42
0
0


23.25
30.39
14.82
11.44
15.45
0
0.23
0.28
2.95
0
0
1.16
0


24.37
39.23
10.88
6.70
13.46
1.45
0
0
2.62
0.51
0.79
0
0

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<tbody>
Distance to:
Suceava_ind


2.89677407
Moldova_North


3.74192464
Bosniak_Bosnia_NE&Central


3.98937873
Bosniak_Sarajevo


4.01014962
Croat_B&H_West_Bosnia


4.10800438
Croat_B&H_Herzegovina


4.12122555
Croat_B&H


4.33804103
Serb_B&H_Bosnia_proper


4.34219990
Croat_Croatia_Lika-Senj


4.43496336
Croat_Croatia_Dalmatia


4.44353463
Croat_Slavonia


4.71491251
Bosniak


4.73748879
Croat


4.99774949
Croat_Croatia


5.09702855
Croat_B&H_Bosnia


5.12546583
Hungarian_Csango


5.14077815
Croat_Istria_&_Kvarner


5.21897500
Serb_B&H


5.48499772
Hungarian_Alfold


5.75158239
Romania_Moldavia_North


5.87105612
Serb_B&H_Krajina


5.89062815
Moldova_average


5.95068904
Romania_Maramures


6.02900489
Hungarian_Transylvania


6.46470417
Serb_Serbia_West&Central


6.49590640
Hungarian_Szekely


</tbody>


<tbody>
Distance to:
Suceava_ind


5.27495024
Romania_Moldova_Csango


5.46173395
Romania_Transilvania_Hungarian


5.79201174
Romania_Moldova_Nord


5.95068904
Romania_Maramures


6.70559531
Romania_Transilvania_Szekely


7.02346780
Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk


8.27955917
Romania_Crisana


8.84380574
Romania_Moldova_Sud


10.19112849
Romania_Transilvania


11.33472982
Romania_Oltenia


11.39949999
Romania_Banat


11.58661728
Ukrainian_Lviv


12.71882070
Romania_Dobrogea


12.75994514
Romania_Muntenia


14.08775710
Bulgarian


17.43945813
Aromanian_North-Macedonia-Highlander


17.52515906
Aromanian_North-Macedonia


22.88058566
Aromanian_Central-Macedonia


27.08120012
Crimean_Tatar


27.29032796
Romania_Dobruja_Tatar


36.20190050
Romania_Roma


36.58874554
Romania_Jewish


</tbody>

Target: Suceava_ind
Distance: 2.0203% / 2.02030920 | ADC: 0.25x
29.6 Ukrainian_Lviv
29.2 Romania_Maramures
14.4 Romania_Transilvania_Hungarian
11.8 Romania_Moldova_Csango
11.0 Romania_Moldova_Nord
2.4 Romania_Roma
1.6 Romania_Dobruja_Tatar

-Hungarians
Target: Suceava_ind
Distance: 2.1755% / 2.17546184 | ADC: 0.25x
35.6 Romania_Moldova_Nord
32.2 Ukrainian_Lviv
28.2 Romania_Maramures
2.4 Romania_Roma
1.6 Romania_Dobruja_Tatar


<tbody>
Distance to:
Suceava_ind


3.73120624
Romania_Moldavia_Suceava


5.08923373
Romania_Moldavia_Botosani


5.14378265
Romania_Moldavia_Csango


6.77829625
Romania_Moldavia_Ukrainian


6.93581286
Romania_Moldavia_Iasi


7.32387193
Romania_Moldavia_Vaslui


8.35690732
Romania_Moldavia_Neamt


8.67389186
Romania_Moldavia_Bacau


11.20389664
Romania_Moldavia_Galati


11.77908740
Romania_Moldavia_Vrancea


11.89655833
Romania_Moldavia_3/4Romanian_1/4Roma


36.58874554
Romania_Moldavia_Jewish


</tbody>

Ion Basescul
09-13-2020, 08:49 PM
Vrancea (Romania's Moldavia)

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N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan


20.65
26.70
17.19
10.49
19.25
2.39
0.44
0.37
0.84
1.01
0.08
0.59
0

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Compared to others from Vrancea

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N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan


22.67
23.88
15.52
12.44
17.04
3.22
1.84
1.26
1.59
0.16
0.39
0
0


23.92
23.07
20.63
9.31
15.68
1.32
2.74
1.52
0.53
1.01
0
0.15
0.13

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<tbody>
Distance to:
Vrancea_ind


1.67874953
Romania_Banat


2.56877403
Bulgarian_Sofia


2.60484165
Romania_Dobruja


2.70360870
Moldova_South


3.08481766
Romanian_Wallachia


3.10473831
Romania_Muntenia


3.24847657
Bulgarian_Stara-Zagora


3.38609846
Macedonian


3.53877097
Bulgarian


3.58087978
Serb_Serbia_South&East


4.08855720
Romania_Transylvania


4.10925784
Bosniak_Sandzak


4.14937345
Romanian_Oltenia


4.41901573
Turk_N-Macedonia


4.45244876
Romania_Moldavia_South


4.51720046
Pomak_Nevrokopi


4.52539501
Bulgarian_Gabrovo


4.57257039
Serb_B&H_Herzegovina


4.58396117
Pomak_Plovdiv


4.65112890
Macedonian_Northwest


4.67889944
Montenegrin


4.75371434
Bulgarian_Pleven


4.82151428
Bulgarian_Pazardzhik


5.05696549
Gagauz


5.51361950
Macedonian_North

</tbody>


<tbody>
Distance to:
Vrancea_ind


1.67874953
Romania_Banat


2.60484165
Romania_Dobrogea


3.10473831
Romania_Muntenia


3.53877097
Bulgarian


4.08855720
Romania_Transilvania


4.14937345
Romania_Oltenia


4.45244876
Romania_Moldova_Sud


6.93396712
Romania_Maramures


6.99964999
Aromanian_North-Macedonia-Highlander


7.00991441
Romania_Crisana


7.02264907
Romania_Moldova_Nord


8.29470916
Aromanian_North-Macedonia


9.12490548
Romania_Moldova_Csango


10.84442036
Romania_Transilvania_Szekely


11.18067251
Romania_Transilvania_Hungarian


12.58097770
Aromanian_Central-Macedonia


16.51018171
Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk


22.58755188
Ukrainian_Lviv


25.76684886
Romania_Jewish


26.14242911
Crimean_Tatar


28.82519037
Romania_Dobruja_Tatar


31.52429856
Romania_Roma


</tbody>

Target: Vrancea_ind
Distance: 1.5229% / 1.52285409 | ADC: 0.25x
94.4 Romania_Banat
3.0 Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk
2.6 Romania_Jewish


<tbody>
Distance to:
Vrancea_ind


3.75058662
Romania_Moldavia_Vrancea


3.91029411
Romania_Moldavia_Bacau


4.04533064
Romania_Moldavia_Galati


5.18568221
Romania_Moldavia_Neamt


5.83980308
Romania_Moldavia_Iasi


6.79007364
Romania_Moldavia_3/4Romanian_1/4Roma


6.99524839
Romania_Moldavia_Vaslui


7.82187318
Romania_Moldavia_Botosani


9.84003557
Romania_Moldavia_Suceava


10.55969223
Romania_Moldavia_Csango


15.03036593
Romania_Moldavia_Ukrainian


25.76684886
Romania_Moldavia_Jewish

</tbody>

Ion Basescul
09-13-2020, 08:57 PM
Falesti (R. Moldova)

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N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan


26.22
34.90
12.85
10.54
10.96
1.08
0.09
1.83
0
0.52
0.41
0
0.59

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Compared to others partially from Falesti

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N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan


24.90
34.32
14.54
5.42
14.28
2.29
1.58
0
2.07
0
0.34
0
0.25

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Distance to:
Falesti_ind


3.51623378
Bosniak_Bosnia_NE&Central


3.77573834
Moldova_North


3.89125944
Croat_Slavonia


4.79444470
Croat


4.86499743
Croat_Croatia


5.05016831
Croat_B&H_West_Bosnia


5.39099249
Croat_B&H


5.46852814
Croat_Croatia_Lika-Senj


5.55537577
Croat_B&H_Herzegovina


5.58683273
Hungarian_Alfold


5.78531728
Bosniak_Sarajevo


5.97800134
Croat_Istria_&_Kvarner


6.06259021
Croat_Croatia_Dalmatia


6.24217911
Croat_B&H_Bosnia


6.39061030
Serb_B&H_Bosnia_proper


6.54303446
Hungarian


6.54628903
Bosniak


6.71143800
Croat_Croatia_Zagorje


6.74993333
Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk


7.02972972
Croat_Croatia_Gorski_Kotar


7.12755919
Hungarian_Budapest


7.23338786
Slovenian


7.27069460
Serb_B&H


7.27906587
Hungarian_Northern


7.34636645
Hungarian_Csango

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<tbody>
Distance to:
Falesti_ind


3.77573834
Moldova_North


6.74993333
Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk


8.39748772
Moldova_Centre


9.68579372
Moldova_Ukrainian


10.02150687
Ukrainian_Lviv


11.43127727
Ukrainian


14.33704991
Moldova_South


16.84574724
Russian_Smolensk


18.26456131
Moldova_South_Gagauz


18.73891406
Moldova_Bulgarian


25.12833622
Russian_Pinega


28.43392164
Crimean_Tatar


28.83996012
Romania_Dobruja-Tatar


38.12593343
Moldova_Jewish


38.98335414
Moldova_Roma


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Target: Falesti_ind
Distance: 3.1586% / 3.15859459 | ADC: 0.25x
80.0 Moldova_North
11.6 Russian_Smolensk
8.4 Moldova_Centre


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Distance to:
Falesti_ind


3.67329552
Moldova_Falesti


3.96784576
Moldova_1/2Moldovan_1/2EastSlavic


4.30861927
Moldova_Briceni


4.84979381
Moldova_Rezina


5.34893447
Moldova_Telenesti


5.46881157
Moldova_Transnistria


5.67722644
Moldova_Edinet


5.69051843
Moldova_Orhei


5.74149806
Moldova_Chisinau


5.85865172
Moldova_Ocnita


5.94166643
Moldova_Balti


6.20436943
Moldova_Glodeni


6.78803359
Moldova_Floresti


7.12741187
Moldova_Soldanesti


7.19565841
Moldova_Straseni


7.22538580
Moldova_Ialoveni


7.36345028
Moldova_Eurogenes


7.76593845
Moldova_Calarasi


8.24304555
Moldova_Nisporeni


9.01390038
Moldova_AneniiNoi


9.68579372
Moldova_Ukrainian


10.10237101
Moldova_Cimislia


10.72670033
Moldova_Ungheni


10.76374470
Moldova_Hincesti


11.74171197
Moldova_Causeni


14.45210711
Moldova_Cahul


15.68687031
Moldova_StefanVoda


18.08626274
Moldova_Gagauzia


18.28519073
Moldova_Cantemir


18.73891406
Moldova_Bulgarian


38.12593343
Moldova_Jewish


38.98335414
Moldova_Roma


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Ion Basescul
09-13-2020, 09:04 PM
Vaslui (Romania's Moldavia)

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N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan


26.83
28.68
12.40
9.88
16.13
2.43
0
0
2.06
0.76
0.19
0.05
0.60

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Compared to others from Vaslui

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N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan


26.56
26.95
15.36
8.59
16.04
3.01
0.55
0.08
2.86
0
0
0
0


27.11
28.41
15.71
11.50
11.75
2.05
0.24
0
2.54
0
0.17
0.51
0


23.46
28.78
17.10
9.49
15.08
2.33
0.19
0.10
2.35
0.58
0.56
0
0


27.35
30.13
13.04
10.69
15.62
1.55
0
0
1.50
0.11
0
0
0


24.66
30.29
16.67
14.00
10.44
0.58
0.27
0
1.69
0.91
0.09
0.40
0

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Distance to:
Vaslui_ind


3.94859469
Romania_Moldavia_North


4.66837231
Romania_Moldavia_average


5.10148998
Moldova_average


5.11782180
Hungarian_Szekely


5.13114997
Serb_Croatia_Dalmatia


5.18981695
Serb_Croatia_Kordun&Banija


5.22860402
Serb_Croatia


5.35711676
Bosniak


5.48822376
Romania_Crisana


5.55808420
Serb_B&H_Herzegovina


5.57163351
Hungarian_Csango


5.57815382
Serb


5.58046593
Serb_Serbia_Vojvodina


5.66014134
Serb_Serbia


5.69830677
Serb_Serbia_West&Central


5.74409981
Bosniak_Sarajevo


5.76725238
Moldova_Centre


5.80406754
Croat_Croatia_Dalmatia


5.80436904
Serb_B&H_Bosnia_proper


5.80901024
Serb_B&H


5.99739944
Serb_Croatia_Lika


6.01473191
Croat_B&H_West_Bosnia


6.07313757
Croat_B&H


6.09165002
Hungarian_Transylvania


6.23098708
Croat_B&H_Bosnia


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<tbody>
Distance to:
Vaslui_ind


3.91132970
Romania_Moldova_Nord


4.42599141
Romania_Moldova_Csango


5.19812174
Romania_Transilvania_Szekely


5.48822376
Romania_Crisana


5.88583972
Romania_Transilvania_Hungarian


6.24446955
Romania_Moldova_Sud


6.44228220
Romania_Maramures


6.97595872
Romania_Transilvania


7.75025161
Romania_Oltenia


8.65043930
Romania_Banat


8.69416471
Romania_Muntenia


9.19384033
Romania_Dobrogea


10.05004478
Bulgarian


12.07379808
Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk


13.10041221
Aromanian_North-Macedonia-Highlander


13.76165324
Aromanian_North-Macedonia


17.38330233
Ukrainian_Lviv


18.60935517
Aromanian_Central-Macedonia


26.48321922
Crimean_Tatar


28.25065840
Romania_Dobruja_Tatar


31.24397862
Romania_Jewish


35.04522079
Romania_Roma


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Target: Vaslui_ind
Distance: 3.5133% / 3.51333465 | ADC: 0.25x
67.0 Romania_Moldova_Nord
30.4 Romania_Transilvania_Szekely
2.6 Romania_Jewish

-Hungarian
Target: Vaslui_ind
Distance: 3.8681% / 3.86808542 | ADC: 0.25x
98.8 Romania_Moldova_Nord
1.2 Romania_Jewish


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Distance to:
Vaslui_ind


3.83241438
Romania_Moldavia_Vaslui


5.57722153
Romania_Moldavia_Csango


6.29961110
Romania_Moldavia_Bacau


8.28276524
Romania_Moldavia_Galati


8.55083622
Romania_Moldavia_Vrancea


9.42039277
Romania_Moldavia_Ukrainian


10.29471709
Romania_Moldavia_3/4Romanian_1/4Roma


31.24397862
Romania_Moldavia_Jewish


</tbody>

Ion Basescul
09-13-2020, 09:08 PM
Galati (Romania's Moldavia)

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N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan


22.52
27.45
17.38
8.35
20.94
2.51
0.42
0
0
0
0.28
0.15
0

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Compared to others from Galati

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N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan


25.66
20.54
19.38
7.46
19.11
3.14
0
1.73
1.97
0
0.31
0.71
0


25.16
26.55
17.24
7.34
18.67
1.22
0.10
0.55
2.79
0.26
0
0
0.11


22.46
22.60
20.88
9.02
18.60
2.24
0.54
1.14
1.35
0.46
0.27
0
0.42


22.08
24.92
18.64
9.44
20.04
0.67
2.40
0.51
0.33
0.62
0.34
0
0


22.69
29.15
17.61
8.40
16.84
0
2.13
2.38
0
0
0.61
0.19
0


21.56
26.67
17.52
13.26
15.33
2.80
0
0.23
0.61
1.01
0.85
0
0.17


23.39
25.98
18.41
11.38
15.27
1.44
1.47
0
0.40
0.95
1.06
0
0.26

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Distance to:
Galati_ind


3.68148068
Serb_Serbia_South&East


3.85616390
Bulgarian_Pleven


3.86715176
Macedonian


4.06600541
Bulgarian_Sofia


4.27214232
Romania_Banat


4.39094523
Serb_B&H_Herzegovina


4.72414013
Romanian_Wallachia


4.74336379
Romania_Transylvania


4.84607057
Romania_Dobruja


4.99761943
Bulgarian_Stara-Zagora


5.00732463
Moldova_South


5.02485821
Romania_Muntenia


5.04833636
Montenegrin


5.05069302
Romanian_Oltenia


5.19094404
Bulgarian


5.21724065
Bosniak_Sandzak


5.30031131
Romania_Moldavia_South


5.55965826
Macedonian_Northwest


5.81184136
Macedonian_East


5.99964999
Macedonian_North


6.08038650
Serb_Serbia


6.08866981
Romania_Crisana


6.15717468
Bulgarian_Central


6.18043688
Romania_Moldavia_average


6.22108511
Bulgarian_Serres

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<tbody>
Distance to:
Galati_ind


4.27214232
Romania_Banat


4.74336379
Romania_Transilvania


4.84607057
Romania_Dobrogea


5.02485821
Romania_Muntenia


5.05069302
Romania_Oltenia


5.19094404
Bulgarian


5.30031131
Romania_Moldova_Sud


6.08866981
Romania_Crisana


6.84561904
Romania_Maramures


7.25364736
Romania_Moldova_Nord


7.61465035
Aromanian_North-Macedonia-Highlander


8.95551785
Romania_Moldova_Csango


9.23272441
Aromanian_North-Macedonia


10.71065709
Romania_Transilvania_Szekely


11.13251393
Romania_Transilvania_Hungarian


12.88959270
Aromanian_Central-Macedonia


15.94832593
Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk


22.59671436
Ukrainian_Lviv


25.79163236
Romania_Jewish


28.85614666
Crimean_Tatar


31.12790709
Romania_Dobruja_Tatar


33.11325414
Romania_Roma

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Target: Galati_ind
Distance: 2.9868% / 2.98682538 | ADC: 0.25x
39.2 Romania_Banat
18.4 Romania_Crisana
11.6 Romania_Maramures
11.0 Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk
10.6 Aromanian_North-Macedonia-Highlander
9.2 Romania_Jewish

-Ukrainian, Aromanian, Jewish
Target: Galati_ind
Distance: 3.8733% / 3.87330597 | ADC: 0.25x
70.2 Romania_Banat
26.6 Romania_Crisana
3.2 Romania_Muntenia


<tbody>
Distance to:
Galati_ind


4.11111907
Romania_Moldavia_Galati


5.01742962
Romania_Moldavia_Bacau


5.62943159
Romania_Moldavia_Vrancea


7.43376755
Romania_Moldavia_Vaslui


8.14231540
Romania_Moldavia_3/4Romanian_1/4Roma


10.50248066
Romania_Moldavia_Csango


13.89068393
Romania_Moldavia_Ukrainian


25.79163236
Romania_Moldavia_Jewish

</tbody>

Ion Basescul
09-13-2020, 09:12 PM
Galati (Romania's Moldavia)

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N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan


30.11
20.59
20.39
10.51
13.94
2.83
0.03
0
1.49
0.03
0.08
0
0

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Compared to others from Galati

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N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan


22.52
27.45
17.38
8.35
20.94
2.51
0.42
0
0
0
0.28
0.15
0


25.66
20.54
19.38
7.46
19.11
3.14
0
1.73
1.97
0
0.31
0.71
0


25.16
26.55
17.24
7.34
18.67
1.22
0.10
0.55
2.79
0.26
0
0
0.11


22.46
22.60
20.88
9.02
18.60
2.24
0.54
1.14
1.35
0.46
0.27
0
0.42


22.08
24.92
18.64
9.44
20.04
0.67
2.40
0.51
0.33
0.62
0.34
0
0


22.69
29.15
17.61
8.40
16.84
0
2.13
2.38
0
0
0.61
0.19
0


21.56
26.67
17.52
13.26
15.33
2.80
0
0.23
0.61
1.01
0.85
0
0.17


23.39
25.98
18.41
11.38
15.27
1.44
1.47
0
0.40
0.95
1.06
0
0.26

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<tbody>
Distance to:
Galati_ind


7.30724298
Friuli-VG


8.23989078
Trentino


8.60811826
Montenegrin


8.82031745
Veneto


8.84285022
Bulgarian_Central


8.86833130
Swiss_French


9.06857210
Macedonian_Northwest


9.09550988
Romanian_Oltenia


9.48623740
Romania_Transylvania


9.52174879
Bulgarian_Southwest


9.58846605
North_Macedonian


9.76016393
Serb_Croatia_Dalmatia


9.83211066
Bosniak_Sandzak


9.87612778
Romania_Moldavia_South


9.96161132
Bulgarian_Serres


9.99398319
Romania_Crisana


10.12655659
Macedonian


10.15816913
Bulgarian_Gabrovo


10.16273585
FRA_Provence


10.18320185
Hungarian_Szekely


10.22931083
Vlach_North-Macedonia


10.24827303
Romanian_Wallachia


10.25023902
Piedmont


10.55649563
Serb_Croatia


10.55713503
Hungarian_Transylvania


</tbody>


<tbody>
Distance to:
Galati_ind


9.09550988
Romania_Oltenia


9.48623740
Romania_Transilvania


9.87612778
Romania_Moldova_Sud


9.97782139
Romania_Transilvania_Szekely


9.99398319
Romania_Crisana


10.22931083
Aromanian_North-Macedonia


10.65471703
Romania_Transilvania_Hungarian


11.28122334
Romania_Muntenia


11.33799806
Romania_Dobrogea


11.43880676
Bulgarian


11.46452354
Romania_Moldova_Csango


11.68921725
Romania_Banat


12.19084903
Romania_Moldova_Nord


12.39463997
Aromanian_North-Macedonia-Highlander


12.43458483
Romania_Maramures


14.36975296
Aromanian_Central-Macedonia


20.35018673
Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk


24.91646243
Ukrainian_Lviv


29.00904859
Romania_Jewish


29.19589012
Crimean_Tatar


32.13236997
Romania_Dobruja_Tatar


34.31062809
Romania_Roma


</tbody>

Target: Galati_ind
Distance: 6.9740% / 6.97395504 | ADC: 0.25x
51.2 Romania_Transilvania_Szekely
48.8 Aromanian_North-Macedonia


<tbody>
Distance to:
Galati_ind


8.78895329
Romania_Moldavia_Galati


9.90649787
Romania_Moldavia_Vrancea


9.95666109
Romania_Moldavia_Vaslui


10.67516745
Romania_Moldavia_Bacau


11.30039380
Romania_Moldavia_Csango


13.04254193
Romania_Moldavia_3/4Romanian_1/4Roma


17.63558618
Romania_Moldavia_Ukrainian


29.00904859
Romania_Moldavia_Jewish


</tbody>

Aspirin
09-13-2020, 09:27 PM
Galati (Romania's Moldavia)

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N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan


30.11
20.59
20.39
10.51
13.94
2.83
0.03
0
1.49
0.03
0.08
0
0

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30% N. Atlantic and 20% Baltic?

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Ion Basescul
09-13-2020, 09:35 PM
30% N. Atlantic and 20% Baltic?

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/proxy/0XJEYgEbOvQrzb5xNYPd5rMy0ev6P11E1_Nr6wxIO85byBlhXR MbeMVEH-Vqp-QTsnVJ1Kk_33UupurXBMJfEOssszEAf6soXbEnVrb_Y1SSa72p EDqSQH4I2txdiik

An actual user from Apricity. Maybe he will like to talk about it, but as far as it was communicated to me, all 4 gp are ethnic Romanians from there.

Ion Basescul
09-28-2020, 09:25 PM
From Briceni (Republic of Moldova)
both parents born in the town of Lipcani

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N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan


22.85
36.30
13.11
9.12
13.06
1.59
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2.69
1.27
0
0
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Compared to others from Moldova


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Distance to:
Briceni_ind


3.10332080
Moldova_Briceni


3.92905841
Moldova_Edinet


4.20320116
Moldova_Falesti


4.41293553
Moldova_1/2Moldovan_1/2EastSlavic


4.94263088
Moldova_Soldanesti


5.43335992
Moldova_Chisinau


5.72524235
Moldova_Glodeni


5.74492820
Moldova_Balti


5.87853723
Moldova_Floresti


6.23725901
Moldova_Ialoveni


6.24422934
Moldova_AneniiNoi


6.30713088
Moldova_Telenesti


6.35513965
Moldova_Eurogenes


6.95667306
Moldova_Rezina


6.98259264
Moldova_Ocnita


7.24945515
Moldova_Orhei


7.47627581
Moldova_Straseni


7.85466104
Moldova_Transnistria


8.51442893
Moldova_Cimislia


8.62332882
Moldova_Nisporeni


8.69926434
Moldova_Calarasi


9.68274754
Moldova_Hincesti


9.91644089
Moldova_Ukrainian


10.14265744
Moldova_Ungheni


11.73326042
Moldova_Causeni


14.52854432
Moldova_Cahul


14.93882526
Moldova_StefanVoda


17.42462338
Moldova_Gagauzia


18.52219209
Moldova_Cantemir


19.02911191
Moldova_Bulgarian


37.05237374
Moldova_Jewish


38.62551100
Moldova_Roma


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Target: Briceni_ind
Distance: 2.7121% / 2.71206988 | ADC: 0.25x
68.2 Moldova_Centre
11.8 Russian_Pinega
11.4 Moldova_Ukrainian
8.6 Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk

Aspirin
09-28-2020, 09:31 PM
From Briceni (Republic of Moldova)
both parents born in the town of Lipcani


Can you post the Oracle too?

Ion Basescul
09-28-2020, 10:06 PM
Can you post the Oracle too?

Sure, I usually avoid it because we both know that the average was made by slapping several ethnicities together. And because of that, I'm also skeptical with regards to other nationalities.


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N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan


Original GEDmatch Moldovan
24.45
33.59
14.99
9.79
10.47
1.56
1.29
0.52
1.31
0.78
0.75
0.08
0.41


Average North
25.89
33.33
14.92
8.89
11.43
1.48
0.65
0.56
1.47
0.35
0.61
0.17
0.26


Average Centre
23.30
30.44
15.09
10.01
14.77
1.87
1.22
0.60
1.44
0.52
0.38
0.14
0.20


Average South
21.68
25.46
18.06
10.91
18.15
2.51
0.41
0.61
1.02
0.58
0.39
0.10
0.12

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# Population Percent
1 Baltic 36.3
2 North_Atlantic 22.85
3 West_Med 13.11
4 East_Med 13.06
5 West_Asian 9.12
6 Siberian 2.69
7 Red_Sea 1.59
8 Amerindian 1.27


Single Population Sharing:


# Population (source) Distance
1 Moldavian 4.57
2 Croatian 5.83
3 Ukrainian_Lviv 9.59
4 Serbian 9.75
5 Hungarian 9.84
6 Ukrainian 10.62
7 South_Polish 11.02
8 Romanian 12.26
9 Southwest_Russian 12.66
10 Ukrainian_Belgorod 13.09
11 Bulgarian 13.64
12 Polish 14.01
13 Austrian 14.76
14 East_German 14.87
15 Russian_Smolensk 15.15
16 Estonian_Polish 15.52
17 Belorussian 16.25
18 Kargopol_Russian 16.56
19 Erzya 17.43
20 Tatar 17.76


Mixed Mode Population Sharing:


# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 69.9% Southwest_Russian + 30.1% Central_Greek @ 1.94
2 72.9% Southwest_Russian + 27.1% South_Italian @ 1.95
3 64% Southwest_Russian + 36% Greek_Thessaly @ 2
4 51.9% Southwest_Russian + 48.1% Bulgarian @ 2.06
5 56.2% Bulgarian + 43.8% Erzya @ 2.1
6 58.9% Romanian + 41.1% Erzya @ 2.14
7 70.9% Southwest_Russian + 29.1% East_Sicilian @ 2.21
8 54.9% Bulgarian + 45.1% Kargopol_Russian @ 2.21
9 80.6% Ukrainian + 19.4% Cyprian @ 2.35
10 82.6% Ukrainian + 17.4% Lebanese_Christian @ 2.36
11 82.4% Ukrainian + 17.6% Samaritan @ 2.56
12 82.3% Ukrainian + 17.7% Lebanese_Druze @ 2.63
13 63.4% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 36.6% Greek_Thessaly @ 2.7
14 71% Southwest_Russian + 29% West_Sicilian @ 2.71
15 70% Southwest_Russian + 30% Italian_Abruzzo @ 2.73
16 50.8% Romanian + 49.2% Southwest_Russian @ 2.75
17 75.6% Southwest_Russian + 24.4% Algerian_Jewish @ 2.76
18 81.2% Ukrainian + 18.8% Lebanese_Muslim @ 2.76
19 51.1% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 48.9% Bulgarian @ 2.79
20 75.7% Southwest_Russian + 24.3% Sephardic_Jewish @ 2.83

Aspirin
09-28-2020, 10:13 PM
# Population Percent
1 Baltic 36.3
2 North_Atlantic 22.85
3 West_Med 13.11
4 East_Med 13.06
5 West_Asian 9.12
6 Siberian 2.69
7 Red_Sea 1.59
8 Amerindian 1.27


Single Population Sharing:


# Population (source) Distance
1 Moldavian 4.57
2 Croatian 5.83
3 Ukrainian_Lviv 9.59
4 Serbian 9.75
5 Hungarian 9.84
6 Ukrainian 10.62
7 South_Polish 11.02
8 Romanian 12.26
9 Southwest_Russian 12.66
10 Ukrainian_Belgorod 13.09
11 Bulgarian 13.64
12 Polish 14.01
13 Austrian 14.76
14 East_German 14.87
15 Russian_Smolensk 15.15
16 Estonian_Polish 15.52
17 Belorussian 16.25
18 Kargopol_Russian 16.56
19 Erzya 17.43
20 Tatar 17.76


Mixed Mode Population Sharing:


# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 69.9% Southwest_Russian + 30.1% Central_Greek @ 1.94
2 72.9% Southwest_Russian + 27.1% South_Italian @ 1.95
3 64% Southwest_Russian + 36% Greek_Thessaly @ 2
4 51.9% Southwest_Russian + 48.1% Bulgarian @ 2.06
5 56.2% Bulgarian + 43.8% Erzya @ 2.1
6 58.9% Romanian + 41.1% Erzya @ 2.14
7 70.9% Southwest_Russian + 29.1% East_Sicilian @ 2.21
8 54.9% Bulgarian + 45.1% Kargopol_Russian @ 2.21
9 80.6% Ukrainian + 19.4% Cyprian @ 2.35
10 82.6% Ukrainian + 17.4% Lebanese_Christian @ 2.36
11 82.4% Ukrainian + 17.6% Samaritan @ 2.56
12 82.3% Ukrainian + 17.7% Lebanese_Druze @ 2.63
13 63.4% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 36.6% Greek_Thessaly @ 2.7
14 71% Southwest_Russian + 29% West_Sicilian @ 2.71
15 70% Southwest_Russian + 30% Italian_Abruzzo @ 2.73
16 50.8% Romanian + 49.2% Southwest_Russian @ 2.75
17 75.6% Southwest_Russian + 24.4% Algerian_Jewish @ 2.76
18 81.2% Ukrainian + 18.8% Lebanese_Muslim @ 2.76
19 51.1% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 48.9% Bulgarian @ 2.79
20 75.7% Southwest_Russian + 24.3% Sephardic_Jewish @ 2.83

Very northern.

Ion Basescul
09-28-2020, 10:20 PM
Very northern.

Reminds me of my mom's Oracle



# Population Percent
1 Baltic 37.3
2 North_Atlantic 19.44
3 West_Med 15.6
4 East_Med 13.19
5 West_Asian 10.04
6 East_Asian 1.49
7 South_Asian 0.95
8 Oceanian 0.82
9 Red_Sea 0.47
10 Amerindian 0.41
11 Siberian 0.28


Single Population Sharing:


# Population (source) Distance
1 Moldavian 6.25
2 Croatian 7.99
3 Ukrainian_Lviv 11.42
4 Serbian 11.5
5 Ukrainian 12.18
6 Romanian 13.11
7 Hungarian 13.15
8 South_Polish 13.26
9 Bulgarian 13.68
10 Southwest_Russian 14.19
11 Ukrainian_Belgorod 14.26
12 Polish 15.81
13 Russian_Smolensk 16.57
14 Estonian_Polish 17.02
15 Austrian 17.59
16 East_German 17.62
17 Belorussian 17.97
18 Kargopol_Russian 18.35
19 Erzya 18.65
20 Tatar 20.11


Mixed Mode Population Sharing:


# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 78.9% Ukrainian + 21.1% Cyprian @ 4.64
2 61.7% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 38.3% Greek_Thessaly @ 4.88
3 58.5% Bulgarian + 41.5% Erzya @ 4.88
4 51.2% Bulgarian + 48.8% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 4.94
5 81.4% Ukrainian + 18.6% Lebanese_Christian @ 4.99
6 68% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 32% Central_Greek @ 5.04
7 51.1% Bulgarian + 48.9% Southwest_Russian @ 5.06
8 68.2% Southwest_Russian + 31.8% Central_Greek @ 5.12
9 81.1% Ukrainian + 18.9% Samaritan @ 5.13
10 61.9% Southwest_Russian + 38.1% Greek_Thessaly @ 5.13
11 80.8% Ukrainian + 19.2% Assyrian @ 5.14
12 73.9% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 26.1% Algerian_Jewish @ 5.18
13 71.3% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 28.7% South_Italian @ 5.21
14 69.1% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 30.9% East_Sicilian @ 5.25
15 66.6% Lithuanian + 33.4% Cyprian @ 5.29
16 79.9% Ukrainian + 20.1% Lebanese_Muslim @ 5.29
17 81.5% Ukrainian + 18.5% Kurdish_Jewish @ 5.31
18 62.6% Bulgarian + 37.4% Lithuanian @ 5.31
19 76.1% Southwest_Russian + 23.9% Cyprian @ 5.33
20 80.8% Ukrainian + 19.2% Georgian_Jewish @ 5.35

Aspirin
09-28-2020, 11:00 PM
Reminds me of my mom's Oracle



# Population Percent
1 Baltic 37.3
2 North_Atlantic 19.44
3 West_Med 15.6
4 East_Med 13.19
5 West_Asian 10.04
6 East_Asian 1.49
7 South_Asian 0.95
8 Oceanian 0.82
9 Red_Sea 0.47
10 Amerindian 0.41
11 Siberian 0.28


Single Population Sharing:


# Population (source) Distance
1 Moldavian 6.25
2 Croatian 7.99
3 Ukrainian_Lviv 11.42
4 Serbian 11.5
5 Ukrainian 12.18
6 Romanian 13.11
7 Hungarian 13.15
8 South_Polish 13.26
9 Bulgarian 13.68
10 Southwest_Russian 14.19
11 Ukrainian_Belgorod 14.26
12 Polish 15.81
13 Russian_Smolensk 16.57
14 Estonian_Polish 17.02
15 Austrian 17.59
16 East_German 17.62
17 Belorussian 17.97
18 Kargopol_Russian 18.35
19 Erzya 18.65
20 Tatar 20.11


Mixed Mode Population Sharing:


# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 78.9% Ukrainian + 21.1% Cyprian @ 4.64
2 61.7% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 38.3% Greek_Thessaly @ 4.88
3 58.5% Bulgarian + 41.5% Erzya @ 4.88
4 51.2% Bulgarian + 48.8% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 4.94
5 81.4% Ukrainian + 18.6% Lebanese_Christian @ 4.99
6 68% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 32% Central_Greek @ 5.04
7 51.1% Bulgarian + 48.9% Southwest_Russian @ 5.06
8 68.2% Southwest_Russian + 31.8% Central_Greek @ 5.12
9 81.1% Ukrainian + 18.9% Samaritan @ 5.13
10 61.9% Southwest_Russian + 38.1% Greek_Thessaly @ 5.13
11 80.8% Ukrainian + 19.2% Assyrian @ 5.14
12 73.9% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 26.1% Algerian_Jewish @ 5.18
13 71.3% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 28.7% South_Italian @ 5.21
14 69.1% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 30.9% East_Sicilian @ 5.25
15 66.6% Lithuanian + 33.4% Cyprian @ 5.29
16 79.9% Ukrainian + 20.1% Lebanese_Muslim @ 5.29
17 81.5% Ukrainian + 18.5% Kurdish_Jewish @ 5.31
18 62.6% Bulgarian + 37.4% Lithuanian @ 5.31
19 76.1% Southwest_Russian + 23.9% Cyprian @ 5.33
20 80.8% Ukrainian + 19.2% Georgian_Jewish @ 5.35

Yes, similar results, but your mother is mixed, he is not.

Ion Basescul
09-30-2020, 09:14 PM
I've got some very rare results donated to me, which I will process and share tomorrow.
A Moldovan/Romanian with parents from Bolgrad and Izmail in the Budjak region of Ukraine.

Ion Basescul
10-01-2020, 11:03 AM
I've got some very rare results donated to me, which I will process and share tomorrow.
A Moldovan/Romanian with parents from Bolgrad and Izmail in the Budjak region of Ukraine.

As promised

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N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan


18.04
26.87
17.24
12.49
19.31
2.99
0.68
0.27
1.35
0.76
0
0
0

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Compared to other South Moldovans

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N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan


18.71
29.10
18.39
10.79
14.63
4.48
0
0.85
0
2.02
0.74
0.25
0


21.75
29.53
15.63
11.25
16.39
0.98
1.08
0
3.24
0
0.15
0
0


25.66
20.54
19.38
7.46
19.11
3.14
0
1.73
1.97
0
0.31
0.71
0


24.58
26.99
16.65
9.73
18.18
0.81
0.65
0
0
1.67
0.67
0
0.08


25.52
22.73
18.64
10.79
16.15
1.81
0.56
0.39
1.59
1.43
0.39
0
0


22.29
23.14
18.52
9.30
22.34
0.76
0
0.51
1.65
0.89
0.23
0.38
0


22.37
27.22
20.67
11.29
12.72
2.47
0.35
0
2.30
0.43
0.19
0
0


25.53
21.30
17.70
11.50
17.99
1.44
0.76
1.26
0.73
1.10
0.57
0
0.15


22.73
24.91
19.63
10.59
16.07
1.66
1.38
0.20
1.36
0.94
0.53
0
0


21.01
25.42
16.62
11.92
18.51
4.11
0.58
0
0
0
0.50
0.51
0.82


18.42
25.95
16.17
15.44
17.84
3.82
0.56
0.56
0
1.25
0
0
0


18.27
19.97
19.01
15.32
19.44
4.68
0.12
1.50
0.68
0.54
0
0
0.48


19.84
23.81
19.67
11.16
19.93
3.16
0
0.00
1.21
0.29
0.52
0
0.40


22.08
23.50
19.95
9.57
19.50
3.24
0
1.74
0.34
0
0.08
0
0


16.91
24.06
20.61
12.07
23.58
0
0.52
0
1.03
0
0.29
0.45
0.50


20.23
23.81
21.69
7.85
19.98
3.35
0
0
2.91
0
0.19
0
0


21.08
28.93
14.78
9.89
19.66
4.48
0.57
0.61
0
0
0
0
0


21.23
24.68
15.16
12.29
20.35
3.67
0
0
2.38
0
0.25
0
0


26.39
24.34
17.44
13.21
12.41
4.18
0
0.31
0.71
0
0.89
0
0.12

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Distance to:
Bolhrad_ind


3.79639302
Moldova_StefanVoda


4.24366587
Bulgaria_Northcentral


4.62403503
Pomak_Nevrokopi


4.78118186
Romania_Muntenia


4.83393215
Bulgaria_Northwestern


4.83646565
Bulgaria_Southcentral


4.85996914
Bulgaria_average


4.91451931
Romania_Dobruja


5.06033596
Moldova_Gagauzia


5.17741248
Moldova_Ungheni


5.26155870
Romania_Banat


5.42990792
Pomak_Drama


5.48498861
Macedonian_Central


5.57640565
Romania_Wallachia


5.83334381
Bulgaria_Southwestern


5.97984114
Bulgaria_Southeastern


6.15126003
Romania_average


6.28036623
Bulgaria_Northeastern


6.31061804
MMacedonian


6.47618715
Moldova_Cimislia


6.47992284
Macedonian_North


6.48383374
Romania_Oltenia


6.63229221
Moldova_Hincesti


6.74544291
Macedonian_Northwest


6.86673139
Serb_Serbia_South&East


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Distance to:
Bolhrad_ind


4.52645557
Moldova_South


5.06033596
Moldova_South_Gagauzia


8.58612835
Moldova_Centre


9.16172473
Moldova_Bulgarian


13.66773939
Moldova_North


18.18912587
Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk


23.14622431
Moldova_Ukrainian


23.80914320
Ukrainian_Lviv


24.83952294
Moldova_Jewish


24.95161317
Crimean_Tatar


25.20989488
Ukrainian


27.95123611
Romania_Dobruja-Tatar


30.46376044
Russian_Smolensk


30.46546898
Moldova_Roma


36.82033584
Russian_Pinega

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Target: Bolhrad_ind
Distance: 4.2186% / 4.21864447 | ADC: 0.25x
92.2 Moldova_South
2.8 Moldova_Jewish
2.8 Crimean_Tatar
1.2 Moldova_Roma
1.0 Russian_Pinega


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Distance to:
Bolhrad_ind


3.79639302
Moldova_StefanVoda


5.06033596
Moldova_Gagauzia


5.17741248
Moldova_Ungheni


6.47618715
Moldova_Cimislia


6.63229221
Moldova_Hincesti


7.39275997
Moldova_Cahul


7.74342947
Moldova_Causeni


8.37581638
Moldova_Eurogenes


8.44975148
Moldova_Ialoveni


9.16172473
Moldova_Bulgarian


9.92043850
Moldova_Calarasi


9.98363160
Moldova_Chisinau


10.15087188
Moldova_Straseni


10.30358675
Moldova_Nisporeni


10.84587018
Moldova_Soldanesti


10.86261939
Moldova_Balti


11.26948091
Moldova_Telenesti


11.49923911
Moldova_Cantemir


12.28151456
Moldova_Edinet


12.50733785
Moldova_Orhei


12.55245394
Moldova_Briceni


12.79983984
Moldova_Ocnita


13.03861572
Moldova_Glodeni


13.46828497
Moldova_AneniiNoi


14.03177822
Moldova_Falesti


14.61447570
Moldova_Floresti


16.23802020
Moldova_1/2Moldovan_1/<wbr>2EastSlavic


16.58335913
Moldova_Transnistria


17.00424065
Moldova_Rezina


23.14622431
Moldova_Ukrainian


24.83952294
Moldova_Jewish


30.46546898
Moldova_Roma

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Ion Basescul
10-01-2020, 11:25 AM
Yes, similar results, but your mother is mixed, he is not.

He definitely is, but not recently. People in the North seem to be quite the Ukrainian mix. Far from pure, just like those in the South seem to be mixed with a Southern element. All of Moldova is a big corcitura.

Leto
10-01-2020, 11:51 AM
Very Southern for someone from Odessa oblast but then again, he is more native to the region than the (Russo-)Ukrainians living there.

Ion Basescul
10-01-2020, 11:54 AM
Very Southern for someone from Odessa oblast but then again, he is more native to the region than the (Russo-)Ukrainians living there.

Yep, the Stefan Voda samples from the village of Caplani are also on the border with Odessa Oblast. And as a group they are our most Southern group from Moldova. Individually, some of them are also the most Southern Moldovans that I've got yet, though I have significantly less samples from the South as opposed to the Centre and North.

Leto
10-01-2020, 12:03 PM
Yep, the Stefan Voda samples from the village of Caplani are also on the border with Odessa Oblast. And as a group they are our most Southern group from Moldova. Individually, some of them are also the most Southern Moldovans that I've got yet, though I have significantly less samples from the South as opposed to the Centre and North.

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I think I checked the share of the Southern Moldovan districts relative to the whole country's population and it was something like 20% with Gagauzia and 15% without it. So they should naturally be rarer.

Aspirin
10-01-2020, 12:16 PM
All of Moldova is a big corcitura.

In your case is true.

Ion Basescul
10-01-2020, 12:17 PM
I think I checked the share of the Southern Moldovan districts relative to the whole country's population and it was something like 20% with Gagauzia and 15% without it. So they should naturally be rarer.

Yes, I've just checked and there are 16% without Gagauzia in the South and 25% in the North. The majority is in the Centre and specifically Chisinau.

Ion Basescul
10-01-2020, 12:20 PM
In your case is true.

For you Ukrainian mixes who got acculturated as Moldovans are not corcituras because you are a big Slavic simp. But it's true, like it or not.
When you will test and find hundreds of Ukrainian and Polish matches, you will also accept that.

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Aspirin
10-01-2020, 12:24 PM
Very Southern for someone from Odessa oblast but then again, he is more native to the region than the (Russo-)Ukrainians living there.

Bolgrad and Ismail districts have a big Bulgarian presence, especially Bolgrad who was their center in Budjak, and still is.

Aspirin
10-01-2020, 12:52 PM
For you Ukrainian mixes who got acculturated as Moldovans are not corcituras because you are a big Slavic simp. But it's true, like it or not.
When you will test and find hundreds of Ukrainian and Polish matches, you will also accept that.

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Strange you tell me this, since my arguments on results of some people from my area who are visible northern for region, I said they can be Ukrainian admixed because I know local ethnic background. Person from Briceni is Northern because half of the district is Ukrainian, part of them are even native for the region, who can be themself Balkan admixed already like Carpathian Rusyns, is similar to the South, but more complex.

And yes, I don't like then Moldavians are darkwashed by some Romanos or Serbs who chose especially these very southern results from the South, and claiming what they are "pure" , the rest are bastards mixed with Ukrainians/Russians, I saw this so many times. I take all this as a personal insults.

Nothing strange to have Ukrainian/Polish matches, when Eastern Slavs are part of Moldavian ethnogenesis since XIVth century.

Ion Basescul
10-01-2020, 01:03 PM
Strange you tell me this, since my arguments on results of some people from my area who are visible northern for region, I said they can be Ukrainian admixed because I know local ethnic background. Person from Briceni is Northern because half of the district is Ukrainian, part of them are even native for the region, who can be themself Balkan admixed already like Carpathian Rusyns, is similar to the South, but more complex.

And yes, I don't like then Moldavians are darkwashed by some Romanos or Serbs who chose especially these very southern results from the South, and claiming what they are "pure" , the rest are bastards mixed with Ukrainians/Russians, I saw this so many times. I take all this as a personal insults.

Nothing strange to have Ukrainian/Polish matches, when Eastern Slavs are part of Moldavian ethnogenesis since XIVth century.

There is nothing wrong with being Ukrainian admixed, just like with any other kind of mixes.
I am probably the most qualified from here to draw the assumption that everyone is fairly mixed, since I have seen the most results over the years, be they on GEDmatch, 23andme, MyHeritage, FTDNA, etc.
What I find funny is that you accept East Slavic mixes as Moldovan, whereas shunning on Moldovans from the South, who come from monoethnic villages, like those from Caplani. This is hypocritical and denotes personal insecurities.

It is strange, when the same Moldovans from over the river don't have the same weight of Ukrainian and Polish matches. This leads to the conclusion that people here are more multicultural genetically and assimilated such people in the past.

Aspirin
10-01-2020, 01:30 PM
There is nothing wrong with being Ukrainian admixed, just like with any other kind of mixes.
I am probably the most qualified from here to draw the assumption that everyone is fairly mixed, since I have seen the most results over the years, be they on GEDmatch, 23andme, MyHeritage, FTDNA, etc.
What I find funny is that you accept East Slavic mixes as Moldovan, whereas shunning on Moldovans from the South, who come from monoethnic villages, like those from Caplani. This is hypocritical and denotes personal insecurities.

It is strange, when the same Moldovans from over the river don't have the same weight of Ukrainian and Polish matches. This leads to the conclusion that people here are more multicultural genetically and assimilated such people in the past.

South is the most heterogeneous region of the country, with plenty of land colonised recently by many ethnic groups from south of Danube in recent time. These ones from other side of Prut river are mixed with individuals from other regions, they don't have a coutnry in the past 160 years, today they are just Romanos, even by look today they are not much different from Wallachians from the south.

And arguments about monoethnic villages is useless, this one is monoethnic too: http://localitati.casata.md/index.php?l=ro&action=viewlocalitate&id=1211

Eu te rog frumos, nu borī moldovenii.

ixulescu
10-01-2020, 01:40 PM
Eu te rog frumos, nu borī moldovenii.

:rotfl:


Ion Basescul puts it very well in words:


What I find funny is that you accept East Slavic mixes as Moldovan, whereas shunning on Moldovans from the South, who come from monoethnic villages, like those from Caplani. This is hypocritical and denotes personal insecurities.

WeirdLookingFellow
10-01-2020, 01:41 PM
South is the most heterogeneous region of the country, with plenty of land colonised recently by many ethnic groups from south of Danube in recent time. These ones from other side of Prut river are mixed with individuals from other regions, they don't have a coutnry in the past 160 years, today they are just Romanos, even by look today they are not much different from Wallachians from the south.

And arguments about monoethnic villages is useless, this one is monoethnic too: http://localitati.casata.md/index.php?l=ro&action=viewlocalitate&id=1211

Eu te rog frumos, nu borī moldovenii.

There was safe to no Wallachian immigration into Moldova, except for the known Vrancea-Galati-Braila-Buzau area of intermixing. Even so, most Moldavians from said area do not know to have southern origins.

Whatever documents we have earlier than 1900 show at most some Transylvanians moving in.

Edit: And just to add, there's nothing wrong with looking like Wallachians, although I'd say we diverge.

Te rog eu frumos, nu borī moldovenii.

Leto
10-01-2020, 01:54 PM
If it's an old mix shared by the entire community or most members of it, then the person is considered pure/full/unmixed. If it's recent (2-3 generation ago) and not characteristic of most of the community, then it's a mixed person. At least that's how I'd describe it. Like my mother for instance. Obviously she's not a full Slav from the Dniepr area but she is a full Russian without known foreign ancestry. What kind of mixing happened there centuries ago is another question and unimportant in terms of ethnic/national identity.

Ion Basescul
10-01-2020, 01:57 PM
If it's an old mix shared by the entire community or most members of it, then the person is considered pure/full/unmixed.

That's the thing, it's not characteristic for the entire community from there. Even though some of them are unmixed, it is obvious that some kind of assimilation happened in their localities to differentiate them genetically from people from the same region.

Ion Basescul
10-01-2020, 01:58 PM
South is the most heterogeneous region of the country, with plenty of land colonised recently by many ethnic groups from south of Danube in recent time. These ones from other side of Prut river are mixed with individuals from other regions, they don't have a coutnry in the past 160 years, today they are just Romanos, even by look today they are not much different from Wallachians from the south.

And arguments about monoethnic villages is useless, this one is monoethnic too: http://localitati.casata.md/index.php?l=ro&action=viewlocalitate&id=1211

Eu te rog frumos, nu borī moldovenii.

Tu ii borasti, incercand disperat sa-i faci slavi fiindca urasti ca-s mai aproape de romani comparativ cu restul moldovenilor. Tu iti insulti propriul popor moldovenesc, numindu-i pe cei din Caplani boraturi, doar fiindca se intersecteaza genetic. Rusine

Mate, when we have confirmed people of Moldovan and Slavic heritage from the North, some of which were even given to me by you and Leto, score the same as some Moldovans from the same area then it is pretty clear that the latter group is far from being unmixed.


I disagree with you. The Southeast corner of Moldova is very homogeneous. Anyone who doesn't believe me (you obviously know that very well), zoom in there and look for the village of Caplani. The Southwest obviously has a higher share of minorities. In that aspect, it is similar to the North of the country.
And I shall also remind you that as Southern as they are, on average villagers in Caplani look in no way different from people in Briceni for example.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f1/Harta_etnica_a_Republicii_Moldova_-_2004.jpg

Leto
10-01-2020, 02:04 PM
That's the thing, it's not characteristic for the entire community from there. Even though some of them are unmixed, it is obvious that some kind of assimilation happened in their localities to differentiate them genetically from people from the same region.
Which community are you talking about? That high Baltic Moldovan from the North? Pretty sure most people are like him unless they are transplants from other regions.

Leto
10-01-2020, 02:08 PM
I'm not an expert in Moldova and Romania but I'd guess Southern MD being about as southern as Southern RO is kind of natural. One region simply being a continuation of the other.

Ion Basescul
10-01-2020, 02:09 PM
There was safe to no Wallachian immigration into Moldova, except for the known Vrancea-Galati-Braila-Buzau area of intermixing. Even so, most Moldavians from said area do not know to have southern origins.

Whatever documents we have earlier than 1900 show at most some Transylvanians moving in.

Edit: And just to add, there's nothing wrong with looking like Wallachians, although I'd say we diverge.

Te rog eu frumos, nu borī moldovenii.



Big words coming from a corcitura. /s
Who gave you the Moldovan pass?

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Aspirin
10-01-2020, 02:10 PM
Te rog eu frumos, nu borī moldovenii.

To late for this, Moldavians from western side of Prut river are just simple Romanos today.

ixulescu
10-01-2020, 02:15 PM
To late for this, Moldavians from western side of Prut river are just simple Romanos today.

"Wait, it's all Romanian?"

"Always has been."

:lol:

WeirdLookingFellow
10-01-2020, 02:19 PM
To late for this, Moldavians from western side of Prut river are just simple Romanos today.

https://i.ibb.co/QF1bVBP/39hoto.jpg (https://ibb.co/TBFvGX4)


Big words coming from a corcitura. /s
Who gave you the Moldovan pass?

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My grandma when she started giving me wine when I was 7.

Aspirin
10-01-2020, 02:36 PM
Tu ii borasti, incercand disperat sa-i faci slavi fiindca urasti ca-s mai aproape de romani comparativ cu restul moldovenilor. Tu iti insulti propriul popor moldovenesc, numindu-i pe cei din Caplani boraturi, doar fiindca se intersecteaza genetic. Rusine

Mate, when we have confirmed people of Moldovan and Slavic heritage from the North, some of which were even given to me by you and Leto, score the same as some Moldovans from the same area then it is pretty clear that the latter group is far from being unmixed.


I disagree with you. The Southeast corner of Moldova is very homogeneous. Anyone who doesn't believe me (you obviously know that very well), zoom in there and look for the village of Caplani. The Southwest obviously has a higher share of minorities. In that aspect, it is similar to the North of the country.
And I shall also remind you that as Southern as they are, on average villagers in Caplani look in no way different from people in Briceni for example.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f1/Harta_etnica_a_Republicii_Moldova_-_2004.jpg

Ei īs sudici că au gene sudice de la coloniștii balcanici, se vede și īn mediile făute de tine pe regiuni. Expresia mea se referă la cum īi caracterizezi pe moldoveni īn general, centrul și nordul nu au așa diferențe mari genetice, numai sudul, fără el moldovenii īs destul de omogeni, ceea ce nu-i de mirare.

Ion Basescul
10-01-2020, 02:39 PM
Which community are you talking about? That high Baltic Moldovan from the North? Pretty sure most people are like him unless they are transplants from other regions.

These are all North Moldovans of unmixed heritage. I am changing the colour of the text to red for those whose ancestors must have assimilated East Slavic minorities.

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0.26
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1.52
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1.42
0.18
0
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9.88
11.62
2.80
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1.67
0.24
0.53
0.73
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0.06
55.15


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25.05
32.68
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12.66
13.32
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22.85
36.30
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9.12
13.06
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2.69
1.27
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59.15


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14.24
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24.08
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10.19
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2.35
0.23
1.04
0.12
0
55.43


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12.12
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0.83
2.20
1.11
0.82
0
0
56.17


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24.07
36.26
9.74
8.78
16.00
1.82
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2.47
0.19
0.54
0.12
0
0
60.33


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31.72
14.36
5.12
13.53
2.10
0.74
1.39
1.35
0
0.72
0
0
60.69


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25.72
33.02
15.85
7.24
11.12
2.58
1.28
0.51
1.65
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0.68
0.36
0
58.74


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33.73
15.02
8.09
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0.30
0.50
0.55
1.55
0.18
0.30
0
1.42
56.51


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34.32
14.54
5.42
14.28
2.29
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2.07
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0.34
0
0.25
59.22


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26.22
34.90
12.85
10.54
10.96
1.08
0.09
1.83
0
0.52
0.41
0
0.59
61.12


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28.97
34.84
12.39
7.67
12.05
0.73
0.44
0
1.37
0
0.51
0.71
0.34
63.81


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25.76
33.38
14.65
8.61
11.03
1.75
0.40
1.16
0.95
0
1.62
0
0.69
59.14


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24.58
31.08
13.08
6.06
16.71
3.33
1.41
0
2.32
1.43
0
0
0
55.66


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35.15
17.59
12.03
7.30
1.37
1.25
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0.81
0.09
0.42
0.28
57.37


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31.42
17.53
9.84
10.26
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0.55
1.85
1.00
0.14
0.11
0.45
58.28


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32.22
15.74
9.12
16.60
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1.11
0.03
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0.93
0.20
53.33


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28.60
15.36
10.43
13.25
0.43
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0.20
3.51
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0.33
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30.55
12.91
10.08
14.54
0.86
1.10
0.20
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0.09
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30.63
15.90
8.79
15.10
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0.38
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12.57
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13.82
1.08
3.54
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2.17
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0.88
0.49
0.36
56.73


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29.55
15.22
10.17
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1.18
1.62
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0.39
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18.01
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11.41
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32.69
13.87
7.89
16.16
0
1.20
0
3.13
0
0.55
1.03
0
56.16


_Balti
24.56
31.94
17.63
6.74
13.24
0.97
2.04
0.68
0.94
0
0.60
0
0.66
56.50


_Balti
23.13
36.19
11.05
9.44
16.58
0
1.15
0
1.84
0.16
0
0
0.45
59.32


_Balti
27.74
31.59
13.10
6.73
15.41
2.30
1.12
0.97
0
0.66
0
0.38
0
59.33


_Balti
24.22
25.35
14.14
12.99
16.10
4.36
0.31
1.40
0.72
0
0.42
0
0
49.57


_Balti
24.09
34.13
11.71
8.79
14.63
3.51
1.25
0
1.51
0.07
0
0
0.30
58.22


_Balti
25.19
33.48
11.17
9.90
12.99
1.06
2.56
0
3.06
0
0.60
0
0
58.67


_Balti
27.62
29.15
13.57
8.81
13.32
3.43
2.95
0.30
0.37
0
0.47
0
0
56.77


_Balti
27.07
28.68
13.68
9.21
14.50
2.21
0.92
0
1.47
1.46
0.34
0
0.46
55.75


_Balti
22.03
33.01
13.83
8.75
17.44
0.67
0.97
0.00
2.96
0
0.34
0
0
55.04


_Balti
24.52
36.71
16.02
7.75
10.27
0.89
1.08
0.72
2.03
0
0
0
0
61.23


_Balti
26.21
36.67
13.51
6.70
11.85
1.81
0
0.12
1.81
1.31
0
0
0
62.88

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I wouldn't have any objections to those scoring more than 60%, if literally all my half Slavic and half Moldovans from the North scored close to that.
You can see that below.


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Origin
N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan
N_Atlantic+Baltic


_1/2Drochia_1/2Polish
22.11
39.39
12.60
7.73
8.94
2.67
3.34
0.58
0.76
1.18
0.69
0
0
61.5


_10/16Ukrainian_6/16Moldovan_Balti
27.18
36.15
11.95
9.09
9.72
2.43
0.98
0
2.06
0
0.22
0.23
0
63.33


_1/2Drochia_1/2Ukrainian
25.56
37.62
13.38
6.59
11.84
0.66
1.22
1.12
0.60
0.38
0.42
0
0.60
63.18


_1/2Russian_1/2Moldovan_Edinet
24.12
37.75
12.57
3.55
14.93
2.29
0.71
0.43
0.48
3.17
0
0
0
61.87

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</google-sheets-html-origin>There are others who also score in the 60-63% range who are halfies, but they are from Chisinau. This is not the case for those above, where they originate in the North.

Local Ukrainians from the North and Transnistria are also not that far off, with one exception. All are confirmed through their family trees and contacts, so I am not just guessing from the surname.

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Origin
N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan
N_Atlantic+Baltic


_Ukrainian_Ribnita
24.82
40.06
14.14
5.78
8.66
1.42
1.15
0
1.83
0.97
0
0.65
0.49
64.88


_Ukrainian_Balti
23.24
42.33
14.39
7.53
6.33
0
1.22
0
2.70
0.62
0.07
1.10
0.47
65.57


_Ukrainian_Floresti
29.08
43.59
11.28
4.32
8.26
0
1.73
0
0
0.99
0.30
0
0.45
72.67


_Ukrainian_Riscani
25.50
39.14
13.68
10.09
7.49
0.57
0.24
0.75
1.75
0
0.39
0.10
0.30
64.64


_Ukrainian_Dubasari
24.49
40.51
12.86
5.03
10.83
1.66
1.63
1.55
0
0.54
0.12
0.77
0
65

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Ion Basescul
10-01-2020, 02:49 PM
Ei īs sudici că au gene sudice de la coloniștii balcanici, se vede și īn mediile făute de tine pe regiuni. Expresia mea se referă la cum īi caracterizezi pe moldoveni īn general, centrul și nordul nu au așa diferențe mari genetice, numai sudul, fără el moldovenii īs destul de omogeni, ceea ce nu-i de mirare.

Doar pe tine si alti nebuni care isi masoara craniile ii deranjeaza ca cei de la sud is mai sudici, sau cei de la nord mai nordici si asa mai departe. Eu pur simplu le spun lucrurilor pe nume, asa cum ele sunt si fara bombonele.
N-avem nicio dovada ca cei din Caplani s-au amestecat cu popoarele din Balcani.
Ambii stim foarte bine ca gagauzii si bulgarii au venit dupa razboiul ruso-turc aici, ceea ce e destul de recent. Avem desigur satul cela din Basarabeasca, dar diferenta acolo e ca se vad originile colonizatorilor in familii si in dictionarul lui Arbore localitatea e mentionata ca colonie bulgara.

Aspirin
10-01-2020, 02:53 PM
Doar pe tine si alti nebuni care isi masoara craniile ii deranjeaza ca cei de la sud is mai sudici, sau cei de la nord mai nordici si asa mai departe. Eu pur simplu le spun lucrurilor pe nume, asa cum ele sunt si fara bombonele.

Asta pentru că tu te identifici ca rumīnoid, mie ca moldovan mă deranjează. Eu te rog frumos, nu mai borī moldovenii.

Ion Basescul
10-01-2020, 03:03 PM
Asta pentru că tu te identifici ca rumīnoid, mie ca moldovan mă deranjează. Eu te rog frumos, nu mai borī moldovenii.

Eu is sigur ca majoritatea moldovenilor nu-s autisti.

Ion Basescul
10-01-2020, 03:12 PM
From Chisinau (Ukrainian and Jewish mix)

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N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan


22.65
31.64
13.12
5.13
21.19
2.28
0
1.44
2.24
0
0
0.09
0.22

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Compared to a 2/4 Russian, 1/4 Moldovan/Romanian and 1/4 Jewish

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N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan


24.20
34.21
14.76
5.73
15.71
0.68
2.65
0.52
1.54
0
0
0
0

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<tbody>
Distance to:
Chisinau_ind


6.82247023
Pomak_Plovdiv


7.74417200
Serb_B&H_Herzegovina


8.24380980
Serb_Serbia_South&East


8.48469210
Romania_Moldavia_North


8.49279106
Romania_Maramures


8.50239378
Moldova_average


8.61359391
Moldova_Centre


8.74822839
Serb_Serbia_Vojvodina


8.75460450
Serb_Serbia


8.89403171
Serb


9.03235850
Croat_B&H_Herzegovina


9.03634882
Serb_Serbia_West&Central


9.04463377
Croat_Istria_&_Kvarner


9.06225138
Bosniak


9.12664232
Bosniak_Sarajevo


9.13830947
Serb_Croatia_Lika


9.14039933
Bulgaria_Northwestern


9.32978564
Serb_B&H


9.36963713
Serb_Croatia


9.44323038
Serb_Croatia_Kordun&Banija


9.53353030
Serb_B&H_Bosnia_proper


9.59910933
Croat_B&H


9.61755166
Romania_Moldavia_South


9.62373109
Serb_Croatia_Dalmatia


9.64991710
Croat_B&H_Bosnia

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<tbody>
Distance to:
Chisinau_ind


8.61359391
Moldova_Centre


10.44431903
Moldova_South


11.35435159
Moldova_North


12.82306906
Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk


13.91399296
Moldova_South_Gagauzia


15.85208504
Moldova_Bulgarian


17.98628644
Moldova_Ukrainian


19.72761263
Ukrainian_Lviv


20.45938415
Ukrainian


25.31424303
Russian_Smolensk


28.70110102
Crimean_Tatar


29.22227062
Moldova_Jewish


29.43600177
Romania_Dobruja-Tatar


31.46243921
Russian_Pinega


36.26812099
Moldova_Roma

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Target: Chisinau_ind
Distance: 4.6796% / 4.67962781 | ADC: 0.25x
71.8 Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk
28.2 Moldova_Jewish

-Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk
Target: Chisinau_ind
Distance: 4.7822% / 4.78215501 | ADC: 0.25x
63.2 Moldova_Ukrainian
36.8 Moldova_Jewish


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Distance to:
Chisinau_ind


7.20500520
Moldova_Nisporeni


7.43976478
Moldova_Soldanesti


8.31163642
Moldova_Ialoveni


8.39306261
Moldova_Eurogenes


8.49829983
Moldova_Balti


8.83547395
Moldova_Cimislia


8.86631265
Moldova_AneniiNoi


8.99340314
Moldova_Floresti


8.99824983
Moldova_Causeni


9.37019744
Moldova_Ungheni


9.39636632
Moldova_Hincesti


9.58402316
Moldova_Chisinau


10.11024233
Moldova_Falesti


10.52719811
Moldova_Briceni


10.55288112
Moldova_Calarasi


10.88141994
Moldova_Ocnita


11.01701411
Moldova_Straseni


11.55260144
Moldova_Telenesti


11.61751264
Moldova_StefanVoda


12.08427904
Moldova_Edinet


12.11577484
Moldova_Rezina


12.16277518
Moldova_Cahul


12.76440755
Moldova_Orhei


13.30001128
Moldova_1/2Moldovan_1/2EastSlavic


13.51438123
Moldova_Cantemir


13.88687150
Moldova_Transnistria


13.91399296
Moldova_Gagauzia


14.06744113
Moldova_Glodeni


15.85208504
Moldova_Bulgarian


17.98628644
Moldova_Ukrainian


29.22227062
Moldova_Jewish


36.26812099
Moldova_Roma


</tbody>

Leto
10-01-2020, 03:14 PM
deranjează
What does this mean? Looks like 'deranged' xD

Leto
10-01-2020, 03:18 PM
Can you post the Dodecad components for the Chisinau mix? Rather high Mongoloid for his background (not extraordinary though as even full Jews can score 1-2%).

WeirdLookingFellow
10-01-2020, 03:20 PM
What does this mean? Looks like 'deranged' xD

To bother

Ion Basescul
10-01-2020, 03:51 PM
Can you post the Dodecad components for the Chisinau mix? Rather high Mongoloid for his background (not extraordinary though as even full Jews can score 1-2%).

This person is from my project (http://geneticaromd.github.io/adn), so I don't have the GEDmatch kit.

Leto
10-01-2020, 04:16 PM
This person is from my project (http://geneticaromd.github.io/adn), so I don't have the GEDmatch kit.
That's a cool-ass project. Do you think the Chisinau average would be representative for the country as a whole and the Balti one for the Northern part?

Ion Basescul
10-01-2020, 04:20 PM
That's a cool-ass project. Do you think the Chisinau average would be representative for the country as a whole and the Balti one for the Northern part?

Chisinau is the only average where I included Slavic minorities (the version that you are seeing on the website has only ethnic Moldovans so far, but it will be updated to this). It's only normal for it to be like this, because it's an urban settlement.
Perhaps something like Ialoveni or Straseni, which are just on the outskirts of Chisinau are closer to the average.

Same goes for Balti. Being an urban settlement, perhaps the districts around it are more representative of the average there.

Ion Basescul
10-02-2020, 01:34 PM
I thought I would upload the David Reich Stefan Voda academic Moldovans from the village of Caplani (https://ro.wikipedia.org/wiki/C%C4%83plani,_%C8%98tefan_Vod%C4%83) in order to compare the results to those that I have in my database. Those are from Admixture Studio and usually between the two there are minor differences, but I am still curious.
In any case, I will post each result in a separate post. Don't take the Oracles too seriously, as the averages on GEDmatch are not the best.

MOL-005_Stefan_Voda

Admixture Studio
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N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan


21.01
25.42
16.62
11.92
18.51
4.11
0.58
0
0
0
0.50
0.51
0.82

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GEDmatch

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 25.52
2 North_Atlantic 20.62
3 East_Med 18.51
4 West_Med 16.63
5 West_Asian 12.16
6 Red_Sea 4.14
7 Sub-Saharan 0.76
8 South_Asian 0.61
9 Northeast_African 0.58
10 Oceanian 0.48


Single Population Sharing:


# Population (source) Distance
1 Bulgarian 3.46
2 Romanian 4.26
3 Serbian 7.12
4 Greek_Thessaly 10.86
5 Moldavian 11.19
6 Croatian 14.32
7 Hungarian 14.99
8 Tuscan 17.29
9 Italian_Abruzzo 17.39
10 Central_Greek 17.44
11 Austrian 18.09
12 North_Italian 18.14
13 East_Sicilian 18.58
14 West_Sicilian 18.97
15 East_German 19.81
16 Ashkenazi 20.15
17 Ukrainian_Lviv 20.4
18 South_Polish 21.51
19 Ukrainian 21.83
20 South_Italian 21.92


Mixed Mode Population Sharing:


# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 69.1% Croatian + 30.9% Cyprian @ 1.42
2 60.3% Central_Greek + 39.7% Russian_Smolensk @ 1.61
3 56.9% East_Sicilian + 43.1% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 1.66
4 64.9% Central_Greek + 35.1% Lithuanian @ 1.73
5 58.8% East_Sicilian + 41.2% Russian_Smolensk @ 1.9
6 58.5% Central_Greek + 41.5% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 1.91
7 52.8% South_Italian + 47.2% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 1.96
8 74.3% Moldavian + 25.7% Cyprian @ 2.01
9 54% Central_Greek + 46% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 2.01
10 60.9% Central_Greek + 39.1% Estonian_Polish @ 2.03
11 54.7% South_Italian + 45.3% Russian_Smolensk @ 2.08
12 52.4% East_Sicilian + 47.6% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 2.09
13 58.4% Central_Greek + 41.6% Southwest_Russian @ 2.13
14 63.4% East_Sicilian + 36.6% Lithuanian @ 2.15
15 56.8% East_Sicilian + 43.2% Southwest_Russian @ 2.19
16 58.9% Central_Greek + 41.1% Polish @ 2.25
17 62.7% Moldavian + 37.3% East_Sicilian @ 2.25
18 61.4% Central_Greek + 38.6% Belorussian @ 2.27
19 59.5% South_Italian + 40.5% Lithuanian @ 2.28
20 69.7% Greek_Thessaly + 30.3% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 2.33

Ion Basescul
10-02-2020, 01:36 PM
MOL-008_Stefan_Voda

Admixture Studio

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N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan


18.42
25.95
16.17
15.45
17.83
3.82
0.56
0.56
0
1.25
0
0
0

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GEDmatch



# Population Percent
1 Baltic 25.97
2 North_Atlantic 18.47
3 East_Med 17.64
4 West_Med 16.07
5 West_Asian 15.55
6 Red_Sea 3.89
7 Amerindian 1.33
8 East_Asian 0.59
9 South_Asian 0.49


Single Population Sharing:


# Population (source) Distance
1 Bulgarian 5.73
2 Romanian 6.83
3 Serbian 9.67
4 Moldavian 12
5 Greek_Thessaly 12.08
6 Croatian 15.43
7 Hungarian 16.68
8 Central_Greek 17.85
9 Italian_Abruzzo 18.28
10 East_Sicilian 19.29
11 Tuscan 19.43
12 Austrian 20.02
13 West_Sicilian 20.43
14 North_Italian 20.59
15 Ukrainian_Lviv 21.03
16 Ashkenazi 21.14
17 East_German 21.6
18 South_Polish 22.44
19 South_Italian 22.46
20 Ukrainian 22.5


Mixed Mode Population Sharing:


# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 75.4% Moldavian + 24.6% Assyrian @ 2.8
2 75.3% Moldavian + 24.7% Georgian_Jewish @ 2.9
3 76.4% Moldavian + 23.6% Kurdish_Jewish @ 2.97
4 70% Croatian + 30% Georgian_Jewish @ 2.97
5 70.2% Croatian + 29.8% Assyrian @ 2.99
6 75.8% Moldavian + 24.2% Armenian @ 3.27
7 73.9% Moldavian + 26.1% Lebanese_Muslim @ 3.32
8 70.6% Croatian + 29.4% Armenian @ 3.32
9 71.4% Croatian + 28.6% Kurdish_Jewish @ 3.4
10 73.1% Moldavian + 26.9% Cyprian @ 3.42
11 76.4% Moldavian + 23.6% Iranian_Jewish @ 3.46
12 76.9% Moldavian + 23.1% Lebanese_Christian @ 3.64
13 58.2% Central_Greek + 41.8% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 3.74
14 60.2% Ukrainian_Lviv + 39.8% Cyprian @ 3.75
15 74.4% Moldavian + 25.6% Syrian @ 3.76
16 68.6% Croatian + 31.4% Lebanese_Muslim @ 3.96
17 76.6% Moldavian + 23.4% Samaritan @ 3.97
18 64.9% Croatian + 35.1% Turkish @ 3.97
19 71.4% Croatian + 28.6% Iranian_Jewish @ 3.98
20 70.9% Moldavian + 29.1% Turkish @ 4.01

Ion Basescul
10-02-2020, 01:38 PM
MOL-015_Stefan_Voda

Admixture Studio
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N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan


18.27
19.97
19.01
15.32
19.44
4.68
0.12
1.50
0.68
0.54
0
0
0.48

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GEDmatch



# Population Percent
1 Baltic 19.94
2 East_Med 19.24
3 West_Med 18.8
4 North_Atlantic 18.56
5 West_Asian 15.33
6 Red_Sea 4.8
7 East_Asian 1.45
8 Siberian 0.75
9 Amerindian 0.56
10 Sub-Saharan 0.47
11 South_Asian 0.09


Single Population Sharing:


# Population (source) Distance
1 Bulgarian 6.28
2 Greek_Thessaly 7.39
3 Romanian 8.08
4 Serbian 12.12
5 Central_Greek 12.49
6 Italian_Abruzzo 12.79
7 East_Sicilian 13.91
8 Tuscan 14.47
9 West_Sicilian 14.85
10 Moldavian 16.59
11 North_Italian 16.67
12 Ashkenazi 16.68
13 South_Italian 16.98
14 Croatian 19.97
15 Hungarian 20.07
16 Austrian 22.42
17 Sephardic_Jewish 22.69
18 Algerian_Jewish 22.8
19 Italian_Jewish 23.15
20 Portuguese 23.28


Mixed Mode Population Sharing:


# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 57.5% Central_Greek + 42.5% Moldavian @ 3.53
2 82.7% Bulgarian + 17.3% Turkish @ 3.7
3 68.4% Central_Greek + 31.6% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 3.78
4 71.6% Central_Greek + 28.4% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 3.94
5 87.1% Bulgarian + 12.9% Armenian @ 3.97
6 73.9% Central_Greek + 26.1% Kargopol_Russian @ 4
7 54.7% East_Sicilian + 45.3% Moldavian @ 4.03
8 87.1% Bulgarian + 12.9% Georgian_Jewish @ 4.04
9 74.2% Central_Greek + 25.8% Erzya @ 4.04
10 88.6% Bulgarian + 11.4% Georgian @ 4.05
11 50.6% Moldavian + 49.4% South_Italian @ 4.05
12 77.5% Romanian + 22.5% Turkish @ 4.07
13 85.6% Bulgarian + 14.4% Azeri @ 4.08
14 82.3% Romanian + 17.7% Georgian_Jewish @ 4.09
15 69.7% Central_Greek + 30.3% Ukrainian @ 4.11
16 89.4% Bulgarian + 10.6% Abhkasian @ 4.12
17 82.6% Romanian + 17.4% Armenian @ 4.13
18 73.1% Central_Greek + 26.9% Russian_Smolensk @ 4.14
19 87.8% Bulgarian + 12.2% Ossetian @ 4.15
20 86.1% Bulgarian + 13.9% Syrian @ 4.16

Ion Basescul
10-02-2020, 01:40 PM
MOL-024_Stefan_Voda

Admixture Studio
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N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan


19.84
23.81
19.67
11.16
19.93
3.16
0
0
1.21
0.29
0.52
0
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GEDmatch



# Population Percent
1 Baltic 23.78
2 East_Med 19.97
3 West_Med 19.71
4 North_Atlantic 19.64
5 West_Asian 11.47
6 Red_Sea 3
7 Siberian 1.21
8 Oceanian 0.59
9 Sub-Saharan 0.39
10 Amerindian 0.24


Single Population Sharing:


# Population (source) Distance
1 Bulgarian 2.9
2 Romanian 5.22
3 Greek_Thessaly 8.35
4 Serbian 9.06
5 Moldavian 13.52
6 Tuscan 15.11
7 Central_Greek 15.14
8 Italian_Abruzzo 15.47
9 North_Italian 16.32
10 East_Sicilian 16.42
11 West_Sicilian 16.63
12 Croatian 16.69
13 Hungarian 17.25
14 Ashkenazi 18.14
15 South_Italian 19.55
16 Austrian 20.02
17 East_German 21.78
18 Portuguese 22.46
19 Ukrainian_Lviv 22.9
20 French 22.99


Mixed Mode Population Sharing:


# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 95.5% Bulgarian + 4.5% Moroccan @ 2.44
2 62.5% Greek_Thessaly + 37.5% Moldavian @ 2.44
3 61.7% Central_Greek + 38.3% Ukrainian @ 2.45
4 96% Bulgarian + 4% Sardinian @ 2.47
5 95.7% Bulgarian + 4.3% Mozabite_Berber @ 2.5
6 95.7% Bulgarian + 4.3% Tunisian @ 2.52
7 95.9% Bulgarian + 4.1% Algerian @ 2.55
8 52.9% Moldavian + 47.1% Central_Greek @ 2.56
9 79.8% Greek_Thessaly + 20.2% Erzya @ 2.59
10 86.9% Bulgarian + 13.1% Greek_Thessaly @ 2.64
11 95.4% Bulgarian + 4.6% Algerian_Jewish @ 2.64
12 74.2% Greek_Thessaly + 25.8% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 2.65
13 96.9% Bulgarian + 3.1% Bedouin @ 2.66
14 75.2% Greek_Thessaly + 24.8% Ukrainian @ 2.67
15 96.4% Bulgarian + 3.6% Cyprian @ 2.68
16 97% Bulgarian + 3% Samaritan @ 2.68
17 93.7% Bulgarian + 6.3% East_Sicilian @ 2.68
18 97.2% Bulgarian + 2.8% Egyptian @ 2.69
19 93.4% Bulgarian + 6.6% Central_Greek @ 2.7
20 60.4% Central_Greek + 39.6% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 2.7

Ion Basescul
10-02-2020, 01:42 PM
MOL-058_Stefan_Voda

Admixture Studio
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N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan


22.08
23.51
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9.57
19.50
3.24
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0.34
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GEDmatch



# Population Percent
1 Baltic 23.41
2 North_Atlantic 22
3 West_Med 20.1
4 East_Med 19.39
5 West_Asian 9.67
6 Red_Sea 3.22
7 East_Asian 1.86
8 Siberian 0.26
9 Oceanian 0.09


Single Population Sharing:


# Population (source) Distance
1 Bulgarian 3.51
2 Romanian 4.53
3 Serbian 7.71
4 Greek_Thessaly 9.03
5 Moldavian 13.17
6 Tuscan 14.05
7 North_Italian 14.44
8 Italian_Abruzzo 15.65
9 Hungarian 15.92
10 Croatian 15.92
11 Central_Greek 16.02
12 West_Sicilian 16.55
13 East_Sicilian 17.15
14 Austrian 18.25
15 Ashkenazi 18.82
16 East_German 20.1
17 Portuguese 20.21
18 South_Italian 20.21
19 French 20.67
20 Spanish_Galicia 20.69


Mixed Mode Population Sharing:


# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 93.7% Bulgarian + 6.3% Sardinian @ 2.58
2 64.6% Greek_Thessaly + 35.4% Croatian @ 2.8
3 90.7% Bulgarian + 9.3% Spanish_Galicia @ 2.82
4 92.4% Bulgarian + 7.6% Southwest_French @ 2.87
5 73.2% Greek_Thessaly + 26.8% Ukrainian @ 2.88
6 92.4% Bulgarian + 7.6% Spanish_Cantabria @ 2.89
7 91.3% Bulgarian + 8.7% Spanish_Extremadura @ 2.9
8 87.8% Bulgarian + 12.2% North_Italian @ 2.91
9 92.3% Bulgarian + 7.7% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 2.92
10 91.9% Bulgarian + 8.1% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 2.92
11 93.2% Bulgarian + 6.8% Spanish_Aragon @ 2.93
12 91.2% Bulgarian + 8.8% Portuguese @ 2.93
13 92.1% Bulgarian + 7.9% Spanish_Andalucia @ 2.93
14 92% Bulgarian + 8% Spanish_Murcia @ 2.95
15 92.1% Bulgarian + 7.9% Spanish_Valencia @ 2.95
16 95.2% Bulgarian + 4.8% French_Basque @ 2.97
17 92.3% Bulgarian + 7.7% Spanish_Cataluna @ 3.02
18 72.3% Greek_Thessaly + 27.7% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 3.03
19 75.7% Greek_Thessaly + 24.3% Polish @ 3.03
20 73% Greek_Thessaly + 27% South_Polish @ 3.03

Ion Basescul
10-02-2020, 01:43 PM
MOL-064_Stefan_Voda

Admixture Studio
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N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan


16.91
24.06
20.61
12.07
23.58
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0.52
0
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0.45
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GEDmatch



# Population Percent
1 Baltic 23.74
2 East_Med 23.49
3 West_Med 20.52
4 North_Atlantic 17.35
5 West_Asian 12.08
6 Siberian 1.06
7 South_Asian 0.53
8 Northeast_African 0.52
9 Sub-Saharan 0.45
10 Oceanian 0.27


Single Population Sharing:


# Population (source) Distance
1 Bulgarian 5.79
2 Greek_Thessaly 7.97
3 Romanian 8.62
4 Serbian 12.5
5 Central_Greek 14.07
6 Italian_Abruzzo 15.38
7 East_Sicilian 15.47
8 Tuscan 15.97
9 West_Sicilian 16.25
10 Moldavian 16.46
11 Ashkenazi 16.64
12 North_Italian 18.04
13 South_Italian 18.3
14 Croatian 19.56
15 Hungarian 20.4
16 Algerian_Jewish 23.19
17 Austrian 23.36
18 Italian_Jewish 23.62
19 Sephardic_Jewish 24.12
20 Portuguese 24.98


Mixed Mode Population Sharing:


# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 89% Bulgarian + 11% Cyprian @ 4.67
2 91.9% Bulgarian + 8.1% Lebanese_Christian @ 4.88
3 88% Bulgarian + 12% Algerian_Jewish @ 4.89
4 91.7% Bulgarian + 8.3% Samaritan @ 4.91
5 84% Greek_Thessaly + 16% Erzya @ 4.93
6 84.3% Bulgarian + 15.7% Ashkenazi @ 4.97
7 68% Bulgarian + 32% Greek_Thessaly @ 5
8 92.3% Bulgarian + 7.7% Lebanese_Druze @ 5.04
9 82.3% Bulgarian + 17.7% Central_Greek @ 5.06
10 86.5% Bulgarian + 13.5% South_Italian @ 5.09
11 91.7% Bulgarian + 8.3% Lebanese_Muslim @ 5.09
12 92.6% Bulgarian + 7.4% Assyrian @ 5.1
13 89.5% Bulgarian + 10.5% Italian_Jewish @ 5.11
14 84.4% Bulgarian + 15.6% East_Sicilian @ 5.12
15 93.2% Bulgarian + 6.8% Kurdish_Jewish @ 5.16
16 93.2% Bulgarian + 6.8% Iranian_Jewish @ 5.17
17 82.6% Greek_Thessaly + 17.4% Southwest_Russian @ 5.18
18 91.2% Bulgarian + 8.8% Tunisian_Jewish @ 5.18
19 91.3% Bulgarian + 8.7% Libyan_Jewish @ 5.18
20 82.7% Greek_Thessaly + 17.3% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 5.19

Ion Basescul
10-02-2020, 01:44 PM
MOL-065_Stefan_Voda

Admixture Studio
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N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan


20.23
23.81
21.69
7.85
19.98
3.35
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2.91
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0.19
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GEDmatch



# Population Percent
1 Baltic 23.7
2 West_Med 21.88
3 East_Med 20.04
4 North_Atlantic 20.03
5 West_Asian 8
6 Red_Sea 3.23
7 Siberian 2.95
8 Oceanian 0.18


Single Population Sharing:


# Population (source) Distance
1 Bulgarian 5.96
2 Romanian 7.13
3 Greek_Thessaly 9.33
4 Serbian 9.96
5 Moldavian 14.41
6 Tuscan 14.59
7 North_Italian 15.26
8 Central_Greek 16.18
9 Italian_Abruzzo 16.44
10 West_Sicilian 16.71
11 East_Sicilian 17.17
12 Croatian 17.24
13 Hungarian 17.7
14 Ashkenazi 18.53
15 South_Italian 20.18
16 Austrian 20.21
17 Portuguese 21.15
18 Spanish_Galicia 21.58
19 East_German 21.85
20 Spanish_Extremadura 22.01


Mixed Mode Population Sharing:


# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 89.6% Bulgarian + 10.4% Sardinian @ 4.47
2 79.3% Greek_Thessaly + 20.7% Kargopol_Russian @ 4.86
3 75.1% Greek_Thessaly + 24.9% Ukrainian @ 4.89
4 81.3% Greek_Thessaly + 18.7% East_Finnish @ 4.91
5 78.9% Greek_Thessaly + 21.1% Estonian_Polish @ 5.01
6 74.4% Greek_Thessaly + 25.6% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 5.03
7 64.3% Moldavian + 35.7% Algerian_Jewish @ 5.06
8 81.3% Greek_Thessaly + 18.7% Estonian @ 5.07
9 80.1% Greek_Thessaly + 19.9% Erzya @ 5.1
10 63.3% Greek_Thessaly + 36.7% Moldavian @ 5.11
11 67.8% Greek_Thessaly + 32.2% Croatian @ 5.12
12 66.4% West_Sicilian + 33.6% Erzya @ 5.13
13 81.7% Greek_Thessaly + 18.3% Lithuanian @ 5.16
14 50.3% Ukrainian + 49.7% Algerian_Jewish @ 5.17
15 59.6% Croatian + 40.4% Algerian_Jewish @ 5.18
16 79.6% Greek_Thessaly + 20.4% Belorussian @ 5.21
17 77.9% Greek_Thessaly + 22.1% Polish @ 5.22
18 87.5% Romanian + 12.5% Sardinian @ 5.23
19 79% Greek_Thessaly + 21% Russian_Smolensk @ 5.23
20 81.5% Greek_Thessaly + 18.5% Finnish @ 5.27

Ion Basescul
10-02-2020, 01:46 PM
MOL-066_Stefan_Voda

Admixture Studio
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N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan


21.07
28.94
14.77
9.89
19.66
4.48
0.57
0.61
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GEDmatch



# Population Percent
1 Baltic 29.28
2 North_Atlantic 20.93
3 East_Med 19.59
4 West_Med 14.66
5 West_Asian 9.92
6 Red_Sea 4.57
7 East_Asian 0.59
8 South_Asian 0.46


Single Population Sharing:


# Population (source) Distance
1 Bulgarian 6.39
2 Romanian 6.43
3 Serbian 7.01
4 Moldavian 9.84
5 Croatian 12.42
6 Hungarian 13.7
7 Greek_Thessaly 13.89
8 Austrian 17.53
9 Ukrainian_Lviv 18.08
10 East_German 18.94
11 South_Polish 19.1
12 Ukrainian 19.31
13 Tuscan 20.22
14 Central_Greek 20.56
15 Italian_Abruzzo 20.65
16 North_Italian 20.81
17 Southwest_Russian 21.48
18 East_Sicilian 21.6
19 Ukrainian_Belgorod 21.7
20 West_Sicilian 22.03


Mixed Mode Population Sharing:


# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 60.6% Polish + 39.4% Cyprian @ 2.15
2 57.8% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 42.2% Italian_Jewish @ 2.33
3 76.9% Croatian + 23.1% Lebanese_Christian @ 2.35
4 67.5% South_Polish + 32.5% Samaritan @ 2.35
5 57.7% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 42.3% Algerian_Jewish @ 2.41
6 76.4% Croatian + 23.6% Samaritan @ 2.49
7 51.6% Ashkenazi + 48.4% Russian_Smolensk @ 2.51
8 50.6% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 49.4% Ashkenazi @ 2.54
9 67.3% Ukrainian + 32.7% Samaritan @ 2.55
10 68.2% South_Polish + 31.8% Lebanese_Christian @ 2.57
11 57.8% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 42.2% Sephardic_Jewish @ 2.61
12 57.5% East_Sicilian + 42.5% Lithuanian @ 2.61
13 54.5% Central_Greek + 45.5% Belorussian @ 2.64
14 67.9% Ukrainian + 32.1% Lebanese_Christian @ 2.64
15 50.1% Southwest_Russian + 49.9% East_Sicilian @ 2.66
16 64.4% South_Polish + 35.6% Cyprian @ 2.69
17 64.1% Ukrainian + 35.9% Cyprian @ 2.69
18 53.3% East_Sicilian + 46.7% Belorussian @ 2.7
19 58.3% Belorussian + 41.7% Cyprian @ 2.71
20 58.7% Central_Greek + 41.3% Lithuanian @ 2.73

Ion Basescul
10-02-2020, 01:47 PM
MOL-067_Stefan_Voda

Admixture Studio
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N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan


21.23
24.68
15.16
12.29
20.35
3.67
0
0
2.38
0
0.25
0
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GEDmatch



# Population Percent
1 Baltic 24.65
2 North_Atlantic 20.88
3 East_Med 20.72
4 West_Med 15.17
5 West_Asian 12.36
6 Red_Sea 3.59
7 Siberian 2.34
8 Oceanian 0.28
9 South_Asian 0.01


Single Population Sharing:


# Population (source) Distance
1 Bulgarian 3.79
2 Romanian 4.83
3 Serbian 8.05
4 Greek_Thessaly 10.2
5 Moldavian 12.7
6 Hungarian 15.83
7 Croatian 15.83
8 Italian_Abruzzo 16.38
9 Central_Greek 16.49
10 Tuscan 16.85
11 East_Sicilian 17.73
12 West_Sicilian 18.22
13 North_Italian 18.31
14 Ashkenazi 18.74
15 Austrian 19.1
16 South_Italian 20.95
17 East_German 20.95
18 Ukrainian_Lviv 21.73
19 South_Polish 22.65
20 West_German 22.79


Mixed Mode Population Sharing:


# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 60.7% Central_Greek + 39.3% Southwest_Russian @ 2.1
2 57.6% South_Polish + 42.4% Cyprian @ 2.21
3 54.8% South_Italian + 45.2% Southwest_Russian @ 2.29
4 66.9% Central_Greek + 33.1% East_Finnish @ 2.42
5 60.9% Central_Greek + 39.1% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 2.46
6 55% South_Italian + 45% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 2.48
7 64.6% Italian_Abruzzo + 35.4% Erzya @ 2.49
8 63.7% Central_Greek + 36.3% Belorussian @ 2.51
9 64% Central_Greek + 36% Kargopol_Russian @ 2.53
10 59% East_Sicilian + 41% Southwest_Russian @ 2.56
11 59.2% East_Sicilian + 40.8% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 2.68
12 63.3% Central_Greek + 36.7% Estonian_Polish @ 2.69
13 62.9% Central_Greek + 37.1% Russian_Smolensk @ 2.74
14 67.1% Central_Greek + 32.9% Lithuanian @ 2.75
15 66.8% Central_Greek + 33.2% Estonian @ 2.77
16 74.4% Moldavian + 25.6% Lebanese_Druze @ 2.77
17 64.5% Central_Greek + 35.5% Erzya @ 2.78
18 66.2% Croatian + 33.8% Cyprian @ 2.78
19 50% Southwest_Finnish + 50% Cyprian @ 2.85
20 66.5% Central_Greek + 33.5% Finnish @ 2.88

Ion Basescul
10-02-2020, 01:48 PM
MOL-069_Stefan_Voda

Admixture Studio
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N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan


26.39
24.34
17.44
13.21
12.41
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GEDmatch



# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 25.97
2 Baltic 24.48
3 West_Med 17.66
4 West_Asian 13.07
5 East_Med 12.74
6 Red_Sea 4.11
7 Oceanian 0.85
8 Siberian 0.6
9 East_Asian 0.42
10 Sub-Saharan 0.11


Single Population Sharing:


# Population (source) Distance
1 Serbian 5.39
2 Romanian 5.47
3 Bulgarian 7.69
4 Moldavian 9.63
5 Hungarian 11.44
6 Croatian 12.28
7 Austrian 13.16
8 Greek_Thessaly 14.67
9 East_German 15.1
10 North_Italian 16.33
11 West_German 16.86
12 French 17.47
13 Tuscan 17.67
14 South_Dutch 18.27
15 Ukrainian_Lviv 18.4
16 South_Polish 19.23
17 Italian_Abruzzo 19.36
18 Portuguese 19.71
19 Spanish_Galicia 19.87
20 Ukrainian 20.07


Mixed Mode Population Sharing:


# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 91.2% Serbian + 8.8% Ossetian @ 3.85
2 91% Serbian + 9% Balkar @ 4.03
3 90.7% Serbian + 9.3% Kabardin @ 4.03
4 92.5% Serbian + 7.5% Georgian @ 4.08
5 91.6% Serbian + 8.4% North_Ossetian @ 4.09
6 51.3% Ukrainian_Lviv + 48.7% Italian_Abruzzo @ 4.13
7 91.5% Serbian + 8.5% Adygei @ 4.15
8 93.1% Serbian + 6.9% Abhkasian @ 4.16
9 91.2% Serbian + 8.8% Chechen @ 4.2
10 68.6% Moldavian + 31.4% Italian_Abruzzo @ 4.24
11 94.3% Serbian + 5.7% Balochi @ 4.28
12 94.4% Serbian + 5.6% Brahui @ 4.29
13 62.1% Croatian + 37.9% Italian_Abruzzo @ 4.3
14 91.2% Serbian + 8.8% Kumyk @ 4.32
15 66.6% Moldavian + 33.4% Tuscan @ 4.38
16 91.8% Serbian + 8.2% Tabassaran @ 4.38
17 94.4% Serbian + 5.6% Makrani @ 4.39
18 92.2% Serbian + 7.8% Lezgin @ 4.43
19 91.5% Serbian + 8.5% Nogay @ 4.55
20 54.2% Italian_Abruzzo + 45.8% Polish @ 4.56

Leto
10-02-2020, 01:53 PM
Basically the least Slavic people in Moldova. Pure Vlachs.

Ion Basescul
10-02-2020, 02:06 PM
That's it, overall they arrive at pretty much the same average, so the difference between the two genome analysis platforms is minimal.

Admixture Studio
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N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan


MOL-005_Stefan_Voda
21.01
25.42
16.62
11.92
18.51
4.11
0.58
0
0
0
0.50
0.51
0.82


MOL-008_Stefan_Voda
18.42
25.95
16.17
15.45
17.83
3.82
0.56
0.56
0
1.25
0
0
0


MOL-015_Stefan_Voda
18.27
19.97
19.01
15.32
19.44
4.68
0.12
1.50
0.68
0.54
0
0
0.48


MOL-024_Stefan_Voda
19.84
23.81
19.67
11.16
19.93
3.16
0
0
1.21
0.29
0.52
0
0.40


MOL-058_Stefan_Voda
22.08
23.51
19.95
9.57
19.50
3.24
0
1.74
0.34
0
0.08
0
0


MOL-064_Stefan_Voda
16.91
24.06
20.61
12.07
23.58
0
0.52
0
1.03
0
0.29
0.45
0.50


MOL-065_Stefan_Voda
20.23
23.81
21.69
7.85
19.98
3.35
0
0
2.91
0
0.19
0
0


MOL-066_Stefan_Voda
21.07
28.94
14.77
9.89
19.66
4.48
0.57
0.61
0
0
0
0
0


MOL-067_Stefan_Voda
21.23
24.68
15.16
12.29
20.35
3.67
0
0
2.38
0
0.25
0
0


MOL-069_Stefan_Voda
26.39
24.34
17.44
13.21
12.41
4.17
0
0.31
0.71
0
0.89
0
0.12

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Average village of Caplani
20.55
24.45
18.11
11.87
19.12
3.47
0.24
0.47
0.93
0.21
0.27
0.10
0.23

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GEDmatch
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Name
N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan


MOL-005_Stefan_Voda
20.62
25.52
16.63
12.16
18.51
4.14
0.61
0
0
0
0.48
0.58
0.76


MOL-008_Stefan_Voda
18.47
25.97
16.07
15.55
17.64
3.89
0.49
0.59
0
1.33
0
0
0


MOL-015_Stefan_Voda
18.56
19.94
18.80
15.33
19.24
4.80
0.09
1.45
0.75
0.56
0
0
0.47


MOL-024_Stefan_Voda
19.64
23.78
19.71
11.47
19.97
3.00
0
0
1.21
0.24
0.59
0
0.39


MOL-058_Stefan_Voda
22.00
23.41
20.10
9.67
19.39
3.22
0
1.86
0.26
0.00
0.09
0
0


MOL-064_Stefan_Voda
17.35
23.74
20.52
12.08
23.49
0
0.53
0
1.06
0
0.27
0.52
0.45


MOL-065_Stefan_Voda
20.03
23.70
21.88
8.00
20.04
3.23
0
0
2.95
0
0.18
0
0


MOL-066_Stefan_Voda
20.93
29.28
14.66
9.92
19.59
4.57
0.46
0.59
0
0
0
0
0


MOL-067_Stefan_Voda
20.88
24.65
15.17
12.36
20.72
3.59
0
0
2.34
0
0.28
0
0


MOL-069_Stefan_Voda
25.97
24.48
17.66
13.07
12.74
4.11
0
0.42
0.60
0
0.85
0
0.11

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Average village of Caplani
20.45
24.45
18.12
11.96
19.13
3.46
0.22
0.49
0.92
0.21
0.27
0.11
0.22

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People from Caplani, Stefan Voda


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WMsjhCxVHyk


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Jf06lCpAjs


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=InwplPVGL-k


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v3ER7vqsBDc

Ion Basescul
10-02-2020, 02:16 PM
I'll do the same for the Balti samples, though not soon, since uploading 32 kits to GEDmatch will take a while.

Ion Basescul
10-14-2020, 07:08 PM
From Iasi (Romania's Moldavia)

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N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan


22.18
29.43
15.58
8.53
18.01
0.20
2.99
0
1.79
0.36
0.94
0
0

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Compared to others from Iasi

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N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan


19.78
25.27
16.76
13.97
13.46
3.11
3.80
1.10
0.58
1.21
0.28
0.67
0


28.67
29.30
14.20
10.23
14.22
0
0.12
1.51
0
0.75
0.79
0.21
0


20.77
30.57
15.51
11.77
12.12
3.48
2.53
0
1.45
0.35
1.46
0
0


21.55
33.35
16.78
7.05
17.78
0.86
0
1.07
0.11
0.76
0
0
0.69


25.87
26.84
16.97
10.82
15.72
1.10
0.45
0.17
0.89
0
0.85
0
0.32


23.47
21.46
16.35
9.42
19.46
4.83
0.78
1.14
2.38
0
0.52
0
0.19


27.56
28.87
11.97
7.40
17.56
0
2.72
0
2.26
0.96
0.20
0.42
0.08


24.97
24.41
19.71
10.78
13.32
3.16
0
2.38
0.77
0.50
0
0
0


23.48
28.95
17.21
10.44
13.88
3.45
0
1.27
1.19
0
0.14
0
0


22.25
28.36
18.26
9.25
15.17
2.56
0.39
2.70
0
0.92
0.09
0
0


25.57
32.02
16.18
8.64
11.89
1.89
0.18
1.76
0
0.61
0
0.52
0.75

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Distance to:
Iasi_ind


4.17146257
Serb_Serbia_South&East


4.50978935
Moldova_average


4.52421264
Serb_B&H_Herzegovina


4.66034333
Romania_Maramures


4.69102334
Moldova_Centre


4.95920357
Serb_Serbia


5.04519573
Serb


5.04875232
Serb


5.22675808
Serb_Serbia_West&Central


5.29512984
Romania_Moldavia_South


5.30947267
Romania_Moldavia_North


5.34552149
Serb_Croatia_Lika


5.37374171
Serb_Croatia_Kordun&Banija


5.40015741
Serb_Croatia


5.40096288
Serb_B&H_Krajina


5.44609034
Romania_average


5.45970695
Serb_Serbia_Vojvodina


5.58489033
Bulgaria_Northwestern


5.61485530
Serb_B&H


5.69279369
Romania_Banat


5.77981834
Romania_Transylvania


5.88329839
Romania_Crisana


6.04503929
Bosniak


6.08657539
Serb_Croatia_Dalmatia


6.34772400
Pomak_Plovdiv


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<tbody>
Distance to:
Iasi_ind


4.66034333
Romania_Maramures


5.29512984
Romania_Moldova_Sud


5.30947267
Romania_Moldova_Nord


5.69279369
Romania_Banat


5.77981834
Romania_Transilvania


5.88329839
Romania_Crisana


6.36237377
Romania_Moldova_Csango


6.44057451
Romania_Oltenia


6.75305857
Romania_Dobrogea


6.98002865
Romania_Muntenia


8.01041822
Bulgarian


8.66934591
Romania_Transilvania_Szekely


8.81329729
Romania_Transilvania_Hungarian


11.63223968
Aromanian_North-Macedonia-Highlander


12.67016574
Aromanian_North-Macedonia


12.69640894
Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk


16.80731686
Aromanian_Central-Macedonia


19.08577481
Ukrainian_Lviv


26.47474835
Crimean_Tatar


28.14692701
Romania_Dobruja_Tatar


29.47385282
Romania_Jewish


31.93694569
Romania_Roma


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Target: Iasi_ind
Distance: 2.9951% / 2.99510524 | ADC: 0.25x
55.0 Romania_Dobrogea
30.6 Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk
8.8 Romania_Moldova_Nord
5.6 Romania_Roma

-Dobrogea, Ukrainian
Target: Iasi_ind
Distance: 3.6884% / 3.68843388 | ADC: 0.25x
47.2 Romania_Maramures
41.8 Romania_Moldova_Nord
5.0 Romania_Roma
4.0 Romania_Jewish
2.0 Romania_Banat


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Distance to:
Iasi_ind


4.81951242
Romania_Moldavia_Iasi


4.87787864
Romania_Moldavia_Bacau


5.06987179
Romania_Moldavia_Botosani


5.45869948
Romania_Moldavia_Neamt


6.01468204
Romania_Moldavia_Vaslui


6.52763357
Romania_Moldavia_Galati


6.54661745
Romania_Moldavia_Vrancea


6.72159207
Romania_Moldavia_Suceava


7.97791953
Romania_Moldavia_Csango


11.07754485
Romania_Moldavia_Ukrainian


29.47385282
Romania_Moldavia_Jewish


31.93694569
Romania_Roma

</tbody>

Ion Basescul
10-14-2020, 07:19 PM
1/2 Botosani, 1/2 Iasi (Romanian Jewish)

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N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan


18.59
6.61
18.40
9.33
38.11
5.18
0.56
0.14
0
1.29
0.60
0.76
0.43

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Compared to other Jews from Romania's Moldavia (red) and Republic of Moldova (blue)

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N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan


16.27
7.06
19.37
10.83
35.39
5.99
1.49
1.10
0.80
0
0.62
1.08
0


21.04
5.53
20.1
9.48
34.12
5.91
0
0.25
1.45
0.29
0
1.83
0


17.12
8.54
16.54
11.62
36.19
6.50
0.62
0
1.03
0.54
0.96
0
0.34


16.21
5.25
17.99
11.64
37.23
7.55
0
0.11
1.59
0
0.50
1.94
0


15.35
7.92
16.04
11.22
38.35
7.75
0
0.81
0.30
0
0.88
1.37
0


18.03
9.27
18.63
10.26
34.22
4.58
0
2.06
0
0
0.70
2.25
0


12.70
12.29
18.18
11.81
36.58
6.51
0.11
1.53
0.15
0
0
0.14
0


17.50
9.66
16.26
12.38
35.96
5.50
0.06
1.30
0
0
0.71
0.61
0.08


17.24
9.53
17.03
11.41
34.87
5.55
0
1.27
0.58
0
0.70
1.81
0


14.22
10.34
18.13
11.65
35.58
6.98
0
1.52
0
0.36
0
1.22
0

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<tbody>
Distance to:
Iasi_Botosani_Jewish_ind


6.29637991
Ashkenazi


6.36726001
Italian_Jewish


7.36453665
Moroccan_Jew


8.09150789
Sephardic_Jewish


8.96334201
Algerian_Jewish


9.02069842
IT_Calabria_citra


9.03404671
Malta


9.05927149
IT_Calabria


9.07876644
IT_Calabria_ultra


9.87292257
IT_Campania


10.38166172
Sicily


10.60667714
IT_Sannio


10.63709547
IT_Molise


10.69506896
IT_Salento


10.87338034
IT_Abruzzo


10.88928372
Greek_Symi_Island


10.90005963
Greek_North_Aegean


11.04151258
IT_Apulia


11.28289413
Tunisian_Jewish


11.29842909
IT_Lucania


11.32139567
IT_Basilicata


11.64284330
IT_Puglia


11.75190623
Greek_Crete


11.97025898
Greek_Cyclades


12.09679296
Greek_Andros_Island

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Ion Basescul
10-14-2020, 08:32 PM
From Iasi (Romania's Moldavia)

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N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan


28.33
26.91
14.13
10.44
14.83
1.24
2.53
0
0.96
0.33
0
0
0.30

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Compared to others from Iasi

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N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan


19.78
25.27
16.76
13.97
13.46
3.11
3.80
1.10
0.58
1.21
0.28
0.67
0


28.67
29.30
14.20
10.23
14.22
0
0.12
1.51
0
0.75
0.79
0.21
0


20.77
30.57
15.51
11.77
12.12
3.48
2.53
0
1.45
0.35
1.46
0
0


21.55
33.35
16.78
7.05
17.78
0.86
0
1.07
0.11
0.76
0
0
0.69


25.87
26.84
16.97
10.82
15.72
1.10
0.45
0.17
0.89
0
0.85
0
0.32


23.47
21.46
16.35
9.42
19.46
4.83
0.78
1.14
2.38
0
0.52
0
0.19


27.56
28.87
11.97
7.40
17.56
0
2.72
0
2.26
0.96
0.20
0.42
0.08


24.97
24.41
19.71
10.78
13.32
3.16
0
2.38
0.77
0.50
0
0
0


23.48
28.95
17.21
10.44
13.88
3.45
0
1.27
1.19
0
0.14
0
0


22.25
28.36
18.26
9.25
15.17
2.56
0.39
2.70
0
0.92
0.09
0
0


25.57
32.02
16.18
8.64
11.89
1.89
0.18
1.76
0
0.61
0
0.52
0.75


22.18
29.43
15.58
8.53
18.01
0.20
2.99
0
1.79
0.36
0.94
0
0

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<tbody>
Distance to:
Iasi_ind


4.25894353
Hungarian_Szekely


4.51948006
Serb_Croatia_Dalmatia


4.99428674
Hungarian_Transylvania


5.12392428
Hungarian_Csango


5.44944034
Serb_Croatia


5.47884112
Serb_Serbia_Vojvodina


5.55680664
Romania_Crisana


5.73428287
Serb_Croatia_Kordun&Banija


5.77246914
Serb


5.87801837
Serb_Croatia_Lika


5.90061861
Serb


5.90923007
Romania_Moldavia_North


5.93656466
Serb_Serbia


5.96280974
Romania_Maramures


5.99062601
Bosniak


5.99166922
Romania_Moldavia_South


6.06096527
Serb_Serbia_West&Central


6.09412012
Croat_Croatia_Dalmatia


6.10140967
Romania_Transylvania


6.21833579
Moldova_average


6.25558950
Serb_B&H_Bosnia_proper


6.41491231
Serb_B&H


6.42267078
Croat_B&H_West_Bosnia


6.46416275
Moldova_Centre


6.49916918
Serb_Serbia_South&East


</tbody>


<tbody>
Distance to:
Iasi_ind


4.16600964
Romania_Transilvania_Szekely


4.67160572
Romania_Moldova_Csango


4.92856781
Romania_Transilvania_Hungarian


5.55680664
Romania_Crisana


5.90923007
Romania_Moldova_Nord


5.96280974
Romania_Maramures


5.99166922
Romania_Moldova_Sud


6.10140967
Romania_Transilvania


7.37052915
Romania_Oltenia


7.97687909
Romania_Banat


9.01184221
Romania_Muntenia


9.36267590
Romania_Dobrogea


10.14995074
Bulgarian


13.09674769
Aromanian_North-Macedonia


13.21862701
Aromanian_North-Macedonia-Highlander


13.34792493
Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk


17.99991667
Aromanian_Central-Macedonia


18.28264478
Ukrainian_Lviv


27.13422931
Crimean_Tatar


29.42853037
Romania_Dobruja_Tatar


31.50854170
Romania_Jewish


33.21040500
Romania_Roma


</tbody>

Target: Iasi_ind
Distance: 3.0610% / 3.06102287 | ADC: 0.25x
85.0 Romania_Transilvania_Szekely
10.4 Bulgarian
4.6 Romania_Roma

-Hungarians
Target: Iasi_ind
Distance: 4.9267% / 4.92668597 | ADC: 0.25x
60.4 Romania_Crisana
32.0 Romania_Moldova_Nord
4.0 Ukrainian_Lviv
3.6 Romania_Roma


<tbody>
Distance to:
Iasi_ind


4.13493652
Romania_Moldavia_Vaslui


5.11989258
Romania_Moldavia_Csango


5.13982490
Romania_Moldavia_Iasi


5.40365617
Romania_Moldavia_Neamt


6.56307855
Romania_Moldavia_Bacau


6.66078824
Romania_Moldavia_Suceava


6.71999256
Romania_Moldavia_Botosani


7.48942588
Romania_Moldavia_Galati


7.97109152
Romania_Moldavia_Vrancea


8.91739312
Romania_Moldavia_3/4Romanian_1/4Roma


10.37379873
Romania_Moldavia_Ukrainian


31.50854170
Romania_Moldavia_Jewish


33.21040500
Romania_Roma

</tbody>

Ion Basescul
10-16-2020, 11:48 AM
Interesting map about the ethnic composition of Southern Moldova in 1907. The Caplani village in Stefan Voda was fully ethnically Moldovan/Romanian even then. The same applied to my mom's village adjacent to Cahul from the South.

https://etnoistorie.files.wordpress.com/2010/09/budjak_190713.png

Jana
10-16-2020, 11:59 AM
MOL-069_Stefan_Voda

Admixture Studio
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N_Atlantic
Baltic
West_Med
West_Asian
East_Med
Red_Sea
South_Asian
East_Asian
Siberian
Amerindian
Oceanian
NE_African
Sub-Saharan


26.39
24.34
17.44
13.21
12.41
4.17
0
0.31
0.71
0
0.89
0
0.12

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GEDmatch



# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 25.97
2 Baltic 24.48
3 West_Med 17.66
4 West_Asian 13.07
5 East_Med 12.74
6 Red_Sea 4.11
7 Oceanian 0.85
8 Siberian 0.6
9 East_Asian 0.42
10 Sub-Saharan 0.11


Single Population Sharing:


# Population (source) Distance
1 Serbian 5.39
2 Romanian 5.47
3 Bulgarian 7.69
4 Moldavian 9.63
5 Hungarian 11.44
6 Croatian 12.28
7 Austrian 13.16
8 Greek_Thessaly 14.67
9 East_German 15.1
10 North_Italian 16.33
11 West_German 16.86
12 French 17.47
13 Tuscan 17.67
14 South_Dutch 18.27
15 Ukrainian_Lviv 18.4
16 South_Polish 19.23
17 Italian_Abruzzo 19.36
18 Portuguese 19.71
19 Spanish_Galicia 19.87
20 Ukrainian 20.07


Mixed Mode Population Sharing:


# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 91.2% Serbian + 8.8% Ossetian @ 3.85
2 91% Serbian + 9% Balkar @ 4.03
3 90.7% Serbian + 9.3% Kabardin @ 4.03
4 92.5% Serbian + 7.5% Georgian @ 4.08
5 91.6% Serbian + 8.4% North_Ossetian @ 4.09
6 51.3% Ukrainian_Lviv + 48.7% Italian_Abruzzo @ 4.13
7 91.5% Serbian + 8.5% Adygei @ 4.15
8 93.1% Serbian + 6.9% Abhkasian @ 4.16
9 91.2% Serbian + 8.8% Chechen @ 4.2
10 68.6% Moldavian + 31.4% Italian_Abruzzo @ 4.24
11 94.3% Serbian + 5.7% Balochi @ 4.28
12 94.4% Serbian + 5.6% Brahui @ 4.29
13 62.1% Croatian + 37.9% Italian_Abruzzo @ 4.3
14 91.2% Serbian + 8.8% Kumyk @ 4.32
15 66.6% Moldavian + 33.4% Tuscan @ 4.38
16 91.8% Serbian + 8.2% Tabassaran @ 4.38
17 94.4% Serbian + 5.6% Makrani @ 4.39
18 92.2% Serbian + 7.8% Lezgin @ 4.43
19 91.5% Serbian + 8.5% Nogay @ 4.55
20 54.2% Italian_Abruzzo + 45.8% Polish @ 4.56

Not very southern like other samples from there.

Jana
10-16-2020, 12:02 PM
Basically the least Slavic people in Moldova. Pure Vlachs.

No. Pure Vlachs don't exist. Even Aromanians have significant Slavic admixture.

Ion Basescul
10-16-2020, 12:04 PM
A nice visualisation of all the ethnicities from villages, towns and cities in Republic of Moldova, based on the 2004 census. The central region is the most homogeneously Moldovan/Romanian, while both the North and South are heavily mixed and probably assimilated. From North to Centre and South, most villages are ethnically Moldovan/Romanian along the rivers, Prut in the West and Dniester in the East.
When you hear someone claim that Moldovans from Romanian Moldavia are mixed with Wallachians (few if any migrate from the South or West into Moldavia), don't forget to quote this.

Blue - Moldovan/Romanian
Green - Ukrainian
Pink - Russian
Dark Yellow - Gagauz
Orange - Bulgarian
Violet - Roma/Gypsy
Light Yellow - Jewish
Cyan - Polish
Grey - Other


https://etnoistorie.files.wordpress.com/2010/04/moldova_harta-etnica1.png

Ion Basescul
10-16-2020, 01:04 PM
I've edited the above image from the 2004 census to show where I imagine ethnic Moldovans/Romanians to be less likely admixed. Those in red shape with blue stripes/dots on top of it could be less admixed with ethnic minorities than others, due to living close to clusters of mostly Moldovan/Romanian villages. Ignore the towns of Orhei and Causeni, as I forgot to draw around them.

https://i.imgur.com/na2TY0o.jpeg

Benyzero
10-16-2020, 04:56 PM
No. Pure Vlachs don't exist. Even Aromanians have significant Slavic admixture.

It exists .Iam pure vlach

Ion Basescul
10-16-2020, 09:34 PM
It exists .Iam pure vlach

Not enough testosterone for pure Vlach, I am afraid.

Benyzero
10-16-2020, 09:38 PM
Not enough testosterone for pure Vlach, I am afraid.

No way, my testo is infinite

Peterski
10-19-2020, 07:54 AM
How do these Lemkos compare to your Romanians and Moldovans?:

Lemko1:

Eurogenes K13:

Population
North_Atlantic 30.39 Pct
Baltic 35.46 Pct
West_Med 13.40 Pct
West_Asian 9.55 Pct
East_Med 9.49 Pct
Red_Sea 0.97 Pct
South_Asian 0.45 Pct
East_Asian -
Siberian 0.21 Pct
Amerindian -
Oceanian 0.08 Pct
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -

Eurogenes K15:

Population
North_Sea 18.26 Pct
Atlantic 20.57 Pct
Baltic 25.73 Pct
Eastern_Euro 12.82 Pct
West_Med 8.16 Pct
West_Asian 8.42 Pct
East_Med 5.19 Pct
Red_Sea 0.85 Pct
South_Asian -
Southeast_Asian -
Siberian -
Amerindian -
Oceanian -
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -

Lemko2:

Eurogenes K13:

Population
North_Atlantic 26.67 Pct
Baltic 38.22 Pct
West_Med 16.97 Pct
West_Asian 8.25 Pct
East_Med 7.49 Pct
Red_Sea -
South_Asian -
East_Asian -
Siberian 1.95 Pct
Amerindian -
Oceanian 0.45 Pct
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -

Eurogenes K15:

Population
North_Sea 17.61 Pct
Atlantic 17.62 Pct
Baltic 25.56 Pct
Eastern_Euro 15.50 Pct
West_Med 12.16 Pct
West_Asian 7.70 Pct
East_Med 2.93 Pct
Red_Sea -
South_Asian -
Southeast_Asian -
Siberian 0.74 Pct
Amerindian -
Oceanian 0.17 Pct
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -

Lemko3:

Eurogenes K13:

Population
North_Atlantic 28.18 Pct
Baltic 37.37 Pct
West_Med 14.55 Pct
West_Asian 5.94 Pct
East_Med 10.63 Pct
Red_Sea -
South_Asian 0.70 Pct
East_Asian 1.00 Pct
Siberian -
Amerindian 1.03 Pct
Oceanian 0.58 Pct
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -

Eurogenes K15:

Population
North_Sea 17.59 Pct
Atlantic 19.52 Pct
Baltic 25.40 Pct
Eastern_Euro 14.25 Pct
West_Med 9.79 Pct
West_Asian 5.12 Pct
East_Med 6.64 Pct
Red_Sea -
South_Asian 0.30 Pct
Southeast_Asian 0.37 Pct
Siberian -
Amerindian 0.63 Pct
Oceanian 0.39 Pct
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -

Lemko4:

Eurogenes K13:

Population
North_Atlantic 25.72 Pct
Baltic 39.53 Pct
West_Med 14.62 Pct
West_Asian 5.61 Pct
East_Med 10.31 Pct
Red_Sea -
South_Asian 0.54 Pct
East_Asian 1.32 Pct
Siberian 0.06 Pct
Amerindian 1.35 Pct
Oceanian 0.95 Pct
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -

Eurogenes K15:

Population
North_Sea 13.63 Pct
Atlantic 19.27 Pct
Baltic 27.57 Pct
Eastern_Euro 16.01 Pct
West_Med 9.77 Pct
West_Asian 5.84 Pct
East_Med 5.54 Pct
Red_Sea -
South_Asian -
Southeast_Asian 0.66 Pct
Siberian -
Amerindian 0.94 Pct
Oceanian 0.75 Pct
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -

Peterski
10-19-2020, 07:59 AM
I've edited the above image from the 2004 census to show where I imagine ethnic Moldovans/Romanians to be less likely admixed.

In this forum thread you can find some old ethnic data/maps for Moldova (but unfortunately I don't remember on which page):

https://www.forum.hr/showthread.php?t=803200&page=185

WeirdLookingFellow
10-19-2020, 08:19 AM
In this forum thread you can find some old ethnic data/maps for Moldova (but unfortunately I don't remember on which page):

https://www.forum.hr/showthread.php?t=803200&page=185

A very nice map from 1910 showing the ethnic split in Bukowina.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/54/Bukovina1910ethnic.jpg


Ethnic pop split in counties from 1930:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/da/Romania_1930_ethnic_map_EN.png/1280px-Romania_1930_ethnic_map_EN.png?1603095496985

Ion Basescul
10-19-2020, 09:03 AM
How do these Lemkos compare to your Romanians and Moldovans?:



They score like some Moldovan Ukrainians, at least on K13.

Peterski
10-19-2020, 09:08 AM
They score like some Moldovan Ukrainians, at least on K13.

Moldovan Ukrainians are probably very similar to Ukrainians/Rusyns from Chernivtsi and Zakarpattia.

In Similitude Map Lemko average is closer even to Austria than to most of Romania, except Moldova:

https://i.imgur.com/c25rIzm.png