Classify the men in this assortment of old portraits. Can you guess what nationality they all share?

[Hjalmar]

https://i.imgur.com/IsmHZau.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/lURIYqG.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/KwDIXN5.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/XXZjW0l.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/vj7eg1I.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/aoP3fJk.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/HcJyq5u.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/7oqZMYY.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/NlEAsin.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/2jisByN.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/6TdzucB.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/HCaNNit.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/GIsyeji.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/TU1RWKf.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/3SNIEIW.png

[Immanenz]

Mostly Nordids and Baltids altered by other minor influences

[Hjalmar]

That would make a lot of sense. It would've been quite thought-provoking if they'd been something else. I feel the faces in these photos represent a variety of some distinct recognisable traits that I see in people around me, in my own family and even in myself. I've always found it interesting how a familiar face can take all these different shapes only within a certain perimeter before appearing foreign or out of place.

[Immanenz]

Are they Swedish? They look def. Scandinavic

[Hjalmar]

You are correct! May I ask if you could point out what the baltid traits among these individuals are? I'm still new to this.

[Immanenz]

You are correct! May I ask if you could point out what the baltid traits among these individuals are? I'm still new to this.


Nr. 4 is def. a textbook Baltid/East Baltid while 6 def. has East Baltid or Ladogan admix . Others like Nr. 1 , 3 and 5 are rather Nordid- Faelid admixed, some could have Baltic admix

Baltid is a specialized Cromagnoid- partially reduced, speculated by admix of Ladogan, or Eastern Huntergatherer/Western Hunter Gatherer mix
https://books.google.at/books?id=kCjHDwAAQBAJ&pg=PA399-IA17&lpg=PA399-IA17&dq=east+baltic+coon&source=bl&ots=dQaAOkgVgD&sig=ACfU3U0dOJ7LoyJaZejCgcWxD8c4p4WbBQ&hl=de&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjN0e-3_crqAhX7ysQBHVkdAFoQ6AEwAnoECAgQAQ#v=onepage&q=east%20baltic%20coon&f=false
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[Hjalmar]

Nr. 4 is def. a textbook Baltid/East Baltid while 6 def. has East Baltid or Ladogan admix . Others like Nr. 1 , 3 and 5 are rather Nordid- Faelid admixed, some could have Baltic admix

Baltid is a specialized Cromagnoid- partially reduced, speculated by admix of Ladogan, or Eastern Huntergatherer/Western Hunter Gatherer mix
https://books.google.at/books?id=kCjHDwAAQBAJ&pg=PA399-IA17&lpg=PA399-IA17&dq=east+baltic+coon&source=bl&ots=dQaAOkgVgD&sig=ACfU3U0dOJ7LoyJaZejCgcWxD8c4p4WbBQ&hl=de&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjN0e-3_crqAhX7ysQBHVkdAFoQ6AEwAnoECAgQAQ#v=onepage&q=east%20baltic%20coon&f=false
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Thank you for the explanation. Could you elaborate what about number 4 is textbook baltid/east baltid? When I look for examples the ones I mainly come across look like this:
https://i.imgur.com/sJ1ruP4.jpg
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=5808&stc=1&d=1284930298
https://i.imgur.com/RS5vslj.jpg

Maybe I've found only bad examples, but curiously I have a hard time seeing much resemblance honestly. Unlike example number 4 I would actually think that the vast majority of the examples I've seen of east baltids/baltids are Russian or baltic if I ever saw them on the street. While number 4 simply doesn't register as foreign looking to my eyes. Among baltid examples things like different shaped noses and plump lips seems common and immidiately stick out to me as foreign looking features. The eyes can be somewhat similar in only a few examples I found. While of course he also has his own different individual appearence, I wouldn't think it odd if he was father to someone who looks more like this man in the top photos here, who's appearantly also some type of cro magnon (taking into account that he is also an old man):
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/d6/8c/48/d68c481ebda167e4758bf2f6498ba2e4.jpg

From seeing examples of baltids one peculiar looking famous Swedish person comes to my mind: https://imengine.hall.infomaker.io/imengine/image.php?uuid=7a39cc3c-3ccc-4ab7-9866-df037392ec92&type=preview&source=false&function=hardcrop&width=1200&height=800&q=80
Bert Karlsson

[Immanenz]

...?

reason for this is Günther vs Coon. Günther hated East Baltids, even though 1/5 of Germany looks like this (therefor kind of a self-hater), but he portrayed tham as blond Semi Mongol Babyfaces. On the otherside Coon had a total different of East Baltics as being more CM like. He had however the ambigous term of Neo Danubian for suh infantil looking individuals. Lundmann has desribed Tavastid and Savolaxid as being sub-types of East Baltic. Remember all those old anthropologists has some sort of agenda- most portraying Alpine and East Baltid as being something very bad.

Do you see in fig. 4 any resembance with him or with Lev Tolstoy ?

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?70437-Classify-a-S%E1mi-man-who-look-like-%D6tzi

[Hjalmar]

I think I can see some Ötzi in him.