View Full Version : Chris596 FTDNA results! myOrigins + Ancient Origins
Chris596
07-14-2020, 11:14 AM
Alright, so the Jewish ancestry is indeed real in my case! I apologize for thinking that it was ,,faked'' . I was just questioning my Jewish ancestry because of all the things I've heard about Myheritage. But after I get Jewish from three different DNA testing companies, then it's not a coincidence for sure.
I think the Jewish ancestry came from my Hungarian side.
On the other hand, aside from detecting the Jewish ancestry, FTDNA is really much more accurate than Myheritage in my opinion. I'm sure I have West Asian ancestry too but I think it was absorbed into the ,,Southeast Europe'' category, this is my observation.
So here are the myOrigins and the Ancient Origins results:
https://i.imgur.com/LqZm692.png
Europe
Southeast Europe 54%
East Europe 24%
West and Central Europe 18%
Ashkenazi <2%
Asia
Northeast Asia <2%
Southeast Asia <1%
https://i.imgur.com/a0SCPCz.png
https://i.imgur.com/17yXuVt.png
That's all folks!
Voskos
07-14-2020, 11:18 AM
Interesting you seem to have traces of Ashkenazi after all, which isn't that unusual. And also your East Eurasian got detected accurately.
Chris596
07-14-2020, 11:20 AM
Interesting you seem to have traces of Ashkenazi after all, which isn't that unusual. And also your East Eurasian got detected accurately.
Yes, now I think I can confirm that I have Jewish ancestry with great certainty :)
Vojnik
07-14-2020, 11:20 AM
Congratulations on your results. I remember seeing the big Synagogue in Budapest. I heard Jews were a large community there in the past.
Chris596
07-14-2020, 11:32 AM
Congratulations on your results. I remember seeing the big Synagogue in Budapest. I heard Jews were a large community there in the past.
Thank you Vojnik! Yes, Jewish people have lived in many places in the past, around the whole country of Hungary, or if we go back even further, in the Habsburg Empire. But I think In my case this ancestry is even older because if I'm not wrong, my East Asian ancestry is even higher than the Jewish, so maybe that's older if you know what I mean (maybe I had a full Jewish ancestor hundreds of years ago). Somewhere along my ancestry line, it's there.
Nice, your breakdown looks pretty solid.
Chris596
07-14-2020, 11:41 AM
Nice, your breakdown looks pretty solid.
Thanks! I'm pretty sure the West and Central European also means Hungary in my case, because I don't really have proper Germanic ancestry (according to G25 and many more calculators).
An update is coming up in a few weeks, so I wouldn't put too much stock in that estimate.
Dean K
07-14-2020, 12:23 PM
Congratulations dude I told you (: you can also cheak by Origion 2.0 with location go to ur last pages of ur matches and u will see where ur ancestora came from even from NE Asia spesific places
An update is coming up in a few weeks, so I wouldn't put too much stock in that estimate.
Update is suposed to have Hungary as reference population which should make their breakdown worse. Let's hope it will be better than we expect.
Chris596
07-14-2020, 12:27 PM
An update is coming up in a few weeks, so I wouldn't put too much stock in that estimate.
Alright, but that means it will be even more accurate, right? I'm already satisfied because it's more specific than Myheritage :)
Congratulations dude �� I told you (: you can also cheak by Origion 2.0 with location go to ur last pages of ur matches and u will see where ur ancestora came from even from NE Asia spesific places
Thank you! :) Wow really? I'm gonna check it right now.
Mortimer
07-14-2020, 12:30 PM
Congratulations brother
17571imre
07-14-2020, 12:44 PM
congrats with your results Chris! i think this looks pretty accurate for you i like my FTDNA results too but im afraid after the update the results will be screwd over but we we will see.
my results and my mothers for comparison:
mine:
https://imgur.com/a/LAdilGj
mother:
https://imgur.com/a/vPaMsAq
my mothers British might be overestimated because she scores more then me but for the rest it looks good.
Chris596
07-14-2020, 12:47 PM
congrats with your results Chris! i think this looks pretty accurate for you i like my FTDNA results too but im afraid after the update the results will be screwd over but we we will see.
my results and my mothers for comparison:
mine:
https://imgur.com/a/LAdilGj
mother:
https://imgur.com/a/vPaMsAq
my mothers British might be overestimated because she scores more then me but for the rest it looks good.
Thank you Imre! Those are some interesting results from you and your mom! Let's see what will change after the update, but I think in my case there will be little changes, but we'll see! :thumb001:
Lucas
07-14-2020, 01:05 PM
Check in family finder matches if you have Jewish surnames at the first page of results?
Chris596
07-14-2020, 01:11 PM
Check in family finder matches if you have Jewish surnames at the first page of results?
I will! Unfortunately my matching results are still pending, I will probably see them in a few days.
Amazing! Nice results :o
Thank you Sora! :flower Teşekkürler!
Luke35
07-14-2020, 01:14 PM
Looks quite reasonable, and they picked up on your minor Asian.
Seems that Hungary is at the crossroads of their W and C European and E European categories.
I expect my 8% Asia Minor will get shifted to SE Europe in the update but we shall see.
So, for comparison with yours, here is my report:
https://i.imgur.com/s5N6wtW.png
Vojnik
07-14-2020, 01:18 PM
Mr. G. You are the Nato Alliance. :D
Chris596
07-14-2020, 01:23 PM
Looks quite reasonable, and they picked up on your minor Asian.
Seems that Hungary is at the crossroads of their W and C European and E European categories.
I expect my 8% Asia Minor will get shifted to SE Europe in the update but we shall see.
So, for comparison with yours, here is my report:
It looks pretty reasonable for you too! I'm curious what the upcoming update will bring, but we'll see. Here they didn't detect West Asian in my case but it's there I'm pretty sure.
In the ethno-cultural sense, Hungary was, and is a crossroad between Central-East and West Europe (and also Asia if we're at it) :) So that's true.
Duan
07-14-2020, 01:29 PM
Congratulation on your results, Chris! :)
Quite high value of southeast Europe, I would say.
Balkan stronk. :cool:
Vojnik
07-14-2020, 01:31 PM
Congratulation on your results, Chris! :)
Quite high value of southeast Europe, I would say.
Balkan stronk. :cool:
I personally could always see the Balkan in him.
Chris596
07-14-2020, 01:50 PM
Congratulation on your results, Chris! :)
Quite high value of southeast Europe, I would say.
Balkan stronk. :cool:
:D Thanks brother! Yes the Balkan is really stronk in me, I just tried that K36 coordinate thing and it puts me almost in Serbia lol
https://i.imgur.com/CNK3g9o.png
Chris596
07-14-2020, 04:10 PM
Bump
An update is coming up in a few weeks
What makes you think that?
Chris596
07-14-2020, 05:08 PM
What makes you think that?
A new update is coming soon, myOrigins 3.0 on FTDNA which will have much more samples and regions, so technically it will be more precise (this is what I think). This is why I opted in, pretty close to what I can get on 23andme in my opinion.
https://www.eupedia.com/forum/threads/40053-My-origins-3-0-is-very-soon
https://dna-explained.com/2020/02/28/sneak-preview-familytreednas-myorigins-version-3-0/
Rgvgjhvv
07-14-2020, 05:10 PM
Congratulations!
What makes you think that?
Well, wasn't it supposed to be coming up a couple of months ago?
Chris596
07-14-2020, 05:17 PM
Congratulations!
Thank you! Now, can I claim that Turkic ancestry? :cool: (just joking) xd
Chris596
07-14-2020, 05:22 PM
Well, wasn't it supposed to be coming up a couple of months ago?
Was it? Hmm, seems like every company likes to delay their updates (I'm waiting for that Myheritage summer update ever since).
A new update is coming soon, myOrigins 3.0 on FTDNA which will have much more samples and regions, so technically it will be more precise (this is what I think). This is why I opted in, pretty close to what I can get on 23andme in my opinion.
https://www.eupedia.com/forum/threads/40053-My-origins-3-0-is-very-soon
https://dna-explained.com/2020/02/28/sneak-preview-familytreednas-myorigins-version-3-0/
Nice their old categories made no sense
Chris596
07-14-2020, 07:08 PM
Congratulations dude �� I told you (: you can also cheak by Origion 2.0 with location go to ur last pages of ur matches and u will see where ur ancestora came from even from NE Asia spesific places
Okay now it's done! And wow! This is really cool, so interesting!
- I have one direct paternal ancestor from Siberia (near Krasnoyarsk); shared origin: is not shown, why?
- One direct paternal ancestor from the Caucasus and one from Armenia (Armenian name and everything); shared origin: East Europe
- One direct paternal and maternal ancestor from Russia, northeast of Moscow! (really interesting, remember my Russian matches from Myheritage, Leto? The surname is the same) shared origin: East Europe
- One direct paternal and maternal from Hungary; shared origin: East Europe and Southeast Europe
And many more, these are just examples.
Dean K
07-14-2020, 07:33 PM
Okay now it's done! And wow! This is really cool, so interesting!
- I have one direct paternal ancestor from Siberia (near Krasnoyarsk); shared origin: is not shown, why?
- One direct paternal ancestor from the Caucasus and one from Armenia (Armenian name and everything); shared origin: East Europe
- One direct paternal and maternal ancestor from Russia, northeast of Moscow! (really interesting, remember my Russian matches from Myheritage, Leto? The surname is the same) shared origin: East Europe
- One direct paternal and maternal from Hungary; shared origin: East Europe and Southeast Europe
And many more, these are just examples.
How many matches do u have ? Seems that those matches from your paternal Armenia Turkey region. And many Armenian/Georgians live in russia so maybe they share West asian with u. I think its not done if u have below 400 matches Ftdna is the oldest company they have many testers
Chris596
07-14-2020, 07:45 PM
How many matches do u have ? Seems that those matches from your paternal Armenia Turkey region. And many Armenian/Georgians live in russia so maybe they share West asian with u. I think its not done if u have below 400 matches Ftdna is the oldest company they have many testers
Hmm, it's possible. I have 465 matches right now, pretty slim compared to more than 2000 on Myheritage. But I really love this feature where you can check your ancestral places.
Ion Basescul
07-14-2020, 08:21 PM
Update is suposed to have Hungary as reference population which should make their breakdown worse. Let's hope it will be better than we expect.
If other calculators are anything to go by, my results will definitely get butchered by this.
Ion Basescul
07-14-2020, 08:27 PM
Looks quite reasonable, and they picked up on your minor Asian.
Seems that Hungary is at the crossroads of their W and C European and E European categories.
I expect my 8% Asia Minor will get shifted to SE Europe in the update but we shall see.
So, for comparison with yours, here is my report:
There is some minor bleeding between Middle Eastern and perhaps Southeast Euro components. I've seen it in quite a few cases on FTDNA. It also happens to me. But 3% Northeast Asian/Siberian should be accurate, as this is what I usually get on Eurogenes/Global 25 models.
So those up to 3% NE Asian/Siberian could be real for Chris.
https://i.imgur.com/lmfjFVd.png
https://i.imgur.com/HRKKhSO.png
Chris596
07-14-2020, 09:34 PM
Check in family finder matches if you have Jewish surnames at the first page of results?
Now I can confirm it, yes! My first matches are Hungarians, South Slavs, Poles and Jews (Schwartz, Goldstein, Rubenstein, etc.)
Chris596
07-14-2020, 09:41 PM
I also share 34 cM of DNA with a certain Nguyen. It's one of my closest matches but it's the first time I see a Vietnamese name among my DNA matches.
The vast majority of my matches (the ones who have a profile description) have ancestry from Ukraine, Poland, Romania, Belorussia and Russia)
lockdownboredom
07-14-2020, 11:34 PM
Nice. Which company do you think produced the most accurate result?
Chris596
07-14-2020, 11:42 PM
Nice. Which company do you think produced the most accurate result?
Thanks! I have experience only with Myheritage and FTDNA so far. Out of these two companies, I will say FTDNA is definitely better for me. Myheritage literally said that 95% of my ancestry is from the Balkans, they detected the Jewish and gave me some Scandinavian out of nothing and that's it lol (which is not really true as it turns out).
Soon there will be huge improvements at both FTDNA and Myheritage, so let's see what is going to change in the report. What I really like in FTDNA is that you can check your X-matches and see your shared ancestral places which doesn't exist at Myheritage as far as I know (or maybe you have to pay for it).
lockdownboredom
07-14-2020, 11:48 PM
Thanks! I have experience only with Myheritage and FTDNA so far. Out of these two companies, I will say FTDNA is definitely better for me. Myheritage literally said that 95% of my ancestry is from the Balkans, they detected the Jewish and gave me some Scandinavian out of nothing and that's it lol (which is not really true as it turns out).
Soon there will be huge improvements at both FTDNA and Myheritage, so let's see what is going to change in the report. What I really like in FTDNA is that you can check your X-matches and see your shared ancestral places which doesn't exist at Myheritage as far as I know (or maybe you have to pay for it).
Oh really, MyHeritigage is getting upgraded? Do you happen to know when?
Chris596
07-14-2020, 11:53 PM
Oh really, MyHeritigage is getting upgraded? Do you happen to know when?
Yes, they said we will receive an update sometimes this summer, it's the middle of July already, but no news so far, so I don’t know when it will be, unfortunately.
lockdownboredom
07-14-2020, 11:55 PM
Yes, they said we will receive an update sometimes this summer, it's the middle of July already, but no news so far, so I don’t know when it will be, unfortunately.
Cheers boss. Hope it's soon.
Chris596
07-15-2020, 12:10 PM
Bumpy-bumpy ride
:bump2:
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