4-way Western European model (K13)

[RyoHazuki]

Using some K13 coordinates of TA members from the other thread, here's a simple Vahaduo model.


Grace(Irish),52.04,25.27,9.81,7.25,1.77,1.5,0,0,0. 75,1.38,0.24,0,0
dududud_father(French_North),51.93,15.26,17.48,4.5 3,5.63,1.96,0.88,0.87,0,0,1.46,0,0
Mazik(Swedish),40.84,35.89,9.04,4.09,2.64,0,1.88,1 .31,3.25,0.15,0.71,0.21,0
Gallop(spanish),40.81,10,29.04,5.78,6.81,3.11,0,0, 1.32,0,0,2.34,0

[RyoHazuki]

Me:


Target: RyoHazuki(English+French)
Distance: 3.4775% / 3.47751982
58.8 dududud_father(French_North)
36.2 Grace(Irish)
5.0 Mazik(Swedish)

Distance to: RyoHazuki(English+French)
6.96106314 dududud_father(French_North)
8.47606630 Grace(Irish)
20.57752901 Mazik(Swedish)
21.15990076 gixajo_father_cousin(Spanish)

[gixajo]

Using some K13 coordinates of TA members from the other thread, here's a simple Vahaduo model.


Grace(Irish),52.04,25.27,9.81,7.25,1.77,1.5,0,0,0. 75,1.38,0.24,0,0
dududud_father(French_North),51.93,15.26,17.48,4.5 3,5.63,1.96,0.88,0.87,0,0,1.46,0,0
Mazik(Swedish),40.84,35.89,9.04,4.09,2.64,0,1.88,1 .31,3.25,0.15,0.71,0.21,0
gixajo_father_cousin(Spanish),45.99,9.31,28.93,0,1 0.61,2.23,0,0.83,0,0,0.52,1.33,0.25


Well, the cousin of my father is Half Southern Basque, so he is closer to my mother than to my father...

Distance to: gixajo_dad
9.46687911 gixajo_father_cousin(Spanish)
21.68805201 dududud_father(French_North)
31.92096333 Grace(Irish)
35.43163699 Mazik(Swedish)

Distance to: gixajo_mom
4.16049276 gixajo_father_cousin(Spanish)
15.63907606 dududud_father(French_North)
27.13323055 Grace(Irish)
33.32514666 Mazik(Swedish)

[gixajo]

Couldn´t you choose another Spaniard as reference?

It is quite absurd that I run it with a relative in the references ;)

[gixajo]

You need add some Balkan references, 90% of k13 fans are from Balkans not westerners.:D

[Luso]

You need add some Balkan references, 90% of k13 fans are from Balkans not westerners.:D

Should we make a G25 spreadsheet, or maybe a k15, or k36? I can start one.

[gixajo]

Should we make a G25 spreadsheet, or maybe a k15, or k36? I can start one.

The G25 would be very interesting, because gedmatch is ok, but quite inaccurate, but even I have trouble publishing my coordinates, and more my parent´s ones.

It bothers me even a little to see in this model those of my father's cousin, and they are from the k13...

[Luso]

The G25 would be very interesting, because gedmatch is ok, but quite inaccurate, but even I have trouble publishing my coordinates, and more my parent´s ones.

It bothers me even a little to see in this model those of my father's cousin, and they are from the k13...

Yeah, G25 can be a bit personal. I just made a K15 thread, you don't need to add any relatives or anything for obvious reasons. If there is little iberian samples for it I will add my siblings... but yeah

[RyoHazuki]

Should we make a G25 spreadsheet, or maybe a k15, or k36? I can start one.

I think someone's already started one.

[Luso]

I think someone's already started one.

Yeah defcon started a g25, I just started a K15 one.

[RyoHazuki]

The G25 would be very interesting, because gedmatch is ok, but quite inaccurate, but even I have trouble publishing my coordinates, and more my parent´s ones.

It bothers me even a little to see in this model those of my father's cousin, and they are from the k13...

If it bothers you I'll change, I immediately thought of you because of how representative of Iberia it is (from North to South)

[Luso]

btw:

Target: Luso
Distance: 7.9218% / 7.92182669
88.0 gixajo_father_cousin(Spanish)
12.0 Mazik(Swedish)

Distance to: Luso
8.97714877 gixajo_father_cousin(Spanish)
17.91925780 dududud_father(French_North)
27.88516631 Grace(Irish)
31.84309501 Mazik(Swedish)

[gixajo]

Yeah, G25 can be a bit personal. I just made a K15 thread, you don't need to add any relatives or anything for obvious reasons. If there is little iberian samples for it I will add my siblings... but yeah

With Iberians members I have not any problem to share anything, the problem is with those who are not Iberians :)

I shared my G25 (and my parents coordinates too) with at least 3 persons here, but I don´t like to see them be published here.

I would not have any problem if EVERYBODY here publishes their coordinates, it would be actually, very funny, especially for those who have not hidden anything and have showed all our results without being "made up" before posting them or simply avoiding publishing results in models that did not "suit them".

Edit:sorry....anybody no...everybody :rolleyes:

[gixajo]

If it bothers you I'll change, I immediately thought of you because of how representative of Iberia it is (from North to South)

It´s not me, it´s my father cousin, and i don´t know even if I had the right to post in this forum his coordinates, I did in the other thread simply to increase the number of Iberian references, because we were few, but here is is too protagonist. I would have even preferred that you put my coordinates before his.

And maybe Dududud´ s father being from Britanny, it´s more representative of British islands than France, but ask him better.

Probably Grace has not any problem with all this and she is very representative of Irish, I don´t know about the Swedish guy.

[RyoHazuki]

It´s not me, it´s my father cousin, and i don´t know even if I had the right to post in this forum his coordinates, I did in the other thread simply to increase the number of Iberian references, because we were few, but here is is too protagonist. I would have even preferred that you put my coordinates before his.

And maybe Dududud´ s father being from Britanny, it´s more representative of British islands than France, but ask him better.

Probably Grace has not any problem with all this and she is very representative of Irish, I don´t know about the Swedish guy.

I know it's not you literally, just that I thought of your family. I took it that the info if shared publicly on the forum it's free to use.
Is dududud's dad an actual Breton? His results aren't like any Breton I've seen, too southern shifted to be representative of British Isles and is really typical of average northern French people how I see it. He's half Iberian compared to Grace (most common middle ground France has is in between UK and Iberia).

[dududud]

I know it's not you literally, just that I thought of your family. I took it that the info if shared publicly on the forum it's free to use.
Is dududud's dad an actual Breton? His results aren't like any Breton I've seen, too southern shifted to be representative of British Isles and is really typical of average northern French people how I see it. He's half Iberian compared to Grace (most common middle ground France has is in between UK and Iberia).

He's not "half iberian", it's a modelization, nothing else. Northern French have more EEF than English or Irish.

And yes, he's native to Northern France.

[celticdragongod]

Distance to: CDG
4.39453069 Grace(Irish)
12.31880676 dududud_father(French_North)
14.69788760 Mazik(Swedish)
25.32682175 Gallop(spanish)

Target: CDG
Distance: 439.4531% / 4.39453069 | ADC: 2x
100.0 Grace(Irish)

Target: CDG
Distance: 439.4531% / 4.39453069 | ADC: 1x
100.0 Grace(Irish)

Target: CDG
Distance: 283.8313% / 2.83831281 | ADC: 0.5x
75.2 Grace(Irish)
13.4 dududud_father(French_North)
11.4 Mazik(Swedish)

Target: CDG
Distance: 220.1239% / 2.20123944 | ADC: 0.25x
58.8 Grace(Irish)
22.2 dududud_father(French_North)
19.0 Mazik(Swedish)

Target: CDG
Distance: 212.1897% / 2.12189704
51.4 Grace(Irish)
26.2 dududud_father(French_North)
22.4 Mazik(Swedish)

[RyoHazuki]

He's not "half iberian", it's a modelization, nothing else. Northern French have more EEF than English or Irish.

And yes, he's native to Northern France.

I know, I wasn't speaking literally; I was just speaking in hypothetical terms to illustrate the difference in shift between French like him and UK/Ireland.