Bulgarian GEDMatch + MyHeritage Please help me understand, so random

[mrblazhev]

MDLP K23b


# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 40.08
2 European_Hunters_Gatherers 29.52
3 European_Early_Farmers 15.92
4 Near_East 6.74
5 Ancestral_Altaic 3.16
6 Arctic 1.18
7 South_East_Asian 0.82
8 North_African 0.8
9 Melano_Polynesian 0.79
10 Paleo_Siberian 0.42
11 East_Siberian 0.26
12 Australoid 0.23
13 South_Central_Asian 0.08

Single population

1 Gagauz ( ) 3.86
2 Greek_Macedonia ( ) 6.8
3 Greek_Phokaia ( ) 7.94
4 Greek ( ) 8.23
5 Greek_Thessaloniki ( ) 8.4
6 Central_Greek ( ) 8.59
7 Romanian_Jew ( ) 8.73
8 Macedonian ( ) 9.03
9 Crimean_Tatar_Mountain ( ) 9.15
10 Greek_Peloponnesos ( ) 9.21
11 Greek_Athens ( ) 9.52
12 Greek_Thessaly ( ) 9.58
13 Albanian_Tirana ( ) 9.95
14 Bulgarian ( ) 10.11
15 Ashkenazi ( ) 10.33
16 Italian_South ( ) 10.72
17 Romanian ( ) 10.87
18 Cretan ( ) 11.02
19 Turk_Balikesir ( ) 11.12
20 Sicilian_Center ( ) 11.52

Mixed population
1 99.3% Gagauz ( ) + 0.7% Eskimo_Chaplin ( ) @ 3.79
2 99.3% Gagauz ( ) + 0.7% Eskimo_Sireniki ( ) @ 3.8
3 99.3% Gagauz ( ) + 0.7% Eskimo_Naukan ( ) @ 3.8
4 91.4% Gagauz ( ) + 8.6% Greek_Phokaia ( ) @ 3.8
5 98.2% Gagauz ( ) + 1.8% Yemenite_Jew ( ) @ 3.8
6 99.3% Gagauz ( ) + 0.7% Khant ( ) @ 3.81
7 99.3% Gagauz ( ) + 0.7% Tubalar ( ) @ 3.81
8 99.4% Gagauz ( ) + 0.6% Chukchi ( ) @ 3.81
9 99.4% Gagauz ( ) + 0.6% Chukchi_Sir ( ) @ 3.81
10 98.8% Gagauz ( ) + 1.2% Aleut ( ) @ 3.81
11 97.6% Gagauz ( ) + 2.4% Belarusian_Russian ( ) @ 3.81
12 97.6% Gagauz ( ) + 2.4% Mixed_East_Slav ( ) @ 3.81
13 99.3% Gagauz ( ) + 0.7% Mansi ( ) @ 3.81
14 98.9% Gagauz ( ) + 1.1% Udmurd ( ) @ 3.82
15 97.8% Gagauz ( ) + 2.2% Kuban_cossack ( ) @ 3.82
16 99.1% Gagauz ( ) + 0.9% Tlingit ( ) @ 3.82
17 98.6% Gagauz ( ) + 1.4% Tatar_Kryashen ( ) @ 3.82
18 99.3% Gagauz ( ) + 0.7% West_Greenland ( ) @ 3.82
19 98.8% Gagauz ( ) + 1.2% Komi ( ) @ 3.82
20 98.9% Gagauz ( ) + 1.1% Chuvash ( ) @ 3.82

MDLP K16 Modern Single population

1 Bulgarian (Bulgaria) 2.18
2 Bulgarian (Bulgaria) 2.78
3 Macedonian (Macedonia) 3.25
4 Montenegrian (Montenegro) 4.27
5 Serbian (Serbia) 4.57
6 Romanian (Apuseni) 4.99
7 Romanian (Gorj) 5.06
8 Gagauz (Gagauzia) 5.55
9 Moldavian (Molodva) 5.8
10 Serbian (Bosnia-Herzegovina) 6.28
11 Romanian (Romania) 6.46
12 Kosovar (Kosovo) 6.56
13 Bosnian (Bosnia-Herzegovina) 6.75
14 Croat (Bosnia-Herzegovina) 6.92
15 Italian (Friul) 7.65
16 Croat (Croatia) 8.1
17 Greek (Thessaloniki) 8.22
18 Albanian (Albania) 8.28
19 Greek (Greece) 8.74
20 Swiss (Switzerland) 9.09

Mixed population K16 modern

1 96.2% Bulgarian (Bulgaria) + 3.8% Pole (Poland) @ 2.08
2 96.4% Bulgarian (Bulgaria) + 3.6% Belarusian (Belarus) @ 2.08
3 97% Bulgarian (Bulgaria) + 3% Lithuanian (Lithuania) @ 2.08
4 95.5% Bulgarian (Bulgaria) + 4.5% Pole (Wroclaw) @ 2.08
5 96.8% Bulgarian (Bulgaria) + 3.2% Russians-West (WestRussian) @ 2.08
6 90.5% Bulgarian (Bulgaria) + 9.5% Serbian (Bosnia-Herzegovina) @ 2.09
7 95.7% Bulgarian (Bulgaria) + 4.3% Ukrainians_west (WestUkraine) @ 2.09
8 96.4% Bulgarian (Bulgaria) + 3.6% Ukrainians_east (EastUkraine) @ 2.09
9 95.7% Bulgarian (Bulgaria) + 4.3% Hungarian (WestUkraine) @ 2.09
10 57.6% Hungarian (Hungary) + 42.4% Greek (Greece) @ 2.09
11 97% Bulgarian (Bulgaria) + 3% Russian (CentralRussia) @ 2.09
12 97.5% Bulgarian (Bulgaria) + 2.5% Latvian_Cesis (Cesis) @ 2.1
13 97.4% Bulgarian (Bulgaria) + 2.6% Ingrians (Ingermanland) @ 2.1
14 76.1% Bulgarian (Bulgaria) + 23.9% Bulgarian (Bulgaria) @ 2.1
15 93.2% Bulgarian (Bulgaria) + 6.8% Croat (Croatia) @ 2.1
16 96.1% Bulgarian (Bulgaria) + 3.9% Ukrainian (Ukraine) @ 2.1
17 97.6% Bulgarian (Bulgaria) + 2.4% Estonian (Estonia) @ 2.1
18 97.7% Bulgarian (Bulgaria) + 2.3% Latvian_Dobele (Dobele) @ 2.11
19 97.7% Bulgarian (Bulgaria) + 2.3% Finn (Kuusamo) @ 2.11
20 96.9% Bulgarian (Bulgaria) + 3.1% Cossack (Kuban) @ 2.11

Eurogenes K13

Single population

1 Romanian 6.39
2 Bulgarian 6.4
3 Serbian 7.2
4 Moldavian 12.22
5 Greek_Thessaly 12.83
6 Hungarian 13.94
7 Croatian 14.25
8 Austrian 17.36
9 Tuscan 17.96
10 North_Italian 18.62
11 East_German 19.02
12 Italian_Abruzzo 19.18
13 Central_Greek 19.6
14 Ukrainian_Lviv 20.19
15 West_Sicilian 20.21
16 Ashkenazi 20.51
17 South_Polish 20.56
18 East_Sicilian 20.57
19 Ukrainian 21.15
20 West_German 21.38

Mixed population

1 51.4% Belorussian + 48.6% Italian_Jewish @ 2.92
2 50.1% Ashkenazi + 49.9% South_Polish @ 3.22
3 52.9% Italian_Jewish + 47.1% Lithuanian @ 3.27
4 51.7% Estonian_Polish + 48.3% Italian_Jewish @ 3.32
5 56.3% Ashkenazi + 43.7% Belorussian @ 3.37
6 60% Ashkenazi + 40% Estonian @ 3.48
7 54.1% Ashkenazi + 45.9% Polish @ 3.52
8 54.2% Southwest_Russian + 45.8% Italian_Jewish @ 3.54
9 51.9% Russian_Smolensk + 48.1% Italian_Jewish @ 3.57
10 52.5% Italian_Jewish + 47.5% Estonian @ 3.6
11 57.6% South_Polish + 42.4% Italian_Jewish @ 3.68
12 50.8% Ashkenazi + 49.2% Ukrainian @ 3.72
13 56% Ashkenazi + 44% Estonian_Polish @ 3.75
14 56.9% Ukrainian + 43.1% Italian_Jewish @ 3.79
15 60.5% Ashkenazi + 39.5% Lithuanian @ 3.8
16 55.8% Ashkenazi + 44.2% Russian_Smolensk @ 3.85
17 53.6% Polish + 46.4% Italian_Jewish @ 3.85
18 53.7% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 46.3% Italian_Jewish @ 4.08
19 51.8% Belorussian + 48.2% Sephardic_Jewish @ 4.1
20 53.5% Ashkenazi + 46.5% Southwest_Russian @ 4.13


MyHeritage

72% Balkan
20% greek and south italian
5% Scandinavian
3% Ashkenazi Jewish

[Jana]

Congrats! Very typical Bulgarian results. Could you post your Eurogenes K13 admixture proportions?

You can find out your Y dna haplogroup by using Myheritage raw data by using this link: https://ytree.morleydna.com/extractFromAutosomal

PS: Bulgarians, Gagauz, Macedonians and southern Romanians are genetically same populations more or less, and that is why you score closest to these ethnicities on gedmatch.
You can be modeled as mix of early Slavic and east Mediterranean like populations which is typical for eastern Balkans.

[Leto]

51.4% Belorussian + 48.6% Italian_Jewish @ 2.92

Interesting. So many Romanians and Bulgarians get a similar model on Eurogenes. It may be Ukrainian or SW Russian instead of Belorussian and it may not be literally 50/50 but the general idea is the same.

If you don't mind, post Dodecad K12b as well.

[mrblazhev]

Congrats! Very typical Bulgarian results. Could you post your Eurogenes K13 admixture proportions?

You can find out your Y dna haplogroup by using Myheritage raw data by using this link: https://ytree.morleydna.com/extractFromAutosomal

PS: Bulgarians, Gagauz, Macedonians and southern Romanians are genetically same populations more or less, and that is why you score closest to these ethnicities on gedmatch.
You can be modeled as mix of early Slavic and east Mediterranean like populations which is typical for eastern Balkans.

Here is the haplogroup most likely, thanks for the link btw

* I1a2a1 [I1-Z60 (I1-Z62, I1-Z61)]
* I1 [I1-L759 (I1-CTS10140, I1-CTS10338)]
* A1 [A-CTS3331 (A-P305, A-V168)]
* I2a2a [I2-CTS10125 (I2-CTS429, I2-CTS5286)]
* J2a1i [J2-L88 (J2-L198)]


K13 Admixture

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 27.35
2 North_Atlantic 23.64
3 East_Med 22.81
4 West_Med 14.61
5 West_Asian 7.51
6 Red_Sea 2.13
7 Oceanian 1.1
8 Siberian 0.6
9 Amerindian 0.18
10 East_Asian 0.07
11 South_Asian 0.01

[mrblazhev]

51.4% Belorussian + 48.6% Italian_Jewish @ 2.92

Interesting. So many Romanians and Bulgarians get a similar model on Eurogenes. It may be Ukrainian or SW Russian instead of Belorussian and it may not be literally 50/50 but the general idea is the same.

If you don't mind, post Dodecad K12b as well.

Dodecad 12b Admixtures

1 North_European 35.69
2 Caucasus 26
3 Atlantic_Med 25.93
4 Southwest_Asian 6.94
5 Gedrosia 3.9
6 South_Asian 0.82
7 Siberian 0.71

Single population

1 Romanians (Behar) 2.92
2 Bulgarian (Dodecad) 4.41
3 Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) 5.07
4 O_Italian (Dodecad) 15.02
5 Hungarians (Behar) 15.04
6 Greek (Dodecad) 17.83
7 N_Italian (Dodecad) 18.37
8 TSI30 (Metspalu) 19.41
9 Tuscan (HGDP) 19.61
10 C_Italian (Dodecad) 19.94
11 German (Dodecad) 20.4
12 North_Italian (HGDP) 21.29
13 French (Dodecad) 23.85
14 French (HGDP) 23.96
15 Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) 24
16 Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) 24.63
17 Sicilian (Dodecad) 24.81
18 S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) 24.83
19 Ashkenazi (Dodecad) 24.84
20 Dutch (Dodecad) 25.56


Mixed

1 71.3% Hungarians (Behar) + 28.7% Cypriots (Behar) @ 1.35
2 87.9% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 12.1% British (Dodecad) @ 1.61
3 88.2% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 11.8% Irish (Dodecad) @ 1.63
4 88.2% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 11.8% Orcadian (HGDP) @ 1.64
5 88.2% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 11.8% Orkney (1000Genomes) @ 1.66
6 87.8% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 12.2% Cornwall (1000Genomes) @ 1.66
7 87.6% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 12.4% British_Isles (Dodecad) @ 1.67
8 87% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 13% Kent (1000Genomes) @ 1.67
9 87.2% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 12.8% English (Dodecad) @ 1.68
10 90.9% Romanians (Behar) + 9.1% French (Dodecad) @ 1.68
11 88% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 12% Argyll (1000Genomes) @ 1.68
12 87.1% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 12.9% CEU30 (1000Genomes) @ 1.7
13 91% Romanians (Behar) + 9% French (HGDP) @ 1.72
14 86.3% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 13.7% Dutch (Dodecad) @ 1.72
15 54.3% Hungarians (Behar) + 45.7% Greek (Dodecad) @ 1.73
16 85.5% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 14.5% French (Dodecad) @ 1.76
17 85.6% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 14.4% Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) @ 1.76
18 92.9% Romanians (Behar) + 7.1% British (Dodecad) @ 1.82
19 92.8% Romanians (Behar) + 7.2% Cornwall (1000Genomes) @ 1.82
20 85.6% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 14.4% French (HGDP) @ 1.84


Please let me know what your conclusions are and any thoughts will be much appreciated

[mrblazhev]

51.4% Belorussian + 48.6% Italian_Jewish @ 2.92

Interesting. So many Romanians and Bulgarians get a similar model on Eurogenes. It may be Ukrainian or SW Russian instead of Belorussian and it may not be literally 50/50 but the general idea is the same.

If you don't mind, post Dodecad K12b as well.

Dodecad 12b Admixtures

1 North_European 35.69
2 Caucasus 26
3 Atlantic_Med 25.93
4 Southwest_Asian 6.94
5 Gedrosia 3.9
6 South_Asian 0.82
7 Siberian 0.71

Single population

1 Romanians (Behar) 2.92
2 Bulgarian (Dodecad) 4.41
3 Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) 5.07
4 O_Italian (Dodecad) 15.02
5 Hungarians (Behar) 15.04
6 Greek (Dodecad) 17.83
7 N_Italian (Dodecad) 18.37
8 TSI30 (Metspalu) 19.41
9 Tuscan (HGDP) 19.61
10 C_Italian (Dodecad) 19.94
11 German (Dodecad) 20.4
12 North_Italian (HGDP) 21.29
13 French (Dodecad) 23.85
14 French (HGDP) 23.96
15 Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) 24
16 Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) 24.63
17 Sicilian (Dodecad) 24.81
18 S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) 24.83
19 Ashkenazi (Dodecad) 24.84
20 Dutch (Dodecad) 25.56


Mixed

1 71.3% Hungarians (Behar) + 28.7% Cypriots (Behar) @ 1.35
2 87.9% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 12.1% British (Dodecad) @ 1.61
3 88.2% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 11.8% Irish (Dodecad) @ 1.63
4 88.2% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 11.8% Orcadian (HGDP) @ 1.64
5 88.2% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 11.8% Orkney (1000Genomes) @ 1.66
6 87.8% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 12.2% Cornwall (1000Genomes) @ 1.66
7 87.6% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 12.4% British_Isles (Dodecad) @ 1.67
8 87% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 13% Kent (1000Genomes) @ 1.67
9 87.2% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 12.8% English (Dodecad) @ 1.68
10 90.9% Romanians (Behar) + 9.1% French (Dodecad) @ 1.68
11 88% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 12% Argyll (1000Genomes) @ 1.68
12 87.1% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 12.9% CEU30 (1000Genomes) @ 1.7
13 91% Romanians (Behar) + 9% French (HGDP) @ 1.72
14 86.3% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 13.7% Dutch (Dodecad) @ 1.72
15 54.3% Hungarians (Behar) + 45.7% Greek (Dodecad) @ 1.73
16 85.5% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 14.5% French (Dodecad) @ 1.76
17 85.6% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 14.4% Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) @ 1.76
18 92.9% Romanians (Behar) + 7.1% British (Dodecad) @ 1.82
19 92.8% Romanians (Behar) + 7.2% Cornwall (1000Genomes) @ 1.82
20 85.6% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 14.4% French (HGDP) @ 1.84


Please let me know what your conclusions are and any thoughts will be much appreciated

[Leto]

Dodecad 12b Admixtures

1 North_European 35.69
2 Caucasus 26
3 Atlantic_Med 25.93
4 Southwest_Asian 6.94
5 Gedrosia 3.9
6 South_Asian 0.82
7 Siberian 0.71

Single population

1 Romanians (Behar) 2.92
2 Bulgarian (Dodecad) 4.41
3 Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) 5.07
4 O_Italian (Dodecad) 15.02
5 Hungarians (Behar) 15.04
6 Greek (Dodecad) 17.83
7 N_Italian (Dodecad) 18.37
8 TSI30 (Metspalu) 19.41
9 Tuscan (HGDP) 19.61
10 C_Italian (Dodecad) 19.94
11 German (Dodecad) 20.4
12 North_Italian (HGDP) 21.29
13 French (Dodecad) 23.85
14 French (HGDP) 23.96
15 Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) 24
16 Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) 24.63
17 Sicilian (Dodecad) 24.81
18 S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) 24.83
19 Ashkenazi (Dodecad) 24.84
20 Dutch (Dodecad) 25.56


Mixed

1 71.3% Hungarians (Behar) + 28.7% Cypriots (Behar) @ 1.35
2 87.9% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 12.1% British (Dodecad) @ 1.61
3 88.2% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 11.8% Irish (Dodecad) @ 1.63
4 88.2% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 11.8% Orcadian (HGDP) @ 1.64
5 88.2% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 11.8% Orkney (1000Genomes) @ 1.66
6 87.8% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 12.2% Cornwall (1000Genomes) @ 1.66
7 87.6% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 12.4% British_Isles (Dodecad) @ 1.67
8 87% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 13% Kent (1000Genomes) @ 1.67
9 87.2% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 12.8% English (Dodecad) @ 1.68
10 90.9% Romanians (Behar) + 9.1% French (Dodecad) @ 1.68
11 88% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 12% Argyll (1000Genomes) @ 1.68
12 87.1% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 12.9% CEU30 (1000Genomes) @ 1.7
13 91% Romanians (Behar) + 9% French (HGDP) @ 1.72
14 86.3% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 13.7% Dutch (Dodecad) @ 1.72
15 54.3% Hungarians (Behar) + 45.7% Greek (Dodecad) @ 1.73
16 85.5% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 14.5% French (Dodecad) @ 1.76
17 85.6% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 14.4% Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) @ 1.76
18 92.9% Romanians (Behar) + 7.1% British (Dodecad) @ 1.82
19 92.8% Romanians (Behar) + 7.2% Cornwall (1000Genomes) @ 1.82
20 85.6% Bulgarian (Dodecad) + 14.4% French (HGDP) @ 1.84


Please let me know what your conclusions are and any thoughts will be much appreciated
Well, I don't have much to say but looks like you are very typical for the Eastern Balkans

Distance to: mrblazhev
2.63755569 Pomak
3.01340339 Macedonian
3.19954684 Romanians
3.51582138 Montenegrin
4.56662895 R.Moldova_South
4.88948873 Bulgarian
5.63825328 Bulgarians
5.86833878 Gagauz
6.12915981 Serb
6.44325228 R.Moldova_Gagauz
8.82817648 R.Moldova_Centre+North
8.84927116 Albanian_North
9.34337198 HUN_Szekely
9.48031645 Turk_Romania
9.67310705 Bosnian
9.77251247 Turk_Bulgaria
9.88758312 Albanian_Kosovo
10.94227581 Croat
10.94753397 Turk_Greece
11.17376839 Turk_Macedonia

Target: mrblazhev
Distance: 0.9741% / 0.97412675 | ADC: 0.5x
38.8 Romanians
33.8 Montenegrin
27.4 Pomak

Target: mrblazhev
Distance: 0.6603% / 0.66029662 | ADC: 0.25x
47.2 Romanians
43.6 Montenegrin
8.4 Pomak
0.8 Saudis

http://vahaduo.genetics.ovh/

[mrblazhev]

What do you think after seeing the K13 admixture and the haplogroup? Where would you put me on the map

[Jana]

Here is the haplogroup most likely, thanks for the link btw

* I1a2a1 [I1-Z60 (I1-Z62, I1-Z61)]
* I1 [I1-L759 (I1-CTS10140, I1-CTS10338)]
* A1 [A-CTS3331 (A-P305, A-V168)]
* I2a2a [I2-CTS10125 (I2-CTS429, I2-CTS5286)]
* J2a1i [J2-L88 (J2-L198)]


K13 Admixture

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 27.35
2 North_Atlantic 23.64
3 East_Med 22.81
4 West_Med 14.61
5 West_Asian 7.51
6 Red_Sea 2.13
7 Oceanian 1.1
8 Siberian 0.6
9 Amerindian 0.18
10 East_Asian 0.07
11 South_Asian 0.01

Interesting, you belong to Germanic I1 haplogroup. Morley can't predict subclades with accuracy but general hg prediction is 100% accurate.
Here are your closest population when running updated Vahaduo with Bulgarian regional averages made by Vbnethkio.

You come closest to SE Serbs (Torlakian speakers), after than slavophone Macedonians.

Distance to: mrblazhev

6.03589264 Serb_Serbia_South&East
6.30578917 Macedonian
6.80407966 Romania_Muntenia
6.96599598 Romania_Moldavia_South
6.98455439 Romanian_Wallachia
7.03110944 Romania_Moldavia_average
7.04871620 Romania_Transylvania
7.08602145 Romania_Banat
7.15321606 Romania_Dobruja
7.21673056 Bulgarian_southwest
7.21808146 Serb_Herzegovina
7.35522943 Romanian_Oltenia
7.35754035 Romania_Crisana
7.40372879 Macedonian_East
7.44308404 Bulgarian
7.44699268 Romania_Moldavia_North
7.57353286 Moldova_South
7.58349524 Montenegrin
7.81667448 Serb_Serbia
7.84516412 Bulgarian_northwest
7.96706345 Macedonian_Northwest
7.99560504 Bulgarian_central
8.01079896 Bulgarian_Moesia
8.01342623 Turk_N-Macedonia
8.16533527 Bosniak_Sandzak

[Jana]

K13 with Bulgarian and Pomak averages made by Kaspias (I prefer Vbnethkio regional data compared to single city or average composed by 1-2 people but here you go)

Distance to: mrblazhev

3.34281319 Pomak_Plovdiv
5.35106531 Bulgarian_Pleven
6.03589264 Serb_Serbia_South&East
6.30578917 Macedonian
6.80407966 Romania_Muntenia
6.86955603 Bulgarian_Southwest
6.96599598 Romania_Moldavia_South
6.98455439 Romanian_Wallachia
7.03110944 Romania_Moldavia_average
7.04871620 Romania_Transylvania
7.08602145 Romania_Banat
7.11061882 Bulgarian_Sofia
7.15321606 Romania_Dobruja
7.16411195 Bulgarian_Stara-Zagora
7.21808146 Serb_Herzegovina
7.24251338 Bulgarian
7.35522943 Romanian_Oltenia
7.35754035 Romania_Crisana
7.40372879 Macedonian_East
7.44699268 Romania_Moldavia_North
7.57353286 Moldova_South
7.58349524 Montenegrin
7.75808610 Bulgarian_Central
7.81667448 Serb_Serbia
7.96706345 Macedonian_Northwest

[mrblazhev]

K13 with Bulgarian and Pomak averages made by Kaspias (I prefer Vbnethkio regional data compared to single city or average composed by 1-2 people but here you go)

Distance to: mrblazhev

3.34281319 Pomak_Plovdiv
5.35106531 Bulgarian_Pleven
6.03589264 Serb_Serbia_South&East
6.30578917 Macedonian
6.80407966 Romania_Muntenia
6.86955603 Bulgarian_Southwest
6.96599598 Romania_Moldavia_South
6.98455439 Romanian_Wallachia
7.03110944 Romania_Moldavia_average
7.04871620 Romania_Transylvania
7.08602145 Romania_Banat
7.11061882 Bulgarian_Sofia
7.15321606 Romania_Dobruja
7.16411195 Bulgarian_Stara-Zagora
7.21808146 Serb_Herzegovina
7.24251338 Bulgarian
7.35522943 Romanian_Oltenia
7.35754035 Romania_Crisana
7.40372879 Macedonian_East
7.44699268 Romania_Moldavia_North
7.57353286 Moldova_South
7.58349524 Montenegrin
7.75808610 Bulgarian_Central
7.81667448 Serb_Serbia
7.96706345 Macedonian_Northwest

Does this mean I am pomak, because the distance is closer?

[mrblazhev]

Interesting, you belong to Germanic I1 haplogroup. Morley can't predict subclades with accuracy but general hg prediction is 100% accurate.
Here are your closest population when running updated Vahaduo with Bulgarian regional averages made by Vbnethkio.

You come closest to SE Serbs (Torlakian speakers), after than slavophone Macedonians.

Distance to: mrblazhev

6.03589264 Serb_Serbia_South&East
6.30578917 Macedonian
6.80407966 Romania_Muntenia
6.96599598 Romania_Moldavia_South
6.98455439 Romanian_Wallachia
7.03110944 Romania_Moldavia_average
7.04871620 Romania_Transylvania
7.08602145 Romania_Banat
7.15321606 Romania_Dobruja
7.21673056 Bulgarian_southwest
7.21808146 Serb_Herzegovina
7.35522943 Romanian_Oltenia
7.35754035 Romania_Crisana
7.40372879 Macedonian_East
7.44308404 Bulgarian
7.44699268 Romania_Moldavia_North
7.57353286 Moldova_South
7.58349524 Montenegrin
7.81667448 Serb_Serbia
7.84516412 Bulgarian_northwest
7.96706345 Macedonian_Northwest
7.99560504 Bulgarian_central
8.01079896 Bulgarian_Moesia
8.01342623 Turk_N-Macedonia
8.16533527 Bosniak_Sandzak

I look germanic by the way. Ginger beard, blonde hair, blue eyes, tall

[Scandal]

51.4% Belorussian + 48.6% Italian_Jewish @ 2.92

Interesting. So many Romanians and Bulgarians get a similar model on Eurogenes. It may be Ukrainian or SW Russian instead of Belorussian and it may not be literally 50/50 but the general idea is the same.

If you don't mind, post Dodecad K12b as well.

I get the same ethnicities but different %

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 78.8% Belorussian + 21.2% Italian_Jewish @ 2.95


Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
1 Belorussian + Belorussian + Estonian + Italian_Jewish @ 3.418521

On vahaduo when I remove Belarusian from the source I get baltic populations instead. For some reason it doesn't want to model me with Russians or Ukrainians. Maybe because I lack the mong that Russians and Ukrainians have in small quantities?

[mrblazhev]

Interesting, you belong to Germanic I1 haplogroup. Morley can't predict subclades with accuracy but general hg prediction is 100% accurate.
Here are your closest population when running updated Vahaduo with Bulgarian regional averages made by Vbnethkio.

You come closest to SE Serbs (Torlakian speakers), after than slavophone Macedonians.

Distance to: mrblazhev

6.03589264 Serb_Serbia_South&East
6.30578917 Macedonian
6.80407966 Romania_Muntenia
6.96599598 Romania_Moldavia_South
6.98455439 Romanian_Wallachia
7.03110944 Romania_Moldavia_average
7.04871620 Romania_Transylvania
7.08602145 Romania_Banat
7.15321606 Romania_Dobruja
7.21673056 Bulgarian_southwest
7.21808146 Serb_Herzegovina
7.35522943 Romanian_Oltenia
7.35754035 Romania_Crisana
7.40372879 Macedonian_East
7.44308404 Bulgarian
7.44699268 Romania_Moldavia_North
7.57353286 Moldova_South
7.58349524 Montenegrin
7.81667448 Serb_Serbia
7.84516412 Bulgarian_northwest
7.96706345 Macedonian_Northwest
7.99560504 Bulgarian_central
8.01079896 Bulgarian_Moesia
8.01342623 Turk_N-Macedonia
8.16533527 Bosniak_Sandzak

I look germanic by the way. Ginger beard, blonde hair, blue eyes, tall

[Jana]

Does this mean I am pomak, because the distance is closer?

You're close to this Pomak average. But I don't know on how many people is this average based on. User Kaspias made these averages, he can answer your questions.
In any case, getting something as closest population doesn't make you that, it just mean you have similar genetics to that group.

[vbnetkhio]

I look germanic by the way. Ginger beard, blonde hair, blue eyes, tall

are you from western Bulgaria?

[mrblazhev]

are you from western Bulgaria?

Yes

[vbnetkhio]

Yes

well, then your distances really make sense.

[CommonSense]

You are rather close to people from southern and eastern Serbia, as well as Romanians. Macedonians have less Early Slavic DNA and plot closer to Albanians. I'm not familiar with Pomaks though.

[vbnetkhio]

You are rather close to people from southern and eastern Serbia, as well as Romanians. Macedonians have less Early Slavic DNA and plot closer to Albanians. I'm not familiar with Pomaks though.

https://i.imgur.com/IXuesjA.png

[Ion Basescul]

https://i.imgur.com/IXuesjA.png

Do we have your Bulgarian averages that Feiichy's referred to as being more representative on G25? I've noticed that there is some naming overlap, but am not sure if those are yours.

[CommonSense]

https://i.imgur.com/IXuesjA.png

He has more North Atlantic + Baltic than all of them. They do seem to exibit the same range as most regular Bulgarians though.

[Leto]

I get the same ethnicities but different %


On vahaduo when I remove Belarusian from the source I get baltic populations instead. For some reason it doesn't want to model me with Russians or Ukrainians. Maybe because I lack the mong that Russians and Ukrainians have in small quantities?
The Belarus avg has roughly the same amount of mong as the Ukrainian and Smolensk ones.

[vbnetkhio]

Do we have your Bulgarian averages that Feiichy's referred to as being more representative on G25? I've noticed that there is some naming overlap, but am not sure if those are yours.

these are the k13 averages i made.
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?323182-Romanians-Bulgarians-Slavicness&p=6716653&viewfull=1#post6716653

on g25 there are only 5 Bulgarian samples...

[17571imre]

Congrats! very nice results. could you also post your eurogenes k15 oracle results?

[mrblazhev]

Congrats! very nice results. could you also post your eurogenes k15 oracle results?

1 Bulgarian 6.43
2 Romanian 6.92
3 Serbian 8.29
4 Greek 11.43
5 Austrian 12.47
6 Greek_Thessaly 12.85
7 Moldavian 13.39
8 Croatian 13.62
9 Hungarian 14.48
10 Tuscan 14.64
11 Italian_Abruzzo 15.55
12 North_Italian 15.62
13 West_Sicilian 16.42
14 Ashkenazi 16.92
15 Central_Greek 16.98
16 East_Sicilian 17.79
17 East_German 18.19
18 South_Polish 19.68
19 Ukrainian_Lviv 19.83
20 Spanish_Cataluna 19.88

1 59.6% West_Sicilian + 40.4% Belorussian @ 3.93
2 57.2% West_Sicilian + 42.8% Russian_Smolensk @ 4.01
3 63% West_Sicilian + 37% Lithuanian @ 4.16
4 58.2% West_Sicilian + 41.8% Southwest_Russian @ 4.28
5 59.9% West_Sicilian + 40.1% Estonian_Polish @ 4.38
6 71.7% Austrian + 28.3% Cyprian @ 4.4
7 75.6% Austrian + 24.4% Lebanese_Druze @ 4.42
8 57.8% West_Sicilian + 42.2% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 4.44
9 61.1% Italian_Abruzzo + 38.9% Belorussian @ 4.52
10 75.9% Austrian + 24.1% Lebanese_Christian @ 4.63
11 52.6% Greek + 47.4% Austrian @ 4.67
12 61.4% Italian_Abruzzo + 38.6% Estonian_Polish @ 4.72
13 58.7% Italian_Abruzzo + 41.3% Russian_Smolensk @ 4.73
14 75.4% Austrian + 24.6% Samaritan @ 4.76
15 57.5% West_Sicilian + 42.5% Polish @ 4.79
16 64.6% Italian_Abruzzo + 35.4% Lithuanian @ 4.8
17 54.7% South_Italian + 45.3% Belorussian @ 4.99
18 70.1% Austrian + 29.9% Tunisian_Jewish @ 5.01
19 52.1% South_Italian + 47.9% Russian_Smolensk @ 5.01
20 52.2% Polish + 47.8% Sephardic_Jewish @ 5.02

[Kerili]

Congrats! Very typical Bulgarian results. Could you post your Eurogenes K13 admixture proportions?

You can find out your Y dna haplogroup by using Myheritage raw data by using this link: https://ytree.morleydna.com/extractFromAutosomal

PS: Bulgarians, Gagauz, Macedonians and southern Romanians are genetically same populations more or less, and that is why you score closest to these ethnicities on gedmatch.
You can be modeled as mix of early Slavic and east Mediterranean like populations which is typical for eastern Balkans.

Living Dna or Ftdna are accpetable ?

[Leto]

1 Bulgarian 6.43
2 Romanian 6.92
3 Serbian 8.29
4 Greek 11.43
5 Austrian 12.47
6 Greek_Thessaly 12.85
7 Moldavian 13.39
8 Croatian 13.62
9 Hungarian 14.48
10 Tuscan 14.64
11 Italian_Abruzzo 15.55
12 North_Italian 15.62
13 West_Sicilian 16.42
14 Ashkenazi 16.92
15 Central_Greek 16.98
16 East_Sicilian 17.79
17 East_German 18.19
18 South_Polish 19.68
19 Ukrainian_Lviv 19.83
20 Spanish_Cataluna 19.88

1 59.6% West_Sicilian + 40.4% Belorussian @ 3.93
2 57.2% West_Sicilian + 42.8% Russian_Smolensk @ 4.01
3 63% West_Sicilian + 37% Lithuanian @ 4.16
4 58.2% West_Sicilian + 41.8% Southwest_Russian @ 4.28
5 59.9% West_Sicilian + 40.1% Estonian_Polish @ 4.38
6 71.7% Austrian + 28.3% Cyprian @ 4.4
7 75.6% Austrian + 24.4% Lebanese_Druze @ 4.42
8 57.8% West_Sicilian + 42.2% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 4.44
9 61.1% Italian_Abruzzo + 38.9% Belorussian @ 4.52
10 75.9% Austrian + 24.1% Lebanese_Christian @ 4.63
11 52.6% Greek + 47.4% Austrian @ 4.67
12 61.4% Italian_Abruzzo + 38.6% Estonian_Polish @ 4.72
13 58.7% Italian_Abruzzo + 41.3% Russian_Smolensk @ 4.73
14 75.4% Austrian + 24.6% Samaritan @ 4.76
15 57.5% West_Sicilian + 42.5% Polish @ 4.79
16 64.6% Italian_Abruzzo + 35.4% Lithuanian @ 4.8
17 54.7% South_Italian + 45.3% Belorussian @ 4.99
18 70.1% Austrian + 29.9% Tunisian_Jewish @ 5.01
19 52.1% South_Italian + 47.9% Russian_Smolensk @ 5.01
20 52.2% Polish + 47.8% Sephardic_Jewish @ 5.02
No admixture proportions...

[mrblazhev]

No admixture proportions...

1 Atlantic 20.06
2 East_Med 18.82
3 Baltic 16.41
4 North_Sea 13.22
5 Eastern_Euro 10.64
6 West_Med 9.9
7 West_Asian 8.28
8 Red_Sea 1.76
9 Oceanian 0.85
10 Siberian 0.06

[bained]

Good good. You plot kinda close to me.