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ramillo
07-29-2020, 09:33 PM
I don't know if someone knows this but Syrian reference in Eurogenes K13 is completely wrong. I've never seen a Syrian getting it as #1 match. These are 3 examples of how Syrians score:
#1
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 32.33
2 West_Asian 26.64
3 West_Med 11.99
4 North_Atlantic 10.32
5 Red_Sea 8.87
6 South_Asian 2.41
7 Northeast_African 2.05
8 Baltic 1.71
9 Sub-Saharan 1.57
10 East_Asian 1.26
11 Siberian 0.47
12 Oceanian 0.38
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Turkish 8.08
2 Lebanese_Muslim 9.05
3 Syrian 10.14
4 Assyrian 11.64
5 Azeri 12.09
6 Kurdish_Jewish 12.67
7 Iranian_Jewish 12.69
8 Georgian_Jewish 12.72
9 Cyprian 12.76
10 Armenian 13.43
11 Jordanian 14.56
12 Sephardic_Jewish 15.14
13 Tunisian_Jewish 15.64
14 Lebanese_Druze 15.64
15 Kurdish 15.75
16 Palestinian 16.07
17 South_Italian 16.15
18 Libyan_Jewish 16.26
19 Iranian 16.43
20 Lebanese_Christian 16.63
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 51% Sephardic_Jewish + 49% Kurdish @ 3.53
2 56.9% Azeri + 43.1% Tunisian_Jewish @ 3.73
3 50.2% Tunisian_Jewish + 49.8% Kurdish @ 3.79
4 58% Azeri + 42% Libyan_Jewish @ 3.92
5 56.2% Azeri + 43.8% Sephardic_Jewish @ 4.04
6 52.2% Sephardic_Jewish + 47.8% Iranian @ 4.06
7 50.8% Kurdish + 49.2% Libyan_Jewish @ 4.11
8 62.4% Tunisian_Jewish + 37.6% Georgian @ 4.16
9 81.2% Kurdish_Jewish + 18.8% Southwest_English @ 4.2
10 53.1% Kurdish + 46.9% Italian_Jewish @ 4.36
11 81.7% Kurdish_Jewish + 18.3% West_Scottish @ 4.37
12 81.6% Kurdish_Jewish + 18.4% Irish @ 4.39
13 77.9% Kurdish_Jewish + 22.1% French @ 4.41
14 63.8% Tunisian_Jewish + 36.2% Ossetian @ 4.47
15 61.5% Libyan_Jewish + 38.5% Georgian @ 4.47
16 64.4% Tunisian_Jewish + 35.6% Abhkasian @ 4.49
17 81.5% Kurdish_Jewish + 18.5% Orcadian @ 4.5
18 69.1% Turkish + 30.9% Tunisian_Jewish @ 4.52
19 70% Turkish + 30% Libyan_Jewish @ 4.53
20 79.2% Assyrian + 20.8% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 4.55
#2
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 31.55
2 West_Asian 26.73
3 West_Med 14.61
4 Red_Sea 9.08
5 North_Atlantic 6.15
6 South_Asian 3.43
7 Northeast_African 2.63
8 Baltic 1.86
9 Sub-Saharan 1.68
10 Siberian 1.55
11 Oceanian 0.66
12 East_Asian 0.06
13 Amerindian 0.01
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Turkish 7.76
2 Lebanese_Muslim 8.2
3 Syrian 8.8
4 Assyrian 10.63
5 Georgian_Jewish 11.58
6 Cyprian 11.71
7 Kurdish_Jewish 11.84
8 Iranian_Jewish 12.04
9 Azeri 12.17
10 Armenian 12.45
11 Jordanian 13.88
12 Kurdish 15.51
13 Samaritan 15.62
14 Lebanese_Christian 15.83
15 Iranian 15.95
16 Palestinian 15.96
17 Tunisian_Jewish 16.09
18 Sephardic_Jewish 16.15
19 Lebanese_Druze 16.16
20 Libyan_Jewish 16.43
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 53.7% Turkish + 46.3% Syrian @ 3.26
2 70.4% Armenian + 29.6% Algerian @ 3.37
3 71.5% Armenian + 28.5% Moroccan @ 3.51
4 76.7% Syrian + 23.3% Ossetian @ 3.59
5 75.9% Syrian + 24.1% Balkar @ 3.59
6 69.7% Armenian + 30.3% Tunisian @ 3.72
7 71.5% Armenian + 28.5% Mozabite_Berber @ 3.79
8 62.5% Libyan_Jewish + 37.5% Abhkasian @ 3.79
9 77.3% Turkish + 22.7% Egyptian @ 3.82
10 78.5% Lebanese_Muslim + 21.5% Ossetian @ 3.86
11 60.7% Libyan_Jewish + 39.3% Georgian @ 3.87
12 76.9% Syrian + 23.1% Kabardin @ 3.89
13 51.8% Turkish + 48.2% Lebanese_Muslim @ 3.89
14 77.8% Lebanese_Muslim + 22.2% Balkar @ 3.93
15 78.5% Lebanese_Muslim + 21.5% Kabardin @ 3.94
16 66.6% Turkish + 33.4% Jordanian @ 3.94
17 51.5% Kurdish + 48.5% Libyan_Jewish @ 3.95
18 72.7% Turkish + 27.3% Bedouin @ 4.03
19 77.9% Syrian + 22.1% North_Ossetian @ 4.06
20 53.8% Kurdish + 46.2% Algerian_Jewish @ 4.14
#3
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 34.29
2 West_Asian 27.25
3 West_Med 11.59
4 Red_Sea 8.21
5 North_Atlantic 7
6 South_Asian 4.45
7 Baltic 3.4
8 Northeast_African 2.05
9 East_Asian 0.95
10 Siberian 0.81
# Population (source) Distance
1 Turkish 7.23
2 Lebanese_Muslim 7.65
3 Assyrian 8.53
4 Syrian 9.18
5 Iranian_Jewish 9.51
6 Kurdish_Jewish 9.82
7 Georgian_Jewish 10
8 Azeri 10.51
9 Armenian 11.62
10 Cyprian 12.01
11 Jordanian 13.83
12 Kurdish 13.9
13 Lebanese_Druze 13.99
14 Iranian 14.33
15 Lebanese_Christian 15
16 Samaritan 15.38
17 Palestinian 15.39
18 Tunisian_Jewish 16.74
19 Sephardic_Jewish 16.8
20 Libyan_Jewish 17.27
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 54.7% Kurdish + 45.3% Tunisian_Jewish @ 1.64
2 55.5% Kurdish + 44.5% Libyan_Jewish @ 1.86
3 80.6% Lebanese_Muslim + 19.4% Tabassaran @ 2.27
4 58.6% Lebanese_Muslim + 41.4% Azeri @ 2.54
5 79.8% Lebanese_Muslim + 20.2% Lezgin @ 2.55
6 51.6% Turkish + 48.4% Lebanese_Muslim @ 2.61
7 54% Iranian + 46% Tunisian_Jewish @ 2.63
8 75% Lebanese_Muslim + 25% Kumyk @ 2.64
9 79.8% Lebanese_Muslim + 20.2% Chechen @ 2.69
10 61.9% Azeri + 38.1% Tunisian_Jewish @ 2.69
11 62.7% Azeri + 37.3% Libyan_Jewish @ 2.7
12 69.4% Turkish + 30.6% Palestinian @ 2.77
13 81.5% Lebanese_Muslim + 18.5% Tadjik @ 2.78
14 57.2% Iranian + 42.8% Italian_Jewish @ 2.81
15 54.8% Iranian + 45.2% Libyan_Jewish @ 2.98
16 58% Kurdish + 42% Algerian_Jewish @ 3.02
17 58% Kurdish + 42% Italian_Jewish @ 3.02
18 56.9% Turkish + 43.1% Syrian @ 3.05
19 54.9% Kurdish + 45.1% Sephardic_Jewish @ 3.05
20 79.1% Lebanese_Muslim + 20.9% Kabardin @ 3.05
Please add their Harappa and Dod K12b too.
happycow
07-29-2020, 10:25 PM
Syrians seem to have the highest west asian out of all levantines. I get syrian as my #1 using my unconverted 23andme kit.
ramillo
07-29-2020, 10:32 PM
Please add their Harappa and Dod K12b too.
Harappa:
#1
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 36.96
2 Baloch 17.68
3 Mediterranean 16.81
4 SW-Asian 16.52
5 NE-Euro 4.94
6 E-African 3.05
7 NE-Asian 1.53
8 S-Indian 0.79
9 W-African 0.66
10 Siberian 0.55
11 American 0.31
12 San 0.2
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 iraqi-arab (harappa) 10.54
2 lebanese (behar) 10.65
3 palestinian (harappa) 10.91
4 turkish (harappa) 11.13
5 armenian (harappa) 11.23
6 turk-kayseri (hodoglugil) 12.28
7 syrian (behar) 12.35
8 lebanese-muslim (haber) 12.45
9 uzbekistan-jew (behar) 12.81
10 kurd (harappa) 13.55
11 turk-istanbul (hodoglugil) 13.67
12 sephardic-jew (behar) 13.9
13 turk (behar) 13.9
14 turk-aydin (hodoglugil) 14.39
15 cypriot (behar) 14.61
16 jordanian (behar) 14.79
17 iranian (behar) 14.86
18 azeri (harappa) 15.28
19 iraqi-mandaean (harappa) 15.46
20 iraq-jew (behar) 15.54
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 53.7% kurd (harappa) + 46.3% morocco-jew (behar) @ 3.06
2 51.3% iranian (behar) + 48.7% morocco-jew (behar) @ 3.28
3 76.9% kurd (yunusbayev) + 23.1% tunisia (henn2012) @ 3.51
4 51.8% sephardic-jew (behar) + 48.2% iranian (behar) @ 3.6
5 75.3% kurd (yunusbayev) + 24.7% morocco-n (henn2012) @ 3.88
6 79.4% iraqi-mandaean (harappa) + 20.6% spain-basc (henn2012) @ 3.89
7 79.8% iraqi-mandaean (harappa) + 20.2% basque (hgdp) @ 3.91
8 83% armenian (harappa) + 17% tunisia (henn2012) @ 4.01
9 83.2% turkish (harappa) + 16.8% tunisia (henn2012) @ 4.03
10 81.7% armenian (harappa) + 18.3% morocco-n (henn2012) @ 4.06
11 50.7% kurd (harappa) + 49.3% sephardic-jew (behar) @ 4.1
12 80.9% uzbekistan-jew (behar) + 19.1% tunisia (henn2012) @ 4.11
13 81.9% turkish (harappa) + 18.1% morocco-n (henn2012) @ 4.16
14 82.3% turkish (harappa) + 17.7% saharawi (henn2012) @ 4.38
15 78.6% iranian-jew (behar) + 21.4% spain-basc (henn2012) @ 4.42
16 81% turkish (harappa) + 19% algeria (henn2012) @ 4.43
17 75.3% iraqi-mandaean (harappa) + 24.7% spaniard (1000genomes) @ 4.46
18 79% iranian-jew (behar) + 21% basque (hgdp) @ 4.48
19 82.3% turkish (harappa) + 17.7% mozabite (hgdp) @ 4.56
20 79.7% uzbekistan-jew (behar) + 20.3% morocco-n (henn2012) @ 4.64
#2
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 35.75
2 SW-Asian 18.07
3 Baloch 16.31
4 Mediterranean 15.5
5 NE-Euro 5.96
6 E-African 2.39
7 NE-Asian 2.35
8 W-African 1.63
9 S-Indian 1.3
10 Papuan 0.75
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 iraqi-arab (harappa) 9.62
2 lebanese (behar) 9.65
3 palestinian (harappa) 9.92
4 syrian (behar) 10.98
5 turkish (harappa) 11.82
6 armenian (harappa) 11.99
7 lebanese-muslim (haber) 12.12
8 turk-kayseri (hodoglugil) 12.96
9 uzbekistan-jew (behar) 13.09
10 jordanian (behar) 13.32
11 sephardic-jew (behar) 13.58
12 turk-istanbul (hodoglugil) 14.2
13 kurd (harappa) 14.22
14 turk-aydin (hodoglugil) 14.23
15 turk (behar) 14.57
16 cypriot (behar) 14.99
17 iranian (behar) 15.14
18 morocco-jew (behar) 15.15
19 ashkenazy-jew (behar) 15.47
20 iraq-jew (behar) 15.58
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 50% morocco-jew (behar) + 50% iranian (behar) @ 2.79
2 51.7% kurd (harappa) + 48.3% morocco-jew (behar) @ 3.48
3 75.1% iraqi-arab (harappa) + 24.9% tuscan (1000genomes) @ 3.5
4 52.9% sephardic-jew (behar) + 47.1% iranian (behar) @ 3.54
5 79.8% iraqi-arab (harappa) + 20.2% italian (hgdp) @ 3.67
6 80.6% turkish (harappa) + 19.4% saharawi (henn2012) @ 3.71
7 76.2% turkish (harappa) + 23.8% libya (henn2012) @ 3.72
8 80.5% turkish (harappa) + 19.5% mozabite (hgdp) @ 3.87
9 78.8% uzbekistan-jew (behar) + 21.2% morocco-n (henn2012) @ 3.94
10 63% iraqi-arab (harappa) + 37% ashkenazy-jew (behar) @ 3.95
11 84.6% iraqi-arab (harappa) + 15.4% sardinian (hgdp) @ 3.96
12 79.3% turkish (harappa) + 20.7% algeria (henn2012) @ 4.05
13 80.4% uzbekistan-jew (behar) + 19.6% tunisia (henn2012) @ 4.06
14 83.8% iraqi-arab (harappa) + 16.2% spaniard (1000genomes) @ 4.08
15 87.2% iraqi-arab (harappa) + 12.8% basque (hgdp) @ 4.12
16 79.4% turkish (harappa) + 20.6% moroccan (behar) @ 4.15
17 87% iraqi-arab (harappa) + 13% spain-basc (henn2012) @ 4.19
18 80.6% armenian (harappa) + 19.4% saharawi (henn2012) @ 4.23
19 80.4% armenian (harappa) + 19.6% mozabite (hgdp) @ 4.23
20 67.6% iraqi-arab (harappa) + 32.4% ashkenazi (harappa) @ 4.37
Dod K12b:
#1
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 36.21
2 Southwest_Asian 17.29
3 Gedrosia 16.05
4 Atlantic_Med 15.16
5 North_European 6.38
6 Northwest_African 2.62
7 East_African 2.45
8 Sub_Saharan 1.53
9 East_Asian 1.48
10 South_Asian 0.64
11 Siberian 0.21
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Lebanese (Behar) 10.05
2 Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) 12.21
3 Syrians (Behar) 12.26
4 Turkish (Dodecad) 13.1
5 Turks (Behar) 13.14
6 Jordanians (Behar) 14.03
7 Sephardic_Jews (Behar) 15.02
8 Iraq_Jews (Behar) 15.41
9 Kurd (Dodecad) 15.68
10 Kurds (Yunusbayev) 15.69
11 Druze (HGDP) 15.85
12 Cypriots (Behar) 16.28
13 Iranian_Jews (Behar) 16.56
14 Morocco_Jews (Behar) 16.64
15 Georgia_Jews (Behar) 16.66
16 Assyrian (Dodecad) 16.68
17 Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) 16.72
18 Iranian (Dodecad) 16.72
19 Iranians (Behar) 17.1
20 Palestinian (HGDP) 17.15
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 78.7% Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) + 21.3% Canarias (1000Genomes) @ 4.24
2 51.6% Kurd (Dodecad) + 48.4% Morocco_Jews (Behar) @ 4.48
3 51.6% Kurds (Yunusbayev) + 48.4% Morocco_Jews (Behar) @ 4.52
4 79.5% Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) + 20.5% Murcia (1000Genomes) @ 4.56
5 79.4% Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) + 20.6% Portuguese (Dodecad) @ 4.56
6 53.5% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) + 46.5% Iranians (Behar) @ 4.61
7 79.4% Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) + 20.6% Extremadura (1000Genomes) @ 4.68
8 79.5% Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) + 20.5% Galicia (1000Genomes) @ 4.7
9 80.4% Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) + 19.6% Castilla_Y_Leon (1000Genomes) @ 4.77
10 80.9% Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) + 19.1% Spanish (Dodecad) @ 4.85
11 51.2% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) + 48.8% Kurd (Dodecad) @ 4.86
12 81.1% Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) + 18.9% Castilla_La_Mancha (1000Genomes) @ 4.89
13 73.4% Iranian_Jews (Behar) + 26.6% Portuguese (Dodecad) @ 4.9
14 73.3% Iranian_Jews (Behar) + 26.7% Extremadura (1000Genomes) @ 4.94
15 50.1% Morocco_Jews (Behar) + 49.9% Iranian (Dodecad) @ 4.95
16 80% Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) + 20% Andalucia (1000Genomes) @ 5.02
17 81.7% Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) + 18.3% Cantabria (1000Genomes) @ 5.06
18 73.5% Iranian_Jews (Behar) + 26.5% Galicia (1000Genomes) @ 5.06
19 81.8% Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) + 18.2% Aragon (1000Genomes) @ 5.11
20 50.8% Morocco_Jews (Behar) + 49.2% Iranians (Behar) @ 5.13
#2
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 34.96
2 Southwest_Asian 18.1
3 Gedrosia 16.23
4 Atlantic_Med 14.82
5 North_European 5.74
6 Northwest_African 2.65
7 East_Asian 2.5
8 Sub_Saharan 2.45
9 East_African 1.46
10 South_Asian 1.09
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Lebanese (Behar) 10.47
2 Syrians (Behar) 12
3 Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) 12.88
4 Jordanians (Behar) 13.84
5 Turks (Behar) 14.31
6 Turkish (Dodecad) 14.4
7 Iraq_Jews (Behar) 15.71
8 Sephardic_Jews (Behar) 15.8
9 Kurd (Dodecad) 16
10 Kurds (Yunusbayev) 16.18
11 Druze (HGDP) 16.53
12 Palestinian (HGDP) 16.94
13 Iranian_Jews (Behar) 16.98
14 Morocco_Jews (Behar) 17
15 Iranian (Dodecad) 17.04
16 Iranians (Behar) 17.07
17 Cypriots (Behar) 17.39
18 Assyrian (Dodecad) 17.49
19 Georgia_Jews (Behar) 17.53
20 Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) 17.54
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 51.7% Kurd (Dodecad) + 48.3% Morocco_Jews (Behar) @ 5.57
2 50.1% Morocco_Jews (Behar) + 49.9% Iranians (Behar) @ 5.63
3 78.4% Lebanese (Behar) + 21.6% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) @ 5.65
4 52.2% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) + 47.8% Iranians (Behar) @ 5.77
5 51.4% Kurds (Yunusbayev) + 48.6% Morocco_Jews (Behar) @ 5.85
6 78.7% Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) + 21.3% Canarias (1000Genomes) @ 5.92
7 50.1% Morocco_Jews (Behar) + 49.9% Iranian (Dodecad) @ 6
8 79.3% Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) + 20.7% Portuguese (Dodecad) @ 6.02
9 79.4% Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) + 20.6% Murcia (1000Genomes) @ 6.04
10 73.4% Iranian_Jews (Behar) + 26.6% Portuguese (Dodecad) @ 6.08
11 79.4% Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) + 20.6% Extremadura (1000Genomes) @ 6.22
12 79.5% Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) + 20.5% Galicia (1000Genomes) @ 6.26
13 73.4% Iranian_Jews (Behar) + 26.6% Extremadura (1000Genomes) @ 6.26
14 71.6% Lebanese (Behar) + 28.4% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) @ 6.3
15 80.4% Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) + 19.6% Castilla_Y_Leon (1000Genomes) @ 6.31
16 80.9% Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) + 19.1% Spanish (Dodecad) @ 6.31
17 84.9% Lebanese (Behar) + 15.1% Burusho (HGDP) @ 6.34
18 81.1% Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) + 18.9% Castilla_La_Mancha (1000Genomes) @ 6.37
19 73.5% Iranian_Jews (Behar) + 26.5% Galicia (1000Genomes) @ 6.38
20 50.4% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) + 49.6% Kurd (Dodecad) @ 6.38
One of them is you, isn't it?
I think 5-6% North European definitely indicates some European ancestry. It just can't be from Persians or Kurds because said groups score the same percentage.
Trouble
07-29-2020, 10:51 PM
Syrians seem to have the highest west asian out of all levantines. I get syrian as my #1 using my unconverted 23andme kit.
I think what happened is that the "Syrian" reference on there is probably from far western Syria near Lebanon and represents unadmixed Levantines or something like that. Whereas the majority of Syrians are located further east and north and more likely to mesopotamian or Turk/Kurdish shifted.
Marlez
07-30-2020, 01:33 AM
I don't get it how Syrians are deemed as Arab and not Turks when they have exactly the same DNA.
CommonSense
07-30-2020, 05:57 PM
If you find more kits you can make an average yourself and ask Lukasz to place it on vahaduo.
Ahaddad
07-30-2020, 08:43 PM
It’s compatible to Syrians, I Know 4 kits from Homs “Sunni Arab”Muslim they are close to your results.They aren’t related and share close results.
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 35.19
2 West_Asian 24.42
3 West_Med 12.93
4 Red_Sea 8.08
5 North_Atlantic 7.17
6 South_Asian 4.13
7 Northeast_African 2.12
8 Sub-Saharan 1.78
9 Baltic 1.75
10 East_Asian 0.99
11 Oceanian 0.72
12 Siberian 0.59
13 Amerindian 0.11
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Lebanese_Muslim 5.72
2 Syrian 7.26
3 Turkish 9.5
4 Cyprian 9.83
5 Assyrian 10.01
6 Iranian_Jewish 10.32
7 Kurdish_Jewish 10.54
8 Jordanian 11.98
9 Georgian_Jewish 12.3
10 Lebanese_Druze 12.66
11 Azeri 13.35
12 Lebanese_Christian 13.4
13 Samaritan 13.47
14 Palestinian 13.52
15 Armenian 13.68
16 Tunisian_Jewish 13.88
17 Sephardic_Jewish 14.31
18 Libyan_Jewish 14.43
19 South_Italian 16.09
20 Algerian_Jewish 16.24
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 54.9% Tunisian_Jewish + 45.1% Kurdish @ 1.87
2 55.1% Tunisian_Jewish + 44.9% Iranian @ 1.88
3 53.9% Libyan_Jewish + 46.1% Kurdish @ 2.17
4 54.1% Libyan_Jewish + 45.9% Iranian @ 2.42
5 86.8% Lebanese_Muslim + 13.2% Tadjik @ 2.61
6 51% Azeri + 49% Tunisian_Jewish @ 2.7
7 52% Azeri + 48% Libyan_Jewish @ 2.78
8 64.8% Lebanese_Muslim + 35.2% Turkish @ 2.95
9 87% Lebanese_Muslim + 13% Afghan_Tadjik @ 2.99
10 88.4% Lebanese_Muslim + 11.6% Afghan_Pashtun @ 3.01
11 82.8% Lebanese_Muslim + 17.2% Turkmen @ 3.05
12 80.7% Iranian_Jewish + 19.3% Spanish_Andalucia @ 3.11
13 80.3% Iranian_Jewish + 19.7% Spanish_Extremadura @ 3.13
14 51.1% Algerian_Jewish + 48.9% Iranian @ 3.16
15 82.2% Iranian_Jewish + 17.8% Spanish_Cantabria @ 3.19
16 80.5% Iranian_Jewish + 19.5% Portuguese @ 3.21
17 81% Iranian_Jewish + 19% Spanish_Galicia @ 3.22
18 81.5% Iranian_Jewish + 18.5% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 3.22
19 81.3% Iranian_Jewish + 18.7% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 3.23
20 50.8% Italian_Jewish + 49.2% Iranian @ 3.23
2
Population Percent
1 East_Med 30.94
2 West_Asian 29.48
3 West_Med 13.8
4 Red_Sea 8.22
5 Baltic 6.08
6 North_Atlantic 4.6
7 Northeast_African 2.32
8 South_Asian 1.74
9 Siberian 1.38
10 East_Asian 1.05
11 Amerindian 0.38
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Turkish 6.1
2 Georgian_Jewish 9.49
3 Assyrian 9.94
4 Azeri 10.24
5 Lebanese_Muslim 10.72
6 Armenian 10.93
7 Syrian 11.81
8 Kurdish_Jewish 12.23
9 Iranian_Jewish 12.6
10 Kurdish 13.52
11 Cyprian 13.61
12 Iranian 14.52
13 Jordanian 16.32
14 Lebanese_Christian 17.54
15 Lebanese_Druze 17.68
16 Samaritan 17.74
17 Palestinian 18.45
18 Central_Greek 18.51
19 South_Italian 18.65
20 East_Sicilian 18.68
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 56.7% Samaritan + 43.3% Kabardin @ 1.84
2 55.8% Samaritan + 44.2% Balkar @ 2.38
3 68.9% Lebanese_Muslim + 31.1% Kabardin @ 2.45
4 51.4% Samaritan + 48.6% Kumyk @ 2.59
5 68.1% Lebanese_Muslim + 31.9% Balkar @ 2.77
6 59.3% Samaritan + 40.7% Chechen @ 2.86
7 58% Samaritan + 42% North_Ossetian @ 2.87
8 55.3% Samaritan + 44.7% Adygei @ 2.87
9 70.2% Lebanese_Muslim + 29.8% North_Ossetian @ 3.09
10 67.9% Lebanese_Muslim + 32.1% Adygei @ 3.17
11 64.4% Lebanese_Muslim + 35.6% Kumyk @ 3.22
12 57.2% Lebanese_Christian + 42.8% Kabardin @ 3.34
13 66.1% Syrian + 33.9% Balkar @ 3.38
14 57.6% Samaritan + 42.4% Ossetian @ 3.42
15 67% Syrian + 33% Kabardin @ 3.51
16 71.5% Lebanese_Muslim + 28.5% Chechen @ 3.57
17 65.7% Syrian + 34.3% Adygei @ 3.6
18 68.2% Syrian + 31.8% North_Ossetian @ 3.67
19 70.1% Lebanese_Muslim + 29.9% Ossetian @ 3.68
20 62.1% Syrian + 37.9% Kumyk @ 3.81
3.
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 35.71
2 West_Asian 23.82
3 West_Med 13.34
4 Red_Sea 9
5 North_Atlantic 5.71
6 Baltic 4.96
7 South_Asian 2.59
8 Northeast_African 2.29
9 Siberian 1.03
10 Amerindian 0.83
11 East_Asian 0.72
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Lebanese_Muslim 5.53
2 Syrian 7.15
3 Cyprian 8.93
4 Turkish 10.04
5 Assyrian 10.08
6 Kurdish_Jewish 10.59
7 Iranian_Jewish 10.62
8 Jordanian 11.42
9 Georgian_Jewish 12.13
10 Lebanese_Druze 12.27
11 Samaritan 12.39
12 Lebanese_Christian 12.48
13 Palestinian 12.88
14 Tunisian_Jewish 13.86
15 Azeri 14.13
16 Libyan_Jewish 14.33
17 Armenian 14.46
18 Sephardic_Jewish 14.49
19 South_Italian 15.95
20 Algerian_Jewish 16.06
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 90% Lebanese_Muslim + 10% Tatar @ 2.48
2 91.6% Lebanese_Muslim + 8.4% Chuvash @ 2.65
3 91.8% Lebanese_Muslim + 8.2% Erzya @ 2.7
4 92% Lebanese_Muslim + 8% Kargopol_Russian @ 2.79
5 86.7% Lebanese_Muslim + 13.3% Nogay @ 2.79
6 68.4% Kurdish_Jewish + 31.6% Greek_Thessaly @ 2.81
7 73.4% Samaritan + 26.6% Tabassaran @ 2.86
8 91.6% Lebanese_Muslim + 8.4% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 2.9
9 92.3% Lebanese_Muslim + 7.7% Mari @ 2.95
10 91.7% Lebanese_Muslim + 8.3% Southwest_Russian @ 2.98
11 91.5% Lebanese_Muslim + 8.5% Ukrainian @ 3.04
12 91.3% Lebanese_Muslim + 8.7% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 3.04
13 92.7% Lebanese_Muslim + 7.3% East_Finnish @ 3.04
14 89.6% Lebanese_Muslim + 10.4% Moldavian @ 3.05
15 92.1% Lebanese_Muslim + 7.9% Russian_Smolensk @ 3.06
16 92.8% Lebanese_Muslim + 7.2% Lithuanian @ 3.07
17 92.8% Lebanese_Muslim + 7.2% Estonian @ 3.09
18 92.8% Lebanese_Muslim + 7.2% Finnish @ 3.1
19 92.3% Lebanese_Muslim + 7.7% Estonian_Polish @ 3.12
20 61.1% Kurdish_Jewish + 38.9% East_Sicilian @ 3.12
4.
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 35.45
2 West_Asian 26.24
3 West_Med 10.94
4 Red_Sea 8.78
5 North_Atlantic 5.72
6 South_Asian 4.86
7 Baltic 2.76
8 Northeast_African 2.33
9 Amerindian 1.04
10 Sub-Saharan 0.89
11 Siberian 0.42
12 Oceanian 0.3
13 East_Asian 0.27
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Lebanese_Muslim 6.36
2 Syrian 7.57
3 Assyrian 8.2
4 Iranian_Jewish 8.25
5 Kurdish_Jewish 8.75
6 Turkish 9.1
7 Georgian_Jewish 10.2
8 Cyprian 11.65
9 Azeri 11.65
10 Jordanian 12.08
11 Armenian 12.35
12 Lebanese_Druze 12.73
13 Lebanese_Christian 13.73
14 Palestinian 13.74
15 Samaritan 14.07
16 Iranian 14.6
17 Kurdish 14.65
18 Tunisian_Jewish 16.29
19 Libyan_Jewish 16.69
20 Sephardic_Jewish 16.95
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 85.5% Lebanese_Muslim + 14.5% Afghan_Pashtun @ 1.97
2 52.8% Iranian + 47.2% Tunisian_Jewish @ 2.02
3 53.4% Iranian + 46.6% Libyan_Jewish @ 2.02
4 65.7% Lebanese_Muslim + 34.3% Azeri @ 2.17
5 84.7% Lebanese_Muslim + 15.3% Tadjik @ 2.33
6 84.4% Lebanese_Muslim + 15.6% Tabassaran @ 2.41
7 88.5% Lebanese_Muslim + 11.5% Kalash @ 2.44
8 53.3% Kurdish + 46.7% Libyan_Jewish @ 2.48
9 83.8% Lebanese_Muslim + 16.2% Lezgin @ 2.66
10 52.7% Kurdish + 47.3% Tunisian_Jewish @ 2.68
11 88.1% Lebanese_Muslim + 11.9% Balochi @ 2.7
12 79.7% Lebanese_Muslim + 20.3% Turkmen @ 2.82
13 88.3% Lebanese_Muslim + 11.7% Brahui @ 2.82
14 84.8% Lebanese_Muslim + 15.2% Afghan_Tadjik @ 2.83
15 80.2% Lebanese_Muslim + 19.8% Kumyk @ 2.83
16 84% Lebanese_Muslim + 16% Chechen @ 2.87
17 61.7% Syrian + 38.3% Azeri @ 2.87
18 71.6% Lebanese_Muslim + 28.4% Iranian @ 2.87
19 86.9% Lebanese_Muslim + 13.1% Makrani @ 2.9
20 71.8% Lebanese_Muslim + 28.2% Kurdish @ 2.95
Marlez
07-30-2020, 08:53 PM
It’s compatible to Syrians, I Know 4 kits from Homs “Sunni Arab”Muslim they are close to your results.They aren’t related and share close results.
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 35.19
2 West_Asian 24.42
3 West_Med 12.93
4 Red_Sea 8.08
5 North_Atlantic 7.17
6 South_Asian 4.13
7 Northeast_African 2.12
8 Sub-Saharan 1.78
9 Baltic 1.75
10 East_Asian 0.99
11 Oceanian 0.72
12 Siberian 0.59
13 Amerindian 0.11
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Lebanese_Muslim 5.72
2 Syrian 7.26
3 Turkish 9.5
4 Cyprian 9.83
5 Assyrian 10.01
6 Iranian_Jewish 10.32
7 Kurdish_Jewish 10.54
8 Jordanian 11.98
9 Georgian_Jewish 12.3
10 Lebanese_Druze 12.66
11 Azeri 13.35
12 Lebanese_Christian 13.4
13 Samaritan 13.47
14 Palestinian 13.52
15 Armenian 13.68
16 Tunisian_Jewish 13.88
17 Sephardic_Jewish 14.31
18 Libyan_Jewish 14.43
19 South_Italian 16.09
20 Algerian_Jewish 16.24
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 54.9% Tunisian_Jewish + 45.1% Kurdish @ 1.87
2 55.1% Tunisian_Jewish + 44.9% Iranian @ 1.88
3 53.9% Libyan_Jewish + 46.1% Kurdish @ 2.17
4 54.1% Libyan_Jewish + 45.9% Iranian @ 2.42
5 86.8% Lebanese_Muslim + 13.2% Tadjik @ 2.61
6 51% Azeri + 49% Tunisian_Jewish @ 2.7
7 52% Azeri + 48% Libyan_Jewish @ 2.78
8 64.8% Lebanese_Muslim + 35.2% Turkish @ 2.95
9 87% Lebanese_Muslim + 13% Afghan_Tadjik @ 2.99
10 88.4% Lebanese_Muslim + 11.6% Afghan_Pashtun @ 3.01
11 82.8% Lebanese_Muslim + 17.2% Turkmen @ 3.05
12 80.7% Iranian_Jewish + 19.3% Spanish_Andalucia @ 3.11
13 80.3% Iranian_Jewish + 19.7% Spanish_Extremadura @ 3.13
14 51.1% Algerian_Jewish + 48.9% Iranian @ 3.16
15 82.2% Iranian_Jewish + 17.8% Spanish_Cantabria @ 3.19
16 80.5% Iranian_Jewish + 19.5% Portuguese @ 3.21
17 81% Iranian_Jewish + 19% Spanish_Galicia @ 3.22
18 81.5% Iranian_Jewish + 18.5% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 3.22
19 81.3% Iranian_Jewish + 18.7% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 3.23
20 50.8% Italian_Jewish + 49.2% Iranian @ 3.23
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Population Percent
1 East_Med 30.94
2 West_Asian 29.48
3 West_Med 13.8
4 Red_Sea 8.22
5 Baltic 6.08
6 North_Atlantic 4.6
7 Northeast_African 2.32
8 South_Asian 1.74
9 Siberian 1.38
10 East_Asian 1.05
11 Amerindian 0.38
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Turkish 6.1
2 Georgian_Jewish 9.49
3 Assyrian 9.94
4 Azeri 10.24
5 Lebanese_Muslim 10.72
6 Armenian 10.93
7 Syrian 11.81
8 Kurdish_Jewish 12.23
9 Iranian_Jewish 12.6
10 Kurdish 13.52
11 Cyprian 13.61
12 Iranian 14.52
13 Jordanian 16.32
14 Lebanese_Christian 17.54
15 Lebanese_Druze 17.68
16 Samaritan 17.74
17 Palestinian 18.45
18 Central_Greek 18.51
19 South_Italian 18.65
20 East_Sicilian 18.68
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 56.7% Samaritan + 43.3% Kabardin @ 1.84
2 55.8% Samaritan + 44.2% Balkar @ 2.38
3 68.9% Lebanese_Muslim + 31.1% Kabardin @ 2.45
4 51.4% Samaritan + 48.6% Kumyk @ 2.59
5 68.1% Lebanese_Muslim + 31.9% Balkar @ 2.77
6 59.3% Samaritan + 40.7% Chechen @ 2.86
7 58% Samaritan + 42% North_Ossetian @ 2.87
8 55.3% Samaritan + 44.7% Adygei @ 2.87
9 70.2% Lebanese_Muslim + 29.8% North_Ossetian @ 3.09
10 67.9% Lebanese_Muslim + 32.1% Adygei @ 3.17
11 64.4% Lebanese_Muslim + 35.6% Kumyk @ 3.22
12 57.2% Lebanese_Christian + 42.8% Kabardin @ 3.34
13 66.1% Syrian + 33.9% Balkar @ 3.38
14 57.6% Samaritan + 42.4% Ossetian @ 3.42
15 67% Syrian + 33% Kabardin @ 3.51
16 71.5% Lebanese_Muslim + 28.5% Chechen @ 3.57
17 65.7% Syrian + 34.3% Adygei @ 3.6
18 68.2% Syrian + 31.8% North_Ossetian @ 3.67
19 70.1% Lebanese_Muslim + 29.9% Ossetian @ 3.68
20 62.1% Syrian + 37.9% Kumyk @ 3.81
3.
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 35.71
2 West_Asian 23.82
3 West_Med 13.34
4 Red_Sea 9
5 North_Atlantic 5.71
6 Baltic 4.96
7 South_Asian 2.59
8 Northeast_African 2.29
9 Siberian 1.03
10 Amerindian 0.83
11 East_Asian 0.72
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Lebanese_Muslim 5.53
2 Syrian 7.15
3 Cyprian 8.93
4 Turkish 10.04
5 Assyrian 10.08
6 Kurdish_Jewish 10.59
7 Iranian_Jewish 10.62
8 Jordanian 11.42
9 Georgian_Jewish 12.13
10 Lebanese_Druze 12.27
11 Samaritan 12.39
12 Lebanese_Christian 12.48
13 Palestinian 12.88
14 Tunisian_Jewish 13.86
15 Azeri 14.13
16 Libyan_Jewish 14.33
17 Armenian 14.46
18 Sephardic_Jewish 14.49
19 South_Italian 15.95
20 Algerian_Jewish 16.06
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 90% Lebanese_Muslim + 10% Tatar @ 2.48
2 91.6% Lebanese_Muslim + 8.4% Chuvash @ 2.65
3 91.8% Lebanese_Muslim + 8.2% Erzya @ 2.7
4 92% Lebanese_Muslim + 8% Kargopol_Russian @ 2.79
5 86.7% Lebanese_Muslim + 13.3% Nogay @ 2.79
6 68.4% Kurdish_Jewish + 31.6% Greek_Thessaly @ 2.81
7 73.4% Samaritan + 26.6% Tabassaran @ 2.86
8 91.6% Lebanese_Muslim + 8.4% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 2.9
9 92.3% Lebanese_Muslim + 7.7% Mari @ 2.95
10 91.7% Lebanese_Muslim + 8.3% Southwest_Russian @ 2.98
11 91.5% Lebanese_Muslim + 8.5% Ukrainian @ 3.04
12 91.3% Lebanese_Muslim + 8.7% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 3.04
13 92.7% Lebanese_Muslim + 7.3% East_Finnish @ 3.04
14 89.6% Lebanese_Muslim + 10.4% Moldavian @ 3.05
15 92.1% Lebanese_Muslim + 7.9% Russian_Smolensk @ 3.06
16 92.8% Lebanese_Muslim + 7.2% Lithuanian @ 3.07
17 92.8% Lebanese_Muslim + 7.2% Estonian @ 3.09
18 92.8% Lebanese_Muslim + 7.2% Finnish @ 3.1
19 92.3% Lebanese_Muslim + 7.7% Estonian_Polish @ 3.12
20 61.1% Kurdish_Jewish + 38.9% East_Sicilian @ 3.12
4.
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 35.45
2 West_Asian 26.24
3 West_Med 10.94
4 Red_Sea 8.78
5 North_Atlantic 5.72
6 South_Asian 4.86
7 Baltic 2.76
8 Northeast_African 2.33
9 Amerindian 1.04
10 Sub-Saharan 0.89
11 Siberian 0.42
12 Oceanian 0.3
13 East_Asian 0.27
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Lebanese_Muslim 6.36
2 Syrian 7.57
3 Assyrian 8.2
4 Iranian_Jewish 8.25
5 Kurdish_Jewish 8.75
6 Turkish 9.1
7 Georgian_Jewish 10.2
8 Cyprian 11.65
9 Azeri 11.65
10 Jordanian 12.08
11 Armenian 12.35
12 Lebanese_Druze 12.73
13 Lebanese_Christian 13.73
14 Palestinian 13.74
15 Samaritan 14.07
16 Iranian 14.6
17 Kurdish 14.65
18 Tunisian_Jewish 16.29
19 Libyan_Jewish 16.69
20 Sephardic_Jewish 16.95
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 85.5% Lebanese_Muslim + 14.5% Afghan_Pashtun @ 1.97
2 52.8% Iranian + 47.2% Tunisian_Jewish @ 2.02
3 53.4% Iranian + 46.6% Libyan_Jewish @ 2.02
4 65.7% Lebanese_Muslim + 34.3% Azeri @ 2.17
5 84.7% Lebanese_Muslim + 15.3% Tadjik @ 2.33
6 84.4% Lebanese_Muslim + 15.6% Tabassaran @ 2.41
7 88.5% Lebanese_Muslim + 11.5% Kalash @ 2.44
8 53.3% Kurdish + 46.7% Libyan_Jewish @ 2.48
9 83.8% Lebanese_Muslim + 16.2% Lezgin @ 2.66
10 52.7% Kurdish + 47.3% Tunisian_Jewish @ 2.68
11 88.1% Lebanese_Muslim + 11.9% Balochi @ 2.7
12 79.7% Lebanese_Muslim + 20.3% Turkmen @ 2.82
13 88.3% Lebanese_Muslim + 11.7% Brahui @ 2.82
14 84.8% Lebanese_Muslim + 15.2% Afghan_Tadjik @ 2.83
15 80.2% Lebanese_Muslim + 19.8% Kumyk @ 2.83
16 84% Lebanese_Muslim + 16% Chechen @ 2.87
17 61.7% Syrian + 38.3% Azeri @ 2.87
18 71.6% Lebanese_Muslim + 28.4% Iranian @ 2.87
19 86.9% Lebanese_Muslim + 13.1% Makrani @ 2.9
20 71.8% Lebanese_Muslim + 28.2% Kurdish @ 2.95
Interesting, nearly all Syrians are modeled as half Sephardic Jew half Iranian/Kurdish. Syrians are closer to Armenians than what I anticipated.
Ahaddad
07-30-2020, 09:01 PM
Interesting, nearly all Syrians are modeled as half Sephardic Jew half Iranian/Kurdish. Syrians are closer to Armenians than what I anticipated.
The Syrians maybe close to west Armenians who lived in Syria area since 2000 years or more, East Armenians has much high west Asian and lower Red Sea and East med, the Armenians from west having many affinity with Syrians and they always has presence in the levant area with many old church’s, but I think it’s wrong say Turkish because many people from southeastern Turkey are more linked to Syrians because geographical position than to real Turks who has Siberian ancestry. Name Turk are artificial to some native middle eastern that living in turkey, but they are in origin native to the area between levant and Anatolia.
Marlez
07-30-2020, 09:10 PM
The Syrians maybe close to west Armenians who lived in Syria area since 2000 years or more, East Armenians has much high west Asian and lower Red Sea and East med, the Armenians from west having many affinity with Syrians and they always has presence in the levant area with many old church’s, but I think it’s wrong say Turkish because many people from southeastern Turkey are more linked to Syrians because geographical position than to real Turks who has Siberian ancestry. Name Turk are artificial to some native middle eastern that living in turkey, but they are in origin native to the area between levant and Anatolia.
Thanks for the insights. Do you have GEDMATCH of Iraqis? I think they score high "West Asian" as well.
Thanks for the insights. Do you have GEDMATCH of Iraqis? I think they score high "West Asian" as well.
We do
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?233942-Iraqi-GEDmatch-samples&p=6458019&viewfull=1#post6458019
goreleli
07-31-2020, 01:50 AM
can you add their dodecad k12b results?
Ahaddad
07-31-2020, 02:25 AM
can you add their dodecad k12b results?
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 37.34
2 Southwest_Asian 16.79
3 Gedrosia 16.02
4 Atlantic_Med 14.65
5 Northwest_African 4.11
6 North_European 4.06
7 East_Asian 2.69
8 Sub_Saharan 1.37
9 South_Asian 1.33
10 East_African 1.22
11 Siberian 0.41
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Lebanese (Behar) 9.71
2 Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) 11.48
3 Syrians (Behar) 12.51
4 Turks (Behar) 12.59
5 Turkish (Dodecad) 12.76
6 Jordanians (Behar) 13.9
7 Iraq_Jews (Behar) 14.29
8 Druze (HGDP) 14.79
9 Sephardic_Jews (Behar) 15.18
10 Iranian_Jews (Behar) 15.29
11 Kurd (Dodecad) 15.33
12 Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) 15.43
13 Assyrian (Dodecad) 15.5
14 Kurds (Yunusbayev) 15.52
15 Georgia_Jews (Behar) 15.7
16 Cypriots (Behar) 15.77
17 Iranian (Dodecad) 16.36
18 Morocco_Jews (Behar) 16.63
19 Iranians (Behar) 16.81
20 Palestinian (HGDP) 17.06
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 52.2% Kurd (Dodecad) + 47.8% Morocco_Jews (Behar) @ 3.78
2 51.9% Kurds (Yunusbayev) + 48.1% Morocco_Jews (Behar) @ 4.19
3 50.4% Iranian (Dodecad) + 49.6% Morocco_Jews (Behar) @ 4.28
4 52.8% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) + 47.2% Iranians (Behar) @ 4.37
5 50.3% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) + 49.7% Kurd (Dodecad) @ 4.55
6 50.3% Morocco_Jews (Behar) + 49.7% Iranians (Behar) @ 4.61
7 74.9% Iranian_Jews (Behar) + 25.1% Canarias (1000Genomes) @ 4.73
8 80.7% Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) + 19.3% Canarias (1000Genomes) @ 4.87
9 60.5% Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) + 39.5% Morocco_Jews (Behar) @ 4.9
10 75.7% Iranian_Jews (Behar) + 24.3% Portuguese (Dodecad) @ 4.99
11 52.1% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) + 47.9% Iranian (Dodecad) @ 5.11
12 75.7% Iranian_Jews (Behar) + 24.3% Extremadura (1000Genomes) @ 5.16
13 77.6% Cypriots (Behar) + 22.4% Makrani (HGDP) @ 5.26
14 50.6% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) + 49.4% Kurds (Yunusbayev) @ 5.33
15 81.7% Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) + 18.3% Murcia (1000Genomes) @ 5.41
16 75.9% Iranian_Jews (Behar) + 24.1% Galicia (1000Genomes) @ 5.42
17 76.9% Iranian_Jews (Behar) + 23.1% Castilla_Y_Leon (1000Genomes) @ 5.42
18 76% Iranian_Jews (Behar) + 24% Murcia (1000Genomes) @ 5.44
19 77.4% Iranian_Jews (Behar) + 22.6% Spanish (Dodecad) @ 5.5
20 81.7% Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) + 18.3% Portuguese (Dodecad) @ 5.52
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Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 39.8
2 Southwest_Asian 16.54
3 Gedrosia 15.39
4 Atlantic_Med 12.87
5 North_European 4.69
6 Northwest_African 3.98
7 South_Asian 1.93
8 East_African 1.78
9 Siberian 1.44
10 Sub_Saharan 0.99
11 Southeast_Asian 0.6
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Lebanese (Behar) 8.4
2 Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) 9.21
3 Turks (Behar) 10.76
4 Turkish (Dodecad) 11.19
5 Syrians (Behar) 12.05
6 Iraq_Jews (Behar) 12.62
7 Druze (HGDP) 12.92
8 Georgia_Jews (Behar) 13.17
9 Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) 13.18
10 Iranian_Jews (Behar) 13.3
11 Assyrian (Dodecad) 13.37
12 Jordanians (Behar) 13.51
13 Kurds (Yunusbayev) 14.41
14 Kurd (Dodecad) 14.52
15 Cypriots (Behar) 14.67
16 Iranian (Dodecad) 15.33
17 Armenian (Dodecad) 15.58
18 Armenians_15 (Yunusbayev) 15.83
19 Sephardic_Jews (Behar) 15.98
20 Iranians (Behar) 16.45
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 67.3% Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) + 32.7% Morocco_Jews (Behar) @ 3.28
2 84.4% Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) + 15.6% Canarias (1000Genomes) @ 3.84
3 65.2% Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) + 34.8% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) @ 4.13
4 78.3% Iranian_Jews (Behar) + 21.7% Canarias (1000Genomes) @ 4.31
5 73.7% Druze (HGDP) + 26.3% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) @ 4.4
6 83.8% Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) + 16.2% Algerian (Dodecad) @ 4.44
7 52.6% Kurd (Dodecad) + 47.4% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) @ 4.54
8 85.4% Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) + 14.6% Portuguese (Dodecad) @ 4.55
9 85.6% Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) + 14.4% Murcia (1000Genomes) @ 4.58
10 56% Kurds (Yunusbayev) + 44% Morocco_Jews (Behar) @ 4.58
11 76.1% Lebanese (Behar) + 23.9% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) @ 4.6
12 71.8% Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) + 28.2% Sicilian (Dodecad) @ 4.61
13 79% Iranian_Jews (Behar) + 21% Portuguese (Dodecad) @ 4.62
14 86.2% Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) + 13.8% Castilla_Y_Leon (1000Genomes) @ 4.69
15 85.5% Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) + 14.5% Extremadura (1000Genomes) @ 4.71
16 85.6% Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) + 14.4% Galicia (1000Genomes) @ 4.73
17 67.8% Lebanese (Behar) + 32.2% Iranian (Dodecad) @ 4.74
18 51.1% Iranian (Dodecad) + 48.9% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) @ 4.75
19 79% Iranian_Jews (Behar) + 21% Extremadura (1000Genomes) @ 4.76
20 55.8% Kurd (Dodecad) + 44.2% Morocco_Jews (Behar) @ 4.77
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 35.03
2 Gedrosia 16.3
3 Southwest_Asian 15.65
4 Atlantic_Med 13.66
5 North_European 5.33
6 East_African 4.84
7 Northwest_African 3.66
8 Sub_Saharan 1.73
9 Siberian 1.12
10 Southeast_Asian 1.1
11 East_Asian 0.9
12 South_Asian 0.68
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Lebanese (Behar) 11.31
2 Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) 13.18
3 Syrians (Behar) 13.65
4 Turks (Behar) 13.97
5 Turkish (Dodecad) 14.27
6 Jordanians (Behar) 14.46
7 Kurd (Dodecad) 15.53
8 Kurds (Yunusbayev) 15.89
9 Iranian (Dodecad) 16.44
10 Iranians (Behar) 16.59
11 Sephardic_Jews (Behar) 16.69
12 Iraq_Jews (Behar) 16.86
13 Druze (HGDP) 17.39
14 Iranian_Jews (Behar) 17.58
15 Palestinian (HGDP) 17.69
16 Morocco_Jews (Behar) 17.77
17 Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) 17.79
18 Georgia_Jews (Behar) 17.85
19 Assyrian (Dodecad) 17.95
20 Cypriots (Behar) 18.34
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 53.9% Kurd (Dodecad) + 46.1% Morocco_Jews (Behar) @ 6.01
2 52% Iranians (Behar) + 48% Morocco_Jews (Behar) @ 6.07
3 76.7% Lebanese (Behar) + 23.3% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) @ 6.14
4 52.2% Iranian (Dodecad) + 47.8% Morocco_Jews (Behar) @ 6.24
5 50.2% Iranians (Behar) + 49.8% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) @ 6.34
6 78.6% Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) + 21.4% Canarias (1000Genomes) @ 6.38
7 53.3% Kurds (Yunusbayev) + 46.7% Morocco_Jews (Behar) @ 6.5
8 68.8% Lebanese (Behar) + 31.2% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) @ 6.6
9 52.2% Kurd (Dodecad) + 47.8% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) @ 6.89
10 55.2% Iranians (Behar) + 44.8% Ashkenazi (Dodecad) @ 6.9
11 84% Lebanese (Behar) + 16% Burusho (HGDP) @ 7.04
12 79.9% Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) + 20.1% Portuguese (Dodecad) @ 7.13
13 54.4% Iranians (Behar) + 45.6% Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) @ 7.17
14 79.8% Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) + 20.2% Extremadura (1000Genomes) @ 7.2
15 50.5% Iranian (Dodecad) + 49.5% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) @ 7.2
16 83.3% Lebanese (Behar) + 16.7% Pathan (HGDP) @ 7.22
17 85.4% Lebanese (Behar) + 14.6% Jatt (Dodecad) @ 7.27
18 80.2% Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) + 19.8% Murcia (1000Genomes) @ 7.3
19 61.6% Jordanians (Behar) + 38.4% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) @ 7.32
20 80.1% Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) + 19.9% Galicia (1000Genomes) @ 7.34
goreleli
07-31-2020, 02:40 AM
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goreleli
07-31-2020, 02:41 AM
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goreleli
07-31-2020, 02:41 AM
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 37.34
2 Southwest_Asian 16.79
3 Gedrosia 16.02
4 Atlantic_Med 14.65
5 Northwest_African 4.11
6 North_European 4.06
7 East_Asian 2.69
8 Sub_Saharan 1.37
9 South_Asian 1.33
10 East_African 1.22
11 Siberian 0.41
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Lebanese (Behar) 9.71
2 Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) 11.48
3 Syrians (Behar) 12.51
4 Turks (Behar) 12.59
5 Turkish (Dodecad) 12.76
6 Jordanians (Behar) 13.9
7 Iraq_Jews (Behar) 14.29
8 Druze (HGDP) 14.79
9 Sephardic_Jews (Behar) 15.18
10 Iranian_Jews (Behar) 15.29
11 Kurd (Dodecad) 15.33
12 Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) 15.43
13 Assyrian (Dodecad) 15.5
14 Kurds (Yunusbayev) 15.52
15 Georgia_Jews (Behar) 15.7
16 Cypriots (Behar) 15.77
17 Iranian (Dodecad) 16.36
18 Morocco_Jews (Behar) 16.63
19 Iranians (Behar) 16.81
20 Palestinian (HGDP) 17.06
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 52.2% Kurd (Dodecad) + 47.8% Morocco_Jews (Behar) @ 3.78
2 51.9% Kurds (Yunusbayev) + 48.1% Morocco_Jews (Behar) @ 4.19
3 50.4% Iranian (Dodecad) + 49.6% Morocco_Jews (Behar) @ 4.28
4 52.8% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) + 47.2% Iranians (Behar) @ 4.37
5 50.3% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) + 49.7% Kurd (Dodecad) @ 4.55
6 50.3% Morocco_Jews (Behar) + 49.7% Iranians (Behar) @ 4.61
7 74.9% Iranian_Jews (Behar) + 25.1% Canarias (1000Genomes) @ 4.73
8 80.7% Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) + 19.3% Canarias (1000Genomes) @ 4.87
9 60.5% Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) + 39.5% Morocco_Jews (Behar) @ 4.9
10 75.7% Iranian_Jews (Behar) + 24.3% Portuguese (Dodecad) @ 4.99
11 52.1% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) + 47.9% Iranian (Dodecad) @ 5.11
12 75.7% Iranian_Jews (Behar) + 24.3% Extremadura (1000Genomes) @ 5.16
13 77.6% Cypriots (Behar) + 22.4% Makrani (HGDP) @ 5.26
14 50.6% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) + 49.4% Kurds (Yunusbayev) @ 5.33
15 81.7% Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) + 18.3% Murcia (1000Genomes) @ 5.41
16 75.9% Iranian_Jews (Behar) + 24.1% Galicia (1000Genomes) @ 5.42
17 76.9% Iranian_Jews (Behar) + 23.1% Castilla_Y_Leon (1000Genomes) @ 5.42
18 76% Iranian_Jews (Behar) + 24% Murcia (1000Genomes) @ 5.44
19 77.4% Iranian_Jews (Behar) + 22.6% Spanish (Dodecad) @ 5.5
20 81.7% Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) + 18.3% Portuguese (Dodecad) @ 5.52
2
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 39.8
2 Southwest_Asian 16.54
3 Gedrosia 15.39
4 Atlantic_Med 12.87
5 North_European 4.69
6 Northwest_African 3.98
7 South_Asian 1.93
8 East_African 1.78
9 Siberian 1.44
10 Sub_Saharan 0.99
11 Southeast_Asian 0.6
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Lebanese (Behar) 8.4
2 Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) 9.21
3 Turks (Behar) 10.76
4 Turkish (Dodecad) 11.19
5 Syrians (Behar) 12.05
6 Iraq_Jews (Behar) 12.62
7 Druze (HGDP) 12.92
8 Georgia_Jews (Behar) 13.17
9 Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) 13.18
10 Iranian_Jews (Behar) 13.3
11 Assyrian (Dodecad) 13.37
12 Jordanians (Behar) 13.51
13 Kurds (Yunusbayev) 14.41
14 Kurd (Dodecad) 14.52
15 Cypriots (Behar) 14.67
16 Iranian (Dodecad) 15.33
17 Armenian (Dodecad) 15.58
18 Armenians_15 (Yunusbayev) 15.83
19 Sephardic_Jews (Behar) 15.98
20 Iranians (Behar) 16.45
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 67.3% Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) + 32.7% Morocco_Jews (Behar) @ 3.28
2 84.4% Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) + 15.6% Canarias (1000Genomes) @ 3.84
3 65.2% Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) + 34.8% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) @ 4.13
4 78.3% Iranian_Jews (Behar) + 21.7% Canarias (1000Genomes) @ 4.31
5 73.7% Druze (HGDP) + 26.3% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) @ 4.4
6 83.8% Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) + 16.2% Algerian (Dodecad) @ 4.44
7 52.6% Kurd (Dodecad) + 47.4% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) @ 4.54
8 85.4% Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) + 14.6% Portuguese (Dodecad) @ 4.55
9 85.6% Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) + 14.4% Murcia (1000Genomes) @ 4.58
10 56% Kurds (Yunusbayev) + 44% Morocco_Jews (Behar) @ 4.58
11 76.1% Lebanese (Behar) + 23.9% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) @ 4.6
12 71.8% Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) + 28.2% Sicilian (Dodecad) @ 4.61
13 79% Iranian_Jews (Behar) + 21% Portuguese (Dodecad) @ 4.62
14 86.2% Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) + 13.8% Castilla_Y_Leon (1000Genomes) @ 4.69
15 85.5% Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) + 14.5% Extremadura (1000Genomes) @ 4.71
16 85.6% Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) + 14.4% Galicia (1000Genomes) @ 4.73
17 67.8% Lebanese (Behar) + 32.2% Iranian (Dodecad) @ 4.74
18 51.1% Iranian (Dodecad) + 48.9% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) @ 4.75
19 79% Iranian_Jews (Behar) + 21% Extremadura (1000Genomes) @ 4.76
20 55.8% Kurd (Dodecad) + 44.2% Morocco_Jews (Behar) @ 4.77
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 35.03
2 Gedrosia 16.3
3 Southwest_Asian 15.65
4 Atlantic_Med 13.66
5 North_European 5.33
6 East_African 4.84
7 Northwest_African 3.66
8 Sub_Saharan 1.73
9 Siberian 1.12
10 Southeast_Asian 1.1
11 East_Asian 0.9
12 South_Asian 0.68
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Lebanese (Behar) 11.31
2 Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) 13.18
3 Syrians (Behar) 13.65
4 Turks (Behar) 13.97
5 Turkish (Dodecad) 14.27
6 Jordanians (Behar) 14.46
7 Kurd (Dodecad) 15.53
8 Kurds (Yunusbayev) 15.89
9 Iranian (Dodecad) 16.44
10 Iranians (Behar) 16.59
11 Sephardic_Jews (Behar) 16.69
12 Iraq_Jews (Behar) 16.86
13 Druze (HGDP) 17.39
14 Iranian_Jews (Behar) 17.58
15 Palestinian (HGDP) 17.69
16 Morocco_Jews (Behar) 17.77
17 Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) 17.79
18 Georgia_Jews (Behar) 17.85
19 Assyrian (Dodecad) 17.95
20 Cypriots (Behar) 18.34
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 53.9% Kurd (Dodecad) + 46.1% Morocco_Jews (Behar) @ 6.01
2 52% Iranians (Behar) + 48% Morocco_Jews (Behar) @ 6.07
3 76.7% Lebanese (Behar) + 23.3% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) @ 6.14
4 52.2% Iranian (Dodecad) + 47.8% Morocco_Jews (Behar) @ 6.24
5 50.2% Iranians (Behar) + 49.8% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) @ 6.34
6 78.6% Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) + 21.4% Canarias (1000Genomes) @ 6.38
7 53.3% Kurds (Yunusbayev) + 46.7% Morocco_Jews (Behar) @ 6.5
8 68.8% Lebanese (Behar) + 31.2% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) @ 6.6
9 52.2% Kurd (Dodecad) + 47.8% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) @ 6.89
10 55.2% Iranians (Behar) + 44.8% Ashkenazi (Dodecad) @ 6.9
11 84% Lebanese (Behar) + 16% Burusho (HGDP) @ 7.04
12 79.9% Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) + 20.1% Portuguese (Dodecad) @ 7.13
13 54.4% Iranians (Behar) + 45.6% Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) @ 7.17
14 79.8% Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) + 20.2% Extremadura (1000Genomes) @ 7.2
15 50.5% Iranian (Dodecad) + 49.5% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) @ 7.2
16 83.3% Lebanese (Behar) + 16.7% Pathan (HGDP) @ 7.22
17 85.4% Lebanese (Behar) + 14.6% Jatt (Dodecad) @ 7.27
18 80.2% Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) + 19.8% Murcia (1000Genomes) @ 7.3
19 61.6% Jordanians (Behar) + 38.4% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) @ 7.32
20 80.1% Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) + 19.9% Galicia (1000Genomes) @ 7.34
i think all these has some turkish and kurdish roots. they has about %3 mongoloid genes and higher gedrosia than average levantines.
kundur
07-31-2020, 08:09 AM
"Fuck Turkey" in the profile, but still cherry picking the inaccurate calculator's result, showing Turks as no.1 match, to hide the African admixture which is obviously perceived as problematic. Syrians are in identity crisis obviously and in an ethnic identity vacuum. Pretty much like French but in Middle Eastern context. French try to identify with a single Catholic identity, Syrians are religious melting pot too. The case of Syrians seem to be more dire and tragic.
I am not sure if many Turks would be happy to see such people having (virtual) overlaps with them.
ramillo
07-31-2020, 12:10 PM
One of them is you, isn't it?
I think 5-6% North European definitely indicates some European ancestry. It just can't be from Persians or Kurds because said groups score the same percentage.
one of them is me yes, can you message Lukasz to add a Syrian reference that looks like this to Eurogenes K13 updated and name it Sunni_Syrian
50.0% Kurd + 50.0% Sephardic Jew
ramillo
07-31-2020, 12:12 PM
"Fuck Turkey" in the profile, but still cherry picking the inaccurate calculator's result, showing Turks as no.1 match, to hide the African admixture which is obviously perceived as problematic. Syrians are in identity crisis obviously and in an ethnic identity vacuum. Pretty much like French but in Middle Eastern context. French try to identify with a single Catholic identity, Syrians are religious melting pot too. The case of Syrians seem to be more dire and tragic.
I am not sure if many Turks would be happy to see such people having (virtual) overlaps with them.
Turkish doesn't mean a Turk. Why would a person want to be a 160cm Turkic Mongoloid piece of shit? Syrians are related to Eastern Turkish people who are not Turks but Kurds.
Interesting, nearly all Syrians are modeled as half Sephardic Jew half Iranian/Kurdish. Syrians are closer to Armenians than what I anticipated.
Do you think that Sephardis are the closest what we have to ancient Levantines?
kundur
07-31-2020, 12:18 PM
Turkish doesn't mean a Turk. Why would a person want to be a 160cm Turkic Mongoloid piece of shit? Syrians are related to Eastern Turkish people who are not Turks but Kurds.
Whatever you like Levantine. By US "one drop" standards, results are mulatto. Black.
Do you think that Sephardis are the closest what we have to ancient Levantines?
They aren't. Sephardim are basically the same as Ashkenazim minus the North European influence in the latter. Logically they're more Middle Eastern than Ashkenazim but still not entirely.
Ajeje Brazorf
07-31-2020, 12:19 PM
Do you think that Sephardis are the closest what we have to ancient Levantines?
They are a bit distant from any modern population, but the closest ones seem to be the Samaritans and Lebanese Christians.
<nav> </nav>
<tbody>
Distance to:
SYR_Ebla_EMBA
0.02771390
Lebanese_Christian
0.02920650
Samaritan
0.03346440
Palestinian_Beit_Sahour
0.03504682
Druze
0.03587553
Lebanese_Druze
</tbody>
ramillo
07-31-2020, 12:23 PM
They aren't. Sephardim are basically the same as Ashkenazim minus the North European influence in the latter. Logically they're more Middle Eastern than Ashkenazim but still not entirely.
Someone posted results of Syrians and they look similar to what I posted..... half North African Jew half Iranian can you make a reference that look like this and call it Sunni Syrian? All kits posted here are sunni.
Someone posted results of Syrians and they look similar to what I posted..... half North African Jew half Iranian can you make a reference that look like this and call it Sunni Syrian? All kits posted here are sunni.
I think using 3-4 samples of uncertain provenance is not good enough for a reference. Let's find some more samples. But yeah, Syrian Muslims seem to be a mix of Levantine and Iranian plus some other minor influences like African and European.
ramillo
07-31-2020, 12:48 PM
I think using 3-4 samples of uncertain provenance is not good enough for a reference. Let's find some more samples. But yeah, Syrian Muslims seem to be a mix of Levantine and Iranian plus some other minor influences like African and European.
i think someone will find this interesting, this is the results of my friend's mother
his levantine dna became sephardic jew in gedmatch, so he got half kurd half sephardic jew in mixture mode
any explanation? this is what syrians typically get in 23andme
https://i.redd.it/pua81b5mi5j41.png
Syrian results (Damascus and Beirut)
https://imgur.com/a/KWJB8p0
https://i.imgur.com/QFFGlMA_d.webp?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium
https://i.imgur.com/uxw5ZqZ_d.webp?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium
https://i.imgur.com/44PsMol_d.webp?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium
Chaos One
08-03-2020, 09:19 PM
Syrian results (Damascus and Beirut)
https://imgur.com/a/KWJB8p0
Direct ask: Red Sea is equivalent of East African in some tests?
Direct ask: Red Sea is equivalent of East African in some tests?
Nope. It's usually equivalent of Southwest Asian and peaks in the Arabian peninsula.
Chaos One
08-03-2020, 09:22 PM
Nope. It's usually equivalent of Southwest Asian and peaks in the Arabian peninsula.
So, it's not African related, or "Black" at all. Thx.
So, it's not African related, or "Black" at all. Thx.
Mostly or entirely non-African.
Vishap
08-03-2020, 09:43 PM
any explanation? this is what syrians typically get in 23andme
https://i.redd.it/pua81b5mi5j41.png
Different from a typical Armenian result.
Trouble
10-30-2020, 02:35 AM
How did Iranian DNA make it into Syria?
War Chef
10-30-2020, 02:39 AM
Is that North-Atlantic crusader or nah?
War Chef
10-30-2020, 02:42 AM
How did Iranian DNA make it into Syria?
Some of the early farmers who colonized Iran and took over the Keltminar hunter-gatherers were originally based in the Syria area (fertile crescent). So it's Syrian DNA that made it into Iran. Also remember Iran controlled Syria for a long time via. all of its Persian empires.
Trouble
10-30-2020, 02:44 AM
Some of the early farmers who colonized Iran and took over the Keltminar hunter-gatherers were originally based in the Syria area (fertile crescent). So it's Syrian DNA that made it into Iran. Also remember Iran controlled Syria for a long time via. all of its Persian empires.
Doesn't explain why Lebanese,Palestinians, and Syrian Christians aren't showing it. These guys also have elevated steppe indicating recent admixture from an Indo European speaking populace
Dr_Maul
10-30-2020, 02:47 AM
Doesn't explain why Lebanese,Palestinians, and Syrian Christians aren't showing it. These guys also have elevated steppe indicating recent admixture from an Indo European speaking populace
I'd wager its almost entirely Ottoman
Radimir
10-30-2020, 02:50 AM
How did Iranian DNA make it into Syria?
They are probably Baloch people, an Iranian people whose lore claims they originated in Aleppo, Syria.
But on a serious note, they are probably mixed with Kurds. There are Syrian Kurds and Kurds are Iranic.
Trouble
10-30-2020, 02:56 AM
And what about the affinity towards North African Jews? What explains that? I tried modeling one of them on Vahaduo without it. Didn't work.
Dr_Maul
10-30-2020, 03:04 AM
And what about the affinity towards North African Jews? What explains that? I tried modeling one of them on Vahaduo without it. Didn't work.
Interestingly could be another Ottoman connection. I wonder what happened to the various Iranian Sunnis who escaped to the Ottoman nation. Who knows, maybe they were settled in Syria.
Trouble
10-30-2020, 03:08 AM
Interestingly could be another Ottoman connection. I wonder what happened to the various Iranian Sunnis who escaped to the Ottoman nation. Who knows, maybe they were settled in Syria.
Could this be the same thing that happened in Mesopotamia? These Syrians seem to be equally mixed to their meso counterparts, albeit western shifted.
I wonder how many Iranian Sunnis left Iran.
Dr_Maul
10-30-2020, 03:13 AM
I wonder how many Iranian Sunnis left Iran.
Literally all of them, lol. Probably over 250,000 over the course of a few centuries
Mesopotamia is different, its basically an extension of Iran in a sense. Syria is barely related.
Trouble
10-30-2020, 03:26 AM
Literally all of them, lol. Probably over 250,000 over the course of a few centuries
Mesopotamia is different, its basically an extension of Iran in a sense. Syria is barely related.
Can't be all of them. Iran was overwhelmingly Sunni prior to the Safavids. That means that most of the population converted to Shiism and part of it left. I know many of them settled in the Gulf Arab countries and others to the subcontinent.
Still the Iranic influence in Mesopotamia seems too extensive, it's almost all over the country and from the smallest village till the largest city. I wonder if there was some other Indo-European group that affected Iraq and or Syria that can explain it.
War Chef
10-30-2020, 03:29 AM
Doesn't explain why Lebanese,Palestinians, and Syrian Christians aren't showing it. These guys also have elevated steppe indicating recent admixture from an Indo European speaking populace
Many Mamluks (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baibars)made a home in Syria, and they were largely of Pontic-Caspian (Kipchak) background.
Dr_Maul
10-30-2020, 03:31 AM
Can't be all of them. Iran was overwhelmingly Sunni prior to the Safavids. That means that most of the population converted to Shiism and part of it left. I know many of them settled in the Gulf Arab countries and others to the subcontinent.
Yes, I meant after the conversions. The remaining Sunnis (probably 10% of the pop) gradually fled over time
Still the Iranic influence in Mesopotamia seems too extensive, it's almost all over the country and from the smallest village till the largest city. I wonder if there was some other Indo-European group that affected Iraq and or Syria that can explain it.
Continual migration to the region from 500 BC to present. Whether it be moving to the capital Ctesiphon, the house of Wisdom, repopulating it after genocide or pilgrimage to Karbala.
Trouble
10-30-2020, 03:41 AM
Yes, I meant after the conversions. The remaining Sunnis (probably 10% of the pop) gradually fled over time
Continual migration to the region from 500 BC to present. Whether it be moving to the capital Ctesiphon, the house of Wisdom, repopulating it after genocide or pilgrimage to Karbala.
Assyrians and Mandaeans don't show any influence from Persians though, which is the weird thing. My guess is that after Islam, the Persians and locals started mixing because they were no longer divided by religion?
I'd wager its almost entirely Ottoman
What we're seeing is too complicated to understand just by Gedmatch runs. Syrian, Northern Iraqi, Lebanese and even Palestinian and Jordanian Muslims have several admixture events that are still unclear. My take on it is that the non-noise level Siberian/East Asian indicates Turkish, probably from the Ottoman era. The South Asian to Gedrosia/Baloch levels indicate Iranian/Kurdish input rather than Assyrian/Mesopotamian. But on the other hand they do still have high Atlantic-Med and their North European reaches almost Iranian levels which might be a relic of Byzantines and European slaves. But then again the Christians seem to have so low North Euro, so maybe it's just Western Turkish input?
Tldr; Levantine Muslims seem pretty much like Levantine + Anatolian Turkish + Iranian/Kurdish + possibly some extra European. Seems to differ significantly from individual to individual.
Trouble
10-30-2020, 07:58 PM
Someone update the Syrian sample on gedmatch for gods sake
Someone update the Syrian sample on gedmatch for gods sake
We have updated Syrians for Vahaduo K12b.
Dr_Maul
10-30-2020, 08:29 PM
Assyrians and Mandaeans don't show any influence from Persians though, which is the weird thing. My guess is that after Islam, the Persians and locals started mixing because they were no longer divided by religion?
Islam is the main factor in this case
I am not sure but I would bet Levantine christians also do not have any additional West Asian input
Trouble
10-30-2020, 08:49 PM
We have updated Syrians for Vahaduo K12b.
Target: Syrian_C
Distance: 543.2771% / 5.43277117
58.0 Lebanese_Christian
18.8 Turk_Northwest
15.2 Saudi
8.0 Iranian_Fars
Target: Syrian_B
Distance: 297.7235% / 2.97723489
53.4 Lebanese_Christian
26.4 Iranian_Fars
20.2 Turk_Northwest
Target: Syrian_A
Distance: 252.1757% / 2.52175686
72.4 Lebanese_Christian
17.6 Turk_Northwest
8.4 Kurd_Sorani
1.6 Saudi
Something tells me that they mixed with substantially Greek admixed Turks from the western coast. That would explain the strong shift towards far western(and probably irrelevant) groups like southern Euros and Sephardim. Although Im not sure, they still score some Moroccan Jew as well as NW Turk when both are in the model.
What the fuck
Target: Syrian_C
Distance: 543.2771% / 5.43277117
58.0 Lebanese_Christian
18.8 Turk_Northwest
15.2 Saudi
8.0 Iranian_Fars
Target: Syrian_B
Distance: 297.7235% / 2.97723489
53.4 Lebanese_Christian
26.4 Iranian_Fars
20.2 Turk_Northwest
Target: Syrian_A
Distance: 252.1757% / 2.52175686
72.4 Lebanese_Christian
17.6 Turk_Northwest
8.4 Kurd_Sorani
1.6 Saudi
Something tells me that they mixed with substantially Greek admixed Turks from the western coast. That would explain the strong shift towards far western(and probably irrelevant) groups like southern Euros and Sephardim. Although Im not sure, they still score some Moroccan Jew as well as NW Turk when both are in the model.
What the fuck
You need an African source aswell.
Target: Syrian_C
Distance: 0.8114% / 0.81137794 | ADC: 0.25x
81.8 Palestinian
15.2 Lebanese_Muslim
1.0 Algerian
1.0 Spanish_Asturias
0.8 Sindhi
0.2 Morocco_Jews
Target: Syrian_B
Distance: 1.0214% / 1.02143507 | ADC: 0.25x
55.4 Lebanese_Muslim
20.2 Turkmen_Iraq
15.4 Turk_Southeast
3.6 Yazidi
3.2 Maghrebi
1.6 Morocco_Jews
0.4 Luhya
0.2 Sandawe_He
Target: Syrian_A
Distance: 0.4496% / 0.44960160 | ADC: 0.25x
87.8 Lebanese_Muslim
4.4 Egyptian
4.0 Turk_Cyprus
3.4 Nusayri_Turkey
0.4 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
Trouble
10-30-2020, 09:24 PM
Target: Syrian_C
Distance: 0.8114% / 0.81137794 | ADC: 0.25x
81.8 Palestinian
15.2 Lebanese_Muslim
1.0 Algerian
1.0 Spanish_Asturias
0.8 Sindhi
0.2 Morocco_Jews
Target: Syrian_B
Distance: 1.0214% / 1.02143507 | ADC: 0.25x
55.4 Lebanese_Muslim
20.2 Turkmen_Iraq
15.4 Turk_Southeast
3.6 Yazidi
3.2 Maghrebi
1.6 Morocco_Jews
0.4 Luhya
0.2 Sandawe_He
Target: Syrian_A
Distance: 0.4496% / 0.44960160 | ADC: 0.25x
87.8 Lebanese_Muslim
4.4 Egyptian
4.0 Turk_Cyprus
3.4 Nusayri_Turkey
0.4 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
I would avoid using Palestinians or Lebanese Muslims. Lebanese Druze or Christians only
I would avoid using Palestinians or Lebanese Muslims. Lebanese Druze or Christians only
Target: Syrian_C
Distance: 1.1547% / 1.15467831 | ADC: 0.25x
38.8 Jordanians
29.8 Iraqi_Baghdad
19.6 Morocco_Jews
10.2 Egyptian
1.6 Nusayri_Turkey
Target: Syrian_B
Distance: 1.1198% / 1.11978708 | ADC: 0.25x
33.4 Iraqi_Baghdad
23.8 Turk_Cyprus
22.6 Turkmen_Iraq
15.0 Nusayri_Turkey
3.8 Maghrebi
1.4 Morocco_Jews
Target: Syrian_A
Distance: 0.6038% / 0.60382950 | ADC: 0.25x
59.6 Nusayri_Turkey
12.6 Iraqi_Baghdad
11.2 Turk_Cyprus
8.8 Egyptian
7.6 Jordanians
0.2 Maghrebi
War Chef
10-31-2020, 12:39 AM
What's with the high N. Atlantic?
Trouble
11-01-2020, 04:06 AM
Using the Syrian sample on G25. It was scoring Tunisian Jew until I added an African reference. Perhaps Gedmatch has quirks that give strange results:
Target: Syrian
Distance: 0.6488% / 0.00648842
49.4 Lebanese_Druze
23.6 Kurdish
9.6 Turkish_Istanbul
8.8 BedouinB
3.2 Somali
2.2 Berber_Algeria
2.2 Turkish_Northwest
1.0 Tunisian_Jew
Bonus: Iraqi Muslim results
Target: Iraqi:WIRQARAMUS02<<<<<<this person is probably from the Shia shrine cities as opposed to western Iraq
Distance: 1.9831% / 0.01983117
60.8 Iranian_Fars
20.6 Chaldean
14.8 BedouinB
2.2 Dinka
1.6 Sabian
Target: Iraqi:WIRQARAMUS01
Distance: 1.0675% / 0.01067533
21.6 Assyrian
20.4 Sabian
18.2 Iranian_Zoroastrian
17.0 Chaldean
16.6 BedouinA
6.2 Iranian_Fars
Target: Iraqi:SIRQMUS05
Distance: 1.3630% / 0.01363002
49.6 BedouinB
20.6 Chaldean
17.8 Iranian_Fars
7.0 BedouinA
5.0 Somali
Target: Iraqi:SIRQMUS04
Distance: 1.1599% / 0.01159857
28.4 BedouinA
27.4 Iranian_Zoroastrian
20.4 Iranian_Fars
18.0 BedouinB
3.4 Dinka
2.2 Sabian
0.2 Somali
Target: Iraqi:SIRQMUS02
Distance: 1.4807% / 0.01480659
37.0 Iranian_Fars
22.4 BedouinB
18.0 Sabian
17.2 Assyrian
5.4 Dinka
Target: Iraqi:SIRQMUS01
Distance: 2.6676% / 0.02667567
30.8 Iranian_Fars
21.0 Sabian
16.4 BedouinB
15.4 Dinka
14.8 Chaldean
1.6 Iranian_Zoroastrian
It’s compatible to Syrians, I Know 4 kits from Homs “Sunni Arab”Muslim they are close to your results.They aren’t related and share close results.
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 35.19
2 West_Asian 24.42
3 West_Med 12.93
4 Red_Sea 8.08
5 North_Atlantic 7.17
6 South_Asian 4.13
7 Northeast_African 2.12
8 Sub-Saharan 1.78
9 Baltic 1.75
10 East_Asian 0.99
11 Oceanian 0.72
12 Siberian 0.59
13 Amerindian 0.11
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Lebanese_Muslim 5.72
2 Syrian 7.26
3 Turkish 9.5
4 Cyprian 9.83
5 Assyrian 10.01
6 Iranian_Jewish 10.32
7 Kurdish_Jewish 10.54
8 Jordanian 11.98
9 Georgian_Jewish 12.3
10 Lebanese_Druze 12.66
11 Azeri 13.35
12 Lebanese_Christian 13.4
13 Samaritan 13.47
14 Palestinian 13.52
15 Armenian 13.68
16 Tunisian_Jewish 13.88
17 Sephardic_Jewish 14.31
18 Libyan_Jewish 14.43
19 South_Italian 16.09
20 Algerian_Jewish 16.24
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 54.9% Tunisian_Jewish + 45.1% Kurdish @ 1.87
2 55.1% Tunisian_Jewish + 44.9% Iranian @ 1.88
3 53.9% Libyan_Jewish + 46.1% Kurdish @ 2.17
4 54.1% Libyan_Jewish + 45.9% Iranian @ 2.42
5 86.8% Lebanese_Muslim + 13.2% Tadjik @ 2.61
6 51% Azeri + 49% Tunisian_Jewish @ 2.7
7 52% Azeri + 48% Libyan_Jewish @ 2.78
8 64.8% Lebanese_Muslim + 35.2% Turkish @ 2.95
9 87% Lebanese_Muslim + 13% Afghan_Tadjik @ 2.99
10 88.4% Lebanese_Muslim + 11.6% Afghan_Pashtun @ 3.01
11 82.8% Lebanese_Muslim + 17.2% Turkmen @ 3.05
12 80.7% Iranian_Jewish + 19.3% Spanish_Andalucia @ 3.11
13 80.3% Iranian_Jewish + 19.7% Spanish_Extremadura @ 3.13
14 51.1% Algerian_Jewish + 48.9% Iranian @ 3.16
15 82.2% Iranian_Jewish + 17.8% Spanish_Cantabria @ 3.19
16 80.5% Iranian_Jewish + 19.5% Portuguese @ 3.21
17 81% Iranian_Jewish + 19% Spanish_Galicia @ 3.22
18 81.5% Iranian_Jewish + 18.5% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 3.22
19 81.3% Iranian_Jewish + 18.7% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 3.23
20 50.8% Italian_Jewish + 49.2% Iranian @ 3.23
2
Population Percent
1 East_Med 30.94
2 West_Asian 29.48
3 West_Med 13.8
4 Red_Sea 8.22
5 Baltic 6.08
6 North_Atlantic 4.6
7 Northeast_African 2.32
8 South_Asian 1.74
9 Siberian 1.38
10 East_Asian 1.05
11 Amerindian 0.38
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Turkish 6.1
2 Georgian_Jewish 9.49
3 Assyrian 9.94
4 Azeri 10.24
5 Lebanese_Muslim 10.72
6 Armenian 10.93
7 Syrian 11.81
8 Kurdish_Jewish 12.23
9 Iranian_Jewish 12.6
10 Kurdish 13.52
11 Cyprian 13.61
12 Iranian 14.52
13 Jordanian 16.32
14 Lebanese_Christian 17.54
15 Lebanese_Druze 17.68
16 Samaritan 17.74
17 Palestinian 18.45
18 Central_Greek 18.51
19 South_Italian 18.65
20 East_Sicilian 18.68
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 56.7% Samaritan + 43.3% Kabardin @ 1.84
2 55.8% Samaritan + 44.2% Balkar @ 2.38
3 68.9% Lebanese_Muslim + 31.1% Kabardin @ 2.45
4 51.4% Samaritan + 48.6% Kumyk @ 2.59
5 68.1% Lebanese_Muslim + 31.9% Balkar @ 2.77
6 59.3% Samaritan + 40.7% Chechen @ 2.86
7 58% Samaritan + 42% North_Ossetian @ 2.87
8 55.3% Samaritan + 44.7% Adygei @ 2.87
9 70.2% Lebanese_Muslim + 29.8% North_Ossetian @ 3.09
10 67.9% Lebanese_Muslim + 32.1% Adygei @ 3.17
11 64.4% Lebanese_Muslim + 35.6% Kumyk @ 3.22
12 57.2% Lebanese_Christian + 42.8% Kabardin @ 3.34
13 66.1% Syrian + 33.9% Balkar @ 3.38
14 57.6% Samaritan + 42.4% Ossetian @ 3.42
15 67% Syrian + 33% Kabardin @ 3.51
16 71.5% Lebanese_Muslim + 28.5% Chechen @ 3.57
17 65.7% Syrian + 34.3% Adygei @ 3.6
18 68.2% Syrian + 31.8% North_Ossetian @ 3.67
19 70.1% Lebanese_Muslim + 29.9% Ossetian @ 3.68
20 62.1% Syrian + 37.9% Kumyk @ 3.81
3.
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 35.71
2 West_Asian 23.82
3 West_Med 13.34
4 Red_Sea 9
5 North_Atlantic 5.71
6 Baltic 4.96
7 South_Asian 2.59
8 Northeast_African 2.29
9 Siberian 1.03
10 Amerindian 0.83
11 East_Asian 0.72
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Lebanese_Muslim 5.53
2 Syrian 7.15
3 Cyprian 8.93
4 Turkish 10.04
5 Assyrian 10.08
6 Kurdish_Jewish 10.59
7 Iranian_Jewish 10.62
8 Jordanian 11.42
9 Georgian_Jewish 12.13
10 Lebanese_Druze 12.27
11 Samaritan 12.39
12 Lebanese_Christian 12.48
13 Palestinian 12.88
14 Tunisian_Jewish 13.86
15 Azeri 14.13
16 Libyan_Jewish 14.33
17 Armenian 14.46
18 Sephardic_Jewish 14.49
19 South_Italian 15.95
20 Algerian_Jewish 16.06
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 90% Lebanese_Muslim + 10% Tatar @ 2.48
2 91.6% Lebanese_Muslim + 8.4% Chuvash @ 2.65
3 91.8% Lebanese_Muslim + 8.2% Erzya @ 2.7
4 92% Lebanese_Muslim + 8% Kargopol_Russian @ 2.79
5 86.7% Lebanese_Muslim + 13.3% Nogay @ 2.79
6 68.4% Kurdish_Jewish + 31.6% Greek_Thessaly @ 2.81
7 73.4% Samaritan + 26.6% Tabassaran @ 2.86
8 91.6% Lebanese_Muslim + 8.4% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 2.9
9 92.3% Lebanese_Muslim + 7.7% Mari @ 2.95
10 91.7% Lebanese_Muslim + 8.3% Southwest_Russian @ 2.98
11 91.5% Lebanese_Muslim + 8.5% Ukrainian @ 3.04
12 91.3% Lebanese_Muslim + 8.7% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 3.04
13 92.7% Lebanese_Muslim + 7.3% East_Finnish @ 3.04
14 89.6% Lebanese_Muslim + 10.4% Moldavian @ 3.05
15 92.1% Lebanese_Muslim + 7.9% Russian_Smolensk @ 3.06
16 92.8% Lebanese_Muslim + 7.2% Lithuanian @ 3.07
17 92.8% Lebanese_Muslim + 7.2% Estonian @ 3.09
18 92.8% Lebanese_Muslim + 7.2% Finnish @ 3.1
19 92.3% Lebanese_Muslim + 7.7% Estonian_Polish @ 3.12
20 61.1% Kurdish_Jewish + 38.9% East_Sicilian @ 3.12
4.
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 East_Med 35.45
2 West_Asian 26.24
3 West_Med 10.94
4 Red_Sea 8.78
5 North_Atlantic 5.72
6 South_Asian 4.86
7 Baltic 2.76
8 Northeast_African 2.33
9 Amerindian 1.04
10 Sub-Saharan 0.89
11 Siberian 0.42
12 Oceanian 0.3
13 East_Asian 0.27
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Lebanese_Muslim 6.36
2 Syrian 7.57
3 Assyrian 8.2
4 Iranian_Jewish 8.25
5 Kurdish_Jewish 8.75
6 Turkish 9.1
7 Georgian_Jewish 10.2
8 Cyprian 11.65
9 Azeri 11.65
10 Jordanian 12.08
11 Armenian 12.35
12 Lebanese_Druze 12.73
13 Lebanese_Christian 13.73
14 Palestinian 13.74
15 Samaritan 14.07
16 Iranian 14.6
17 Kurdish 14.65
18 Tunisian_Jewish 16.29
19 Libyan_Jewish 16.69
20 Sephardic_Jewish 16.95
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 85.5% Lebanese_Muslim + 14.5% Afghan_Pashtun @ 1.97
2 52.8% Iranian + 47.2% Tunisian_Jewish @ 2.02
3 53.4% Iranian + 46.6% Libyan_Jewish @ 2.02
4 65.7% Lebanese_Muslim + 34.3% Azeri @ 2.17
5 84.7% Lebanese_Muslim + 15.3% Tadjik @ 2.33
6 84.4% Lebanese_Muslim + 15.6% Tabassaran @ 2.41
7 88.5% Lebanese_Muslim + 11.5% Kalash @ 2.44
8 53.3% Kurdish + 46.7% Libyan_Jewish @ 2.48
9 83.8% Lebanese_Muslim + 16.2% Lezgin @ 2.66
10 52.7% Kurdish + 47.3% Tunisian_Jewish @ 2.68
11 88.1% Lebanese_Muslim + 11.9% Balochi @ 2.7
12 79.7% Lebanese_Muslim + 20.3% Turkmen @ 2.82
13 88.3% Lebanese_Muslim + 11.7% Brahui @ 2.82
14 84.8% Lebanese_Muslim + 15.2% Afghan_Tadjik @ 2.83
15 80.2% Lebanese_Muslim + 19.8% Kumyk @ 2.83
16 84% Lebanese_Muslim + 16% Chechen @ 2.87
17 61.7% Syrian + 38.3% Azeri @ 2.87
18 71.6% Lebanese_Muslim + 28.4% Iranian @ 2.87
19 86.9% Lebanese_Muslim + 13.1% Makrani @ 2.9
20 71.8% Lebanese_Muslim + 28.2% Kurdish @ 2.95
Amazing. Do these people all identify as Syrian Arabs? Are they aware of any recent non-Syrian ancestry?
Trouble
11-01-2020, 06:09 PM
Anyone have kits from Damascus/Qalamoun/Daraa?
If this indo european ancestry is restricted to only central and northern Syria it could be a relic of the Hittites.
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