Chris596 Geneplaza Ancestry Report

[Chris596]

Great news! I bought the K29 ancestry report and got my results today. Many people said that it's really not accurate for them. Apparently for me, it's actually the best ancestry report I've got so far. Finally, something accurate, I can't see how this is not true.

They detected basically everything, the East and Southeast European, the West Asian, the Central-East Asian.
They even detected some Northern European again (like Myheritage), so I guess I do have some minor Germanic ancestry deep in my blood.

91.2% white/european. I kind of expected this. Do you think it's accurate based on my autosomal results and general ancestry? (For those who don't know, I'm ethnically Hungarian with ancestry from Romania and Hungary, with possible South Slavic/Vlach ancestry too which is still not confirmed for sure)

https://i.imgur.com/ZjiM2gr.png

https://i.imgur.com/TYf7KR8.png

https://i.imgur.com/tSzLp1J.png

91.2% European

-Southern Slavic 50.5%
-Sicilian 14.7%
-Eastern Slavic 11.2%
-Greek-Albanian 9.2%
-Northwest European 5.6%

8.8% Asian

-Central Asian 4.8%
-Caucasian 4.0%


Was it accurate for those who bought it? Let's hear your opinion!

[Kerili]

Nice results. But they are not so accurate they do mix ur dna in their calculator so u can be also half swedish and half greek. They look on ur cluster the same as g25.

[Scandal]

I'm ethnically Hungarian with ancestry from Romania and Hungary, with possible South Slavic/Vlach ancestry too which is still not confirmed for sure)[/B]


Your hungarian ancestry already have Slavic and Vlach ancestry embedded in it, it's just distant and because of that you don't know about it, but dna tests have already confirmed it.

[Chris596]

Btw the West Asian is not shown on the circle, don't ask me why lol.

[Chris596]

Your hungarian ancestry already have Slavic and Vlach ancestry embedded in it, it's just distant and because of that you don't know about, but dna tests are confirming it.

Yes. That's of course, most of my European ancestry. So you can see that Hungarians like me really exist (or like you).

[CommonSense]

How much did you spend on it? I don't understand why are you convinced you have ancestry from the Caucasus. Besides, the fact that the calculator gave you 15% Sicilian is enough to say it's not really accurate.

[Chris596]

How much did you spend on it? I don't understand why are you convinced you have ancestry from the Caucasus. Besides, the fact that the calculator gave you 15% Sicilian is enough to say it's not really accurate.

It cost me 5 euros (of course, I bought it from my money). I'm convinced because I generally get a larger amount of West Asian in different GEDmatch calculators. Compared to other Hungarians, who usually don't get any or a much less amount. There's a G25 calculator where my father literally gets 30% Caucasian in total.

Perhaps the Sicilian also hides some West Asian in my case + it's confirmed that I also have distant Jewish ancestry and in this respect Sicilians and full European Jews are really similar genetically. As you can see this calculator doesn't have a separate category for Jewish (I got Jewish from Myheritage, DNA.land, FTDNA).

You can also check out just some of my nMonte results from Admixture Studio, there I also get 3-5% Caucasian or more: https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?319393-Post-your-nMonte-results-from-DNA-Genics-ADMIXTURE-STUDIO&p=6822093#post6822093


Plus I get West Asian on K36, DNA.Land, Living DNA, so many websites. So I think it's not a coincidence and therefore I'm totally convinced at this point.

[17571imre]

EASTERN EUROPEAN39.6%
Eastern Slavic39.6%
Southern Slavic0.0%
Baltic0.0%
NORTHERN EUROPEAN29.8%
Northwest European29.8%
Scandinavian0.0%
SOUTHERN EUROPEAN24.7%
Sicilian24.7%
Greek-Albanian0.0%
Southwest European0.0%
ASIAN5.9%
Tatars 5.9%

my report

if the sicilian is standing for my Paleo Balkan ancestry then its a pretty good report for me.

[CommonSense]

It cost me 5 euros (of course, I bought it from my money). I'm convinced because I generally get a larger amount of West Asian in different GEDmatch calculators. Compared to other Hungarians, who usually don't get any or a much less amount. There's a G25 calculator where my father literally gets 30% Caucasian in total.

Perhaps the Sicilian also hides some West Asian in my case + it's confirmed that I also have distant Jewish ancestry and in this respect Sicilians and full European Jews are really similar genetically. As you can see this calculator doesn't have a separate category for Jewish (I got Jewish from Myheritage, DNA.land, FTDNA).

You can also check out just some of my nMonte results from Admixture Studio, there I also get 3-5% Caucasian or more: https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?319393-Post-your-nMonte-results-from-DNA-Genics-ADMIXTURE-STUDIO&p=6822093#post6822093


Plus I get West Asian on K36, DNA.Land, Living DNA, so many websites. So I think it's not a coincidence and therefore I'm totally convinced at this point.

But if you actually had ancestry from there, you'd have at least a few matches that would reflect that in your relatives list. Perhaps your West Asian scores on gedmatch aren't average for Hungarians, but they aren't out of the ordinary for Balkanites. And from a general point of view you are genetically closer to Balkanites than to the average Hungarian, so it really is no surprise.

[Luke35]

Btw the West Asian is not shown on the circle, don't ask me why lol.

It seems to be a subcategory under the broader Asian one.

[Luke35]

I would say the report is quite interesting.

I remember I did this one a LONG time ago, for me I thought the result was so poor I didn't even save it and closed my account. I was new to this stuff then, and in hindsight it may not have been as poor as I thought it was at the time.

So, as far as West Asian (I assume you mean some kind of recent ancestry, like last 200-300 years), I'd suggest taking the G25 Montenegrin and/or Serbian average, run it thru various calculators, and compare to how you score. Because your automsomal DNA is significantly Balkanic, those pops will be a good bench mark to see if you have West Asian above and beyond.

[Chris596]

But if you actually had ancestry from there, you'd have at least a few matches that would reflect that in your relatives list. Perhaps your West Asian scores on gedmatch aren't average for Hungarians, but they aren't out of the ordinary for Balkanites. And from a general point of view you are genetically closer to Balkanites than to the average Hungarian, so it really is no surprise.

I see what you mean, of course most of my ancestry is undeniably from the Balkans this is pretty clear at this point. Now I just concentrate on the other, smaller things which are not that clear yet.

This is what David Wesolowski, the god of G25 told me, so I believe him:


You do have a bit of West Asian ancestry, and it's probably connected to your minor East Asian ancestry.

I'd say that what you're seeing there is actually some sort of Central Asian or far Eastern European ancestry. Something Tatar-like.

And it's exactly what I got here: Tatar + Caucasian (interesting nevertheless)

[Luke35]

Here is the Sorcelow's 'Best G25 Calculator V2', it has a West Asian component. Just one of many you could check:


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Siberian:Nganassan12,0.045529,-0.406212,0.157259,0.000646,-0.163723,-0.093149,0.034077,0.044998,0.032519,0.012392,0.105 228,0.012139,-0.010109,-0.023533,-0.017101,-0.005967,0.000652,0.013556,0.027276,-0.003377,0.044297,-0.004699,0.033277,-0.003735,0.010179
Siberian:Nganassan14,0.045529,-0.416367,0.164047,0.002584,-0.165262,-0.090639,0.027966,0.043614,0.029247,0.011116,0.097 758,0.008692,-0.006244,-0.022432,-0.018865,-0.005967,0.010691,0.011022,0.030922,-0.003502,0.050785,-0.012736,0.032661,-0.005543,0.01425
Siberian:Nganassan15,0.05122,-0.396056,0.156505,0.005491,-0.15726,-0.085062,0.031491,0.039921,0.031292,0.011663,0.101 33,0.006594,-0.004608,-0.028488,-0.02633,-0.014585,-0.007041,0.016216,0.031047,0.002501,0.03681,-0.009892,0.032784,0.006145,0.016046
Siberian:Nganassan2,0.054635,-0.396056,0.154619,0.001292,-0.150797,-0.084783,0.027261,0.042691,0.024543,0.012028,0.099 544,0.012139,-0.005946,-0.029864,-0.015201,-0.010209,0.003129,0.009502,0.021746,0.001,0.037684 ,-0.01422,0.032414,0.005302,0.009939
Siberian:Nganassan3,0.046667,-0.404181,0.159522,0.000646,-0.160953,-0.084225,0.029376,0.041767,0.035792,0.011299,0.104 578,0.007343,-0.002379,-0.028626,-0.02633,-0.013789,-0.005867,0.014316,0.023254,-0.003627,0.040803,-0.015086,0.035865,-0.002289,0.011496
Siberian:Nganassan7,0.050082,-0.419414,0.15198,-0.000323,-0.165262,-0.090639,0.028906,0.046152,0.034155,0.017312,0.108 151,0.008992,-0.004014,-0.025735,-0.020358,-0.007027,0.007041,0.018497,0.027779,0.000125,0.050 161,-0.018053,0.03796,0.004338,0.015208
Siberian:Nganassan8,0.044391,-0.40215,0.150094,0.00646,-0.157876,-0.083388,0.025146,0.038998,0.027611,0.009294,0.100 031,0.008393,-0.001041,-0.034268,-0.024565,-0.013126,0.004433,0.012415,0.021746,-0.003126,0.047042,-0.002473,0.03303,0.003374,0.016166
Siberian:nganassanVo32_1m,0.043253,-0.419414,0.158768,0.001292,-0.153567,-0.098448,0.026321,0.047075,0.033133,0.018224,0.107 826,0.012139,-0.001784,-0.025735,-0.025787,-0.016043,-0.007432,0.012796,0.033184,0.006253,0.044546,-0.012984,0.03414,-0.003012,0.013412
West_Asian:KK1,0.091058,0.102568,-0.083344,-0.00323,-0.08617,0.020638,0.024911,-0.001846,-0.128236,-0.074717,-0.006333,0.023979,-0.054856,0.004404,0.026601,-0.03275,0.02386,-0.013429,-0.022249,0.034767,0.033815,-0.007048,0.006532,-0.025787,-0.002036
West_Asian:I1290,0.036423,0.069056,-0.151603,-0.011951,-0.121253,0.011992,0.017391,-0.005307,-0.084059,-0.051026,0.003085,-0.005695,0.009217,-0.014588,0.026058,0.068814,-0.005737,0.008488,0.014581,-0.032391,0.01435,-0.02201,-0.016885,-0.041572,0.02862
West_Asian:I1947,0.042115,0.062963,-0.158768,0.014858,-0.118176,0.020638,0.012691,-0.005077,-0.078537,-0.061414,-0.00065,-0.003297,0.001041,-0.012937,0.034473,0.063908,-0.004955,0.014823,0.006913,-0.035017,0.010357,-0.029182,-0.012325,-0.035788,0.022752
West_Asian:I1954,0.053497,0.072103,-0.150848,0.004199,-0.126177,0.024542,0.022091,0.000462,-0.086514,-0.05376,-0.00341,-0.005395,0.008176,-0.000963,0.02823,0.043755,-0.01356,0.006334,0.011816,-0.04127,0.003494,-0.030048,-0.005669,-0.036391,0.025866
Ancient_Pacific,0.0087267,-0.4211063,-0.0467627,-0.0628773,0.145668,0.0595897,-0.0067367,-0.017307,-0.0191573,-0.0241163,0.0579187,0.0049457,-0.007532,0.006514,0.0184127,0.0109607,-0.00565,0.0032517,0.010601,-0.0117553,0.0045337,-0.0247717,-0.0013967,-0.0151023,-0.062629
Balkanic,0.1175998,0.180118,0.0035312,-0.101158,0.0510443,-0.0483875,-0.0043582,-0.0069334,0.0362287,0.0807473,0.0079718,0.0118803,-0.0234545,0.0004691,-0.0419807,-0.0101913,0.0233091,0.0019866,0.0136954,-0.0097489,-0.0142249,0.0057723,-0.0041232,-0.0031658,-0.0043437
Ancient_South_African,-0.641583,0.0558543,0.0258957,0.034884,0.001231,-0.0030677,0.2680687,-0.2072223,0.0104307,0.0153683,0.008715,-0.0659913,-0.0216053,0.0064223,0.023751,-0.0201537,0.034204,0.294593,-0.09574,0.0060447,-0.033857,-0.0039157,0.003163,-0.0029323,-0.000399
Steppe:I0231,0.122929,0.081242,0.045254,0.11725,-0.035391,0.048806,0.00188,-0.000462,-0.053381,-0.071437,0.003897,0.001649,0.001189,-0.024084,0.031216,0.019888,0.004042,-0.003674,-0.000754,0.013506,-0.003244,-0.008037,0.003204,0.015665,0.001796
Steppe:I0357,0.126344,0.092413,0.038089,0.107883,-0.029852,0.039324,0.00564,-0.008077,-0.043768,-0.065605,-0.001137,-0.00015,-0.003568,-0.024772,0.035287,0.01896,0.00013,0.003167,-0.005279,0.004877,0.003619,0.006925,0.008504,0.012 532,-0.005269
Steppe:I0370,0.124067,0.08632,0.049403,0.111759,-0.027697,0.044623,0.00517,-0.000462,-0.066061,-0.066516,-0.002436,-0.00015,0.000297,-0.025735,0.03868,0.013789,0.000782,-0.000127,-0.005154,0.015758,0.001622,-0.0115,0.007025,0.021328,-0.003952
Steppe:I0429,0.130897,0.088351,0.044123,0.126617,-0.030467,0.050758,0.005875,0.003,-0.059516,-0.075992,0.000974,-0.008992,0.002081,-0.018717,0.039359,0.020949,0.004955,-0.000887,0.003897,0.022636,-0.005615,0.000495,0.020089,0.018798,-0.013651
Steppe:I0438,0.126344,0.085304,0.042615,0.122741,-0.032929,0.048806,-0.002115,0.002077,-0.068925,-0.080548,0.00065,0.002548,-0.00892,-0.029176,0.032437,0.011668,0.002347,-0.005068,-0.006285,0.018009,-0.00025,0.001731,0.021199,0.021328,-0.007185
Steppe:I0439,0.127482,0.096475,0.037335,0.117896,-0.017542,0.038487,0.00329,-0.006,-0.052154,-0.057587,0.001949,-0.000599,-0.007582,-0.02257,0.038273,0.016441,-0.002217,-0.004941,-0.00352,0.018634,-0.001996,0.00643,0.015529,0.02663,-0.00934
Steppe:I0443,0.124067,0.093429,0.039975,0.108206,-0.027082,0.045459,0.003995,-0.007154,-0.052563,-0.081642,0.001299,-3e-04,0.000595,-0.016515,0.044923,0.003978,-0.014212,-0.001394,-0.003771,0.013006,0.00262,0.000247,0.003944,0.0189 18,0.002036
Steppe:I0444,0.125205,0.08632,0.045632,0.119188,-0.024928,0.047969,0.00564,-0.001154,-0.050108,-0.073259,0.002598,0.002847,0,-0.042663,0.029451,0.022938,-0.000522,0.003294,-0.010307,0.013131,-0.015098,0.004204,0.010846,0.016267,0.003952
Northwest_African,-0.06687428,0.12091432,-0.01315948,-0.0918202,0.03699932,-0.05248712,-0.04410136,0.0082754,0.10772968,0.03439832,0.01573 808,-0.01434684,0.03544828,-0.0306124,0.025927,-0.02585844,0.0124842,-0.03886896,-0.07997156,0.01949672,-0.02830012,-0.0730104,0.0421578,-0.00952268,0.00813456

Serbian G25 Modern average:

Target: Serbian
Distance: 1.5551% / 0.01555122 | ADC: 0.25x
41.6 Balkanic
40.4 Steppe
18.0 Baltic

Target: Serbian
Distance: 1.3558% / 0.01355843
40.8 Balkanic
36.6 Steppe
19.8 Baltic
2.2 West_Asian
0.6 East_Asian

[Chris596]

Here is the Sorcelow's 'Best G25 Calculator V2', it has a West Asian component. Just one of many you could check:

Serbian G25 Modern average:

Target: Serbian
Distance: 1.5551% / 0.01555122 | ADC: 0.25x
41.6 Balkanic
40.4 Steppe
18.0 Baltic

Target: Serbian
Distance: 1.3558% / 0.01355843
40.8 Balkanic
36.6 Steppe
19.8 Baltic
2.2 West_Asian
0.6 East_Asian

I think it's pretty clear, or is this not an evidence?

Target: Chris_scaled
Distance: 1.4198% / 0.01419751
29.2 Steppe
29.2 Balkanic
22.2 Baltic
8.6 Atlantic
8.4 West_Asian
2.4 East_Asian

Target: Chris_scaled
Distance: 1.9170% / 0.01917034 | ADC: 0.25x
36.6 Steppe
30.6 Balkanic
21.0 Baltic
6.2 Atlantic
4.4 West_Asian
1.0 East_Asian
0.2 Ancient_Pacific


Supreeeme Myheritage G25 model:

Target: Serbian
Distance: 0.7750% / 0.00775035
77.8 Balkan
12.4 Baltic
6.8 Greek_and_South_Italian
1.6 Sardinian
1.4 Italian

Target: Chris_scaled
Distance: 1.6040% / 0.01603998
40.2 Baltic
20.8 Sardinian
18.4 West_Asian
13.0 East_European
5.4 Balkan
1.6 Chinese_and_Vietnamese
0.6 Mongolian

[Sora]

Almost yes, it is. Since Hungarians are genetically mix of East & South European ancestries, your results look typical for Hungarian. It's interesting you're more Central Asian than West Asian

[Luke35]

I think it's pretty clear, or is this not an evidence?

Target: Chris_scaled
Distance: 1.4198% / 0.01419751
29.2 Steppe
29.2 Balkanic
22.2 Baltic
8.6 Atlantic
8.4 West_Asian
2.4 East_Asian

Target: Chris_scaled
Distance: 1.9170% / 0.01917034 | ADC: 0.25x
36.6 Steppe
30.6 Balkanic
21.0 Baltic
6.2 Atlantic
4.4 West_Asian
1.0 East_Asian
0.2 Ancient_Pacific


Supreeeme Myheritage G25 model:

Target: Serbian
Distance: 0.7750% / 0.00775035
77.8 Balkan
12.4 Baltic
6.8 Greek_and_South_Italian
1.6 Sardinian
1.4 Italian

Target: Chris_scaled
Distance: 1.6040% / 0.01603998
40.2 Baltic
20.8 Sardinian
18.4 West_Asian
13.0 East_European
5.4 Balkan
1.6 Chinese_and_Vietnamese
0.6 Mongolian

Yup, that's some solid evidence.

So on the first calc the Serbian average is 2%, which means the normal range might be something like 0-4%, you easily clear that.

On the second you really crush it, however overall you get broken down very differently than Serbian so that can be a matter of balancing your components, these are just models after all. Still, you get so much on this one, it's seem very significant.

It would be cool if you can find someone with the knowledge to isolate West Asian ancestry in a calc model designed to capture that.

And I back up what CS said about looking for West Asian matches, that is another major clue.

[Luke35]

If you do indeed have elevated West Asian ancestry, as current evidence points to, the next question is from when? is it a recent ancestor or something from the distant past, events like the honfoglalas and onwards?

[Coastal Elite]

I got around 9% Central Asian on this calculator (mostly Tajikistani Tajiks) which is cool but seems inconsistent with other calculator results.

[Chris596]

Yup, that's some solid evidence.

So on the first calc the Serbian average is 2%, which means the normal range might be something like 0-4%, you easily clear that.

On the second you really crush it, however overall you get broken down very differently than Serbian so that can be a matter of balancing your components, these are just models after all. Still, you get so much on this one, it's seem very significant.

It would be cool if you can find someone with the knowledge to isolate West Asian ancestry in a calc model designed to capture that.

And I back up what CS said about looking for West Asian matches, that is another major clue.


If you do indeed have elevated West Asian ancestry, as current evidence points to, the next question is from when? is it a recent ancestor or something from the distant past, events like the honfoglalas and onwards?

It's a good question my friend, I'll see what I can do. Do you think it's high enough to be considered ,,more recent'' ?

I just checked many Modern Balkan samples with this Sorcelow model. I get more West Asian than all of the Balkan samples, even more than the Albanian or Bulgarian, only some Southern Greek samples get more West Asian than me. So at this point Romanians and Hungarians are out of question since those populations get even lower West Asian.

I really don't know what's going on here, I believe it can be explained with the Conquering or a Turkic ancestor who carried West Asian and it was preserved in my father? Maybe.

[Chris596]

I got around 9% Central Asian on this calculator (mostly Tajikistani Tajiks) which is cool but seems inconsistent with other calculator results.

Well, maybe some of it is noise in your case. In my case I'm not sure, it almost correlates with my Turkic or Tatar percentage I get on other calculators, so I guess it's right. So far this is the most detailed ancestry report that I've got and I can't see anything suspicious why I shouldn't believe in this.

[Luke35]

It's a good question my friend, I'll see what I can do. Do you think it's high enough to be considered ,,more recent'' ?

I just checked many Modern Balkan samples with this Sorcelow model. I get more West Asian than all of the Balkan samples, even more than the Albanian or Bulgarian, only some Southern Greek samples get more West Asian than me. So at this point Romanians and Hungarians are out of question since those populations get even lower West Asian.

I really don't know what's going on here, I believe it can be explained with the Conquering or a Turkic ancestor who carried West Asian and it was preserved in my father? Maybe.

Well, let's examine what Davidski said,

"You do have a bit of West Asian ancestry, and it's probably connected to your minor East Asian ancestry.
I'd say that what you're seeing there is actually some sort of Central Asian or far Eastern European ancestry. Something Tatar-like."

Okay, so you already have higher West Asian due to your Balkanic autosomal. Add to that this Central Asian/far EE ancestry. So you have the standard Balkanic West Asian ancestry + your bit of xtra (Tatar-like) getting lumped together on some of these calcs, making a larger total % perhaps? And you also have some minor East Asian on top of that.

So I don't see why your West Asian needs to be recent. The West Asian already embedded in the Balkans is old. Greeks, who have as much as you or more, it's old. You have additional Central Asian, could be old too. You have minor East Asian, Dunai does too, and Turul Karom - all likely old. Recombined and passed down for many generations probably.

Anyway, I'm just thinking aloud, talking out my ass really - I am FAR from an expert or geneticist. Just trying to explore this a little, really I just don't know the answer.

I have heard from you and others about Armenians in Hungary, I would assume that might represent a more recent avenue for you to have acquired this DNA.

[JamesBond007]

I just took the test and it seems mostly accurate except it says I'm 5% Tatar. Other than that it says I'm 95% NorthWest European i.e. Orcadian, Scottish, French, English.

[Ülev]

0% Baltic? - how so?
Baltic has at least 40%

https://spirits.com.pl/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/Baltic-wodka.jpg

[Ion Basescul]

91.2% European

-Southern Slavic 50.5%
-Sicilian 14.7%
-Eastern Slavic 11.2%
-Greek-Albanian 9.2%
-Northwest European 5.6%

8.8% Asian

-Central Asian 4.8%
-Caucasian 4.0%


Was it accurate for those who bought it? Let's hear your opinion!

Not really tbh, Kurd's calculators (their creator, also the guy behind Gedrosia calculators on GEDmatch) are famous for their noise. I remember taking it when it first came out. In my case, apart from assigning Scandinavian and then having to balance that with Greek-Albanian and West Asian, it turns out not that bad. However, it's still worse than Eurogenes, Dodecad and Global 25 runs. Heck, even puntDNAL gets it better.

https://anthrogenica.com/showthread.php?12934-K25-Updated-to-K29-Admixture-Calculator

https://i.imgur.com/o5xRU1l.png

https://i.imgur.com/e35YDEG.png

https://i.imgur.com/zhR2vGm.png

https://i.imgur.com/JT0Qpiw.png

[Seya]

does anyone still have the results from when this geneplaza was still free? did they update their database?
i remember they gave me a few % of central chinese back then lol
wasn't this one giving similar results with dna.land?

[Ion Basescul]

I think it's pretty clear, or is this not an evidence?


Target: Chris_scaled
Distance: 1.9170% / 0.01917034 | ADC: 0.25x
36.6 Steppe
30.6 Balkanic
21.0 Baltic
6.2 Atlantic
4.4 West_Asian
1.0 East_Asian
0.2 Ancient_Pacific


Supreeeme Myheritage G25 model:


Target: Chris_scaled
Distance: 1.6040% / 0.01603998
40.2 Baltic
20.8 Sardinian
18.4 West_Asian
13.0 East_European
5.4 Balkan
1.6 Chinese_and_Vietnamese
0.6 Mongolian

Your Siberian/East Asian is interesting, because it comes with West Asian, which might indicate some kind of Tatar/Steppic ancestry. Though we obviously can't know if the two of them are connected and derive from the same source.
For me, the Siberian/East Asian is always decoupled, making things more confusing since it's harder to guess the source.
I suppose you've already looked on MyHeritage for Tatar, Turkish, Central Asian, Caucasian matches, but with no luck? If that's the case, then it's likelier derived from an old source, which somehow survived due to the particular mix in one of your ancestor's villages.



Target: Ion_Basescul_23andme+LivingDNA
Distance: 2.1708% / 0.02170843 | ADC: 0.25x
44.0 Steppe
34.8 Balkanic
18.8 Baltic
2.4 East_Asian

Target: Ion_Basescul_23andme+LivingDNA
Distance: 2.2753% / 0.02275252
64.8 Balkan
28.4 East_European
2.4 North_and_West_European
2.0 Mongolian
1.8 Chinese_and_Vietnamese
0.6 West_Asian

[Jana]

I'm convinced because I generally get a larger amount of West Asian in different GEDmatch calculators. Compared to other Hungarians, who usually don't get any or a much less amount. There's a G25 calculator where my father literally gets 30% Caucasian in total.

Not really true. Stears gets high west Asian on gedmatch, probably more than you (not sure how much you get on K13). It's probably from your Szekely/Balkan ancestry.
I also get high west asian everywhere but have no matches which means it isn't recent.

Ex user Hrvoje does too, and he is genetically highly central European. I don't think it means anything specific to be honest.

[Ion Basescul]

Not really true. Stears gets high west Asian on gedmatch, probably more than you (not sure how much you get on K13). It's probably from your Szekely/Balkan ancestry.
I also get high west asian everywhere but have no matches which means it isn't recent.

Ex user Hrvoje does too, and he is genetically highly central European. I don't think it means anything specific to be honest.

10.5% compared to Stears' 11%; the highest Transylvanian Hungarian value is at 12.7% in my spreadsheet.

https://i.imgur.com/jiy6vON.png

[Jana]

10.5% compared to Stears' 11%; the highest Transylvanian Hungarian value is at 12.7% in my spreadsheet.

https://i.imgur.com/jiy6vON.png

I get 11.1%, Hrvoje 11.3% West Asian on K13.

[Voskos]

Powerful results especially in the Turan domain.

[oszkar07]

Nice results Chris.
Looks reasonably good for you but for me my results were somewhat off.
Im genetically in reality half NW European from my British side but Geneplaza gave me 26.1% NW Euro.
Then they gave me 36.1 % SouthWest European which is completly wrong ... I would literally have to be at least 1/4 or 1/2 Spanish to get that .
They gave me 34% East European ...which is the same East Euro amount I get on My Heritage and DNAland ...so for me that can be the only thing they got right.
They also said Im 96% European which is lowest European score any commercial company has given me although the 2nd lowest European score I got was from FTDNA myorigins 97% European ...so not too different.
Also Geneplaza gave me Central Asian = Tatars 3.6% ... which is nice but for sure they massively overestimated my South West Euro and underestimated my NW Euro.

[RyoHazuki]

It's not worth taking seriously. I got very inaccurate results.
EUROPEAN 81.4%
NORTHERN EUROPEAN 69.4%
Scandinavian 37.4%
Northwest European 32.0%
EASTERN EUROPEAN 12.1%
Southern Slavic 6.0%
Baltic 6.0%

ASIAN 18.6%
WEST ASIAN 9.8%
West Asian 9.8%
CENTRAL ASIAN 8.7%
Tatars 8.7%

[RyoHazuki]

I just took the test and it seems mostly accurate except it says I'm 5% Tatar. Other than that it says I'm 95% NorthWest European i.e. Orcadian, Scottish, French, English.

The developer said everyone would get a bit of Tatar percentage. For you it is accurate because your heritage is farthest from any transitional regions in Europe, so you come up as almost all Northern Europe.

[Chris596]

Your Siberian/East Asian is interesting, because it comes with West Asian, which might indicate some kind of Tatar/Steppic ancestry. Though we obviously can't know if the two of them are connected and derive from the same source.
For me, the Siberian/East Asian is always decoupled, making things more confusing since it's harder to guess the source.
I suppose you've already looked on MyHeritage for Tatar, Turkish, Central Asian, Caucasian matches, but with no luck? If that's the case, then it's likelier derived from an old source, which somehow survived due to the particular mix in one of your ancestor's villages.



Target: Ion_Basescul_23andme+LivingDNA
Distance: 2.1708% / 0.02170843 | ADC: 0.25x
44.0 Steppe
34.8 Balkanic
18.8 Baltic
2.4 East_Asian

Target: Ion_Basescul_23andme+LivingDNA
Distance: 2.2753% / 0.02275252
64.8 Balkan
28.4 East_European
2.4 North_and_West_European
2.0 Mongolian
1.8 Chinese_and_Vietnamese
0.6 West_Asian

This is a reasonable theory! I think you're right, either one of these components came from the same source, or they don't have a connection between them. On Myheritage a I have a couple Turkish matches and one Armenian. I have almost 1000 matches from the USA and Germany combined, many of them are Romanians, East and South Slavs, I didn't really look at them, because we are talking about hundreds of people at least.

One of my closest matches is ,,Russian'' and when I asked him about his origins I was told he has ancestry from Russia and Central Asia too. So I don't know. I also have weird matches where Myheritage says that our common ancestry is Mongolian (that person is from Russia too), but of course Myheritage ,,shows'' 0% Mongolian :rolleyes: I posted about this in another thread, like 2 months ago.

[Chris596]

Nice results Chris.
Looks reasonably good for you but for me my results were somewhat off.
Im genetically in reality half NW European from my British side but Geneplaza gave me 26.1% NW Euro.
Then they gave me 36.1 % SouthWest European which is completly wrong ... I would literally have to be at least 1/4 or 1/2 Spanish to get that .
They gave me 34% East European ...which is the same East Euro amount I get on My Heritage and DNAland ...so for me that can be the only thing they got right.
They also said Im 96% European which is lowest European score any commercial company has given me although the 2nd lowest European score I got was from FTDNA myorigins 97% European ...so not too different.
Also Geneplaza gave me Central Asian = Tatars 3.6% ... which is nice but for sure they massively overestimated my South West Euro and underestimated my NW Euro.


It's not worth taking seriously. I got very inaccurate results.
EUROPEAN 81.4%
NORTHERN EUROPEAN 69.4%
Scandinavian 37.4%
Northwest European 32.0%
EASTERN EUROPEAN 12.1%
Southern Slavic 6.0%
Baltic 6.0%

ASIAN 18.6%
WEST ASIAN 9.8%
West Asian 9.8%
CENTRAL ASIAN 8.7%
Tatars 8.7%

I see what you mean (Oszkar and RyoHazuki), but based on what I know so far and my other DNA test results, this actually looks really accurate for me. Maybe for some people it works better, like Myheritage (which was more of a bullsh*t result in my case compared to this one).

[Chris596]

Not really true. Stears gets high west Asian on gedmatch, probably more than you (not sure how much you get on K13). It's probably from your Szekely/Balkan ancestry.
I also get high west asian everywhere but have no matches which means it isn't recent.

Ex user Hrvoje does too, and he is genetically highly central European. I don't think it means anything specific to be honest.

Yes, but it's really a mistery to me then, why do I get more West Asian results on G25, Admixture Studio, basically everywhere ? If someone supposedly has more than me :confused: I still can't understand this.

See it for yourself:

G25 Modern Averages Scaled

Target: Csaba_scaled
Distance: 0.8573% / 0.00857251
19.6 Montenegrin
19.4 Estonian
18.2 Macedonian
12.8 Shetlandic
6.0 Latvian
5.2 Norwegian
5.0 Georgian_Laz
3.6 Abkhasian
3.6 Czech
2.4 Slovenian
1.4 Tibetan_Chamdo
0.8 Palestinian_Beit_Sahour
0.6 Finnish_East
0.4 Huichol
0.4 Italian_Liguria
0.4 Ju_hoan_North
0.2 Yakut

Target: Chris_scaled
Distance: 1.2815% / 0.01281471
35.0 Lithuanian_PA
19.6 Sardinian
12.4 Greek_Peloponnese (I don't highlight this but this sample is like 10% West Asian itself)
11.6 Lithuanian_VA
11.4 Abkhasian
4.4 Cossack_Ukrainian
1.8 Georgian_Laz
1.6 Macedonian
1.4 Li
0.6 Ket
0.2 Ju_hoan_North

--------------------------------

Marques K64

Target: Csaba_scaled
Distance: 0.5590% / 0.00558969
23.4 Baltic
23.2 Central_European
22.6 East_European
5.8 West_Russia
4.0 Balkan
4.0 Central_Asia_and_steppe
3.8 USA_European_Settler
3.2 Anatolia
3.2 British
2.4 South_Caucasus
1.8 Finland
1.2 Indo_Tibétan
0.8 Indochina
0.2 Canadian_indigenous
0.2 Levantine
0.2 South_west_Africa

Target: Chris_scaled
Distance: 0.7387% / 0.00738682
26.2 Germanic_Europe
20.4 Baltic
16.8 East_European
14.0 Balkan
9.6 Central_European
6.6 South_Caucasus
1.6 Anatolia
1.4 South_Chinese
1.2 North_Caucasus
0.8 Indochina
0.8 Sibérian
0.6 Indonesian_Austronesian

Bonus: My father

Target: ChrisFather
Distance: 2.3230% / 0.02323044
36.0 Germanic_Europe
32.8 Balkan
15.2 South_Caucasus
6.2 Baltic
3.2 South_Chinese
2.4 Central_Asia_and_steppe
1.8 Sibérian
1.2 Indochina
1.0 Anatolia
0.2 Indonesian_Austronesian

I just hope you can see what I mean, I'm not here to troll people I just try to figure out this mistery. It's really worthless to post all the calcs because I get more West Asian than Stears I don't know about Hrvoje but possibly more than him too.

I don't know what is the West Asian reference on GEDmatch, but maybe it's not necessarily modern West Asian or it has other components too or idk.

[Ion Basescul]

I think it's pretty clear, or is this not an evidence?

Target: Chris_scaled
Distance: 1.9170% / 0.01917034 | ADC: 0.25x
36.6 Steppe
30.6 Balkanic
21.0 Baltic
6.2 Atlantic
4.4 West_Asian
1.0 East_Asian
0.2 Ancient_Pacific


Supreeeme Myheritage G25 model:

Target: Chris_scaled
Distance: 1.6040% / 0.01603998
40.2 Baltic
20.8 Sardinian
18.4 West_Asian
13.0 East_European
5.4 Balkan
1.6 Chinese_and_Vietnamese
0.6 Mongolian


Yes, but it's really a mistery to me then, why do I get more West Asian results on G25, Admixture Studio, basically everywhere ? If someone supposedly has more than me :confused: I still can't understand this.


It's really weird, because apart from me, you score less West Asian than my family on K13, yet get much more West Asian with those models.

West Asian % on K13:
Me - 9.99%
Brother - 12.99%
Mom - 11.01%
Dad - 12.25%

But we are talking now about Global 25 and not GEDmatch/Admixture Studio calculators. In my family's case, it seems that there isn't much of a difference between the two. They get more West Asian on K13, which is why they pick bits of it in Global 25 too. But still, they don't amount to your values, which doesn't make sense going simply by the numbers. Theoretically, the should score more West Asian than you. I think what's happening is that the West Asian simply escapes from the Balkan component, because as you can see above in Supreeeme's model, you received only 5.4% Balkan.

Sorcelow's Global 25

Target: Ion_Basescul_23andme+LivingDNA
Distance: 2.1815% / 0.02181470 | ADC: 0.25x
44.2 Steppe
34.6 Balkanic
18.8 Baltic
2.4 East_Asian


Target: Ion_Basescul_brother_i_MyHeritage
Distance: 2.0023% / 0.02002306 | ADC: 0.25x
44.4 Steppe
31.8 Balkanic
21.4 Baltic
1.2 East_Asian
1.2 West_Asian


Target: Ion_Basescul_mom_i_MyHeritage
Distance: 1.9120% / 0.01911962 | ADC: 0.25x
42.6 Steppe
30.8 Balkanic
24.6 Baltic
2.0 East_Asian


Target: Ion_Basescul_dad_i_MyHeritage
Distance: 1.9095% / 0.01909533 | ADC: 0.25x
48.8 Steppe
30.2 Balkanic
19.6 Baltic
1.4 East_Asian


Supreeeme Myheritage G25 model:
Target: Ion_Basescul_23andme+LivingDNA
Distance: 2.2766% / 0.02276559
65.8 Balkan
28.0 East_European
2.2 North_and_West_European
2.0 Mongolian
1.8 Chinese_and_Vietnamese
0.2 Central_Asian


Target: Ion_Basescul_brother_i_MyHeritage
Distance: 1.2450% / 0.01244967
54.8 Balkan
32.6 Baltic
9.2 West_Asian
2.2 Central_Asian
1.2 Nepali


Target: Ion_Basescul_mom_i_MyHeritage
Distance: 1.7319% / 0.01731897
42.2 Baltic
40.4 Balkan
7.2 West_Asian
7.0 Sardinian
1.2 Nepali
1.0 Eskimo_Inuit
1.0 Thai_and_Cambodian


Target: Ion_Basescul_dad_i_MyHeritage
Distance: 1.0734% / 0.01073411
42.8 Balkan
27.8 Baltic
12.2 West_Asian
9.2 East_European
5.2 Scandinavian
1.0 Mesoamerican_Andean
0.8 Central_African
0.8 Nepali
0.2 Central_Asian

[Luke35]

I think what's happening is that the West Asian simply escapes from the Balkan component, because as you can see above in Supreeeme's model, you received only 5.4% Balkan.

^^^Excellent post and point from Ion.

I agree with what he pointed out about your results in Supreeeme's model Chris, that's what I was trying to say in my post but I did not articulate it as well.

[Luke35]

Whether or not you have more West Asian than Ion's fam or not, it's tough to say, it's close. Bottom line, you have a lot for a Hungarian, even though you are half Szekely (who average more WA), you are half Hungarian from Hungary, and your amount of WA is impressively high.

[RyoHazuki]

I see what you mean (Oszkar and RyoHazuki), but based on what I know so far and my other DNA test results, this actually looks really accurate for me. Maybe for some people it works better, like Myheritage (which was more of a bullsh*t result in my case compared to this one).

What was your Myheritage? Mine fared better than the Geneplaza, but is still off. I'm curious to see if they actually follow through with the talked about ethnicity estimate update this summer.

Irish, Scottish, and Welsh 41.9%
Scandinavian 39.4%
Balkan 7.6%
Iberian 2.7%
Italian 1.0%
North African 6.1%
Nigerian 1.3%

[Zoro]

Yes, but it's really a mistery to me then, why do I get more West Asian results on G25, Admixture Studio, basically everywhere ? If someone supposedly has more than me :confused: I still can't understand this.

See it for yourself:

G25 Modern Averages Scaled


Target: Chris_scaled
Distance: 1.2815% / 0.01281471
35.0 Lithuanian_PA
19.6 Sardinian
12.4 Greek_Peloponnese (I don't highlight this but this sample is like 10% West Asian itself)
11.6 Lithuanian_VA
11.4 Abkhasian
4.4 Cossack_Ukrainian
1.8 Georgian_Laz
1.6 Macedonian
1.4 Li
0.6 Ket
0.2 Ju_hoan_North

--------------------------------

Marques K64

Target: Chris_scaled
Distance: 0.7387% / 0.00738682
26.2 Germanic_Europe
20.4 Baltic
16.8 East_European
14.0 Balkan
9.6 Central_European
6.6 South_Caucasus
1.6 Anatolia
1.4 South_Chinese
1.2 North_Caucasus
0.8 Indochina
0.8 Sibérian
0.6 Indonesian_Austronesian


I just hope you can see what I mean, I'm not here to troll people I just try to figure out this mistery. It's really worthless to post all the calcs because I get more West Asian than Stears I don't know about Hrvoje but possibly more than him too.

I don't know what is the West Asian reference on GEDmatch, but maybe it's not necessarily modern West Asian or it has other components too or idk.

To summarize:

[I]The G25 model you posted shows:


S EUROPEAN / W ASIAN
19.6% Sardinian
12.4 Greek_Peloponnese
11.4 Abkhasian
1.8 Georgian_Laz

E EUROPEAN
46.4% Lithuanian

ASIAN
4.4 Cossack_Ukrainian
1.4 Li
0.6 Ket



GENEPLAZA K29

S EUROPEAN / W ASIAN
-Caucasian 4.0%
-Greek-Albanian 9.2%
-Sicilian 14.7%

E EUROPEAN
-Southern Slavic 50.5%
-Eastern Slavic 11.2%

ASIAN
-Tatar 4.8%


Based on your ethnicity I think almost everyone will agree that the GENEPLAZA is more accurate than the G25 because:

1- G25 overestimates your W Asian/S European
2- G25 models you Lithuanian whereas GENEPLAZA assigns you S. Slavic
3- GENEPLAZA says you inherited your E Asian from Tatar like whereas G25 has Li, Ket, and Cossack.


The K29 was designed by Dilawer and I don't remember the specifics of the population references but generally Gedmatch calculators and G25 overestimate W Asian because they can't distinguish many of the old Anatolia-ENF older alleles from the more recent ones. So most likely the G25 and Gedmatch are overestimating W. Asian in many Europeans because of 8000 year old Anatolia farmers.


I also remember Dilawer saying that all his Geneplaza calculators are most accurate with 23andMe V3 and V4 data and not as accurate with I think he said 23andme V5 and I think MyHeritage and LivingDna data

[JohnnyP]

Yeah pretty accurate for my father, ur Sicilian and Greko-Albanian would be Balkan ancestry.

My fathers
SOUTHERN EUROPEAN63.1%
Greek-Albanian41.0%
Sicilian22.1%
Southwest European0.0%
EASTERN EUROPEAN36.7%
Eastern Slavic36.7%
-Belarusians,Ukrainians
Oceanian0.2%
Australians, Papuans

[Chris596]

It's really weird, because apart from me, you score less West Asian than my family on K13, yet get much more West Asian with those models.

West Asian % on K13:
Me - 9.99%
Brother - 12.99%
Mom - 11.01%
Dad - 12.25%

But we are talking now about Global 25 and not GEDmatch/Admixture Studio calculators. In my family's case, it seems that there isn't much of a difference between the two. They get more West Asian on K13, which is why they pick bits of it in Global 25 too. But still, they don't amount to your values, which doesn't make sense going simply by the numbers. Theoretically, the should score more West Asian than you. I think what's happening is that the West Asian simply escapes from the Balkan component, because as you can see above in Supreeeme's model, you received only 5.4% Balkan.


Ohh, alright now I'm starting to understand it. But it's still weird because using the Marques K64 model, my father gets lots of Balkan and Caucasian ancestry too, so I'm still not sure:

Target: ChrisFather
Distance: 2.3230% / 0.02323044
36.0 Germanic_Europe
32.8 Balkan
15.2 South_Caucasus
6.2 Baltic
3.2 South_Chinese
2.4 Central_Asia_and_steppe
1.8 Sibérian
1.2 Indochina
1.0 Anatolia
0.2 Indonesian_Austronesian


Or K35 Modern...

Target: ChrisFather
Distance: 4.3035% / 0.04303492
73.4 Balkan
14.4 South_Caucasian
9.4 South_West_European
2.8 East_Asian


Target: ChrisFather
Distance: 4.3533% / 0.04353253 | ADC: 0.25x
78.2 Balkan
10.4 South_East_European
9.2 South_Caucasian
2.0 East_Asian
0.2 South_West_European


Or the Ultimate Modern World K=50

Target: ChrisFather
Distance: 4.1656% / 0.04165586
62.0 Greek_Albanian
24.4 Balto_Slavic_South
9.2 Abkhasian_Georgian
3.0 Southeast_Asian
1.4 Basque

Target: ChrisFather
Distance: 4.2289% / 0.04228946 | ADC: 0.25x
60.4 Balkan
30.8 Greek_Albanian
6.6 Abkhasian_Georgian
2.2 Southeast_Asian

Target: ChrisFather
Distance: 4.5021% / 0.04502096 | ADC: 0.5x
60.4 Balkan
33.6 Greek_Albanian
4.4 West_Turkish
1.2 Circassian
0.4 Southeast_Asian

So maybe some of the West Asian is something more recent, really, this is why it's detected in so many calculators and maybe the ~5% Caucasian which I also get in Admixture Studio is pretty much real

[Ion Basescul]

Ohh, alright now I'm starting to understand it. But it's still weird because using the Marques K64 model, my father gets lots of Balkan and Caucasian ancestry too, so I'm still not sure:

Target: ChrisFather
Distance: 2.3230% / 0.02323044
36.0 Germanic_Europe
32.8 Balkan
15.2 South_Caucasus
6.2 Baltic
3.2 South_Chinese
2.4 Central_Asia_and_steppe
1.8 Sibérian
1.2 Indochina
1.0 Anatolia
0.2 Indonesian_Austronesian


Or K35 Modern...

Target: ChrisFather
Distance: 4.3035% / 0.04303492
73.4 Balkan
14.4 South_Caucasian
9.4 South_West_European
2.8 East_Asian


Target: ChrisFather
Distance: 4.3533% / 0.04353253 | ADC: 0.25x
78.2 Balkan
10.4 South_East_European
9.2 South_Caucasian
2.0 East_Asian
0.2 South_West_European


Or the Ultimate Modern World K=50

Target: ChrisFather
Distance: 4.1656% / 0.04165586
62.0 Greek_Albanian
24.4 Balto_Slavic_South
9.2 Abkhasian_Georgian
3.0 Southeast_Asian
1.4 Basque

Target: ChrisFather
Distance: 4.2289% / 0.04228946 | ADC: 0.25x
60.4 Balkan
30.8 Greek_Albanian
6.6 Abkhasian_Georgian
2.2 Southeast_Asian

Target: ChrisFather
Distance: 4.5021% / 0.04502096 | ADC: 0.5x
60.4 Balkan
33.6 Greek_Albanian
4.4 West_Turkish
1.2 Circassian
0.4 Southeast_Asian

So maybe some of the West Asian is something more recent, really, this is why it's detected in so many calculators and maybe the ~5% Caucasian which I also get in Admixture Studio is pretty much real

Your father's kit is simulated though, so I wouldn't take it very seriously.

[Chris596]

Some of my Admixture Studio results:

Eurogenes K13
Distance: 2.31

49.00% Serbian_new
22.20% Bosniak_Tuzla
09.00% Romanian_North_Moldova_Bukovina
08.60% Bulgarian_Burgas
05.20% Romanian_Muntenia
04.80% Turk_Kardzhali-Alevi
00.80% She
00.40% Bulgarian_Ruse

Eurogenes K15
Distance: 4.11

70.00% Bosniak
14.00% Szekely
08.00% Bulgarian_Thracian
03.80% North_Ossetian
02.40% Lithuanian
01.20% Miaozu
00.60% French_Basque

MDLP World Ancient Roots K18
Distance: 3.17

51.60% Montenegrian
16.20% Hungarians
16.00% Austrian
08.20% Bulgarians
05.20% Tatar_Lithuanian
01.00% Azeri_Dagestan
00.60% Lezgin
00.60% Vietnamese_north
00.40% Tajiks
00.20% Hmong_Miao

Do you see it? Here I get lots of Balkan and West Asian separately.

[Ion Basescul]

Some of my Admixture Studio results:


Do you see it? Here I get lots of Balkan and West Asian separately.

Mhm, well if you can't identify the source through modern matches on MyHeritage, then it probably comes from an older source, which was preserved in your family's lineage.

[Roy]

Why is your East Asian regarded as the same as Tatar ancestry in your report?

[Chris596]

Why is your East Asian regarded as the same as Tatar ancestry in your report?

This is a really good question. I expected it to show up separately in the East Asian category, but instead of it I got Central-Asian (Turkic)

But for me I think it's pretty much real, it's almost exactly as much Turkic as I get in different calculators.

[Hashoeva]

you wasted your money. all other free ancestry reports will tell you the same.

[Jana]

Yes, but it's really a mistery to me then, why do I get more West Asian results on G25, Admixture Studio, basically everywhere ? If someone supposedly has more than me :confused: I still can't understand this.

See it for yourself:

G25 Modern Averages Scaled

Target: Csaba_scaled
Distance: 0.8573% / 0.00857251
19.6 Montenegrin
19.4 Estonian
18.2 Macedonian
12.8 Shetlandic
6.0 Latvian
5.2 Norwegian
5.0 Georgian_Laz
3.6 Abkhasian
3.6 Czech
2.4 Slovenian
1.4 Tibetan_Chamdo
0.8 Palestinian_Beit_Sahour
0.6 Finnish_East
0.4 Huichol
0.4 Italian_Liguria
0.4 Ju_hoan_North
0.2 Yakut

Target: Chris_scaled
Distance: 1.2815% / 0.01281471
35.0 Lithuanian_PA
19.6 Sardinian
12.4 Greek_Peloponnese (I don't highlight this but this sample is like 10% West Asian itself)
11.6 Lithuanian_VA
11.4 Abkhasian
4.4 Cossack_Ukrainian
1.8 Georgian_Laz
1.6 Macedonian
1.4 Li
0.6 Ket
0.2 Ju_hoan_North

--------------------------------

Marques K64

Target: Csaba_scaled
Distance: 0.5590% / 0.00558969
23.4 Baltic
23.2 Central_European
22.6 East_European
5.8 West_Russia
4.0 Balkan
4.0 Central_Asia_and_steppe
3.8 USA_European_Settler
3.2 Anatolia
3.2 British
2.4 South_Caucasus
1.8 Finland
1.2 Indo_Tibétan
0.8 Indochina
0.2 Canadian_indigenous
0.2 Levantine
0.2 South_west_Africa

Target: Chris_scaled
Distance: 0.7387% / 0.00738682
26.2 Germanic_Europe
20.4 Baltic
16.8 East_European
14.0 Balkan
9.6 Central_European
6.6 South_Caucasus
1.6 Anatolia
1.4 South_Chinese
1.2 North_Caucasus
0.8 Indochina
0.8 Sibérian
0.6 Indonesian_Austronesian

Bonus: My father

Target: ChrisFather
Distance: 2.3230% / 0.02323044
36.0 Germanic_Europe
32.8 Balkan
15.2 South_Caucasus
6.2 Baltic
3.2 South_Chinese
2.4 Central_Asia_and_steppe
1.8 Sibérian
1.2 Indochina
1.0 Anatolia
0.2 Indonesian_Austronesian

I just hope you can see what I mean, I'm not here to troll people I just try to figure out this mistery. It's really worthless to post all the calcs because I get more West Asian than Stears I don't know about Hrvoje but possibly more than him too.

I don't know what is the West Asian reference on GEDmatch, but maybe it's not necessarily modern West Asian or it has other components too or idk.

These are bad calculators. K13 is better, because it's using ghost component and not modern thing. All Euros apart from Sardinians (IIRC) have some degree of west asian blood and by west asian I mean CHG.
You should mesure how much you get of each ancient component on G25:

WHG
EHG
CHG
Anatolian Neolithic
Natufian
You can add some ancient east Asian sample too for mong input, but it needs to be pure.

[Ion Basescul]

These are bad calculators. K13 is better, because it's using ghost component and not modern thing. All Euros apart from Sardinians (IIRC) have some degree of west asian blood and by west asian I mean CHG.
You should mesure how much you get of each ancient component on G25:

WHG
EHG
CHG
Anatolian Neolithic
Natufian
You can add some ancient east Asian sample too for mong input, but it needs to be pure.

Chris, you can use this model:



Anatolia_Barcin_N,0.1175998,0.180118,0.0035312,-0.101158,0.0510443,-0.0483875,-0.0043582,-0.0069334,0.0362287,0.0807473,0.0079718,0.0118803,-0.0234545,0.0004691,-0.0419807,-0.0101913,0.0233091,0.0019866,0.0136954,-0.0097489,-0.0142249,0.0057723,-0.0041232,-0.0031658,-0.0043437
GEO_CHG,0.091058,0.102568,-0.083344,-0.00323,-0.08617,0.020638,0.024911,-0.001846,-0.128236,-0.074717,-0.006333,0.023979,-0.054856,0.004404,0.026601,-0.03275,0.02386,-0.013429,-0.022249,0.034767,0.033815,-0.007048,0.006532,-0.025787,-0.002036
WHG,0.1246365,0.116278,0.184789,0.189279,0.1546445 ,0.0464355,0.0131605,0.0372675,0.0890705,0.017768,-0.0153455,-0.015811,0.0159065,-0.0030275,0.053338,0.0582065,0.00502,0.016343,-0.0093015,0.055589,0.0944585,0.0111905,-0.049607,-0.160866,0.0170045
EHG:RUS_Karelia_HG,0.1236877,0.0321583,0.129855,0. 2101663,-0.010361,0.0571723,-0.0196627,-0.0234603,-0.002659,-0.0860153,0.0182957,-0.0184337,0.0333497,-0.039085,0.018865,0.0295237,-0.0148203,0.0031673,-0.0044413,0.012506,-0.007487,0.0169817,0.0093667,-0.021007,-0.0103383
IRN_Ganj_Dareh_N,0.0430252,0.0664158,-0.1550722,0.0047158,-0.122669,0.0235384,0.017109,-0.0011998,-0.082546,-0.0544158,-0.0028258,-0.0016186,0.0044896,-0.0062756,0.0316498,0.0561384,-0.0054242,0.0068664,0.0136508,-0.0334162,0.00856,-0.028836,-0.0110678,-0.039331,0.0222254
Levant_Natufian,0.020488,0.1431895,-0.0377125,-0.1387295,0.030775,-0.079484,-0.025616,-0.0175375,0.114329,0.002005,0.0332085,-0.0222555,0.076486,0.002133,0.0153365,0.009016,-0.0154505,-0.001014,-0.02206,0.040832,0.001497,0.0001235,-0.003636,-0.0044585,0.006287
West_African:Yoruba,-0.6300625,0.0625011,0.022113,0.0167079,0.0005035,0 .0124741,-0.044417,0.0477673,-0.0488813,0.0327694,0.0046205,0.0007904,0.0230561, 0.0009509,0.0125232,-0.0096067,0.0070763,0.0004491,0.006022,-0.00299,0.0015542,0.0023156,-0.0017592,-0.0004711,-0.0004246
Indian:IND_Great_Andamanese_100BP,-0.018212,-0.235603,-0.128598,0.098838,0.023389,-0.003904,-0.016686,-0.003231,0.059721,0.02041,0.023222,0.004646,-0.0055,0.001239,-0.016151,-0.008884,0.009518,0.001014,-0.004902,0.026888,-0.00549,0.011994,-0.013311,-0.001205,0.000958
IberomaurusianMAR_Taforalt,-0.189857,0.0814452,-0.0242866,-0.085595,0.027636,-0.0552202,-0.0705968,0.0184146,0.155397,0.003499,0.0209156,-0.0318316,0.0747168,-0.0513334,0.0711988,-0.0363032,0.0052676,-0.066106,-0.1424162,0.0389938,-0.0376836,-0.1255322,0.0730118,-0.0137606,0.0164534
RUS_Devils_Gate_Cave_N,0.0227646,-0.4480516,0.0728598,-0.052972,-0.0414846,-0.0407738,0.005264,0.011215,0.0075266,0.021431,-0.0507624,-0.005665,0.0027948,0.0100466,-0.0100162,-0.0120658,-0.0043026,0.0060558,0.0153102,0.0099798,0.0104566,-0.0287366,-0.0196458,-0.0016628,-0.0099152


Ideally, it also needs an ancient Siberian component, so if someone has a suggestion, feel free to make it.

Target: Ion_Basescul_23andme+LivingDNA
Distance: 4.9320% / 0.04931952
50.6 Anatolia_Barcin_N
32.8 EHG
12.0 GEO_CHG
3.4 WHG
1.2 RUS_Devils_Gate_Cave_N


Target: Ion_Basescul_brother_i_MyHeritage
Distance: 5.0502% / 0.05050246
49.4 Anatolia_Barcin_N
34.0 EHG
13.8 GEO_CHG
2.8 WHG


Target: Ion_Basescul_mom_i_MyHeritage
Distance: 5.0731% / 0.05073105
48.8 Anatolia_Barcin_N
33.2 EHG
12.2 GEO_CHG
5.4 WHG
0.4 RUS_Devils_Gate_Cave_N


Target: Ion_Basescul_dad_i_MyHeritage
Distance: 4.7881% / 0.04788066
47.0 Anatolia_Barcin_N
35.2 EHG
14.8 GEO_CHG
3.0 WHG

[Chris596]

Chris, you can use this model:



Anatolia_Barcin_N,0.1175998,0.180118,0.0035312,-0.101158,0.0510443,-0.0483875,-0.0043582,-0.0069334,0.0362287,0.0807473,0.0079718,0.0118803,-0.0234545,0.0004691,-0.0419807,-0.0101913,0.0233091,0.0019866,0.0136954,-0.0097489,-0.0142249,0.0057723,-0.0041232,-0.0031658,-0.0043437
GEO_CHG,0.091058,0.102568,-0.083344,-0.00323,-0.08617,0.020638,0.024911,-0.001846,-0.128236,-0.074717,-0.006333,0.023979,-0.054856,0.004404,0.026601,-0.03275,0.02386,-0.013429,-0.022249,0.034767,0.033815,-0.007048,0.006532,-0.025787,-0.002036
WHG,0.1246365,0.116278,0.184789,0.189279,0.1546445 ,0.0464355,0.0131605,0.0372675,0.0890705,0.017768,-0.0153455,-0.015811,0.0159065,-0.0030275,0.053338,0.0582065,0.00502,0.016343,-0.0093015,0.055589,0.0944585,0.0111905,-0.049607,-0.160866,0.0170045
EHG:RUS_Karelia_HG,0.1236877,0.0321583,0.129855,0. 2101663,-0.010361,0.0571723,-0.0196627,-0.0234603,-0.002659,-0.0860153,0.0182957,-0.0184337,0.0333497,-0.039085,0.018865,0.0295237,-0.0148203,0.0031673,-0.0044413,0.012506,-0.007487,0.0169817,0.0093667,-0.021007,-0.0103383
IRN_Ganj_Dareh_N,0.0430252,0.0664158,-0.1550722,0.0047158,-0.122669,0.0235384,0.017109,-0.0011998,-0.082546,-0.0544158,-0.0028258,-0.0016186,0.0044896,-0.0062756,0.0316498,0.0561384,-0.0054242,0.0068664,0.0136508,-0.0334162,0.00856,-0.028836,-0.0110678,-0.039331,0.0222254
Levant_Natufian,0.020488,0.1431895,-0.0377125,-0.1387295,0.030775,-0.079484,-0.025616,-0.0175375,0.114329,0.002005,0.0332085,-0.0222555,0.076486,0.002133,0.0153365,0.009016,-0.0154505,-0.001014,-0.02206,0.040832,0.001497,0.0001235,-0.003636,-0.0044585,0.006287
West_African:Yoruba,-0.6300625,0.0625011,0.022113,0.0167079,0.0005035,0 .0124741,-0.044417,0.0477673,-0.0488813,0.0327694,0.0046205,0.0007904,0.0230561, 0.0009509,0.0125232,-0.0096067,0.0070763,0.0004491,0.006022,-0.00299,0.0015542,0.0023156,-0.0017592,-0.0004711,-0.0004246
Indian:IND_Great_Andamanese_100BP,-0.018212,-0.235603,-0.128598,0.098838,0.023389,-0.003904,-0.016686,-0.003231,0.059721,0.02041,0.023222,0.004646,-0.0055,0.001239,-0.016151,-0.008884,0.009518,0.001014,-0.004902,0.026888,-0.00549,0.011994,-0.013311,-0.001205,0.000958
IberomaurusianMAR_Taforalt,-0.189857,0.0814452,-0.0242866,-0.085595,0.027636,-0.0552202,-0.0705968,0.0184146,0.155397,0.003499,0.0209156,-0.0318316,0.0747168,-0.0513334,0.0711988,-0.0363032,0.0052676,-0.066106,-0.1424162,0.0389938,-0.0376836,-0.1255322,0.0730118,-0.0137606,0.0164534
RUS_Devils_Gate_Cave_N,0.0227646,-0.4480516,0.0728598,-0.052972,-0.0414846,-0.0407738,0.005264,0.011215,0.0075266,0.021431,-0.0507624,-0.005665,0.0027948,0.0100466,-0.0100162,-0.0120658,-0.0043026,0.0060558,0.0153102,0.0099798,0.0104566,-0.0287366,-0.0196458,-0.0016628,-0.0099152


Ideally, it also needs an ancient Siberian component, so if someone has a suggestion, feel free to make it.


Thanks, this is what I get here:

Target: Chris_scaled
Distance: 4.4989% / 0.04498889
50.8 Anatolia_Barcin_N
27.4 EHG
14.8 GEO_CHG
7.0 WHG

Target: ChrisFather
Distance: 4.8421% / 0.04842099
51.6 Anatolia_Barcin_N
20.0 GEO_CHG
17.8 EHG
8.8 WHG
1.8 RUS_Devils_Gate_Cave_N

[DedPerded]

Lol. I am 50% Tatar from Bashkiria. Instead of the expected 50%, I received only 8.2% Tatar + 5,5% Bashkir and 20% Sicily
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[Chris596]

Lol. I am 50% Tatar from Bashkiria. Instead of the expected 50%, I received only 8.2% Tatar + 5,5% Bashkir and 20% Sicily
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Hey man I'm sorry to hear that, anyway I think that's also an indication of Turkic blood for me, everywhere I get 4.5 - 5 % Turkic in many calculators.