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Megrez

09-09-2011, 10:16 PM

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Sandra Amer Hamad has been appointed Miss Universe Denmark 2011 during a casting held by Lene Memborg, director of Pretty Danish. Sandra is 21 year old and stands 1.76m. She is half-Iraq and she represented Iraq in Miss Supranational 2010. She will represent Denmark in Miss Universe 2011.

This Miss Denmark is actually half-Iraqi and half-Bulgarian. Isn’t that fabulous? I don’t know about you but I love it when the lines that separate the different nations and religions get blurred through such marriages and beauty pageants! Sandra Amer Hamad might not be Danish but she was born and bred in Denmark and grew up under the loving guidance of a Muslim Dad and a Christian Mom who encouraged her to join Miss Denmark.

Source: http://adventuresofabeautyqueen.com/

http://normannorman.files.wordpress.com/2011/08/denmark1.png
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lol

Lábaru

09-09-2011, 10:27 PM

This Miss Denmark is actually half-Iraqi and half-Bulgarian. Isn’t that fabulous?

xD xD xD

Neanderthal

09-09-2011, 10:38 PM

Some sort of Mediterranid.

billErobreren

09-10-2011, 12:58 AM

I knew there was something funny about that chick

skandinavian

09-10-2011, 04:16 AM

east med

rhiannon

09-10-2011, 04:19 AM

Er...she sure doesn't look like a Dane I've ever seen before.... Seems none of the Scando Miss whatevers actually [I]look like the ethnic representative of their nation...

Loki

09-10-2011, 04:21 AM

She's not even pretty. They could have found nicer mixed-race girls if that was what they were after.

BeerBaron

09-10-2011, 05:03 AM

No doubt Denmark did this on purpose to try and prove they are not racist.

Hess

09-10-2011, 05:55 AM

She is very progressive overall. I am having trouble believing that someone who is half-Iraqi can look this European.

hajduk

09-10-2011, 05:57 AM

what a weird mix

StonyArabia

09-10-2011, 06:21 AM

She is very progressive overall. I am having trouble believing that someone who is half-Iraqi can look this European.

Actually it's not strange at all. Also keep in mind if she has siblings they might look more Iraqi than her. For example this more of a European half-breed that is also half-Iraqi who is born to an Iraqi father and Dutch mother.

http://i54.tinypic.com/15evmhl.jpg

Iraqis are genetically the same as the Saudis,being of genuine. Arabian stock.When they are mixed there is a lot of varied phenotypes as a result.

She's not even pretty. They could have found nicer mixed-race girls if that was what they were after.

I disagree she is rather beautiful, and looks better than the many mixed race girls out there. I would love for her to win the title!

Pallantides

09-10-2011, 10:09 AM

No wonder she looks totally alien to Northern Europe.

Er...she sure doesn't look like a Dane I've ever seen before.... Seems none of the Scando Miss whatevers actually [I]look like the ethnic representative of their nation...

What are you on about...
both the Norwegian and Swedish misses are good ethnic represntatives of their nations.

Miss Norway - Anna Larsen Zahl
http://uniklipplovesyou.no/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/IMG_29091-e1313005701120.jpg

Miss Sweden -Ronnia Fornstedt
http://www.collagestockholm.com/blogg/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/Ronnia-Fornstedt.jpg

research_centre

09-10-2011, 10:51 AM

Some sort of Mediterranid.

Surely of the far Eastern variety. She is no great classic beauty either, that's for sure, and in no means looks Danish or Nordic IMHO.

The first pic IMHO does not belong here. It is not an authentic image in my opinion, it is so clearly over-photoshopped.

Pallantides

09-10-2011, 10:54 AM

She just looks Middle Eastern imo.

research_centre

09-10-2011, 10:57 AM

No doubt Denmark did this on purpose to try and prove they are not racist.

And if that is the case, that is pathetic.

safinator

09-10-2011, 10:58 AM

She just looks Middle Eastern imo.
Not exactly.

research_centre

09-10-2011, 11:00 AM

She just looks Middle Eastern imo.

What astonishes me is how the first image to my eyes attempts but fails to make her look Nordic.

research_centre

09-10-2011, 11:04 AM

Er...she sure doesn't look like a Dane I've ever seen before.... Seems none of the Scando Miss whatevers actually [I]look like the ethnic representative of their nation...

And that is the issue I take with it and these types of ridiculous contests. This chick, who " ...is half-Iraq(i) and she represented Iraq in Miss Supranational 2010. She will represent Denmark in Miss Universe 2011."

She should just be representing Iraq, and Denmark should have distanced themselves IMHO instead of looking so moronic. 2010 sealed it.

research_centre

09-10-2011, 11:08 AM

Not exactly.

Are you kidding? She looks entirely Middle-Eastern to me.

rhiannon

09-10-2011, 11:31 AM

No wonder she looks totally alien to Northern Europe.

What are you on about...
both the Norwegian and Swedish misses are good ethnic represntatives of their nations.

Miss Norway - Anna Larsen Zahl
http://uniklipplovesyou.no/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/IMG_29091-e1313005701120.jpg

Blonde hair and brown eyes is an odd mix in a Norwegian.... She does look partially Norwegian to me...but not completely. I do not question your assertion that she IS 100% Norwegian, mind you....just that she doesn't really look it all that much to my untrained eyes. In fact, there are MANY women on your *Norwegians* thread that are much prettier than she is....and also who look more Norwegian to me. :D

Miss Sweden -Ronnia Fornstedt
http://www.collagestockholm.com/blogg/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/Ronnia-Fornstedt.jpg
Less of an issue with her....but I did see one or two of her photos that made her look something other than Swedish...to me.

However, both of these ladies are more representative of their respective nations BY FAR than this Miss Uni person who is supposedly representing Denmark. This one is just plain weird looking..

Mordid

09-10-2011, 11:49 AM

Are you kidding? She looks entirely Middle-Eastern to me.

In first picture, she look like light Indian or Pakistan. I guess her Iraq side probably look light Indian or Pakistan.

safinator

09-10-2011, 12:30 PM

Are you kidding? She looks entirely Middle-Eastern to me.
Entirely maybe not.

Hess

09-10-2011, 03:36 PM

Are you kidding? She looks entirely Middle-Eastern to me.

IMO, she would stand out in most middle Eastern countries except Turkey (if you want to consider that a middle eastern country). She is just an East Med with minor armenoid influences- Very progressive and very integratable into European society.

GeistFaust

09-10-2011, 03:53 PM

She is sort of a plethora of phenotypes mixed into one looks like her pigmentation is leaning more on the Assyroid(Armenoid/Iranid intermediate) with some Skando-Nordic/Faelid input either way she does not look European to me. She looks more Middle Eastern typical of the area from Northern Iraq, Lower Caucausian region, and Cappadocia. But she does have some Scandinavian admixture as I duly noted.

Lithium

09-10-2011, 04:08 PM

Lol, Bulgarian mixed with Iraqi... what a shame!

GeistFaust

09-10-2011, 04:18 PM

In first picture, she look like light Indian or Pakistan. I guess her Iraq side probably look light Indian or Pakistan.

Assyrioids are a unique Cappadocian type usually found in the area of Assyria originally which is located in and around Northern Iraq. Her phenotype cranio-facially is more Armenoid than her pigmentation might give off which appears Iranid. If you saw this girl and attempted to base her background simply off of pigmentation you could assume she had ancestry from Afghanistan or parts of Pakistan.

Mordid

09-10-2011, 04:27 PM

Assyrioids are a unique Cappadocian type usually found in the area of Assyria originally which is located in and around Northern Iraq. Her phenotype cranio-facially is more Armenoid than her pigmentation might give off which appears Iranid. If you saw this girl and attempted to base her background simply off of pigmentation you could assume she had ancestry from Afghanistan or parts of Pakistan.

There might be Armenoid in her, but facially, she isn't Armenoid. More like Ponto-Nordid (Bulgarian influence) with Iranid and Alpinid influence. She does look like a mixture of Bulgarian and Iraqi, but more so Iraqi. She should be disqualified for Miss Denmark. :coffee:

Logan

09-10-2011, 04:31 PM

There might be Armenoid in her, but facially, she isn't Armenoid. More like Ponto-Nordid (Bulgarian influence) with Iranid and Alpinid influence. She does look like a mixture of Bulgarian and Iraqi, but more so Iraqi. She should be disqualified for Miss Denmark. :coffee:

Such thing have always been a bit political.

Matritensis

09-10-2011, 04:46 PM

All politics aside,I actually think she's very attractive! (chainmail on,Matritensis)

StonyArabia

09-10-2011, 04:49 PM

No wonder she looks totally alien to Northern Europe.

Miss Norway - Anna Larsen Zahl
http://uniklipplovesyou.no/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/IMG_29091-e1313005701120.jpg

Miss Sweden -Ronnia Fornstedt
http://www.collagestockholm.com/blogg/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/Ronnia-Fornstedt.jpg

In all honesty the Iraqi half-breed is much better looking than them representative or not.

GeistFaust

09-10-2011, 04:55 PM

Mordid

09-10-2011, 05:05 PM

Armenoid-Iranid intermediate + North Pontid/Cro Magnon is what I would settle on.

Let's agree to disagree. ;)

Anthropologique

09-10-2011, 05:12 PM

Miss Fake Denmark.

StonyArabia

09-10-2011, 06:08 PM

Miss Fake Denmark.

Fake or not, she is good looking and beautiful and hopefully win a title. I wonder if she was not part Iraqi, would people have been spiteful toward her the same if she had another mixture, because I doubt it.

Pallantides

09-10-2011, 06:11 PM

In all honesty the Iraqi half-breed is much better looking than them representative or not.

Not at all...
Imo they are both better looking than this Iraq/Bulgarian, but you are entitled to your opinion.

Megrez

09-12-2011, 08:38 PM

I think this Sandra Amer has her beauty, but, in all fairness, the organizers of Miss contests in European countries are pushing too far the PC rule. How can a woman who isn't even part Danish allowed to represent Denmark? When it comes to Miss Denmark I want to see a woman of the same stock of Harald Bluetooth and Søren Kierkegaard, not the disposal of two countries far away from Denmark.

Now the funny thing is, while European countries are bent on finding mixed race or non-ethnic representatives, Latin-american countries which aren't even majority white are bent on finding women of European stock to represent them in the Miss Universe. For example:

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-xsyOnbr8-x0/TlRSbC390DI/AAAAAAAADSA/Im7-hRfdhHM/s1600/20110822BrunoZanardoFotoarena178752.jpg
Miss Nicaragua 2011, Adriana Dorn,

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-DnSZ2pLC5P0/TcXd6R_ZrRI/AAAAAAAAPAw/ONLmUYjHntw/s1600/00.jpg
and Miss Ecuador 2011, Claudia Schiess.

As for Sandra's classification, I think Pontid + Iranid + some Armenoid have to do with her.

BeerBaron

09-12-2011, 08:54 PM

Fake or not, she is good looking and beautiful and hopefully win a title. I wonder if she was not part Iraqi, would people have been spiteful toward her the same if she had another mixture, because I doubt it.

Oh don't start boo hooing about it just because you are an arab mix. Arabians are not scandinavian, it is not really much of a stretch to want someone who LOOKS scandiinavian, to represent their countries in a beauty contest.

Boudica

09-12-2011, 09:08 PM

She has freaking contacts in and dyed hair which makes her look pretty weird for the rest of her features. She's not ugly, but the eyes and the hair are obviously fake, lol.

research_centre

09-12-2011, 09:24 PM

In first picture, she look like light Indian or Pakistan. I guess her Iraq side probably look light Indian or Pakistan.

I didn't think Indian or Pakistani at all, because the High-Caste of those regions are largely Iranian. She just doesn't look that to me, even in the edited images.

research_centre

09-13-2011, 11:38 AM

Fake or not, she is good looking and beautiful and hopefully win a title. I wonder if she was not part Iraqi, would people have been spiteful toward her the same if she had another mixture, because I doubt it.

I feel she and her handlers opened that door themselves. If what you describe were simply the entire case, then she and her photos would not appear to be handpicked to fit the contest "du jour" as they clearly appear to me. The first photo does not even look like the second to my eyes.

This starts with the contestant, those so-called contestants and their handlers should not be allowed to hawk around as "Miss" anything for two divergent genetic regions and cultures. They should IMHO represent ONE nation by virtue of genetic heritage and physical look. Otherwise, the country title in these demeaning idiotic beauty contests is meaningless. That is my take on the matter.

Agrippa

09-13-2011, 03:19 PM

Pred. Pontid-Mediterranid/Atlantid, shows Nordoid, possibly Iranid and very slight Armenoid influences.

Fairly progressive, harmonious and attractive.

She doesn't fit into Denmark, but she is certainly above many other such contest-winners in my book.

Overall, she looks definitely more European than Near Eastern too I'd say.

Peerkons

09-13-2011, 05:18 PM

looks gypsy

Trog

09-13-2011, 05:43 PM

I'm just disappointed that such an interesting mix of Iraq and Bulgaria produces someone so unremarkable in terms of 'beauty'. Think of the magical Helena Christiansen (Dane & Peruvian).The only striking thing about this specimen is that she looks odd and disharmonious.

It seems though Denmark have went to great lengths to appease the multiculturalists, and if anything, this oddity still looks more European than the last few Miss Denmarks, so maybe they'll eventually get it right in a few years. When I think of Miss Denmark, I want to see a tall, frosty blonde amazon, not an oddity.

Some of Denmarks "finest":
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_t1SWlYs6olg/SJXYhaLaQiI/AAAAAAAAAIs/Hjfso70W13A/s400/missworld.JPG
http://media.santabanta.com/gal/mu2005/hot/denmark2.jpg
http://www.denmark.net/files/imagecache/Display/photos/miss-denmark.jpg
http://www.webavisen.dk/imageupload/Miss_Universe_Denmark_2005_Gitte_Hanspal_01.jpg
http://data.whicdn.com/images/8897274/Ena-Sandra-Causevic-Miss-Denmark-2010_large.jpg?1303048105

Even when you think they're getting it right, they select from elsewhere in Europe:
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_tFI9HtBESRo/TI4uVXkVr0I/AAAAAAAAMOc/kiBTGNykiKw/s1600/Miss+World+Denmark+2010,+Natalya+Averina+Miss+Worl d+Denmark+2010,+Natalya+Averina+Miss+World+Denmark +2010,+Natalya+Averina+6.jpg

http://www.sdamy.com/images/miss-universe-2007/swim/DK.jpg

Pallantides

09-13-2011, 05:59 PM

research_centre

09-13-2011, 06:28 PM

In addition, the point is? (Mind you, not yours per se) I mean theirs. What is ironic to me regardless of so-called parentage neither of them appear to have any relation to Norway at all. So what is the point of these sorts of contests?

I just do not get it. One is Oriental, and the other African.

research_centre

09-13-2011, 06:33 PM

Think of the magical Helena Christiansen (Dane & Peruvian).

She looks Peruvian to me.

Hevneren

09-13-2011, 06:46 PM

We have had two mixed Misses in Norway.

Kirby Ann Basken(Norwegian father and Fillipino mother) - Miss Norway 2007
http://www.outofaces.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/kirby-ann-basken-4.jpg

Melinda Elvenes(Norwegian father and Botswanan mother) - Miss Norway 2010
http://beautybodybrain.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/Melinda-Elvenes.jpg

Also another one, I'm not sure about her ancestry but it's definitly from somewhere in Africa...

Iman Kerigo
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_tUsg4205_xs/TPTapDfbrxI/AAAAAAAAC5Q/qFQHi5bcqp8/s1600/3.%2BNorway%2B-%2BIman%2BKerigo.jpg

You forgot Helene Tråsavik (2005?) and Meriam Brahimi
http://g.api.no/obscura/pub/298x1000r/00604/1116484263000_3804609763_604214298x1000r.jpg

http://www.vg.no/bilder/bildarkiv/1116234453.25729.jpg

http://www.vg.no/bilder/bildarkiv/1116407898.96567.jpg

I think she's part Thai?

Brahimi:
http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcStMUhvA5XbAvOIh5jerFpRCDUxXhtvt k8gX8goveNWSmdvYoaa5g

http://gfx.dagbladet.no/pub/artikkel/4/45/454/454808/frk_norge20430101050_9889_1.jpg

http://pub.tv2.no/multimedia/na/archive/00225/Meriam_Ler_y_Brahim_225868c.jpg

Pallantides

09-13-2011, 07:12 PM

Trog

09-13-2011, 10:17 PM

http://beautybodybrain.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/Melinda-Elvenes.jpg

I think this woman is exquisite.

Lorene

09-13-2011, 10:32 PM

^^
I agree not because she is mulatta but because she is really ugly. Strange facial shape.

Ibericus

09-13-2011, 11:06 PM

Why they put foreigners for misses, when they are not ethnic hence not representative of the country. Haven't these european countries beatiful ethnic women ? Geez.

rhiannon

09-15-2011, 11:22 AM

Why they put foreigners for misses, when they are not ethnic hence not representative of the country. Haven't these european countries beatiful ethnic women ? Geez.

I kind of agree with this.

I'd expect a Miss USA or Miss Canada to be pretty much anything.....perhaps also true for Miss Australia or New Zealand...

BUT!

The Latin American countries should have Latin-American women representing them. Plenty of pretty specimens to choose from...
The African nations....African women....many of which are quite beautiful in their own uniquely African way....
The European nations.....European women of the same ethnicity of their nations' respective majorities. They certainly have no shortage of pretty ladies who LOOK the part.

I cannot help but notice the LAs are all fair-skinned and semi-blonde....while the Scandinavians who SHOULD be fair and semi-blonde...aren't.

I don't mind some aspects of Multiculturalism the way many on this board do.....but THIS crap is....just plain crap.

Sahson

09-15-2011, 11:33 AM

She looks a bit like my evil step-sister, after spending a month in Egypt.

Hevneren

09-15-2011, 02:46 PM

I kind of agree with this.

I'd expect a Miss USA or Miss Canada to be pretty much anything.....perhaps also true for Miss Australia or New Zealand...

BUT!

The Latin American countries should have Latin-American women representing them. Plenty of pretty specimens to choose from...
The African nations....African women....many of which are quite beautiful in their own uniquely African way....
The European nations.....European women of the same ethnicity of their nations' respective majorities. They certainly have no shortage of pretty ladies who LOOK the part.

I cannot help but notice the LAs are all fair-skinned and semi-blonde....while the Scandinavians who SHOULD be fair and semi-blonde...aren't.

I don't mind some aspects of Multiculturalism the way many on this board do.....but THIS crap is....just plain crap.

There is a glaring double standard. Were Miss Kenya to be white, or Miss China to be black, there'd be a massive outcry in these countries. However, if one is to point out the obvious that native Europeans aren't Asian, black or anything else but white, one is almost immediately labeled racist, extremist and intolerant, and one's words are reduced to the status of hate speech. :rolleyes:

What these politically correct people don't understand, is that by suppressing obvious truths and turning ordinary decent people into criminals and racists, they're creating a problem rather than solving a problem that is all in their minds. They are giving extremists an excuse to hate by being the PC police and telling us that African and Asian immigrants are equally as English, German, Spanish, Danish, Norwegian etc. as we natives are. It's not a matter of superiority or inferiority, it's a matter of facts. Just as I don't turn Cherokee by living among the Cherokee, an African or Asian doesn't turn into a white native Dane or Englishman by living among the natives.

In Norway we are told that a black African or Asian is just as Norwegian as we are, because they carry a Norwegian passport, but the problem is that "Norwegian" is not the same as "American". You can become an American by legal process, you can't become a Norwegian by legal process, only a citizen of Norway.

I think that these non-natives or mixed people are more likely to get involved in pageants than native girls. At least here in Norway, native Norwegian girls are less obsessed with beauty pageants than South American or Slavic immigrants. In the Norwegian culture we emphasise modesty, a natural look and academic pursuits for females more than in South America, for example. Another thing is that these model agencies seem to go out of their way to find an "exotic look" because they seem to find classical Nordic features "boring". :rolleyes:

While I find some of the mixed and foreign Miss Norway contributions attractive, they're still not representative of my people, and I think the whole point of such pageants should be to show the authentic native ethnic beauty of each nation and people.

Aviane

09-15-2011, 08:33 PM

Eastern Med.

She being Iraqi and Bulgarian, is quite a good mix.

Princess of Heaven

09-16-2011, 08:17 PM

she has nothing of Iraqi people. How can be 50% from Iraq?

Matritensis

09-16-2011, 08:48 PM

I'm just disappointed that such an interesting mix of Iraq and Bulgaria produces someone so unremarkable in terms of 'beauty'

You can be as disappointed as you want,but most guys find her good looking for sure.You don't need to look Danish for that...she's a lot better than the freaks that gays and women want to present as "models of beauty" nowadays.Alien heads and all that bunch,you know....and yes,a pure Danish woman should be the candidate,I agree.

StonyArabia

06-10-2014, 02:15 AM