G25 Western Europe model : [Archive] - The Apricity Forum: A European Cultural Community

JamesBond007

08-04-2020, 06:59 AM

This is my first calculator so it may be flawed I'm not sure.

It may not work for certain southern Europeans (who seem to be negrofied and arabified) nor for Slavics but for Western Europeans and probably northern Europeans too but not Finns probably. The Latin sample is ancient so that is why it does not work that well with all modern southern Euros. It is all based on ancient samples because in my opinion ancient samples are the best because people rarely travelled far back then. I wasn't trying to exclude people I'm just embracing minimalism this is an ultra minimal calculator while still being useful. What I mean when I say it may not work is not getting a distance under 3.

https://www.azquotes.com/picture-quotes/quote-any-fool-can-make-something-complicated-it-takes-a-genius-to-make-it-simple-woody-guthrie-34-73-31.jpg

Insular_Celtic,0.1263435,0.129988,0.0607165,0.0644 385,0.0296975,0.022172,0.0019975,0.006,0.002761,-0.0058315,-0.00138,0.0086925,-0.009737,-0.0165835,0.0229365,0.0146515,-0.003716,0.006968,0.0011315,0.0049395,0.006613,0.0 0643,0.00228,0.0110255,-0.0029335
Continental_Celtic,0.12862,0.1376045,0.0705215,0.0 34238,0.0481625,0.004044,0.0019975,0.001385,0.0185 09,0.019955,-0.012017,-0.0052455,-0.00944,0.0006195,0.0095685,-0.0013255,-0.005998,0.001774,0.0048395,0.0080665,0.001061,0.0 019785,-0.0006165,-0.005422,-0.0034725
Insular_Germanic,0.129758,0.132019,0.070899,0.0594 32,0.044624,0.025937,0.00282,0.005538,0,-0.006743,-0.006171,0.004796,-0.012785,-0.012386,0.028366,0.0179,0.00691,-0.003674,0.006159,0.008004,0.008235,0.005193,0.000 37,0.019521,0.002036
Latin,0.1039821,0.1495156,-0.0235307,-0.0574065,0.0045265,-0.0204055,-0.0011946,-0.0051488,0.0006604,0.0196549,0.0034575,0.0025539,-0.0040602,-0.0014737,-0.0081715,-0.0014474,0.0035992,0.000454,0.0012178,-0.0032854,-0.0025579,0.0020454,-0.0006985,-0.0004845,0.0004141
Continental_Germanic,0.1223596,0.1303939,0.061169, 0.048773,0.039792,0.0199408,0.010975,0.0052151,0.0 013295,-0.0024966,-0.003735,0.001109,-0.0091576,-0.0038398,0.0161643,-0.0008352,-0.0133511,0.0032684,0.0041354,0.0040271,0.0060019, 0.0037342,-0.0007273,0.011146,-0.0004429

https://vahaduo.github.io/vahaduo/

Distance to: Kevin_scaled
0.02932190 Insular_Germanic
0.03097055 Insular_Celtic
0.03772228 Continental_Germanic
0.05485317 Continental_Celtic
0.15732186 Latin

Target: Kevin_scaled
Distance: 2.0120% / 0.02012031
60.6 Insular_Germanic
22.2 Insular_Celtic
9.2 Continental_Celtic
8.0 Latin

JamesBond007

08-04-2020, 07:02 AM

Some modern populations run through the calculator :

Target: Welsh
Distance: 1.3513% / 0.01351268
25.4 Insular_Germanic
24.6 Continental_Germanic
23.0 Continental_Celtic
21.0 Insular_Celtic
6.0 Latin

Target: Belgian
Distance: 1.3039% / 0.01303943
29.4 Continental_Celtic
25.8 Insular_Germanic
20.2 Continental_Germanic
17.8 Latin
6.8 Insular_Celtic

Target: French_Paris
Distance: 1.8607% / 0.01860722
43.2 Continental_Celtic
30.4 Insular_Germanic
19.8 Latin
6.6 Insular_Celtic

Target: Scottish
Distance: 1.3710% / 0.01371004
40.8 Continental_Germanic
23.6 Insular_Celtic
17.2 Insular_Germanic
15.8 Continental_Celtic
2.6 Latin

Target: Dutch
Distance: 0.8562% / 0.00856198
53.0 Continental_Germanic
25.6 Insular_Germanic
9.2 Continental_Celtic
8.0 Insular_Celtic
4.2 Latin

Target: English
Distance: 1.4421% / 0.01442122
38.2 Continental_Germanic
20.6 Continental_Celtic
20.0 Insular_Germanic
17.0 Insular_Celtic
4.2 Latin

dududud

08-04-2020, 08:08 AM

What population do you use for latin?

My results (75% Northern Frog / 25% Sardinian):

Distance: 3.5466% / 0.03546593
69.0 Continental_Celtic
30.0 Latin
1.0 Continental_Germanic

My father (100% French, mostly Northern Frog):
Distance: 3.3414% / 0.03341391
58.4 Continental_Germanic
29.6 Continental_Celtic
10.4 Latin
1.6 Insular_Celtic

Mother (50% Sardinian 50% Northern Frog):
Distance: 5.0587% / 0.05058690
53.8 Continental_Celtic
46.2 Latin

oszkar07

08-04-2020, 08:19 AM

Target: Oszkar
Distance: 2.6508% / 0.02650789 | ADC: 0.25x
64.6 Continental_Germanic
31.4 Continental_Celtic
4.0 Latin

Target: Oszkar
Distance: 2.6453% / 0.02645298
63.6 Continental_Germanic
31.2 Continental_Celtic
5.2 Latin

oszkar07

08-04-2020, 08:20 AM

Double le bump

Rocinante

08-04-2020, 08:29 AM

"It may not work for certain southern Europeans (who seem to be negrofied and arabified)"

Distance: 2.0120% / 0.02012031
60.6 Insular_Germanic
22.2 Insular_Celtic
9.2 Continental_Celtic
8.0 Latin

lulz.

JamesBond007

08-04-2020, 08:32 AM

What population do you use for latin?

ITA_Rome_Imperial but that is not Basque so that may be a problem for certain French and Spanish users I dunno. Then again you are Canadian not European per se :P

Distance to: ITA_Rome_Imperial
0.01380554 Greek_Kos
0.01985659 Greek_Crete
0.02042246 Romaniote_Jew
0.02138600 Italian_Jew
0.02255284 Ashkenazi_Germany
0.02276899 Italian_Calabria
0.02383270 Sephardic_Jew
0.02403622 Italian_Campania
0.02612462 Cypriot
0.02922502 Italian_Basilicata
0.03103712 Sicilian_East
0.03107618 Italian_Apulia
0.03124132 Ashkenazi_Poland
0.03313262 Ashkenazi_Belarussia
0.03323830 Ashkenazi_Lithuania
0.03376597 Maltese
0.03395882 Syrian_Jew
0.03513331 Greek_Central_Anatolia
0.03539994 Ashkenazi_Ukraine
0.03615338 Ashkenazi_Russia
0.03704080 Italian_Abruzzo
0.03852016 Greek_Izmir
0.03951644 Italian_Molise
0.04125369 Sicilian_West
0.04443416 Druze

JamesBond007

08-04-2020, 08:35 AM

*edited out*

Tchek

08-04-2020, 08:47 AM

Target: Tchek_scaled
Distance: 2.5423% / 0.02542263
41.4 Continental_Germanic
40.4 Continental_Celtic
18.2 Latin

Defcon2

08-04-2020, 08:48 AM

JamesBond007

08-04-2020, 09:08 AM

JamesBond007

08-04-2020, 09:22 AM

*edited out*

RyoHazuki

08-04-2020, 09:22 AM

double

JamesBond007

08-04-2020, 09:26 AM

Target: Juan_scaled
Distance: 4.9919% / 0.04991870
62.8 Continental_Celtic
37.2 Latin

With Arabia Saudi, Moroccan_North and Yoruba:

Target: Juan_scaled
Distance: 4.1576% / 0.04157594
62.2 Continental_Celtic
21.0 Latin
16.2 Moroccan_North
0.6 Continental_Germanic

None under 3 :(

Try this :

Insular_Celtic,0.1263435,0.129988,0.0607165,0.0644 385,0.0296975,0.022172,0.0019975,0.006,0.002761,-0.0058315,-0.00138,0.0086925,-0.009737,-0.0165835,0.0229365,0.0146515,-0.003716,0.006968,0.0011315,0.0049395,0.006613,0.0 0643,0.00228,0.0110255,-0.0029335
Continental_Celtic,0.12862,0.1376045,0.0705215,0.0 34238,0.0481625,0.004044,0.0019975,0.001385,0.0185 09,0.019955,-0.012017,-0.0052455,-0.00944,0.0006195,0.0095685,-0.0013255,-0.005998,0.001774,0.0048395,0.0080665,0.001061,0.0 019785,-0.0006165,-0.005422,-0.0034725
Insular_Germanic,0.129758,0.132019,0.070899,0.0594 32,0.044624,0.025937,0.00282,0.005538,0,-0.006743,-0.006171,0.004796,-0.012785,-0.012386,0.028366,0.0179,0.00691,-0.003674,0.006159,0.008004,0.008235,0.005193,0.000 37,0.019521,0.002036
Latin,0.1039821,0.1495156,-0.0235307,-0.0574065,0.0045265,-0.0204055,-0.0011946,-0.0051488,0.0006604,0.0196549,0.0034575,0.0025539,-0.0040602,-0.0014737,-0.0081715,-0.0014474,0.0035992,0.000454,0.0012178,-0.0032854,-0.0025579,0.0020454,-0.0006985,-0.0004845,0.0004141
Continental_Germanic,0.1223596,0.1303939,0.061169, 0.048773,0.039792,0.0199408,0.010975,0.0052151,0.0 013295,-0.0024966,-0.003735,0.001109,-0.0091576,-0.0038398,0.0161643,-0.0008352,-0.0133511,0.0032684,0.0041354,0.0040271,0.0060019, 0.0037342,-0.0007273,0.011146,-0.0004429
DeepAncientIberia,0.1200835,0.1497905,0.050534,-0.0134045,0.064166,-0.0133865,-0.0019975,0.0047305,0.046018,0.062416,-0.003735,0.012214,-0.022894,-0.013212,0.0059715,-0.0007955,-0.0037815,-0.003864,0.001571,0.003064,0.0146615,0.0007415,-0.00758,-0.0265095,0.002215

RyoHazuki

08-04-2020, 09:27 AM

Target: Ryo_scaled
Distance: 2.9744% / 0.02974413
84.6 Continental_Germanic
10.8 Continental_Celtic
4.6 Latin

It may not work for certain southern Europeans (who seem to be negrofied and arabified)
XD

JamesBond007

08-04-2020, 09:31 AM

*edited out*

dududud

08-04-2020, 09:33 AM

ITA_Rome_Imperial but that is not Basque so that may be a problem for certain French and Spanish users I dunno. Then again you are Canadian not European per se :P

Distance to: ITA_Rome_Imperial
0.01380554 Greek_Kos
0.01985659 Greek_Crete
0.02042246 Romaniote_Jew
0.02138600 Italian_Jew
0.02255284 Ashkenazi_Germany
0.02276899 Italian_Calabria
0.02383270 Sephardic_Jew
0.02403622 Italian_Campania
0.02612462 Cypriot
0.02922502 Italian_Basilicata
0.03103712 Sicilian_East
0.03107618 Italian_Apulia
0.03124132 Ashkenazi_Poland
0.03313262 Ashkenazi_Belarussia
0.03323830 Ashkenazi_Lithuania
0.03376597 Maltese
0.03395882 Syrian_Jew
0.03513331 Greek_Central_Anatolia
0.03539994 Ashkenazi_Ukraine
0.03615338 Ashkenazi_Russia
0.03704080 Italian_Abruzzo
0.03852016 Greek_Izmir
0.03951644 Italian_Molise
0.04125369 Sicilian_West
0.04443416 Druze

I live in France, in Europe. I like just like the old french Quebec flag.

Defcon2

08-04-2020, 09:49 AM

Try this :

Insular_Celtic,0.1263435,0.129988,0.0607165,0.0644 385,0.0296975,0.022172,0.0019975,0.006,0.002761,-0.0058315,-0.00138,0.0086925,-0.009737,-0.0165835,0.0229365,0.0146515,-0.003716,0.006968,0.0011315,0.0049395,0.006613,0.0 0643,0.00228,0.0110255,-0.0029335
Continental_Celtic,0.12862,0.1376045,0.0705215,0.0 34238,0.0481625,0.004044,0.0019975,0.001385,0.0185 09,0.019955,-0.012017,-0.0052455,-0.00944,0.0006195,0.0095685,-0.0013255,-0.005998,0.001774,0.0048395,0.0080665,0.001061,0.0 019785,-0.0006165,-0.005422,-0.0034725
Insular_Germanic,0.129758,0.132019,0.070899,0.0594 32,0.044624,0.025937,0.00282,0.005538,0,-0.006743,-0.006171,0.004796,-0.012785,-0.012386,0.028366,0.0179,0.00691,-0.003674,0.006159,0.008004,0.008235,0.005193,0.000 37,0.019521,0.002036
Latin,0.1039821,0.1495156,-0.0235307,-0.0574065,0.0045265,-0.0204055,-0.0011946,-0.0051488,0.0006604,0.0196549,0.0034575,0.0025539,-0.0040602,-0.0014737,-0.0081715,-0.0014474,0.0035992,0.000454,0.0012178,-0.0032854,-0.0025579,0.0020454,-0.0006985,-0.0004845,0.0004141
Continental_Germanic,0.1223596,0.1303939,0.061169, 0.048773,0.039792,0.0199408,0.010975,0.0052151,0.0 013295,-0.0024966,-0.003735,0.001109,-0.0091576,-0.0038398,0.0161643,-0.0008352,-0.0133511,0.0032684,0.0041354,0.0040271,0.0060019, 0.0037342,-0.0007273,0.011146,-0.0004429
DeepAncientIberia,0.1200835,0.1497905,0.050534,-0.0134045,0.064166,-0.0133865,-0.0019975,0.0047305,0.046018,0.062416,-0.003735,0.012214,-0.022894,-0.013212,0.0059715,-0.0007955,-0.0037815,-0.003864,0.001571,0.003064,0.0146615,0.0007415,-0.00758,-0.0265095,0.002215

Target: Juan_scaled
Distance: 3.8495% / 0.03849498
45.2 DeepAncientIberia
31.2 Continental_Germanic
23.6 Latin

In the case of old samples it is fine.

J. Ketch

08-04-2020, 09:57 AM

JamesBond007

08-04-2020, 10:06 AM

I live in France, in Europe. I like just like the old french Quebec flag.

https://i.postimg.cc/6px5zdGq/sample2.png

https://i.postimg.cc/LX8sL2gV/sample1.png

RyoHazuki

08-04-2020, 10:07 AM

Adds NE Iberia and Greek Egypt

Target: Ryo_scaled
Distance: 2.6928% / 0.02692783
78.8 Continental_Germanic
19.2 Iberia_Northeast_c.6-8CE_ES
2.0 EGY_Hellenistic

JamesBond007

08-04-2020, 10:08 AM

Fuck Woody Guthrie. You dun goofed.

I did not goof it works for all French except for the the South French who are really Spanish. I never claimed it works for Southern Euros. Also, my second model works for Southern French (Spanish) too. France is Western Europe -- Spain is southern Europe. I never said my model works for Southern Euros.

JamesBond007

08-04-2020, 10:24 AM

Fuck Woody Guthrie. You dun goofed.

Target: Creoda_scaled
Distance: 2.3715% / 0.02371537
64.0 Continental_Germanic
25.0 Insular_Celtic
11.0 Continental_Celtic

Distance to: Creoda_scaled
0.02521238 Continental_Germanic
0.03580068 Insular_Celtic
0.04303927 Insular_Germanic
0.05030965 Continental_Celtic
0.16268456 Latin

You scored under 2.5 which is good then you proceed to tell me 'I goofed' ? Anyway, all that really matters is it works for France WHICH IS WESTERN EUROPE that it works for other Western Europeans pretty well is just icing on the cake. I think it works for even Swedes and Norwegians except for Swedes by Finland ,maybe.

gixajo

08-04-2020, 10:29 AM

Adds NE Iberia and Greek Egypt

Target: Ryo_scaled
Distance: 2.6928% / 0.02692783
78.8 Continental_Germanic
19.2 Iberia_Northeast_c.6-8CE_ES
2.0 EGY_Hellenistic

yeah, and some Ashkenazi Jewish good be ok also ;)

dududud

08-04-2020, 10:30 AM

I did not goof it works for all French except for the the South French who are really Spanish. I never claimed it works for Southern Euros. Also, my second model works for Southern French (Spanish) too. France is Western Europe -- Spain is southern Europe. I never said my model works for Southern Euros.

French are quite homogenous (mostly). Southern French are not "Spanish", this is more complex.

https://media.springernature.com/m685/springer-static/image/art%3A10.1038%2Fs41431-020-0584-1/MediaObjects/41431_2020_584_Fig1_HTML.png

A part of the Western South of France has a strong "Central France like" contribution while another part of the South West has a "Basque like" part (but not entirely), a part of the South East has a "North Western French like" and "Central France like"

This is much more complex than "the French from the South are Spaniards", in reality the recent genetic study concerning France showing that this is not the case and that outside the Gascony zone, where there is a strong Basque contribution. like "(but not 100%, you have also a "Central France like" contribution), Languedoc has a strong "Central France like" contribution.

I know that the Anglo-Saxons do not really know France and like to summarize everything in simple sentences ignoring the genetic complexity, but I do not blame them.

RyoHazuki

08-04-2020, 10:32 AM

yeah, and some Ashkenazi Jewish good be ok also ;)

And Baltic and it's good.

gixajo

08-04-2020, 10:41 AM

And Baltic and it's good.

Baltic will eat quite % form German and British components.

My results.

Original sources:

Target: gixajo_scaled
Distance: 3.3644% / 0.03364433
72.4 Continental_Celtic
27.6 Latin

Target: gixajo_dad_scaled
Distance: 3.9908% / 0.03990758
62.2 Continental_Celtic
37.8 Latin

Target: gixajo_mom_scaled
Distance: 3.7981% / 0.03798100
78.4 Continental_Celtic
21.6 Latin

Adding "Deep Ancient Iberia":

Target: gixajo_scaled
Distance: 1.9834% / 0.01983432
43.2 DeepAncientIberia
18.0 Continental_Celtic
16.8 Latin
14.2 Insular_Celtic
5.4 Insular_Germanic
2.4 Continental_Germanic

Target: gixajo_dad_scaled
Distance: 2.7416% / 0.02741557
43.8 DeepAncientIberia
26.2 Latin
15.6 Continental_Celtic
11.6 Insular_Celtic
2.8 Continental_Germanic

Target: gixajo_mom_scaled
Distance: 2.4501% / 0.02450142
48.4 DeepAncientIberia
43.8 Continental_Germanic
7.8 Latin

gixajo

08-04-2020, 10:53 AM

French are quite homogenous (mostly). Southern French are not "Spanish", this is more complex.

A part of the Western South of France has a strong "Central France like" contribution while another part of the South West has a "Basque like" part (but not entirely), a part of the South East has a "North Western French like" and "Central France like"

This is much more complex than "the French from the South are Spaniards", in reality the recent genetic study concerning France showing that this is not the case and that outside the Gascony zone, where there is a strong Basque contribution. like "(but not 100%, you have also a "Central France like" contribution), Languedoc has a strong "Central France like" contribution.

I know that the Anglo-Saxons do not really know France and like to summarize everything in simple sentences ignoring the genetic complexity, but I do not blame them.

Yeah, quite homogeneous ...:picard1:

https://i.imgur.com/iSEtAhe.png

gixajo

08-04-2020, 11:25 AM

"A deathly silence descends..."

Rocinante

08-04-2020, 11:28 AM

Yeah, quite homogeneous ...:picard1:

https://i.imgur.com/iSEtAhe.png

Ese mapa combina con este, y tiene muchisimo sentido:

https://p1.storage.canalblog.com/11/60/102164/117997788.jpg

JamesBond007

08-04-2020, 11:31 AM

Fuck Woody Guthrie. You dun goofed.

https://images.fineartamerica.com/images/artworkimages/medium/1/difference-between-intelligence-and-genius-daniel-hagerman.jpg

https://i.postimg.cc/WzmKcWvY/simplesimon.png

https://i.postimg.cc/ht9YY8x3/simplesimon2.png

mitalit

08-04-2020, 11:32 AM

Target: Xabier_scaled
Distance: 3.3290% / 0.03329037
48.2 Continental_Celtic
32.8 Latin
19.0 Insular_Germanic

Gallop

08-04-2020, 11:47 AM

Target: Gallop_scaled
Distance: 2.4603% / 0.02460280
49.4 DeepAncientIberia
21.2 Insular_Celtic
18.4 Latin
11.0 Continental_Germanic

Target: Gallop_scaled
Distance: 2.4807% / 0.02480674 | ADC: 0.25x
48.8 DeepAncientIberia
17.4 Latin
15.8 Insular_Celtic
12.6 Continental_Germanic
5.4 Continental_Celtic

Distance to: Gallop_scaled
0.05796874 DeepAncientIberia
0.06031653 Continental_Celtic
0.08151249 Continental_Germanic
0.09464230 Insular_Celtic
0.10020217 Insular_Germanic
0.10879290 Latin

Grace O'Malley

08-04-2020, 12:27 PM

I don't think it works for me but good try.

Target: Grace_scaled
Distance: 2.0665% / 0.02066513
40.2 Insular_Germanic
25.4 Insular_Celtic
18.8 Continental_Celtic
14.8 Continental_Germanic
0.8 Latin

InfamousAngel99

08-04-2020, 04:20 PM

Distance: 0.9082% / 0.00908205
43.2 Continental_Germanic
20.4 Continental_Celtic
19.4 Insular_Germanic
10.2 Insular_Celtic
6.8 Latin

Luke35

08-04-2020, 06:07 PM

My mother, who on paper is German + 1/8 British.

Target: Mr.G_mom_scaled
Distance: 1.9342% / 0.01934249
27.6 Continental_Germanic
24.0 Continental_Celtic
18.4 Insular_Celtic
16.4 Insular_Germanic
13.6 Latin

Target: Mr.G_mom_scaled
Distance: 1.9626% / 0.01962593 | ADC: 0.25x
37.6 Continental_Germanic
23.6 Continental_Celtic
17.2 Insular_Celtic
11.6 Latin
10.0 Insular_Germanic

Celestia

08-04-2020, 06:33 PM

Target: Celestia_scaled
Distance: 2.6441% / 0.02644126
40.8 Continental_Germanic
31.6 Insular_Germanic
10.4 Continental_Celtic
9.8 Latin
7.4 Insular_Celtic

Folcwalding

08-04-2020, 07:56 PM

@Jamesbond this is the most haircutting exercises you can make in genetics, tough job! Thanks!
Polako aka Davidski developed a special 'adapted G25' for it;
https://eurogenes.blogspot.com/2018/09/celtic-vs-germanic-europe.html

That said your model is really interesting. We are stocky North Dutch (voar is father, mour is mother):
https://www.mupload.nl/img/a38g7lwhk6.43.57.png

Looks partly a mess, that's because the differences are so small....my result for example isn't the middle of my parents samples.
Still it's indeed the case the my father comes from a region near the coast, he is more 'germanic'. Mother is more 'proto-germanic' (kind of Nordic LNBA mix of Single Grave and Funnelbeaker), close to the NW Bell Beakers. The last one is may be the reason that she is closer to the Celtic range.

But all educated guesses.

someonenotyou

08-04-2020, 10:19 PM

Target:
Distance: 2.7022% / 0.02702239
73.0 Continental_Germanic
20.2 Latin
3.6 Continental_Celtic
3.2 Insular_Germanic

Target:
Distance: 2.7130% / 0.02712989 | ADC: 0.25x
78.6 Continental_Germanic
18.6 Latin
2.8 Continental_Celtic

celticdragongod

08-04-2020, 10:21 PM

Distance to: CDG_scaled
0.02427956 Continental_Germanic
0.03427557 Insular_Celtic
0.03855419 Insular_Germanic
0.04814270 Continental_Celtic
0.15854592 Latin

Target: CDG_scaled
Distance: 2.4280% / 0.02427956 | ADC: 2x
100.0 Continental_Germanic

Target: CDG_scaled
Distance: 2.4090% / 0.02409040 | ADC: 1x
98.2 Continental_Germanic
1.8 Insular_Celtic

Target: CDG_scaled
Distance: 2.2088% / 0.02208780 | ADC: 0.5x
73.4 Continental_Germanic
12.0 Insular_Celtic
9.0 Insular_Germanic
5.6 Continental_Celtic

Target: CDG_scaled
Distance: 2.1577% / 0.02157692 | ADC: 0.25x
59.0 Continental_Germanic
16.8 Insular_Celtic
12.4 Continental_Celtic
11.8 Insular_Germanic

Target: CDG_scaled
Distance: 2.1536% / 0.02153568
53.2 Continental_Germanic
18.6 Insular_Celtic
14.8 Continental_Celtic
13.2 Insular_Germanic
0.2 Latin

celticdragongod

08-04-2020, 10:37 PM

What is the difference between the Insular and Continental Germanics?

Damião de Góis

08-04-2020, 10:38 PM

First model
Target: Gil_Vicente
Distance: 3.7726% / 0.03772557
53.2 Continental_Celtic
36.4 Latin
10.4 Continental_Germanic

Second model
Target: Gil_Vicente
Distance: 2.9778% / 0.02977803
40.4 Continental_Germanic
33.2 DeepAncientIberia
26.4 Latin

Coastal Elite

08-04-2020, 10:58 PM

Mom

Target: Daco_mom_scaled
Distance: 2.1819% / 0.02181925 | ADC: 0.25x
36.8 Continental_Germanic
30.8 Insular_Germanic
17.2 Insular_Celtic
15.2 Continental_Celtic

Target: Daco_mom_scaled
Distance: 2.1791% / 0.02179145
32.6 Continental_Germanic
31.0 Insular_Germanic
18.8 Insular_Celtic
17.6 Continental_Celtic

alnortedelsur

08-05-2020, 05:07 PM

Target: Alnortedelsur_scaled
Distance: 7.0512% / 0.07051249
45.6 Continental_Celtic
45.0 Latin
9.4 Continental_Germanic

Target: Alnortedelsur_scaled
Distance: 7.0524% / 0.07052422 | ADC: 0.25x
48.6 Continental_Celtic
44.6 Latin
6.8 Continental_Germanic

Distance to: Alnortedelsur_scaled
0.09689252 Continental_Celtic
0.10567864 Continental_Germanic
0.10774459 Latin
0.11855948 Insular_Celtic
0.12724727 Insular_Germanic

Folcwalding

08-06-2020, 07:25 AM

Difficult task, because basically all NW Europeans are 'muted Bell Beakers' ;)

dududud

08-12-2020, 04:49 PM

Yeah, quite homogeneous ...:picard1:

https://i.imgur.com/iSEtAhe.png

The Spanish métèques have a tendency to want to appropriate the South of France, as if it were the same population, which shows a lack of knowledge of French genetics.

The image I have exhibited is from a recent genetic study >>> https://www.biorxiv.org/sites/all/libraries/pdfjs/web/viewer.html?file=/content/biorxiv/early/2019/07/24/712497.full.pdf

It is reliable and made by geneticists.

Your image, in comparison, comes from what? Apricity amaters? People who have no qualifications and are neither geneticists nor scientists? What's your source? Apricity? Ahahahaha, ok.

Come on, let's be serious: this study totally dismantles the claims made by the people of Apricity.

The image that you have just exposed is absolutely all that there is more amateur and non-scientific that I could see: the orange zone, so-called "iberian cluster" would be thus scattered in a large part from the southwest in a haphazard way.

This is an amateur drawing from Apricity or whatever.

No one from Vienne (a French department) clusters with Spaniards. No individual from the Tarn (non-Basque part of the southwest) clusters with the Spaniards.

The Spaniards are Spaniards, they have their own genetics.

Defcon2

08-12-2020, 08:19 PM

The Spanish métèques have a tendency to want to appropriate the South of France, as if it were the same population, which shows a lack of knowledge of French genetics.

The image I have exhibited is from a recent genetic study >>> https://www.biorxiv.org/sites/all/libraries/pdfjs/web/viewer.html?file=/content/biorxiv/early/2019/07/24/712497.full.pdf

It is reliable and made by geneticists.

Your image, in comparison, comes from what? Apricity amaters? People who have no qualifications and are neither geneticists nor scientists? What's your source? Apricity? Ahahahaha, ok.

Come on, let's be serious: this study totally dismantles the claims made by the people of Apricity.

The image that you have just exposed is absolutely all that there is more amateur and non-scientific that I could see: the orange zone, so-called "iberian cluster" would be thus scattered in a large part from the southwest in a haphazard way.

This is an amateur drawing from Apricity or whatever.

No one from Vienne (a French department) clusters with Spaniards. No individual from the Tarn (non-Basque part of the southwest) clusters with the Spaniards.

The Spaniards are Spaniards, they have their own genetics.

There are many French people who are grouped with the Maghreb and Sub-Saharan Africa and that study does not show it

Luso

08-13-2020, 12:33 AM

Target: Luso_scaled
Distance: 4.3618% / 0.04361848
63.6 Continental_Celtic
36.4 Latin

Pierrot

08-13-2020, 05:12 PM

Target: Pierrot
Distance: 1.5851% / 0.01585129
34.0 Continental_Celtic
28.6 Insular_Celtic
19.2 Latin
15.8 Insular_Germanic
2.4 Continental_Germanic

calxpal

08-13-2020, 05:43 PM

Distance to: cpalscaled
0.04450023 Continental_Germanic
0.04792128 Insular_Germanic
0.04829939 Insular_Celtic
0.05292540 Continental_Celtic
0.13896255 Latin

Target: cpalscaled
Distance: 2.6483% / 0.02648257
67.4 Insular_Germanic
19.6 Latin
13.0 Continental_Celtic

gixajo

08-13-2020, 05:59 PM

The Spanish métèques have a tendency to want to appropriate the South of France, as if it were the same population, which shows a lack of knowledge of French genetics.

The image I have exhibited is from a recent genetic study >>> https://www.biorxiv.org/sites/all/libraries/pdfjs/web/viewer.html?file=/content/biorxiv/early/2019/07/24/712497.full.pdf

It is reliable and made by geneticists.

Your image, in comparison, comes from what? Apricity amaters? People who have no qualifications and are neither geneticists nor scientists? What's your source? Apricity? Ahahahaha, ok.

Come on, let's be serious: this study totally dismantles the claims made by the people of Apricity.

The image that you have just exposed is absolutely all that there is more amateur and non-scientific that I could see: the orange zone, so-called "iberian cluster" would be thus scattered in a large part from the southwest in a haphazard way.

This is an amateur drawing from Apricity or whatever.

No one from Vienne (a French department) clusters with Spaniards. No individual from the Tarn (non-Basque part of the southwest) clusters with the Spaniards.

The Spaniards are Spaniards, they have their own genetics.

Yeah, the Spaniards are Spaniards, we have our own genetics, but many Frenchs have also Iberian genetics, German, Italian and British.