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JamesBond007
08-07-2020, 07:10 AM
So, I've been playing around with G25 a lot lately and I made a new calculator that I find has immense value for me personally but that may mean it has limited meaning to others and necessarily severely limited in some cases. I was inspired to make it by a post here that postulated that perhaps the Anglo-Saxons were the most evolved people on the planet etc...also, I was confused about how Germanic I was for the longest time because of it being equated with blonde hair and blue eyes but that is only fully applicable to Swedish people perhaps and less so to West Germanics in general and because modern stuff like AncestryDNA etc.. is trash. If you want the truth you have to go to fine grained ancient control. Now these categories are not hard and fast and have some small overlap of populations in some cases so the continental German samples would theoretically perhaps eat away small portions of the Saxon(s) portion of the English here. I did not include one viking sample which was too closely related to the Scottish /Irish to be useful here.

So basically I wanted to know if I as an American with an 'Irish' name am more Germanic than the English using middle age samples. So, if you want to know if you are more Germanic than the English you may find this calculator useful or fun too :



DEU_MA:AED_106,0.125205,0.133034,0.064865,0.067184 ,0.03416,0.020917,0.00517,0.008769,0.002863,-0.009476,-0.006171,0.002548,-0.012042,-0.006193,0.019544,0.008486,0.015255,-0.006968,-0.015964,0.005503,-0.003244,0.012736,-0.017378,0.005422,-0.000239
DEU_MA:AED_1135,0.110408,0.132019,0.036204,0.03972 9,0.022466,0.008925,0.011751,0.006461,-0.00409,0.001822,-0.007145,0.003297,-0.001487,-0.004129,-0.003257,-0.004906,-0.006258,0.006714,0.009553,0.010755,-0.000998,0.006677,0.013804,0.003735,0.003233
DEU_MA:AED_249,0.125205,0.126941,0.071653,0.04845, 0.043085,0.023706,0.020211,0.001385,0.003477,-0.01057,-0.011854,-0.002398,-0.009663,0.003303,0.019679,-0.002784,-0.026598,-0.001774,0.004148,0.00988,0.01697,-0.006554,0.000123,0.007953,0.010658
DEU_MA:ALH_1,0.118376,0.129988,0.06939,0.051034,0. 048009,0.023148,0.014101,-0.000692,0.006136,-0.001822,-0.002436,0.003447,-0.008474,-0.012248,0.012486,0.008088,-0.005215,0.004307,0.00817,0.009755,0.009858,0.0046 99,0.001725,0.002771,-0.002395
DEU_MA:ALH_10,0.12862,0.132019,0.065242,0.047481,0 .045239,0.023985,0.006345,-0.002308,0.002863,0.004009,0.001461,0.003447,-0.011298,0.004679,0.019137,-0.002254,-0.02386,0.010135,0.005279,-0.009254,0.003868,0.012736,-0.003328,0.012291,-0.000239
DEU_MA:ALH_3,0.12862,0.112724,0.061848,0.038114,0. 036007,0.018686,0.00094,-0.002308,-0.006749,-0.011116,-0.002436,-0.004046,-0.009812,-0.002202,0.017101,0.002652,-0.01695,0.006208,0,-5e-04,0.003993,0.001113,0.009983,0.015303,-0.010538
DEU_MA:NW_255,0.118376,0.140143,0.060716,0.049742, 0.041546,0.006693,0.020681,0.015692,-0.004909,-0.000364,-0.004384,0.007793,-0.012339,-0.003441,0.026194,-0.006099,-0.025164,0.0019,0.014581,0.003252,0.004617,-0.003833,0.008874,0.023136,-0.001796
DEU_MA:STR_316,0.125205,0.12491,0.071653,0.057494, 0.040315,0.03012,0.019976,-0.004154,0.000205,0,-0.010718,0.003297,-0.012487,-0.004129,0.028501,-0.008751,-0.019036,0.007095,0.006285,0.002876,-0.001373,0.00915,0.000493,0.01928,-0.00455
DEU_MA:STR_480,0.122929,0.135065,0.062979,0.033269 ,0.044931,0.02259,0.00188,0.017307,0.003068,0.0080 18,0.009256,0.000599,0.003271,-0.019405,0.015065,-0.000663,0.002608,0.007601,-0.001257,-0.000375,0.019091,-0.000866,-0.001849,0.010001,0.002515
DEU_MA:STR_486,0.120652,0.137096,0.04714,0.055233, 0.042162,0.020638,0.008695,0.011999,0.010431,-0.005467,-0.002923,-0.006894,-0.017245,0.005367,0.007193,-0.002121,-0.028293,-0.002534,0.010559,0.008379,0.007237,0.001484,-0.01972,0.011568,-0.001078
DEU_MA_ACD:AED_1108,0.103579,0.010155,0.03017,-0.015827,-0.000923,-0.001952,-0.007285,0.007615,0.000614,0.005832,-0.007307,-0.009142,-0.004906,-0.003578,-0.006243,-0.005701,-0.005737,-0.003547,-0.014204,0.005002,-0.012728,-0.00779,-0.007395,-0.009158,-0.012454
DEU_MA_ACD:BIM_33,0.125205,0.141159,0.062225,0.037 791,0.028005,0.021475,0.022091,-0.006,0.008181,0.007289,-0.006983,0.014387,0.001784,0.013762,0.000136,-0.003713,-0.014603,0.001014,0.016089,0.005127,0.012104,-0.003833,0.018241,-0.012411,-0.005748
DEU_MA_ACD:NW_54,0.129758,0.141159,0.024136,-0.000646,0.032929,-0.004183,0.009635,-0.005077,0.016771,0.015855,0.00747,0.002398,-0.011893,0.010872,-0.005836,-0.01127,-0.002999,0.003927,0.016215,-0.014757,-0.000624,0.011994,0.00912,0.002771,0.00467
DEU_MA_ACD:STR_220,0.121791,0.132019,0.051288,0.04 199,0.037238,0.015618,0.013396,0.009461,-0.001636,-0.002916,-0.014128,-0.001499,-0.00996,0.002477,0.014386,-0.003845,-0.004563,-0.000127,0.001508,0.012006,0.003369,0.003957,0.002 588,0.011568,-0.003952
DEU_MA_ACD:STR_228,0.121791,0.122879,0.038466,0.02 2933,0.023081,0.00753,-0.008695,0.011999,-0.00409,0.004556,0.012179,-0.008243,0.000297,0.003303,0.009365,0.008486,-0.003781,0.004941,0.006913,0.009004,-0.001872,-0.004575,0.013188,0.00012,-0.003113
DEU_MA_ACD:STR_310,0.111547,0.13405,0.02489,0.0032 3,0.011694,-0.006136,0.00611,0.006,-0.001432,0.012028,0.000812,0.007044,-0.011744,-0.008257,-0.008415,-0.00411,0.009909,-0.006588,-0.001508,0.006753,-0.000374,0.001855,0.000493,-0.003735,-0.00479
DEU_MA_ACD:STR_328,0.104717,0.066009,0.039221,0.01 1305,0.001846,0.018965,0.001175,0.001615,-0.01493,-0.005832,-0.001299,0.006444,0.000446,-0.003991,0.012893,0.001193,0.001825,-0.005828,0.005028,0.001126,0.002121,-0.009892,-0.008134,0.004217,-0.003592
DEU_MA_ACD:STR_355,0.124067,0.137096,0.064488,0.05 4264,0.048009,0.021753,0.001175,0.002077,0.002659, 0.008018,-0.004547,0.012289,0.000446,-0.012248,0.022937,0.020949,0.007823,0.001774,0.000 754,0.011506,0.001747,0.005812,0.006039,0.01205,0. 004191
England_Roman:3DT16,0.126344,0.14319,0.065619,0.05 7171,0.038469,0.021196,0.00141,-0.001154,0.008385,0.009659,0.003248,0.002997,-0.012785,-0.009358,0.014115,0.001061,-0.007953,0.003041,0.002011,-0.006753,0.005865,0.005935,-0.001479,0.007953,-0.000479
England_Roman:6DT18,0.125205,0.142174,0.058454,0.0 50388,0.046162,0.021196,0.0047,0.008538,-0.000818,0.005103,0.000487,0.012589,-0.017393,-0.020368,0.023887,0.006762,-0.005346,-0.003041,0.012444,0.001,0.007986,0.000866,-0.00419,0.013857,-0.003353
England_Roman:6DT21,0.126344,0.12491,0.061471,0.04 7804,0.027697,0.013945,0.005405,0.009923,-0.00225,-0.000911,-0.019487,0.012589,-0.011447,-0.007707,0.019951,0.006099,-0.008345,-0.003927,0.002765,0.003752,0.002246,0.001237,0.003 697,0.002289,-0.001317
England_Roman:6DT22,0.125205,0.140143,0.061094,0.0 45866,0.038776,0.014223,0.004935,0.005077,0.003068 ,0.000729,-0.004872,0.001349,-0.01115,-0.016928,0.016015,0.000796,0.000652,0.003927,0.006 159,0,0.003993,0.005441,-0.011462,-0.00012,-0.000359
England_Roman:6DT23,0.126344,0.141159,0.060339,0.0 46512,0.036622,0.009482,0.005405,0.008077,0.00225, 0.001458,-0.008607,0.006744,-0.016055,-0.007019,0.030944,-0.003845,-0.018906,0.004181,-0.003268,0.012506,0.004492,-0.004081,-0.010476,0.008917,-0.001916
England_Roman:6DT3,0.132035,0.13405,0.058077,0.050 711,0.033237,0.029005,0.008225,0.003461,0.001023,-0.004556,-0.005034,0.005245,-0.017096,-0.005918,0.028908,-0.011403,-0.023469,0.001774,0.003142,0.006378,0.010731,0.000 124,-0.002588,0.011086,0.002874
England_Saxon:I0157,0.129758,0.140143,0.065996,0.0 59109,0.037853,0.019801,0.00752,0.007615,0.006749,-0.00656,-0.006496,0.008992,-0.009217,-0.01156,0.028908,0.007955,-0.006258,0.000253,0.008045,0.009755,0.003619,-0.003215,-0.005176,0.025666,-0.002874
England_Saxon:I0159,0.130897,0.135065,0.062979,0.0 53618,0.038161,0.023148,0.00329,0.006461,0.001023,-0.000729,-0.001299,0.006894,-0.014569,-0.010322,0.028366,0.010342,-0.007432,0.000507,0.004525,0.008254,0.001373,0.007 296,-0.005916,0.012773,0.003592
England_Saxon:I0161,0.12862,0.13405,0.061848,0.048 127,0.04647,0.020638,0.004465,0.005077,0.006749,0. 004738,-0.002436,0.004946,-0.006987,-0.012799,0.024158,0.006895,0.004563,0.0019,0.00364 5,0.005503,0.002246,-0.00272,0.006779,0.016267,0.003233
England_Saxon:I0769,0.129758,0.132019,0.070899,0.0 59432,0.044624,0.025937,0.00282,0.005538,0,-0.006743,-0.006171,0.004796,-0.012785,-0.012386,0.028366,0.0179,0.00691,-0.003674,0.006159,0.008004,0.008235,0.005193,0.000 37,0.019521,0.002036
England_Saxon:I0773,0.141141,0.126941,0.063356,0.0 71383,0.044008,0.024263,0.00799,0.011307,0.00409,-0.00656,-0.005359,0.005395,-0.01219,-0.013074,0.021172,0.011668,-0.001434,0.000887,0.008673,0.008629,0.010981,0.003 957,-0.003081,0.015544,-0.007424
England_Saxon:I0774,0.134311,0.13405,0.054305,0.05 1034,0.038161,0.014223,0.013161,0.007615,0.001227, 0.003462,-0.004709,0.002548,-0.00446,-0.008257,0.018051,0.009016,-0.01004,0.005448,0.005908,0,0.002246,0.000371,0.00 0863,0.016267,-0.00467
England_Saxon:I0777,0.135449,0.136081,0.063356,0.0 50388,0.040315,0.019522,0.006345,0.009461,0.01084, 0.000182,-0.005196,0.001349,-0.003271,-0.020781,0.017101,0.020551,0.00326,0.002154,0.0047 77,0.008129,0.003993,0.00643,-0.00949,0.011929,-0.002754
England_Saxon:NO3423,0.129758,0.13405,0.068259,0.0 62339,0.0397,0.017012,0.004465,0.002077,0.001227,-0.007107,-0.007795,0.001499,-0.010852,-0.010459,0.027823,0.005569,-0.014212,0.004561,-0.000126,0.005002,0.009982,0.002473,0.002465,0.015 183,0.001916
SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_84001,0.133173,0.125926 ,0.076933,0.061047,0.041238,0.021196,0.002585,0.00 6461,0.000205,-0.012028,-0.000974,0.004046,-0.000297,-0.006331,0.018051,0.013259,0.009648,0.001647,-0.000754,0.00075,0.002371,0.000371,0.005176,0.0128 93,0.001437
SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_84005,0.127482,0.120848 ,0.072784,0.070414,0.042777,0.031794,0.00611,0.014 307,0.009817,-0.022051,-0.001461,-0.001349,0.00892,0.012386,0.012893,-0.007558,-0.01708,0.002027,0.00176,0.001626,0.001497,0.00507 ,0.006902,-0.000241,0.00467
SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_97002,0.129758,0.140143 ,0.05242,0.04845,0.045855,0.014781,0.00141,0.00207 7,-0.006954,-0.014943,-0.013641,0.001349,-0.012933,-0.001514,0.001629,0.009016,0.000782,0.001267,0.000 377,-0.006878,-0.00262,-0.006306,-0.002218,0.010001,0.000838
SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_grt036,0.132035,0.13303 4,0.065996,0.056202,0.0437,0.02008,0.004935,0.0119 99,0.006954,-0.012757,-0.003248,-0.002248,0.00223,-0.001789,0.002172,0.001591,-0.001956,0.001774,0.006159,0.005878,-0.007237,0.005935,0.003574,0.002048,0.003233
SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_gtm021,0.121791,0.11881 7,0.081081,0.067184,0.045239,0.023427,0.00752,0.01 2692,-0.005113,-0.014214,0.000487,0.002398,0.007433,0.001239,0.015 608,0.00305,-0.011474,0.001267,-0.002765,0.003502,0.01123,0.004822,0.00037,0.00879 6,-0.002275
SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_KAL006,0.133173,0.09444 4,0.085229,0.092701,0.038776,0.032909,0.017861,0.0 15922,0.004909,-0.038087,-0.001137,-0.012439,0.018137,0.016652,-0.002714,0.005701,0.001173,0.003167,0.005656,0.006 378,0.007112,-0.004575,0.011216,-0.001084,0.001437
SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_kls001,0.125205,0.12084 8,0.075047,0.058786,0.040623,0.026774,0.00658,0.01 9153,0.00859,0.000911,-0.007145,-0.000899,-0.016501,-0.007432,0.022258,0.0118,-0.003651,-0.011275,0.013827,0.010255,0.012478,0.021268,-0.017131,0.012532,0.008502
SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_nuf002,0.122929,0.13811 2,0.061848,0.047158,0.044316,0.012829,0.0094,-0.002538,0.007976,-0.008565,0.007632,0.016785,-0.006095,0.006331,0.024701,-0.004773,-0.022035,0.014062,0.008045,0.008129,0.006114,0.006 183,-0.009367,0.002771,-0.010658
SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_stg020,0.126344,0.11678 6,0.086361,0.0969,0.02462,0.021753,0.00423,0.01315 3,0.001023,-0.030798,0.007795,0.002698,0.009217,0.006331,-0.000271,0.023999,0.001825,-0.009375,0.004777,0.006628,0.000749,-0.003215,0.012078,0.002169,-0.007784
SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_stg021,0.125205,0.12287 9,0.065242,0.053295,0.041854,0.027889,0.00564,0.00 3461,0.005113,-0.002551,-0.007145,0.005695,-0.007582,-0.009771,0.012758,-0.008884,-0.017993,0.001394,0.007039,0.006253,-0.001996,0.005812,-0.002218,0.004097,0.001796
SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_stg026,0.125205,0.12897 2,0.077687,0.070737,0.04647,0.024542,0.00987,0.009 461,-0.000818,-0.010752,0.003897,0.004346,-0.002676,0.005092,0.004072,0.010872,0.001825,0.005 068,0.004777,0.004627,0.006738,0.000618,-0.000986,0.010483,0.000599
SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_urm035,0.117238,0.12694 1,0.079195,0.070091,0.039084,0.032072,0.00047,0.01 5692,0.011044,-0.021504,-0.003248,-0.001499,0.013825,0.007432,0.016151,0.016043,0.010 17,0.005448,0.003142,0.009505,0.005615,0.007419,0. 002588,0.016026,-0.002515
SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_urm160,0.125205,0.12186 4,0.076933,0.068153,0.041238,0.02761,0.008225,0.01 6615,-0.000818,-0.017312,0.003897,-0.004646,0.002973,0.009634,0.0076,0.006629,0.01225 6,-0.00038,0.000503,-0.004377,0.007861,0.000371,0.003697,0.010845,0.003 113



My results :

Target: Kevin_scaled
Distance: 1.8777% / 0.01877705
69.6 England_Saxon
15.6 DEU_MA_ACD
12.2 England_Roman
2.6 DEU_MA


The results of the English:

Target: English
Distance: 0.6508% / 0.00650785
42.4 England_Roman
32.6 England_Saxon
18.6 DEU_MA
6.4 DEU_MA_ACD


^ in the case of the English sample being modeled here although the distance is slightly closer than mine I am overall obviously more Germanic but it also one can see the German samples are eating slightly away at the Saxon sample(s) which should probably be around 38 instead of 32.6 but overall this is a pretty good model of Germanic vs native Brit ancestry I feel.

J. Ketch
08-07-2020, 07:30 AM
Pointless, most of the England Saxon samples are mixed with Celtic Britons, the DEU_MA samples are also mixed with non-Germanics, and the Sigtuna samples are mixed with other irrelevant peoples. England Roman also has one or two Germanic outliers.

You aren't more Germanic than the English, you are 1/2 Irish, 1/4 Alsatian and 1/4 British (mostly Scottish), you are probably less than 25% Germanic.

Folcwalding
08-07-2020, 08:44 AM
Nice calculator JamesBond, it's worth to develop it further.

Creoda has some points though.

I want to make some more adds:
- I guess that the Bronze Age population on both sides of the Norh Sea show much similarities, both are 'muted' Bell Beaker. As known Bell Beakers came from the North Dutch/ NW Germanic area, exactly as the later on Anglo-Saxons, on both sides of the North Sea there is a LNBA population that shows much similarities in genetic sense! Of course IBD, so certain other developments, but they come close.

- Not only England but also North Dutch has an Anglo-Saxon influx. Especially the most western parts of North Dutch, nowadays called Friesland, were practically depopulated in the third/ fourth century. The more eastern parts (now called Groningen/Drenthe) were much less (Groningen) or may be not at all depopulated (Drenthe).

- Hold on to the different spheres:

I. on the east side we see during the Roman period that the Chauci/Saxons came already in. According to archeologist Nieuwhof this occurred:
a. eastern (Saxon network), western (Frisian/North Holland network) around first century AD.
b. the influx of the expanding Chauci

picture this:
https://www.mupload.nl/img/63vl1mjfg.29.45.png
https://www.mupload.nl/img/4qvhpsv.33.23.png

II.on the most west side we see two streams (according to archeologist Nicolay):
a. the Anglo-Saxons came in during the first part of the fifth century
b. the Jutes and Norwegians came in during the second part of the fifth century

Picture this:
https://www.mupload.nl/img/1rvunykjb39.39.48.png

ad b. the legendary Finn Folcwalding has in Beowulf a Jutish entourage, that is according to the second stream in Friesland, he was may be not a king but more a chieftain with a seat in Wijnaldum (most western part Friesland). A strategic place in the North Sea!

My father has a Groningen (touch Friesland) ancestry my mother a Drenthe ancestry. My father is mostly affected by the Anglo-Saxon stream, my mother has also a high LNBA Bronze age so before migration time amount. I guess the Roman Age Brittonic represents the LNBA overlap the best! (Mom higher than Dad).

Picture it:
https://www.mupload.nl/img/gds2re5xhg9uk.10.12.png

Folcwalding
08-07-2020, 08:46 AM
Double......

Grace O'Malley
08-07-2020, 12:20 PM
It's interesting looking at this I don't know if it will ever be possible because like Folcwalding said above these populations all have input from these Beakers.

Here is my result using the calculator above.

Target: Grace_scaled
Distance: 1.3457% / 0.01345730
49.4 England_Saxon
41.0 England_Roman
6.6 DEU_MA
3.0 SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna

Folcwalding
08-07-2020, 02:40 PM
This is Bell Beaker heartland, they also took to the boat to the Isles:

https://www.mupload.nl/img/zlskjqaem.png

celticdragongod
08-08-2020, 09:33 PM
Distance to: CDG_scaled
0.02505466 England_Saxon:I0774
0.02521146 England_Saxon:I0159
0.02677443 England_Saxon:I0161
0.02833758 England_Saxon:I0157
0.02836776 England_Saxon:NO3423
0.02997703 England_Roman:6DT3
0.03028696 SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_stg021
0.03087437 England_Roman:6DT18
0.03199269 England_Roman:3DT16
0.03249859 England_Roman:6DT21
0.03270508 England_Roman:6DT23
0.03439465 DEU_MA_ACD:STR_220
0.03615060 England_Roman:6DT22
0.03631814 DEU_MA:ALH_1
0.03633162 DEU_MA:NW_255
0.03637884 DEU_MA:ALH_10
0.03770922 England_Saxon:I0773
0.03778829 DEU_MA:STR_316
0.03827150 England_Saxon:I0777
0.03855419 England_Saxon:I0769
0.03911270 SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_grt036
0.04018333 DEU_MA:ALH_3
0.04212053 DEU_MA_ACD:STR_355
0.04252669 SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_84001
0.04364449 DEU_MA:AED_249

Target: CDG_scaled
Distance: 2.0710% / 0.02071029 | ADC: 2x
100.0 England_Saxon

Target: CDG_scaled
Distance: 1.7208% / 0.01720791 | ADC: 1x
77.0 England_Saxon
17.0 England_Roman
6.0 SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna

Target: CDG_scaled
Distance: 1.5480% / 0.01548011 | ADC: 0.5x
58.6 England_Saxon
18.2 England_Roman
12.8 SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna
10.4 DEU_MA

Target: CDG_scaled
Distance: 1.4710% / 0.01471044 | ADC: 0.25x
44.6 England_Saxon
23.0 England_Roman
16.8 DEU_MA
13.2 SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna
2.4 DEU_MA_ACD

Target: CDG_scaled
Distance: 1.4511% / 0.01451146
42.2 England_Saxon
21.4 England_Roman
17.0 DEU_MA
13.0 SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna
6.4 DEU_MA_ACD

Impaler
08-08-2020, 09:50 PM
:D

Target:Impaler
Distance: 3.2626% / 0.03262575
85.8 DEU_MA_ACD
14.2 DEU_MA

Luke35
08-08-2020, 10:35 PM
My mama, mostly German ancestry but she always scores notable English:

Target: Mr.G_mom_scaled
Distance: 1.3064% / 0.01306373 | ADC: 0.25x
38.4 England_Roman
32.4 England_Saxon
23.0 DEU_MA_ACD
6.2 DEU_MA

Tooting Carmen
08-08-2020, 10:40 PM
I thought it was long proven that English people have more Paleolithic than Germanic admixture (the former misguidedly called 'Celtic'), and are much closer to other British Islanders than to Dutch and Germans?

Grace O'Malley
08-08-2020, 10:50 PM
I thought it was long proven that English people have more Paleolithic than Germanic admixture (the former misguidedly called 'Celtic'), and are much closer to other British Islanders than to Dutch and Germans?

That sounds like one of those very misleading studies done in the early 2000's just using mtdna where they don't have the knowledge that they do now. All northwest Europeans are close in genetics because of Bronze Age similarity so not only English but also Irish and Welsh are close to Dutch.

J. Ketch
08-09-2020, 03:08 AM
I thought it was long proven that English people have more Paleolithic than Germanic admixture (the former misguidedly called 'Celtic'), and are much closer to other British Islanders than to Dutch and Germans?
I've heard you use the term Paleolithic to describe pre-Germanic Britons before, I thought you were out of your mind. If you'd looked at any PCA made in the last 10 years you'd know that these groups genetically overlap heavily.

Folcwalding
08-09-2020, 06:11 AM
I've heard you use the term Paleolithic to describe pre-Germanic Britons before, I thought you were out of your mind. If you'd looked at any PCA made in the last 10 years you'd know that these groups genetically overlap heavily.

Paleolithic for Britons....must be a
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qpGx4foRdPw paleo study then ;)

Wasn't it Olalde (2018) that stated that the Bell Beakers replaced 90% of the Isles genes?

Graham
08-09-2020, 06:25 AM
What is it with those bloody Saxons? lol

In an ideal world English people would match them highly and the Irish would not.

Genetics eh.

J. Ketch
08-09-2020, 06:38 AM
Paleolithic for Britons....must be a
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qpGx4foRdPw paleo study then ;)

Wasn't it Olalde (2018) that stated that the Bell Beakers replaced 90% of the Isles genes?
Right, those crazy conclusions from the 00s were that British were circa 80-90% descended from Mesolithic Iberian migrants from 10k years ago. In the uninterested Chinese Whispers version it becomes Paleolithic Cro-Magnons :D

Coastal Elite
08-09-2020, 06:45 AM
My "Saxon" mom

Target: Daco_mom_scaled
Distance: 1.5817% / 0.01581742
63.2 England_Saxon
19.0 SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna
9.6 DEU_MA_ACD
7.6 England_Roman
0.6 DEU_MA

Graham
08-09-2020, 06:50 AM
Right, those crazy conclusions from the 00s were that British were circa 80-90% descended from Mesolithic Iberian migrants from 10k years ago. In the uninterested Chinese Whispers version it becomes Paleolithic Cro-Magnons :D

Can remember when we thought Basques were basically brothers to the western parts of British Isles. the Good old R1b days.

J. Ketch
08-09-2020, 07:24 AM
What is it with those bloody Saxons? lol

In an ideal world English people would match them highly and the Irish would not.

Genetics eh.
In the more fine-scale studies (what's necessary for these populations) like the recent Irish paper, the Insular vs Germanic drift has been made more apparent.

https://i.postimg.cc/65NrhGp3/ZMSBsK1.png
https://i.postimg.cc/JzwDcw7W/Captureas.jpg



The second component of variation (Fig. 4.6B-C) is unique in that it explains a large amount of variation present in both ancient and modern individuals. This corresponds to the primary split seen in fineSTRUCTURE analysis by Byrne et al. (submitted), which segregates Ireland and Britain into two distinct genetic islands, capturing what is defined as an Anglo-Celtic cline. Western Ireland and southeastern Britain form the two extremes of this component, with the Scottish population bridging the gap between the two clusters. Strikingly, ancient samples also separate out along this axis, with Irish individuals from both the Early Bronze Age and Iron Age periods falling further towards modern Irish variation than their British and continental counterparts (Fig. 4.6B-C).
Irish Iron Age samples extend the entire range of Irish variation on PC2, suggesting substantial continuity with the modern population. Irish Early Bronze Age samples show a more constricted distribution closer to the center of the plot, but still exhibit a systemic shift towards Irish Iron Age and modern populations, particularly those from individualised burials. The most parsimonious explanation for such observations is direct continuity between the Chalcolithic/Early Bronze Age and modern period in Ireland, with much of the haplotypic variation explained by PC2 forming in the intervening millennia, in a similar manner as suggested for Wales in PC3. While migration may be partially responsible for this structure, it is worth noting that the Irish Iron Age and modern population typically extends away, rather than towards, any potential external sources of variation in the dataset, including a contemporary Iron Age population from Britain, the most likely source of migration into Ireland between the Bronze Age and Early Christian periods. However, several exceptional Irish Iron Age samples exist, returned to in later sections.

The homogenisation of British population structure through admixture

In contrast to the gentle gradient of ancient Irish variation, British and continental individuals show a more punctuated distribution along PC2 (Fig. 4.6B-C), forming two clear clusters at both ends of modern British variation. Anglo-Saxons fall with southeastern English variation in this and all other PCs considered, alongside a Nordic Iron Age sample, reflecting the large genetic contribution of Germanic migrations to this part of the island (Leslie et al. 2015; Schiffels et al. 2016). Iron Age Britons comprise another tight grouping at the opposite end of British variation, emphasising the admixed nature of the modern population (Leslie et al. 2015; Martiniano et al. 2016; Schiffels et al. 2016). Early snapshots of continental introgression events may be represented by two samples that fall midway between the two groups, one from an Anglo-Saxon context (O3), which was reported as admixed in the original study (Schiffels et al. 2016), and the second from a Roman British population (6DT23), another member of which was demonstrated to be of likely Middle Eastern origin (Martiniano et al. 2016). Notably, no Irish Iron Age samples are seen to fall into this region of the PC space.
The compression of Iron Age British haplotypic variation close to the zero coordinate, relative to that of Ireland, suggests that PC2 may not effectively explain the majority of diversity present within this group, possibly due to their lack of representation within the larger admixed modern British cohort. In this respect, PC2 is perhaps best considered as explaining the distribution of Irish-related haplotypic variation in both modern and ancient individuals, which acts as somewhat of an imperfect proxy for Celtic ancestry in the neighbouring island of Britain, counterbalancing the Anglo-Saxon input. We caution that such a phenomenon may cause similar placement of individuals for unrelated demographic reasons. For example, the placement of Northern Irish and Scottish individuals between the two islands is proposed to be the result of numerous migrations in both directions, including the Gaelicisation of Scotland circa 600 AD and the later Ulster plantations (Byrne et al. submitted). It is notable that no PC segregates Scotland from the rest of the dataset, suggesting the modern population has been mainly borne from admixture, rather than isolation, the reverse of what is proposed for Wales. Indeed, the more muted and systematic shift towards Irish variation of Welsh populations, whose diversity is better captured in PC3 and PC6, may represent more ancient shared Celtic ancestry between the groups. The tight clustering of three German Late Neolithic and Bronze Age individuals at the edge of ancient Irish variation, alongside the Iron Age British population, could also be due to a similar effect of older shared ancestry. Such an interpretation may find some temporal grounding in the differential placement of a Nordic Late Neolithic individual further towards the Germanic extreme of the plot.

Leto
08-09-2020, 08:11 AM
Right, those crazy conclusions from the 00s were that British were circa 80-90% descended from Mesolithic Iberian migrants from 10k years ago. In the uninterested Chinese Whispers version it becomes Paleolithic Cro-Magnons :D
Well, at least that implied the white British are indigenous to the isles.
Happy Indigenous Peoples' Day! :cool:

Kyp
08-09-2020, 08:18 AM
Target: MotherKyp
Distance: 1.0001% / 0.01000067
38.4 DEU_MA_ACD
34.2 SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna
12.4 DEU_MA
11.8 England_Saxon
3.2 England_Roman

PaleoEuropean
08-09-2020, 08:25 AM
Paleolithic for Britons....must be a
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qpGx4foRdPw paleo study then ;)

Wasn't it Olalde (2018) that stated that the Bell Beakers replaced 90% of the Isles genes?

The Bell Beakers replaced the Southern Mesolithic peoples to some degree but that is based on archaeological record which really doesn't hold weight; in archaeology the absence of evidence is not the evidence of absence, but the vast majority of Paleoithic people survived in the North and in Ireland. Britain is a treasure trove of rare Paleolithic subclades. The Paleothic population was tiny, the Neolithics and Beakers probably grew their population ten fold from what it was before they arrived. The Cro-Magnons of Britain were founded by a population of no more than a dozen people who survived the Doggerland extinction events. Even the Mesolithic farmer/hg people weren't that numerous.

J. Ketch
08-09-2020, 08:39 AM
Well, at least that implied the white British are indigenous to the isles.
Happy Indigenous Peoples' Day! :cool:
That's one way to look at it, but the angle they went for was that our national identities and origin stories were a lie.

Folcwalding
08-09-2020, 08:42 AM
In the more fine-scale studies (what's necessary for these populations) like the recent Irish paper, the Insular vs Germanic drift has been made more apparent.

https://i.postimg.cc/65NrhGp3/ZMSBsK1.png
https://i.postimg.cc/JzwDcw7W/Captureas.jpg

Thanks!! Interesting.

Basically, seen trough the lens of Davidski basic three hunter-farmer-herder, we see that from Rathlin, Nordic LNBA, Early Germanics until Finn Mom the same kind of mixtures....NO clear cut differences between the "Celtic' and 'Germanic' range!

https://www.mupload.nl/img/x541nb.34.39.png

Folcwalding
08-09-2020, 08:49 AM
Well, at least that implied the white British are indigenous to the isles.
Happy Indigenous Peoples' Day! :cool:

Leto one thing is clear for me I'm interested in my genetic roots, but no superiority claims or Nordicism.

I despise people with a deviation in the right arm.....(even a reason why I hesitate to post here, some have a clear :hitler: affinity.....mmm :puke

Let that be clear!

Folcwalding
08-09-2020, 08:56 AM
@Paleoeuropean

The Bell Beakers replaced the Southern Mesolithic peoples to some degree but that is based on archaeological record which really doesn't hold weight

Nope it's based on genetics!

The BB rathlin types came from Dutch/NW German area, like the later on saxons. They replaced the neolithic Isles population.

Leto
08-09-2020, 09:02 AM
Leto one thing is clear for me I'm interested in my genetic roots, but no superiority claims or Nordicism.

I despise people with a deviation in the right arm.....(even a reason why I hesitate to post here, some have a clear :hitler: affinity.....mmm :puke

Let that be clear!
What are you talking about? Who said anything about Nordicism? I was talking about being native and mind you I'm not English or British. And I don't even know you, so why would I care what you like or despise. For that matter, I despise leftism and globalism, just so you know, mate.

Folcwalding
08-09-2020, 09:05 AM
What are you talking about? Who said anything about Nordicism? I was talking about being native and mind you I'm not English or British. And I don't even know you, so why would I care what you like or despise. For that matter, I despise leftism and globalism, just so you know, mate.

No was just a statement! Personal reason nothing to do with you.....

I guess the 'white' factor combined with the nazi flag above was the reason, I don't want to associate me with a bunch of neo-nazi's.

For the rest all agree to disagree no problem. Let diversity rule....

PaleoEuropean
08-09-2020, 09:20 AM
@Paleoeuropean


Nope it's based on genetics!

The BB rathlin types came from Dutch/NW German area, like the later on saxons. They replaced the neolithic Isles population.
The whole Aryan Invasion/Replacement theory is based off 1800's political pseudoscience. We are still in the infancy of genetics and back in 2017 Harvard did a study that showed that HG/Mesomixed Farmers just interbred. You can find not only exclusive British HG subclades in Britain but plenty of Neolithic E, J and G as well. Also Britain has some of the highest concentration of HG admixture in Europe, idk what studies or info you are going off.

https://i.imgur.com/zfDvJiE.png

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-5062947/Europeans-hunter-gather-genes-thought.html

Folcwalding
08-09-2020, 09:24 AM
The whole Aryan Invasion/Replacement theory is based off 1800's political pseudoscience. We are still in the infancy of genetics and back in 2017 Harvard did a study that showed that HG/Mesomixed Farmers just interbred. You can find not only exclusive British HG subclades in Britain but plenty of Neolithic E, J and G as well. Also Britain has some of the highest concentration of HG admixture in Europe, idk what studies or info you are going off.

https://i.imgur.com/zfDvJiE.png

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-5062947/Europeans-hunter-gather-genes-thought.html

That's new for me not "das Arische Herrenvolk" pictured in your add but now we got "das Hunter Herrenvolk". ROFLOL

Davystayn
08-09-2020, 09:43 AM
What is it with those bloody Saxons? lol

In an ideal world English people would match them highly and the Irish would not.

Genetics eh.

I remember those early studies saying basques basically peopled the whole of western Europe including Norway :picard1: aren't lowland south eastern Scots pretty much identical to north east English?

Graham
08-09-2020, 09:57 AM
I remember those early studies saying basques basically peopled the whole of western Europe including Norway :picard1: aren't lowland south eastern Scots pretty much identical to north east English?

Similar to Northern England yeah, but South East Scotland never really had a population. Unless you count Berwick Upon Tweed. :P

Not sure what Edinburgh's DNA is to be honest. Too many people coming and out like the other cities.

Kind of weird but East Scotland is actually north of North West England mostly.

Davystayn
08-09-2020, 12:43 PM
Yes true, seems Cumbria is more like Dumfries & Galloway, Northumberland like Lothian, does seem more of a divide that I thought between Glasgow and Edinburgh

Folcwalding
08-09-2020, 03:47 PM
I'm curios post your result!!!

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?329691-Hunter-Farmer-Herder-in-Euro-pop-unscaled-G25-post-your-result&p=6837092#post6837092

J. Ketch
08-10-2020, 04:48 PM
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Norse:vik_stg021_Sweden_Viking.SG_924_ybp,46.77,30 .03,10.61,4.43,1.83,0.06,2.26,1.24,0.54,0.73,0.18, 1.18,0.16
Norse:stg021_Sigtuna_,50.43,32.96,11.10,4.19,0.52, 0.00,0.24,0.27,0.00,0.23,0.00,0.00,0.00
Roman:R37_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial,40.85,15.39,33 .11,0.00,6.24,1.63,0.00,0.01,0.66,0.00,1.40,0.72,0 .00
Roman:R38_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial,1.92,0.00,18.7 1,28.11,41.51,8.68,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.45,0.34,0.00,0 .28
Roman:R39_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial,9.38,2.57,24.9 7,19.78,34.82,5.66,0.00,1.74,0.29,0.78,0.00,0.00,0 .00
Roman:R40_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial,14.72,0.00,23. 00,19.52,36.20,5.66,0.00,0.47,0.15,0.00,0.00,0.00, 0.27
Roman:R41_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial,8.70,0.00,21.4 7,17.49,39.58,7.59,0.39,1.94,0.00,0.76,0.14,1.91,0 .03
Roman:R42_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial,0.53,0.00,15.4 0,20.48,43.20,14.76,1.31,1.03,0.00,0.00,0.00,3.29, 0.00
Roman:R43_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial,12.19,0.00,22. 20,21.83,39.45,3.15,0.45,0.00,0.00,0.08,0.65,0.00, 0.00
Roman:R436_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial,17.76,5.07,20 .41,19.03,28.20,7.18,0.12,0.98,0.00,0.55,0.69,0.00 ,0.00
Roman:R44_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial,14.45,0.00,23. 48,18.04,38.86,5.16,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00, 0.00
Roman:R45_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial,12.66,2.53,24. 25,10.61,36.68,8.16,0.00,1.14,0.00,0.00,1.40,1.69, 0.89
Roman:R47_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial,17.98,5.83,21. 98,16.85,28.76,6.43,0.00,0.00,0.29,0.72,0.51,0.64, 0.00
Roman:R49_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial,16.25,8.08,21. 47,16.31,31.17,4.53,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.20,1.31,0.53, 0.15
Roman:R50_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial,12.80,5.92,19. 69,18.96,31.66,8.21,1.77,0.13,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00, 0.87
Roman:R51_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial,20.47,1.28,20. 11,15.05,34.89,5.56,0.00,0.17,0.00,0.59,1.88,0.00, 0.00
Roman:R66_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial,7.81,1.07,23.5 7,24.26,37.48,4.96,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.85,0.00,0 .00
Roman:R67_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial,1.11,0.88,12.1 2,32.70,36.78,9.27,3.73,0.37,0.00,0.32,0.39,1.90,0 .44
Roman:R68_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial,2.31,0.00,13.7 9,30.08,39.44,10.13,3.04,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,1.07, 0.14
Roman:R69_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial,12.48,4.41,24. 55,22.98,33.70,0.54,0.00,0.59,0.00,0.50,0.25,0.00, 0.00
Roman:R70_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial,3.21,2.28,19.3 4,21.39,41.91,10.30,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.19,0.00,1.38, 0.00
Roman:R71_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial,6.09,0.06,20.3 3,24.54,44.64,3.40,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.94,0.00,0 .00
Roman:R72_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial,10.24,0.00,22. 92,19.04,41.20,5.12,0.00,0.00,0.57,0.00,0.91,0.00, 0.00
Roman:R73_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial,11.96,1.16,19. 72,17.30,34.38,11.41,2.22,0.01,0.03,0.19,0.00,1.21 ,0.41
Roman:R75_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial,8.62,0.00,22.6 8,21.74,35.29,9.37,0.00,0.37,0.00,0.21,0.47,1.25,0 .00
Roman:R76_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial,3.62,3.30,16.7 7,23.96,38.85,10.18,1.73,0.00,0.00,0.82,0.00,0.77, 0.00
Roman:R78_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial,5.76,2.77,22.8 2,22.14,43.72,2.03,0.00,0.10,0.00,0.27,0.39,0.00,0 .00
Roman:R80_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial,15.29,0.52,23. 55,5.43,37.60,11.68,0.00,0.20,0.00,0.00,0.26,4.42, 1.06
Roman:R81_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial,11.54,2.43,22. 21,17.14,39.17,4.79,1.98,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.74,0.00, 0.00
Roman:R835_Marche_Roman_Imperial,17.48,7.33,22.76, 15.83,28.17,4.29,2.11,0.00,0.00,0.18,0.49,0.00,1.3 7
Roman:R836_Marche_Roman_Imperial,17.90,4.35,25.43, 19.62,29.98,1.61,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.28,0.83,0.00,0.0 0
Latin:R850_Lazio_Rome_Italy_Iron_Age,11.28,5.60,21 .22,17.29,32.58,9.69,0.00,0.86,1.06,0.00,0.00,0.42 ,0.00
Latin:R851_Lazio_Rome_Iron_Age_Latini,34.22,14.60, 34.26,1.01,15.44,0.30,0.00,0.00,0.18,0.00,0.00,0.0 0,0.00



Distance to: CreodaMum
2.91775599 Anglo-Saxon:I0774_England_Saxon.SG_1483_ybp
3.78011905 Celtic_Briton:3DT16_England_Roman.SG_1750_ybp
4.65449245 Gaulish:France_IA_BES1248
4.75883389 Anglo-Saxon:I0161_England_Saxon.SG_1165_ybp
5.04195399 Celtic_Briton:I0789_England_IA.SG_2155_ybp
5.12127914 Celtic_Briton:M1489_England_IA.SG_2035_ybp
5.17997104 Celtic_Briton:I0156_England_IA.SG_2017_ybp
5.42766064 Anglo-Saxon:I0777_England_Saxon.SG_1478_ybp
5.50921047 Celtic_Briton:6DT22_England_Roman.SG_1750_ybp
5.81655396 Celtic_Briton:Hinxton_4_Cambridgshire_UK_2000_year s_M_R_DF25_H1ag1_
5.84396270 Norse:vik_grt035_Sweden_Viking.SG_996_ybp
6.24626288 Celtic_Briton:6DT3_England_Roman.SG_1750_ybp
6.34759009 Celtic_Briton:6DT23_England_Roman.SG_1750_ybp
6.36259381 Celtic_Briton:6DT21_England_Roman.SG_1750_ybp
7.00166409 Celtic_Briton:I0160_England_IA.SG_1995_ybp
7.14091731 Norse:vik_stg021_Sweden_Viking.SG_924_ybp
7.56859961 Celtic_Briton:6DT18_England_Roman.SG_1750_ybp
7.73305244 Gaulish:France_IA_NOR3-6
7.94537601 Gaulish:France_IA_COL11
8.32953780 Celtic_Briton:Hinxton_5_Cambridgshire_UK_1300_year s_F_H2a2a1_
8.39615984 Anglo-Saxon:I0159_England_Saxon.SG_1247_ybp
8.67458356 Anglo-Saxon:I0157_England_Saxon.SG_1232_ybp
8.71024684 Norse:vik_nuf002_Sweden_Viking.SG_900_ybp
9.38755027 Gaulish:France_IA_ERS1164
9.68819385 Norse:stg021_Sigtuna_

Target: CreodaMum
Distance: 0.8595% / 0.85948905 | ADC: 0.25x
59.6 Celtic_Briton
40.4 Anglo-Saxon


Target: CreodaMum
Distance: 0.5189% / 0.51891530
47.6 Celtic_Briton
26.4 Anglo-Saxon
11.2 Norse
8.4 Gaulish
3.8 Roman
2.6 Latin


Gaulish:France_IA_ATT26,43.25,20.56,23.86,1.11,4.8 4,0,4.11,0,0,0,0.02,0.55,1.71
Gaulish:France_IA_BES1248,50.85,23.52,14.17,4.41,1 .84,0,1.02,0.85,0.65,1.93,0,0,0.76
Gaulish:France_IA_BFM265,50.23,18.91,16.29,3.46,9. 55,0.25,0.21,0,0,0.42,0.35,0.34,0
Gaulish:France_IA_COL11,46.34,25.76,16.72,3.7,0,0, 5.86,0,0,0,0,0,1.63
Gaulish:France_IA_COL153A,41.26,20.62,18.22,0,16.6 7,3.22,0,0,0,0,0,0,0
Gaulish:France_IA_COL153i,42.21,16.69,22.85,6.74,4 .15,0.03,0,0,1.68,0,3.73,1.92,0
Gaulish:France_IA_ERS1164,43.93,20.07,18.31,6.75,4 .79,0.2,0.96,0.84,2.7,0,0.11,0,1.32
Gaulish:France_IA_ERS86,37.1,22.42,26.11,2.55,7.85 ,1.32,0,0,0,0.15,0.98,0.76,0.75
Gaulish:France_IA_ERS88,37.83,12.85,19.92,3.27,22. 4,2.1,0,0,0,1.23,0,0.39,0
Gaulish:France_IA_Jeb8,43.92,15.69,26.17,0.18,7.86 ,0.73,0,0,0,2.59,2.86,0,0
Gaulish:France_IA_NOR2B6,35.99,20.81,21.36,1.94,15 .77,3.81,0,0,0.31,0,0,0,0
Gaulish:France_IA_NOR3-15,44.5,19.56,20.91,3.4,4.03,2.54,0,0,0.86,0.29,1. 18,2.74,0
Gaulish:France_IA_NOR3-6,44.12,24.13,17.5,7.58,0.59,2.92,1.83,0,0,0.71,0. 38,0.24,0
Gaulish:France_IA_NOR4,34.72,15.03,30.23,0,18.12,0 ,0,0,1.36,0,0.54,0,0
Gaulish:France_IA_PECH5,46.11,10.41,36.34,0,1.22,0 .97,0,1.9,0.91,2.15,0,0,0
Gaulish:France_IA_PEY53,53.92,15.17,13.26,6.82,6.2 6,2.42,0,0,0,0.82,1.32,0,0
Celtic_Briton:3DT16_England_Roman.SG_1750_ybp,50.0 3,24.97,14.29,4.90,1.77,0.00,1.31,0.00,0.00,1.38,0 .30,0.00,1.05
Celtic_Briton:6DT18_England_Roman.SG_1750_ybp,54.0 4,21.00,14.94,7.04,0.00,0.00,0.97,0.00,0.00,0.09,0 .90,0.00,1.02
Celtic_Briton:6DT21_England_Roman.SG_1750_ybp,45.4 7,25.30,11.40,11.28,1.84,0.60,0.00,0.00,1.19,1.26, 0.64,0.00,1.01
Celtic_Briton:6DT22_England_Roman.SG_1750_ybp,44.6 6,26.34,14.02,7.11,4.03,1.56,0.06,0.19,0.74,0.01,0 .54,0.64,0.09
Celtic_Briton:6DT23_England_Roman.SG_1750_ybp,53.3 7,22.19,13.20,7.43,0.58,1.18,0.00,0.00,0.26,0.00,0 .87,0.05,0.87
Celtic_Briton:6DT3_England_Roman.SG_1750_ybp,49.67 ,25.20,9.92,11.58,0.00,0.00,2.87,0.30,0.00,0.07,0. 00,0.23,0.17
Celtic_Briton:Hinxton_2_Cambridgshire_UK_1300_year s_F_H2a2b1_,59.07,23.24,8.20,6.53,0.10,0.00,1.00,0 .00,0.00,0.46,0.82,0.00,0.57
Celtic_Briton:Hinxton_3_Cambridgshire_UK_1300_year s_F_K1a4a1a2b_,57.26,20.50,8.14,9.75,0.33,0.85,0.7 5,0.00,0.00,0.49,0.00,1.36,0.57
Celtic_Briton:Hinxton_4_Cambridgshire_UK_2000_year s_M_R_DF25_H1ag1_,53.44,24.03,11.78,7.01,0.00,0.00 ,2.18,0.14,0.55,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.87
Celtic_Briton:Hinxton_5_Cambridgshire_UK_1300_year s_F_H2a2a1_,50.44,28.34,12.42,0.71,4.45,1.01,0.00, 0.94,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,1.68
Celtic_Briton:I0156_England_IA.SG_2017_ybp,52.99,2 2.67,12.87,6.81,1.70,0.12,0.63,0.00,0.00,0.70,0.71 ,0.80,0.00
Celtic_Briton:I0160_England_IA.SG_1995_ybp,53.69,2 1.30,12.06,8.23,0.00,0.00,2.86,0.00,0.82,0.00,0.00 ,0.00,1.04
Celtic_Briton:I0789_England_IA.SG_2155_ybp,46.37,2 6.95,13.66,5.05,3.86,0.11,0.00,0.70,1.72,0.87,0.66 ,0.05,0.00
Celtic_Briton:M1489_England_IA.SG_2035_ybp,49.39,2 0.75,14.93,5.56,4.22,0.00,2.62,0.46,0.19,1.46,0.00 ,0.00,0.42
Germanic:NO3423_England_Saxon.SG_1170_ybp,55.10,28 .26,4.80,5.87,0.32,1.96,0.56,0.00,0.15,0.72,1.14,1 .11,0.00
Germanic:I0157_England_Saxon.SG_1232_ybp,53.59,27. 61,7.41,6.63,0.00,0.54,1.54,0.00,0.00,0.82,0.35,1. 50,0.00
Germanic:I0159_England_Saxon.SG_1247_ybp,55.68,23. 04,9.03,5.31,2.50,0.00,2.22,0.00,0.15,0.73,0.41,0. 93,0.00
Germanic:I0161_England_Saxon.SG_1165_ybp,47.91,27. 65,13.40,4.02,3.63,0.00,1.16,0.94,0.00,0.16,0.27,0 .86,0.00
Germanic:I0769_England_Saxon.SG_1455_ybp,55.88,26. 55,6.15,7.99,0.00,0.37,0.22,0.58,0.36,0.45,0.14,0. 69,0.62
Germanic:I0773_England_Saxon.SG_1490_ybp,54.42,30. 16,6.27,5.11,0.00,0.00,2.99,0.00,0.00,0.46,0.60,0. 00,0.00
Germanic:I0774_England_Saxon.SG_1483_ybp,49.31,24. 79,10.58,7.38,3.84,0.54,2.19,0.00,0.05,0.17,1.15,0 .00,0.00
Germanic:I0777_England_Saxon.SG_1478_ybp,49.52,27. 29,12.73,3.79,1.11,2.02,2.60,0.00,0.79,0.00,0.15,0 .00,0.00
Germanic:AED106_Germany_Early_Medieval.SG_1455_ybp ,45.38,30.61,9.37,10.33,0.00,0.05,0.82,0.00,0.00,1 .56,1.13,0.05,0.70
Germanic:AED249_Germany_Early_Medieval.SG_1455_ybp ,45.91,36.06,8.53,3.83,0.00,2.62,1.36,1.26,0.42,0. 00,0.00,0.00,0.00
Germanic:Alh1_Germany_Early_Medieval.SG_1500_ybp,5 0.39,26.23,13.00,5.30,0.00,1.40,0.00,1.70,0.00,1.1 1,0.49,0.38,0.00
Germanic:Alh10_Germany_Early_Medieval.SG_1489_ybp, 50.82,27.96,8.13,4.15,4.48,1.91,0.67,0.31,0.00,1.2 9,0.29,0.00,0.00
Germanic:Alh3a_Germany_Early_Medieval.SG_1506_ybp, 42.08,29.55,6.19,8.99,8.62,0.00,0.00,0.97,2.37,1.0 8,0.16,0.00,0.00
Germanic:CL145_longobard_north_italy,53.01,27.98,7 .21,5.65,0.79,1.05,2.78,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.99,0.55,0 .00
Germanic:CL146_Longobard_,54.56,25.16,9.41,4.77,1. 52,0.92,1.25,0.00,0.63,0.55,0.40,0.83,0.00
Germanic:CL151_longobard_north_italy,55.73,27.25,6 .83,4.75,0.00,2.45,1.17,0.00,0.00,0.60,1.22,0.00,0 .00
Germanic:CL83_longobard_north_italy,50.79,24.89,12 .46,6.20,0.71,2.68,0.00,1.18,0.20,0.26,0.00,0.63,0 .00
Germanic:CL84_longobard_north_italy,51.40,26.75,12 .42,4.27,1.30,1.75,0.00,0.85,0.83,0.00,0.00,0.44,0 .00
Germanic:CL87_longobard_north_italy,48.19,22.34,15 .47,5.32,3.89,2.63,0.53,0.00,0.00,0.79,0.09,0.66,0 .09
Germanic:CL92_longobard_north_italy,48.87,28.93,9. 99,6.36,2.26,0.00,0.00,0.50,1.89,0.00,0.45,0.76,0. 00
Germanic:CL93_longobard_north_italy,49.96,27.68,9. 25,8.59,0.00,1.17,0.00,0.00,1.12,0.35,0.83,0.30,0. 75
Roman:R37_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial,40.85,15.39,33 .11,0.00,6.24,1.63,0.00,0.01,0.66,0.00,1.40,0.72,0 .00
Roman:R38_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial,1.92,0.00,18.7 1,28.11,41.51,8.68,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.45,0.34,0.00,0 .28
Roman:R39_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial,9.38,2.57,24.9 7,19.78,34.82,5.66,0.00,1.74,0.29,0.78,0.00,0.00,0 .00
Roman:R40_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial,14.72,0.00,23. 00,19.52,36.20,5.66,0.00,0.47,0.15,0.00,0.00,0.00, 0.27
Roman:R41_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial,8.70,0.00,21.4 7,17.49,39.58,7.59,0.39,1.94,0.00,0.76,0.14,1.91,0 .03
Roman:R42_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial,0.53,0.00,15.4 0,20.48,43.20,14.76,1.31,1.03,0.00,0.00,0.00,3.29, 0.00
Roman:R43_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial,12.19,0.00,22. 20,21.83,39.45,3.15,0.45,0.00,0.00,0.08,0.65,0.00, 0.00
Roman:R436_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial,17.76,5.07,20 .41,19.03,28.20,7.18,0.12,0.98,0.00,0.55,0.69,0.00 ,0.00
Roman:R44_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial,14.45,0.00,23. 48,18.04,38.86,5.16,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00, 0.00
Roman:R45_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial,12.66,2.53,24. 25,10.61,36.68,8.16,0.00,1.14,0.00,0.00,1.40,1.69, 0.89
Roman:R47_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial,17.98,5.83,21. 98,16.85,28.76,6.43,0.00,0.00,0.29,0.72,0.51,0.64, 0.00
Roman:R49_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial,16.25,8.08,21. 47,16.31,31.17,4.53,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.20,1.31,0.53, 0.15
Roman:R50_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial,12.80,5.92,19. 69,18.96,31.66,8.21,1.77,0.13,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00, 0.87
Roman:R51_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial,20.47,1.28,20. 11,15.05,34.89,5.56,0.00,0.17,0.00,0.59,1.88,0.00, 0.00
Roman:R66_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial,7.81,1.07,23.5 7,24.26,37.48,4.96,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.85,0.00,0 .00
Roman:R67_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial,1.11,0.88,12.1 2,32.70,36.78,9.27,3.73,0.37,0.00,0.32,0.39,1.90,0 .44
Roman:R68_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial,2.31,0.00,13.7 9,30.08,39.44,10.13,3.04,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,1.07, 0.14
Roman:R69_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial,12.48,4.41,24. 55,22.98,33.70,0.54,0.00,0.59,0.00,0.50,0.25,0.00, 0.00
Roman:R70_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial,3.21,2.28,19.3 4,21.39,41.91,10.30,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.19,0.00,1.38, 0.00
Roman:R71_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial,6.09,0.06,20.3 3,24.54,44.64,3.40,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.94,0.00,0 .00
Roman:R72_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial,10.24,0.00,22. 92,19.04,41.20,5.12,0.00,0.00,0.57,0.00,0.91,0.00, 0.00
Roman:R73_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial,11.96,1.16,19. 72,17.30,34.38,11.41,2.22,0.01,0.03,0.19,0.00,1.21 ,0.41
Roman:R75_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial,8.62,0.00,22.6 8,21.74,35.29,9.37,0.00,0.37,0.00,0.21,0.47,1.25,0 .00
Roman:R76_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial,3.62,3.30,16.7 7,23.96,38.85,10.18,1.73,0.00,0.00,0.82,0.00,0.77, 0.00
Roman:R78_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial,5.76,2.77,22.8 2,22.14,43.72,2.03,0.00,0.10,0.00,0.27,0.39,0.00,0 .00
Roman:R80_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial,15.29,0.52,23. 55,5.43,37.60,11.68,0.00,0.20,0.00,0.00,0.26,4.42, 1.06
Roman:R81_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial,11.54,2.43,22. 21,17.14,39.17,4.79,1.98,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.74,0.00, 0.00
Roman:R835_Marche_Roman_Imperial,17.48,7.33,22.76, 15.83,28.17,4.29,2.11,0.00,0.00,0.18,0.49,0.00,1.3 7
Roman:R836_Marche_Roman_Imperial,17.90,4.35,25.43, 19.62,29.98,1.61,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.28,0.83,0.00,0.0 0



Distance to: CreodaMum
2.91775599 Germanic:I0774_England_Saxon.SG_1483_ybp
3.78011905 Celtic_Briton:3DT16_England_Roman.SG_1750_ybp
4.65449245 Gaulish:France_IA_BES1248
4.75883389 Germanic:I0161_England_Saxon.SG_1165_ybp
4.77611767 Germanic:CL83_longobard_north_italy
5.04195399 Celtic_Briton:I0789_England_IA.SG_2155_ybp
5.12127914 Celtic_Briton:M1489_England_IA.SG_2035_ybp
5.15242661 Germanic:Alh1_Germany_Early_Medieval.SG_1500_ybp
5.17997104 Celtic_Briton:I0156_England_IA.SG_2017_ybp
5.22179088 Germanic:CL87_longobard_north_italy
5.42766064 Germanic:I0777_England_Saxon.SG_1478_ybp
5.50921047 Celtic_Briton:6DT22_England_Roman.SG_1750_ybp
5.60608598 Germanic:CL84_longobard_north_italy
5.81655396 Celtic_Briton:Hinxton_4_Cambridgshire_UK_2000_year s_M_R_DF25_H1ag1_
6.06600363 Germanic:CL92_longobard_north_italy
6.24626288 Celtic_Briton:6DT3_England_Roman.SG_1750_ybp
6.34759009 Celtic_Briton:6DT23_England_Roman.SG_1750_ybp
6.36259381 Celtic_Briton:6DT21_England_Roman.SG_1750_ybp
6.59962878 Germanic:CL93_longobard_north_italy
7.00166409 Celtic_Briton:I0160_England_IA.SG_1995_ybp
7.50214636 Germanic:Alh10_Germany_Early_Medieval.SG_1489_ybp
7.56433077 Germanic:CL146_Longobard_
7.56859961 Celtic_Briton:6DT18_England_Roman.SG_1750_ybp
7.73305244 Gaulish:France_IA_NOR3-6
7.94537601 Gaulish:France_IA_COL11

Target: CreodaMum
Distance: 0.5525% / 0.55245708
41.8 Germanic
40.8 Celtic_Briton
14.4 Gaulish
3.0 Roman

Target: CreodaMum
Distance: 0.8595% / 0.85948905 | ADC: 0.25x
59.6 Celtic_Briton
40.4 Germanic

Folcwalding
08-11-2020, 07:24 PM
I thought it was long proven that English people have more Paleolithic than Germanic admixture (the former misguidedly called 'Celtic'), and are much closer to other British Islanders than to Dutch and Germans?

I guess the crucial point is that throughout NW Europe we see two main types of genetic profiles.

I based this on the hunter vs. farmer vs herder model of Davidski (G25 unscaled).

'West' profile is highly Herder/Steppe about 58-59% in this model, Hunter is about 8% and the Farmer is 32-33%.

'East' profile highly Hunter about 12%, Farmer about 32-33% and the Herder is max 57%.


In fact we stand in this respect on the shoulders of our LNBA ancestors, in that periode fused 'highly' Steppe Bell Beakers (rooted in Single Grave Culture) in Denmark, Northern Germany and North Dutch and Battle Axe in Sweden with neolithic funnel beaker groups in Scandinavia and the Northern Plain and even with some old HG groups.

The neolithic/ funnel beaker and annex groups have different levels of hunter vs farmer:
https://www.mupload.nl/img/grugfo44w9.07.23.png

The Bell Beakers and Battle Axe people have about 2/3 herder/steppe:
https://www.mupload.nl/img/e1jany.10.01.png

After the grand mix in LNBA, we see that England BA and IA in this respect doen't differ much form the Anglo-Saxons!
https://www.mupload.nl/img/8yk6bk0.18.16.png


IMO the reason the Anglo-Saxon are typical of the high Steppe 'West' profile as the Danes or Irish:
https://www.mupload.nl/img/a22ymr.19.52.png

But were there are high HG influences like the TRB in Northern Germany/ North Dutch or otherwise HG groups (Sweden/ Poland) we see the 'East' profile:
https://www.mupload.nl/img/1ipj6epq7f.22.13.png

RyoHazuki
08-20-2020, 03:50 AM
Gaulish:France_IA_ATT26,43.25,20.56,23.86,1.11,4.8 4,0,4.11,0,0,0,0.02,0.55,1.71
Gaulish:France_IA_BES1248,50.85,23.52,14.17,4.41,1 .84,0,1.02,0.85,0.65,1.93,0,0,0.76
Gaulish:France_IA_BFM265,50.23,18.91,16.29,3.46,9. 55,0.25,0.21,0,0,0.42,0.35,0.34,0
Gaulish:France_IA_COL11,46.34,25.76,16.72,3.7,0,0, 5.86,0,0,0,0,0,1.63
Gaulish:France_IA_COL153A,41.26,20.62,18.22,0,16.6 7,3.22,0,0,0,0,0,0,0
Gaulish:France_IA_COL153i,42.21,16.69,22.85,6.74,4 .15,0.03,0,0,1.68,0,3.73,1.92,0
Gaulish:France_IA_ERS1164,43.93,20.07,18.31,6.75,4 .79,0.2,0.96,0.84,2.7,0,0.11,0,1.32
Gaulish:France_IA_ERS86,37.1,22.42,26.11,2.55,7.85 ,1.32,0,0,0,0.15,0.98,0.76,0.75
Gaulish:France_IA_ERS88,37.83,12.85,19.92,3.27,22. 4,2.1,0,0,0,1.23,0,0.39,0
Gaulish:France_IA_Jeb8,43.92,15.69,26.17,0.18,7.86 ,0.73,0,0,0,2.59,2.86,0,0
Gaulish:France_IA_NOR2B6,35.99,20.81,21.36,1.94,15 .77,3.81,0,0,0.31,0,0,0,0
Gaulish:France_IA_NOR3-15,44.5,19.56,20.91,3.4,4.03,2.54,0,0,0.86,0.29,1. 18,2.74,0
Gaulish:France_IA_NOR3-6,44.12,24.13,17.5,7.58,0.59,2.92,1.83,0,0,0.71,0. 38,0.24,0
Gaulish:France_IA_NOR4,34.72,15.03,30.23,0,18.12,0 ,0,0,1.36,0,0.54,0,0
Gaulish:France_IA_PECH5,46.11,10.41,36.34,0,1.22,0 .97,0,1.9,0.91,2.15,0,0,0
Gaulish:France_IA_PEY53,53.92,15.17,13.26,6.82,6.2 6,2.42,0,0,0,0.82,1.32,0,0
Celtic_Briton:3DT16_England_Roman.SG_1750_ybp,50.0 3,24.97,14.29,4.90,1.77,0.00,1.31,0.00,0.00,1.38,0 .30,0.00,1.05
Celtic_Briton:6DT18_England_Roman.SG_1750_ybp,54.0 4,21.00,14.94,7.04,0.00,0.00,0.97,0.00,0.00,0.09,0 .90,0.00,1.02
Celtic_Briton:6DT21_England_Roman.SG_1750_ybp,45.4 7,25.30,11.40,11.28,1.84,0.60,0.00,0.00,1.19,1.26, 0.64,0.00,1.01
Celtic_Briton:6DT22_England_Roman.SG_1750_ybp,44.6 6,26.34,14.02,7.11,4.03,1.56,0.06,0.19,0.74,0.01,0 .54,0.64,0.09
Celtic_Briton:6DT23_England_Roman.SG_1750_ybp,53.3 7,22.19,13.20,7.43,0.58,1.18,0.00,0.00,0.26,0.00,0 .87,0.05,0.87
Celtic_Briton:6DT3_England_Roman.SG_1750_ybp,49.67 ,25.20,9.92,11.58,0.00,0.00,2.87,0.30,0.00,0.07,0. 00,0.23,0.17
Celtic_Briton:Hinxton_2_Cambridgshire_UK_1300_year s_F_H2a2b1_,59.07,23.24,8.20,6.53,0.10,0.00,1.00,0 .00,0.00,0.46,0.82,0.00,0.57
Celtic_Briton:Hinxton_3_Cambridgshire_UK_1300_year s_F_K1a4a1a2b_,57.26,20.50,8.14,9.75,0.33,0.85,0.7 5,0.00,0.00,0.49,0.00,1.36,0.57
Celtic_Briton:Hinxton_4_Cambridgshire_UK_2000_year s_M_R_DF25_H1ag1_,53.44,24.03,11.78,7.01,0.00,0.00 ,2.18,0.14,0.55,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.87
Celtic_Briton:Hinxton_5_Cambridgshire_UK_1300_year s_F_H2a2a1_,50.44,28.34,12.42,0.71,4.45,1.01,0.00, 0.94,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,1.68
Celtic_Briton:I0156_England_IA.SG_2017_ybp,52.99,2 2.67,12.87,6.81,1.70,0.12,0.63,0.00,0.00,0.70,0.71 ,0.80,0.00
Celtic_Briton:I0160_England_IA.SG_1995_ybp,53.69,2 1.30,12.06,8.23,0.00,0.00,2.86,0.00,0.82,0.00,0.00 ,0.00,1.04
Celtic_Briton:I0789_England_IA.SG_2155_ybp,46.37,2 6.95,13.66,5.05,3.86,0.11,0.00,0.70,1.72,0.87,0.66 ,0.05,0.00
Celtic_Briton:M1489_England_IA.SG_2035_ybp,49.39,2 0.75,14.93,5.56,4.22,0.00,2.62,0.46,0.19,1.46,0.00 ,0.00,0.42
Anglo-Saxon:NO3423_England_Saxon.SG_1170_ybp,55.10,28.26 ,4.80,5.87,0.32,1.96,0.56,0.00,0.15,0.72,1.14,1.11 ,0.00
Anglo-Saxon:I0157_England_Saxon.SG_1232_ybp,53.59,27.61, 7.41,6.63,0.00,0.54,1.54,0.00,0.00,0.82,0.35,1.50, 0.00
Anglo-Saxon:I0159_England_Saxon.SG_1247_ybp,55.68,23.04, 9.03,5.31,2.50,0.00,2.22,0.00,0.15,0.73,0.41,0.93, 0.00
Anglo-Saxon:I0161_England_Saxon.SG_1165_ybp,47.91,27.65, 13.40,4.02,3.63,0.00,1.16,0.94,0.00,0.16,0.27,0.86 ,0.00
Anglo-Saxon:I0769_England_Saxon.SG_1455_ybp,55.88,26.55, 6.15,7.99,0.00,0.37,0.22,0.58,0.36,0.45,0.14,0.69, 0.62
Anglo-Saxon:I0773_England_Saxon.SG_1490_ybp,54.42,30.16, 6.27,5.11,0.00,0.00,2.99,0.00,0.00,0.46,0.60,0.00, 0.00
Anglo-Saxon:I0774_England_Saxon.SG_1483_ybp,49.31,24.79, 10.58,7.38,3.84,0.54,2.19,0.00,0.05,0.17,1.15,0.00 ,0.00
Anglo-Saxon:I0777_England_Saxon.SG_1478_ybp,49.52,27.29, 12.73,3.79,1.11,2.02,2.60,0.00,0.79,0.00,0.15,0.00 ,0.00
Norse:84001_Sigtuna_10_12_century_,53.33,32.90,8.0 0,4.22,0.23,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,1.29,0.00,0.00,0.0 0
Norse:84035_Sigtuna_10_12_century_f_h2a3a_,56.27,2 8.86,13.50,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00 ,0.00,1.37
Norse:vik_84001_Sweden_Viking.SG_989_ybp,48.64,32. 31,8.02,4.27,3.03,0.00,0.00,0.00,1.51,1.62,0.46,0. 00,0.14
Norse:vik_97002_Sweden_Viking.SG_900_ybp,43.18,30. 18,10.57,12.32,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.61,0.00,0.10,2.53, 0.51,0.00
Norse:vik_grt035_Sweden_Viking.SG_996_ybp,53.09,24 .00,12.10,6.14,0.74,1.43,0.00,0.00,0.51,1.16,0.00, 0.83,0.00
Norse:vik_kls001_Sweden_Viking.SG_900_ybp,49.93,31 .75,6.98,0.05,4.03,1.05,0.71,0.04,2.75,0.00,1.08,0 .78,0.85
Norse:vik_nuf002_Sweden_Viking.SG_900_ybp,46.55,27 .91,9.45,2.83,7.96,0.75,1.16,0.36,0.00,0.82,1.04,1 .16,0.00
Norse:vik_stg021_Sweden_Viking.SG_924_ybp,46.77,30 .03,10.61,4.43,1.83,0.06,2.26,1.24,0.54,0.73,0.18, 1.18,0.16
Norse:stg021_Sigtuna_,50.43,32.96,11.10,4.19,0.52, 0.00,0.24,0.27,0.00,0.23,0.00,0.00,0.00
Roman:R37_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial,40.85,15.39,33 .11,0.00,6.24,1.63,0.00,0.01,0.66,0.00,1.40,0.72,0 .00
Roman:R38_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial,1.92,0.00,18.7 1,28.11,41.51,8.68,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.45,0.34,0.00,0 .28
Roman:R39_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial,9.38,2.57,24.9 7,19.78,34.82,5.66,0.00,1.74,0.29,0.78,0.00,0.00,0 .00
Roman:R40_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial,14.72,0.00,23. 00,19.52,36.20,5.66,0.00,0.47,0.15,0.00,0.00,0.00, 0.27
Roman:R41_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial,8.70,0.00,21.4 7,17.49,39.58,7.59,0.39,1.94,0.00,0.76,0.14,1.91,0 .03
Roman:R42_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial,0.53,0.00,15.4 0,20.48,43.20,14.76,1.31,1.03,0.00,0.00,0.00,3.29, 0.00
Roman:R43_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial,12.19,0.00,22. 20,21.83,39.45,3.15,0.45,0.00,0.00,0.08,0.65,0.00, 0.00
Roman:R436_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial,17.76,5.07,20 .41,19.03,28.20,7.18,0.12,0.98,0.00,0.55,0.69,0.00 ,0.00
Roman:R44_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial,14.45,0.00,23. 48,18.04,38.86,5.16,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00, 0.00
Roman:R45_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial,12.66,2.53,24. 25,10.61,36.68,8.16,0.00,1.14,0.00,0.00,1.40,1.69, 0.89
Roman:R47_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial,17.98,5.83,21. 98,16.85,28.76,6.43,0.00,0.00,0.29,0.72,0.51,0.64, 0.00
Roman:R49_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial,16.25,8.08,21. 47,16.31,31.17,4.53,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.20,1.31,0.53, 0.15
Roman:R50_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial,12.80,5.92,19. 69,18.96,31.66,8.21,1.77,0.13,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00, 0.87
Roman:R51_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial,20.47,1.28,20. 11,15.05,34.89,5.56,0.00,0.17,0.00,0.59,1.88,0.00, 0.00
Roman:R66_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial,7.81,1.07,23.5 7,24.26,37.48,4.96,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.85,0.00,0 .00
Roman:R67_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial,1.11,0.88,12.1 2,32.70,36.78,9.27,3.73,0.37,0.00,0.32,0.39,1.90,0 .44
Roman:R68_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial,2.31,0.00,13.7 9,30.08,39.44,10.13,3.04,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,1.07, 0.14
Roman:R69_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial,12.48,4.41,24. 55,22.98,33.70,0.54,0.00,0.59,0.00,0.50,0.25,0.00, 0.00
Roman:R70_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial,3.21,2.28,19.3 4,21.39,41.91,10.30,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.19,0.00,1.38, 0.00
Roman:R71_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial,6.09,0.06,20.3 3,24.54,44.64,3.40,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.94,0.00,0 .00
Roman:R72_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial,10.24,0.00,22. 92,19.04,41.20,5.12,0.00,0.00,0.57,0.00,0.91,0.00, 0.00
Roman:R73_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial,11.96,1.16,19. 72,17.30,34.38,11.41,2.22,0.01,0.03,0.19,0.00,1.21 ,0.41
Roman:R75_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial,8.62,0.00,22.6 8,21.74,35.29,9.37,0.00,0.37,0.00,0.21,0.47,1.25,0 .00
Roman:R76_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial,3.62,3.30,16.7 7,23.96,38.85,10.18,1.73,0.00,0.00,0.82,0.00,0.77, 0.00
Roman:R78_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial,5.76,2.77,22.8 2,22.14,43.72,2.03,0.00,0.10,0.00,0.27,0.39,0.00,0 .00
Roman:R80_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial,15.29,0.52,23. 55,5.43,37.60,11.68,0.00,0.20,0.00,0.00,0.26,4.42, 1.06
Roman:R81_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial,11.54,2.43,22. 21,17.14,39.17,4.79,1.98,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.74,0.00, 0.00
Roman:R835_Marche_Roman_Imperial,17.48,7.33,22.76, 15.83,28.17,4.29,2.11,0.00,0.00,0.18,0.49,0.00,1.3 7
Roman:R836_Marche_Roman_Imperial,17.90,4.35,25.43, 19.62,29.98,1.61,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.28,0.83,0.00,0.0 0
Latin:R850_Lazio_Rome_Italy_Iron_Age,11.28,5.60,21 .22,17.29,32.58,9.69,0.00,0.86,1.06,0.00,0.00,0.42 ,0.00
Latin:R851_Lazio_Rome_Iron_Age_Latini,34.22,14.60, 34.26,1.01,15.44,0.30,0.00,0.00,0.18,0.00,0.00,0.0 0,0.00



Distance to: CreodaMum
2.91775599 Anglo-Saxon:I0774_England_Saxon.SG_1483_ybp
3.78011905 Celtic_Briton:3DT16_England_Roman.SG_1750_ybp
4.65449245 Gaulish:France_IA_BES1248
4.75883389 Anglo-Saxon:I0161_England_Saxon.SG_1165_ybp
5.04195399 Celtic_Briton:I0789_England_IA.SG_2155_ybp
5.12127914 Celtic_Briton:M1489_England_IA.SG_2035_ybp
5.17997104 Celtic_Briton:I0156_England_IA.SG_2017_ybp
5.42766064 Anglo-Saxon:I0777_England_Saxon.SG_1478_ybp
5.50921047 Celtic_Briton:6DT22_England_Roman.SG_1750_ybp
5.81655396 Celtic_Briton:Hinxton_4_Cambridgshire_UK_2000_year s_M_R_DF25_H1ag1_
5.84396270 Norse:vik_grt035_Sweden_Viking.SG_996_ybp
6.24626288 Celtic_Briton:6DT3_England_Roman.SG_1750_ybp
6.34759009 Celtic_Briton:6DT23_England_Roman.SG_1750_ybp
6.36259381 Celtic_Briton:6DT21_England_Roman.SG_1750_ybp
7.00166409 Celtic_Briton:I0160_England_IA.SG_1995_ybp
7.14091731 Norse:vik_stg021_Sweden_Viking.SG_924_ybp
7.56859961 Celtic_Briton:6DT18_England_Roman.SG_1750_ybp
7.73305244 Gaulish:France_IA_NOR3-6
7.94537601 Gaulish:France_IA_COL11
8.32953780 Celtic_Briton:Hinxton_5_Cambridgshire_UK_1300_year s_F_H2a2a1_
8.39615984 Anglo-Saxon:I0159_England_Saxon.SG_1247_ybp
8.67458356 Anglo-Saxon:I0157_England_Saxon.SG_1232_ybp
8.71024684 Norse:vik_nuf002_Sweden_Viking.SG_900_ybp
9.38755027 Gaulish:France_IA_ERS1164
9.68819385 Norse:stg021_Sigtuna_

Target: CreodaMum
Distance: 0.8595% / 0.85948905 | ADC: 0.25x
59.6 Celtic_Briton
40.4 Anglo-Saxon


Target: CreodaMum
Distance: 0.5189% / 0.51891530
47.6 Celtic_Briton
26.4 Anglo-Saxon
11.2 Norse
8.4 Gaulish
3.8 Roman
2.6 Latin


Gaulish:France_IA_ATT26,43.25,20.56,23.86,1.11,4.8 4,0,4.11,0,0,0,0.02,0.55,1.71
Gaulish:France_IA_BES1248,50.85,23.52,14.17,4.41,1 .84,0,1.02,0.85,0.65,1.93,0,0,0.76
Gaulish:France_IA_BFM265,50.23,18.91,16.29,3.46,9. 55,0.25,0.21,0,0,0.42,0.35,0.34,0
Gaulish:France_IA_COL11,46.34,25.76,16.72,3.7,0,0, 5.86,0,0,0,0,0,1.63
Gaulish:France_IA_COL153A,41.26,20.62,18.22,0,16.6 7,3.22,0,0,0,0,0,0,0
Gaulish:France_IA_COL153i,42.21,16.69,22.85,6.74,4 .15,0.03,0,0,1.68,0,3.73,1.92,0
Gaulish:France_IA_ERS1164,43.93,20.07,18.31,6.75,4 .79,0.2,0.96,0.84,2.7,0,0.11,0,1.32
Gaulish:France_IA_ERS86,37.1,22.42,26.11,2.55,7.85 ,1.32,0,0,0,0.15,0.98,0.76,0.75
Gaulish:France_IA_ERS88,37.83,12.85,19.92,3.27,22. 4,2.1,0,0,0,1.23,0,0.39,0
Gaulish:France_IA_Jeb8,43.92,15.69,26.17,0.18,7.86 ,0.73,0,0,0,2.59,2.86,0,0
Gaulish:France_IA_NOR2B6,35.99,20.81,21.36,1.94,15 .77,3.81,0,0,0.31,0,0,0,0
Gaulish:France_IA_NOR3-15,44.5,19.56,20.91,3.4,4.03,2.54,0,0,0.86,0.29,1. 18,2.74,0
Gaulish:France_IA_NOR3-6,44.12,24.13,17.5,7.58,0.59,2.92,1.83,0,0,0.71,0. 38,0.24,0
Gaulish:France_IA_NOR4,34.72,15.03,30.23,0,18.12,0 ,0,0,1.36,0,0.54,0,0
Gaulish:France_IA_PECH5,46.11,10.41,36.34,0,1.22,0 .97,0,1.9,0.91,2.15,0,0,0
Gaulish:France_IA_PEY53,53.92,15.17,13.26,6.82,6.2 6,2.42,0,0,0,0.82,1.32,0,0
Celtic_Briton:3DT16_England_Roman.SG_1750_ybp,50.0 3,24.97,14.29,4.90,1.77,0.00,1.31,0.00,0.00,1.38,0 .30,0.00,1.05
Celtic_Briton:6DT18_England_Roman.SG_1750_ybp,54.0 4,21.00,14.94,7.04,0.00,0.00,0.97,0.00,0.00,0.09,0 .90,0.00,1.02
Celtic_Briton:6DT21_England_Roman.SG_1750_ybp,45.4 7,25.30,11.40,11.28,1.84,0.60,0.00,0.00,1.19,1.26, 0.64,0.00,1.01
Celtic_Briton:6DT22_England_Roman.SG_1750_ybp,44.6 6,26.34,14.02,7.11,4.03,1.56,0.06,0.19,0.74,0.01,0 .54,0.64,0.09
Celtic_Briton:6DT23_England_Roman.SG_1750_ybp,53.3 7,22.19,13.20,7.43,0.58,1.18,0.00,0.00,0.26,0.00,0 .87,0.05,0.87
Celtic_Briton:6DT3_England_Roman.SG_1750_ybp,49.67 ,25.20,9.92,11.58,0.00,0.00,2.87,0.30,0.00,0.07,0. 00,0.23,0.17
Celtic_Briton:Hinxton_2_Cambridgshire_UK_1300_year s_F_H2a2b1_,59.07,23.24,8.20,6.53,0.10,0.00,1.00,0 .00,0.00,0.46,0.82,0.00,0.57
Celtic_Briton:Hinxton_3_Cambridgshire_UK_1300_year s_F_K1a4a1a2b_,57.26,20.50,8.14,9.75,0.33,0.85,0.7 5,0.00,0.00,0.49,0.00,1.36,0.57
Celtic_Briton:Hinxton_4_Cambridgshire_UK_2000_year s_M_R_DF25_H1ag1_,53.44,24.03,11.78,7.01,0.00,0.00 ,2.18,0.14,0.55,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.87
Celtic_Briton:Hinxton_5_Cambridgshire_UK_1300_year s_F_H2a2a1_,50.44,28.34,12.42,0.71,4.45,1.01,0.00, 0.94,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,1.68
Celtic_Briton:I0156_England_IA.SG_2017_ybp,52.99,2 2.67,12.87,6.81,1.70,0.12,0.63,0.00,0.00,0.70,0.71 ,0.80,0.00
Celtic_Briton:I0160_England_IA.SG_1995_ybp,53.69,2 1.30,12.06,8.23,0.00,0.00,2.86,0.00,0.82,0.00,0.00 ,0.00,1.04
Celtic_Briton:I0789_England_IA.SG_2155_ybp,46.37,2 6.95,13.66,5.05,3.86,0.11,0.00,0.70,1.72,0.87,0.66 ,0.05,0.00
Celtic_Briton:M1489_England_IA.SG_2035_ybp,49.39,2 0.75,14.93,5.56,4.22,0.00,2.62,0.46,0.19,1.46,0.00 ,0.00,0.42
Germanic:NO3423_England_Saxon.SG_1170_ybp,55.10,28 .26,4.80,5.87,0.32,1.96,0.56,0.00,0.15,0.72,1.14,1 .11,0.00
Germanic:I0157_England_Saxon.SG_1232_ybp,53.59,27. 61,7.41,6.63,0.00,0.54,1.54,0.00,0.00,0.82,0.35,1. 50,0.00
Germanic:I0159_England_Saxon.SG_1247_ybp,55.68,23. 04,9.03,5.31,2.50,0.00,2.22,0.00,0.15,0.73,0.41,0. 93,0.00
Germanic:I0161_England_Saxon.SG_1165_ybp,47.91,27. 65,13.40,4.02,3.63,0.00,1.16,0.94,0.00,0.16,0.27,0 .86,0.00
Germanic:I0769_England_Saxon.SG_1455_ybp,55.88,26. 55,6.15,7.99,0.00,0.37,0.22,0.58,0.36,0.45,0.14,0. 69,0.62
Germanic:I0773_England_Saxon.SG_1490_ybp,54.42,30. 16,6.27,5.11,0.00,0.00,2.99,0.00,0.00,0.46,0.60,0. 00,0.00
Germanic:I0774_England_Saxon.SG_1483_ybp,49.31,24. 79,10.58,7.38,3.84,0.54,2.19,0.00,0.05,0.17,1.15,0 .00,0.00
Germanic:I0777_England_Saxon.SG_1478_ybp,49.52,27. 29,12.73,3.79,1.11,2.02,2.60,0.00,0.79,0.00,0.15,0 .00,0.00
Germanic:AED106_Germany_Early_Medieval.SG_1455_ybp ,45.38,30.61,9.37,10.33,0.00,0.05,0.82,0.00,0.00,1 .56,1.13,0.05,0.70
Germanic:AED249_Germany_Early_Medieval.SG_1455_ybp ,45.91,36.06,8.53,3.83,0.00,2.62,1.36,1.26,0.42,0. 00,0.00,0.00,0.00
Germanic:Alh1_Germany_Early_Medieval.SG_1500_ybp,5 0.39,26.23,13.00,5.30,0.00,1.40,0.00,1.70,0.00,1.1 1,0.49,0.38,0.00
Germanic:Alh10_Germany_Early_Medieval.SG_1489_ybp, 50.82,27.96,8.13,4.15,4.48,1.91,0.67,0.31,0.00,1.2 9,0.29,0.00,0.00
Germanic:Alh3a_Germany_Early_Medieval.SG_1506_ybp, 42.08,29.55,6.19,8.99,8.62,0.00,0.00,0.97,2.37,1.0 8,0.16,0.00,0.00
Germanic:CL145_longobard_north_italy,53.01,27.98,7 .21,5.65,0.79,1.05,2.78,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.99,0.55,0 .00
Germanic:CL146_Longobard_,54.56,25.16,9.41,4.77,1. 52,0.92,1.25,0.00,0.63,0.55,0.40,0.83,0.00
Germanic:CL151_longobard_north_italy,55.73,27.25,6 .83,4.75,0.00,2.45,1.17,0.00,0.00,0.60,1.22,0.00,0 .00
Germanic:CL83_longobard_north_italy,50.79,24.89,12 .46,6.20,0.71,2.68,0.00,1.18,0.20,0.26,0.00,0.63,0 .00
Germanic:CL84_longobard_north_italy,51.40,26.75,12 .42,4.27,1.30,1.75,0.00,0.85,0.83,0.00,0.00,0.44,0 .00
Germanic:CL87_longobard_north_italy,48.19,22.34,15 .47,5.32,3.89,2.63,0.53,0.00,0.00,0.79,0.09,0.66,0 .09
Germanic:CL92_longobard_north_italy,48.87,28.93,9. 99,6.36,2.26,0.00,0.00,0.50,1.89,0.00,0.45,0.76,0. 00
Germanic:CL93_longobard_north_italy,49.96,27.68,9. 25,8.59,0.00,1.17,0.00,0.00,1.12,0.35,0.83,0.30,0. 75
Roman:R37_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial,40.85,15.39,33 .11,0.00,6.24,1.63,0.00,0.01,0.66,0.00,1.40,0.72,0 .00
Roman:R38_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial,1.92,0.00,18.7 1,28.11,41.51,8.68,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.45,0.34,0.00,0 .28
Roman:R39_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial,9.38,2.57,24.9 7,19.78,34.82,5.66,0.00,1.74,0.29,0.78,0.00,0.00,0 .00
Roman:R40_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial,14.72,0.00,23. 00,19.52,36.20,5.66,0.00,0.47,0.15,0.00,0.00,0.00, 0.27
Roman:R41_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial,8.70,0.00,21.4 7,17.49,39.58,7.59,0.39,1.94,0.00,0.76,0.14,1.91,0 .03
Roman:R42_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial,0.53,0.00,15.4 0,20.48,43.20,14.76,1.31,1.03,0.00,0.00,0.00,3.29, 0.00
Roman:R43_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial,12.19,0.00,22. 20,21.83,39.45,3.15,0.45,0.00,0.00,0.08,0.65,0.00, 0.00
Roman:R436_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial,17.76,5.07,20 .41,19.03,28.20,7.18,0.12,0.98,0.00,0.55,0.69,0.00 ,0.00
Roman:R44_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial,14.45,0.00,23. 48,18.04,38.86,5.16,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00, 0.00
Roman:R45_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial,12.66,2.53,24. 25,10.61,36.68,8.16,0.00,1.14,0.00,0.00,1.40,1.69, 0.89
Roman:R47_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial,17.98,5.83,21. 98,16.85,28.76,6.43,0.00,0.00,0.29,0.72,0.51,0.64, 0.00
Roman:R49_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial,16.25,8.08,21. 47,16.31,31.17,4.53,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.20,1.31,0.53, 0.15
Roman:R50_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial,12.80,5.92,19. 69,18.96,31.66,8.21,1.77,0.13,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00, 0.87
Roman:R51_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial,20.47,1.28,20. 11,15.05,34.89,5.56,0.00,0.17,0.00,0.59,1.88,0.00, 0.00
Roman:R66_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial,7.81,1.07,23.5 7,24.26,37.48,4.96,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.85,0.00,0 .00
Roman:R67_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial,1.11,0.88,12.1 2,32.70,36.78,9.27,3.73,0.37,0.00,0.32,0.39,1.90,0 .44
Roman:R68_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial,2.31,0.00,13.7 9,30.08,39.44,10.13,3.04,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,1.07, 0.14
Roman:R69_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial,12.48,4.41,24. 55,22.98,33.70,0.54,0.00,0.59,0.00,0.50,0.25,0.00, 0.00
Roman:R70_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial,3.21,2.28,19.3 4,21.39,41.91,10.30,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.19,0.00,1.38, 0.00
Roman:R71_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial,6.09,0.06,20.3 3,24.54,44.64,3.40,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.94,0.00,0 .00
Roman:R72_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial,10.24,0.00,22. 92,19.04,41.20,5.12,0.00,0.00,0.57,0.00,0.91,0.00, 0.00
Roman:R73_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial,11.96,1.16,19. 72,17.30,34.38,11.41,2.22,0.01,0.03,0.19,0.00,1.21 ,0.41
Roman:R75_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial,8.62,0.00,22.6 8,21.74,35.29,9.37,0.00,0.37,0.00,0.21,0.47,1.25,0 .00
Roman:R76_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial,3.62,3.30,16.7 7,23.96,38.85,10.18,1.73,0.00,0.00,0.82,0.00,0.77, 0.00
Roman:R78_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial,5.76,2.77,22.8 2,22.14,43.72,2.03,0.00,0.10,0.00,0.27,0.39,0.00,0 .00
Roman:R80_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial,15.29,0.52,23. 55,5.43,37.60,11.68,0.00,0.20,0.00,0.00,0.26,4.42, 1.06
Roman:R81_Lazio_Rome_Roman_Imperial,11.54,2.43,22. 21,17.14,39.17,4.79,1.98,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.74,0.00, 0.00
Roman:R835_Marche_Roman_Imperial,17.48,7.33,22.76, 15.83,28.17,4.29,2.11,0.00,0.00,0.18,0.49,0.00,1.3 7
Roman:R836_Marche_Roman_Imperial,17.90,4.35,25.43, 19.62,29.98,1.61,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.28,0.83,0.00,0.0 0



Distance to: CreodaMum
2.91775599 Germanic:I0774_England_Saxon.SG_1483_ybp
3.78011905 Celtic_Briton:3DT16_England_Roman.SG_1750_ybp
4.65449245 Gaulish:France_IA_BES1248
4.75883389 Germanic:I0161_England_Saxon.SG_1165_ybp
4.77611767 Germanic:CL83_longobard_north_italy
5.04195399 Celtic_Briton:I0789_England_IA.SG_2155_ybp
5.12127914 Celtic_Briton:M1489_England_IA.SG_2035_ybp
5.15242661 Germanic:Alh1_Germany_Early_Medieval.SG_1500_ybp
5.17997104 Celtic_Briton:I0156_England_IA.SG_2017_ybp
5.22179088 Germanic:CL87_longobard_north_italy
5.42766064 Germanic:I0777_England_Saxon.SG_1478_ybp
5.50921047 Celtic_Briton:6DT22_England_Roman.SG_1750_ybp
5.60608598 Germanic:CL84_longobard_north_italy
5.81655396 Celtic_Briton:Hinxton_4_Cambridgshire_UK_2000_year s_M_R_DF25_H1ag1_
6.06600363 Germanic:CL92_longobard_north_italy
6.24626288 Celtic_Briton:6DT3_England_Roman.SG_1750_ybp
6.34759009 Celtic_Briton:6DT23_England_Roman.SG_1750_ybp
6.36259381 Celtic_Briton:6DT21_England_Roman.SG_1750_ybp
6.59962878 Germanic:CL93_longobard_north_italy
7.00166409 Celtic_Briton:I0160_England_IA.SG_1995_ybp
7.50214636 Germanic:Alh10_Germany_Early_Medieval.SG_1489_ybp
7.56433077 Germanic:CL146_Longobard_
7.56859961 Celtic_Briton:6DT18_England_Roman.SG_1750_ybp
7.73305244 Gaulish:France_IA_NOR3-6
7.94537601 Gaulish:France_IA_COL11

Target: CreodaMum
Distance: 0.5525% / 0.55245708
41.8 Germanic
40.8 Celtic_Briton
14.4 Gaulish
3.0 Roman

Target: CreodaMum
Distance: 0.8595% / 0.85948905 | ADC: 0.25x
59.6 Celtic_Briton
40.4 Germanic



Target: RyoHazuki(English+French)
Distance: 1.572989% / .0157298889
42.8 Anglo-Saxon
38.4 Gaulish
9.0 Celtic_Briton
5.6 Norse
4.2 Roman

Target: RyoHazuki(English+French)
Distance: 159.3055% / 1.59305455
53.8 Germanic
38.4 Gaulish
4.2 Roman
3.6 Celtic_Briton
Target: RyoHazuki(English+French)
Distance: 211.6008% / 2.11600751 | ADC: 0.5x
50.6 Gaulish
33.2 Germanic
16.2 Celtic_Briton

Target: RyoHazuki(English+French)
Distance: 184.3673% / 1.84367302 | ADC: 0.25x
60.4 Gaulish
39.6 Germanic


It seems true when Davidski says to examine IA/Medieval samples for reflecting recent ancestry. Nice models.

drb234
04-21-2022, 09:46 PM
Creoda Models.

Distance to: Drb
3.90220451 Germanic:CL87_longobard_north_italy
3.92471655 Celtic_Briton:3DT16_England_Roman.SG_1750_ybp
3.92471655 Celtic_Briton:3DT16_England_Roman.SG_1750_ybp
4.06305304 Anglo-Saxon:I0161_England_Saxon.SG_1165_ybp
4.06305304 Germanic:I0161_England_Saxon.SG_1165_ybp
4.19535457 Celtic_Briton:I0789_England_IA.SG_2155_ybp
4.19535457 Celtic_Briton:I0789_England_IA.SG_2155_ybp
4.73668661 Celtic_Briton:M1489_England_IA.SG_2035_ybp
4.73668661 Celtic_Briton:M1489_England_IA.SG_2035_ybp
4.87072890 Gaulish:France_IA_BES1248
4.87072890 Gaulish:France_IA_BES1248
5.15904061 Celtic_Briton:6DT22_England_Roman.SG_1750_ybp
5.15904061 Celtic_Briton:6DT22_England_Roman.SG_1750_ybp
5.70685553 Anglo-Saxon:I0774_England_Saxon.SG_1483_ybp
5.70685553 Germanic:I0774_England_Saxon.SG_1483_ybp
5.92070942 Anglo-Saxon:I0777_England_Saxon.SG_1478_ybp
5.92070942 Germanic:I0777_England_Saxon.SG_1478_ybp
6.44931004 Germanic:Alh1_Germany_Early_Medieval.SG_1500_ybp
6.51739979 Germanic:CL84_longobard_north_italy
6.61681192 Germanic:CL83_longobard_north_italy
6.91256826 Celtic_Briton:I0156_England_IA.SG_2017_ybp
6.91256826 Celtic_Briton:I0156_England_IA.SG_2017_ybp
7.01380781 Gaulish:France_IA_COL11
7.01380781 Gaulish:France_IA_COL11
7.11523717 Gaulish:France_IA_NOR3-6

Target: Drb
Distance: 38.3923% / 0.38392323
34.0 Anglo-Saxon
21.0 Latin
15.4 Norse
10.8 Germanic
10.0 Gaulish
8.6 Celtic_Briton
0.2 Roman

Target: Drb
Distance: 104.1133% / 1.04113250 | ADC: 0.25x RC
36.6 Anglo-Saxon
27.8 Gaulish
20.2 Germanic
15.4 Celtic_Briton

Original Post

Distance to: DRB_scaled
0.02307615 England_Saxon:I0161
0.02878525 England_Roman:6DT22
0.02974681 England_Saxon:I0777
0.03013960 England_Roman:6DT18
0.03143234 England_Saxon:I0774
0.03227363 England_Saxon:I0159
0.03309416 England_Roman:3DT16
0.03380445 DEU_MA_ACD:STR_355
0.03496423 SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_97002
0.03636424 England_Saxon:I0769
0.03701679 DEU_MA:ALH_1
0.03880148 England_Saxon:NO3423
0.03922251 England_Saxon:I0157
0.03948271 England_Roman:6DT21
0.03987317 DEU_MA_ACD:STR_220
0.04051059 DEU_MA:STR_480
0.04177259 SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_84001
0.04205554 SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_grt036
0.04235873 England_Roman:6DT23
0.04252220 England_Saxon:I0773
0.04473558 SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_stg021
0.04688496 DEU_MA:ALH_10
0.04940768 England_Roman:6DT3
0.04989039 DEU_MA:AED_106
0.05078549 DEU_MA:ALH_3

Target: DRB_scaled
Distance: 1.5724% / 0.01572400
56.4 England_Saxon
23.8 SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna
12.6 England_Roman
7.0 DEU_MA_ACD
0.2 DEU_MA

Target: DRB_scaled
Distance: 1.5733% / 0.01573314 | ADC: 0.25x RC
57.4 England_Saxon
22.6 SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna
13.2 England_Roman
6.8 DEU_MA_ACD

alnortedelsur
04-24-2022, 04:47 PM
I'm not English, but here we go..

Target: Alnortedelsur_scaled
Distance: 6.7439% / 0.06743945 | R5P
85.4 DEU_MA_ACD
14.6 England_Roman



Distance to: Alnortedelsur_scaled
0.07645549 DEU_MA_ACD:STR_310
0.08798148 DEU_MA_ACD:STR_228
0.08985287 DEU_MA_ACD:NW_54
0.09204078 DEU_MA:AED_1135
0.09207101 DEU_MA_ACD:STR_328
0.10339220 DEU_MA_ACD:STR_220
0.10356806 DEU_MA:ALH_3
0.10400434 England_Roman:6DT21
0.10412968 England_Roman:6DT22
0.10686708 DEU_MA:STR_480
0.10702092 England_Roman:6DT23
0.10779750 DEU_MA_ACD:BIM_33
0.10790033 SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_stg021
0.10889017 England_Roman:3DT16
0.10999206 DEU_MA:ALH_10
0.11044674 DEU_MA:ALH_1
0.11076524 SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_nuf002
0.11107979 England_Saxon:I0161
0.11251168 SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_97002
0.11353046 England_Saxon:I0774
0.11374033 DEU_MA:STR_486
0.11379352 England_Roman:6DT18
0.11446205 England_Roman:6DT3
0.11611136 England_Saxon:I0159
0.11638924 DEU_MA_ACD:STR_355
0.11653338 DEU_MA:NW_255
0.11769992 DEU_MA:AED_249
0.11975421 SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_grt036
0.12011268 England_Saxon:NO3423
0.12037157 DEU_MA:STR_316
0.12044607 England_Saxon:I0777
0.12306934 DEU_MA_ACD:AED_1108
0.12396093 England_Saxon:I0157
0.12494088 DEU_MA:AED_106
0.12671642 SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_84001
0.12724727 England_Saxon:I0769
0.12735990 SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_kls001
0.12882907 SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_gtm021
0.13212384 SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_stg026
0.13265839 SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_84005

noricum
04-24-2022, 05:18 PM
Target: G25noricum_scaled
Distance: 2.1252% / 0.02125180
64.4 SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna
35.6 DEU_MA_ACD

Distance to: G25noricum_scaled
0.03622389 SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_grt036
0.04321267 SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_97002
0.04435285 DEU_MA_ACD:STR_220
0.04546159 England_Saxon:I0774
0.04656467 DEU_MA:ALH_10
0.04718806 SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_stg021
0.04804153 England_Roman:3DT16
0.04898831 England_Roman:6DT22
0.04984847 DEU_MA_ACD:BIM_33
0.05122438 DEU_MA:AED_1135
0.05174393 DEU_MA:STR_486
0.05210254 England_Roman:6DT21
0.05330541 SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_84005
0.05482933 England_Saxon:I0161
0.05493693 DEU_MA:ALH_3
0.05553753 SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_nuf002
0.05580246 DEU_MA:ALH_1
0.05672743 England_Roman:6DT3
0.05681606 SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_stg026
0.05732077 DEU_MA:AED_249
0.05747316 DEU_MA_ACD:STR_228
0.05754080 England_Roman:6DT23
0.05794249 England_Saxon:I0159
0.05872286 SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_urm160
0.05883302 SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna:vik_84001

oszkar07
04-24-2022, 05:43 PM
Target: Oszkar
Distance: 1.9320% / 0.01932026
32.8 DEU_MA_ACD
31.4 SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna
18.2 England_Roman
17.6 DEU_MA

Target: Oszkar
Distance: 1.9451% / 0.01945066 | ADC: 0.25x RC
31.6 DEU_MA_ACD
29.4 SWE_Viking_Age_Sigtuna
24.2 DEU_MA
14.8 England_Roman