Mixed Polish Eurogenes K13 Admixture

[Polak]

Polish with mixed Eastern Slavic (Ukrainian) and distant Czech, German and Ashkenazi heritage. Do the results look about right? Thanks

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 46.92
2 North_Atlantic 31.51
3 West_Med 8.73
4 East_Med 6.97
5 West_Asian 2.28
6 East_Asian 2.27
7 Sub-Saharan 1.2
8 Siberian 0.13

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Belorussian 4.95
2 Polish 5.4
3 Estonian_Polish 5.66
4 Russian_Smolensk 6.19
5 South_Polish 6.65
6 Ukrainian 6.9
7 Southwest_Russian 7.17
8 Ukrainian_Belgorod 8.02
9 Estonian 8.22
10 Ukrainian_Lviv 8.57
11 Lithuanian 8.91
12 Finnish 9.91
13 Southwest_Finnish 10.26
14 Kargopol_Russian 11.18
15 East_Finnish 11.69
16 Croatian 13.06
17 Erzya 13.87
18 Hungarian 15.24
19 East_German 15.63
20 La_Brana-1 15.88


Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 92.2% Belorussian + 7.8% Spanish_Valencia @ 3.77
2 91.8% Belorussian + 8.2% Spanish_Cataluna @ 3.77
3 92.3% Belorussian + 7.7% Spanish_Murcia @ 3.81
4 92.1% Belorussian + 7.9% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 3.83
5 92.9% Belorussian + 7.1% Spanish_Aragon @ 3.84
6 89.8% Belorussian + 10.2% Southeast_English @ 3.88
7 92.4% Belorussian + 7.6% Spanish_Cantabria @ 3.88
8 90.6% Belorussian + 9.4% French @ 3.88
9 92.1% Belorussian + 7.9% Portuguese @ 3.89
10 92.7% Belorussian + 7.3% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 3.89
11 92.3% Belorussian + 7.7% Southwest_French @ 3.9
12 93.9% Belorussian + 6.1% French_Basque @ 3.9
13 89% Belorussian + 11% West_German @ 3.9
14 89.4% Belorussian + 10.6% South_Dutch @ 3.91
15 92.9% Belorussian + 7.1% Spanish_Andalucia @ 3.91
16 92.2% Belorussian + 7.8% Spanish_Galicia @ 3.94
17 92.7% Belorussian + 7.3% Spanish_Extremadura @ 3.95
18 83.6% Belorussian + 16.4% East_German @ 3.96
19 85.3% Belorussian + 14.7% Austrian @ 3.98
20 90.8% Belorussian + 9.2% Southwest_English @ 3.98

[Leto]

Try Dodecad K12b if you want my opinion.

[Polak]

Try Dodecad K12b if you want my opinion.

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_European 57.87
2 Atlantic_Med 25.02
3 Caucasus 11.8
4 Southeast_Asian 1.91
5 Gedrosia 1.22
6 Sub_Saharan 1.17
7 Southwest_Asian 0.43
8 East_Asian 0.43
9 Siberian 0.15

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Polish (Dodecad) 7.06
2 Mixed_Slav (Dodecad) 10.49
3 Ukranians (Yunusbayev) 10.58
4 Hungarians (Behar) 10.65
5 Belorussian (Behar) 12.83
6 German (Dodecad) 13.26
7 Russian (Dodecad) 13.53
8 Swedish (Dodecad) 13.6
9 Russian_B (Behar) 14.36
10 Mordovians (Yunusbayev) 15.89
11 Russian (HGDP) 16.33
12 Norwegian (Dodecad) 16.4
13 Lithuanian (Dodecad) 18.16
14 Dutch (Dodecad) 20.17
15 Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) 20.51
16 Lithuanians (Behar) 21.07
17 FIN30 (1000Genomes) 21.49
18 CEU30 (1000Genomes) 22.72
19 Finnish (Dodecad) 22.93
20 British_Isles (Dodecad) 22.95

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 77.8% Belorussian (Behar) + 22.2% Valencia (1000Genomes) @ 3.08
2 77.3% Belorussian (Behar) + 22.7% Cantabria (1000Genomes) @ 3.1
3 78.1% Belorussian (Behar) + 21.9% Aragon (1000Genomes) @ 3.15
4 87.4% Polish (Dodecad) + 12.6% Valencia (1000Genomes) @ 3.19
5 68.9% Belorussian (Behar) + 31.1% French (HGDP) @ 3.2
6 82.8% Belorussian (Behar) + 17.2% French_Basque (HGDP) @ 3.22
7 76.2% Belorussian (Behar) + 23.8% Cataluna (1000Genomes) @ 3.23
8 87.1% Polish (Dodecad) + 12.9% Cantabria (1000Genomes) @ 3.24
9 85.7% Mixed_Slav (Dodecad) + 14.3% French_Basque (HGDP) @ 3.25
10 87.7% Polish (Dodecad) + 12.3% Aragon (1000Genomes) @ 3.26
11 87% Polish (Dodecad) + 13% Spaniards (Behar) @ 3.28
12 81.5% Polish (Dodecad) + 18.5% French (HGDP) @ 3.28
13 87.9% Polish (Dodecad) + 12.1% Andalucia (1000Genomes) @ 3.29
14 86.4% Polish (Dodecad) + 13.6% Cataluna (1000Genomes) @ 3.29
15 77.1% Belorussian (Behar) + 22.9% Spaniards (Behar) @ 3.3
16 87.1% Polish (Dodecad) + 12.9% Spanish (Dodecad) @ 3.33
17 84.1% Mixed_Slav (Dodecad) + 15.9% Pais_Vasco (1000Genomes) @ 3.33
18 87.6% Polish (Dodecad) + 12.4% Castilla_La_Mancha (1000Genomes) @ 3.35
19 81% Belorussian (Behar) + 19% Pais_Vasco (1000Genomes) @ 3.35
20 78% Belorussian (Behar) + 22% Castilla_La_Mancha (1000Genomes) @ 3.37


Is the SSA just noise? I get above 1% SSA on every single calculator but on my 23andme result I didn't get any. Cheers.

[Scandal]

Polish with mixed Eastern Slavic (Ukrainian) and distant Czech, German and Ashkenazi heritage. Do the results look about right? Thanks

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Have you tried vahaduo?

[Scandal]

Is the SSA just noise? I get above 1% SSA on every single calculator but on my 23andme result I didn't get any. Cheers.

I don't think it's noise. How much ashkenazi did 23andme detect?

[Jana]

SSA could be from Ashkenazi, they have such minor admix which isn't noise.

[Polak]

I don't think it's noise. How much ashkenazi did 23andme detect?

1.2%, and it stays even at 90% confidence, plus the majority of my relatives on 23andme are Ashkenazi Jews. And I'm not sure on how to use Vahaduo sorry.

[Leto]

Yeah, the SSA looks odd. Also your Mongoloid is East Asian and Southeast Asian respectively instead of the more usual Siberian.

Distance to: Polak
4.30304543 PL_Mazovia
4.39364314 Belorussian
5.49731753 Ukrainian
6.08138142 Rus_Smolensk
6.33705768 Rus_Kostroma
6.59826492 Sorb_Lusatia
6.75672998 Southwest_Rus
7.14567002 Rus_Tver
9.31434378 Slovak
9.83045269 Estonian

Target: Polak
Distance: 2.8168% / 2.81681497
45.4 Lithuanian
40.2 Mixed_Slav
6.4 French_Basque
6.4 Sardinian
1.2 Dai
0.4 Yoruba

I have to say D K12b Vahaduo currently lacks more precise Polish references.

[Polak]

SSA could be from Ashkenazi, they have such minor admix which isn't noise.

But my Ashkenazi is only 1.2% according to 23andme

[Leto]

It's possible that the 23andme raw data is not good enough for the OP.

[Scandal]

1.2%, and it stays even at 90% confidence, plus the majority of my relatives on 23andme are Ashkenazi Jews. And I'm not sure on how to use Vahaduo sorry.

I will do vahaduo for you

[Polak]

I will do vahaduo for you

Okay thank you, what do you need?

[Polak]

It's possible that the 23andme raw data is not good enough for the OP.

What do you mean by this? Do you mean that the data isn't accurate enough for me?

[Leto]

What do you mean by this? Do you mean that the data isn't accurate enough for me?
Yes, the V5 chip of 23andme has been receiving a lot of criticism ever since it came out.

[Leto]

Try MDLP K23b (wait until it loads!) and EUtest.

[Satem]

From which part of Ukraine did your ancestors come from?

[Scandal]

Vahaduo K13

Polak(Polish_member),31.51,46.92,8.73,2.28,6.97,0, 0,2.27,0.13,0,0,0,1.2
Target: Polak(Polish_member)
Distance: 3.5743% / 3.57432763
57.8 Belorussian
19.2 Latvian
7.8 Swiss_Italian
7.4 Sorb_Lusatia
6.2 Swedish
1.4 Dai
0.2 Yoruban

Distance to: Polak(Polish_member)
5.35520308 Belorussian
5.95423379 Polish
6.21165839 Estonian_Polish
6.88870089 Russian_Smolensk
7.17918519 Sorb_Lusatia
7.43378100 South_Polish
7.70192833 Ukrainian
7.99825606 Southwest_Russian
8.66061199 Cossacks_Kuban
8.99852766 Estonian
9.16444215 Ukrainian_Belgorod
9.56919014 Ukrainian_Lviv
10.02294867 Lithuanian
10.54520744 Finnish
11.27317613 Southwest_Finnish
11.63753410 Czech
11.76175632 Slovak
12.03148370 Kargopol_Russian
12.24899588 East_Finnish
12.82031981 Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk
13.13952430 Hungarian_Northern
13.27509322 German_east
14.40481006 Latvian
14.79026031 Croat_Croatia_Zagorje
15.25213756 Erzya

[Polak]

Try MDLP K23b (wait until it loads!) and EUtest.

MDLP K23b:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 European_Hunters_Gatherers 55.4
2 Caucasian 25.69
3 European_Early_Farmers 12.13
4 Ancestral_Altaic 1.8
5 Archaic_African 1.35
6 Amerindian 1.12
7 Near_East 0.91
8 Khoisan 0.77
9 Melano_Polynesian 0.4
10 Arctic 0.32
11 South_Central_Asian 0.12

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Sorb ( ) 4
2 Kashub ( ) 4.02
3 Russian-North-West ( ) 5.26
4 Slovak ( ) 5.39
5 German ( ) 6.06
6 Russian-West ( ) 6.19
7 Russian_North ( ) 6.68
8 Ukrainian_West ( ) 6.83
9 Czech ( ) 6.86
10 Belarusian_West ( ) 6.99
11 Russian_Meshtchyora ( ) 7.03
12 Belarusian-East ( ) 7.29
13 Russian-Upper-Volga ( ) 7.67
14 Russian_South ( ) 7.69
15 Balt ( ) 7.79
16 Hungarian ( ) 8.31
17 Ukrainian_Center ( ) 8.33
18 Hungarian_Budapest ( ) 8.5
19 Ukrainian_East ( ) 8.58
20 Slovenian ( ) 8.7

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 86.6% Belarusian_Russian ( ) + 13.4% Basque_Spanish ( ) @ 2.42
2 86.6% Mixed_East_Slav ( ) + 13.4% Basque_Spanish ( ) @ 2.45
3 86.9% Belarusian_Russian ( ) + 13.1% Basque_French ( ) @ 2.46
4 86.9% Mixed_East_Slav ( ) + 13.1% Basque_French ( ) @ 2.49
5 84.7% Belarusian_Russian ( ) + 15.3% Spanish_Pais_Vasco_IBS ( ) @ 2.53
6 86.6% Lithuanian ( ) + 13.4% Sardinian ( ) @ 2.54
7 84.7% Mixed_East_Slav ( ) + 15.3% Spanish_Pais_Vasco_IBS ( ) @ 2.55
8 64% Pole ( ) + 36% Swede ( ) @ 2.66
9 71% Pole ( ) + 29% Norwegian_West ( ) @ 2.68
10 77.3% Lithuanian ( ) + 22.7% Spanish_Baleares_IBS ( ) @ 2.71
11 81.6% Belarusian_Russian ( ) + 18.4% French_South ( ) @ 2.76
12 81.6% Mixed_East_Slav ( ) + 18.4% French_South ( ) @ 2.78
13 52.9% Hungarian ( ) + 47.1% Estonian ( ) @ 2.79
14 76.6% Latvian ( ) + 23.4% Italian_Bergamo ( ) @ 2.82
15 88.2% Belarusian ( ) + 11.8% Basque_Spanish ( ) @ 2.85
16 75.5% Estonian ( ) + 24.5% Italian_Piedmont ( ) @ 2.85
17 67.6% Belarusian_Russian ( ) + 32.4% English_Kent_GBR ( ) @ 2.85
18 79.9% Belarusian_Russian ( ) + 20.1% Spanish_Cantabria_IBS ( ) @ 2.85
19 67.5% Mixed_East_Slav ( ) + 32.5% English_Kent_GBR ( ) @ 2.86
20 88.5% Belarusian ( ) + 11.5% Basque_French ( ) @ 2.87

EUTest:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 SOUTH_BALTIC 29.84
2 EAST_EURO 22.68
3 ATLANTIC 18.51
4 NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 16.92
5 WEST_MED 5.53
6 EAST_MED 4.92
7 WEST_AFRICAN 1.16
8 EAST_ASIAN 0.43

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 PL 4.92
2 Belorussian 6.19
3 West_Russian 6.23
4 UA 6.56
5 EE 7.16
6 Ukrainian-Russian 7.43
7 Northwest_Russian 7.95
8 LIT 10.11
9 South_Finnish 11.73
10 East_Russian 12.8
11 North_Russian 13.25
12 East_Finnish 13.5
13 HU 13.93
14 Erzya 15.16
15 North_Swedish 16.12
16 AT 16.6
17 South_&_Central_Swedish 18.85
18 Serbian 19.37
19 NO 20.09
20 West_&_Central_German 20.8

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 89.1% Belorussian + 10.9% French_Basque @ 3.85
2 85.3% Northwest_Russian + 14.7% French_Basque @ 4.07
3 77.6% Northwest_Russian + 22.4% Cornish @ 4.22
4 80.1% Northwest_Russian + 19.9% FR @ 4.32
5 82.9% Northwest_Russian + 17.1% ES @ 4.35
6 70.7% Northwest_Russian + 29.3% AT @ 4.38
7 78.3% Northwest_Russian + 21.7% Scottish @ 4.4
8 88.3% Belorussian + 11.7% ES @ 4.45
9 75.5% Northwest_Russian + 24.5% West_&_Central_German @ 4.46
10 79.1% EE + 20.9% RO @ 4.48
11 77.6% Northwest_Russian + 22.4% Orcadian @ 4.51
12 82.8% Northwest_Russian + 17.2% PT @ 4.53
13 84.8% Belorussian + 15.2% Cornish @ 4.55
14 78.3% Northwest_Russian + 21.7% English @ 4.55
15 85.1% Belorussian + 14.9% Scottish @ 4.56
16 76.5% Northwest_Russian + 23.5% NL @ 4.57
17 86.7% Belorussian + 13.3% FR @ 4.61
18 78.5% Northwest_Russian + 21.5% IE @ 4.61
19 76.8% PL + 23.2% EE @ 4.63
20 88.5% Belorussian + 11.5% PT @ 4.66

[Jana]

But my Ashkenazi is only 1.2% according to 23andme

Yes, that's nothing. Full Ashkenazis can score similar amount like you. Well, you are very Slavic genetically :)

[Polak]

From which part of Ukraine did your ancestors come from?

Galicia, Volhynia and Podolia. My grandfather wasn't fully Ukrainian, he was a mixture of Ukrainian, Belarusian and West Russian.

[Polak]

Vahaduo K13

Target: Polak(Polish_member)
Distance: 3.5743% / 3.57432763
57.8 Belorussian
19.2 Latvian
7.8 Swiss_Italian
7.4 Sorb_Lusatia
6.2 Swedish
1.4 Dai
0.2 Yoruban

Distance to: Polak(Polish_member)
5.35520308 Belorussian
5.95423379 Polish
6.21165839 Estonian_Polish
6.88870089 Russian_Smolensk
7.17918519 Sorb_Lusatia
7.43378100 South_Polish
7.70192833 Ukrainian
7.99825606 Southwest_Russian
8.66061199 Cossacks_Kuban
8.99852766 Estonian
9.16444215 Ukrainian_Belgorod
9.56919014 Ukrainian_Lviv
10.02294867 Lithuanian
10.54520744 Finnish
11.27317613 Southwest_Finnish
11.63753410 Czech
11.76175632 Slovak
12.03148370 Kargopol_Russian
12.24899588 East_Finnish
12.82031981 Ukrainian_Ivano_Frankivsk
13.13952430 Hungarian_Northern
13.27509322 German_east
14.40481006 Latvian
14.79026031 Croat_Croatia_Zagorje
15.25213756 Erzya

Nice thank you, could you explain the results for a simpleton like me? Thanks lol

[Polak]

Yes, that's nothing. Full Ashkenazis can score similar amount like you. Well, you are very Slavic genetically :)

Interesting haha maybe Pushkin was my ancestor :rolleyes: I am a Slavic mutt indeed :)

[Scandal]

Nice thank you, could you explain the results for a simpleton like me? Thanks lol

You're very slightly closer to Belarusian avarage than to Polish avarage on k13 calculator.

Your ancestry can be theoritically modelled liked this:

Target: Polak(Polish_member)
Distance: 3.5743% / 3.57432763
57.8 Belorussian
19.2 Latvian
7.8 Swiss_Italian
7.4 Sorb_Lusatia
6.2 Swedish
1.4 Dai
0.2 Yoruban

those numbers are perceantages, so your ancestry can be modeled as 58% russian, 19% latvian, 8% swiss_italian etc.

[Scandal]

Comparing you to other apricity members

Target: Polak(Polish_member)
Distance: 3.3305% / 3.33048095
45.8 Lukasz(polish)
35.8 Karol(slovak+1/4_white_american)
16.0 Sippola(finn)
1.4 Cumansky(polish/ukrainian)
1.0 Iloko(filipino)


Distance to: Polak(Polish_member)
5.56008093 Lemgrant_mother(Ukrainian)
7.04318820 Lemgrant(ukrainian)
7.23877752 Lukasz(polish)
7.26405534 Cumansky(polish/ukrainian)
7.66432645 All(silesian)
7.90099361 Peterski(polish)
7.94300321 Stanislav(russian/polish)
8.06961585 Michal(polish)
8.10760754 Vyacheslav(russian)
8.21731708 Silentkiller(russian)
8.31004212 SSlava(russian)
8.44900586 rurov0(Russian)
8.89508853 Not_a_cop_grandpa2(russian)
9.06284723 A-ha(ukrainian)
9.46029598 Karol_friend(Czech)
9.50508811 Karol_father(slovak)
9.65746344 Leto(Russian)
9.74238677 Not_a_cop(russian)
9.79671884 Lemminkainen(Finnish)
9.87601134 Leto_father(belarusian)
9.92055442 Visar(polish)
10.64162582 Karol(slovak+1/4_white_american)
10.99896359 Universe(hungarian)
10.99896359 Universe
11.04120464 nuti(slovak)

[Polak]

Comparing you to other apricity members

Target: Polak(Polish_member)
Distance: 3.3305% / 3.33048095
45.8 Lukasz(polish)
35.8 Karol(slovak+1/4_white_american)
16.0 Sippola(finn)
1.4 Cumansky(polish/ukrainian)
1.0 Iloko(filipino)


Distance to: Polak(Polish_member)
5.56008093 Lemgrant_mother(Ukrainian)
7.04318820 Lemgrant(ukrainian)
7.23877752 Lukasz(polish)
7.26405534 Cumansky(polish/ukrainian)
7.66432645 All(silesian)
7.90099361 Peterski(polish)
7.94300321 Stanislav(russian/polish)
8.06961585 Michal(polish)
8.10760754 Vyacheslav(russian)
8.21731708 Silentkiller(russian)
8.31004212 SSlava(russian)
8.44900586 rurov0(Russian)
8.89508853 Not_a_cop_grandpa2(russian)
9.06284723 A-ha(ukrainian)
9.46029598 Karol_friend(Czech)
9.50508811 Karol_father(slovak)
9.65746344 Leto(Russian)
9.74238677 Not_a_cop(russian)
9.79671884 Lemminkainen(Finnish)
9.87601134 Leto_father(belarusian)
9.92055442 Visar(polish)
10.64162582 Karol(slovak+1/4_white_american)
10.99896359 Universe(hungarian)
10.99896359 Universe
11.04120464 nuti(slovak)

Thank you, that's super helpful and informative. Looks like I'm more Eastern Shifted than most Poles, which is surprising considering I'm actually around 65% Polish and most of my roots are from around Wielkopolska.

[Scandal]

Yeah, the SSA looks odd. Also your Mongoloid is East Asian and Southeast Asian respectively instead of the more usual Siberian.

Distance to: Polak
4.30304543 PL_Mazovia
4.39364314 Belorussian
5.49731753 Ukrainian
6.08138142 Rus_Smolensk
6.33705768 Rus_Kostroma
6.59826492 Sorb_Lusatia
6.75672998 Southwest_Rus
7.14567002 Rus_Tver
9.31434378 Slovak
9.83045269 Estonian

Target: Polak
Distance: 2.8168% / 2.81681497
45.4 Lithuanian
40.2 Mixed_Slav
6.4 French_Basque
6.4 Sardinian
1.2 Dai
0.4 Yoruba

I have to say D K12b Vahaduo currently lacks more precise Polish references.

What does he get if you remove "mixed_slav" from the source?

[Leto]

What does he get if you remove "mixed_slav" from the source?
The distance will probably be bigger if I remove it.

[Polak]

Is there any evidence of my other ancestries in my admixture results?

[Leto]

What does he get if you remove "mixed_slav" from the source?
Target: Polak
Distance: 2.8595% / 2.85948290
77.8 Lithuanian
11.0 Sardinian
9.6 PL_Mazovia
1.2 Dai
0.4 Yoruba

[Scandal]

Is there any evidence of my other ancestries in my admixture results?

I think I can see the east slavic, the rest nope. Your east asian and ssa are odd for a pole imo.

[Scandal]

Target: Polak
Distance: 2.8595% / 2.85948290
77.8 Lithuanian
11.0 Sardinian
9.6 PL_Mazovia
1.2 Dai
0.4 Yoruba

So the distance barely if at all increased. I had the same experience in my case. I too removed it when I was viewing my result. It's a useless population, also fake imo.

[Polak]

I think I can see the east slavic, the rest nope. Your east asian and ssa are odd for a pole imo.

Cool thanks :D

Yeah I don't think I've seen a Pole with over 1% SSA before and I've heard that East Asian is fairly uncommon as well. Is this ancient admixture or could it be more recent, just out of curiosity? Thank you for the help

[Scandal]

Cool thanks :D

Yeah I don't think I've seen a Pole with over 1% SSA before and I've heard that East Asian is fairly uncommon as well. Is this ancient admixture or could it be more recent, just out of curiosity? Thank you for the help

I've no idea to be honest.

[Polak]

I've no idea to be honest.

Well I have an ancestor who was really swarthy, I know that phenotypes don't mean much but this guy was v dark on pictures. I always suspected he might have been of Southern (Turkish?) descent because of his surname. Bare in mind that this ancestor lived in South-Eastern Poland (present-day Ukraine). If you want I could attach a picture just for reference? It ain't much but it could be a lead.

[Leto]

Well I have an ancestor who was really swarthy, I know that phenotypes don't mean much but this guy was v dark on pictures. I always suspected he might have been of Southern (Turkish?) descent because of his surname. Bare in mind that this ancestor lived in South-Eastern Poland (present-day Ukraine). If you want I could attach a picture just for reference? It ain't much but it could be a lead.
You don't even score any Greek & Balkan on 23andme.

[Polak]

You don't even score any Greek & Balkan on 23andme.

Exactly, so there can't be any harm in it. It's all speculation at this point.

[Leto]

Exactly, so there can't be any harm in it. It's all speculation at this point.
What harm? I mean you don't seem to have any recent Southern Euro, let alone West Asian admixture.

[Polak]

What harm? I mean you don't seem to have any recent Southern Euro, let alone West Asian admixture.

Fair enough, you're right :thumb001: