View Full Version : Ethnogenesis of Estonian people. Are they German(ic) admixed?
Scandal
08-09-2020, 05:19 PM
I don't know much about history of estonian people but they seem genetically German/Germanic admixed
Estonian avarage on Vahaduo k13:
Target: Estonian
Distance: 1.0089% / 1.00887471
48.0 Latvian
39.6 Southwest_Finnish
4.8 North-Swedish
4.4 Finnish
2.6 East_Finnish
0.4 French_Basque
0.2 Karitiana
Southwest_finnish have germanic dna embedded in them:
Target: Southwest_Finnish
Distance: 1.5321% / 1.53208857
55.4 Estonian
31.4 North-Swedish
12.0 Swedish
1.2 Evens
I also heard German surnames and given names are common among ethnic Estonian people.
They score medieval Germanic using ancient samples:
Target: Estonian
Distance: 1.0635% / 0.01063535
35.2 Baltic_EST_BA
25.4 DEU_MA
20.2 Baltic_EST_MA
9.4 RUS_Sunghir_MA
5.8 FIN_Levanluhta_IA
4.0 Baltic_LTU_BA
Also minor Slavic input (RUS_Sunghir)
Yes, they might have some Swedish from past centuries.
vbnetkhio
08-09-2020, 06:05 PM
They score medieval Germanic using ancient samples:
Target: Estonian
Distance: 1.0635% / 0.01063535
35.2 Baltic_EST_BA
25.4 DEU_MA
20.2 Baltic_EST_MA
9.4 RUS_Sunghir_MA
5.8 FIN_Levanluhta_IA
4.0 Baltic_LTU_BA
Also minor Slavic input (RUS_Sunghir)
I don't know much about history of estonian people but they seem genetically German/Germanic admixed
Estonian avarage on Vahaduo k13:
Southwest_finnish have germanic dna embedded in them:
I also heard German surnames and given names are common among ethnic Estonian people.
Eurogenes calcs don't work well for Finnic peoples.
North_Atlantic is =modern Scots and Orcadians, and Baltic is probably Latvians.
these components work well for populations further south, but with Finns and Estonians the algorithm struggles and assigns them a lot of North atlantic to compensate for something.
i think they do have some Germanic, but Eurogenes is not the right tool for measuring this.
The elevated percentage of I1 and the historic presence of Swedes in places like Estonia indeed point to a decent amount of Germanic admixture in Estonians, Latvians and Baltic Finns, even Karelians, Ingrians and Vepsians.
I have a couple Estonian Swedish Gedmatch kits, they are actually more Scandinavian than Finland-Swedes, often 50-60% Danish/Norwegian-like.
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