NEW-Model yourself with only a sample from each continent (G25 calculator) [Archive] - The Apricity Forum: A European Cultural Community

gixajo

08-10-2020, 08:31 PM

Another crappy model made by gixajo.:D

This time I will use different references, of course.

In the previous similar model I use a Northwestern Europe reference as European reference, this time I will use the opposite one, the most Southeastern European reference: Greek Islander.

I have just seen Thambi in another thread, so I will add an Indian reference as Asian.

For Africa and America two averages made by me, and for Oceania, a basic reference directly from modern averages datasheet, sorry.

SCALED

https://vahaduo.github.io/vahaduo/

Africa:SSA=Bantu_Kenya,+Masai+Igbo
America:Amerindian=Quechua+Zapotec+North_Amerindia n
Asia:India,=Gujar_India,+Uttar_Pradesh,+Gujarati,
Europe:Greek:Islander=Cypriot,+Greek_Kos
Oceania:Papuan=Papuan

For fun.

Africa:SSA:A,-0.55687967,0.06753267,0.00828100,-0.00197833,-0.00047466,-0.00003500,-0.01680300,0.02377800,0.01856900,-0.02692533,-0.00502067,0.00591333,-0.01327400,0.00153100,-0.00610700,0.00092800,0.00531300,-0.00194267,0.00208467,-0.00411667,0.00054600,-0.00162833,-0.00365633,-0.00061267,0.00158167
America:Amerindian,0.05436967,-0.29863367,0.11187933,0.08561167,-0.10229633,-0.01710567,-0.24649467,-0.29544133,-0.00721667,-0.01559333,-0.00024900,-0.00372400,0.00231900,0.01401467,-0.00821100,0.00129067,0.00334633,0.00021767,0.0046 9700,0.00300767,0.00010800,0.00123633,0.00109267,0 .00337033,0.00195233
Asia:India,0.05425723,-0.05224190,-0.14531813,0.10516810,-0.07525927,0.06000990,0.00056697,0.01146813,0.0299 5450,0.01783713,-0.00570163,-0.00016823,-0.00002613,0.00110113,0.00060693,-0.00117137,-0.00384817,0.00066970,0.00074737,-0.00379923,0.00015303,-0.00049060,0.00129760,0.00150510,-0.00206300
Europe:Greek:Islander,0.10368180,0.14660290,-0.02994705,-0.06206085,-0.00144900,-0.02127530,0.00125335,-0.00422575,-0.00151690,0.01532945,0.00354890,0.00149865,-0.00068445,0.00139340,-0.00960130,0.00194265,0.00618690,0.00097050,0.0029 8100,-0.00244565,-0.00313085,0.00141000,-0.00144465,0.00018575,-0.00209065
Oceania:Papuan,-0.045985,-0.241087,-0.263758,0.309242,0.206931,-0.509589,-0.001974,0.007015,-0.041273,-0.011955,-0.018902,0.000869,0.001397,-0.00311,0.000163,-0.000318,-0.00219,-0.00185,-0.001081,-0.001526,0.002346,0.001805,0.001232,0.001832,0.001 605

Luso

08-10-2020, 08:33 PM

Target: Luso_scaled
Distance: 11.1476% / 0.11147636
94.4 Europe:Greek:Islander
3.2 America:Amerindian
2.4 Africa:SSA:A

gixajo

08-10-2020, 08:33 PM

Luso

08-10-2020, 08:35 PM

gixajo

08-10-2020, 08:35 PM

Target: gixajo_scaled
Distance: 12.1930% / 0.12192980
97.4 Europe
2.6 America

Target: gixajo_scaled
Distance: 12.2098% / 0.12209788 | ADC: 0.25x
98.4 Europe
1.6 America

Defcon2

08-10-2020, 08:37 PM

Target: Juan_scaled
Distance: 11.3505% / 0.11350468
94.4 Europe
3.4 America
1.8 Africa
0.4 Asia

Dr.Bek

08-10-2020, 08:38 PM

Whats a G25 calculator and how do you use it, sorry but I'm new to these kind of stuff :)

Luso

08-10-2020, 08:40 PM

Whats a G25 calculator and how do you use it, sorry but I'm new to these kind of stuff :)

G25 calculators use G25 coordinates. You can send your raw DNA from Ancestry, MyHeritage, or 23andMe and the creator by the name of Davidski will send you via gmail your coordinates. These coordinates can be put in on "target" on (https://vahaduo.github.io/vahaduo/) with custom sources people create, or you can put in your coordinates in pre-made g25 selections (http://g25vahaduo.genetics.ovh/).

G25 coordinates are $12 and you can contact Davidski via email @ eurogenesblog@gmail.com to get them

Dr.Bek

08-10-2020, 08:45 PM

G25 calculators use G25 coordinates. You can send your raw DNA from Ancestry, MyHeritage, or 23andMe and the creator by the name of Davidski will send you via gmail your coordinates. These coordinates can be put in on "target" on (https://vahaduo.github.io/vahaduo/) with custom sources people create, or you can put in your coordinates in pre-made g25 selections (http://g25vahaduo.genetics.ovh/).

G25 coordinates are $12 and you can contact Davidski via email @ eurogenesblog@gmail.com

Interesting, thanks anyways

Dr.Bek

08-10-2020, 08:46 PM

marco

08-10-2020, 08:53 PM

I had to add Moroccan

Distance: 1.8310% / 0.01830975
87.4 Moroccan
10.6 Europe
1.0 Africa
0.6 Oceania
0.4 America

If I add Bedouin B

Distance: 1.3381% / 0.01338072
80.4 Moroccan
11.2 BedouinB
5.2 Europe
2.0 Africa
0.6 America
0.6 Oceania

mitalit

08-10-2020, 09:09 PM

Target: Xabier_scaled
Distance: 11.5975% / 0.11597505
96.0 Europe
4.0 America

Defcon2

08-10-2020, 09:09 PM

Target: gixajo_scaled
Distance: 12.1930% / 0.12192980
97.4 Europe
2.6 America

Target: gixajo_scaled
Distance: 12.2098% / 0.12209788 | ADC: 0.25x
98.4 Europe
1.6 America

He encontrado el modelo definitivo para revelar nuestra verdadera composición étnica! al fin!

Africa:Moroccan_North,-0.029973,0.137322,-0.003038,-0.0674,0.028057,-0.031917,-0.024454,0.005051,0.060982,0.032732,0.005909,-0.006552,0.018591,-0.01471,0.01514,-0.010563,0.00126,-0.017983,-0.040747,0.009296,-0.012194,-0.03463,0.021438,-0.005576,0.004397
America:Amerindian,0.05436967,-0.29863367,0.11187933,0.08561167,-0.10229633,-0.01710567,-0.24649467,-0.29544133,-0.00721667,-0.01559333,-0.00024900,-0.00372400,0.00231900,0.01401467,-0.00821100,0.00129067,0.00334633,0.00021767,0.0046 9700,0.00300767,0.00010800,0.00123633,0.00109267,0 .00337033,0.00195233
Asia:Han_Guangdong,0.019187,-0.45249,-0.020796,-0.070968,0.10103,0.04765,0.000269,-0.008736,-0.015106,-0.006717,-0.030622,-0.003618,0.005777,-0.00407,-0.004188,0.002652,-0.000335,0.002244,-0.000664,-0.015668,0.013726,0.008656,0.012624,0.000207,-0.002652
Europe:Finnish_East,0.126571,0.075454,0.095223,0.0 81299,0.027913,0.023985,0.009024,0.016361,0.005215 ,-0.030142,0.00479,-0.008887,0.018508,0.005725,0.000801,-0.002811,-0.005033,-0.000317,-0.002074,0.005428,0.008809,0.001274,0.002268,0.004 916,0.004407
Oceania:Papuan,-0.045985,-0.241087,-0.263758,0.309242,0.206931,-0.509589,-0.001974,0.007015,-0.041273,-0.011955,-0.018902,0.000869,0.001397,-0.00311,0.000163,-0.000318,-0.00219,-0.00185,-0.001081,-0.001526,0.002346,0.001805,0.001232,0.001832,0.001 605

Target: Juan_scaled
Distance: 9.3150% / 0.09315029
54.2 Europe
45.8 Africa

gixajo

08-10-2020, 09:18 PM

I had to add Moroccan

That it´s fantastic, but you can open a new thread to your model, because this is not the proposed model in this thread.;)

And don´t worry, those results are not real, I will do in the future another similar model with North Africans as reference for Africa, and you will have more realistic results, and me too.

gixajo

08-10-2020, 09:37 PM

He encontrado el modelo definitivo para revelar nuestra verdadera composición étnica! al fin!

...

But...this is not my model!!!

I wanted to include NA in a future similar model.:picard1:

But wow, your model is truly accurate.:eek:

Target: gixajo_scaled
Distance: 10.2857% / 0.10285673
60.8 Europe
39.2 Africa

Target: gixajo_scaled
Distance: 10.2873% / 0.10287303 | ADC: 0.25x
61.4 Europe
38.6 Africa

This is the one I thought for the future:

America:Amerindian=Quechua+Zapotec+North_Amerindia n
Europe:Baltic=Latvian+Estonian
Africa:Berber=MAR_ERR,+MAR_TIZ,+Tunisia_Chen,+Tuni sia_Sen
Asia:Levantine/Jewish=(Levant_Yehud_IBA,+Levant_Ashkelon_IA1,)+Pa lestinian_Beit_Sahour
Oceania:Papuan=Papuan

America:Amerindian,0.05436967,-0.29863367,0.11187933,0.08561167,-0.10229633,-0.01710567,-0.24649467,-0.29544133,-0.00721667,-0.01559333,-0.00024900,-0.00372400,0.00231900,0.01401467,-0.00821100,0.00129067,0.00334633,0.00021767,0.0046 9700,0.00300767,0.00010800,0.00123633,0.00109267,0 .00337033,0.00195233
Europe:Baltic,0.13419740,0.11830925,0.08826510,0.0 8638635,0.04299255,0.03189105,0.01198555,0.0142609 5,-0.00087945,-0.03266560,-0.00175390,-0.01308335,0.02134025,0.02636855,-0.00861145,0.00288380,0.00146670,-0.00143170,0.00147695,0.00325795,-0.00070510,-0.00379000,0.00666760,-0.00428965,0.00284405
Africa:Berber,-0.06548320,0.13410613,-0.00816420,-0.07538218,0.02581348,-0.03472953,-0.02944445,0.00831648,0.06752790,0.02796198,0.0070 7855,-0.00796418,0.02308645,-0.01552258,0.01677808,-0.01294335,-0.00285148,-0.02166338,-0.04415378,0.01019313,-0.01565483,-0.03933808,0.02467100,-0.00293920,0.00493865
Asia:Levantine/Jewish,0.08970675,0.15220263,-0.04970895,-0.08630155,-0.00821318,-0.02909195,-0.00308430,-0.00400938,0.01374138,0.01814400,0.00735825,-0.00407470,0.00702445,0.00651988,-0.00855050,0.00501358,-0.00108388,0.00259705,0.00276545,0.00053945,-0.00321313,0.00803751,0.00093205,0.00186763,0.0012 6450
Oceania:Papuan,-0.045985,-0.241087,-0.263758,0.309242,0.206931,-0.509589,-0.001974,0.007015,-0.041273,-0.011955,-0.018902,0.000869,0.001397,-0.00311,0.000163,-0.000318,-0.00219,-0.00185,-0.001081,-0.001526,0.002346,0.001805,0.001232,0.001832,0.001 605

Target: gixajo_scaled
Distance: 7.8589% / 0.07858865
52.6 Europe
40.4 Asia
7.0 Africa

Target: gixajo_scaled
Distance: 7.8696% / 0.07869640 | ADC: 0.25x
52.8 Europe
42.2 Asia
5.0 Africa

marco

08-10-2020, 09:41 PM

That it´s fantastic, but you can open a new thread to your model, because this is not the proposed model in this thread.;)

And don´t worry, those results are not real, I will do in the future another similar model with North Africans as reference for Africa, and you will have more realistic results, and me too.

Sorry bro here is your original one

Distance: 9.4146% / 0.09414570
73.8 Europe
25.8 Africa
0.4 Oceania

gixajo

08-10-2020, 09:42 PM

Soy practicamente 50% Judío. :D

gixajo

08-10-2020, 09:44 PM

Sorry bro here is your original one

Distance: 9.4146% / 0.09414570
73.8 Europe
25.8 Africa
0.4 Oceania

The last one I posted has a fantastic average reference for Berbers, you will probably score less than me in the Levantine/Jewish component.

America:Amerindian,0.05436967,-0.29863367,0.11187933,0.08561167,-0.10229633,-0.01710567,-0.24649467,-0.29544133,-0.00721667,-0.01559333,-0.00024900,-0.00372400,0.00231900,0.01401467,-0.00821100,0.00129067,0.00334633,0.00021767,0.0046 9700,0.00300767,0.00010800,0.00123633,0.00109267,0 .00337033,0.00195233
Europe:Baltic,0.13419740,0.11830925,0.08826510,0.0 8638635,0.04299255,0.03189105,0.01198555,0.0142609 5,-0.00087945,-0.03266560,-0.00175390,-0.01308335,0.02134025,0.02636855,-0.00861145,0.00288380,0.00146670,-0.00143170,0.00147695,0.00325795,-0.00070510,-0.00379000,0.00666760,-0.00428965,0.00284405
Africa:Berber,-0.06548320,0.13410613,-0.00816420,-0.07538218,0.02581348,-0.03472953,-0.02944445,0.00831648,0.06752790,0.02796198,0.0070 7855,-0.00796418,0.02308645,-0.01552258,0.01677808,-0.01294335,-0.00285148,-0.02166338,-0.04415378,0.01019313,-0.01565483,-0.03933808,0.02467100,-0.00293920,0.00493865
Asia:Levantine/Jewish,0.08970675,0.15220263,-0.04970895,-0.08630155,-0.00821318,-0.02909195,-0.00308430,-0.00400938,0.01374138,0.01814400,0.00735825,-0.00407470,0.00702445,0.00651988,-0.00855050,0.00501358,-0.00108388,0.00259705,0.00276545,0.00053945,-0.00321313,0.00803751,0.00093205,0.00186763,0.0012 6450
Oceania:Papuan,-0.045985,-0.241087,-0.263758,0.309242,0.206931,-0.509589,-0.001974,0.007015,-0.041273,-0.011955,-0.018902,0.000869,0.001397,-0.00311,0.000163,-0.000318,-0.00219,-0.00185,-0.001081,-0.001526,0.002346,0.001805,0.001232,0.001832,0.001 605

Defcon2

08-10-2020, 09:50 PM

Target: Juan_scaled
Distance: 7.7961% / 0.07796087
47.0 Europe
36.4 Asia
16.6 Africa

gixajo

08-10-2020, 09:54 PM

Target: Juan_scaled
Distance: 7.7961% / 0.07796087
47.0 Europe
36.4 Asia
16.6 Africa

Creo que se nos está yendo la olla demasiado en este asunto, la gente no se acerca por miedo a nuestros desvaríos absurdos. El anterior modelo parecido a este, atrajo a mucha gente, y sin embargo a este solo hemos venido portugueses , españoles y un marroquí.

Los más valientes, por cierto.:thumb001:

Defcon2

08-10-2020, 09:57 PM

Creo que se nos está yendo la olla demasiado en este asunto, la gente no se acerca por miedo a nuestros desvaríos absurdos. El anterior modelo parecido a este, atrajo a mucha gente, y sin embargo a este solo hemos venido portugueses , españoles y un marroquí.

Los más valientes, por cierto.:thumb001:

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gixajo

08-10-2020, 10:02 PM

Members who have read this thread: 22

La culpa es tuya, que me has saboteado el thread!!!

Era un modelo gracioso, hasta que lo hiciste descarrilar, eres mala gente. :picard1:

Entenderán este tipo de humor?:confused:

mitalit

08-10-2020, 10:04 PM

marco

08-10-2020, 10:17 PM

The last one I posted has a fantastic average reference for Berbers, you will probably score less than me in the Levantine/Jewish component.

America:Amerindian,0.05436967,-0.29863367,0.11187933,0.08561167,-0.10229633,-0.01710567,-0.24649467,-0.29544133,-0.00721667,-0.01559333,-0.00024900,-0.00372400,0.00231900,0.01401467,-0.00821100,0.00129067,0.00334633,0.00021767,0.0046 9700,0.00300767,0.00010800,0.00123633,0.00109267,0 .00337033,0.00195233
Europe:Baltic,0.13419740,0.11830925,0.08826510,0.0 8638635,0.04299255,0.03189105,0.01198555,0.0142609 5,-0.00087945,-0.03266560,-0.00175390,-0.01308335,0.02134025,0.02636855,-0.00861145,0.00288380,0.00146670,-0.00143170,0.00147695,0.00325795,-0.00070510,-0.00379000,0.00666760,-0.00428965,0.00284405
Africa:Berber,-0.06548320,0.13410613,-0.00816420,-0.07538218,0.02581348,-0.03472953,-0.02944445,0.00831648,0.06752790,0.02796198,0.0070 7855,-0.00796418,0.02308645,-0.01552258,0.01677808,-0.01294335,-0.00285148,-0.02166338,-0.04415378,0.01019313,-0.01565483,-0.03933808,0.02467100,-0.00293920,0.00493865
Asia:Levantine/Jewish,0.08970675,0.15220263,-0.04970895,-0.08630155,-0.00821318,-0.02909195,-0.00308430,-0.00400938,0.01374138,0.01814400,0.00735825,-0.00407470,0.00702445,0.00651988,-0.00855050,0.00501358,-0.00108388,0.00259705,0.00276545,0.00053945,-0.00321313,0.00803751,0.00093205,0.00186763,0.0012 6450
Oceania:Papuan,-0.045985,-0.241087,-0.263758,0.309242,0.206931,-0.509589,-0.001974,0.007015,-0.041273,-0.011955,-0.018902,0.000869,0.001397,-0.00311,0.000163,-0.000318,-0.00219,-0.00185,-0.001081,-0.001526,0.002346,0.001805,0.001232,0.001832,0.001 605

Distance: 3.5568% / 0.03556840
89.8 Africa:Berber
8.0 Asia:Levantine/Jewish
1.4 Oceania:Papuan
0.8 America:Amerindian

gixajo

08-10-2020, 10:17 PM

poh vamoh a daleh salero

THAT THE BALKANS WHAT ?!

Well, it´s a good calculator for Greeks,and some people from Balkans but no so good for NorthWestern Europeans, obviously. the last one was good for NorthWestern Europeans and bad for SoutEastern Europeans, and less but still bad maybe for NorthEastern ones.

Both are bad models for SouthWestern Europeans, this one far worse for us.And i see only SouthWestern Europeans and one NorthWestern African.

They must be afraid because it seems that we become crazy.

calxpal

08-10-2020, 10:22 PM

Target: cpalscaled
Distance: 14.0830% / 0.14083016
91.6 Europe
5.2 America
3.2 Asia

Distance to: cpalscaled
0.14608480 Europe:Greek:Islander
0.31842965 Asia:India
0.61128787 America:Amerindian
0.69640799 Africa:SSA:A
0.81154181 Oceania:Papuan

gixajo

08-10-2020, 10:25 PM

Distance: 3.5568% / 0.03556840
89.8 Africa:Berber
8.0 Asia:Levantine/Jewish
1.4 Oceania:Papuan
0.8 America:Amerindian

You can consider Levantine as simply Palestine, they are practically the same thing, some kind of western or mediterranean coastal middle easterner. if you change it for any Arabian reference, would me more representative of your admixture probably, for example this model would be fine for any Moroccan:

Berber,-0.06548320,0.13410613,-0.00816420,-0.07538218,0.02581348,-0.03472953,-0.02944445,0.00831648,0.06752790,0.02796198,0.0070 7855,-0.00796418,0.02308645,-0.01552258,0.01677808,-0.01294335,-0.00285148,-0.02166338,-0.04415378,0.01019313,-0.01565483,-0.03933808,0.02467100,-0.00293920,0.00493865
Iberian:Center,0.11164140,0.14594010,0.04041465,-0.00269165,0.04294360,-0.00147585,-0.00171355,0.00317290,0.02653685,0.03157990,-0.00221925,0.00826750,-0.01368300,-0.01220250,0.01127050,-0.00380075,-0.00640495,-0.00096065,-0.00232535,-0.00149035,0.00287500,0.00028850,0.00013350,-0.00322815,-0.00191590
MiddleEast,0.05685165,0.12859275,-0.04813445,-0.06769060,-0.01581660,-0.02342100,-0.00406920,-0.00286015,0.00661045,-0.00050155,0.00442385,-0.00707060,0.01346310,-0.00017820,-0.00193140,0.00745640,-0.00185565,0.00011665,0.00003315,0.00229120,0.0015 7940,0.00151840,-0.00176365,0.00088215,-0.00121830
SSA:A,-0.55687967,0.06753267,0.00828100,-0.00197833,-0.00047466,-0.00003500,-0.01680300,0.02377800,0.01856900,-0.02692533,-0.00502067,0.00591333,-0.01327400,0.00153100,-0.00610700,0.00092800,0.00531300,-0.00194267,0.00208467,-0.00411667,0.00054600,-0.00162833,-0.00365633,-0.00061267,0.00158167
Arabian,0.05059585,0.13995270,-0.06513990,-0.11723870,-0.00940130,-0.04997380,-0.01229238,-0.00808298,0.05608075,-0.00410653,0.01556333,-0.03192903,0.06243548,0.00350273,0.00455410,0.0252 5745,-0.02140830,0.00386218,0.00015448,0.02687405,0.0126 3658,0.01614353,-0.00905183,0.00697205,-0.00832413
Sardinian,0.121687,0.167285,0.02849,-0.050652,0.060151,-0.022134,-0.003952,0.002496,0.041574,0.077351,-5.9e-05,0.016649,-0.028664,-0.012974,-0.013572,-0.003001,0.011403,-0.001347,0.00168,-0.012995,-0.002121,-0.001102,-0.010084,-0.021383,0.000337
Palestinian/Jewish,0.08970675,0.15220263,-0.04970895,-0.08630155,-0.00821318,-0.02909195,-0.00308430,-0.00400938,0.01374138,0.01814400,0.00735825,-0.00407470,0.00702445,0.00651988,-0.00855050,0.00501358,-0.00108388,0.00259705,0.00276545,0.00053945,-0.00321313,0.00803751,0.00093205,0.00186763,0.0012 6450
German:A,0.12967560,0.13619240,0.05618755,0.035721 90,0.03738955,0.01410635,0.00564820,0.00601530,0.0 0317670,0.00231755,-0.00414570,0.00157895,-0.00333240,0.00012160,0.00450770,0.00349405,-0.00152525,0.00122655,0.00327310,0.00127880,0.0010 7455,-0.00032490,0.00086965,0.00563395,-0.00037550

Whith those references I think are collected most usual components for North Africans.

alnortedelsur

08-10-2020, 10:34 PM

Target: Alnortedelsur_scaled
Distance: 8.7430% / 0.08743018
84.8 Europe
10.0 America
5.2 Africa

Target: Alnortedelsur_scaled
Distance: 8.8073% / 0.08807299 | ADC: 0.25x
87.0 Europe
9.0 America
4.0 Africa

gixajo

08-10-2020, 10:37 PM

The thread has totally derailed, it is becoming anything but what it was supposed to have been originally.:picard1:

Anyway here are my results for the last model I posted:

Target: gixajo_scaled
Distance: 1.8274% / 0.01827443
69.2 Iberian
20.0 German
10.8 Sardinian
0.0 Arabian
0.0 Berber
0.0 MiddleEast
0.0 Palestinian/Jewish
0.0 SSA

Inexplicably, with such a good reference for North Africans, I do not score anything in it, if I put the typical Mar_taforalt, or the Guanche that Aren kindly suggested to us, it would have been 2.6% in Mar_Taforalt, and about 6% in Guanche.:noidea:

alnortedelsur

08-10-2020, 10:37 PM

If someone want to try the old model or remind his results:

https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?326363-Model-yourself-with-only-a-sample-from-each-continent-(G25-calculator)&p=6769263#post6769263

Target: Alnortedelsur
Distance: 3.3695% / 0.03369473
69.2 Europe
10.8 Africa
10.2 America
8.6 Asia
1.2 Oceania

Target: Alnortedelsur
Distance: 3.3877% / 0.03387681 | ADC: 0.25x
73.6 Europe
9.6 Africa
9.0 America
7.8 Asia

Target: Alnortedelsur
Distance: 3.5405% / 0.03540528 | ADC: 0.5x
83.2 Europe
6.2 Africa
5.8 America
4.8 Asia

Distance to: Alnortedelsur
0.04163934 Europe:Irish
0.08624784 Africa:Yoruba
0.09171758 Asia:Japanese
0.14524021 America:AmerindianNorth
0.16873672 Oceania:AustralianAborigen

marco

08-10-2020, 10:37 PM

You can consider Levantine as simply Palestine, they are practically the same thing, some kind of western or mediterranean coastal middle easterner. if you change it for any Arabian reference, would me more representative of your admixture probably, for example this model would be fine for any Moroccan:

Berber,-0.06548320,0.13410613,-0.00816420,-0.07538218,0.02581348,-0.03472953,-0.02944445,0.00831648,0.06752790,0.02796198,0.0070 7855,-0.00796418,0.02308645,-0.01552258,0.01677808,-0.01294335,-0.00285148,-0.02166338,-0.04415378,0.01019313,-0.01565483,-0.03933808,0.02467100,-0.00293920,0.00493865
Iberian:Center,0.11164140,0.14594010,0.04041465,-0.00269165,0.04294360,-0.00147585,-0.00171355,0.00317290,0.02653685,0.03157990,-0.00221925,0.00826750,-0.01368300,-0.01220250,0.01127050,-0.00380075,-0.00640495,-0.00096065,-0.00232535,-0.00149035,0.00287500,0.00028850,0.00013350,-0.00322815,-0.00191590
MiddleEast,0.05685165,0.12859275,-0.04813445,-0.06769060,-0.01581660,-0.02342100,-0.00406920,-0.00286015,0.00661045,-0.00050155,0.00442385,-0.00707060,0.01346310,-0.00017820,-0.00193140,0.00745640,-0.00185565,0.00011665,0.00003315,0.00229120,0.0015 7940,0.00151840,-0.00176365,0.00088215,-0.00121830
SSA:A,-0.55687967,0.06753267,0.00828100,-0.00197833,-0.00047466,-0.00003500,-0.01680300,0.02377800,0.01856900,-0.02692533,-0.00502067,0.00591333,-0.01327400,0.00153100,-0.00610700,0.00092800,0.00531300,-0.00194267,0.00208467,-0.00411667,0.00054600,-0.00162833,-0.00365633,-0.00061267,0.00158167
Arabian,0.05059585,0.13995270,-0.06513990,-0.11723870,-0.00940130,-0.04997380,-0.01229238,-0.00808298,0.05608075,-0.00410653,0.01556333,-0.03192903,0.06243548,0.00350273,0.00455410,0.0252 5745,-0.02140830,0.00386218,0.00015448,0.02687405,0.0126 3658,0.01614353,-0.00905183,0.00697205,-0.00832413
Sardinian,0.121687,0.167285,0.02849,-0.050652,0.060151,-0.022134,-0.003952,0.002496,0.041574,0.077351,-5.9e-05,0.016649,-0.028664,-0.012974,-0.013572,-0.003001,0.011403,-0.001347,0.00168,-0.012995,-0.002121,-0.001102,-0.010084,-0.021383,0.000337
Palestinian/Jewish,0.08970675,0.15220263,-0.04970895,-0.08630155,-0.00821318,-0.02909195,-0.00308430,-0.00400938,0.01374138,0.01814400,0.00735825,-0.00407470,0.00702445,0.00651988,-0.00855050,0.00501358,-0.00108388,0.00259705,0.00276545,0.00053945,-0.00321313,0.00803751,0.00093205,0.00186763,0.0012 6450
German:A,0.12967560,0.13619240,0.05618755,0.035721 90,0.03738955,0.01410635,0.00564820,0.00601530,0.0 0317670,0.00231755,-0.00414570,0.00157895,-0.00333240,0.00012160,0.00450770,0.00349405,-0.00152525,0.00122655,0.00327310,0.00127880,0.0010 7455,-0.00032490,0.00086965,0.00563395,-0.00037550

Whith those references I think are collected most usual components for North Africans.

Much better thanks

Distance: 1.6775% / 0.01677529
64.0 Berber
17.2 Arabian
8.2 SSA:A
6.0 MiddleEast
4.6 Sardinian

gixajo

08-10-2020, 10:45 PM

Much better thanks

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Distances are quite good, but it´s only an improvised model, don´t take it as any absolute truth, I guess you know that has just indicative purposes.

Is your ancestry mostly from South Morocco than Northern Morocco?

gixajo

08-10-2020, 10:58 PM

Target: Juan_scaled
Distance: 7.7961% / 0.07796087
47.0 Europe
36.4 Asia
16.6 Africa

Que raro, he usado Mar_taforalt en vez de Berber y me sale esto:

Target: gixajo_scaled
Distance: 1.8274% / 0.01827443
69.2 Iberian
20.0 German
10.8 Sardinian
0.0 Arabian
0.0 MAR_Taforalt
0.0 MiddleEast
0.0 Palestinian/Jewish
0.0 SSA

Y el Iberian center es la media de las dos Castillas...

Qué pasará con el Guanche?

Pedro Ruben

08-10-2020, 11:01 PM

Target: Pedro_scaled
Distance: 10.6750% / 0.10674980
92.6 Europe
3.8 America
3.6 Africa

gixajo

08-10-2020, 11:01 PM

También me sale 0%...

Target: gixajo_scaled
Distance: 1.8274% / 0.01827443
69.2 Iberian
20.0 German
10.8 Sardinian
0.0 Arabian
0.0 Canary_Islands_Guanche
0.0 MiddleEast
0.0 Palestinian/Jewish
0.0 SSA

Y con los dos juntos...

Target: gixajo_scaled
Distance: 1.8274% / 0.01827443
69.2 Iberian
20.0 German
10.8 Sardinian
0.0 Arabian
0.0 Canary_Islands_Guanche
0.0 MAR_Taforalt
0.0 MiddleEast
0.0 Palestinian/Jewish
0.0 SSA

Vaya, hasta a mi padre casi le ha desaparecido...

Target: gixajo_dad_scaled
Distance: 1.8049% / 0.01804867
61.8 Iberian
20.4 Sardinian
14.6 German
2.0 Canary_Islands_Guanche
0.6 Palestinian/Jewish
0.6 SSA
0.0 Arabian
0.0 MAR_Taforalt
0.0 MiddleEast

Que he hecho?:rolleyes:

gixajo

08-10-2020, 11:02 PM

HAsta a mi amdre le ha desaparecido!!!

Target: gixajo_mom_scaled
Distance: 2.4567% / 0.02456658
83.4 Iberian
16.6 German
0.0 Arabian
0.0 Canary_Islands_Guanche
0.0 MAR_Taforalt
0.0 MiddleEast
0.0 Palestinian/Jewish
0.0 Sardinian
0.0 SSA

:eek:

Rocinante

08-10-2020, 11:04 PM

gixajo

08-10-2020, 11:09 PM

Utilizar una muestra moderna iberica que ya tiene incluida el taforalt, nada que la NASA no pueda hacer.

No me sale ninguna.:rolleyes: ni moderna ni antigua.

Target: gixajo_scaled
Distance: 2.0401% / 0.02040104
100.0 Iberian
0.0 Berber

Target: gixajo_scaled
Distance: 2.0401% / 0.02040104
100.0 Iberian
0.0 Canary_Islands_Guanche

Target: gixajo_scaled
Distance: 2.0401% / 0.02040104
100.0 Iberian
0.0 MAR_Taforalt

gixajo

08-10-2020, 11:13 PM

Y mi padre:

Target: gixajo_dad_scaled
Distance: 2.1681% / 0.02168072
98.0 Iberian
2.0 Canary_Islands_Guanche

Target: gixajo_dad_scaled
Distance: 2.2023% / 0.02202344
99.8 Iberian
0.2 MAR_Taforalt

Target: gixajo_dad_scaled
Distance: 2.1669% / 0.02166924
98.2 Iberian
1.8 Berber

Creo que estoy empezando a desvariar, debe ser el calor...;)

gixajo

08-10-2020, 11:16 PM

Igual mejor dejo el tema , porque me estoy dando un poco de miedo a mí mismo con tanta absurdez. ;)

Debería pedir que borren todo el thread, es un despropósito de principio a fin.:icon1200:

marco

08-11-2020, 12:34 AM

Distances are quite good, but it´s only an improvised model, don´t take it as any absolute truth, I guess you know that has just indicative purposes.

Is your ancestry mostly from South Morocco than Northern Morocco?

I don’t score southern Moroccan, just normal Moroccan and northern Moroccan my ancestry is complicated lol. If you make a model I’ll check

gixajo

08-11-2020, 12:55 AM

I don’t score southern Moroccan, just normal Moroccan and northern Moroccan my ancestry is complicated lol. If you make a model I’ll check

Well, the reference is made with 2 Berber Moroccan and 2 Berber Tunisian modern averages,maybe Algerian Berbers fit better with you, but are quite different references, tht´s why I didn´t use to make the Berber reference-

You can try them all together and add the Iberian Center average, Arabian, the most used SSA reference to discriminate the most common ancestry for NA´s:

Arabian,0.05059585,0.13995270,-0.06513990,-0.11723870,-0.00940130,-0.04997380,-0.01229238,-0.00808298,0.05608075,-0.00410653,0.01556333,-0.03192903,0.06243548,0.00350273,0.00455410,0.0252 5745,-0.02140830,0.00386218,0.00015448,0.02687405,0.0126 3658,0.01614353,-0.00905183,0.00697205,-0.00832413
Berber:Algeria,-0.293664,0.105158,0.001999,-0.040068,0.014449,-0.012341,-0.036673,0.021057,0.026936,0.021531,0.005757,-0.004526,0.021318,-0.007432,0.011428,-0.00883,0.003123,-0.011079,-0.023053,0.00499,-0.007362,-0.019636,0.012177,-0.000361,0.002652
Berber:ALG_Chaoui,-0.025041,0.145221,-0.011314,-0.072675,0.033852,-0.032351,-0.028436,0.002308,0.06422,0.0277,0.004222,-0.003447,0.014866,-0.016928,0.014251,-0.010209,0.004042,-0.01989,-0.041857,0.004877,-0.009608,-0.0413,0.025266,0.003253,0.006945
Berber:MAR_ERR,-0.092359,0.130931,-0.003286,-0.071199,0.025653,-0.032491,-0.031223,0.010104,0.067347,0.029926,0.009848,-0.005973,0.021662,-0.016141,0.020193,-0.01414,-0.005979,-0.021365,-0.046131,0.009478,-0.016453,-0.041627,0.024808,-0.002066,0.005372
Berber:MAR_TIZ,-0.102522,0.131656,-0.002317,-0.075952,0.031061,-0.035658,-0.033506,0.012016,0.076653,0.031566,0.008815,-0.00926,0.024731,-0.020417,0.020348,-0.015721,0.000112,-0.028831,-0.053422,0.011916,-0.02082,-0.051113,0.030742,-0.00519,0.007467
Berber:Tunisia_Chen,-0.02795,0.139071,-0.008087,-0.07648,0.027732,-0.035202,-0.031387,0.005282,0.068425,0.029796,0.004006,-0.004388,0.019632,-0.016125,0.014092,-0.016905,0.000152,-0.02329,-0.046725,0.007858,-0.016831,-0.040428,0.028135,-0.004452,0.006367
Berber:Tunisia:Sen,-0.039102,0.134767,-0.018967,-0.0779,0.018809,-0.035567,-0.021662,0.005864,0.057688,0.020561,0.005645,-0.012236,0.026322,-0.009407,0.012478,-0.005007,-0.005691,-0.013168,-0.030338,0.01152,-0.008514,-0.024185,0.015,-5e-05,0.000549
Iberian:Center,0.11164140,0.14594010,0.04041465,-0.00269165,0.04294360,-0.00147585,-0.00171355,0.00317290,0.02653685,0.03157990,-0.00221925,0.00826750,-0.01368300,-0.01220250,0.01127050,-0.00380075,-0.00640495,-0.00096065,-0.00232535,-0.00149035,0.00287500,0.00028850,0.00013350,-0.00322815,-0.00191590
SSA:Yoruba,-0.630062,0.062501,0.022113,0.016708,0.000503,0.012 474,-0.044417,0.047767,-0.048881,0.032769,0.004621,0.00079,0.023056,0.0009 51,0.012523,-0.009607,0.007076,0.000449,0.006022,-0.00299,0.001554,0.002316,-0.001759,-0.000471,-0.000425

gixajo

08-11-2020, 01:00 AM

Target: gixajo_scaled
Distance: 2.0401% / 0.02040104
100.0 Iberian
0.0 Arabian
0.0 Berber
0.0 Berber_Tunisia
0.0 SSA

Target: gixajo_dad_scaled
Distance: 2.1592% / 0.02159174
97.6 Iberian
2.4 Berber
0.0 Arabian
0.0 Berber_Tunisia
0.0 SSA

Target: gixajo_mom_scaled
Distance: 2.6919% / 0.02691918
100.0 Iberian
0.0 Arabian
0.0 Berber
0.0 Berber_Tunisia
0.0 SSA

Anyway, it´s always very indicative to try any ancient references based calculator, this is quite good:

http://g25vahaduo.genetics.ovh/ULTIMATE%20ANCIENT%20COMPONENTS.htm

marco

08-11-2020, 01:42 PM

Well, the reference is made with 2 Berber Moroccan and 2 Berber Tunisian modern averages,maybe Algerian Berbers fit better with you, but are quite different references, tht´s why I didn´t use to make the Berber reference-

You can try them all together and add the Iberian Center average, Arabian, the most used SSA reference to discriminate the most common ancestry for NA´s:

Arabian,0.05059585,0.13995270,-0.06513990,-0.11723870,-0.00940130,-0.04997380,-0.01229238,-0.00808298,0.05608075,-0.00410653,0.01556333,-0.03192903,0.06243548,0.00350273,0.00455410,0.0252 5745,-0.02140830,0.00386218,0.00015448,0.02687405,0.0126 3658,0.01614353,-0.00905183,0.00697205,-0.00832413
Berber:Algeria,-0.293664,0.105158,0.001999,-0.040068,0.014449,-0.012341,-0.036673,0.021057,0.026936,0.021531,0.005757,-0.004526,0.021318,-0.007432,0.011428,-0.00883,0.003123,-0.011079,-0.023053,0.00499,-0.007362,-0.019636,0.012177,-0.000361,0.002652
Berber:ALG_Chaoui,-0.025041,0.145221,-0.011314,-0.072675,0.033852,-0.032351,-0.028436,0.002308,0.06422,0.0277,0.004222,-0.003447,0.014866,-0.016928,0.014251,-0.010209,0.004042,-0.01989,-0.041857,0.004877,-0.009608,-0.0413,0.025266,0.003253,0.006945
Berber:MAR_ERR,-0.092359,0.130931,-0.003286,-0.071199,0.025653,-0.032491,-0.031223,0.010104,0.067347,0.029926,0.009848,-0.005973,0.021662,-0.016141,0.020193,-0.01414,-0.005979,-0.021365,-0.046131,0.009478,-0.016453,-0.041627,0.024808,-0.002066,0.005372
Berber:MAR_TIZ,-0.102522,0.131656,-0.002317,-0.075952,0.031061,-0.035658,-0.033506,0.012016,0.076653,0.031566,0.008815,-0.00926,0.024731,-0.020417,0.020348,-0.015721,0.000112,-0.028831,-0.053422,0.011916,-0.02082,-0.051113,0.030742,-0.00519,0.007467
Berber:Tunisia_Chen,-0.02795,0.139071,-0.008087,-0.07648,0.027732,-0.035202,-0.031387,0.005282,0.068425,0.029796,0.004006,-0.004388,0.019632,-0.016125,0.014092,-0.016905,0.000152,-0.02329,-0.046725,0.007858,-0.016831,-0.040428,0.028135,-0.004452,0.006367
Berber:Tunisia:Sen,-0.039102,0.134767,-0.018967,-0.0779,0.018809,-0.035567,-0.021662,0.005864,0.057688,0.020561,0.005645,-0.012236,0.026322,-0.009407,0.012478,-0.005007,-0.005691,-0.013168,-0.030338,0.01152,-0.008514,-0.024185,0.015,-5e-05,0.000549
Iberian:Center,0.11164140,0.14594010,0.04041465,-0.00269165,0.04294360,-0.00147585,-0.00171355,0.00317290,0.02653685,0.03157990,-0.00221925,0.00826750,-0.01368300,-0.01220250,0.01127050,-0.00380075,-0.00640495,-0.00096065,-0.00232535,-0.00149035,0.00287500,0.00028850,0.00013350,-0.00322815,-0.00191590
SSA:Yoruba,-0.630062,0.062501,0.022113,0.016708,0.000503,0.012 474,-0.044417,0.047767,-0.048881,0.032769,0.004621,0.00079,0.023056,0.0009 51,0.012523,-0.009607,0.007076,0.000449,0.006022,-0.00299,0.001554,0.002316,-0.001759,-0.000471,-0.000425

What do you think

Distance: 1.5644% / 0.01564380
24.2 Arabian
23.0 Berber:ALG_Chaoui
21.6 Berber:Tunisia_Chen
11.4 Berber:MAR_TIZ
11.2 Berber:Algeria
4.8 SSA:Yoruba
3.8 Iberian:Center