Eurogenes K13 model for Greeks.

[Voskos]

Phoenician:54_Lebanon_Canaanite_MBA.SG_3770_ybp,0. 27,0.00,12.37,18.62,47.19,15.98,1.52,1.98,0.00,0.0 0,0.00,2.06,0.00
Medes_Eastern_Rome:I1955_Iran_Ganj_Dareh_H_493_ybp ,2.37,9.60,2.72,37.63,29.87,7.39,8.04,0.00,1.16,0. 00,0.65,0.00,0.57
Mycenaean:I9006_Greece_Mycenaean_3287_ybp,8.75,3.2 4,32.05,13.71,37.05,3.81,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.80,0.58, 0.00,0.00
Ptolemaic_Greek:JK2911_Egypt_Late_Period_2449_ybp, 0.00,0.00,13.46,4.64,50.41,23.40,0.00,0.99,0.61,0. 16,0.00,6.33,0.00
Turkic_hordes:MA2195_Anatolia_Ottoman1.SG_3800_ybp ,6.20,11.13,1.57,20.68,7.55,1.59,3.07,13.85,29.99, 3.50,0.48,0.00,0.39
Asia_Minor:MA2198_Anatolia_IA.SG_2900_ybp,5.73,13. 46,8.11,25.34,24.17,6.87,0.71,3.05,9.05,0.12,1.31, 0.00,2.08
Germanic:Alh10_Germany_Early_Medieval.SG_1489_ybp, 50.82,27.96,8.13,4.15,4.48,1.91,0.67,0.31,0.00,1.2 9,0.29,0.00,0.00
Slavic:I4137_Czech_Early_Slav_dup.I4137.SG_1235_yb p,30.89,37.94,12.04,8.95,5.72,0.86,0.00,0.00,2.09, 0.47,0.11,0.93,0.00
Armenian_Eastern_rome:RISE397_Armenia_LBA.SG_2902_ ybp,9.37,7.95,10.92,42.20,18.56,0.01,8.67,0.00,0.0 0,1.62,0.41,0.28,0.00
African:Biaka00448_Africa_,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.0 0,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.63,22.17,77.20
Mongolic: DA38_Mongolia_XiongNu_WE.SG_2152_ybp,9.52,17.47,0. 00,18.46,0.00,0.00,12.10,11.59,22.16,6.33,0.78,0.0 0,1.58

[Voskos]

Distance: 203.6735% / 2.03673525
40.6 Mycenaean
15.6 Germanic
13.6 Phoenician
11.6 Armenian_Eastern_rome
9.4 Ptolemaic_Greek
7.4 Slavic
1.8 Asia_Minor

[paradox]

My father's distance is much better than mine.

Target: K13
Distance: 3.3542% / 3.35420030
46.0 Slavic
28.6 Mycenaean
19.2 Phoenician
6.2 Medes_Eastern_Rome
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My father

Target: Fatherk13
Distance: 1.7560% / 1.75603885
44.2 Slavic
25.0 Mycenaean
19.2 Germanic
8.8 Phoenician
2.8 Ptolemaic_Greek

[SUPREEEEEME]

Thought I'd give it a go even though I'm not Greek:

Target: SUPREEEEEME
Distance: 4.3817% / 4.38169452
35.6 Germanic
32.4 Phoenician
22.4 Mycenaean
9.6 Ptolemaic_Greek

[SUPREEEEEME]

double

[Kaspias]

Target: Kaspias
Distance: 322.7058% / 3.22705780
43.8 Slavic
20.4 Turkic_hordes
14.4 Phoenician
14.2 Mycenaean
7.2 Medes_Eastern_Rome

[andre]

Very good distance

Target: Andre
Distance: 2.9566% / 2.95661443
63.4 Slavic
18.2 Mycenaean
12.6 Ptolemaic_Greek
5.8 Germanic

[Thracian]

Target: Thracian
Distance: 182.1195% / 1.82119530
28.4 Mycenaean
23.6 Medes_Eastern_Rome
21.8 Germanic
16.2 Slavic
6.2 Mongolic
3.2 Ptolemaic_Greek
0.6 Turkic_hordes

[gixajo]

Not enough Greeks.

Target: gixajo
Distance: 19.5643% / 19.56427411
65.8 Germanic
34.2 Mycenaean

Target: gixajo_dad
Distance: 18.4296% / 18.42964497
57.6 Germanic
41.8 Mycenaean
0.6 African

Target: gixajo_mom
Distance: 20.7550% / 20.75501670
69.8 Germanic
30.2 Mycenaean

[Dušan]

Target: Dušan
Distance: 5.9706% / 5.97057628
78.2 Slavic
21.8 Mycenaean :)

[Kyp]

Target: Kyp(Azeri+German)
Distance: 2.4662% / 2.46617287
35.8 Germanic
25.2 Medes_Eastern_Rome
18.6 Mycenaean
7.4 Armenian_Eastern_rome
6.8 Mongolic
6.2 Slavic

[Lucas]

Target: luk
Distance: 13.8632% / 13.86316703
100.0 Slavic

[Geni_kameni]

Target: GeniKameni
Distance: 443.9522% / 4.43952211
64.4 Slavic
31.2 Mycenaean
4.0 Phoenician
0.4 Medes_Eastern_Rome

[catgeorge]

Target: catgeorge
Distance: 204.2054% / 2.04205369
40.4 Mycenaean
24.2 Germanic
16.8 Slavic
9.0 Phoenician
7.6 Armenian_Eastern_rome
2.0 Medes_Eastern_Rome

[Nurzat]

Target: Nurzat
Distance: 244.4522% / 2.44452160
76.6 Slavic
17.2 Mycenaean
5.2 Armenian_Eastern_rome
0.8 Mongolic
0.2 African

Distance to: Nurzat
12.11417352 Slavic:I4137_Czech_Early_Slav_dup.I4137.SG_1235_yb p
29.11540657 Germanic:Alh10_Germany_Early_Medieval.SG_1489_ybp
34.80566621 Asia_Minor:MA2198_Anatolia_IA.SG_2900_ybp
39.57091988 Mongolic: DA38_Mongolia_XiongNu_WE.SG_2152_ybp
42.96860133 Armenian_Eastern_rome:RISE397_Armenia_LBA.SG_2902_ ybp
44.24864631 Mycenaean:I9006_Greece_Mycenaean_3287_ybp
45.42664196 Turkic_hordes:MA2195_Anatolia_Ottoman1.SG_3800_ybp
47.67864931 Medes_Eastern_Rome:I1955_Iran_Ganj_Dareh_H_493_ybp
56.35648765 Phoenician:54_Lebanon_Canaanite_MBA.SG_3770_ybp
61.23077984 Ptolemaic_Greek:JK2911_Egypt_Late_Period_2449_ybp
92.05583197 African:Biaka00448_Africa_

[alexmegas777]

Distance to: alexmegas(Romanian)
21.09542367 Slavic:I4137_Czech_Early_Slav_dup.I4137.SG_1235_yb p
27.68836579 Germanic:Alh10_Germany_Early_Medieval.SG_1489_ybp
34.79090255 Asia_Minor:MA2198_Anatolia_IA.SG_2900_ybp
38.00182364 Mycenaean:I9006_Greece_Mycenaean_3287_ybp
42.36580933 Armenian_Eastern_rome:RISE397_Armenia_LBA.SG_2902_ ybp
43.19666654 Mongolic:DA38_Mongolia_XiongNu_WE.SG_2152_ybp
46.76951464 Turkic_hordes:MA2195_Anatolia_Ottoman1.SG_3800_ybp
47.73808438 Medes_Eastern_Rome:I1955_Iran_Ganj_Dareh_H_493_ybp
52.32213107 Phoenician:54_Lebanon_Canaanite_MBA.SG_3770_ybp
56.65786177 Ptolemaic_Greek:JK2911_Egypt_Late_Period_2449_ybp
92.28093899 African:Biaka00448_Africa_


Target: alexmegas(Romanian)
Distance: 426.1400% / 4.26139958
36.4 Germanic
35.0 Mycenaean
25.8 Slavic
2.2 Armenian_Eastern_rome
0.6 Mongolic

[KrashNick]

Target: KrashNick
Distance: 287.6218% / 2.87621780
48.4 Mycenaean
31.4 Slavic
16.2 Germanic
4.0 Armenian_Eastern_rome

[vasiliki23]

Target: Vasiliki
Distance: 343.4909% / 3.43490950 | ADC: 0.5x RC
47.8 Mycenaean
31.4 Germanic
14.8 Slavic
6.0 Asia_Minor

[Plutarch]

I’m new to this, can someone explain my mother’s distance?

Target: Mother
Distance: 5.1119% / 5.11187977
59.5 Germanic
25.4 Mycenaean
12.4 Armenian_Eastern_rome
2.7 Ptolemaic_Greek

Target: Son
Distance: 1.5831% / 1.58314380
67.5 Germanic
19.3 Mycenaean
5.4 Slavic
4.4 Medes_Eastern_Rome
3.3 Armenian_Eastern_rome
0.1 African

She’s half Dutch (South Holland) and half Heptanesian (Lefkas or Ithaka). And my father is 50% Danish, 25% Dutch and 25% German (Ruhr area).

So, shouldn’t her distance be similar to mine?

This post (https://www.theapricity.com/forum/showthread.php?56585-What-is-your-favorite-genetic-admixture-calculator=&p=7567674&viewfull=1#post7567674) has my mother’s and my Eurogenes K13 oracle results, and our Dodecad K12b results using these Iron Age and Early Antiquity coordinates. (https://www.eupedia.com/genetics/ancient_ethnicities_analyzer.shtml)

[Voskos]

I’m new to this, can someone explain my mother’s distance?

No idea. Try adding those to the model for her.

Ancient_Southern_Greek:Greece_MBA_Mik15,14.45,0,36 .91,0.55,41.8,6.29,0,0,0,0,0,0,0
Ancient_Crete:Greece_EBA_Pta08,9.49,0,35.59,5.30,4 3.72,5.89,0,0,0,0,0,0,0
Ancient_Northern_Greek:Greece_MBA_Log02,25.42,12.2 5,24.46,9.54,23.63,2.29,0,0,0,1,1.21,0,0.18
Ancient_Northern_Greek:Greece_MBA_Log04,27.02,17.2 3,18.01,13.6,18.4,1.55,0.08,0.5,0.83,2.35,0.3,0,0. 13
Celtic:France_IA_ATT26,43.25,20.56,23.86,1.11,4.84 ,0,4.11,0,0,0,0.02,0.55,1.71
Germanic:E09613_Germany_Bell_Beaker_Augsburg_4165_ ybp,40.55,28.74,8.47,15.06,0.00,0.00,3.41,0.00,0.0 0,2.79,0.41,0.57,0.00
Paleobalkan:I2792_Croatia_Vucedol_4677_ybp,14.25,0 .00,48.33,0.00,37.42,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00 ,0.00,0.00

[Plutarch]

No idea. Try adding those to the model for her.

Thanks. Here’s the result:

Target: Mother
Distance: 4.7093% / 4.70927649
37.6 Germanic
19.8 Celtic
18.3 Ancient_Northern_Greek
12.2 Phoenician
12.1 Armenian_Eastern_rome

The Celtic/Gaulish is interesting. The closest Germanic source, Alh10, seems to cause most of the distance for my mother. So I played around with other sources and ended up adding this one for her Germanic ancestry, which closed the distance by a lot:

Germanic_(NW255a):NW255a_Germany_Early_Medieval.SG _1476_ybp,52.54,25.61,7.98,6.28,0.00,5.74,0.00,0.0 0,0.07,0.00,0.37,0.00,1.41

Target: Mother
Distance: 1.7946% / 1.79460367
58.7 Germanic_(NW255a)
25.3 Mycenaean
9.0 Armenian_Eastern_rome
4.1 Phoenician
2.0 Paleobalkan
0.9 Ancient_Southern_Greek

These two worked to bring out the Gaulish:

Gaulish_(NOR3-6): France_IA_NOR3-6,44.12,24.13,17.5,7.58,0.59,2.92,1.83,0,0,0.71,0. 38,0.24,0
Gaulish_(PEY53): France_IA_PEY53,53.92,15.17,13.26,6.82,6.26,2.42,0 ,0,0,0.82,1.32,0,0

Target: Mother
Distance: 1.6001% / 1.60011036
40.1 Germanic_(NW255a)
22.2 Mycenaean
11.5 Gaulish_(NOR3-6)
10.9 Gaulish_(PEY53)
8.0 Phoenician
7.3 Armenian_Eastern_rome

But I think this one is cleaner than the two Gaulish sources:

Proto-Celtic_(BIS130): France_BA_BIS130,45.67,18.46,17.38,13.12,0.15,0.1, 0,0.91,0,1.49,1.98,0.76,0

Target: Mother
Distance: 1.3698% / 1.36983684
42.3 Germanic_(NW255a)
22.4 Proto-Celtic_(BIS130)
20.4 Mycenaean
12.2 Phoenician
2.7 Armenian_Eastern_rome

I don’t really know what I’m doing, but the final result seems plausible and with a good distance. On MyHeritage, my mother’s Greek first cousin has a percentage of “North and West European” that more or less corresponds with the extra Celtic and Germanic (Venetian influence maybe). And I think the Levantine ancestry may come from the Mardaites, a military (not ethnic) group, like the French Foreign Legion, that recruited heavily in Lebanon before settling in Kefalonia and other parts of Greece.

[Rius]

Target: Rius
Distance: 536.8437% / 5.36843720
55.4 Medes_Eastern_Rome
27.8 Asia_Minor
16.8 Mycenaean

[oszkar07]

Target: OszkarsArmenianWife
Distance: 892.6382% / 8.92638202
40.8 Armenian_Eastern_rome
35.2 Phoenician
24.0 Medes_Eastern_Rome

[oszkar07]

Target: Oszkar
Distance: 280.0171% / 2.80017149
46.8 Slavic
45.2 Germanic
5.4 Mycenaean
2.6 Ptolemaic_Greek